Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2150141]True I don't know why Annie's closed and it seems S. Neither do you. If it's true as you say they were making money sure it could relate to sanitation issues. Problem with this scenario is why close for good, simply sort out the plumbing.
[/QUOTE]I don't know if the venue is easily fixable, since they did not own it I believe.

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Citing that Chrome and the Wood didn't have to close is irrelevant[/QUOTE]Of course it is relevant to the reason for shut down.

[QUOTE]Nataree and Victoria's not withstanding neither which were closed for sanitation reasons which other venue across town has been shut down for sanitation reasons?[/QUOTE]We know that Nataree was shut down for other reasons. Victoria I know nothing at all. I don't know if any other venues are bad enough that they were already shut down or will be. I thought we were talking about Annies specifically.

I expect the current administration will find any excuse they see fit to shut down certain places. There are several possible reasons to force a closure.

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I feel S. Your assumption that had a regular customer base may not reflect the reality of the decline there in recent years for the reasons often mentioned on this forum.

Recent posts for the Soi 7/1 shops have been at best mixed. Really don't understand why management cannot copy the model of the successful shops on 24, 26 and 33. Perhaps you have an opinion on this.[/QUOTE]You seem confirm the idea that Chrome might have had significantly less customers than Annies. I go by own observations of numbers of customers turning up at times I went there. Annies was the busiest in my experience. Yes I have not attended in very recent times.

The busiest MP shop I attended on Suk (Most customers reviewing the girls at the time) was probably Addict, yet that was only marginal over several guys showing up at Annies at one time. I don't attend often enough to do definitive surveys. I just give my impressions. I don't know much about many places, however even Mitu was not busy at time I happened to go there. The customer are obviously very dependent on what time one shows up.

There is little doubt to me that The Lord was a lot busier than Annies. LOL.

As you would know, I always considered Annies to be a hybrid between Oily and Soapy models. What things about Oilies on 24,26, and 33 are worth copying I would not know, and don't really try to think about. I don't have any favourite MP. I tend to find favourite girls at times, in spite of the shop itself.

The priority to fix up Annies in my opinion, would have been firstly to improve the rooms, or move to a premises with less cost overheads, and get more pretty girls (this one applies to any shop). I am sure the owners focus would be on profitability which is different, employing girls willing to work for a lower cut.

I do challenge you to put forward your own counter theory, as to what is the likely reason for closure, that fits all the information available to us, which I admit is definitely very limited. My theory was not totally my own supposition, but I never claimed to know anything for certain. Just propose what makes logical sense.

[QUOTE=Vodkin;2150033]Anyone knows if Eden Club (Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 near BTS Nana Station) is still open? Their website has been off air lately. Just wondering if they are still in business.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. A lot of changes happening on this Soi "Siap Dtuut".

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2150539]
I do challenge you to put forward your own counter theory, as to what is the likely reason for closure, that fits all the information available to us, which I admit is definitely very limited. My theory was not totally my own supposition, but I never claimed to know anything for certain. Just propose what makes logical sense.[/QUOTE]I'm no political expert on Thailand, but applying some basic logic and it's easy enough to work out the reason for the decline. Economic development and progress is the major threat to the sex industry, not just in Thailand, but also in the Philippines, Vietnam and Cambodia.

1. Thailand has 0% unemployment and there is a major shortage of labor. Wages are on the rise. The average gogo dancer makes about THB 25,000 a month and a good non-barfining coyote makes THB 30,000 + a month. Compare this to the salary of even a junior OL who makes about THB 70,000 and you can understand that girls don't need to be sex workers. There are better jobs around paying the same or more (even for someone without a college degree), so bars struggle to find girls.

2. Land values. Rising real estate values in BKK make it unaffordable for tenants (who operate bars and massage parlours) to keep paying steep rents. Owners are better off redeveloping their sites for other commercial / retail / residential purposes. I would think that in 10 years' time, the bars in Patpong, Nana and Cowboy would be in danger because the land is too valuable. Better yields are available for high-rise developments. The same goes for P. Burgos Street in the middle of Makati, Manila.

3. Thailand is keen to rid itself of its reputation for vice and as a destination for sex tourism. The sex industry catering for foreigners makes up a tiny portion of Thailand's economy, so if it were to be phased out, it would not impact on its GDP in any way. I'm speculating here, but some of the foreign aid which Thailand receives from left-leaning, do-gooder nations (like Sweden, Norway and Canada) might be conditional on the country showing progress in cleaning up the sex trade. There is an unfortunate misconception in the west that bar girls in Thailand are still forced to work against their will and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] sex is common. There are powerful feminists groups in the west which would like to see their demise.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2150478]I am wondering what would going rate for having an hour long, 1 shot threesome at some of the well known parlours like Snow white, mango, all stars etc? Don't really need girls to be lesbo but enthusiastic orgy is a must. Any recommendations for any pairs and Is there any possibility to get some discounts before noon or late in the night after 10 PM?

