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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2449923]FKK's should consider turning themselves in to strip clubs for now. Contactless performance with limited number of patrons. I would gladly go to take my mind off things.
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In fact it depends on the level of risk you are willing to take. Less contacts less risks to get infected. I checked how long the virus can survive on your clothes, a glass, a door handle, a desk, a table. It is just terrible probably it can survive several days on some metallic parts. Personally I have reduced to the strict minimum all my contacts, when I go shopping I wash all my things and don t touch them for several days. I consider dating prostitutes in brothels. Is at very high risk and I don t want to take any just for 1 minute of pleasure. Also I don t go to any bar, restaurant. This virus is extremely aggressive, most of the girls have no choice or don t want to consider another life and probably a big majority will come back in FKK as soon as possible to get fucked 10 times or more every day just to support their pimps, boy friends, husband. I have the choice therefor I will not visit any prostitute before long long time.[/QUOTE]Expat,
You are right about danger of infection. Covid virus survives in the air for hours. Close, confined spaces will concentrate the viral load attacking your immune system. It is best to wait until everyone can get the antibody test. If you get the virus (asymptotic) and later test positive for antibodies, then you are free to frolic with Ro again. Until then, play it safe, stay home.
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[QUOTE=Bfsie;2450111]I have never been to any massage parlor in Germany (or anywhere else), but I heard that some of them did offer sex, but you had to know them personally.[/QUOTE]Yes, correct. In Frankfurt, there some clean and spacious parlours. Kaskade and Velvet, for example are well run. Girls you have frequently patronised will agree to sex if you ask. Another nice one, called Pam's lounge used to be the same, but last year, they obtained a sex licence, and girls then openly offered it, for a costlier package.
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2450202]Massage parlors are seedy and grungy. I can't imagine having to visit them in Frankfurt when they have lovely FKKs in the vicinity and where you could get a suck and then fuck a lovely 20 year old for 50 E. I also can't imagine visiting a MP just for a hand job. Sounds yucky to me. I would probably not visit these places in a place like Frankfurt even if they gave it to me for free.[/QUOTE]I never understand why some people go to massage parlor or red light district when there are such a good platform like FKK.
Maybe lack of knowledge, lazy or for bit cheaper price maybe. But satisfaction levels are much higher in FKK if they are seeking for ultimate sex experiences.
It is most wonderful feeling to see girls in front of you and choose to your liking real time. You can select this and that even two girls and tell them to suck your dick side ways at same time, one licking your ass or whatever, you can choose and do what you want in FKK, this is wonderful thing for heterosexual men who always want more and more new young beautiful girls.
Once you pop FKK, you cannot stop. Pringle ad slogan should have been for FKK.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2450231]... Kaskade and Velvet, for example are well run .... Pam's lounge used to be the same, but last year, they obtained a sex licence, and girls then openly offered it, for a costlier package.[/QUOTE]At Pam's you can see an information plate fixed somewhat hidden on the inside of the door of each room or on the wall where the mandatory use of condoms in case of some special features is mentioned. Thus there can be more but not only massage.
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[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2450189]I wonder if any FKK girls .... turned to Seeking Arrangement .... sugar baby websites .... as way of earning money?[/QUOTE]In case their business model is based on different pillars there could be a bunch of ideas.
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2450202]Massage parlours are seedy and grungy.[/QUOTE]The ones I go to are nothing like that. They are usually pleasant studios with fairly pretty, slightly older women. But this all about being pampered with a high quality, very sensual massage with a slip and slide that will finish with an intense oily handjob orgasm. It's more of an experience and not a quick fuck so I go for the two hour sessions.
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2450368]The ones I go to are nothing like that. They are usually pleasant studios with fairly pretty, slightly older women. But this all about being pampered with a high quality, very sensual massage with a slip and slide that will finish with an intense oily handjob orgasm. It's more of an experience and not a quick fuck so I go for the two hour sessions.[/QUOTE]Not quite in Germany, but the Yu&Mi massage parlor in Eindhoven is quite nice. They offer several types of massage.
[URL]https://www.yumi.nl/massages/[/URL]
And I always left happy. At a point, they had a rather skilled S&M provider. Nothing like being masked up, in several compromising situations, and having the door window opened up so clients arriving or leaving can get a glimpse of your debauchery.
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2450199] there are a few that offer full service, you should be able to see what's available on their web site. If a massage has full service then I recall hearing that there are additional taxes paid so that's why it won't be available in many.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tedesco;2450349]At Pam's you can see an information plate fixed somewhat hidden on the inside of the door of each room or on the wall where the mandatory use of condoms in case of some special features is mentioned. Thus there can be more but not only massage.[/QUOTE]As TankTank123 indicated, these places are actually not massage parlors by government registration. They are brothels with brothel licence which also offer massage service besides sex. I think that this kind of place is not allowed to reopen in NRW and Hessen now.
