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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1668895]Now that's exactly what irritates me about Mr E. Always commenting that we 'short time visitors' pay too much and that the real price is 500 ST and 1000 LT. It's only the real price for long timers and not even for every girl.[/QUOTE]I have not always been a long timer but I have always paid the same price. Like I said YMMV. There are guys who will go with the first price someone gives them because they don't want to upset the balance, chemistry, or vibe and there are guys like me who, if not given what they feel is a reasonable price or feel they can get what they are after for less, will negotiate.
One thing I often hear when I tell a chick I'm not paying a bar fine and I'm only giving her 1000 baht is that, "You know too much. " Everyone, whether monger or hooker, is free to accept or turn down any price. Pay what you want. It does not bother me one bit and does not affect my game. The way I look at it is that the more another guy gives her, the less I will have to; not that if she got 3000 from you then I will have to give 3000 as well. I'm just saying that the most expensive way or the widely published way is not the only option. One can always try sneaking through the back door of the club to avoid the cover charge.
It's the same thing with taxis from BKK to Pattaya. You have guys that will arrive at the airport and get a taxi for 2000 or 1500 all day long and not think twice about it or think that is the usual/normal/regular/real taxi price. Then you have other guys like me who know they can walk right upstairs, go outside and cross the median, and get the same damn taxi for 900 baht. Why it would irritate you that I try to pull someones coat to let them know there are alternate roads to Rome is beyond me. I could give a fuck less how you get there, but if I know of a better or cheaper way then I will bring it up to you and hope you would do the same for me.
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[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1668909]So to recap the naughty Go-Gos are as follows (not in any order):
1. Sugarbaby's.
2. Windmill.
3. Private Dancer.
4. Babydolls - on the other hand the girls are very handsy once you call them over - sometimes that's better than the guy having to do all the work.
I have seen guys inserting bottles into pussies, eating out the girls on stage, soaping them in the tub and basically all those things you mentioned in your report (except perhaps BJs).
Any other Go-Gos go onto the list?
P.S. I could not eat out a girl dancing on stage, just off-putting for me from a hygiene perspective,[/QUOTE]Private Dancer is the naughtiest. Windmill's dancers looked average or below average to me. I'm still looking, but that may be it, per an ex-pat here.
Sugarbaby dancers DO clean themselves after getting a licking. LOL. Also forgot to mention, they wear sexy schoolgirl costumes, with very small skirts. Search for them on Facebook to see. Draft beer is 90 baht, I think.
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Agreed, but
With one exception. When you are a short timer like me and only have a few weeks, I will work hard my first few days mongering and hopefully shag as many young ladies I can. Then I will collect their phone numbers, also make sure you have given them or done something to remember you by because they probably are getting many guy calls if they are pretty and hot, and start calling or texting the good ones the following weeks for no bar fine and reduced ST or LT charges. It doesn't always work and it won't be as good as living in Pattaya and having all the time to work the scene, but it has saved me some serious baht and I know what I am getting when I hook up. Just food for thought.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1668860]No surprise that my man NB hits the nail right on the head. There is a HUGE difference between being in town for a short time and residing there.
For us short timers Time is Money. We can't' afford to pass up amazing opportunities just to save a few hundred baht. We did not come from half around the world to go hem alone with our schwantz in our hands.
Guys that live here have the time to play the game, collect numbers, and get the better deals. And the luxury to pass up on an opportunity knowing that they are in it for the long haul.
Shit if I lived in Pattaya I would have a dozen or so regulars on speed dial and would probably only venture out form time to time to add a new girl when I got bored.
You long timers live a charmed life. So don't hold it against us regular SOBs if we "overpay".[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1668897]Living here can also be a curse? A potential sponsor without having to leave the country, a regular I can call when business is slow or I just want to have a day off going dinner and party. Collecting numbers can be great but make sure you control them so that when you want a break and put your head down on the pillow the phone doesn't ring or DING DONG![/QUOTE]Haha. Wow, that is a problem I would love to have, my friend.
But I do see your point. It was hard enough juggling one regular who was constantly trying to monopolize my time last trip. I can imagine how hard it must be to have a few of them going at once.
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[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1668933]With one exception. When you are a short timer like me and only have a few weeks, I will work hard my first few days mongering and hopefully shag as many young ladies I can. Then I will collect their phone numbers, also make sure you have given them or done something to remember you by because they probably are getting many guy calls if they are pretty and hot, and start calling or texting the good ones the following weeks for no bar fine and reduced ST or LT charges. It doesn't always work and it won't be as good as living in Pattaya and having all the time to work the scene, but it has saved me some serious baht and I know what I am getting when I hook up. Just food for thought.[/QUOTE]The longest I've ever done is 2 weeks. So for me, time, rather than money has been the premium. But yes I think what you describe is a good strategy.
