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[QUOTE=Super Cum 500; 1220680]I was reading an article about AIDS / HIV and it stated that there are far more THai hookers that work in prostitution for only Thai men.

I assumed that most Thai girls work as hookers to make most money from ferang?

What hookers woudl chose to go with only Thais?

DO you think perhaps the article refers to the whole of Thailadn and rural places. Therefore in all the small citites aroudn Thailand there are many Thai only hookers?

Whereas in Bangkok and PAttaya most hookers go with farangs?

MOre money is to be made if they get job as prostiute in BKK / Pattaya with farangs?[/QUOTE]There are 80 million thai people in Thailand and about 7 million visitors any one year, all the girls would starve if they only banged foreigners. The thai men are more horny and pay way less than us, so a bit more volume makes the money add up quicker. Plus there would be lots of thai women who speak anything but thai, so how to do.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1220723]There are 80 million thai people in Thailand and about 7 million visitors any one year, all the girls would starve if they only banged foreigners. The thai men are more horny and pay way less than us, so a bit more volume makes the money add up quicker. Plus there would be lots of thai women who speak anything but thai, so how to do.[/QUOTE]To keep everyone on the right page, I did a quick fact check.

The current population of Thailand is 66,720,153 (July 2011 est.).

Source: [url]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/th.html[/url]

According to the Tourism Authority of Thailand, there were 14.5 million visitors in 2007.

Source: [url]http://www2.tat.or.th/stat/web/static_index.php[/url]

"According to reliable surveys of sexual behavior, every day at least 450,000 Thai men visit prostitutes. Thus, much of the impetus sustaining the incredible rate of prostitution in Thailand is cultural, "Thai men think it is their right to have cheap sex, and there are enough poor Thai women to make it possible."

Source: [url]http://www.sexwork.com/Thailand/traditiions.html[/url]

The above citation is from an older article (1991), but still interesting:

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/1991/07/14/magazine/a-plague-awaits.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm[/url]

And, an interesting summary article from Stickman:

[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/reader/reader291.html[/url]

hi bj here.

had a much needed day off and after sleeping as late as possible decided to get up around 11 o'clock. wasn't sure what to do with my time so went for a wander around sukhumvit, got bored with that pretty quickly so jumped on the bts and went up to siam paragon.

went for something to eat but fancied a change from thai food so ended up in an italian restaurant. after having a very good laugh at the price of the red wine (1, 800 bt for a bottle) i chose spaghetti carbonara which i have to say was very nice indeed.

thought a movie would be a good idea, so i went to see the tower heist. definitely not a great movie but had a good cast and sufficed for some light hearted entertainment.

felt a bit knackered after that so went home for a bit of a kip which was just what the doctor ordered, excuse the pun. met up with the semi regular bird about ten ish and asked her to decide on where to go. ended up at some open air joint where they bring round this large metal cooking pot with a domed lid on it and water round the edge. it's a buffet arrangement (although she kept referring to it as a bbq, i can kind of see where she is coming from) well you cook the food yourself and i thought this is going to take a while so ordered up 2 beers and was pleasantly surprised when the waitress brought out 2 large bottles. the semi regular took care of the cooking part so i concentrated on the beer drinking part, she peeled the prawns and all that kind of shit and i just sat back and ate. i am still amazed at thai people's capacity to eat, way after i was full she just kept putting the stuff away and we were the last people to leave the place.

on the way home, we stopped into a pool bar for a couple of games and a couple of drinks, then headed off. when we jumped into bed and started the usual grope fest followed by the mandatory bj (have to give it to her she is a bit of a maestro on the skin flute) she started telling me she had read a magazine which said that farangs are partial to a bit of anal, bingo! now although i do like it to be honest i'm not one that sees it as a compulsory part of sex, can take it or leave it if the truth be told, but had never tried it with her. i'm not sure if our recent group sessions or the alcohol she had consumed had made her feel a bit more liberated, but i wasn't about to start questioning her motivation. i slipped a condom on and bent her legs up close to her ears. i did show enough respect to ease it in gradually via some ky jelly and when she was eventually loosened up started slamming away. she did seem to enjoy it eventually, lucky for her, so i turned her over onto all fours and carried on, i was considerate enough to give her a reach-around. not pointing out the obvious but it was a lot tighter than her pussy, which is part of the fun and did have a nice jolting cum. was pretty tired by that point so after going into the shower jumped into bed and crashed out.

time very well spent for a day off i think.

ciao, bj

Checking in from E. Europe and the Middle East here. This place is a monger's dream then? I should go? Russia has been my favorite so far. Cheap, easy and great service.

