Jakarta

DJTan,

Thank you for the info about SA. I would love to creampie a flight attendant soon. Been to Jakarta only once but had a great time with Tinder and Tan Tan app.

But please advise - $300.00 USD a Day? Good lord! I think you are way over-paying. Hope you recieve this as a respectful comment and not a flame because I appreciate everyone's valuable info.

[QUOTE=KopiHitam;2741807]Bought some from the street carts at Mangga Besar last weekend. Opening price for a bottle of 10 Cialis was 300 rb. We settled on 160 rb. Given I only take 1/2 tablet at a time, Rp8,000/ session is not a bad deal.[/QUOTE]I didn't have a chance to venture near Classic though it wasn't so far away from where I was heading. Stupid move on my part really. Part of my hesitation was that I didn't want to be the 0. 1% of people taking that stuff and get a heart attack in a place like KI or Kelapa Gading as an expatriate in Indonesia.

I spent most of my time in KI and Kelapa Gading, so as you can imagine, it would have been easy for me to pull over and ask Bluebird to wait for me a few minutes while I negotiate with 99 for some dick hardening medicine.

Why the stupid move on my part? Well, on a few of the nights, I thought I was back in my prime again and tried to bang out three girls back to back. Stupid because the little guy stopped working about 3/4 of the way through the second session. Do I get credit for not quitting?

There were several nights like this, and some of them worked out ok. I was pleasantly surprised that I could do 3 BBFSCIP runs within 24 hours, and no pill.

[QUOTE=Mgp23;2734840]I tried JW last month. Massage price is around 500++ and I tipped the girl 200 for the extra.

Pretty decent massage, the girl was a 7/10 around late 30's I'd say, nice HJ and allowed me to undo her bra and touch. No rush and ok attitude. Wouldn't go again because of the price.[/QUOTE]I noticed that the hotels (ranging from decent to mega nice) have a consistent Modus Oparandi. If the Spa has an official location staffed relatively internally (and you usually get loyalty discounts), then you're not getting any extra services.

If the hotel doesn't have a special SPA and is outserviced by a company using modified hotel rooms as their SPA, then you're going to get asked if you want a special massage, also full service is on the table too, but ridiculous pricing. Those third party spas don't offer discounts for loyalty members.

The pricing for the massage is about 350 k for one hour. They'll ask for 500 k for a HJ, but will likely give you a HJ for 300 k. Full is about 1. 2 M, but somehow they'll upcharge you to 1. 5 M especially if you switch from CFS to BBFS. My session, the girl was easily late 20's, face was 8, body was 6 (chubby, could lose 10 to 15 kg), A 6 (she was a mercenary), S 6 (short BBBJ, allowed BBFS for an upcharge, non-rushed), E 350 k+1. 5 M 60 minutes total, RR no, no though she was pretty in the face).

I did it because I wanted to find out if it was available and I ran the numbers compared to USA Pricing. Basically, it was a steal for about $125. But compared to KI and KG, way out of touch expensive.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2742350]I didn't have a chance to venture near Classic though it wasn't so far away from where I was heading. Stupid move on my part really. Part of my hesitation was that I didn't want to be the 0. 1% of people taking that stuff and get a heart attack in a place like KI or Kelapa Gading as an expatriate in Indonesia.
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There were several nights like this, and some of them worked out ok. I was pleasantly surprised that I could do 3 BBFSCIP runs within 24 hours, and no pill.[/QUOTE]3 BBFSCIP in 24 hours is impressive! Do you take any natural supplements like Honey or Maca? Any Vitamins?

I have been to Kelapa Gading many times. But never tried KI. Do you like any bar in KI?
Based on reports, the rooms in KI are dirty. The Girls in KI is a mixed bag. Is this correct?

