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[QUOTE=AliasDonkey;1676839]Rates when up compared to when they first opened by 500+ P LOL almost put "B" for Baht. I guess since more of the hotel is complete, more than two types of rooms, deep discounts are no longer available as before.[/QUOTE]When I was there in November they said that rates would increase when construction was complete. They allowed me to lock in the old rate for February.
Maybe a stupid question? If I wanted to have toys, would I have to bring them to AC? Or are they available to purchase?
[QUOTE=AliasDonkey;1676500]
Avoid LD (lady's drinks). They are more expensive, but are not worth the price.[/QUOTE]I don't understand this warning. When you invite a lady to sit with you it's more or less compulsary to buy her a LD. If you don't she won't be sitting with you very long.
Maybe you meant: avoid double LD's?
[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1676933]Maybe a stupid question? If I wanted to have toys, would I have to bring them to AC? Or are they available to purchase?[/QUOTE]I think they have them in the lingerie shop on Fields, but why not being your own? Unless you are coming from Hong Kong, they probably cost less where you live. I always buy the clearance stuff at the store in my city.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1676945]I don't understand this warning. When you invite a lady to sit with you it's more or less compulsary to buy her a LD. If you don't she won't be sitting with you very long.
Maybe you meant: avoid double LD's?[/QUOTE]Mogwai,
As I said in my original post it a compilation of info from here and other websites. This is not my statement. Unless you can think of a way how to not pay for a lady drink and find out if she's the one to take home.
LOL.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1676948]I always buy the clearance stuff at the store in my city.[/QUOTE]Mr. Entertainment, the places you shop, I do not recall the 99 Cents stores selling adult toys, let have a 50 cents clearance sale!
[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1676933]Maybe a stupid question? If I wanted to have toys, would I have to bring them to AC? Or are they available to purchase?[/QUOTE]They do have a limited and overpriced selection at the shop Mr. E mentioned (it's across from Atlantis), but better and cheaper to bring your own; just make sure you remove the batteries otherwise your suitcase may start vibrating and thereby draw some unwanted (albeit potentially very funny) attention.
When we last heard from our bumbling hero, he had rented two rooms, one for the wife, one for the mistress.
So far, no mistress. But having two rooms with a girlfriend is pretty cool. When she's in the bathroom for half an hour doing her girly thing, putting on her lotion, etc, I can go take a dump in the other room. When she's watching her crap on TV, because she has no TV usually in her own place, I can go take a nap in the room that I'm starting to think of as the man cave. Nice rooms, each with a kitchen, for 1 k, for the few days before I go back home to celibacy.
Oh, and I can jack off to the ms. Universe contest in the man cave, while she's out buying scented candles for the Island Girl room.
I'm eating leftovers of the curry stew she made, good stuff.
Fields Avenue.
Should be renamed: Butterfly Heaven.
Why?
What does a Filipina mean when she says: Why?
It seems like there must be a Tagalog word with several meanings that they are translating as 'why', because it doesn't make sense in English when they use it sometimes. Like I'll say, the air conditioner in this room is better than the air conditioner in that room, and she'll say 'why?
Or I'll say, when A does this, it's clearly fucked up.
And she'll say: 'Why?
This is from a girl whose English is good, but I've heard it from other Filipinas.
Any explanation, P. I. Experts?
Girlfriend experience.
OK, for once I'm sticking with a girl, regular barfine. Its been two weeks now since I started with her, and was entranced by her.
And now I'm getting a real girlfriend experience:
She's got PMS.
Teary, paranoid, and doesn't want to have sex much.
Lovely.
LOL.
There was a research study where they make video's girls in a bar. Two weeks away from their period, the most likely time to get pregnant, the girls were wearing low cut and tight revealing sexy clothes, and flirting a lot, enjoying the attention of men. Women who were two weeks off that sexy vibe, closer to their period, were wearing non-revealing clothing, and acting rejecting towards men.
Welcome to the girlfriend experience.