I hope to spend a month in Patts end of summer. Sort of a working vacation. And I was planning on doing just what you described.
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[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1668909]So to recap the naughty Go-Gos are as follows (not in any order):
1. Sugarbaby's.
2. Windmill.
3. Private Dancer.
4. Babydolls - on the other hand the girls are very handsy once you call them over - sometimes that's better than the guy having to do all the work.
I have seen guys inserting bottles into pussies, eating out the girls on stage, soaping them in the tub and basically all those things you mentioned in your report (except perhaps BJs).
Any other Go-Gos go onto the list?
P.S. I could not eat out a girl dancing on stage, just off-putting for me from a hygiene perspective, but a lot of guys get a kick out of it (and are very enthusiastic about it).[/QUOTE]The Airport Club has a naughty section as well in the back.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1668895]Now that's exactly what irritates me about Mr E. Always commenting that we 'short time visitors' pay too much and that the real price is 500 ST and 1000 LT. It's only the real price for long timers and not even for every girl.[/QUOTE]Mogwai, The lowest price I have heard from a girl I wanted to take is 2500. I didn't hear any girl whisper 500 or 1000 around me forget ST or LT. For my next trip in February I am expecting prices per encounter between 2500 to 4000 for LT be it walking street or Soi 7/8 bars or LK metro.
I would really want to meet one girl who I would want to take and wants 1000 LT, would be a memorable experience for me for sure.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1668915]I have not always been a long timer but I have always paid the same price. Like I said YMMV. There are guys who will go with the first price someone gives them because they don't want to upset the balance, chemistry, or vibe and there are guys like me who, if not given what they feel is a reasonable price or feel they can get what they are after for less, will negotiate.
One thing I often hear when I tell a chick I'm not paying a bar fine and I'm only giving her 1000 baht is that, "You know too much. " Everyone, whether monger or hooker, is free to accept or turn down any price. Pay what you want. It does not bother me one bit and does not affect my game. The way I look at it is that the more another guy gives her, the less I will have to; not that if she got 3000 from you then I will have to give 3000 as well. I'm just saying that the most expensive way or the widely published way is not the only option. One can always try sneaking through the back door of the club to avoid the cover charge.
It's the same thing with taxis from BKK to Pattaya. You have guys that will arrive at the airport and get a taxi for 2000 or 1500 all day long and not think twice about it or think that is the usual/normal/regular/real taxi price. Then you have other guys like me who know they can walk right upstairs, go outside and cross the median, and get the same damn taxi for 900 baht. Why it would irritate you that I try to pull someones coat to let them know there are alternate roads to Rome is beyond me. I could give a fuck less how you get there, but if I know of a better or cheaper way then I will bring it up to you and hope you would do the same for me.[/QUOTE]No reason to get aggressive. All I'm saying was that it irritates me that you often comment that guys pay too much when this is simply not true.
Like recently when Butter69 reported that he got a cutie from the Lighthouse Agogo for 2000 LT (post #15845).
I asked him: 2000 for LONG time, are you sure about that? (#15846).
Steve7777 replies: Is that too much or too little? (#15848).
And then you reply: With a minimum wage of 300 baht a day I will say it's too much. (#15849).
No, it's not too much! Given the fact that the 'list price' (as Natty Bumpo called it strikingly) for LT for a good looking Agogo girl is in the range of 4000 to 5000 Bath this guy made a very good deal.
The majority of us punters have to deal with the list prices for ST and LT. We might be able to get a girl for 500 Bath (ST) or 1000 Bath (LT) less but that's about it.
OK, every once in a while you might run into a girl who likes you very much and quotes you only 1000 ST. That happens. But most of the time the girls will laugh in your face and say 'next!' when you offer only 1000. And that is for ST. You are able (apparently) to get a lot of girls for 1000 LT. Fine, I'm happy for you. But it takes quite some effort, game and time that the average punter doesn't have and you often 'forget' to mention that. You make it seem like we are all losers who pay way too much. And that is what irritates me because it's simply not true.
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Each his own
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1669233]No reason to get aggressive. All I'm saying was that it irritates me that you often comment that guys pay too much when this is simply not true.
Like recently when Butter69 reported that he got a cutie from the Lighthouse Agogo for 2000 LT (post #15845).
I asked him: 2000 for LONG time, are you sure about that? (#15846).
Steve7777 replies: Is that too much or too little? (#15848).
And then you reply: With a minimum wage of 300 baht a day I will say it's too much. (#15849).
