FKK Dietzenbach

[QUOTE=Wanking;2059979]Dana said something to me which made me chuckle when I was there a few weeks ago.

I went to lick her brown hole in the room and she stopped me and said "I don't allow it", when I asked her why she replied "because you are licking every girls ass everyday".

I laughed and explained I wished that was the case but sometimes months pass between me licking arses. She didn't seem to believe me LOL.[/QUOTE]What is the pleasure to lick the ass of a prostitute? I hope she paid for it.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2059882]Elsewhere in a longer post I explained why this law is unenforcible. The short version is that there is no scenario where the cops can get involved based on something stronger than he-said-she-said. And with second languages involved at that. In fact there is no incentive for the operators or girls to get the cops involved, and the notion they will come bursting through the doors, or use nude policewomen, is at most a bizarre fantasy.

What an unenforcible law like this depends on is irrational fear. Those fears will soon dampen. Open discussion is a good way to make that happen faster.[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone disagrees with the main point you are making, and have made many times. Nobody expects the law to be easily enforced.

Similarly no one seriously expects the clubs or girls to bring in the authorities: that is a straw man argument

The point which you have not discussed is that the main FKK clubs do not want to be the target of action by the authorities for any reason, so they are therefore keen on ensuring that the girls are seen to obey the law, and that the clubs are seen to be trying to obey the law. If a club is seen to be openly encouraging illegal actions like BBBJ then the authorities have an extra opportunity to raid them.

Reporting here and in other forums without regard to this is, in my opinion, likely to speed the demise of BBBJ. It's not a question of censorship or freedom of speech, more a question of what is pragmatic.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2060019]I don't think anyone disagrees with the main point you are making, and have made many times. Nobody expects the law to be easily enforced.

Similarly no one seriously expects the clubs or girls to bring in the authorities: that is a straw man argument

The point which you have not discussed is that the main FKK clubs do not want to be the target of action by the authorities for any reason, so they are therefore keen on ensuring that the girls are seen to obey the law, and that the clubs are seen to be trying to obey the law. If a club is seen to be openly encouraging illegal actions like BBBJ then the authorities have an extra opportunity to raid them.

Reporting here and in other forums without regard to this is, in my opinion, likely to speed the demise of BBBJ. It's not a question of censorship or freedom of speech, more a question of what is pragmatic.[/QUOTE]Indeed, that is the whole issue, and also how it works in real now in many German Clubs (as I wrote here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=2060040&viewfull=1#post2060040[/URL]). Better stop speculation how it could / should / might be, and just see how the new law effects things. Pity but true already after 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2059897]The problem (or not depending on your perspective) is that 99% of people in Germany are good citizens. They can pump gas and actually be trusted to pay after they fill up. Can you imagine if it was like that in the USA? People would be stealing gas left and right. Plus I have never seen anyone litter in Germany, and most people follow the law to the best they can. So probably a lot of girls will just be following it just because regardless of the unenforceability.[/QUOTE]Maybe. But how many of the girls at FKK's are German? At Dietzenbach virtually all of the girls are Romanian, and they don't magically change cultural values when they cross the border.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2060049]Indeed, that is the whole issue, and also how it works in real now in many German Clubs (as I wrote here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=2060040&viewfull=1#post2060040[/URL]). Better stop speculation how it could / should / might be, and just see how the new law effects things. Pity but true already after 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]True, nothing can beat empirical evidence. I'm hearing from guys still getting AO at Dietzenbach w / o any problem.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2060090]Maybe. But how many of the girls at FKK's are German? At Dietzenbach virtually all of the girls are Romanian, and they don't magically change cultural values when they cross the border.[/QUOTE]True, Romanians are lax when it comes to laws. But when you have a job that allows you to make 10 times what you could make back home, you don't want to lose your job. So you will follow the rules set forth by German brothel operators.

[QUOTE=Wanking;2059979]Dana ... I went to lick her brown hole in the room and she stopped me and said "I don't allow it", when I asked her why she replied "because you are licking every girls ass everyday".[/QUOTE]So sad.

Some girls refuse to kiss you again after you have licked their brown hole.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2060019]Similarly no one seriously expects the clubs or girls to bring in the authorities: that is a straw man argument[/QUOTE]But is it possible if one club is enforcing the regulations thoroughly and become aware that other clubs aren't, they could raise the matter with the authorities?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2060094]True, Romanians are lax when it comes to laws. But when you have a job that allows you to make 10 times what you could make back home, you don't want to lose your job. So you will follow the rules set forth by German brothel operators.[/QUOTE]That's not what I'm hearing via backchannels from guys actually going there.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2060099]But is it possible if one club is enforcing the regulations thoroughly and become aware that other clubs aren't, they could raise the matter with the authorities?[/QUOTE]It is. That's part of my argument nobody wants to listen to or understand.

HB.

What if each club started a private membership and that way it would not be a public prostitution establishment? Each person at the door would register as a private member and they would not be subject to random LE checks that way.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2060118]It is. That's part of my argument nobody wants to listen to or understand.

HB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2060106]That's not what I'm hearing via backchannels from guys actually going there.[/QUOTE]Haha. Thought I was back in the General Info thread, so was speaking in general terms, about some club operators clamping down on "illegal" services.

By most peoples' optics standards, RTC clubs can't compete with mainstream ones, so it makes sense that they would be the last club to give up their "competitive advantage". The ways things are going, Dietzenbach may see some increased traffic. I am sure the local Germans will thank you when their WGs start upselling.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2060128]What if each club started a private membership and that way it would not be a public prostitution establishment? Each person at the door would register as a private member and they would not be subject to random LE checks that way.[/QUOTE]Will not work out. It may be a workaround for bars to eliminate the non-smoking policies, but not for FKK clubs. There are new and stricter rules for them as well with the new law, and hiding behing a "private club" label will not be accepted. My pov. Maybe one of them will try it out.

HB.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2060098]So sad.

Some girls refuse to kiss you again after you have licked their brown hole.[/QUOTE]Not unreasonable, is it?! Would you want to DFK a girl after she does rimming? Even if she did that just on you it gives a pause. But if she is a girl who is known to rim most guys as part of a normal sssion, then I am sure guys would think twice before DFKing her, no?

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2060411]Not unreasonable, is it?! Would you want to DFK a girl after she does rimming? Even if she did that just on you it gives a pause. But if she is a girl who is known to rim most guys as part of a normal sssion, then I am sure guys would think twice before DFKing her, no?[/QUOTE]IMO, There should be 2 schools of DFK ethics, either you never DFK a girl (as 99.9% of the girls had either a penis / balls / asshole in their mouth at any point in their life, and in an FKK you can bet they did have something in their mouth even today.), or You DFK a girl like no tomorrow regardless of her history, choose a side that's it.

Seperatig the girls to a girl that do rimjob frequently and a girl that do it less commenly for DFK criteria is worthless IMO, because it's subjective and you never really know the frequency that girl for rimming.

Lastly whg would you fear a girl that rim other guy to rim you? If they washed their mouth with something lime antiseptic that's more than enough in my book, medically speaking the risk to get anything serious from that is near to zero, you might get gastroentritis (if she didn't properly wash up) and that's it, so we are only fearing to DFK a rimmer because it's our childhood instincts (aka [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] = YUUUKY).

Tbh you should avoid a penis giver more than a solo rim giver, as the former has theoretically more risk to acquire STD like herpes / HPV / Gono (although not common but can happen).

So just enjoy DFKing a rimmer if she is beautiful, and YOLO.