Butterfly bringing a girl back to the States.
One night when I had temporarily broken up with Island Girl, I went to my favorite bar and told a couple girls: I just broke up with my girlfriend. One of them smiled, shook my hand, and said: Congratulations!
Later, after we had hot sex we both enjoyed, I asked her how long she would stay my girlfriend if I brought her to the states, not as a real wife but as a girlfriend of a butterfly like me: three months? Six months?
She smiled and said: maybe, a few days.
I like honest smart girls. She's studying engineering. Used to be a jewelry saleslady at sm dept store in the province.
She told me: you are my savior.
What do you mean?
-Its the end of the month and I need to send rent to my mother, who is taking care of my kids. She thinks I'm working late at night in a call center and get paid every two weeks. But I haven't been barfined for two weeks until tonight, so I didn't have the money.
I was only her second non Korean barfine; the first was an Australian who hurt her with his dick. She was scared of my dick being too big for her. I'm 6 foot 2 and normal size, but the girls know about the study: who has the smallest dicks: Koreans, then Japanese. She showed me with a closed fist: one fist, the size of korean, two fists on top of each other, my size. LOL.
I had to be very reassuring and go slowly so she knew it wouldn't hurt, and could relax.
Then she really enjoyed it.
God, I love the Philippines!
Barfines.
I went to the same bar the next night, bought lots of girls drinks and gave them food til I found the right one. Then I asked the waitress, how much is the barfine. She said, not possible, we don't barfine. OK, well, whatever you call it now, money to let a girl go home early; used to be, 10 ladies drinks, etc.
She said, sorry, we don't do that here.
I said, bullshit! I just took a girl home from here last night!
Well, tonight we aren't doing that.
I guess I look like a police informant, LOL.
Eventually she went off and got permission, I gave my girl the 2.5 k, and I was told to meet her outside the bar.
My question about getting a girl to go home from the bar.
I had been frustrated by so many girls saying they didn't want to go home with me. I'm OK looking. I had tried being direct from the beginning: is that girl a cherry girl, is she on her menses, etc.
My island girl told me: the girls on Fields are looking only with their eyes, not at the personality.
In other words, I'm not as cute as the young guys on Fields. But there were plenty of regular looking guys with girls I saw there.
She also said, don't be so direct. The girl wants to get to know you.
So, in keeping with my policy this trip, where I don't worry about the smaller expenses, I've become liberal with buying ladies drinks for girls, talking with them, getting to know them until I get the right vibe. Becoming friends, joking, asking interesting questions about them, telling them about myself.
That's working better than the other method. Although I still get rejected sometimes, sorry, I'm on my menses. But I don't worry about the rejections anymore, just figure it's part of the life here.
Runners.
I still have quite a few girls I take home who fuck once then leave. I don't fight it, partly because I actually like short time sometimes, and partly because I actually want the girls to be happy, and I don't want to worry about little money things like how much is one fuck vs. two.
But it would be nice to have the option to kick them out or keep them for a second round, vs their routine of fuck once, take a shower after and get dressed, with some excuse about why they can't stay.
Any advice?
How do you avoid runners?
How to get a girl wet.
We've all got our own methods. I've been loving how much the girls have been really getting into the sex with me on this trip. (except of course my girlfriend, now that she's pms'ing, LOL.).
Recently when I get a group of girls around me in the bar, I've been saying:
Sometimes, when a girl goes home, she gets horny!
What do you think makes a girl horny when she goes home? Handsome man like Brad Pitt? Nice man? Good hands?
Their answers have been:
All of the above.
Or.
Really, the most important is, nice man.
My steady Barfine, Island Girl.
I broke up with her because she stopped being as interested in sex: went from twice a day with enthusiasm to once a day with less enthusiasm.
I had been entranced by her, constantly dreaming of taking her back to the States, which is really too difficult, then figuring out how to take her to Bali instead. My only steady barfine ever.
