Athens

[QUOTE=Wikman;2848436]This youtube video gives you an orientation about how the 10 walk-ins work:

Youtube link ends in: / watch? V=2 DSa_BhqQeo.

It's pretty bleak, but that's to be expected when we're dealing with women who have sex for 10 where the house takes 50%, leaving her with 5. Also, it shows something of how the human trafficking networks operate with paid tickets that leave girls with a debt to pay off before they are allowed to leave.

The world is an ugly place sometimes. I'll be visiting "studios" only after seeing that, since studio girls are registered, pay taxes, have checks, and generally are part of the system.[/QUOTE]Be sure that human trafficking applies to less than 0. 1% of working girls. The low price reflects the low property value and hence the low rent. If a girl has 6 clients who stay 5-10 min each it means that she earns 30 euro per hour. In Greece people work hard works like going to the field to collect peaches etc and they earn 30 euro in 8-10 HR. This is the reason why many women choose this job and not because of trafficking.

[QUOTE=MorandUK;2848461]Be sure that human trafficking applies to less than 0. 1% of working girls. The low price reflects the low property value and hence the low rent. If a girl has 6 clients who stay 5-10 min each it means that she earns 30 euro per hour. In Greece people work hard works like going to the field to collect peaches etc and they earn 30 euro in 8-10 HR. This is the reason why many women choose this job and not because of trafficking.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the information. The video was very helpful. I will be sure to do a review once trip is over.

One last question, I hate the generic google search recommendations so I'm looking for the best site for escorts in Athens. Please and thank you!

Here is the link [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DSa_BhqQeo[/URL].

Generally the video is good with the exception that some good looking establishments are probably from different areas. People should not confuse the term "trafficked" with the legal term. In some countries there are laws that prohibit giving money to someone to travel and do sex work. I don't know what the law in Greece is. The important thing in this video is that women choose to do this job because they want a comfortable life and not because they are forced. They choose to earn 150-200 euro per day (even more if you include the extras) without paying taxes instead of working 8 HR minimum wage and earning 25-30 after taxes.

Hello,

I fly to Athens and later Chalkidiki next week. Searching for Chalkidiki ads found as there are not many information about working girls in this area I've found this Page [URL]https://escortlist.gr/[/URL]

Lots of ads not only from Athens but from most places in Greece. But looks a bit like a scam when read some women details. And so my question is if anybody tried this page and have aby experience? Thank You in advance for any comments.

[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2848177]1.) Am curious myself about the current state of things. Any boots on the ground with current Athens intel please step up?

2.) Two answers: The Filis / Metax white lights: door with white lights, there's sound of music inside plus a cloth on handle to keep door from accidentally locking from the outside, simply help yourself inside and wait in lobby.

The official listed studios with time tables online: need to ring the buzzer, but they're quick usually 8 seconds or less. Then same wait in lobby.

3.) It varies girl to girl, I'd say 1 in 10 or 1 in 8 the A game is on menu (and usually included in fixed price).

The host at girl's intro will say either "pussy no ass" or "pussy ass" usually pointing at obvious. Also might say "kiss here" pointing of girl allows licking tits and / or licking (oral) on her.

And the nationality / ethnicity doesn't matter.

No code words, in room just say anal or ass and she'll know what you want. Rambling off topic but in Spain "Greek" slang for anal meanwhile in Greece "Spanish" slang for tit fuck.

4.) All supplies are included. Studios take it up a notch providing a shower and towel before and after session.

5.) I'm not all mongers. But I personally wouldn't walk around Athens with more than 60-80 nor flash / make publicly known large quantities hobby / general.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your characteristically informative post. I don't think Filis girls clean their bodies between the sessions. Am I wrong? As for racial issues, a few places refuse Arabs and dark skin visitors. It's a fairly safe area though the street looks seedy.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2857006]I appreciate your characteristically informative post. I don't think Filis girls clean their bodies between the sessions. Am I wrong? As for racial issues, a few places refuse Arabs and dark skin visitors. It's a fairly safe area though the street looks seedy.[/QUOTE]Certainly they don't take shower between clients. They just use a wet wipe and that is that.

[QUOTE=Sofiy;2759113]I came again to Athens again September 2022 to visit my uncle. I live in Serbia so it is not far.

Metaxourgeio. Area is bigger than I thought. There are studios even 1 km away. 90% are old, fat, ugly. Don't spend money there. Not even 10. Keep the searching. There is good looking, skinny, 22 yr old girls there. I visited one from Romania. She was beautiful. I can't believe only 10. No GFE. Also good looking Russian girl, okay 32 yr Greece lady near Alexandrou and Kolonou streets. Everything 10 for 10 minutes. Covered BJ, covered sex.

