Santo Domingo vs. Cali Colombia updated
[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2562862]I'm posting this here because most mongers and expats do the DR / Colombia circut. When asked about the DR vs. Colombia any DR expat will tell you Colombia wins hands down. Then when asked why are they in the DR they don't have a good answer.
Granted I haven't been to Meddy or Carty so take this with a grain of salt. Colombia blows the DR out of the water in all ways except for general ease of living and women. What I mean is you can
speak almost no Spanish like I did when I came to the DR and quickly figure it out. I was able to get what I needed as easily in the Dr as I was in English Speaking Kenya. Shit is different in Cali Colombia. You get the run around when finding out basic information and there doesn't seem to be any monger hangouts where you can meet fellow mongers and get schooled. This is similar to Africa where people don't really help Black Mongers.
Secondly the women, Here in Cali there seems to be more plastic here than in the DR and more indigenous women who generally lack curves but the surgery is more realistic here. In the Dr when they use surgery they ten to go overboard and it can look crazy especially when you see them at the mall with their children. But the women are far far far more user friendly in the DR than in Colombia. In the DR I never stepped foot in a Casa, There was no need. Once I found my footing I was picking up semis and "non pros" with ease. I fucked a fair amount of shop girls in Agora and Megacentro malls.
El Conde was like shooting fish in a barrel and the Malecon was an excellent hunting ground. I will say that Colombian Casa girls in smaller casas tend to be as or even more accomodating than a food court worker in Megacentro you can generally get multi nut sessions and CIP (if that's what you want) in an "independent" casa as you can in the DR. I think that Colombian hoes are more "regulated" I haven't seen "the look" in Chipichape Mall from a shopgirl but if a woman is willing to sell pussy I think that they're encouraged to rent out a space and take clients there as opposed to the more freewhelling DR where chicks make on the spot decisions to have sex for money. There isn't a Parque Independencia or even a Parque LLeras in Cali.
Then there's the middleman issue. In Cali it's almost impossible to get takeout (take in?) You either go to the Casa or pay waaaaay more to a cab driver wannabe pimp who will wait as you fuck. I never experienced that in the DR. If a girl "delivered" another girl I usually fucked the delivery girl too just to prove a point. I'm been here more than a month and I haven't had one girl offer up a friend.
My overall point is that by a month's time I was swimming in women in the DR here it's still somewhat touch and go. I'm not motivated to visit every casa to find those diamonds in the rough.
But I will say there's way more non mongering things to do in Cali than in Santo Domingo
The Expats have it right you should live in the DR and vacation in Colombia.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.[/QUOTE]I'm quoting my own post for me but also for any other monger considering to travel to SD Cali or both.
After finding my feet I still agree that women are still more user friendly in the DR, It's hard to find a woman that going to give you a bad lay. It seems like DR women willing to get into the game are trained up with excellent "bedside Manner". Then there's the fact that 90% of anything in the states you can get in the DR Technically that's true in Cali too but there's random things that you may miss from the states that I can't find in Cali. Cali is a large city with over a million people but it has a small town feel.
Same thing for the women I'm getting low mileage "Non Pro's" in Cali fairly well. Again it's no Santo Domingo but generally the bedside manner is the same. I do miss the Malecon and the beaches but they are a short flight away, However a 7 dollar bus trip beats a 40 dollar plane trip. That brings me to Cali's biggest selling point Price. I made it to the 2000 DOP Peso club after starting in the 4000 peso club but I'm in the 100 K COP club. As of this writing 100 K COP is about 1476 DOP so it's still cheaper overall. That being said I had a few accidental freebies by this point in the DR. What I mean iby accidental freebies is that I had a few Tinder overnights where the chica didn't ask for a dime so I didn't give them any but they didn't return calls after that Mr. Go-Go put me straight on that.
