February 21,2023 at 4:00 am ET stay tuned.
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February 21,2023 at 4:00 am ET stay tuned.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2790852]Zelensky is a major reason Ukraine's not only still standing but winning.
If he did leave Kiev when offered a ride by the USA Diplomats, the scene would've been different. It wouldn't have quelled the resistance, but the aggressor might've taken the capital.
No kidding the putinists hate this comedian. He personifies all heir troubles.[/QUOTE]Ukraine would have the right to resist invasion no matter who was leading them. It makes the anti-Ukraine, pro-Russia crowd feel better if they can caricature and criticize. Those are the same kinds of people who were quick to point out flaws in Churchill, Gen. Grant, etc. However they try to rationalize things, they're attack dogs, pure and simple.
Proof was asked of Questner and of course none was given aside from propaganda via political cartoon. Ukraine like much of post Cold War Eastern Europe wants to be free, and proves it every day with their personal sacrifices and blood on the battlefield. As a result they like several other nations in the region have asked for integration and protection from the bear. Occam's razor, and it's far from rocket science. Russia's playing the victim while blaming the victim is smoke and mirrors.
And no one told thousands of people who took the Munich streets today that it's "pretty much over" and there is "no interest in war in Ukraine. " Why, oh why?
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2790950]And no one told thousands of people who took the Munich streets today that it's "pretty much over" and there is "no interest in war in Ukraine. " Why, oh why?[/QUOTE]That's a photo of a small counter protest to the thousands of antiwar protesters in Munich. Liar.
[QUOTE=Riina;2790864]The day is coming for the gangster clown to flee. Do you think he has LV or Gucci luggage filled with cash, ready to go?[/QUOTE]You mean like the President of Afghanistan when he left and money was falling out of his helicopter. No. This will be much worse. Zelenskyy will need a fleet of cargo planes to haul off his cash. I'm sure his wife is picking out premier villas around the world.
[QUOTE=Riina;2791031]That's a photo of a small counter protest to the thousands of antiwar protesters in Munich. Liar.[/QUOTE]You seem to be thoroughly confused. Allow me to help.
Antiwar protest IS an anti-Russia protest by definition. Russia started this war.
The protest in my photo WAS an antiwar protest.
When we will see the day when the jester replays May 10,1941 flight into Scotland? Meanwhile let's sing to the beloved tune: [URL]https://youtu.be/gPpOJvm6998[/URL].
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2791090]You mean like the President of Afghanistan when he left and money was falling out of his helicopter. No. This will be much worse. Zelenskyy will need a fleet of cargo planes to haul off his cash. I'm sure his wife is picking out premier villas around the world.[/QUOTE]What that lame theory fails to explain is why he didn't leave immediately after the invasion. At that point Ukraine's supporters were few and far between, and mostly offered encouragement and prayers rather than weapons.
Among Putin's reported objectives were things like capturing or assassinating govt officials, with Zelensky obviously being the top prize. And yet, at that most opportune moment to flee, when no one would have faulted him, he chose to stay and said he needed ammunition, not a ride.
Had he fled, he could have set up a "government in exile" somewhere nice and safe, while raking in millions in donations. He didn't, and he hasn't, which is a giant poke in the eye to all those suffering from terminal Zelensky Derangement Syndrome.
Those who make the mistake of personalizing this conflict and making everything about Zelensky (or Putin) miss the obvious fact that if either of them dropped dead tomorrow, nothing would change. Any new leader of Ukraine would ABSOLUTELY need to continue defending that country. The Ukrainian people would demand it. And any new Soviet (oops, I mean Russian) leader would either continue fighting, from sheer inertia, or maybe start to roll things back.
The problem with that latter course is that for Russia to have spent so much in resources and lives, without any semblance of victory, would be hugely humiliating and destabilizing. What would become of Russia after that is anybody's guess. The new leader might try to blame everything on Putin, but that's such a radical change of direction that it could very well backfire and fracture or crash the system.
