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Anyone have any tips on how to avoid HIV aids when using Bangkok Massage Parlors Girls services like in Ratchada, Nataree, etc?
Thanks before
Use condoms.
[QUOTE=NowInBangkok; 1169569]Anyone have any tips on how to avoid HIV aids when using Bangkok Massage Parlors Girls services like in Ratchada, Nataree, etc?
Thanks before[/QUOTE]You're welcome. Perhaps you might find one or more of the following helpful.
1} Don't have sex. As Steve Martin said "Don't have sex man. It leads to kissing and pretty soon you have to start talking to them." Seriously, though, sex activities like anal or genital intercourse, BBBJ's, DATY, DFK, BLS, AR, all put one at risk of contracting HIV. Even getting a non sexual massage from those girls poses a risk, so maybe just play with yourself while looking at their naked bods.
2} If you decide to have sex anyway, and like to use condoms, learn which one will be right for you, such as not too tight so that it breaks or so loose that it slips off inside the pussy during the act. Learn how to put it on correctly, even in the dark when you are stoned, hammered or wasted. I've had condoms burst or get eaten by a pussy many times, which leads us to door number three, below.
3} If you prefer BB sex, then maybe that's because you like sex better that way, so are willing to take the increased risk of getting STDs. According to Opebo, if I recall, HIV has difficulty with water based lubricants. So use plenty of KY, I guess, if you can believe this. BTW, I'm not sure if the same would apply to oils like corn and olive, but these are great for playing with yourself because they are far less expensive and more longlasting than the typical store bought sex lubes. Bear in mind, though, that oil and water don't mix. As for oil and HIV, I have no clue. And I don't know if it's a good idea to fill a vagina with things one cooks with or spermicides, although some girls are happy to put cucumbers, carrots, bottles and stickshifts in there.
4} I've heard oil shouldn't be applied to condoms, whether on the outside or inside, as it makes them break down. The question then is whether the risks of break down as it pertains to HIV is more or less than the advantages, if any, gained by having oil acting as a protective barrier.
5} Re having sex as in 2 and 3 above, you can increase your chances of avoiding HIV in many ways. For example by choosing a girl who is a virgin, a newbie to hooking and MP's, not a drug or needle user, or one who has tested negative for the disease, etc. Likewise if you can reduce the friction during intercourse, for example by getting a lady with a very big hole, by cumming in less than one minute, or using lots of lube such as KY. Also it might be a good idea to not have sex with girls on the their period.
Hope that helped. Best of luck.
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"I practice safe sex. I use an airbag." Garry Shandling
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1169646]Use condoms.[/QUOTE]Every thing covered, or at least as much as possible. I have never had a condom break and I always pay attention if it's starting to slide down. Condoms should stop contaminating everything that's covered.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1163952]I am getting a few messages asking where to go to get tested.
SUKHUMVIT 11 CLINIC.
1/31 soi 11, sukhumvit road (It is in the small sub-soi across from Ambassador hotel, on the left where Sabai Sabai Massage is)
Mon-Fri 9am to 7pm.
Sat 10am to 4pm.
They Offer:
- Medical Service.
- VD Check up.
- Blood tests.
- Anti-HIV (Aids)
- Vaccinations.
- Innfluenza Vaccine.
- Anti Rabies Vaccine.
- Hep A & B Vaccine.
- Medical Certificate for Work Permit or Driving License.
I went there and did Blood tests (VD Check) + Swabs and got the claps.
The whole cost (with Medicine + Injection) was 3, 000 thb.[/QUOTE]That is not that much cheaper than Bumrungrad, why bother with a small clinic when there is a full blown hospital.
[QUOTE=NowInBangkok; 1169569]Anyone have any tips on how to avoid HIV aids when using Bangkok Massage Parlors Girls services like in Ratchada, Nataree, etc?
Thanks before[/QUOTE]Step 1. Go to Sukhumvit, buy a few adult DVDs.
Step 2. On the way back to your hotel, smile back at all the girls.
Step 3. If you come across a tuktuk, taxi driver etc showing you cards and inviting you to go to "sexy show" just smile at them and ask " Do you have men? I am gay"
Step 4. If you come across a Massage parlour. Do not step inside. Keep your mind, heart, soul and dick straight. Head straight back to the hotel.
Step 5. Once inside your room, close everything, doors, windows, curtains.
Step 6. Do not let the moaning in the next room distract and get on with your mission.
Step 7. Start the DVD.
Step 8. Jack off.
Step 9. Check out of hotel next day.
Step 10. Head to airport
Step 11. Congratulations. You did it, You are safe!
Too many here self loathing and lecturing about HIV / STD's. All these percentages and copies of articles.
What is your thinking. Let's see. I have fucked 1999 times BB. Gee, I am OK, because I have not hit 2000.
It may be the first time, or it may not happen after 5,000 times.
Bottom line: Is it possible to get an STD or HIV from BB sex at any time? Answer: YES.
BB sex is only 10X more risky for HIV than BBBJs? Can that be right?
"Estimated per-act risk for acquisition of HIV by exposure route."
"Estimated infections per 10, 000 exposures to an infected source."
"Insertive penile-vaginal intercourse. 5.
"Man being fellated. 0.5.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV[/url]
See "transmission" section.
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"Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent." R Laing.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1178113]BB sex is only 10X more risky for HIV than BBBJs? Can that be right?
"Estimated per-act risk for acquisition of HIV by exposure route."
"Estimated infections per 10, 000 exposures to an infected source."
"Insertive penile-vaginal intercourse. 5.
