American Politics

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2961655]OK, got it. Joe Biden lied about the laptop, Biden operatives hoodwinked ex intelligence officials into supporting the lie, and the FBI didn't inform the public of the truth. The main stream media fell in line and social media like Facebook censored any posts reflective of the New York Post's reporting. That's just business as usual in Washington, D. C. The memo from the confidential FBI informant that was released by Republican Senator Chuck Grassley was a hell of a lot more damning than Hunter's Laptop, and that wouldn't have made a difference in the election either. It was all about the economy and fallout from the pandemic, and Trump was dealt a bad hand. If Hillary Clinton had been running as the incumbent in 2020, my guess is that she would have lost by more than Trump.

There are some parallels with Democrats' argument that James Comey cheated Hillary in 2016 and she would have won the presidency if not for that. Admittedly the Democrats have a weaker argument.

And before Tooms and Spidy jump down my throat, the confidential FBI informant was probably lying. Grassley agrees.

Grassley's release: [url]https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-obtains-and-releases-fbi-record-alleging-vp-biden-foreign-bribery-scheme[/url][/QUOTE]You like to speak for all people and say people vote their pocketbooks, some do, many don't!!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2961503]Oh, so that was the Repub Congress that did that in 2000. And then the Repub so-called potus that officially signed off on it in 2001.

Late 2001.

The last month of 2001.

BTW, that was a culmination of interests and efforts by at least 5 Presidents; 3 Repubs and 2 Dems, then finalized by a Repub.

And, yes, it was better for the USA Economy than the alternative.

But it is highly debatable whether or not the horrific economic downturns ushered in by those 3 Repub presidents offset enough value and benefit to China entering the WTO for Americans to fully feel those benefits.

As usual, you are demonizing the wrong people for your economic grievances. Or racial grievances. Or whatever grievances you and the MAGAs are wallowing in.[/QUOTE]"As usual, you are demonizing the wrong people for your economic grievances. Or racial grievances. Or whatever grievances you and the MAGAs are wallowing in".

This sounds like something they pay their online trolls to write all over the internet.

Lets not forget all the IP theft of tens of trillions of USD.

If that isn't an act or war alone I don't know what is.

A congressional estimate in the USA Placed the cost of Chinese intellectual property theft at 225600 billion dollars yearly. According to a CNBC survey, 1 in 5 corporations say China has stolen intellectual property within the previous year.

Say 5 trillion USD every 10 yrs.

[URL]https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Egregious-Cases-of-Chinese-Theft-of-American-Intellectual-Property.pdf[/URL]

[URL]https://saisreview.sais.jhu.edu/how-chinas-political-system-discourages-innovation-and-encourages-ip-theft/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/five-eyes-intelligence-chiefs-warn-chinas-theft-intellectual-property-2023-10-18/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinas-technology-theft-major-threat-fbi-head-warns-60-minutes/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/china-intellectual-property-theft-fbi-linda-sun-hochul-infiltration-1950686[/URL]

I understand why you haven't been back to California or the USA in well over a decade, you hate all of us so much.

And I wouldn't be surprised if you were involved with IP theft for the CCP and there's a warrant for you, and the only way you will be returning is in handcuffs.

There is a file ISG won't upload, Google.

FBI. Gov.

Executive summary China: the risk to corporate America.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2961683]Regardless whatever is floating around in his lizard brain skull with regard to "love" or "hate", the irrefutable fact is Trump did virtually zero that benefitted those groups or anyone else in America.

The first couple of years was him coasting on the Obama-Biden economy he inherited. The increase in wages during his term was all due to primarily Blue Cities and Blue States raising wages in 2018 and 2019. No meaningful business expansion or jobs creation came about from his $2. 5+ Trillion TCJA addition to the deficit in those first three years. He kept our military actively involved in a full combat War in Afghanistan for the entirety of his term, every day of it.

But he did find a way to fulfill his traditional historic Repub Party Potus Duty to wipe out millions upon millions of jobs before he was booted out. And with the added and probably new Repub Party Potus Duty bonus of mass murdering at least a million Americans. Mostly older ones last time. Look for him and his Secretary of Health and Human Brain-Eating Worms to set new records on mass murdering American infants in his 2nd term.[/QUOTE]"Mass murdering American infants in his 2nd term" WTF? Butchering babies is the full time hobby for fun of Democrats.

Since Roe v. Wade in 1973, more than 63 million abortions have occurred in the United States. In 2023, the first full year after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, there were over one million legal abortions performed in the USA:

This was the highest number of abortions in over a decade.

