American Politics

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2960649]Suing your political opponent into the ground in a victimless act and trying to take $450 million from him was Democrats being rational? If you have not heard Cane, let me enlighten you. Loretta James and her crew were damn near begging the judges on the appeals court not to write them up on sanctions for election interference.

As for the criminal case, if you think Trump is going to let that sit, you are out of your mind. With the House and Senate, Trump has carte blanche to investigate and jail all those involved in the criminal case that was blatant election interference. It is going to come out that this prosecution did not originate from a local district attorney but from the Biden White House.

Then you have the absolute insane jailings of Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon. Now you Democratic douches want to ignore Congressional subpoenas, you douches can go to jail. I don't like that but hey your extremist asses start it.

So add it all up, the censorship, the civil case, the criminal case, the absolute hypocrisy on presidential documents, jailing political opponents, and you assholes have engaged in such low life tactics that you would make third world banana republics blush. And then you have the assassination attempts and the complete incompetence of the secret service. Weren't you douches cheering those assassinations on?

And now we have the latest from FEMA. Yeah, homes with Trump signs were not going to get FEMA aid, and you are telling us we are extremists and due for a comeuppance? Go f yourself![/QUOTE]I see you totally ignored the subject of the post, which was acting like a sore loser once you've lost. Eff you too!

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2960267]Bloviator.[/QUOTE]Okay, but a [i]"Spineless"[/i], flip-flop artist and bothsider/neithersider guy?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2960185][b] Spineless aka Tiny[/b]

That is my best nickname for Tiny, who says Elvis is a "free thinker," well how much fact checking do you think Elvis does? You are a syrupy, nauseating insult to true intellectuals, who by definition test the claims. They don't just believe it when some big mouth YouTuber lays out his latest provocative and spurious argument. They don't just swallow Trump's millionth lie. They fact check. [/QUOTE]Yes indeed and quite right!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2959353]Yeah, right. Trump has gotten 74 million votes in the 2020 and 2024 elections. In this election, Kamala is at 69 million. Hiliary got 66 million, and Obama got 62 million in 2012. You see any statistical outliers because I sure as fuck do not.

And then there is Biden in 2020. How many votes did he get? 81.4 million!

You mean Harris lost because one in eight Democrats sat out 2024? Give me a fucking break! The pattern is you get 3 or 4 million more votes per election, but in 2020, Biden supposedly got 15 million more votes than Hiliary.

I do not know how anyone with a functioning brain can look at these numbers and not conclude there was MASSIVE cheating that went on in 2020.[/QUOTE]

Oh, please already, with the continual "Big Lie" conspiracy nonsense!

The 2024 election numbers are only now being finalized and the off-the-cuff, deranged, hair-brained conspiratorial logic, to defend the "Big Lie" begins.

First let's state the obvious, that despite the MAGA "Big Lies", countless lost court cases or MAGA "ninja forensics" election probes, there has never been any evidence that the 2020 elections, wasn't anything, but a free and fair election.

Second, if we take a moment and think rationally and dispassionately, about what the numbers between elections REALLY tell us, you'll see it's more about a poorer than expected Dems voter turnout and election voter suppression and disinformation, when compared with 2020.

• Harris: 72,350,352 (48.11%), Trump: 75,491,241 (50.2%), is only a difference of 3.1 million. Which indicates the country is still more or less a 50/50 split.
• Only 63% of eligible voters, bothered to showed up. Trump only had, just slightly more than 50% of those voters.
• This was NOT a high turnout election and turnout was lower for both candidates. But especially for Harris at only 31%, where Biden had 37% turnout.

• Repubs have gotten more aggressive and sophisticated, at voter suppression, voter list purges and voter intimidation.
• Repubs/Russian backed-interference, disinformation and 'swatting', were alarming. Notably in Dem urban Black and Brown voting communities.
• Reduced polling stations in urban communities and urban centers, forcing urban (largely Dem) voters to wait in untenable and longer 2-4hr lines, putting off voters.

• For the foreseeable future due the nature EC and today's handful of key swing states, it looks like all elections going forward are going to be senselessly close to 50/50, no matter how the rest of the country votes.