Filis. Also a lot of ugly, old, fat ladies. Don't spend money there. Knock on many doors. There are skinny beautiful girls there. Russian, Moldavian, and Romanian and one from Thailand. 22-30 years old, skinny, great breats. Everything 20 for 10 minutes. Covered BJ, covered sex.

Liosion. Near Exikiou st. This is the secret extension of Filis st. 20 for 10 minutes. Uncovered BBBJ, covered sex. Nicer studios, 20 for 10 minutes. But still only Also a lot of ugly, old, fat ladies. Don't spend money there. Knock on many doors. There are skinny beautiful Russian girls there, 22-24 yrs old.

Studios. I avoided them as I thjought thehy were all 50-100, but some like on Liosion are 20. Where else did you find that is great?[/QUOTE]Could you please let me know where exactly was that 20 euro how long in that Liosion studio?

[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2848177]1.) Am curious myself about the current state of things. Any boots on the ground with current Athens intel please step up?[/QUOTE]Airlines are tossing out Euro Flight sales, Athens included but wanting to know if Athens hobby scene rebounded.

How are things first week in January? Are places open?

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2862137]Could you please let me know where exactly was that 20 euro how long in that Liosion studio?[/QUOTE]

Reread. Go back to page 15 and move forward.

It is is around Vitoria Station in METAXourgeio and Filis, Kolonou.

Spent an evening with Nastya from glamour escorts. Incall at her place, a little weird she wanted to evaluate my karma. She's a little more Russian looking than her photos. DATY, FIV, OWO, 69, Miss, Doggy were all great, not a good cowgirl. Went for a couple rounds, 320 for two hours.

Hi all!

First of all, thank you very much to everyone that contributed! Had a great trip to Athens last October, and tons of fun around Fillis and Metaxourgeio areas. Beautiful girls and lots of good and cheap sex.

Note, it wasn't GFE by any means. I wasn't looking for GFE on this trip, I just wanted wam-bam-thank-you-mam type of experience with pretty girls and cheap. If you want GFE, you probably need to use escort web sites and / or studios.

For research I went back 10 years and read all posts. I took a few hours. Most posts you can just skip over, but there were some real gems there. I got all the info I needed from those posts. As additional research I also googled some "normal" web sites for articles on prostitution in Athens. Funnily enough, the articles actually had very useful info for the hobby and even maps of the Metaxourgeio and Fillis areas with the most brothel concentration. Here's a good article with a map.

I had a link in here but removed it, doesn't sound like I'm allowed to post them? Just Google "prostitution in Athens", and read first 10 articles.

Other than that, I just read many many posts. Here's the key info I got from the posts.

1. Brothels and legal and there are lots of them. If you go to the areas on the map from the article, look for white (not red, but white) lights by the doors. If the light is on and the door is unlocked, the brothel is open.

2. Brothels are open as early as 11 am. Haven't tried before then. Not sure when they close, but at least not before mightnight. Different ones will have different hours, some are open longer than others.

2. Pricing. Unbelievable. 10 Euro for 10 minutes in Metaxourgeio area and 20 Euro for 10 minutes in Fillis area. Slightly higher concentration of hot girls in Fillis area, but you can find some lookers in Metaxurgio as well. I am not sure how much it is for longer than that. I don't speak great, and for the most of this visit I pretended to understand it. If you speak great, you are golden.

3. Girls quality. A few people mentioned absolute truth. They will be lots of old, ugly, strungout looking girls. Simply skip them. There are many beautiful eastern european girls (my preference). Didn't see any asian girls, but saw a few black ones if that's what you like. If you hear madam (mama?) say "chocolate", she is probably introducing a black girl. Many czech, bulgarian, ablanian, ukranian, russian girls. I haven't met a single greek girl on the entire visit. I met a beautiful greek girl two years ago in Amsterdam, but she was a bit of a rip off, and while gorgeous was a bad experience for me. Not to judge all other girls by that one, but anyway, for those of you that say "I didn't come all this way to fuck a Russian, I want a greek girl" - maybe that's not for you. I don't care as long as the girl is pretty. I like petite athletic blondes, spinners. They are mostly eastern european.

4. Safety. I haven't seen anything dangerous or rip-off-like the entire trip (a couple of weeks). Felt very safe, even though the building look like crumbling world war II ruins sometimes. Owners seem honest, and seem to keep girls honest.

