General Reports

[QUOTE=OCTraveler]As a long time TJ vet (in fact probably heading back down there Sunday night), yes there are a lot of potential pitfalls but here are my thoughts on how to avoid problems in my best David Letterman coundown format ...

5. Watch the liquor. - Can't say how many times too many $2 Corona's have led to seeing someone get into a fight or getting hasseled by the policia.

4. You're in control of the negotiations. - Look around - you're in a buyer's market! Find who you want, offer what you want (within reason) and if she says no, move on to your next option.

3. Remember, pros or not, they're still women. - I'm not going to suggest you "treat them like you'd like someone to treat your daughter" but I am going to suggest you "treat them better than you treat your daughter's dog."

2. Leave your attitude in San Diego. - Go down their to play, not to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] people off.

And the most important (IMHO) thing to remember ...

1. At all times remember YOU'RE IN A FORIEGN COUNTRY. - I don't care how close San Diego is...once you cross the border and hop in that cab and say "Adelitas por favor", you've entered into another world that is nothing like what you've grown up in. People actually live in those shacks ... the kids on the sidewalk actually are that dirty all the time ... the policia actually do let the chicas sit on their cars while they say "Go to the room?" ... and most important, when you are there you HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEIR RULES.

Be safe & have fun ...[/QUOTE]I would add a few more ideas from here that have served me well over time. Though all of the ideas you have given make a ton of sense.

1) Never have all of your money in one spot. I tend to put around $40 in my shirt pocket (buttoned all of the time). I never get this money out for bar transactions. I had a problem a long time ago on revo ave where I lost my wallet in a bar. Luckily I had a friend with money to get to the border. I also leave my passport in this pocket at all times. Though in the Zona I have never had this problem.

2) Never talk to any of the street hustlers. They are constantly trying to sell me drugs, special chicas, and such. I just walk on and politely say "no thanks". I will duck into a bar if need be.

3) Never have anything illegal on you. This includes Cialas or Viagra. I usually take a pill on the US side and/or buy at the pharmacy right by the McDonalds and then take in the store and then get into a cab. I have been frised by the cops many times and I was allways glad to have nothing on me. If you really next extra pills while in the Zona (I have been there believe me) get a cab to the 24h pharmacy near the Zona. I have offered $3 each way and the cab will wait, though I paid $3 as I left. No sense in walking that far at night.

What's up mongers. I haven't been to TJ since 2002. With the dollar in the toilet, I can't go to brazil anymore. It looks like I might have to go back to TJ again. What has changed in the last 6 years. I can't believe it's been that long. Is AB still a smoke filled sardine can. CC had better girls back then and the going rate was 60. How is the crime. I have seen reports on tv that the border is a war zone now. Is this true or just scare tactics by the media. Any new clubs. Have they finally fixed the streets CC. A quick summary would be nice.

Thanks

All I can say is to memorize these three words: Watch your ass. The dumb bastards that run the police force don't realize that they are screwing up tourism in their city and country. They have spent the last 5 years or so shaking down foreigners (Mostly from the USA) for their money. Ain't that some shit!!! If you don't believe me, look up some of the testimonials on the board. Remember, this is just from the monger scene. Regular tourists have been getting the same harrassment from the police as well. I know people who used to go to TJ for cheap prescriptions, etc. Many have stopped taking the trip cold turkey because the risk far outweights the benefit, not to mention their stupidity and ignorance. They once had a great thing going downthere; they were an alternative to high US prices. Now, the country has become a crapshoot for criminals with their own law enforment as the highest profile perpetrator of criminal activity. If you've got to go, go. I highly suggest doing so during daylight hours. It would significantly reduce your profile and reduce the chances they would go after you with bright lights in their dimwit faces.
[QUOTE=Brazilman]What's up mongers. I haven't been to TJ since 2002. With the dollar in the toilet, I can't go to brazil anymore. It looks like I might have to go back to TJ again. What has changed in the last 6 years. I can't believe it's been that long. Is AB still a smoke filled sardine can. CC had better girls back then and the going rate was 60. How is the crime. I have seen reports on tv that the border is a war zone now. Is this true or just scare tactics by the media. Any new clubs. Have they finally fixed the streets CC. A quick summary would be nice.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

If you've been away from the Zona for 6 years or so, one of the most noticable changes is the new stamped concrete sidewalks in the alley. The street has been narrowed to a single lane and the sidewalks widened to take up the extra space. An expensive renovation. The place was tough to negotiate during the work, I remember climing over hills to get across the street. The new street lights and trees are a nice touch, obviously they were expecting the traffic flow to increase.

But what happened in the past few years turned the Zona into a ghost town compared to three years ago.

The economy is very bad which should translate into better negotiations between you and the girl. It also translates into more petty crime as well as some pretty serious crime.

Now, everyone is on the hustle in the Zona. It's a culture that pays their rent every week or day. Dope is still a major problem, and the street hustlers are more dangerous now than every before. Some work with the cops to score your money. Don't be afraid to ignore these guys, they are not your friends. MOst everyone is running a con of some sort, including many girls; especially walkers who will rip you off big time.

After 6 years away you should find much more aggressive maseros and bar girls (especially at Adelita Bar). You need to watch your money flows carefully and count your change. Revolution is a mess, tourism is a disaster, not much good to say.

Sex still sells however and if you can behave while keeping those eyes in the back of your head wide open, and use a few ounces of common sense then you should be fine.

Country John

I never drank and still don't drink, so I always had eyes in the back of my head. I think I read a post that it's now 30 minutes at AB. Wasn't it 40 minutes back in the day. My favorite strip club used to be peanuts andbeer. How is that place nowadays. I used to pull girls out of there for about 70, for a few hours in my room. The one thing that I won't like, that I'm used to from brazil, is the girls don't seem to showere before and after sex in tj. With only 30 minutes now, I would think hygiene is even worse now. How could the economy be worse now. It was always shitty.