Third, enough already, with the 2020 election "big lie", conjuncture and conspiracies. Stick to the conspiracies you think you're good at, like COVID [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

But here, let me borrow from someone else's experience with another MAGA loony tunes, conspirator that was exposed, when confronted:

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2960185][b] Spineless aka Tiny[/b]
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It's like the Marquis de Twot, and this stupid moron I met here in Medellin in Sweet Georgia Cafe who said he was a Marine. Well that's exactly what they mostly want in the Marines is meat heads. But he was going on about how Biden got so many more votes than Kamala, as proof of a stolen 2020 election. Okay got it, so I asked the 80 IQ guy where he thought all the extra votes came from in 2020, and he of course said illegals. Then I asked his dumbfuck ass why these illegals, who are now greater in numbers, didn't steal the latest election. [b][u]He had no answer,[/u] so I guess he's only left with Jewish space lasers, or whatever hogwash Elvis can pull off the blogs. But that's free thought according to Spineless [/b][/QUOTE]

Yes, where were the "Jewish space lasers" this time, Elvis 2008? [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2959353]Yeah, right. Trump has gotten 74 million votes in the 2020 and 2024 elections. In this election, Kamala is at 69 million. Hiliary got 66 million, and Obama got 62 million in 2012. You see any statistical outliers because I sure as fuck do not.

And then there is Biden in 2020. How many votes did he get? 81.4 million!

You mean Harris lost because one in eight Democrats sat out 2024? Give me a fucking break! The pattern is you get 3 or 4 million more votes per election, but in 2020, Biden supposedly got 15 million more votes than Hiliary.

I do not know how anyone with a functioning brain can look at these numbers and not conclude there was MASSIVE cheating that went on in 2020.[/QUOTE]What is Funny is all the Cope over What's her name's Defeat. -- The Bright Side is that President Trump 2. 0 is 100 x + More Powerful Because they Stole 2020.

All the ScumBags have been revealed-- MAGA Bitches.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2959353]Yeah, right. Trump has gotten 74 million votes in the 2020 and 2024 elections. In this election, Kamala is at 69 million. Hiliary got 66 million, and Obama got 62 million in 2012. You see any statistical outliers because I sure as fuck do not.

And then there is Biden in 2020. How many votes did he get? 81.4 million!

You mean Harris lost because one in eight Democrats sat out 2024? Give me a fucking break! The pattern is you get 3 or 4 million more votes per election, but in 2020, Biden supposedly got 15 million more votes than Hiliary.

I do not know how anyone with a functioning brain can look at these numbers and not conclude there was MASSIVE cheating that went on in 2020.[/QUOTE]What is Funny is all the Cope over What's her name's Defeat. -- The Bright Side is that President Trump 2. 0 is 100 x + More Powerful Because they Stole 2020.

All the ScumBags have been revealed-- MAGA Bitches-- It's Beginning to Feel a Lot Like TrumpMas Everywhere You Go!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2960709][b]Oh, please already, with the continual "Big Lie" conspiracy nonsense![/b]

The 2024 election numbers are only now being finalized and the off-the-cuff, deranged, hair-brained conspiratorial logic, to defend the "Big Lie" begins.

First let's state the obvious, that despite the MAGA "Big Lies", countless lost court cases or MAGA "ninja forensics" election probes, there has never been any evidence that the 2020 elections, wasn't anything, but a free and fair election.

Second, if we take a moment and think rationally and dispassionately, about what the numbers between elections REALLY tell us, you'll see it's more about a poorer than expected Dems voter turnout and election voter suppression and disinformation, when compared with 2020.

Harris: 72,350,352 (48.11%), Trump: 75,491,241 (50.2%), is only a difference of 3.1 million. Which indicates the country is still more or less a 50/50 split.
Only 63% of eligible voters, bothered to showed up. Trump only had, just slightly more than 50% of those voters.
This was NOT a high turnout election and turnout was lower for both candidates. But especially for Harris at only 31%, where Biden had 37% turnout.

[b]Repubs have gotten more aggressive and sophisticated, at voter suppression, voter list purges and voter intimidation.
Repubs/Russian backed-interference, disinformation and 'swatting', were alarming. Notably in Dem urban Black and Brown voting communities.
Reduced polling stations in urban communities and urban centers, forcing urban (largely Dem) voters to wait in untenable and longer 2-4hr lines, putting off voters.[/b]

For the foreseeable future due the nature EC and today's handful of key swing states, it looks like all elections going forward are going to be senselessly close to 50/50, no matter how the rest of the country votes.

Third, enough already, with the 2020 election "big lie", conjuncture and conspiracies. Stick to the conspiracies you think you're good at, like COVID [i](...kkkk!)/i]

But here, let me borrow from someone else's experience with another MAGA loony tunes, conspirator that was exposed, when confronted:



Yes, where were the "Jewish space lasers" this time, Elvis 2008? [i](...kkkk!)[/i][/QUOTE]Take a Tiny Challenge Spidy. Please view the following links and tell us whether you believe the 2024 election was fair and square. Well, actually I guess you've already said it wasn't -- see bold text above.

