Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Does anyone know if it's possible to get from Vung Tao to Mui Ne without going via Saigon?

Thanks,

Krum[/QUOTE]

You can go from Vung tau to Mui Ne/Phan Thiet without going through HCM. You can ask the local travel agency to set it up for you in Vung Tau. From Vung tau, take the road back to HCM. There will be an intersection called "Nga ba Vung Tau," if you take a right at that intersection, it will take you up to Mui Ne. If you go straight, it will take you to HCM. You only save about 35km.

Any mongers or expat willing to monger together? This would be my first time in HCMC from March 23 to March 28. Buying the first round. Will also check out the Apocalypse club.

[QUOTE=CC Train]Thank you for the SIM card info.

I'm just preparing myself for HCM on April 6.

What kind of shots do you think is absolutely neccessary?

I've heard everything from malaria to hep A.

These shots are freaking expensive and I want to get only the neccessity.

I'm a Vietnamese from the US.

I will be staying mainly in the big cities.[/QUOTE]I am the same as you, Vietnamese American (Viet Kieu). I find that the only ones I need are the regular flu shots. Any other shots, well, they are the ones that you might need if you go mongering. Otherwise you can get them as needed here in Vietnam.

[QUOTE=Amper]Any mongers or expat willing to monger together? This would be my first time in HCMC from March 23 to March 28. Buying the first round. Will also check out the Apocalypse club.[/QUOTE]I am not what you would call an active monger, but I am a somewhat passive monger. Would love to get together with you or anyone else for drinks and possible mongering.

[QUOTE=Berny X]I'm thinking of going over there from Bangkok. Is is better to get me Visa here in the US or in Thailand, or either way?[/QUOTE]I recommend going to Bangkok first anyways if your main purpose is mongering. It's so much easier there and then you can just relax in Vietnam without being so desperate. I can only assume you have other reasons for going to Vietnam. Getting a visa in Bangkok is about 1600 baht for three days service. In the US it's only convenient if you can easily reach San Francisco or Washington.

I can only assume the reasons why but when I walked by Allez Boo tonight I noticed it was shuttered and closed.

Also, there are plenty of people who live in Vietnam who have never had immunizations of any kind and many of them are still alive. Just like there are many people who never use protection and some of them still don't have HIV. You can definitely get all of your immunizations cheaply in Bangkok, about $100 for what you would pay $1000 for in the states.

[QUOTE=Nonthab]CC Train,

I've been in SE Asia for 3 years and never had any shots. I pretty much stick to the cities so the diseases to worry about aren't prevelant in the cities. There's always a small chance but you'd be best to worry about food poisoning or a motorbike accident, far more likely.[/QUOTE]Hep A is quite prevelent in cities (20-30% of Vietnamese have it). It's contracted via food/drink preparation from the infected person who's preparing your meals/drinks. It's worth getting this shot, as it will also help you in other places, including your home town. Hep B is very important if your planning on spending time swapping fluids with locals. The cost is high, but its better than dieing from liver failure.

I suggest you go to the CDC website and read up on their recommendations.

[QUOTE=Saigon Ican]I recommend going to Bangkok first anyways if your main purpose is mongering. It's so much easier there and then you can just relax in Vietnam without being so desperate. I can only assume you have other reasons for going to Vietnam. Getting a visa in Bangkok is about 1600 baht for three days service. In the US it's only convenient if you can easily reach San Francisco or Washington.[/QUOTE]Easier way to get your visa is to arrange a "pre-arranged" visa via a local travel agent. Check out Vietnam Stay. They can arrange it all and are 100% legit (there office is next to my wife's office) in Mai Lin Point. You pay them a fee (I believe it's $35), then pay $25 when you arrive at the airport. All the information is on their website in the upper right hand corner.

[url]http://www.vietnamstay.com/[/url]

Allez Boo is going through much needed renovations like Go2 did a couple of months ago.

I'm always into drinks & mongering with anyone. But dunno how you regular members can contact me...

Seamanship,

In another post, a member said this about the BJ shop on vung tau:

Next day I decided to check out 568 Le Loi, the 100k BJ place. The numbers on Le Loi stop at 466 after that there's nothing but wharf & sea. I checked all the Hem's around there couldn't find it.

So is that the correct address? Another member suggested you may have meant Le Lai street? Can you confirm?

Thanks,

Krum

Sorry, Allez Boo is not going through renovations. Reliable sources tell me it's been bought out by someone who has also bought another property on Pham Ngu Lao & is after more. Seems this person sees a gold mine in the area. For sure Allez Boo would of cost a lot as it seemed to do a roaring trade & the location is near perfect.

Ok folks, the time has come. I contributed a lot in the late 90’s in Thailand and other Asia locations under "Bushtucker man". Time to give not lurk. Herewith my view of Ho Chi Minh City P4P. This review based on 5 trips over the last 6 months.

It’s fucking brilliant. I’m comparing to Bangkok, Manila, KL, Singapore, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Beijing, London, Paris, Las Vegas, LA and many more. Only German FKK comes close. Why? Because the girls are so fresh and inexperienced. Real orgasm’s, real GFE.

The facts. Your options are.

1/ Massage downtown D1 2/ Bar girls 3/ Moto girls 4/ Hot Toc

First up. .