I also have one more question. Which venues offer best chance to hear and enjoy going-ONS in neighboring cubicles? I have fond memories of banging girls in SW and 2/3 other similar places where one could hear the "boom boom" next door. Sometimes it acts as a fantastic mood enhancer.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I've had a few 3 somes in Mango, SW etc. In fact I think I took 4 girls one time in Mango.

The problem with 3 or moresomes is the messing about changing condoms all the time. I don't think I'll bother with 3 somes any more.

Hi guys,

Don't know if this is the right place to ask this.

I'll be visiting Bangkok for 4 days starting from March 28th. Any advice on how find girls to have some fun. If I'm not mistaken Zip code given to me where I stay is 10400.

Traveling with a friend (male). Would like to know if it's possible to have threesome or take out 2 girls.

What are the costs involved?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=JasonX33;2150939]Hi guys,

Don't know if this is the right place to ask this.

I'll be visiting Bangkok for 4 days starting from March 28th. Any advice on how find girls to have some fun. If I'm not mistaken Zip code given to me where I stay is 10400.

Traveling with a friend (male). Would like to know if it's possible to have threesome or take out 2 girls.

What are the costs involved?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]You can find this zip code on Google Maps easily enough showing Phaya Thai, Din Daeng and Ratchathewi. There are a hell of a lot of massage shops in this area especially the Ratchada Soapy massage joints. Yes you can take 2 or more girls in a Soapy MP. Does mean you will get any interaction between girls or have a great time. I never did it in Soapy MPs, or was not good enough to put in memory banks.

Many of us would suggest there are better places to select two girls, where good girl interaction is possible. Some suggest Eden on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. I used to suggest getting girls from the Lesbian show at Suzie Wong on Soi Cowboy, and found it fun enough to repeat many times (when I was younger stronger and could tolerate condom changes LOL). I can't currently recommend this bar after a take over.

I do intend to get a threesome again soon. I have two Shark girls in mind who used to work at Suzie W and know each other very well indeed. I have already got kisses from both concurrently, like 3 tongues together. They will know what to do and not be too shy hopefully. Actually one of the 2, previously went with me in a multi girl takeout. Having threesomes from a bar is expensive since you have to pay the BF for both girls and pay a ST session fee to each. Probably one reason I hardly do it any more is the cost. Minimum of 6000 Baht and possibly more spent including ST Hotel and drinks. I know Natty takes 2 girls from Crazy House and from other venues. I hope he does not mind me saying so since I am sure was revealed before.

Eden cost for 2 girls is probably lower, but I found sessions there to be very fake, obvious acting, and girls putting on strap-ONS did nothing for me. Too scripted. I like to make non-scripted stuff.

It's possible to be a really great time, and possible to be disappointing. You have to get girls that like each other, are not shy, and have experience already doing this type of thing. Newbie shy girls is not going to work. Girls need to think of it as a sex party to have fun and enjoy while they all make money.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2150554]I'm no political expert on Thailand, but applying some basic logic and it's easy enough to work out the reason for the decline. [/QUOTE]Decline of what exactly? We were talking about a specific reason to have been closed down (the busiest shop of 3), not so much general decline of the Sex Industry (which I don't contest at all).

It's not clear to me if you are trying to say the place had not enough customers. It is very unlikely to fit in this case.

A few places still manage to do good business where most places struggle to have enough customers.

I've read some recent bad posts about this place so YMMV but I just had a fine experience at Poseidon. Was quoted 3100 for girl on the right and 3500 for girl on the left. (I'm American.). There were maybe 15 girls on the right and 2 on the left. The ones on the left were on the left because they had big boobs I think.

I checked out Floor 3 but just as I arrived a group of literally 10 Japanese guys came and scooped all but one up. Agree that there's nothing super special about them to merit high high prices.

Mamasan said that the one who was smiling the most just got there. She was hot, good enough for me. Paid 3100 and off. Standard rooms are okay but nothing to write home about. She delivered good BBBJ without asking and was very accommodating and nice. I'd definitely come here again.

Again, YMMV and I am sure there are cheaper options of similar or better quality.