Then I broke up. Then tears on both sides, hey, maybe she actually does like me? Then a flurry of texts of love and frustration. Cute.
My first PI Love texted me that I was being an idiot for breaking up over sex like that: sometimes girls are wet, sometimes girls are dry, that's just life, I must not have loved her.
Then I saw Island Girl again, and became entranced again. (she works across the street, and left her high heels like Cinderella in my room).
I told her I was leaving in a few days, maybe we just needed space from each other, and that I wanted to, I had to, barfine her until I left. We were flowing like waves while we talked.
Then she moved back in, now to the two bedroom arrangement. I decided to go slow on the sex, we sort of had a date, dinner, then home, candlelight, soft music, she took a while in the bathroom with the shower.
Sleepydog has sleep problems, I got painfully sleepy while she was in the shower, then I fell asleep before we had sex, LOL. She was frustrated. I was empathetic: if she had tried to have sex with me then, I would have suffered through tired sex, maybe that's what she was trying to avoid with me when I had been hitting on her unsuccessfully before we broke up.
Then: I felt better the next day. But I've never gotten back to that entranced place of thinking all the time about how to be with her for a long time. More often, thinking about how to leave her without hurting her again. She works in the bar across the street from my regular hotel, her sister owns the bar, I don't want to be tense with her in the long term.
Marriage: I tried it. I guess I don't like it.
I saw a card:
Common side effects: loss of sex drive, depression, irritability, boredom.
Talk to your doctor before you try marriage.
But its fun to be romantic sometimes. And its nice to watch a beautiful woman cooking in a tight dress, or relaxing naked on the couch.
It's been fun. Thinking about going home now, dammit. Going to come back soon.
AliasDonkey's excellent posted has prompted me to ask a few questions about Fields Avenue. I last visited in 2012 and compiled the attached map and listed my favourite bars on Fields Avenue. I'll be back in Angeles soon and will be really interested to see how things have changed. I plan to visit as many bars as possible in 10 days and will post my findings on here as well as an updated map.
My question is simple. AliasDonkey did a really good job of recommending his favourite bars, can anyone else recommend any must-visits? Cute girls, easily 'barfineable', good atmosphere and reasonable prices. I remember on my last visit chatting with the manager of Atlantis, a fellow Brit, and he recommended Insomnia. I took him up on his advice and was hugely impressed by the lineup.
I will be in Angeles with two friends, veterans of many trips to Thailand but this will be their first visit to Philippines. The pressure is on me because I'm the one who persuaded them to give Philippines a go! I'm sure they will enjoy it but one of them particularly enjoys beer-bars in Thailand. Are there any bars on Fields Avenue that have a similar setup? Good places to sit, have a beer or two, watch the world go by and perhaps barfine / EWR one of the staff without having to step in to a gogo bar? It might seem a strange request but I suspect that my mate might fancy a change of pace after all of the gogo bars!
Thanks in advance for any replies and I will be sure to post a lengthy report.
Hey guys,
This is my first report. Thanks to everyone for all the info over the years.
Arrived to Manila airport early (5:40) am on Sunday morning. I strongly advise any first timers to Angeles to arrive on a Sunday if you can as the Manila traffic I heard so much about is non existent at this time on this day. Did what the forum told me and went up one floor to arrivals. Asked the taxi guy how much to Angeles. He said how much you think? I said 2000 (low balling the 2500 mentioned several times on ISG) he said OK. Though when we stopped for petrol another driver told him 2500. I said no prob as this is the actual price and he had never driven to AC before. Got dropped less than 2 hrs later on fields ave. Please note walking street is the action part of fields ave. I thought they were different streets. Funnily enough I was directing the driver as I knew roughly where everything was from reading the forum so much! Checked into a hotel (genesis) about 5 min from the action. 1300 pesos (27 euro /34 dollars) per night. It was fine. But some of the older ISG members may want something a little fancier.