Thanks,
~BKKguru.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2742313]
But please advise - $300.00 USD a Day? Good lord! I think you are way over-paying. Hope you recieve this as a respectful comment and not a flame because I appreciate everyone's valuable info.[/QUOTE]I very very often do, but I can't bite my tongue this time. That's not overpaying, that's just a mental illness. Nobody on earth needs to be given a month's wages for a portion of a single day. If you convert to the USA minimum wage, you've paid $1200. Which is TOTALLY FINE if it is a porn star someone has lusted over for years. I hope she was and we just weren't told that bit.

I used strong words but the point is not to offend the author, my motive is to convince other people to not participate in craziness. That's all.

Another topic. I recently went to Malio hotel twice. The upper floor is not open late and that's why I had two completely different experiences. The top floor is a bar with a live band and Mama's with lineups. If you pick on the low end of the range offered, it is 1. 2 million or so if I recall. It was worth every penny, but maybe just as a one time thrill. My first time in the city. The mama saw my friend is a real sucker, the type who'd pay $300. So she sprang a form on him and demanded he pick his tip level to her. 200,000 300,000 or 400,000. One reason it is not horrible is that you're seeing the girl you're going to get so if she don't look worth the cash just leave. But they're HOT.

Next day we went late so only the kind of strip club was open. I didn't have intel in advance about how it works so I got scared as hell when 6 9's followed me and sat down with me. I had images in my head of mafia guys leading me to an ATM and forcing me to pay 1000's USD. Don't worry guys. They just want you to buy lady drinks and will jet if you refuse. They demand exorbitant numbers of them, 5 drinks in one go to play with their tits. The girls are some of the hottest I've ever seen anywhere in 20 years mongering though, so I could be tempted to go upstairs one day. But it is way more costly than the straight mama san deal so I just wasted some cash on lady drinks and jetted. Too much good value to be had elsewhere in this amazing city, fuck it.

[QUOTE=BKKguru;2742509]3 BBFSCIP in 24 hours is impressive! Do you take any natural supplements like Honey or Maca? Any Vitamins?

I have been to Kelapa Gading many times. But never tried KI. Do you like any bar in KI?
Based on reports, the rooms in KI are dirty. The Girls in KI is a mixed bag. Is this correct?

Thanks,
~BKKguru.[/QUOTE]When I google Kepla Gading it highlights an area of NE Jakarta with lots of small side streets. Whereabouts do you find the action?

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2742673]When I google Kepla Gading it highlights an area of NE Jakarta with lots of small side streets. Whereabouts do you find the action?[/QUOTE]Looks on google maps for King Cross, MRT2, Delta spa, Sumo.

Indo is on my list. But I love a good, skilled strong massage. Is this a common thing?

[QUOTE=BKKguru;2742509]3 BBFSCIP in 24 hours is impressive! Do you take any natural supplements like Honey or Maca? Any Vitamins?

I have been to Kelapa Gading many times. But never tried KI. Do you like any bar in KI?
Based on reports, the rooms in KI are dirty. The Girls in KI is a mixed bag. Is this correct?

Thanks,
~BKKguru.[/QUOTE]Hey, don't get me wrong. When I hit 3 shots in 24 hours, I was pretty fucking amazed at myself. There just isn't very much good action in the USA When I'm unleashed in South East Asia, the energy is boundless. The girls think I'm handsome enough, and my USA Salary goes a hell of a long way. US $300 gets you shit in the states, and $30 gets you paradise in Jakarta. If that doesn't give you a boner, shit I don't know what will. When I'm in Indonesia, my philosophy is completely changed. Every orgasm is a gift, so I don't want to experience one that's a dud. Like a mere HJ. No, each org should be with a beauty. That's why I have no problem getting massages and when the gal offers and she's not a looker, I don't mind passing to save the jizz for the next beauty. That's actually more important to me.

I've had really incredible experiences in both KG and KI. In KI, I like all of the bars except for V-Four and the one that has the 750 k IDR girls. All the rest are great. 18 to 22 year olds galore, though most will have already had a kid and MMS will still lie about "no baby". I would say that 85% of my sessions there have been great pleasure. Young skinny cuties BBFS. 400 k + 300 k (I tip more for BBFS). Knock off 50 k if you show up early like before 5 PM or so. The rooms aren't great, but they were far from "Blitz Massage" gross. The small showers are covered with calcium and mold / mildew, the bed sheets look like they haven't been changed in a while, the lounge where you see the girls are filled with smoke and if you walk through the joint, you smell like an ashtray.

