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Emmanuelle and The Lord
During my recent trip to Bangkok, I decided to go to my favorite place The Lord. It was 2 pm on Friday afternoon, and I was surprised to find that it was opened yet. I remember that in the past, it used to open at Noon. So I went to La Belle, which was open, but with only 5 girls, which were not to my taste. The mamasan told me to come back at around 6 pm. I decided to go for some foot massage around and shopping around until that time, and went again to The Lord. This time, I arrived at 6:30 pm and to my surprise, there were only 5 girls to choose from. The mamasan told me that today, there were not many girls working, and I did not like the line-up. I decided to go to one of my old favorite, Emmanuelle. When I entered and saw the line-up, I was amazed by the number of girls. At least 40 girls sitting there and smiling at me, and the price was from 2000 to 6100 baht, much cheaper than The Lord, with very good quality and much more choice. I chose one new girl that just arrived with model look at the highest price at 3400 baht. She told me it was her first day and I was her first customer in this establishment. Since I can converse in Thai, we had a good chat with her. She told me that there were some raids going on at the moment, and there were rumors that The Lord might be targeted. She said she was from the Lord, where her price tag was much higher, and she could earn more there, but did not feel safe to go there at this moment. That might explain why The Lord was quite empty and that a lot of girls might have moved to Emmanuelle which have strong connections in Thailand.
We had a good session, and she followed the procedures that I normally get at The Lord. At the end, I went out happy. And upon reaching the exit, I looked again at the line up, which was still a good one.
So being hungry, I went to a nearby street food restaurant, had a nice 3-meal with drink for only 140 baht and feeling horny again, I decided to go for a second session with Emmanuelle at 10 pm. The papasan was quite happy to see me again, and this time, the line-up was even bigger! Around 50 girls, with even better quality. This time, the M range was available, and they are the most expensive at 6100 baht. I saw 3 amazing girls and since it was around the cost of The Lord, I decided to go for one girl that had the look that I always dream about. Again, we had a very good session but also a nice chat. The girl was from Chiang Mai, very nice face, body shape, with perfect tits, all naturals. She also provided me a very good service, with BBBJ during the bath, we did various positions and I came out very happy!
So if you would like to get the service of The Lord with a cheaper price, but with more choices of girls, I would recommend Emmanuelle during this period. It might not last long, because once the rumors of raids go away, most of the nicest girls would probably return to The Lord.
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Emannuelle
The reason Emannuelle has a good selection these days is due to amalgamation with Amsterdam. The old Amsterdam lication shut down and they took over Emannuelle which was in decline at the time.
I found a cheap stunner skinny girl there last year but unfortunately was a bad choice. Luck of the draw.
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Emmanuelle
Nice report on Emmanuelle. Do they still impose a surcharge for non-East Asians in that place?
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2130148]Why walk 30 minutes when you can ride BTS for 10 minutes? Many to choose from near Prom Pong station.[/QUOTE]Decided to stay next to Prom Pong BTS in Lotus hotel. Any suggestions for massage with extras nearby?
Thank you,
John.
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The hotel is not upscale and is over priced in my opinion.
No CNN or BBC in the rooms. Old rooms, rundown.
As for massage and blowjobs there are heaps include the Japanese oriented BJ bar across the road and down a lane.
[QUOTE=JohnEastBay;2131178]Decided to stay next to Prom Pong BTS in Lotus hotel. Any suggestions for massage with extras nearby?
Thank you,
John.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=*****man;2131053]Nice report on Emmanuelle. Do they still impose a surcharge for non-East Asians in that place?[/QUOTE]Yes of course! All up scale Soapies charge Farang surcharge, excepting those in locations unlikely to get many farangs, I suspect. The budget type Soapies may not have Farang Surcharge.
Would be nice to hear any exceptions where up scale Soapy has no surcharge. Nataree used to one of course, but not in the up scale category. I guess budget places like Ocean, Mersi (Maxi), Nancy, Catherine, Meree, Evita, etc. have no surcharge.
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2130148]Why walk 30 minutes when you can ride BTS for 10 minutes? Many to choose from near Prom Pong station.[/QUOTE]I live part time near to On Nut BTS. It is definitely not the right place to be for mongering. There some massage places not that far away, but I never tried them, and expected them to be very Thai oriented, even though I do speak Thai. It is definitely better to take BTS trip for mongering or if mongering full time, stay much closer to Phrom Phong and Asoke. Even very late at night, a taxi back to On Nut (when BTS closed) can have delays due to road work which has been going on for 2 to 3 years, and costs about 80 Baht.
No use for me to meet girls scared of Farang dick. I prefer girls that have mostly Farang customers, and even prefer them.
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[QUOTE=Supmam;2131313]The hotel is not upscale and is over priced in my opinion.
No CNN or BBC in the rooms. Old rooms, rundown.
As for massage and blowjobs there are heaps include the Japanese oriented BJ bar across the road and down a lane.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your response.
Next time will try to look for another hotel to stay.
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Meree and Evita Question
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2131316]Yes of course! All up scale Soapies charge Farang surcharge, excepting those in locations unlikely to get many farangs, I suspect. The budget type Soapies may not have Farang Surcharge.
Would be nice to hear any exceptions where up scale Soapy has no surcharge. Nataree used to one of course, but not in the up scale category. I guess budget places like Ocean, Mersi (Maxi), Nancy, Catherine, Meree, Evita, etc. have no surcharge.[/QUOTE]Many years ago I often went to Meree and Evita (aka Avita) to good results. Rather inexpensive (around 1200 or 1300 baht during their happy hours for regular girls; sidelines maybe four or five hundred more) and although there were some uglies, there also were some decent looking girls who typically gave good (but not PSE oily shop level) service. Always BBBJs for example, and reasonably friendly girls.