Walked down blow row (A Santos st). Went into the black pearl. There were a couple of 6's (please note it's 10 am and this is the only street with the slightest bit of action on it at this time). Mamasan very friendly. From RTTF I thought these places on blow row had rooms within for our hobby but this has stopped, something to do with the law. She quoted me 800 (16 euro) and 200 for the short time room down the road (literally 1 minute away). Off we went. I could have brought her to my room but I'm a bit nervous for my stuff / walk of shame etc. Good BBBJ, 100 peso tip, then walked her back.
Later in the day went to the casino, hung out in my room. Not much to do here during the day. Blow row is a good time killer. Also there are poker tournaments starting at 2/3 pm in some of the poker rooms. You can't miss them. This is a great way to kill a few hrs. Some of the higher end bars on the strip also show any sporting event you can think of. Watched the arsenal game over a few beers.
There are lots of guys selling cigarettes on the street offering ciallis and Viagra. These guys can get weed if one is so inclined. You'll have to be patient as there is a lot of bullshit involved. "Later. How much you pay. No no this is minimum 2000 pesos. I know for a fact they pay about 100 pesos for what you eventually get. And for gods sake be discreet. They are even a little nervous themselves. There's a lot of cops around. One guy showed me a bag of coke. Not interested, just saying it's possible. Always try before you buy.
At around 7 pm the strip comes alive with girls and go go / girlie bars. They try to bring you into their bar. They are genuinely friendly and there are thousands of them. I saw one I liked and asked her to come with me. She said you have to come into the bar, buy a ladies drink (300) and then we can go. BF 2500, but she was smoking hot. Went to a ST hotel and took me to heaven and back. She could suck the chrome off a ball hinge great GFE also.
I could have kept her for a few hrs but one pop is enough for me (especially after my blow row visit earlier) walked her back to her bar. I must say the girls attitudes here are prob the best in the world (I've mongered in over 60 countries). For any mongers that are nervous about the hobby, there is nothing to worry about here. Every westerner / foreigner (lots of Japanese and Koreans) that comes here comes for one reason. No one will judge you, whatsoever. They are nice about it, very good at it and many of the girls are 8's or higher.
I hope this post helps. Peace out.
Thanks everyone for the help earlier. Picked up a nice hottie from Dollhouse. Will do a report when I get back home.
OK, here is what I do about girls who want to go after one time.
Actually, I don't have any experience with this in the Philippines, except from one SW and we ended up becoming good friends. After the first time she said she had to go, so I said, well we negotiated LT so minimum 3 pops. She said, OMG and got a little pissy, so I told her, just one more time and then she could go, but she had to come back the next day at a discount. I originally offered her 1000 p for all night, gave her the 1000 p after 2 pops and met her again for 300 p for 1 pop. After that we just became friends and she has hooked me up with a few girls at 500 p ST and I have hooked her up with a few guys for more than I paid. One guy from Germany tried to give her only 300 p and she had the police take him in and extorted him for 10,000 p.
Just tell them how you feel, first it sucks when a girl wants to bolt after the first time because it means she really doesn't like you. Although, knowing she doesn't really like you, you can say, screw her! So I would say, I can easily find ST for 500 p and she will believe it because it is TRUE. You can even tell her that you can pick up a Hottie from High Society for 1000 p for ST so you feel one time for 2200-4000 depending on the place you Barfined at is not a fair price. She WILL agree unless she is horrible person. Now she is a horrible person who doesn't like you. So maybe it is time to be firm, OK one more time and you can go, OK? If she still says no then you can say. Do you really hate me, was having sex with me that bad? If she still wants to go then say. Fine you can leave but I feel like I need to tell your bar you left after just one time and I am not very happy about it.
Girls get the idea they can leave after one time from guys who only want them one time. So those of you who only want 1 time, make her give you a massage or give you body scrub or lick your asshole. Give you a striptease or introduce you to other girls, who will go with you for 1000 p. A discount for the next time. Make her do something so she doesn't think 1 time is enough. Tip gifts, rather than cash.
