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[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2849392]An investor with $5 M US with no real investment strategy other than a desire to live in Indonesia forever. What could possibly go wrong?

OS thinks probably smarter to find one of the thousands of Janda's that just want a husband that treats them nicely, doesn't drink and beat them, gives them a small allowance each month and provides a home and a motorcycle. You wouldn't even need to live with her. Just give her a signed portrait of yourself to put on the wall for the neighbours to see and bingo!. That can probably be all achieved for USD $50 K. Then you get a KITAS convertible to KITAP after 2 years and permanence after a few more years even if your janda has woken up to your philandering ways and punted you. Minus the motorcycle of course.[/QUOTE]It appears to me Indonesia is always a day late and Dollar short. Meaning, Thailand and Malaysia introduced new Visa progams some time ago. Thailand's program was a success and they are now planning to raise the bar to obtain the long term Visa. Malaysia's program is the Malaysia My Second Home (MM2H). The MM2H was big hit with Expats. However, last year the Government revised the requirements. One of the new requirements is USD 10,000 in monthly income. Not surprisingly, the MM2H Applications have falled to an all time low. The rumour is the MM2H will be revised again based on complaints and criticism from Malaysian Real Estate Associations (one of the requirements is to invest in property worth MYR 1 Million).

OS, you bring up a good point about Janda's. I assume you have to "Register" the marriage and obtain a formal certificate to apply for the KITAS?

~BKKguru

[QUOTE=BKKguru;2849785]It appears to me Indonesia is always a day late and Dollar short. Meaning, Thailand and Malaysia introduced new Visa progams some time ago. Thailand's program was a success and they are now planning to raise the bar to obtain the long term Visa. Malaysia's program is the Malaysia My Second Home (MM2H). The MM2H was big hit with Expats. However, last year the Government revised the requirements. One of the new requirements is USD 10,000 in monthly income. Not surprisingly, the MM2H Applications have falled to an all time low. The rumour is the MM2H will be revised again based on complaints and criticism from Malaysian Real Estate Associations (one of the requirements is to invest in property worth MYR 1 Million).

OS, you bring up a good point about Janda's. I assume you have to "Register" the marriage and obtain a formal certificate to apply for the KITAS?

~BKKguru[/QUOTE]Correct! You would need to be able to marry. Theres a whole range of info on the subject online but a certificate of no impediment to marriage from your embassy or the equivalent from a certain street in Manila.

Who would have guessed?

Sam Altman (Co-Founder & CEO, ChatGPT) is the first to get the Indonesian Golden Visa!

I had no idea Sam was into Indo girls. Don't be surprised if you see Sam in Classic or Emporium! LOL!!

On a serious note, it appears the Indonesian Government gifted the Golden Visa to Sam to create a marketing buzz. Details pasted below.


Jakarta (Bloomberg):

OpenAI Chief Executive Officer Sam Altman (pic) is the first person to get an Indonesian golden visa as South-east Asia's largest economy seeks to draw foreign investors.

The country's immigration authority issued a 10-year visa for Altman as he "has an international reputation and may bring benefits to Indonesia," said Immigration Director General Silmy Karim in a statement.

The co-founder of the ChatGPT creator would enjoy priority security screening at airports, longer stay periods and easier entry and exit processes, among other perks.

Introduced last week to boost economic development, the new visa allows foreigners who make substantial investments in the country to remain for between five and 10 years.

For example, an individual who invests US $350,000 into shares of local public companies, savings accounts or government bonds is eligible for a five-year stay.

It was not immediately known whether Altman, who visited Jakarta in June to speak on artificial intelligence, applied for the visa or has plans to invest in Indonesia.

Since their debut last year, OpenAI's tools have spurred a rush of investment into AI-supporting infrastructure by showcasing the potential of human-like intelligence using vast data centers.

Do you use your left hand with the girls?

The left hand is considered like "unclean" because it's use for toilet. And when I interact with Indonesian I don't use this hand.

But with the girls, my brain disconnect, and I don't care about that, but this year, I will try to have a real girlfriend, and keep her.

What are your experiences about that?

Hello,

I am new to the Indonesia forum, but not new to ISG. I travel to Taiwan, China and Thailand frequently for work. However, I recently got a new client in Indonesia in the area around Gorontalo. I was hoping to get some advice.

1. is there any FUN to be had around the Gorontalo area?

2. From my understanding there is a NO sex law in affect in Indonesia for unmarried people. How enforced is this?

Thank you everyone!