No, it's not too much! Given the fact that the 'list price' (as Natty Bumpo called it strikingly) for LT for a good looking Agogo girl is in the range of 4000 to 5000 Bath this guy made a very good deal.
The majority of us punters have to deal with the list prices for ST and LT. We might be able to get a girl for 500 Bath (ST) or 1000 Bath (LT) less but that's about it.
OK, every once in a while you might run into a girl who likes you very much and quotes you only 1000 ST. That happens. But most of the time the girls will laugh in your face and say 'next!' when you offer only 1000. And that is for ST. You are able (apparently) to get a lot of girls for 1000 LT. Fine, I'm happy for you. But it takes quite some effort, game and time that the average punter doesn't have and you often 'forget' to mention that. You make it seem like we are all losers who pay way too much. And that is what irritates me because it's simply not true.[/QUOTE]Black American guys like him generally go for the fat assed type girls. With high end GoGo chicks you are competing with Jap and Koreans. He with marauding gangs of Indians. Apples and oranges.
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About Lighthouse 2000 LT
Two days ago. I been there. And find the girl name Aow. #43. Black hair. And buy her drink and her friend drink. And the barfine for her is 700 B and she quoted me 4000 for LT.
Anyway. She is not my type. I am from Asian. 22 years old. Not fat. Maybe she think I am very rich.
And I been many gogobars take a look. I want to say. The quality is poor. Can't believe now is high season. I don't like happy group. So I not been there for a check.
But Heaven above gogobar was surprised me. Some nice looking girls and nude. Barfine for show girls is 1000. Bikini girls is 700. ST 2000 LT 3000. Some girls only go ST.
If you like hands on or get a BJ in gogo. You can go Private dancer. I saw two guys get BJ from girls. But the quality is poor too. (wild mills and sugar bady only hands on).
You can fine some new nice looking girls in soi 6/7/8. And other beer bar area. But the Shooters and 69 ers Beer Bar on soi 7 quoted me gogo pirce for ST and LT. WTF.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07;1668345]I'm paying 2000ST for a drop dead gorgeous Go-Go prettiest girl in the bar showgirl stunner type who comes over and knocks my lights out.[/QUOTE]
This is my one problem with the whole price debate - the idea that if you pay more you will actually get better service (I'm assuming that's what you mean by 'knocks my lights out'). I find that if you throw your money around and pay a lot, what you invariably get is good looks, but [I]much[/I] worse performance. In general the very young good looking girls have hardly any incentive to offer good service.
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'list price'
I had a gogo girl come over twice after I barfined her (we swapped numbers) and each time she stayed the entire night and each time I gave her 2000 baht. That was my rookie tour, this time around I'll see if 'she' takes less (she as in other repeat girls). Was that above or below the list price for long time? I also had two other girls numbers and they both came over for less than the first time around and stayed longer.
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[QUOTE=Opebo;1669350]This is my one problem with the whole price debate - the idea that if you pay more you will actually get better service (I'm assuming that's what you mean by 'knocks my lights out'). I find that if you throw your money around and pay a lot, what you invariably get is good looks, but [I]much[/I] worse performance. In general the very young good looking girls have hardly any incentive to offer good service.[/QUOTE]What I meant was that to me she is beautiful, as sexually appealing as any girl can get, and on top of that she does exactly what I want her to do and does it very well. So yes, I'm paying mostly for her youth and outstanding beauty with the added bonus of a very satisfying PSE performance. In my opinion it's worth the extra few bucks every now and then. One only lives once.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07;1669613]What I meant was that to me she is beautiful, as sexually appealing as any girl can get, and on top of that she does exactly what I want her to do and does it very well. So yes, I'm paying mostly for her youth and outstanding beauty with the added bonus of a very satisfying PSE performance. In my opinion it's worth the extra few bucks every now and then. One only lives once.[/QUOTE]Sadly, once a gal gets let's say, 2 k as opposed to 1. 5 k, in her mind that is the new price. That is her "worth. " To take less would be a loss of face. I wish LOS was on the same model as the PI. You pay the BF and that includes everything. It standardizes the pricing. I have never tipped in Thailand and have always stuck to the going rate. I have never gotten poor service on a repeat as a result. In addition I am respectful, never try to push a gal past her limits, speak to her in Thai, and present a fun easy going demeanor. Why don't I tip? Well, there will always be some dude after me and I am always after some dude. No reason in any way to spoil the pot or the P4 P gal in this instance. I still liken it to any service. I am not going to pay more than the going rate to the maid, car repair, or lawn service guy. So why would I pay more to a gal who is simply just providing a service for me.