A) If you’re staying 3* or up and are planning action, #1, get yourself your own play room. Best to head over Nguyen Hue and get a hotel away from plain clothes police who hang around Ho Huan Nghiep, Dong Du, Mac Thi Buoi, HBT, Thi Sach and Thai Van Lung – where all the action is. Best safe houses that will give you a fine room for $25-$30 are Luc Phuc at 104 Ky Con and La Dauphin corner Le Thi Hong Gam and Ky Con. Don’t take a girl and do drugs in New Hotel but for a quick bang while your missus isn’t looking it’s fine. Ho Sen are also very accommodating. New Hotel is on Ho Huan Nghiep just off the bottom of DK and Ho Sen is just up from Apocalyspe Now on Thi Sach.

B) Moto’s – these guys all get 50, 000 – 100, 000 kick backs when they take you anywhere and you lowest negotiable price will go up by that and more. See below – hire one of the guys for half/full days – promise a 100, 000 – 200, 000 tip if they treat you good and tell them you know about the kickbacks. If you’re just going for a ‘strike’ – get them to drop you on a corner intersection and walk to your destination from there.

Massage downtown

For a quick fix, Government kickbacks allow Yawara (cnr DK and Dong Du) and Sacha (alley way 50 m up Dong Du from the Sheraton) in particular to offer HJ/BJ to international guests. You will pay but the service is good to world class. Negotiate up front than get your money’s worth. You won’t pay less than 800, 000 and often 1m and they’ll start you at the magic US$100 (1, 600, 000) so don’t wait until she’s got you hard. A 30 minute long slow HJ/BJ with oil very under rated in my book. Other massage places in D1 are mostly legit although some of the girls will give you their number if they like you.

Bar Girls

These girls are different to Thai bar girls. They don’t get anything like the volume of business and are very frequently completely new. Check policy on lady drinks to take a girl out before you do anything. Best from sampling all of them is NY Saigon, followed by Cali. Chieu Thuy is a dump away from the action but has some very choice fresh girls and has backhanders that let them stay open after 1am most nights. It’s the place to end your night. Ny Saigon (on Dong Du) is the only place without lady drink cover and strict no drugs – so if the safest bet for the risk averse. Ms Bao at Cali (on Mac Thi Buoi) will try to get 6, 50, 000 lady drinks. Mr Hi at Chieu Thuy Top of Thai Van Lung Cnr Ly Tu Trong) will try for 8 but will go 6 if you ask up front. If you want in house BJ for 400, 000. #29 at the bottom of DK has a single room for that purpose and #49 and #51 will sometimes oblige and sometimes not. Price to take a girl out is always going to start at US$100 asking – all will go with $50 if you look like you know prices. LT can be got for $75. Not particularly cheap. But oh the quality. 9’s and 10’s to be found.

Each place has it’s own ‘safe house’ and you’ll pay an extra $25 or more for ST and may get hassled. Get your own room before you start.

Bars are not hard to find. As of my last trip there is now a small tourist map on sale in lots of shops and hotels (eg Ho Sen, Apocalyse Now, Linh Hotel) called the MySherpa guide/map. US$6. You can buy it online [url]www.mysherpa. Info[/url]. This has all the places marked.

Moto Girls

Head to the bottom of DK. To a man these dudes make their money from girls & drugs. I’ve tried them all. Tam 0907 756 679 has access to dozens. He’ll negotiate down to 500, 000. Quality from 6-8. He is also your man to give you your Hot Toc experience. Don’t give him any money in advance. Most trust worthy, likeable and all round nice guy who will take care of everything for you, is Hiep. Book him for moto tours, and all the action – 200, 000 half day 400, 000 full day will keep him your friend. 0908 133 955. He can get some great girls – 7 – 9.

Hot Toc

Ah the joy. Head out of D1 to crumby places filled with amazing girls who don’t see many westerners. Negotiate this with Hiep or Tam above and they can get you a splendid BJ/HJ for 300, 000 – 400, 000. These girls will also then be delighted to head into D1 to your shag pad in the morning or after work for a very affordable price. On sample of 5 different Hot Toc’s, all were good. If you’re going on your own steam – try Thanh Ngan at 252a Ly Thai To St in D3 Tel 8322 532. My personal favourite is Hong Ngoc at 29/4 Huynh Tan Phat – KP2 – P. Binh Thuan in D7. Just because I think I was the first foreigner they had ever seen and the girls fought over who could ‘do’ me. The enthusiasm of the service was unrivalled. My 18 year girl couldn’t keep the grin off her face and did a very very long BJ with porn star like skill. She came over at 7. 30am the following morning to my hotel and fucked my brains out for an hour before I started work – again 400, 000.

I fucking love Saigon

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Great report, Roger!

You seem to know the place well. What does a not-so-frequent visitor do to get around? I'll be in HCMC for only a couple of days and would not mind paying someone local (who speaks English) to take me around and help avoid wasting time. Any recommendations?

Thanks for the report. The hot toc at Thanh Ngan at 252a Ly Thai To St, can you please give me directions, including cross streets, etc? I can't Ly Thai To St on any Saigon maps I've checked.

Thanks,

Krum

[QUOTE=Mercboy]Great report, Roger!

You seem to know the place well. What does a not-so-frequent visitor do to get around? I'll be in HCMC for only a couple of days and would not mind paying someone local (who speaks English) to take me around and help avoid wasting time. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Hi Mercboy,

Call Hiep [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. He can cover all your needs.

Great Guy.

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