But speaking on Prices everything's cheaper here, again my apartment is currently 372 USD when I first rented it is was 437 USD till I cut out the Airbnb middleman. I had an apartment north of the river in SD that was 550 USD and the price never dropped in fact in increased for Christmas. You can go clear across town in rush hour and you won't pay more than 6 USD. I routinely paid 6 bucks to go from Piantini to the Colonial Zone.
Then there's the infrastructure one reason that you will pay more is because tourism affects the Dominican economy more so literally your Airbnb host would rather kick you out because the host knows that there's some noob willing to pay double the price you paid a month for for only two weeks. In Cali there's not zero Blackouts but no one has an inverter in their house because it's not needed. I drink bottled water but the water here is potable so you can brush your teeth with the water here. It's not nearly as hot here as people would have you believe, the heat myth is from people visiting from Medellin or Bogota. There's little humidity here because it's freqently overcast and it rains for a few minutes everyday (usually late nights and early mornings) . One final upside to Cali is because of the lack of demand there's no talk of cedula's and multimonth security deposits to rent in Cali, You make a deal and you pay the rent as you go no paperwork required.
One other con is the few monger expats here aren't tight knit there's no monger bars no El Conde where you can people watch and pick up a girl who tickles your fancy. Most people not only don't speak english but don't understand american accented spanish. Practice rolling your are's before you get here.
That being said as an retired expat Cali is hard to beat but Santo Domingo is hard not to love. It looks like I'll live in Cali and visit Santo Domingo, In fact I'm making a visa run soon.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
You hit the nail on the head
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2597855]It's hard to find a woman that will give you a bad lay? In where Cali or SD? What do you mean by "bedside manner"? If you're talking BBJ I totally agree. IMHO DR chicas oral skills are better. Oral is usually on the menu during a session.
I agree the women in the DR are A little more user-friendly. That's because when they see a Gringo they see a walking ATM machine. They have had friends, family members, and acquaintances who have benefited from the generosity and / or stupidity of gringos. When they have a fish on the hook, they are relentless and try to get everything they can as quick as they can. Their mouths and their hands constantly stay open. They are not too proud to beg.
In Cali Colombia The gringo financial contributions are not essential to the women or The local economy. Women that don't freelance In bars or streets are less likely to want to hook up with you away from the casa.
In the DR the chicas are constantly looking for ways to get more money. In Cali they may Get with you to pay some bill or extra money for food but after that they are good. They won't be hounding you or coming up with excuses to RFM.
One thing I notice big about the difference between both countries are the pimps and hustlers. It's hard and illegal to pimp Women in the DR. There are less casas and more freelancing. Usually the guys that are helping chicas get money are boyfriends, close associates, or family members. The guys stay out of sight and out of mind until it's time to drop her off or pick her up. The hustlers in the DR have a understanding of English and makes their money getting commission from both you and the chica if they can.
I notice in Bogota, Colombia (like Cuba) the pimps or more hands-on with the chicas. They are in control and many times demand respect from you for talking to their women. Example, I was talking to a chica in Bogota. Because I didn't acknowledge her pimp he made a signal for the chica to walk away. He saw I was interested but he didn't care about the money he wanted the respect. I made a mental note to get acquainted with the pimps before dealing with chicas in the streets.
I like Colombia because of its availability of chicas in every city. Though in Santo Domingo, Boca chica, Sosua, and PP the chicas are more user-friendly; The amount of chicas at your disposal in Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota, and Cali are much larger.[/QUOTE]I described "bedside Manner" in the Cali section. In short it means GFE, I personally cannot see GFE not including a BBJ at the very least. Yes because of lack of demand there's less motivation of Cali chicas to try to drain as much money out of each monger. I'm in Cali and so far I've only received a few RFM's here and when they were denied they were cool with it.
The whole point of my DR vs. Cali posts is because most DR vets also visit Colombia or are interested in doing so so I pointed out the differences. Based on what you're saying Cali seems to be like Cuba with better infrastructure. I will say I never saw any evidence of Pimps in Cali.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