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[QUOTE=Bfsie;2450381]... these places are actually not massage parlors by government registration. They are brothels with brothel licence ... not allowed to reopen in NRW and Hessen now.[/QUOTE]Since July 2017 all these locations are qualified as paysex locations by law as a handjob is also part of the bunch of paysex. That's not news but common sense and known since then. Nonetheless the client isn't compelled to have sexual intercourse but is free to enjoy a massage with or without handjob. You've never been in one of these parlors in Germany, but perhaps it would have been instructive for you in a certain way doing that.
The following newspaper article (keyword: Gastgewerbe) highlights that all brothellike entities have a further lockdown lasting at least until June, 5.
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/rhein-main/lockerungen-der-corona-regeln-in-hessen-was-erlaubt-ist-16763549.html
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Hopefully they will stick to June 5 for reopening or sooner. Wonder when they will let Americans into Germany?
[QUOTE=Tedesco;2450417]Since July 2017 all these locations are qualified as paysex locations by law as a handjob is also part of the bunch of paysex. That's not news but common sense and known since then. Nonetheless the client isn't compelled to have sexual intercourse but is free to enjoy a massage with or without handjob. You've never been in one of these parlors in Germany, but perhaps it would have been instructive for you in a certain way doing that.
The following newspaper article (keyword: Gastgewerbe) highlights that all brothellike entities have a further lockdown lasting at least until June, 5.
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/rhein-main/lockerungen-der-corona-regeln-in-hessen-was-erlaubt-ist-16763549.html[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tedesco;2450417]Since July 2017 all these locations are qualified as paysex locations by law as a handjob is also part of the bunch of paysex. That's not news but common sense and known since then. Nonetheless the client isn't compelled to have sexual intercourse but is free to enjoy a massage with or without handjob. You've never been in one of these parlors in Germany, but perhaps it would have been instructive for you in a certain way doing that.
[/QUOTE]What did I say wrong? If I understand you correctly, we both agree that Pam's and "a few that offer full service" belong to paysex establishment, therefore they must have brothel licence and they are not massage parlors by government registration.
By the way, even though I haven't been to any massage parlor in Germany, I read Rheinforum everyday and know them from other posters on Rheinforum.
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[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2450439]Hopefully they will stick to June 5 for reopening or sooner. Wonder when they will let Americans into Germany?[/QUOTE]The actual German article seems to translate to "until further notice (with June 5 being earliest)".
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2450273]I never understand why some people go to massage parlor or red light district when there are such a good platform like FKK. ...
Maybe lack of knowledge, lazy or for bit cheaper price maybe. But satisfaction levels are much higher in FKK if they are seeking for ultimate sex experiences.
[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you that FKKs are better. However, when I have only 1 hour to spare, say at lunchtime, I go to one of those clean spacious massage parlours I mentioned to pop. I phone up ahead of time to book my desired girl. And with my regulars there, I do get my 'ultimate sex experience'.
While SYTs are generally not available, they do have a few pretty girls in their late 20's or early 30's.
It costs €100 for 1 hour erotic massage, and for those who offer it, €50 more for covered sex. So, if only 1 hour free time is available, it would cost about the same as going to an FKK. (No food provided, but then, also no transport cost as I can walk to them.).
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2450506]I totally agree with you that FKKs are better. However, when I have only 1 hour to spare, say at lunchtime, I go to one of those clean spacious massage parlours I mentioned to pop. I phone up ahead of time to book my desired girl. And with my regulars there, I do get my 'ultimate sex experience'.
While SYTs are generally not available, they do have a few pretty girls in their late 20's or early 30's.
It costs 100 for 1 hour erotic massage, and for those who offer it, 50 more for covered sex. So, if only 1 hour free time is available, it would cost about the same as going to an FKK. (No food provided, but then, also no transport cost as I can walk to them.).[/QUOTE]Right, where about can be the reason and also with massage parlor I imagine time is more accurate and punctual where as FKK girls can be late for 10 minutes etc. And if you talking lunch break as you mentioned, that 10 or 15 min delay can hold you back to go because it could lead you to be mentally rush and it is not good feeling to be rush.
But I would say avoid lunch time to go though, but if you are married, when are other time you can safely escape from your wife with good alibi like I went to lunch, which is half true LOL.
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[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2450439]Hopefully they will stick to June 5 for reopening or sooner. Wonder when they will let Americans into Germany?[/QUOTE]On 17 March 2020, Federal Minister Seehofer ordered extensive restrictions on entry at Germany's external Schengen borders in order to contain the spread of the coronavirus. These restrictions are based on a communication of the European Commission supported by the heads of state and government of the EU member states. The restrictions apply to international aviation and maritime traffic originating outside the European Union until [B]15 May 2020[/B].
[URL]https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/faqs/EN/topics/civil-protection/coronavirus/coronavirus-faqs.html[/URL]#doc13797140 bodyText3.
It will most likely be prolonged another 30 days.