Guys, a friend is now in BKK and is gettiing some heavy news. He says all the girls in Nana are wanting 600 BF and 4000 for LT. He says they are sticking to that and you pay the bar the whole amount before you leave. Knowing we not in AC I believe this is new operation or is he hiting the wrong places. He did get one down to 3000. Don't know if he paid the whole thing up front. I do know he has been going to the Rainbow bars in Nana. Some Aussie told him the same pricing in Soi Cowboy. He also mentioned a FL for 2 hours he found for 1000 Baht.

I told him 3000 for LT should be the top end and 1500 to 2500 for ST depending on the girl.

I should add he is of Chinese decent although he was US born and raised. Wondering if that look might have something to do with it : Thinking he might be one of the Japanese and should spend big bucks.

Any help on this subject that is current will help. I have told him to go other places and named a few for him to look at.

[QUOTE=Mackin;1220793]Guys, a friend is now in BKK and is gettiing some heavy news.[/QUOTE]I was in both Nana and soi cowboy some 6-8 weeks ago on a discovery mission hitting a lot of gogo.

In all of them the mama San was showing the customers a printed card on the back of their bar I'd card reading exactly what you say: bar fine 600. ST 2000, LT 4000.

Casual or non informed mongers might go for that as the price is good by western standards.

But we know it is inflated, especially if it is a hit or miss. I paid 4k for a non gogo bar girl I knew and I knew what I was gettijg. Not FIR a blind jump as such.

Also better book for ST. And tell her you extend to' LT if she does her job well.

Well the final countdown has begun. Beijing far behind in the dust I wait with anticipation. 7 days. I have been watching the board and it is getting much better. But seems to be still a lot of debates here. I had some great times in Beijing and Tianjin and more fun reporting on here. So how about stopping the needless debates about BKK or Pattaya or you pay too much! Lets here so quality reports! Here is my dilemma. Where should I go first to break my cherry in BKK, Soi Cowboy, Nana, can anyone give me a suggestion? I love the bar scene and the pleasure of the hunt! I frequented Maggies, Chocolate, Zhu in Beijing all the time plus others in Tianjin. Thrill of the hunt is the best! Can anyone recommend a place similar to Maggies in BKK? I am also very open to meeting up with a fellow member for a night out! Pm me if interested. But be warned it could get ugly! Drunken threesomes 2 girls on one are my specialty. So be prepared for a 2 guy 4 girl all out orgy maybe LOL!

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1220804]I was in both Nana and soi cowboy some 6-8 weeks ago on a discovery mission hitting a lot of gogo.

In all of them the mama San was showing the customers a printed card on the back of their bar I'd card reading exactly what you say: bar fine 600. ST 2000, LT 4000.

But we know it is inflated, especially if it is a hit or miss.[/QUOTE]Wow! I take this new LT Go Go price as an insult. If a girl quotes me this rate, I intend to laugh right in her face (in a casual easy way of course). It is not that I can't afford it, but this is truly outrageous. Most of the Go Go girls are just not worth it IMHO. Last February, I spotted only a few stunners in Baccara way down from the number I saw in 2010 and paying up front almost insures mediocre performance. If they don't respect me, I don't see why I should do business with them. Fuck it. There is no economic justification for it. Inflation? Short Supply? NO! Don't these people know the world (including Thailand) is on the precipace of economic recession. What are the numbers on Thai tourism? Not up. Bangkok hotels are offering really good deals again. So it just looks like greed and a little stupidity combined with a lack of respect for the farang that is driving these price hikes. If this is the new reality, I will take my business to the massage parlors exclusively and do more outcalls. I may end up spending more money, but the girls will be better. I go for quality. Still I can't quite believe it. They may start out asking for 4000bt LT, but I think they will come down off that if you act like you know what you are doing and are prepared to leave them in the dust. Maybe not. I will find out it Feb. Good advice B Man:

