Kyiv

Has anyone tried this escort agency. [URL]http://gia-escort.com/[/URL] Or any other escort agency in Kiev? Are there specific girls you can recommend?

How about these strip clubs: Rio, Red Lion, Flirt House, Arena Stars. Can you bring a girl to your hotel and fuck her?

[QUOTE=HugeDickMan;1958753]Has anyone tried this escort agency. [URL]http://gia-escort.com/[/URL] Or any other escort agency in Kiev? Are there specific girls you can recommend?

How about these strip clubs: Rio, Red Lion, Flirt House, Arena Stars. Can you bring a girl to your hotel and fuck her?[/QUOTE]Di dude,

I think you have no time to read even last pages of the forum because if you read, you would saw plenty of answer related to your question.

Kiev is not good for monger who does not do homework properly before the visit.

Yes, you can find girls whom you can take out.

3-4 years ago, when I was walking in Kresatik, there were so many pimps with business cards. They were selling the girls.

In my last 2 visit, I found these men, near Arena. But this girls are not user friendly, they say no no no for every request, they just blowjob and fuck vaginal.

[QUOTE=HugeDickMan;1958753]Has anyone tried this escort agency. [URL]http://gia-escort.com/[/URL] Or any other escort agency in Kiev? Are there specific girls you can recommend?

How about these strip clubs: Rio, Red Lion, Flirt House, Arena Stars. Can you bring a girl to your hotel and fuck her?[/QUOTE]RTF. Oh, did I say RTF? I meant to say RTFF.

[QUOTE=YummyPL;1958802]RTF. Oh, did I say RTF? I meant to say RTFF.[/QUOTE]You mean read the fucking forum?

[QUOTE=TheWhatever;1957930]Girls on Mamba look prettier and prettier, no wonder why the most gorgeous top models are from Uktraine.

Though is Mamba a good source for meeting cheap but good looking girls in Kiev? Or most of them are fake?[/QUOTE]Cheap. Maybe not, they usually ask for 100 dollars, for them its not cheap.

Even is you do your homework, you probably be very disappointed. The beautiful girls left 5-7 years ago. 95% of the pictures on Mamba and other sites are fake. Nightlife is dead with the exception of Friday night. Kiev is a waste of time and energy. The city is beautiful, but no energy.

[QUOTE=YellowPaul;1957898]Chi is the #1 high end disco with some working girls but mostly a regular crowd if you have game.

If you can get a wing man $400-$500 min charges for a table split is well spent if you want to see the best that Kiev has to offer. On par with Las Vegas but much cheaper to get a bottle service.

Also no shame is getting a rid of girl you bring back to the table if you getting a bad vibe from her or she or friends just seem more if your booze then you.

Avoid Skybar where them seem to have a more restrictive door policy towards foreigners lately.[/QUOTE]Chi is a very tight door, unless you booked a table or on a list you're unlikely to get in. Lots o f local celebs go there. They never play commercial music, only import deep house and techno DJ's.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;1959188]Chi is a very tight door, unless you booked a table or on a list you're unlikely to get in. Lots o f local celebs go there. They never play commercial music, only import deep house and techno DJ's.[/QUOTE]Chi is very overrated place. If you don't speak russian or don't go with someone who speaks russian most places like CHI will be total waste of your money and time.

[QUOTE=Samcik;1959229]Chi is very overrated place. If you don't speak russian or don't go with someone who speaks russian most places like CHI will be total waste of your money and time.[/QUOTE]Yep. The whole glamour model scene should be avoided in Kiev. I like young GND's, the more naive the better.

[QUOTE=Riina;1959249]Yep. The whole glamour model scene should be avoided in Kiev. I like young GND's, the more naive the better.[/QUOTE]Which clubs do you go for these? I am getting tired of same Sky / Chi / the-Lux type places. Lots of young girls everywhere. Streets, metro. Best to approach them during the day, but no everyone can do that. Patipa used to be good but it is closed now.

In terms of picking up CHI is def overrated but the girls are amazing and I like the type of music they play a lot.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;1959300]Which clubs do you go for these? I am getting tired of same Sky / Chi / the-Lux type places. Lots of young girls everywhere. Streets, metro. Best to approach them during the day, but no everyone can do that. Patipa used to be good but it is closed now.