It was an 11% increase from 2020.

It was the first time there were over a million abortions in the USA Formal health care system since 2012.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2961655]OK, got it. Joe Biden lied about the laptop, Biden operatives hoodwinked ex intelligence officials into supporting the lie, and the FBI didn't inform the public of the truth. The main stream media fell in line and social media like Facebook censored any posts reflective of the New York Post's reporting.[/QUOTE]You caught the gist of it.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2961655]That's just business as usual in Washington, D. C.[/QUOTE]That is irrelevant. What got this started is your saying the 2020 election was not rigged. I said it was. Now you are saying this kind of rigging goes on all the time. You keep coming up with reasons to blow off rigging an election and are not that only one. That natural tendency to let bygones be bygones IMO is not going to happen this time. We did that with Hiliary, and the Dems and intelligence agencies and FBI got worse and worse after that.

So Tiny, follow me for a second. You have a son fucking hookers, doing cocaine like crazy, and spending six figures a year on porn sites, and you have the FBI that can follow him around and know what he is doing. So it is obvious Joe Biden knew all that Hunter was doing, and he did not stop him because Hunter was funneling money to Joe. I am not going to play the criminal card here and prove that beyond a doubt. It is just obvious. Anybody who thinks Joe Biden has no hand in Hunter Biden's sins is a fucking moron.

So when it comes to the Attorney General, I want a guy who has been beaten up by law enforcement. He is the only one who will have the balls to carry out the reforms. The charges made against Gaetz pail in comparison to a corrupt FBI. We Republicans cannot risk having such corrupt Democrats, law enforcement, and intelligence agencies.

It is my opinion, and feel free to disagree with it, that Trump is not going to back down on Gaetz being Attorney General.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2961515]I'm reading a lot of not so thinly veiled Anti Semitic racist hatred from you Dems[/QUOTE]Yes, and I'll do you one better: some of that racist hatred ain't thin at all.

That being said, antisemitim doesn't dwell on the left only. The Far Right are every bit as viciously anti-Semitic as their sworn enemies, which this forum has demonstrated in all its splendor.

That's one of the reasons why I've always expressed my disgust for everything that begins with "far" -- be it Far Right or Far Left. Your kind and theirs are scourge upon humanity.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2961538]Are you Overjoyed that We Shall Never have to Hear from Cackling Kamala Jones Ever Again? Also Uncle Obama's Deep State Shadow government Shall Be Destroyed?[/QUOTE]Yes, but the real enemy of the Republican Party and America is not the Democrats but the deep state controlling them in the background. To me, the big issue is one we see here on these forums when mongers like to call themselves law abiding citizens when they are breaking the law left and right. You may or may not have been caught, and that is what mongers should focus on. If law enforcement has no restrictions holding them back, and right now, they have none, then law enforcement is effectively a dictatorship and can arrest you anytime they feel like it. And that dictatorship tried to keep Trump out as president. We need to disregards their labels on people and assess people for ourselves as we did with Trump.

What I hope is Republicans look at those arrested and why and ask how and why they were arrested rather than patting themselves on the back for being law abiding. Was the purpose of the arrest to help the public or to help law enforcement? I wish mongers would look at those arrested who were not hurting anyone and say, "This could be me" versus "I was not arrested because unlike you, I am not doing anything wrong".

Trump voters saw what Trump was convicted of, looked at law enforcement and the Democrats, and said, whatever Trump did, what you guys did was way worse, and we have to continue to be like that.

So when it comes to Gaetz for example, are Republicans going to be all holier than thou and say, "Mr. Gaetz how dare you have gone to a party where cocaine was used" or are we going to laugh it off and say, "Why the fuck should we care when Hunter is snorting cocaine at the White House?

As for Gaetz having sex with the 17 year old, they better give more detail if they expect me to care. Was this woman really 17 years, 11 months old, had been with 50 other guys, routinely used drugs, lied about her age and or had a fake ID, dressed like a 25 year old, and was arrested for something else and ratting on Gaetz to get her own sentence reduced, or was she a virginal type that Gaetz preyed on? If I do not have any information, I am going with the former, and if it is the former, who gives a fuck if he had sex with her?

If the Democratic douches want to bring up rule of law again, we should tattoo the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop to their collective bodies. What the Hunter Biden laptop showed is Democrats do not give a fuck about the law or having objective law enforcement. All they care about is power.