Some links may not work as Elon Musk has been removing this stuff from the internet as fast as it pops up.

This wench Etherea is hot. If you're good at multi-tasking you can whack off while you're learning something about how politics really work in the USA.

[URL]https://x.com/hoofnmane/status/1856123969230848459[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/AesPolitics1/status/1855473656547209370[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/AnAct4Progress/status/1855482052885266734[/URL]

[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@etheria_963/photo/7436752615611829550[/URL]

[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@etheria77/photo/7436612390529060139[/URL]

[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@etheria77/video/7436386531838823726[/URL]

Even if Trump gets slapped back by horrified Senate Repubs and drops this nomination, the damage has been done!

[B]Trump picks Rep. Matt Gaetz as attorney general.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/13/trump-taps-rep-matt-gaetz-as-attorney-general.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Lololol. The Clown Trump-Musk Administration has now defined itself as such for all the world to see. No backing up and out of it now.

LOL. For one hot minute Little Marco and his supporters basked in the illusion that, hey, his nomination for Trump's Secretary of State could have been worse, it's kinda' sorta' plausible. Lolol.

Then the Tulsi Gabbard and that Fux News Weekend Host nominations came in.

And now THIS! LOL.

So now even poor Little Marco can only count himself among the Clown Trump Administration's Gallery of Freaks.

Honestly, proud MAGAs and Bothsider / Neithersider MAGAs, can you imagine Putin, Xi, Kim, name your favorite Anti-America, Anti-democratic Authoritarian, reacting to what is taking shape as the Clown Trump Freak and Clown Show with anything but total satisfaction and pleasure?

Of course not. Nobody could.

Kim Kardashian for Secretary of the Agriculture!

Rudy Giuliani for Secretary of the Treasury!

Lolol. Your overriding MAGA Repub mission to "own the libs" has resulted in only "owning" anyone the same way an arrogant fat man "owns" the passers-by who can not stifle their giggles when they see him slip on a banana peel and land smack on his fat, arrogant ass.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2959266][b]Wow![/b]
Democrats are sore losers. Republicans are bad winners. Good bad or indifferent; [B]the country will get what they voted for[/B].[/QUOTE]As long as you are on a mission to point out and post about election "sore losers", how they should just get over it and accept it already, have you by any chance noticed there are 2-3 frequent poster MAGA Repubs on this forum who are STILL butt-hurt sore, weeping, whining and rehashing their Party's clear, decisive and fully litigatated multiple times LOSS of the 2020 election?

MORE than 4 Long Years Later.

And, as of this writing, without a word of admonition from you about it in all these four long years plus (from what I recall, could be wrong, maybe I missed it).

Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2960640][U]Bitcoin[/U]
It is world wide. Traded 24/007/365. The holdings of the citizens and government of the United States of America is just a small part of the overall 1.72 Trillion market cap.

[B]Why do you think is only money from the citizens of the United States of America and their institutions that are driving the current crypto market pump[/B]?

I have asked you to provide data. You cannot. Because the flow of money into the crypto market is worldwide.

Now I am going to head you off at the pass. It is the [I]Trump Pump[/I] because the words and policies of Trump were known worldwide. So when he was elected that was positive rypto worldwide.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reminder.

[B]A most unusual recovery: How the US rebound from COVID differs from rest of G7[/B]

[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/articles/a-most-unusual-recovery-how-the-us-rebound-from-covid-differs-from-rest-of-g7/[/URL]

[QUOTE][B]Trade growth: strong demand for goods, supply constraints[/b]

While trade in some services particularly tourism came to a virtual standstill in 2020 and is only slowly recovering, trade in goods rebounded sharply after an initial decline, as demand for goods has been very strong.
Three key factors have shaped the dynamics of exports and imports across countries.

The first is the strength of domestic demand in the case of private consumption, driven primarily by household disposable income. The hefty size of fiscal stimulus in the United States in absolute terms and relative to other countries has played a key role in sustaining U.S. consumption [b]and imports.

In turn, the strength of U.S. demand has helped export growth in U.S. trading partners[/b], while the more subdued pace of domestic demand in U.S. trading partners is one factor holding back U.S. exports.

The second factor is the composition of economic activity pre-COVID countries where manufacturing is a more important share of GDP have [b]generally benefited from an increase in foreign demand,[/b] given the nature of the shock which has shifted spending from services to goods, while countries relying to an important extent on exports of services (think of tourism exports for countries such as Greece, Portugal, and Spain) have been hurt.