[QUOTE=Knobbyxx;2886923]Hello,


2. From my understanding there is a NO sex law in affect in Indonesia for unmarried people. How enforced is this?

Thank you everyone![/QUOTE]The law is not yet in effect. It's also not that bad due to 2 facts:

1. it stipulates, that it is only a crime if a family member if filing a complaint at a court. Only at that time the police will investigate the incident. Catching unmarried people in the act on part of the police is not grounds for prosecution. Ironically that means sleeping with girls that you know from work or in your circle of friends is more risky than paying a prostitute (the latter doesn't know your identity and the parents don't know you).

2. it's Indonesia. A lot of laws are enforced very flexibly. Except capital crimes such as homicide or drug trade. Generally laws against "social disturbances" are more strictly enforced in provincial small towns. And paying bribes to prosecutors is depressingly common, if you can afford it. A poor girl can't pay a 10 million bribe to walk free. That 5 times her monthly income. A business man from Bandung can. That's 10% of monthly income.

[QUOTE=Bacchuss;2873724]Do you use your left hand with the girls?

The left hand is considered like "unclean" because it's use for toilet. And when I interact with Indonesian I don't use this hand.

But with the girls, my brain disconnect, and I don't care about that, but this year, I will try to have a real girlfriend, and keep her.

What are your experiences about that?[/QUOTE]Perfect then to use your left hand then to loosen up her backdoor.

I'm considering moving to Jakarta for a year or so. Due to my age, I will need a good health insurance. A travel insurance will cost me 400 euros a month. So maybe you residents can tell me how much you pay for one person so I will be able to decide which one (travel or local one) to choose. I'll need a price and no link to Cigna or AXA etc. My age: 77 years. Thanks.

How's the food around the Classic Hotel area especially in regards to local cuisine?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2923923]How's the food around the Classic Hotel area especially in regards to local cuisine?[/QUOTE]Some local restaurants and lots of food stalls along Percenogan if you want Indo cuisine. If you want Western Jonisteak a few doors down from Classic is your best bet. There's a Domino's Pizza across the street from Classic. There's Holycow! Nearby if you want a pretty decent steak for pretty cheap. Most nearby restaurants except Jonisteak close at 10 pm.

There is a transit station called Sawar Besar near Classic Hotel. Does any know if the train from this station can get me to the Kota Tua and Chinatown areas a bit north as well as the National Monument to the south? I figure these are the prime areas I'll have time to check out during the full day I'm in the city.

For my partial day near the airport, I thought that I would check out Pik2 - probably need to get a Grab.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2924202]There is a transit station called Sawar Besar near Classic Hotel. Does any know if the train from this station can get me to the Kota Tua and Chinatown areas a bit north as well as the National Monument to the south? I figure these are the prime areas I'll have time to check out during the full day I'm in the city.

For my partial day near the airport, I thought that I would check out Pik2 - probably need to get a Grab.[/QUOTE]Ya Mister.

You can follow the train line on there and pick out the stations. The one name Kota Tua might be a dead giveaway for one destination, the Gambir one a few stops south is the Monas one. And also the main station for catching trains to Bandung etc. Which is my only experience with trains in Jakarta apart from the MRT up and down Surdiman / Fatmawati. Local trains might be an adventure. Or not.

P.S. You might want to consider what is close to the Mangga Besar station. And the locations of pretty much all the places mentioned in the Jakarta thread (on googlemaps) for walking distance from said train line. Also contemplate what 'walking distance' is to you, and over what. Short walks in Jakarta can resemble obstacle courses on Marine training grounds, complete with friendly fire courtesy of the maniac bikes.

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;2924225] Which is my only experience with trains in Jakarta apart from the MRT up and down Surdiman / Fatmawati. Local trains might be an adventure. Or not.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for your input. I guess the MRT line is nowhere near Classic Hotel right? So if I'm staying at Classic Hotel, there's probably no reason for me to even use the MRT given that the Sawar Besar station train goes right up to Kota Tua and to Monas depending on direction unless there are other interesting attractions that are worthwhile for me to get to with the MRT and if I have enough time there. Shame since I see the MRT is actually quite nice there.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2924231] I guess the MRT line is nowhere near Classic Hotel right? [/QUOTE]No.

BTW getting a Grab as compared to all of this will likely be a) quicker and b) easier. Maybe even cheaper after sorting out how to pay for the train, and getting to the trains. See previous comment about walking around.

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;2924245]No.

BTW getting a Grab as compared to all of this will likely be a) quicker and b) easier. Maybe even cheaper after sorting out how to pay for the train, and getting to the trains. See previous comment about walking around.[/QUOTE]Use this app called Gojek to order a motorcycle taxi and pay cash option. It is the cheapest and easiest way to get there.