Last girl I Barfined in AC, I did like 5 times and she stayed for lunch the next day, I was happy to see her go.
To be honest I did make her squirt all over the bed and she had never squirted before. Also no tip and she never asked for a tip. If she did I would tell her I gave it to her between legs when she squirted.
You don't have to follow my advice, so if you don't like it don't comment.
But if we went to get a massage, and the agreed upon price was 1000 p for excellent service would you pay more than me just because you can. If you have ever done business, you respect the guy who negotiates and think the over payer is just a chump.
Hope this helps, the picture represents girls who only care about money, play at your own risk!
MM
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1677322]AliasDonkey's excellent posted has prompted me to ask a few questions about Fields Avenue. I last visited in 2012 and compiled the attached map and listed my favourite bars on Fields Avenue. I'll be back in Angeles soon and will be really interested to see how things have changed. I plan to visit as many bars as possible in 10 days and will post my findings on here as well as an updated map.
My question is simple. AliasDonkey did a really good job of recommending his favourite bars, can anyone else recommend any must-visits? Cute girls, easily 'barfineable', good atmosphere and reasonable prices. I remember on my last visit chatting with the manager of Atlantis, a fellow Brit, and he recommended Insomnia. I took him up on his advice and was hugely impressed by the lineup.
I will be in Angeles with two friends, veterans of many trips to Thailand but this will be their first visit to Philippines. The pressure is on me because I'm the one who persuaded them to give Philippines a go! I'm sure they will enjoy it but one of them particularly enjoys beer-bars in Thailand. Are there any bars on Fields Avenue that have a similar setup? Good places to sit, have a beer or two, watch the world go by and perhaps barfine / EWR one of the staff without having to step in to a gogo bar? It might seem a strange request but I suspect that my mate might fancy a change of pace after all of the gogo bars!
Thanks in advance for any replies and I will be sure to post a lengthy report.[/QUOTE]As I'm sure you know the names of the bars constantly change (sometimes by just a letter of 2 like Genesis=Nemisis Typhoon=Monsoon), and of course the girls change too. Just 6 months away from AC can mean a bar has had a complete Korean renovation, a new owner, new mama-sans, a raid or 2 and of course new / different girls. Some long time survivors always remain, like Lollipop, La Bamba, Geckos, Champagne, and others have been there forever but, as I stated earlier, have just changed their name.
I actually find Fields Ave to be a little ho-hum and prefer the perimeter bars, where the girls are a little wilder, cheaper and sluttier. Just after the Phoenix hotel is a filthy (in a good way) strip of bars that put most of the Fields bars to shame in terms of fun girls, but if its an absolute drop dead gorgeous stunner you want, its hit and miss. But these girls are fun. Det-5 is a fun bar and is surrounded by Candys and XXX and a few others. For some complete filth, turn left after Garfields and enter Niftys and Rio. These girls are NOT shy. Further up the road is Ice Bar, drill shack, Nasty Duck and T & A (or whatever its called now) and a short trike up the road further to one of my favs, After School (I think they still have a 900 pp short time offer), and also Lost in Asia, Mirrors and a few others. These bars open earlier than most fields bars and close round midnight. They have cheaper barfines and girls who say yes when you ask for their company for the night. BFs range from 1500+ (last time I was there anyway!
However, if its fields where you want to be, its a smorgasbord of all shapes and sizes of girls, and all manner prices. I'll mention a few below:
Crystal Palace, Dollhouse, Tao, Atlantis have expensive drinks and women. Lost of Koreans, Japanese and Chinese like to shop here and pay a lot. A girl may knock you back while she waits for a more financially willing customer. Nemisis, Equus and Golden Nile sorta have the same vibe. In their defence they have a lot of girls and some absolute stunners. Some barfines can reach 4000 pp if mama-san smells a rookie. BFs range from 2000+ (In their defence, they often have nice looking girls).
If you buy a ladies drink, say SINGLE for 150 pp or you'll get slapped with a DOUBLE for 300 pp. Grrr hate those doubles!