The third factor is supply constraints, which have affected goods production across the world. These have been triggered by a variety of factors, including reduced production and orders during the initial downturn, subsequent COVID-related shutdowns, [b]and the unexpectedly rapid rebound in demand.[/b] For instance, constraints in the availability of semiconductors have put a dent in global production of a variety of goods, such as autos, and affected exports in advanced economies, especially in the third quarter. Globally, firms facing supply bottlenecks accommodated strong demand by running down inventories, which are particularly low, and inflationary pressures increased across the globe, with soaring commodity prices and goods prices rising notably after a long period of stability.[/QUOTE]Yep. Bidenomics' early and massive jobs-directed and jobs-creating stimulus, not just a big dumb check sent out with a so-called president's stupid name on it, triggered a worldwide domino effect economic recovery from Trump's Pandemic's historic worldwide devastation.

Which was exactly the Consumer Demand needed to reactivate global supply-chains, get the world's economies moving again and to avoid another Global Great Repub Depression or Great Repub Recession.

Brilliant. And necessary unless you want the world to still be in such a deep Great Repub Depression or Great Repub Recession that few if anyone can afford to buy any stocks, crypto or not.

Shhh. Don't tell Larry Summers and Tiny about this.

And that is the post-Trump's Pandemic recovery discretionary money being plowed into crypto currency speculation this very day, the laughably named [I]Trump Pump[/I] that Trump had zero to do with facilitating with available discretionary speculation money.

Otherwise known as the income gains some people can now spend on rent, food, gas, travel, appliances or even crypto currency speculation.

Thank you Joe and Kamala for affording me this opportunity to educate Elvis on the fact that OLED technology has nothing whatsoever to do with the size of a flat-screen tv and for the opportunity to recommend a useful feature or two on a prospective soundbar for SubCmdr's lovely new big flat-screen tv.

A BONUS REPORT:

[B]The US recovery from COVID-19 in international comparison.[/B]

[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/[/URL]#text=This%20 recovery%20 has%20 been%20 possible, stimulus%20 behind%20 it%E2%80%94 a%20 success.

[QUOTE]The global financial crisis permanently scarred the U.S. economy.

Economic growth never regained its trend rate from before the crisis, which caused a substantial output gap to open up in the decade that followed, with chronically low inflation and discouraged workers among many symptoms.

We survey the U.S. recovery since COVID-19 and compare it to its G10 peer countries.

The U.S. is significantly outperforming its peers in investment and GDP per capita, even as the labor market is showing signs of strong as well as inclusive growth.

This recovery has been possible even as inflation has fallen back substantially, as the impact from supply chain disruptions at the height of COVID-19 has faded.

[B]Overall, this makes the recovery and fiscal stimulus behind it a success.[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2960757]As long as you are on a mission to point out and post about election "sore losers", how they should just get over it and accept it already, have you by any chance noticed there are 2-3 frequent poster MAGA Repubs on this forum who are STILL butt-hurt sore, weeping, whining and rehashing their Party's clear, decisive and fully litigatated multiple times LOSS of the 2020 election?

MORE than 4 Long Years Later.

And, as of this writing, without a word of admonition from you about it in all these four long years plus (from what I recall, could be wrong, maybe I missed it)..[/QUOTE]There is zero room to be criticizing the Democrats for being sore losers. None! That's the absolute ultimate in hypocrisy! And have you seen Chump's cabinet picks? The only qualification seems to be no hesitance to suck his dick and lick his ass! Gaetz as Attorney General? Just insane!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2960754]Even if Trump gets slapped back by horrified Senate Repubs and drops this nomination, the damage has been done!

[B]Trump picks Rep. Matt Gaetz as attorney general.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/13/trump-taps-rep-matt-gaetz-as-attorney-general.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Lololol. The Clown Trump-Musk Administration has now defined itself as such for all the world to see. No backing up and out of it now.[/QUOTE]LOL indeed. I loved the Gaetz pick. In fact, the attorney general pick was the one that I was most concerned with. Would we get another "respectable" asshole like Bill Barr or Garland who allows for lying in the FISA courts and lets the FBI get away with whatever the fuck it wants to or someone who would reign in the Democratic department of "justice"?

Trump's pick of Gaetz shows he is serious about getting rid of the DOJ and its weaponization. After the non-stop government censorship, Russiagate, fine people hoax, Hunter Biden laptop, FISA fiascos, the FBI has shot its last load. They raided the Polymarket CEO's apartment: [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/11/14/fbi-polymarket-ceo-shayne-coplan/76289111007/[/URL].

Yes, anyone going against the deep state narrative that Kamala was going to win has to be locked up. Never in American history has an administration lied more than this one. All they care about is the narrative and beat anyone up who goes outside of it. How dare Polymarket have a platform that showed Trump was likely to win?