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1220804]better book for ST. And tell her you extend to' LT if she does her job well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mooris7;1220809]Here is my dilemma. Where should I go first to break my cherry in BKK, Soi Cowboy, Nana, can anyone give me a suggestion? I love the bar scene and the pleasure of the hunt![/QUOTE]I like the bar scene too Mooris, but the massage parlors are better IMHO (I have used this expression twice in my two last posts). But don't take my word for it. My advice to you is hit Baccara & Rainbow IV (arguably the best Go Go's in town) on your first two nights. You will have a good time and be thoroughly ensconced in the BKK Go Go scene. Then check out Mango Massage, Baccara (expensive – but top talent) and Copa Cabana and see which venues you prefer - Go Go, Oily, or Soapy. To get you pointed in the right direction, take a look here: http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/home.php?


The great thing about BKK is all the different options available and the great food.

[QUOTE=Super Cum 500; 1220680]I assumed that most Thai girls work as hookers to make most money from ferang?

What hookers woudl chose to go with only Thais?

DO you think perhaps the article refers to the whole of Thailadn and rural places. Therefore in all the small citites aroudn Thailand there are many Thai only hookers?

Whereas in Bangkok and PAttaya most hookers go with farangs?

MOre money is to be made if they get job as prostiute in BKK / Pattaya with farangs?[/QUOTE]Actually SC500, your assumption is wrong - the Thais generally pay about the same amount as farang, particularly when you take into account time spent. Even the lower-end of the Thai business, at about 500 baht per session, isn't bad money as the session is typically 20 minutes long. And most middle class Thai men pay big money (typically 1000-3000 baht) as they want very beautiful girls. White skin, womanly figure. In general the Thais would not touch the women who go into the farang oriented business as they are seen as unattractive (dark skin, Isaan features, angular boyish assless build) , and / or unappealing (crass, abrasive). Think of it this way - all the 'best' service providers go for Thai customers, as Thais in general despise farang, but those women who would not be easily salable in the Thai market due to unattractiveness can go and make roughly the same money in the farang market. Some drawbacks most of them mention, aside from their general dislike of farang, are that the farang 'take too long', are often into kinky sex, and mostly refuse to use condoms unlike Thai men, who rigorously practice 'safe sex' with prostitutes.

[QUOTE=Opebo;1220836]Actually SC500, your assumption is wrong - the Thais generally pay about the same amount as farang, particularly when you take into account time spent. Even the lower-end of the Thai business, at about 500 baht per session, isn't bad money as the session is typically 20 minutes long. And most middle class Thai men pay big money (typically 1000-3000 baht) as they want very beautiful girls. White skin, womanly figure. In general the Thais would not touch the women who go into the farang oriented business as they are seen as unattractive (dark skin, Isaan features, angular boyish assless build) , and / or unappealing (crass, abrasive). Think of it this way - all the 'best' service providers go for Thai customers, as Thais in general despise farang, but those women who would not be easily salable in the Thai market due to unattractiveness can go and make roughly the same money in the farang market. Some drawbacks most of them mention, aside from their general dislike of farang, are that the farang 'take too long', are often into kinky sex, and mostly refuse to use condoms unlike Thai men, who rigorously practice 'safe sex' with prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I thought it was more common for Thai men not to use condoms?

So, how would a farang go about finding lighter skinned more attractive Thai girls? He can't? These girls work in establishments that only Thai men can use?

So, the girls that work in BKK and Pattaya that service Farang men are in general quite ugly? Or only ugly to Thais as skin is dark? Or they are just generally more ugly. If a girl is attractive and in Bangkok or Pattaya shell be working in Thai sex industry?