5. Tourist-friendly? So this one is a bigge. I read many posts that said some places won't allow foreigners or tourists. I read that some have "greek only" sign on the door. I have NOT seen it in one single place I went into. Not once, not in one single place. I'm not questioning accuracy of information other punters shared, just that I personally never saw it, and I went through a few dozen places. Initially I was following advice of one poster on here that described simpy smiling and nodding their head or just not speaking at staring, or shrugging, all like you understand. In the room I would speak English to the girls, and they would say "Tourista? Good for you!" without any issues. That worked fine the first few days. Towards the end of my visit I relaxed and simply spoke English even to the madam (mama / papa / whatever). They smiled and said "you don'ta speak it? It's ok! They knew I was a tourist and were fine with it.

6. Racism? I am white, so I can't tell you if there is racism. Possibly people that got rejected were rejected because of that. I could pass for a greek maybe, or just any white guy. I'm neither young nor beatiful, but I am not 80 or horribly ugly. I tried to be as clean as I could be (it's hot in Athens even in October, and you will sweat a lot, and no showers). So maybe people that got rejected with "greek only", maybe you were descriminated against, and if you were. I am sorry. Or maybe I was there during slower time when they wanted all the business they wanted. I can't tell you. I was never refused service. I only saw one greek refused service once. He may have been homeless and had only coins instead of 10 Euro in Metaxourgeio. He tried giving coins to Mama, she took them, looked at them, and handed them back and told him something dismissive / indignent. He had to leave. Also saw them refuse service to a couple of boys that looked a bit on the yonger side. Mama just looked at them and told them to leave (I assume). They laughed and went down the line to the next brothel. Not sure if they got service elsewhere.

7. Procedure. This was some of the most important tips I got on the forum. Most of this places have the same procedure. As I mentioned, you walk down the street looking for places with white light that's on. The door should be unlocked. Sometimes there will be cloth around the door tied to door hanled on both side so the lock doesn't lutch. If the light is on and door is open, just walk in. Don't knock. After you walk in, you should be in a "waiting room". Sometimes you have to go upstairs or downstaris. That will be obvious enough. You will walk in and see stairs. Anyway, waiting room will have a few chairs or small couches, maybe some mirrors, maybe a pole in the middle. Might look almost like a small strip club stage room (not elevated stage, just the floor with a pole). There may be other guys already waiting, maybe not. Even if there are a few guys waiting, don't get discouraged. Most are "shopping around" first, and everyone has different tastes. Even if there is only one girl working (often the case), many guys will look at her and leave. Even if she's hot! Maybe she's not hot for them. Maybe they are chubby chasers, or want "chocolate", or something else. Who knows. Anyway, the room may also be completely empty. That's still fine, maybe even better. Doesn't mean the girl is ugly. Just sit down and wait. Madam / mama (or papa, saw a few guys working those jobs) will come out and will do a little speach in Greek telling you about the girl, services and prices. Prices everywhere in Metaxourgeio are 10 Euro for 10 minutes, or 20 Euro for 10 minutes on Fillis. Just remember that. Or learn some greek numbers. I had zero greek. I did OK. Anyway, mama will also tell you if the girl does anal or only normal sex. I think normal, vaginal-only sex is "normal programa". I don't know how they say "anal sex", if someone knows, please share. Anyway, after the mama's speach, the girl will come out in her underwear (sometimes just panties, sometimes panties and bra) and will say "Yassas", which is basically Hello,. And smile. Some are cheery and friendly, some a bit burnt out. I didn't see any that seemed like they were exploited or trafficed. During their "breaks" many play on their phones and shoot shit with mamas, laughing, etc. For those guys that think all those girls are trafficed and made work, I call bullshit. I didn't see anything resembling that. Not anyone beaten, or drugged out, or desperate looking. Some did look a bit tired, but not often. Anyway, after the into and the girl coming out, that's your cue to stay or leave. Most guys will always get up and leave. It's a rarity if more than a couple people stay. If you want to stay, just get up and look at Mama, maybe nod. That's what I've done. She will point you to a room. Mama / papa will come in, just hand them the money as I described. If you speak greek or want other services, give them whatever. I always went for the minimum service, 10 minutes, so I just gave them 10 or 20 euro depending on the area. Anwyay, there are typically 2-3 rooms. They are decent enough, with a bed and a sink. All that I've been to have a sink with running water. None had showers. You can clean you johnson and wash your hands, that's about it. I may have taken a piss in one of them because I needed to. You will typically have 5-10 minutes before the girl comes in. That's you time to undress and clean up! Do undress and lay on the bed naked. Don't wait for the girl to come in to start undressing, it's not that kind of place. Now, for the groass part. They don't change the sheets between guys as far as I can tell. So do take a shower when you get to your hotel. Maybe have a drink before going to one of these places, LOL. Anyway, after 5-10 minutes the girl will come in. Most are friendly and pleasant and will speak a few words of English, and a few words of Greek. Most are not fluent in either. All of the ones I've seen were eastern european beauties. The ones I went with were between 7/10 to 10/10 for me. Yes, for 10 or 20 euros only! You can find them, just go to a few places. I repeated with several. Anyway, the girl will come in and will get to the business. I've always gotten half & half, a few minutes of CBJ (most did good to excellent) and then sex in 1-2 positions (typically just one in 10 minutes). I never got BBBJ, nor did I ask for one. Never got BB sex, nor did I ask for it. Most blow jobs and sex were very good, with girls being engaged and trying to act for you a little without being overly fake. All looked and smelled clean (surpringly). They do take a few minutes to clean themselves up between guys. I am an easy guy to please whe the girl is pretty, so 10 minutes of non-stop BJ and sex is more than enough for me with a pretty girl. There is no time wasted in these appointments. Afterwords, while I am cleaning myself up and getting dressed, I would just with girls a bit, and most were friendly and would talk to you in limited English. One Albanian girl was actually really sweet, almost GFE. I think if I got to see her again maybe I would've tried for longer time with her and tried for more of a GFE session. She actually laid in bed with be afterwards, cuddling for a minutes, and chatted and we laughed about a couple of things while trying to communicate. There was only one Bulgraian girl I met that was a bit of a rip off. She kept stopping during the session just hugging me. Then when 10 minutes were up (not sure how she knew) she just stopped and laid on the bed without moving and said "that's it, we are done". She was cute, and I did get to fuck her, but she was definitely not the best experience in terms of behavior. That was the only time I didn't come in during the session. It was only 10 euro though, so having fucked a cute girl for 10 euro, I couldn't be too upset. I wouldn't repeat with her only because there was so much choice.