If you look at the contents of that laptop, it is a diary of disgusting, illegal behavior. We need to remember that. Anytime a Democratic douche like Hunter breaks the law, it is Russia's fault or someone else's fault. That is how utterly immoral law enforcement and the Democrats have become.

[QUOTE]I understand some feel his SEC Chair will be good for crypto. [b]But what if he is not? What if he is worse for crypto than the guy he replaced[/b]?[/QUOTE]I have zero reason to think putting the boot in the (compound profanity redacted) current SEC Chair's ass will not improve the outlook of the USGOV on crypto substantially. Individuals can ask all the questions they like. How about they table the issue until Trump returns to the office of the Presidency? [B]Because I don't need to answer their questions about the future[/B].

[I]The election of Donald J. Trump as President could have a significant impact on the crypto industry given his campaign promise of a pro-crypto administration. President Trump will be able to appoint a new chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) who could decide to take a different approach to crypto than has been taken under the leadership of the current chair, Gary Gensler. Under current leadership, the SEC has brought numerous enforcement actions against crypto industry members alleging violations of the federal securities laws, including actions solely for failing to register as a broker-dealer, clearing agency or national securities exchange under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. By contrast, the SEC has not proposed rules tailored to crypto assets, instead suggesting that current statutory and regulatory requirements can be applied to crypto assets. Crypto industry members have disagreed and have reported that their attempts to engage with the SEC on crypto-related issues have been unsuccessful. However, with the upcoming appointment of a new SEC chair, this approach could change, so members of the crypto industry should start preparing to engage with the SEC once new leadership is confirmed[/I]

[URL]https://www.wilmerhale.com/en/insights/client-alerts/20241114-trump-administration-2-how-the-secs-approach-to-crypto-could-change[/URL]

[B]The Defense Rests[/B]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/us/politics/ann-selzer-ends-election-polls.html[/URL]

Another fake pollster exposed.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/us/politics/harris-campaign-finances.html[/URL]

A YUGE gracias to all you cucks that sent her loot, you could of given it to real life putas and gotten something in return LMFAO.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2961700]"As usual, you are demonizing the wrong people for your economic grievances. Or racial grievances. Or whatever grievances you and the MAGAs are wallowing in".

This sounds like something they pay their online trolls to write all over the internet.

Lets not forget all the IP theft of tens of trillions of USD.

If that isn't an act or war alone I don't know what is.

A congressional estimate in the USA Placed the cost of Chinese intellectual property theft at 225600 billion dollars yearly. According to a CNBC survey, 1 in 5 corporations say China has stolen intellectual property within the previous year.

Say 5 trillion USD every 10 yrs.

[URL]https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Egregious-Cases-of-Chinese-Theft-of-American-Intellectual-Property.pdf[/URL]

[URL]https://saisreview.sais.jhu.edu/how-chinas-political-system-discourages-innovation-and-encourages-ip-theft/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/five-eyes-intelligence-chiefs-warn-chinas-theft-intellectual-property-2023-10-18/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinas-technology-theft-major-threat-fbi-head-warns-60-minutes/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/china-intellectual-property-theft-fbi-linda-sun-hochul-infiltration-1950686[/URL]

I understand why you haven't been back to California or the USA in well over a decade, you hate all of us so much.

And I wouldn't be surprised if you were involved with IP theft for the CCP and there's a warrant for you, and the only way you will be returning is in handcuffs.

There is a file ISG won't upload, Google.

FBI. Gov.

Executive summary China: the risk to corporate America.[/QUOTE]Trump to Xi; "Make sure I win. ".

It was an extremely narrow win for him. But his begging finally paid off.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2961717]"Mass murdering American infants in his 2nd term" WTF? Butchering babies is the full time hobby for fun of Democrats.

Since Roe v. Wade in 1973, more than 63 million abortions have occurred in the United States. In 2023, the first full year after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, there were over one million legal abortions performed in the USA:

This was the highest number of abortions in over a decade.

It was an 11% increase from 2020.

It was the first time there were over a million abortions in the USA Formal health care system since 2012.[/QUOTE]Fetuses are neither "babies" nor "infants".

[B]Stages of Fetal Development[/B]

[URL]https://www.msdmanuals.com/home/women-s-health-issues/normal-pregnancy/stages-of-fetal-development[/URL]

Virulently pro Repub, pretend "Bothsider", highly-valued long time Repub Party shill Bill Maher spent 4 years of weekly anti-Dem / Biden, pro Repub / Trump election campaign rallying trying to eke out at least the extremely narrow win for Trump he achieved based in part on the blatant Repub talking point lies that "Dems' abortion stance is killing babies" and "Dems can't define what a 'woman' is". LOL. Clearly, Repubs have never had a clue what a fetus is vs what a baby is.