What about attractive girls that decide to work in the Farang industry? There are some? Why would they chose this option?

[QUOTE=Opebo;1220836]Actually SC500, your assumption is wrong - the Thais generally pay about the same amount as farang, particularly when you take into account time spent. Even the lower-end of the Thai business, at about 500 baht per session, isn't bad money as the session is typically 20 minutes long. And most middle class Thai men pay big money (typically 1000-3000 baht) as they want very beautiful girls. White skin, womanly figure. In general the Thais would not touch the women who go into the farang oriented business as they are seen as unattractive (dark skin, Isaan features, angular boyish assless build) , and / or unappealing (crass, abrasive). Think of it this way - all the 'best' service providers go for Thai customers, as Thais in general despise farang, but those women who would not be easily salable in the Thai market due to unattractiveness can go and make roughly the same money in the farang market. Some drawbacks most of them mention, aside from their general dislike of farang, are that the farang 'take too long', are often into kinky sex, and mostly refuse to use condoms unlike Thai men, who rigorously practice 'safe sex' with prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Absolutely spot on and the longer I am here the less Isaan gals appeal to me. We were in Thermae one night and were talking with a Japanese guy. After an hour or so he asked us what gals we liked. When we pointed out the white skinned ladies, he was a bit shocked and asked,"Why do white guys like women who look like monkeys?" One friend's girlfriend said it best."When foreigners come to Thailand their eyes don't work." Takes a few years for them to work that is for sure. It is tough for me to go into most GoGo bars and find a female who is attractive to me. Might think at first glance, wow, but that fades after seeing the square jawline, the blotchy dark skin, and most of all being around the "crass abrasive" demeanor.

Unfortunately you are also right about the sex and performance. I still have farang tastes in sex. Would love to find a place with super hot white skinned quality gals who perform like porn stars. Not really on the menu in Thailand.

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Giotto

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1220959]Absolutely spot on and the longer I am here the less Isaan gals appeal to me.[/QUOTE]Each to his own, but I've been here since I was a kid and they still look fine to me. In fact I loved it when Yui Rojjana became a top international model much to the distaste of the Bangkok Hi-so with their obsession with light skin.

The fact is that there are plenty of absolutely lovely women from every region of Thailand, and of course plenty of total skanks too. It's about taste in women, not geography.

I think this needs to be tied down.

Most men with a brain will go for a girl who gives them great sex.

I mean, in Thailand what is the point of having a nice looking girl on your arm if she is lousy or just plain normal in bed.

No, when here you find absolute stunners in the bedroom and go with them.

This is what the Japs and the white skinned Bangkok girls cannot understand. For them sex is 3 minutes of grunting and thats that.

This is why farangs in general go for girls who the Hi-so community does not like. But also is too afraid to acknowledge its the lack of bedroom skills and enthusiasm on their part.

But yes, there are some who think its more about having eye candy on your arm than having a great time in bed. And for them the white skinned Bangkok girl is ideal. You pay the money, you prance around with the tart on your arm and are as miserable as sin in the bed.

Think I side with the farangs who like dark, brown, yellow, whatever skin colour, provided they are great in the bedroom!

[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1220959]Absolutely spot on and the longer I am here the less Isaan gals appeal to me. We were in Thermae one night and were talking with a Japanese guy. After an hour or so he asked us what gals we liked. When we pointed out the white skinned ladies, he was a bit shocked and asked,"Why do white guys like women who look like monkeys?" One friend's girlfriend said it best."When foreigners come to Thailand their eyes don't work." Takes a few years for them to work that is for sure. It is tough for me to go into most GoGo bars and find a female who is attractive to me. Might think at first glance, wow, but that fades after seeing the square jawline, the blotchy dark skin, and most of all being around the "crass abrasive" demeanor.

Unfortunately you are also right about the sex and performance. I still have farang tastes in sex. Would love to find a place with super hot white skinned quality gals who perform like porn stars. Not really on the menu in Thailand.[/QUOTE]