The girls at One Eyed Wench (across from Kokomos) and the Dirty Duck (Next to Kokomos) are usually horny lasses. (The names of the bars have changed but someone on this site will correct me in due course, or you can ask around).
These days a beer is between 95 135 pp depending on the bar. I found 105 pp on fields was common.
If you hate dance music and like a bit of Rock and Roll, try Angel Witch, Brown Sugar (sometimes) or Roadhouse. BFs range from 1800+ (could be wrong).
As far as the bar-beer experience, Kokomos on Fields offer you a view of the street where all the girls and punters wander up and down all night, but not really the same as Pattaya. There are a couple of small bar-beer type places in between the now defunct Alaska bar and the booblicious Insomnia. I often see a few old guys playing Thai chess (connect four) and I'm sure the girls go out, but I've never asked. Also towards McDonald at the end of Fields is Paradise Beer Garden, but in all honesty its just an outdoor sports bar.
Finally A-Santos Street (Blow row) the street that runs off fields next to Kokomos or Raymond Street, the street that runs down the side of Phillies sports bar, have ST places you can sit outside and have a beer and take a girl upstairs or back to your hotel for 800 pp ST 1500 LT.
Everyone has their own opinions, but I don't like the Dollhouse group of bars (Atlantis Crystal Palace, Dollhouse, Club Asia etc) or the LaPasha Group (Muse bar or something like that! Typhoon=Monsson Genesis=Nemisis / Fantasy=Equus).
If I must party on Fields, I like Q bar, Geckos, Dirty Duck, Insomnia, Angel Witch, Texas, Lollipop (cause the girls in these bars can be fun).
If your mate is a Pattaya veteran and hasn't been to AC, I have one piece of advice. Street Walkers. : Just say no.
Anyway I think I'm just raving on now, so I'll stop!
I apologise in advance if the names of bars or prices are different, but I am confident my memory from 6 months ago is close to the mark.
Hope this helped, have fun.
[QUOTE=RichieVan;1677390]There are lots of guys selling cigarettes on the street offering ciallis and Viagra. These guys can get weed if one is so inclined. You'll have to be patient as there is a lot of bullshit involved. "Later. How much you pay. No no this is minimum 2000 pesos. I know for a fact they pay about 100 pesos for what you eventually get. And for gods sake be discreet. They are even a little nervous themselves. There's a lot of cops around. One guy showed me a bag of coke. Not interested, just saying it's possible. Always try before you buy.[/QUOTE]I like to smoke once in a while myself. But anyone that's reading this and actually thinking of purchasing smoke or any other kind of drug you should read about the laws of the particular country and the general feeling about drug use before they think about doing something like purchasing drugs from a random stranger on walking street. Although I'm sure you can get anything and guys with a lot of experience in AC have a good old time I wouldn't. I've traveled the world and I would never dream of doing this. My rule is that nothing good can come of anyone that approaches you on the street. Mongering might be the exception but I've read enough and seen what's available on the streets and that's not for me either. Pattaya might be the exception on the SW scene. But even then caution is key.
This report seems a little non-chelant about it. Don't do it.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1677810]Hope this helped, have fun.[/QUOTE]It certainly did, thanks for all that useful info.
Why do you not like the Pasha bars (Typhoon, Genesis, Pasha, Fantasy and Carousel)? I hope they haven't gone downhill because when I last visited in 2012 they were probably my favorites. They were very well run places with pretty girls, a good atmosphere and no lady drink pressure. My favorite thing was that they had a policy at their bars in which the girls would take a few steps to the left every song which meant that no matter where you sat, you'd get a great view of all of the girls. Also when the girls left the stage, they'd walk single file around the bar to give the customers a good view.
P.S- interesting that you described Insomnia as 'boobalicious', as that was very much what I thought of the place when I last visited three years ago! In fact I think I might have pondered in my diary whether they have a strict top-heavy employment policy.