"Man being fellated. 0.5.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV[/url]
See "transmission" section.
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"Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent." R Laing.[/QUOTE]BBBJ you can catch herpes I, and bacterial infections such as the Gonorrhea / clap and guanaria. You'd have to have blood in the mouth to catch HIV that way, so almost no chance I think. Same with DFK. There aare STD charts around, the San Francisco clinic has one on their website.
[QUOTE=TravelCollector;1178950]BBBJ you can catch herpes I, and bacterial infections such as the Gonorrhea / clap and guanaria. You'd have to have blood in the mouth to catch HIV that way, so almost no chance I think. Same with DFK. There aare STD charts around, the San Francisco clinic has one on their website.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that.
Who would have thunk?
[QUOTE=]From what I've heard, although the HIV coctail prolongs HIV patients lives, it also can have some nasty side affects like high blood pressure. And it can cause very high cholesteral. And many will ultimately die of heart attacks from the drug itself before they get past stage 3.[/QUOTE]I don't know if that's true or what the stats are on that, but I think this description would be much more applicable to the average American diet.
Although such a diet "prolongs lives", it can also have "some nasty side effects like high blood pressure. And it can cause very high cholesteral. And many will ultimately die of heart attacks" from the food itself.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1184871]I don't know if that's true or what the stats are on that, but I think this description would be much more applicable to the average American diet.
Although such a diet "prolongs lives", it can also have "some nasty side effects like high blood pressure. And it can cause very high cholesteral. And many will ultimately die of heart attacks" from the food itself.[/QUOTE]Good point. 50 million Americans are now considered Obese.
[QUOTE=Cwomd; 1187257]BTW. I did some research, and I found out that there's a different strain of HIV in Thailand. Barebacking sex workers has a risk as high as 1 in 300 of catching HIV.
The american HIV is more based on blood as in from gay / anal sex, which is why only 10% HIV+ in America is hetero. Here it's 80% HIV+ are hetero.
The infection rate from the HIV strain in America is 1 in 500-1000. Here it's 1 in 30-50. 2% thai are HIV+, but for sex workers it's 10% or more.
10% * 1 in 30 = 1 in 300.
[url]http://thailandguru.com/hiv-aids-thailand.html[/url][/QUOTE]Interesting link, but what I've been reading on the subject does not agree with a number of things you've posted above.
As regards the notion that the HIV-E strain dominant in Thailand is much more potent or far easier to catch than the HIV-B strain dominant in America, some more recent studies than that your source referred to did not support that theory.
The estimates for HIV infection in Siam I've been seeing are not your figure of 2 percent, but around 1% {0. 67-1. 5%} of the population. Even if we go with the high 10% number you gave for P4P TG's, consider the following comment:
"If we take Degan's number of 1/2000, and use 10% infection in the target group (and that is probably too large, but we'll go with it) , we arrive at 13, 862. 6 sexual encounters to have a 50% probability of infection. That's a different partner every single day for about 38 years, and then it is only even money you are infected."
IMO once BBing a random Thai sex worker would have a far lower risk probability for getting HIV than your rate of 1 in 300. I believe that is way off even if she is known to have the disease, so consider how much more wrong it is when you give that as a figure for a random BB encounter, that is, one with a P4P TG of unknown HIV status. According to Wikipedia under HIV transmission the risk is estimated at 1 in 2000 for an act of vaginal sex with a HIV positive female.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV[/url]
"I think the high rate of hetero infection in Thailand is simply due to the fact it is a more promiscuous society. The sex industry is so pervasive, there is simply more extramarital activity occuring. It remains to be proven that Subtype E is any more invasive. The fact that it has not become more prevalent in the West after many years contradicts the theory.
"Seems like a reach to me. Have they accounted for how huge the sex trade is in Thailand, needle use in Thailand. This is just a thought, but in the beginning, aids was thought of as a homosexual disease. Segregation between the orientations kept the spread to homosexuals for a long time. Would it not be hard to believe that hiv had its root in heterosexual sex in Thailand and that segregation again slows the transmission to the homosexual population, which could account for the 80% prevalence in heterorsexuals. I don't know, I just don't see that statistic as proof that E type is more transmissionable then B type"
"I figure that if there is any difference in reported HIV transmission route here in Thailand is probably more likely down to people not answering truthfully questions on how they got the virus. Can't Imagine that many Thais admitting to anal sex, gay sex or injecting drug use. Besides how would it account for the fact that HIV cases in Thailand are 70%+ males? Especially when it's far easier for women to catch than men.
"He rambles about how much easier subtype E is to acquire compared to other clades. If that was the case, it would have become dominant worldwide a long time ago! It doesn't make sense. The reason HIV is predominantly heterosexual in Thailand is same as why HIV is heterosexual in Africa. Rampant prostitution with low condom usage. Why look for complex answers when you have an obvious one? This guy may be a guru, but he doesn't sound anything like an HIV expert to me.
"Female to male transmission occurs more readily if the man is uncircumcized". In Thailand only 13% are circumcised, most of these Muslims. In the USA and Canada 70 and 30 percent are reported as being circumcised.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision[/url]
"This study basically says that they should look for other reasons why strain E is spreading so fast in South East Asia."
[url]http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/reprint/71/10/8001.pdf[/url]
I've been a member here for years and never noticed these areas before, where there is tons of useful and interesting info:
Under the section "Special Interests" see "Safe Sex".
Under the heading "Opinions and Editorials" see "AIDS".
Both of these can be found at the following link:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forum.php[/url]
In the categories listed above there are also a number of other excellent topics that one might want to check out.