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After my first shot, she started saying that she would give me another go, if I left the moment I came, no matter how much time I had left. I was a bit disappointed because I would not get the full amount of time I paid for (I understand they don't want to give more than 2 shots, but I would have liked to relax for a bit), but didn't bother arguing much because that would simply make it even worse. By the end of it, I wasn't even in the mood, and settled for a BJ and HJ to quickly scram out of there.

Will not be visiting Orient Massage again.[/QUOTE]I don't go to there anymore because they lie about not having babies and try to finish the session before the time is up.

First thing is she's considerably less attractive in real life than in the photos on the website but she's reasonably good looking although showing her age a bit. Her pussy has been described as perfect but to me it was just a normal one with lips that are a bit too big for my tastes. She has a big arse which is nice for a change compared to most Thai girls, but the legs are a bit stocky so don't expect the full Brazilian bubble butt look.

Goatscrot has commented that she can't keep focussed for long on any one thing but this is a total understatement. She can't keep focused on anything at all for more than a few seconds. She's really scatterbrained, doing things like talking to herself in the mirror, fidgeting and changing positions every few seconds. I found it all quite off-putting. She's not A+ but did let me put a finger up there, which was the main positive. Her blow job skills are not good and she gave up after a few seconds so I had to tell her to continue.

If she just behaved reasonably normally I would repeat but couldn't tolerate her personality quirks again so won't.

[QUOTE=*****man;2151220]First thing is she's considerably less attractive in real life than in the photos on the website but she's reasonably good looking although showing her age a bit. Her pussy has been described as perfect but to me it was just a normal one with lips that are a bit too big for my tastes. She has a big arse which is nice for a change compared to most Thai girls, but the legs are a bit stocky so don't expect the full Brazilian bubble butt look.

Goatscrot has commented that she can't keep focussed for long on any one thing but this is a total understatement. She can't keep focused on anything at all for more than a few seconds. She's really scatterbrained, doing things like talking to herself in the mirror, fidgeting and changing positions every few seconds. I found it all quite off-putting. She's not A+ but did let me put a finger up there, which was the main positive. Her blow job skills are not good and she gave up after a few seconds so I had to tell her to continue.

If she just behaved reasonably normally I would repeat but couldn't tolerate her personality quirks again so won't.[/QUOTE]It's getting ridiculously hard to find good looking gals without kids who provide PSE service. It's a unicorn.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2151092]You can find this zip code on Google Maps easily enough showing Phaya Thai, Din Daeng and Ratchathewi. There are a hell of a lot of massage shops in this area especially the Ratchada Soapy massage joints. Yes you can take 2 or more girls in a Soapy MP. Does mean you will get any interaction between girls or have a great time. I never did it in Soapy MPs, or was not good enough to put in memory banks.

Many of us would suggest there are better places to select two girls, where good girl interaction is possible. Some suggest Eden on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. I used to suggest getting girls from the Lesbian show at Suzie Wong on Soi Cowboy, and found it fun enough to repeat many times (when I was younger stronger and could tolerate condom changes LOL). I can't currently recommend this bar after a take over.

I do intend to get a threesome again soon. I have two Shark girls in mind who used to work at Suzie W and know each other very well indeed. I have already got kisses from both concurrently, like 3 tongues together. They will know what to do and not be too shy hopefully. Actually one of the 2, previously went with me in a multi girl takeout. Having threesomes from a bar is expensive since you have to pay the BF for both girls and pay a ST session fee to each. Probably one reason I hardly do it any more is the cost. Minimum of 6000 Baht and possibly more spent including ST Hotel and drinks. I know Natty takes 2 girls from Crazy House and from other venues. I hope he does not mind me saying so since I am sure was revealed before..[/QUOTE]Thank you for this fine report.

[QUOTE=*****man;2151220]..... fidgeting and changing positions every few seconds. I found it all quite off-putting......[/QUOTE]No way I could nut in FS with a girl like that. In p4p I like to be the one to decide when to change positions and what position is to be assumed. CIM for her.

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(2. Land values. Rising real estate values in BKK make it unaffordable for tenants (who operate bars and massage parlours) to keep paying steep rents. Owners are better off redeveloping their sites for other commercial / retail / residential purposes. I would think that in 10 years' time, the bars in Patpong, Nana and Cowboy would be in danger because the land is too valuable. Better yields are available for high-rise developments. The same goes for P. Burgos Street in the middle of Makati, Manila.).

Nana Plaza is currently being developed. A new roof is being installed, at great cost, to cover the whole Plaza. It would appear that the owners consider there is a future for the bars despite some predicting their steady decline.