8. Places. There are many dozens (probably hundreds) of these places in those two areas. In Fillis area obviously Fillis is the main concentration, but there are some on side streets as well. I found best looking girls directly on Fillis, but it doesn't mean it's always the case. In Metaxourgeio area the main concentration is on Iasonos (if I remember right, pretty sure that's the one, look at the maps I linked). I think Iasonos 30/32 was the place with cute girls there, and also on the corner of Iassonos and Leonidou. Remember the places where the cutest girls are. If you like the girl and the service, simply ask her when she works. Most work every day. Many places own two or three "doors" next to each other. One will be on the first floor, the other on the second floor (up the stairs). Sometimes the girl will tell you "I will be upstairs tomorrow next door" or "downstairs". If you want to see her, just literally try the door next to the one you went to and go where she told you. Upstairs or downstaris. Also most places that had cute girl one day will have cute girl (even if different) next day. I found that not all places are equal. Some had only ugly girls, some had mostly pretty (though not always) girls. So if you find a place that has cute girls, stick with them. On Fillis I found one place, I think it might've been number 65? That has many lights by the doors. I think someone on the forum mentioned it. There are two doors, and both have big fancy white lights, lantern looking, not round white ones (all white lights are brothels, at least in brothel area, but they don't all look exactly the same). Also I found Albanian GFE girl on Fillis but that place was not open every other time I tried to find her agan. I don't have specific nubmers for you other than what I described. Also obviously the girls are not permanent. Ownership can also change. Just go to as many of these places as you can stand and see the intro. If you don't like the girl, walk out without saying a word. It seems very rude (probably is) but that's what everyone else does. They all are used to it (not sure if it's still hurting their feelings or not).