Trump is not going to back down on Gaetz not after what the Democratic department of "justice" has put him through.

So far I have loved all of Trump's picks and what he is doing. And that you do not like them Loony Tooms is all the more reason to love them.

EihTooms,

Since you want to post about taking credit for stuff the party you identified with hasn't done, back it up with some data on the money flow into the World Wide Crypto market.

[B]This is not the first time I have asked you to do that[/B]!

You good as one of those Democrats that don't have to pay attention to putting meat in the pot. I get that. That allows you to worry about who has a dick that identifies as a girl and where they get to goto the bathroom and who they can play sports with.

Don't you EVER think that your (compound profanity redacted) [I]dick politics[/I] takes precedent for me over the party that support the industry that allows me to take care of my loved ones. I support the current Republican Government elect because they support the industry I use for my support. Full Stop. When the (compound profanity redacted) get a clue and learn to take crypto and the crypto voters seriously then they might have a chance of getting someone like me (a crypto voter) to give their candidates some consideration. There is an organization that is called stand with crypto the rate every candidate for national office by the stances on crypto. I follow their information and use it as a guide. Republicans are overwhelmingly crypto friendly. If democrats don't recognize that then they better ask somebody. During the time I have been posting here my focus has been on how politics relates to crypto. I don't care about [I]democratic dick politics[/I]. Show me some policies that are going to put meat in my pot.

No EihTooms you don't get to just [I]change the subject[/I]. The Democrats did not support the crypto vote. I have provided plenty of examples. You have NEVER addressed the issue. That is was bad policy and the Democrats forgetting their roots and that lost them the election.

[I]Its the economy, stupid[/I]

What was the name of the brilliant democrat that ran a winning campaign for his candidate for the office to the Presidency of the United States.

Democrats got swept in the best of three game series. Don't kill the messenger. Deal with it. Keep my name out of your posts about dick politics please. The dick I worry about is mine and where which orifice of the girl that is willing to take it the moment I am going to put it in.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2960844]There is zero room to be criticizing the Democrats for being sore losers. None! That's the absolute ultimate in hypocrisy! And have you seen Chump's cabinet picks? The only qualification seems to be no hesitance to suck his dick and lick his ass! Gaetz as Attorney General? Just insane![/QUOTE]Sorry you're so Butt-Hurt. A lot of people like those pick. I predict they Shall Be Confirmed.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2960844]There is zero room to be criticizing the Democrats for being sore losers. None! That's the absolute ultimate in hypocrisy! And have you seen Chump's cabinet picks? The only qualification seems to be no hesitance to suck his dick and lick his ass! Gaetz as Attorney General? Just insane![/QUOTE]Sorry you're so Butt-Hurt. A lot of people like those pick. I predict they Shall Be Confirmed. These picks will get a lot of the Scumbags imbedded in the DOJ and other agencies to leave on their own. I'm sure they are destroying incriminating records as I type. It's Beginning to Feel a Lot Like Trumpmas Everywhere You Go!!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2960709]Oh, please already, with the continual "Big Lie" conspiracy nonsense!

The 2024 election numbers are only now being finalized and the off-the-cuff, deranged, hair-brained conspiratorial logic, to defend the "Big Lie" begins.

First let's state the obvious, that despite the MAGA "Big Lies", countless lost court cases or MAGA "ninja forensics" election probes, there has never been any evidence that the 2020 elections, wasn't anything, but a free and fair election. [/QUOTE]As I said before, Republicans have to accept the 2020 election results. They did not prevent the Democrats from cheating and should not have expected judges to overturn anything. However, it was imperative in 2024 that cheating be stopped before the election begun. So there were boat loads of circumstantial evidence of a rigged election in 2020 but without depositions, turning that circumstantial evidence into legitimate evidence was impossible.

But there is the empirical. And once again, we have the polls that got it all wrong, again. The FBI closing in on the Polymarket CEO for having a platform where people could see the truth, Kamala getting 8 million fewer votes than Biden, and then there is this mysterious massive shift towards Trump and the right in the polls except for in the swing states, [URL]https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-donald-trump-2024-election-states-1981422[/URL].

Maybe this was just a reflection of voter mood in those swing states or maybe it was the Democrats trying to cheat again.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2960709]Yes, where were the "Jewish space lasers" this time, Elvis 2008?[/QUOTE]I do not know about space lasers but what I do know is a hoarde of intelligence officers lied their asses off about Hunter Biden's laptop to rig an election. So you can take your no evidence of election rigging in 2020 and shove it up your ass.