Has anyone visited these places recently? If so, how have they fared, and are they still decent? I also occasionally went to Nataree but the service was more variable there. As mentioned by Syzygies, none had a farang surcharge, which was one of the reasons I gave my business to them (farang surcharges really rub me the wrong way).
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[QUOTE=JohnEastBay;2131178]Decided to stay next to Prom Pong BTS in Lotus hotel. Any suggestions for massage with extras nearby?
Thank you,
John.[/QUOTE]I use not just google but google maps to find many things. Like hotels or massage shops. I searched on massage shops near Phrom Phong BTS. When results came up I clicked on Google Maps.
[URL]https://www.google.com.ph/maps/search/massage[/URL]+shops+near+Phrom+Phong+BTS / at 13.7358266,100.5269663,13 z / data=!3 m1!4 b1.
You will see many. Now you have to research the name of the shop against the reports listed here in this forum. Use the search function and decide where to go. Snow White is popular as is Addicts or Club 101. It is a big world of massage. Why not go explore it and report back here to us of your findings?
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2131713]I use not just google but google maps to find many things. Like hotels or massage shops. I searched on massage shops near Phrom Phong BTS. When results came up I clicked on Google Maps.
[URL]https://www.google.com.ph/maps/search/massage[/URL]+shops+near+Phrom+Phong+BTS / at 13.7358266,100.5269663,13 z / data=!3 m1!4 b1.
You will see many. Now you have to research the name of the shop against the reports listed here in this forum. Use the search function and decide where to go. Snow White is popular as is Addicts or Club 101. It is a big world of massage. Why not go explore it and report back here to us of your findings?[/QUOTE]Thanks!
I have been reading and will be checking out those 3. Will post reports after.
I appreciate all your help.
John.
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[QUOTE=GHaribo;2130889]....
We had a good session, and she followed the procedures that I normally get at The Lord. At the end, I went out happy....
... I decided to go for a second session with Emmanuelle at 10 pm. .... The girl was from Chiang Mai, very nice face, body shape, with perfect tits, all naturals. She also provided me a very good service, with BBBJ during the bath, we did various positions and I came out very happy! ...
[/QUOTE]I think you bring up two good points in your post. One is that your experience depends on the lady and not on the establishment.
Which means that you should periodically check out all the new ladies at various establishments, rather than just limit yourself to one place. And if you especially like some hot lady, then it makes sense to get her contact details, so that you can follow her, when she moves from one place to another. Hot ladies in porn usually acquire a lot of fans. And I think it's the same for hot P4P ladies. There is nothing wrong with becoming the hot lady's fan, when you like her pussy and bum.
And the second point comes from the fact that you went out "happy" the first time, but on your second time you went out "very happy!" Your second experience was even better than the first.
Which isn't surprising. Because when you do two ladies on the same day, then you are bound to last longer with your second lady and nail her better than the first. This kind of thing can be expensive to do. And a cheaper way of doing it is to satisfy yourself with your hand at first, and then go to see the hot lady. This is actually a technique that some sex-therapists advise for guys, so that they will last longer with their ladies.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;2132329]I think you bring up two good points in your post. One is that your experience depends on the lady and not on the establishment.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's always YMMV and much depends on chemistry, but certain minimum standards do need to be set by the establishment. If Tulip can have clear and high minimum service standards at 2100 baht /90 min, I expect no less from places costing 3-5 times as much.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2132724]Yes, it's always YMMV and much depends on chemistry, but certain minimum standards do need to be set by the establishment. If Tulip can have clear and high minimum service standards at 2100 baht /90 min, I expect no less from places costing 3-5 times as much.[/QUOTE]The problem with setting high minimum standards is that such standards discourage women from doing P4P work. The higher standards you set, the fewer women you will have, and the higher price you will have to pay due to the shortage of willing women.
It's like in porn, many women start out doing soft-porn or lesbian porn, without actual intercourse. But over time they get experience and become comfortable with doing more hardcore stuff. And some of these women eventually start doing anal, gang-bangs, and DP's.
You need to have something like this in the P4P business too. Because if you set really high standards for women right from the time they start. Then this will likely discourage many women from even entering the business and doing this kind of work. You will end up with a shortage of women and very high prices. Which will also discourage guys. It would basically destroy the P4P market and make it a lot smaller.
And the reason why I say this is because Tulip ladies offer A+ service. Which isn't popular among Thai ladies. If you set A+ as a minimum standard for Thai P4P ladies, then you aren't going to have many ladies in the P4P business.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;2132737]The problem with setting high minimum standards is that such standards discourage women from doing P4P work. The higher standards you set, the fewer women you will have, and the higher price you will have to pay due to the shortage of willing women.
It's like in porn, many women start out doing soft-porn or lesbian porn, without actual intercourse. But over time they get experience and become comfortable with doing more hardcore stuff. And some of these women eventually start doing anal, gang-bangs, and DP's.
You need to have something like this in the P4P business too. Because if you set really high standards for women right from the time they start. Then this will likely discourage many women from even entering the business and doing this kind of work. You will end up with a shortage of women and very high prices. Which will also discourage guys. It would basically destroy the P4P market and make it a lot smaller.
And the reason why I say this is because Tulip ladies offer A+ service. Which isn't popular among Thai ladies. If you set A+ as a minimum standard for Thai P4P ladies, then you aren't going to have many ladies in the P4P business.[/QUOTE]Christian just posted a stat sheet of a gal from Devil's Den in Pattaya. I wish all shops would adopt this format. It is perfect. Spells our exactly what the gal does and does not do. And to respond to your post above. I would rather keep higher standards. It's already expensive. I don't mind paying dearly for it if it is good. I have no problem with gals who really don't belong in the biz being turned off from the get go.