This last trip, KG was a mixed bag. If you find a 350 k girl, the cost is less and the room is much nicer. But there was a time when the 350 k girls were all busy, and the next level up was 600 k. I didn't see any particular improvement in quality. There's so many places to try at KG that it's just frustratingly overwhelming.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2742673]When I google Kepla Gading it highlights an area of NE Jakarta with lots of small side streets. Whereabouts do you find the action?[/QUOTE]Hello,

If you are going to KG for the first time, start with the Kings Cross Bar.
If you plan to return late at night (after 1 am) finding a Taxi on the street is hit and miss. Compared to the Mangga Besar area, KG is remote.

Ensure your phone is charged and you have the BlueBird Taxi App. See the Google Maps screen shot showing the Kelapa Gading complex. Good Luck!

~BKKguru

[QUOTE=BKKguru;2742942]Hello,

If you are going to KG for the first time, start with the Kings Cross Bar.
If you plan to return late at night (after 1 am) finding a Taxi on the street is hit and miss. Compared to the Mangga Besar area, KG is remote.

Ensure your phone is charged and you have the BlueBird Taxi App. See the Google Maps screen shot showing the Kelapa Gading complex. Good Luck!

~BKKguru[/QUOTE]Oh I might actually have some helpful information in this case.

When you come out of King Cross and you're facing Jl. Boulevard Bukit Gading Raya, turn left and start walking about 120 meters on that same Jl. to the short bridge that crosses over the flood river. On the other side of the flood river, which is also Jl. Boulevard Bukit Gading Raya, there's always one or two Bluebirds parked there ready to go. It seems to be the unspoken stopping point for picking up and taking home the late night horndogs in KG. Wkwkwk.

Either that, or keep your My Bluebird app handy. It's usually no longer than 7 minutes before a nearby Bluebird will show up. There are far too many malls nearby for this area to be depleted of waiting Bluebirds.

[QUOTE=DjTan;2741993]...she is law student in her 5th semester outside Jakarta, willing to travel on weekend to meet for the entire weekend as long I pay for train tickets. She is open for a trip to Bali if classes are online that week.

I like this setup, we've been chatting / calling for 3-wks, not even once she asks for money upfront. But, yes she expects money when we meet, she is happy with about $300/ night...[/QUOTE]I couldn't help but chuckle at your wording. I think it's safe to say that most Indonesian university / law school students are happy with "about $300 a night" as well as a free trip to Bali for the weekend.

In fact, most young Indonesian women would be happy with $300 a night, considering that that is more than the average monthly salary for most office and factory workers. Even less than that would be welcome - I'm sure the chance to sleep in a nice bed in a 5-star hotel with a nice bathroom for the night could be had for much less than $300.

An old story that's relevant here. I stayed at the old Hotel Indonesia in 1992 for a week for my job. One of my co-workers, who had visited Jakarta many times, took me down to the cafe / restaurant on the ground floor (left of the lobby) one night around 11 pm and the place was filled with attractive female university students drinking tea or a soft drink. He referred to them as "scholars" and said that all of them were available to be brought up to your room for the night for a reasonable amount of money (the equivalent of $20 - $25 US?). These girls did not want to be seen as working girls in any nightclub or bar but still needed to earn some money. My co-worker said that he rarely went out to a nightclub or massage parlor since he didn't need to. He had had such good luck with the scholars, said the experience was very GFE.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2743366]I couldn't help but chuckle at your wording. I think it's safe to say that most Indonesian university / law school students are happy with "about $300 a night" as well as a free trip to Bali for the weekend.