9. Girls. Like I said, I wasn't hoping for a GFE type experience, just good quicky sex. My worst experience with a cute Bulgarian blonde on Iasonos (number 30 I think). Saw her twice actually. First time she was about to leave, the owner told me no "I guess". He saw I didn't understand, so he said "sorry, sorry", and smiled. Then went back and I guess talked her into staying for me? She came out again, took me back for a super-quicky. Sucked my dick for a few seconds, got into doggy and told me "come on, good sex". Haha, she was hot so I pounded her and came. She wasn't unfriendly, just super-rushed. When I walked out, she was also getting dressed into street clothes and ready to leave herself. I tried her one more time, and that was when she kept stopping and holding me without doing anything, obviously trying to stretch out the time. Don't take me wrong, and still got blowjob and sex from a hot chick, she just made sure I didn't finish. It's all good though, it's really not bad as far as bad experiences go. It cost only 10 euro each time. My best experiences were in that place with many lights on Fillis. One girl was Czech Christina. Beatiful young spinner with natural body, and friendly too boot. Came out without top on, said "Hi baby, lets go have fun", kissed me on the cheek. I was sold. Saw her three times. Not GFE but very friendly and good sex every time. Also saw a couple of other hot eastern european there, don't remember their names. One was a bit cold in personality and a bit rushed, but very pretty in looks. Did her job, I didn't have a problem finishing with her, but probably wouldn't repeat. One was also eastern european, Playboy bunny-hot, very sweet. Very nice unrushed service. She was so pretty and felt so good, was close to the best experience. That was all on Fillis. As far as Metaxourgeio goes, there were slimmer pickings. I found two places that had cute girls (one in the middle of the Iasonos, I think numbers 30/32, one at the end a few steps down into shallow basement). First place had that Bulgarian girl that was mixed experience, and cute Albanian spinner with nice boobies. Albanian was very friendly and good service. The place at the end of Iasonos had super hot tiny Bulgarian girl, Natalie (still remember her name). Saw her 4 times. Good service every time. Very nice BJ and then very nice CG. She could've been a swimesuite model, though on the skinny side. Very fit and pretty. Smiling, friendly, always in a good mood. Just thinking about her puts a smile on my face. Spoke a few works of English only.

10. Other thoughts. Anyway, I think many of you guys are not into this type of quicky thing, so maybe this scene is not for you. I was not looking for a relationship or expecting GFE, I just wanted to fuck smoking hot girls for cheap. Athens blew my socks off. I read that you can find young pretty girl that will do FS for 10 or 20 euro and couldn't believe it. Fortunately it's 100% true. Athens is my favorite hobby city now. There are many other places I want to try, but I will definitely be back to Athens. I'm even learning Greek (the language, not the sex, LOL) just for that. I was fucking 2-3 beautiful and friendly women every single day, and that's between actually doing quite a bit of sightseeing. I even went on a cruise while I was there. I wasn't there to hobby full time, but to see Athens and Greece, and to fuck beautiful women as I had time. It couldn't have worked out better than it did for me.

11. Where to stay. I didn't bring any of the girls to my hotel in case if it's not clear. I find that Omonia square (hated by most) is the most convinient place as there is a subway station right there. You could even walk from there either to Fillis, or Iasonos (Metaxourgeio). But subway is just 1 stop, and you can get unlimited subway ticket for 11 euro for 1 week. That's crazy cheap. To get to Metaxourgeio take subway to Metaxourgeio station (that's the name of the station), get out, you will be in a huge traffic circle with a statue in the middle. Spot a bit Wyndham Grand hotel. Go around the traffic circle to the hotel, and you will find the brothel area immediately behind the hotel (I guess you could even stay right there, but you would be a bit further away from Fillis). To to go Fillis area you can just take subway to Victoria station, go up, and then walk west towards Fillis. Then go north on Fillis. You will be in the high concentation area right there. My favorite place is just a couple of blocks north on the west side of the street (the one with many lantern looking white lights by the two doors). I went to quite a few other places but liked girls only in two other ones and only 1-2 times. Most of the time I just came back to the same "many-lantern" place (maybe #65?) and saw either Czech Christina or the othe two girls I already described. All were hot, all were eastern european. They had a black girl a couple of times that looked OK but not as hot as eastern earopean chicks (for me at least, if you like black girls you could obviously meet one of those as well). I don't know exactly the boundaries of the areas, but it seems the maps I linked to are good enough.

12. Legality. All of these places were legal as far as I know. Prositution is legal in Greece, so I was not breaking any laws. I think someone said the places are allowed to have 1 girl only, and most had only 1 girl working. I think 2 places had 2 girls, but most had only 1 at a time. I didn't ask them to see their "prostitute registration card" which I think they are supposed to have, LOL.

13. Street girls. Didn't look for or saw any street girls. It's not my thing, and why when you can get a girl inside of a brothel for cheaper and it's safer?

14. Studios. I went to the street that's supposed to have all the studios, Kassandras. See an actual photo in NY Times article. Sounds like I can't.