In terms of picking up CHI is def overrated but the girls are amazing and I like the type of music they play a lot.[/QUOTE]
I found Shooters to be my best option, but some nights were pretty terrible. All the clubs are worth trolling through, go wherever you enjoy the scene. I personally just dislike glamour and silly prices in a poor country.

If I was a shy guy in Kiev, I would try to find monger friends. Not so difficult to spot a hunter on K street with similar interests and befriend.

Sorry, Shooters is one of the worst clubs I have ever been to in my life. You will be real disappointed. Ugly women and lots of Turkish guys. Night life is pretty good on Friday's, dead the rest of the week.

I am quite impressed, and I am sure I am not the only one, how much these Mamba's girls can get in 2 hours of work.

So I compare what guys in London, in Berlin and in the USA pay for 2 hours escorts. Of course Mamba's girls are a bit special, as they usually don't work for an escort agency. Many of them just work once in a while, part time or for a period of time. So I won't compare with the escort agencies in Kiev where the girls get around the half of the price. A Mamba girl has usually no pimp and gets the full amount in her pocket.

Concerning the salaries, I take into account a more or less average salary. In Kiev it's difficult to estimate it as most of the people earn around 4-7000 UAH a month and less with a full time job. So I choose 5000 UAH that is now around 200 $.

Berlin, 19000 euro a year = 21000 $ / 12 = 1750 $ a month.

London, 48000 a year = 59600 $ / 12 = 4970 $ a month.

USA, 40 000 $ a year. 40000 $ / 12 = 3333 $.

Escorts in Berlin: 199 - 385 $ for 2 hours, I mean you can get an escort for 200 $ for 2 hours in Berlin, that's the cheapest price.

Escorts in London: 300 - 600 $ for 2 hours.

Escorts in the USA: I haven't a clue. I am sure someone can give some info. There are surely many differences between states.

About both cities I started with the cheapest price for escorts and I go up to the middle. Of course you can pay much more in these cities, but still many escorts are available in these given price ranges.

Consequently that's the new price in Berlin for a 2 hours escort:

1750/2 = 875 $.

In London it would be:

4970/2 = 2485 $ for 2 hours escort.

Of course on these salaries they have to pay some taxes, so we might take off the 20 %.

Berlin: 700 $ for 2 hours.

London: a bit less than 2000 $.

I would not say that it's absolutely precise, but I think it gives us an idea how much money we give to these girls. 100 $ that's the third, the half of a monthly pay and even the monthly pay for some people. To be a Mamba girl looking for a sponsor, that's the most well paid job there.

3 meetings a week 300$ X 4 = 1200 $ a month = 25000 UAH, about 4-5 monthly pay.
That's so easy to get 1200 $ a month for these girls...

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I would not say that it's absolutely precise, but I think it gives us an idea how much money we give to these girls. 100 $ that's the third, the half of a monthly pay and even the monthly pay for some people. To be a Mamba girl looking for a sponsor, that's the most well paid job there.

[/QUOTE]Good point Volpne. Hundred dollars is an incredible amount of money in Kiev. Any girl that asks for more is trying to manipulate the situation and will probably deliver poor service.

[QUOTE=Volpone;1959954]I am quite impressed, and I am sure I am not the only one, how much these Mamba's girls can get in 2 hours of work.

So I compare what guys in London, in Berlin and in the USA pay for 2 hours escorts. Of course Mamba's girls are a bit special, as they usually don't work for an escort agency. Many of them just work once in a while, part time or for a period of time. So I won't compare with the escort agencies in Kiev where the girls get around the half of the price. A Mamba girl has usually no pimp and gets the full amount in her pocket.


I would not say that it's absolutely precise, but I think it gives us an idea how much money we give to these girls. 100 $ that's the third, the half of a monthly pay and even the monthly pay for some people. To be a Mamba girl looking for a sponsor, that's the most well paid job there.

3 meetings a week 300$ X 4 = 1200 $ a month = 25000 UAH, about 4-5 monthly pay.
That's so easy to get 1200 $ a month for these girls...[/QUOTE]Volpone that's not mathematics! An iphone in Ukraine costs almost the same than in US and a lot of people have an iphone. In Ukraine there are rich people, not too many but yes there are. Normal people in Ukraine don't pay for sex, only rich people and tourists do it. So, makes no sense to do a comparation between the medium salary and the cost of an escort or the cost of an iphone.