In fact, most young Indonesian women would be happy with $300 a night, considering that that is more than the average monthly salary for most office and factory workers. Even less than that would be welcome - I'm sure the chance to sleep in a nice bed in a 5-star hotel with a nice bathroom for the night could be had for much less than $300.

An old story that's relevant here. I stayed at the old Hotel Indonesia in 1992 for a week for my job. One of my co-workers, who had visited Jakarta many times, took me down to the cafe / restaurant on the ground floor (left of the lobby) one night around 11 pm and the place was filled with attractive female university students drinking tea or a soft drink. He referred to them as "scholars" and said that all of them were available to be brought up to your room for the night for a reasonable amount of money (the equivalent of $20 - $25 US?). These girls did not want to be seen as working girls in any nightclub or bar but still needed to earn some money. My co-worker said that he rarely went out to a nightclub or massage parlor since he didn't need to. He had had such good luck with the scholars, said the experience was very GFE.[/QUOTE]I chuckle too, 1992 price comparison to 2022. Sure.

I have the mean, why worry about me, not to mention I treat the experience like a journey not a destination, from courting, joke about sex all the way to the actual sex.

I am texting this girl everyday for 3-wks now and not even spend a dime on her yet; even called her 3 times on Telegram. She sent me a video of her in camisole, PG rated for now, the other day. If you need to brag about sleeping with girls at $25 a pop more power to you. I am just saying the hot girls on SA wants that rate, apparently they are not for you so be it. Just chill everyone. LOL.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2743366]

An old story that's relevant here. I stayed at the old Hotel Indonesia in 1992 for a week for my job. One of my co-workers, who had visited Jakarta many times, took me down to the cafe / restaurant on the ground floor (left of the lobby) one night around 11 pm and the place was filled with attractive female university students drinking tea or a soft drink. He referred to them as "scholars" and said that all of them were available to be brought up to your room for the night for a reasonable amount of money (the equivalent of $20 - $25 US?). These girls did not want to be seen as working girls in any nightclub or bar but still needed to earn some money. My co-worker said that he rarely went out to a nightclub or massage parlor since he didn't need to. He had had such good luck with the scholars, said the experience was very GFE.[/QUOTE]Interesting, any specific hotels nowadays to whom lobbys are full of these scholars?

[QUOTE=DjTan;2741993]I go to Jakarta for work once or twice a year before pandemic, and about to have another one in 3-wks for almost 2-mo stay.

Seeking Arrangement is my preferred media, I found university students, flight-attendant, office workers, even pros all the time there.

I am courting one right now, she is law student in her 5th semester outside Jakarta, willing to travel on weekend to meet for the entire weekend as long I pay for train tickets. She is open for trip to Bali if classes are online that week.

I like this setup, we've been chatting / calling for 3-wks, not even once she asks for money up front. But, yes she expects money when we meet, she is happy with about $300/ night.

BTW, plenty of girls at Seeking Arrangement are semi-pro / freelancers, the going rate seems to be 2-3 mil for 1-2 hour and 5 mil for overnight stay. The girls are all 8-9 in my book, not sure about services since I haven't partaken in PPM world. I like contract GF more, since I like DATY and BBBJ, as well as the pillow talk afterward.

I chat two flight-attendants on Telegram / Wahtsapp and very tempted to take them out and see how it goes but I feel more connection with this law student. It's like BF / GF, since we chat every day for hours.

Will report back in a month, hope it all works out, I don't want to pay Seeking Arrangement again until my next business trip.[/QUOTE]Used to be 3 million for LT pre-covid and even that is considered on the higher end of the scale. Their expectations have certainly increased significantly. I am planning for a trip to Jakarta in December and will be meeting the girl that I often used to bring along clubbing. Hopefully my old ppm rate with her stays that way, LOL.

I have also managed to chat with a few Jakarta girls on Seeking, but our chat would usually fall on the sideway and I don't think it will pick up again until the dates get closer. Just like you, I managed to connect with a flight attendant as well. I would be interested to see what your flight attendants would be quoting you.