Post a link? There is actually street address you can see on the building - 3 Kassandras. I read there were a few studios there. Went probably too early, around 1 pm. Location is not convinient to the subway. All studios were closed. Tried rining doorbeel on a couple of them, no response. The ones I saw were within a block or two of each other, like a cluster of them. Supposedly more expensive, like 50 to 100 euros and GFE experience from what I've read, and hotter girls. I tried it once and couldn't be bothered. I could fuck friendly hot women for 10 euro or 20 euro. Why the fuck would I go somewhere where the selection is much worse (at least in terms of quantities, I saw just 3-4 studios I think), prices are supposed to be higher, and availability / hours are worse? I had plans for my evenings and did hobbying in the middle of the day or in-between doing things. So studios didn't work out for me. I hope they work better for you guys.

15. Strip clubs. Haven't been to any of them in Athens. Why would I? From what I've read, takeout is possible but ripoffs are very common. Comletely unnecessary for Athens. If I really wanted a hot chick in my room, I'm sure one of the hotties I've already been with on Fillis would've come to my room and spent a couple hours with me for 100 euro, probably providing GFE. It's just a guess. But considering the money they make during their shift, I can't imagine being turned down. I wasn't looking for that on this trip.

16. Sightseeing. I'm not going to describe my general sightseeing, or restaurants, or money exchange, or whatever. There are millions of other sites for that. It's europe, it seems pretty safe, they use euro, there are plenty of ATMs. The only thing that can be a bit different is getting small bills. ATMs all give 50 euro notes, but you need 10's or 20's. You can break them in the newsstands, but they all start bitching about it - "don't you have coins? Don't you have coins?" - no, ATMs give only 50's, sorry. Never tried to get a change at one of the brothels, I just gave them exact amounts.

I will say (without going into details) it's a beautiful city with may great things to see and do outside of the hobby. The food is good. The hotels and restaurants are cheap compared to most europe. It's a great place to come for a vaction even without a hobby, but dozens of brothels make hobby very very convinient.

P.S. Transvestites. Someone mentioned that basements seem to be for transvestites. It's not exactly true, I've been two very hot girls (and yes, I'm sure they were girls, LOL) in basements. But there was this one basement. The door as locked, and the light way purple (I think). It was on Fillis. I knocked. Some woman came to the door and asked me something. I smiled and nodded my head. I didn't fool her fortunately. She read right through my act and knew I had no clue what she said. She said in English "Trans! Trans! You sure you want trans? You don't want trans". OK, she was right, thank god I didn't go in. So be careful. Better yet, don't be a shmuck like me and learn some greek.

[QUOTE=Csnow;2884983]...Here's the key info...[/QUOTE]You are a scholar and a gentleman for sharing this information. It's a veritable goldmine. How do you think the ladies or the mama / papa would react to me handing over three 10-Euro or 20-Euro bills and asking for "thirty minutes"? Or handing over a little more and asking for "thirty minutes plus anal"? I was never able to get erect, have sex and cum all within 10 minutes of meeting a new lady - 30 minutes is the shortest I could ever work with.

Is that where going to a Studio is better, perhaps?

[QUOTE=Wikman;2885829]You are a scholar and a gentleman for sharing this information. It's a veritable goldmine. How do you think the ladies or the mama / papa would react to me handing over three 10-Euro or 20-Euro bills and asking for "thirty minutes"? Or handing over a little more and asking for "thirty minutes plus anal"? I was never able to get erect, have sex and cum all within 10 minutes of meeting a new lady - 30 minutes is the shortest I could ever work with.

Is that where going to a Studio is better, perhaps?[/QUOTE]I honestly don't know as I never went beyond 10 minutes. There is a post from Sad Old Guy that said 30 minutes on Fillis is 60 Euro. I would imagine you have to let mama / papa know how long as they are the ones timing you and collecting money. As far as services go, I'd probably negotiate with the girl directly. I would learn key phrases from Google translate and have both Greek and eastern european languages ready. As far as anal goes, typically mama announces if it's included.

You can certainly try to speak English and risk getting kicked out, though getting kicked out is not very likely from my experience.

Sorry can't help more as I haven't tried it.

Viagra will help with getting hard quickly, but getting done in 10 minutes might be harder. Girls will give you hand release if they see you are having trouble. For me it's mostly girls attitude that makes it hard to finish once in a great while, and in that case extra time doesn't help me.

Doubling or tripling the time by doubling or tripling the amount should always be possible (I have heard the lady of the house telling that there was a customer in for an hour, all just depends on the money).

If they aren't offering anal (=full sex) for the first 10 minutes, most likely they will not be offering for half an hour either.