His most recent post-election screed designed to deflect blame for Trump's extremely narrow win from himself and his consistent pro Repub lies to all-time classic lies about Dems like the above, that they demand to "Defund the police" and so on when Repubs and their leadership are the only ones who actually DID vote to Defund the Police and are demanding to Defund the FBI / National Police and the DOJ even today.

Looks like he has convinced you that aborting a fetus is "killing babies", too.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2961749]Yes, and I'll do you one better: some of that racist hatred ain't thin at all.

That being said, antisemitim doesn't dwell on the left only. The Far Right are every bit as viciously anti-Semitic as their sworn enemies, which this forum has demonstrated in all its splendor.

That's one of the reasons why I've always expressed my disgust for everything that begins with "far" -- be it Far Right or Far Left. Your kind and theirs are scourge upon humanity.[/QUOTE]I'm not a fan of the Horseshoe club.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory[/URL]

But I would assign ET Spidy and Tiny12 to that club.

I am not a Republican or a Democrat, I hate both parties.

But I don't think the far right hates the Jews, maybe they did 80 yrs ago.

Ie, I consider Mike Huckabee pretty far right and he's as Pro Israel / Jew as you will find (also Desantis, the National Review crowd et al).

Evangelicals love Israel and The Jews.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2961464]I mean WTF did these dumb fucks expect? Chump is somebody who didn't even want to admit Muslims into this country! Even if they had valid visas! Then he turned around and moved the USA embassy to Jerusalem! Just what did they believe he was going to do for them? Talk about voting against your own interests! Same for women. It's just ignorant![/QUOTE]It was such a razor-thin marginal win for Trump this time I suspect when all the dust settles and the counting is over it will turn out just an amount of self-loathing America-hating Muslims who therefore voted for Trump instead of Harris capable of being crammed into 1-2 Boeing 757's or 767's in each of the only three states that mattered was the deciding factor in the outcome.

Essentially a 2024 political version of the GW Bush 9-11 Attack on the USA Economy and National Security.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out they were shouting "Allahu Akbar!" As they entered the Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisonsin polling places to vote for Trump.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2961717]"Mass murdering American infants in his 2nd term" WTF? Butchering babies is the full time hobby for fun of Democrats.

Since Roe v. Wade in 1973, more than 63 million abortions have occurred in the United States. In 2023, the first full year after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, there were over one million legal abortions performed in the USA:

This was the highest number of abortions in over a decade.

It was an 11% increase from 2020.

It was the first time there were over a million abortions in the USA Formal health care system since 2012.[/QUOTE]In Texas, a woman who was raped, should keep rape fruit, to see and remember everyday? Also to get a child, You have to have to take care of him. I wonder how women could vote for Trump, but US have fat in brain, like they are obese because of MacDo and Cola.

US police don t seem to like Tesla. Laughable in Germany over than 100 km / h, when European V8 are for 300 km / h.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2961404] Please decide whether I'm a Libertarian Republican or Bothsider / Neithersider. It's not fair to just switch back and forth depending on the subject matter. It has to be one or the other.[/QUOTE] What can I tell ya, is that, you seem to be a guy with many faces! QAnon/MAGA or Repub Lib or Lib Repub, is all the same right-wing shit!

But I think the term I used was, [i][b]"Okay, but a 'Spineless', flip-flop artist and bothsider/ neithersider guy?"[/b][/i] And flip-flopping, is something it would seem you Repubs do on the regular.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2961794]But I would assign ET Spidy and Tiny12 to that club.

[b]I am [u]not a Republican[/u] or a Democrat, I hate both parties. [/b] [/QUOTE]

Case and point, with Repub flip-flop artist #2, declaring his not a Repub!

MDS1, being a former "catholic", now "atheist" (...how disappointing for the nuns who raised you), who now worships a wannabe false "savior", but is now no longer a Repub. I'm sure all the political identity flip-flopping is all but per for the course, for the right-wing lunatic fringe, not ever sure who or what they wannabe and yet, it's only Monday.

Perhaps, Tiny 12 and MDS1, y'all should get together and decide what [i][b]"political pronoun"[/b][/i] y'all wannabe on Tuesday? [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]