And, if Russia starts to destabilize, even around the edges, the vultures are already hovering and ready to carve off a piece for themselves. Keep an eye on Kadyrov and Lukashenko, for example. Both are survivors and will do whatever they can to avoid going down with the (Moskva) ship.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2791090]You mean like the President of Afghanistan when he left and money was falling out of his helicopter. No. This will be much worse. Zelenskyy will need a fleet of cargo planes to haul off his cash. I'm sure his wife is picking out premier villas around the world.[/QUOTE]Once thing is for sure, if representation in this forum is any indicator there's a high percentage of men who pay for sex who also have their heads up between Putin's butt cheeks. The same also are often angry at the USA, blaming the same for their life failings as they failed to grasp hold of the dream, and often find themselves expats in 3rd World shitholes.
Zelensky will be staying in Kyiv while Russia will continue to fail until an agreement is reached where the security of Ukraine is assured. And once again, Russia is far more corrupt than Ukraine based on credible measures, Ukraine 61 score out of 100, Russia 19. While Ukraine has made a lot of progress in that area in the last nine years.
[URL]https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores[/URL]
Well, the USA Says it's not entirely accurate, LOL.
[B]Biden Went to Kyiv Because There's No Going Back.[/B]
[QUOTE]He's the American president. He made an unprecedented trip to a war zone, one where there are no U.S. troops to protect him. And, yes, hes old. But he went anyway.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/biden-trip-ukraine-kyiv/673134[/URL]
Sorry comrades.
Scareface has got a competitor, now we know why Mexican border remains open.
[QUOTE]Together, weve committed nearly 700 tanks and thousands of armored vehicles, 1,000 artillery systems, more than 2 million rounds of artillery ammunition, more than 50 advanced launch rocket systems, anti-ship and air defense systems, all defend U- to defend Ukraine. And that doesnt count the other half a billion dollars were going to be were announcing with you today and tomorrow thats going to be coming your way. And thats just the United States, in this piece.
And just today, that announcement includes artillery ammunition for HIMARS and howitzers, more Javelins, anti-armor systems, air surveillance radars thatll protect Ukrainian people from aerial bombardments.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2023/02/20/remarks-by-president-biden-and-president-zelenskyy-of-ukraine-in-joint-statement/[/URL]
Oh and you know the carnivals all over Europe feature one familiar image.
Why again has no one told those people that it's "pretty much over" and there is "no interest in war in Ukraine"?
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2790852]Zelensky is a major reason Ukraine's not only still standing but winning.
.[/QUOTE]The gangster clown is a perfect tool of the en aye zeez. His calculation is that Ruski are unlikely to kill him as he's not a true strongman and only a coked up puppet with an all cash exit strategy.
[QUOTE=Riina;2792451]The gangster clown is a perfect tool of the en aye zeez. His calculation is that Ruski are unlikely to kill him as he's not a true strongman and only a coked up puppet with an all cash exit strategy.[/QUOTE]If Zelensky dropped dead tomorrow, or was removed, Ukraine would fight on. If Putin dropped dead tomorrow, or was removed, there's no guarantee Russia would cease its aggression.
Russia's national psyche is such that they truly believe they're superior and entitled to dominate "lesser" countries and races. Putin is simply the current vessel for Russia's imperialist impulses. If it hadn't been him, it would have been somebody else.
The only way Russia will experience an attitude "adjustment" is if they are comprehensively defeated. If you don't give a bully a bloody nose, he'll just keep on coming.
P.S. Your "exit strategy" hypothesis has already been debunked. As I posted earlier, he had every opportunity to leave when the invasion first happened. He could have formed a "government in exile," played the victim card, and everyone would have lauded him and showered him with donations. The exit door was WIDE open and many were urging him to walk through it, and yet he didn't. So you might want to come with a new line of bullshit, since that one doesn't cut it for anyone outside the Putin butt-boy crowd.