It sounds like Costa Rica is the better place to go.

Anyone from here been there lately.

I haven't been there since 2003.

I've been going to Adelita Bar weekly for the last month now and most of the women wash after sex. The last one washed before and after. They all do it in the sink and it looks funny but as long as they wash I'm happier.

[QUOTE=Brazilman]It sounds like Costa Rica is the better place to go.

Anyone from here been there lately.

I haven't been there since 2003.[/QUOTE]I was in Costa Rica December 2006 and in Tijuana December 2007. The women in Tijuana look better and dress sexier then the women in Costa Rica.

The going rate in Costa Rica is $80-$100 for ST. Colombianas---$100-$150. The girls are settling for $60-$80, with Colombianas settling for $80-$100.

If you are looking for a GFE or Long Term experience in Costa Rica is much better. THere are more oppoutunities to laugh,dance and buy girls drinks in Costa Rica. I did all of this and spent 3-4 hours with some of these girls for $60-$80.

I did have one GFE experience with a girl from the Chicago Club in Tijuana. I went into Chicago around 2am when there were 5-6 girls in there. A girl came over and ask me if i wanted company. I ende up spending 3 hours dancing,buying lady drinks,kissing and fingering her. We agreed to go to a hotel for 1 hour(hotel fee-$24) and $100 for services. This was my only GFE experience in Tijuana. The rest were shor term and very mechanical.

I have been to Costa Rica on five different occasions and have always had GFE experiences that lasted 3 to 24 hours and cost $35-$120.

I think it all depends on the type of experience you are looking for.

Prob they often just wash the coochie and if youve been sucking her tits and belly... well they dont wash that between guys. I like chicago club in that they are usually lower volume so often you might the be first guy of the night and alot of them do take full showers though they have been slacking during winter since shower water takes so long to heat up. Plus its pretty easy to track which girls go up alot in CC and thus might not be so 'fresh' by late evening.

I've been with some girls at AB that didn't shower afterwards. They would simply freshen up like spraying some body wash or similar. And some of the girls that I've come on, like on their tits or stomach, they'll just rinse that area by splashing water on it, get dressed and go back downstairs. There are the few that shower after every session though. I mostly go with those girls, they're the clean ones. They're also the ones that insist on cleaning up the guy with lotions before starting. Which is kind of nice cause they'll rub lotion all over my cock and balls before putting the condom on it. It's a turn on.

Hello Guys,

What is a clean safe place to stay in the Zona Roja?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Country John]If you've been away from the Zona for 6 years or so, one of the most noticable changes is the new stamped concrete sidewalks in the alley. The street has been narrowed to a single lane and the sidewalks widened to take up the extra space. An expensive renovation. The place was tough to negotiate during the work, I remember climing over hills to get across the street. The new street lights and trees are a nice touch, obviously they were expecting the traffic flow to increase.

But what happened in the past few years turned the Zona into a ghost town compared to three years ago.

The economy is very bad which should translate into better negotiations between you and the girl. It also translates into more petty crime as well as some pretty serious crime.

Now, everyone is on the hustle in the Zona. It's a culture that pays their rent every week or day. Dope is still a major problem, and the street hustlers are more dangerous now than every before. Some work with the cops to score your money. Don't be afraid to ignore these guys, they are not your friends. MOst everyone is running a con of some sort, including many girls; especially walkers who will rip you off big time.

After 6 years away you should find much more aggressive maseros and bar girls (especially at Adelita Bar). You need to watch your money flows carefully and count your change. Revolution is a mess, tourism is a disaster, not much good to say.

Sex still sells however and if you can behave while keeping those eyes in the back of your head wide open, and use a few ounces of common sense then you should be fine.

Country John[/QUOTE]

There are also pole-mounted cameras with panic buttons at either end of the alley. Because of the possibility of a profitable shakedown, local cops sprint en mass whenever they hear of a disturbance.

[QUOTE=Country John]Classic. IN the future, REFUSE TO PAY. REFUSE TO PAY. REFUSE TO PAY. REFUSE TO PAY. REFUSE TO PAY.

Your friend MUST follow through on this. The cops WILL be arrested.[/QUOTE]

My friend did follow up on his report of being robbed by zona police and sure enough, the chief was there to meet him the following Saturday. He lined up all area cops for identification and the two robbers were stupid enough to be standing next to each other, making this an easier process. We don't know what their punishment was but all money was returned plus a twenty.

[QUOTE=Blackhawk 101]So 1st timmer go to Adelitas, CC or Hong Kong? I like then about 5' 4" and spinners.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for spinners i would suggest Adelitas or some of the girls in the alley. The disadvantage to selecting the alley girls is that they do not have a health card and are very mechanical. THe starting rate is $15-$20 for about $15-20 minutes of sex. They will try to upsell you to take off all of their clothes or get into more then 2 positions. You have to also be careful because they look very young. I think Adelitas has the best looking spinners, but the Hong Kong Club is a good place to go first for "lighter fluid". There is a freaky lesbian show that takes place twice a night. I caught the last one around 2am. It included two jars of Costco size cherries and two bottles of Costco size chocolate syrup. The Hong Kong Club is the best place to isolate a girl and potentially get a gfe experience. This club has the least amount of spinners.

[QUOTE=Supermonger2]There are also pole-mounted cameras with panic buttons at either end of the alley. Because of the possibility of a profitable shakedown, local cops sprint en mass whenever they hear of a disturbance.[/QUOTE]


Really? I've never seen those. Where exactly are they?