Jakarta

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2768759]I found out that you are right, and checking my notes; I paid 1 m and 1.3 m for st and LT in 2019.
Is Maribaya massage at Hotel Melawai closed? Is there similar places in the Blok-M area?[/QUOTE]

I arrived at Aquarius Massage at Melawai 9 (where it meets Melawai 7) at 4 pm. 615 k for 90 minutes. There were 14 girls available, the mamasan showed me the pictures and claimed that they were accurate. She said they have a show at 7 pm when you may see them all in person at once. Anyway, at the Mama's recommodation I chose Kikan (23). I was a good choice, she has a nice face and body. Good service: BBBJ CFS. But first it was the regular massage, which I don't care that much. The only issue was the lights in the room which hit me in eyes, somewhat annoying. Also note that Kikan has a peculiar way of acting and speaking, still good service, and a funny girl!

Jakarta Dec. 2022.

[QUOTE=TommySuharto;2768476]Nope. In as within. The new code will be applicable within 3 years. Not after 3 years.

The new law could still come under challenge in the courts, it's not set in stone yet.

Also. The offence can only be reported by a parent, spouse or child. The good news about that is that banging someone's wife will finally become an act of bravery. The bad news, it will inflate prices and add another way to the repertoire of scammers, many a tourist may get caught out in the rain.

But seriously, it's a stupid fundamentalist move, it will hurt tourism, people's rights (think about the LGBT community) and the economy.[/QUOTE]From what I'm reading you're spot on, which is exactly what we'd expect from Tommy Suharto. Nobody knows the practicalities of the Indonesian legal system better.

[QUOTE=Bienenstich;2768917]I'm going to be on the ground in half a month and could use some more info for lowest end lokalisasi places.

I have a rough idea of KI, royal gedong and tanahabang station area but lack manggarai, jatinegara and tanjung priuk. If I missed any other low end BBFS places which get pointed out to me that would be great too.[/QUOTE]Your best bet is to take a train or taxi to the general area the get yourself a motorcycle taxi. " Tolong antar saya ke tempat cewek yang murah".

IE get the train to Tanjung Priok station, jump off. Find a motorcycle ojek and ask to go to PLTU or to Batang Bulan or to the bars in Koja.

If you see a duck you're in the right spot.

Hope that helps.

OS.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2769160]From what I'm reading you're spot on, which is exactly what we'd expect from Tommy Suharto. Nobody knows the practicalities of the Indonesian legal system better.[/QUOTE]
The real Tommy Suharto (now 62yo ?), not in this ISG username, is a great fucker. who have tried many Indonesian good-looking young artists, movie stars. He was also named as the first person who asked Pfiser Indonesian to get the magic blue pill when Pfizer launched its blue pills a few years ago.
In the past it is suspected he is using his father protection, to protect his hobby. Now he is using his money allegedly stolen from the people to protect his habits. So when the new law is enforced he might be able to escape the full force of law??

[QUOTE=Adindas;2769318]The real Tommy Suharto (now 62yo ?), not in this ISG username, is a great fucker. who have tried many Indonesian good-looking young artists, movie stars. He was also named as the first person who asked Pfiser Indonesian to get the magic blue pill when Pfizer launched its blue pills a few years ago.
In the past it is suspected he is using his father protection, to protect his hobby. Now he is using his money allegedly stolen from the people to protect his habits. So when the new law is enforced he might be able to escape the full force of law??[/QUOTE]Tommy was convicted of arranging the assassination of a supreme court judge. He only spent four years in detainment, in a luxury jail cell, with trips to Malioboro and golf courses. So there's about zero chance he's going to spend a year in jail for fornicating.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Suharto[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2769381]Tommy was convicted of arranging the assassination of a supreme court judge. He only spent four years in detainment, in a luxury jail cell, with trips to Malioboro and golf courses. So there's about zero chance he's going to spend a year in jail for fornicating.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Suharto[/URL][/QUOTE]The story was that when he arrived at the prison he was warned by the warden that he would be treated exactly the same as all the other prisoners. He said he had no problem with that, and proceeded to take out his check book and paid for soft beds, curtains, TVs, DVD players, air conditioning and proper toilets, as well as take way food for every prisoner and cell in the prison. He's a see you ent tee but you have to admire his chutzpah.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2769147]I've been following the news on this, and the sources aren't consistent. I've read everything from the law will come into effect 30 days after Jokowi signs it, to only after three years. Bloomberg has done some good reporting on this, and I think their answer may be the best (see below). I'll show a couple of links below, but they may be behind a paywall. Some highlights -

Anyone engaged in sex outside of marriage may face up to one year in prison or fines.

[B]Police can only prosecute people based on official complaints made by their parent, child or spouse.[/B] Presumably this would prevent couples who are tourists from being prosecuted. An Indonesian Minister said "If people from Australia want to go on a holiday in Bali, and they want to stay in the same room whatsoever, that is their personal matter. Unless there's a complaint by their parents in Australia, which is not their culture."

The new law doesn't address prostitution, but banning extramarital sex effectively makes prostitution illegal.

There will be a three-year transition period until the law is [b]fully[/b] in place, as the government must draft implementing regulation..[/QUOTE]The first Bali cop who arrests an Aussie tourist for sex outside marriage will find himself unemployed by the end of his shift, we all know that, the cops know that and everyone in Bali knows that but the less well-informed tourists won't know that.

This will lead to countless opportunities to scam the unwary, any girl with a bit of nous and a boyfriend with a satpam uniform can set up the unwary. She goes back to his room, next thing there is a knock on the door. A "policeman" has got a complaint from the girl's husband and would the gentleman like to accompany me down to the station. No? Well maybe a couple of million cash could settle all this unpleasantness, I can give you a ride to the nearest ATM if you like.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2769482]He's a see you ent tee but you have to admire his chutzpah.[/QUOTE]Haha! It took me a couple of minutes to figure that out. Speaking of which, maybe I'm not the brightest bulb on the planet, because I didn't think of the following until you and our Tommy Suharto brought it up:

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2769509]This will lead to countless opportunities to scam the unwary, any girl with a bit of nous and a boyfriend with a satpam uniform can set up the unwary. She goes back to his room, next thing there is a knock on the door. A "policeman" has got a complaint from the girl's husband and would the gentleman like to accompany me down to the station. No? Well maybe a couple of million cash could settle all this unpleasantness, I can give you a ride to the nearest ATM if you like.[/QUOTE]That makes sense. In the past I've stayed at the Shangrila and Mulia, and mostly pulled freelancers from the bars in the hotels as well as from bars on Jalan Pelatehan in Blok M. Given the level of my paranoia, I may stick to places like Malio going forward, where the probability of a con would be minimal.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2769160]From what I'm reading you're spot on, which is exactly what we'd expect from Tommy Suharto. Nobody knows the practicalities of the Indonesian legal system better.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the praise. But they may as well bring back the real "see you ent tee". And place this hedonist at the helm. What will be the difference? The new proposed law does not hold up on moral grounds anyway.

It's disappointing to see that Jokowi does not follow through on his political promise to reduce the amount of suffocating red tape in Indonesia.

Looks like the Bali Governor has given the middle finger to the new criminal code.

[URL]https://www.afr.com/world/asia/bali-governor-promises-tourists-no-marriage-checks-20221212-p5c5mp[/URL]

[QUOTE=TommySuharto;2769733]Thank you for the praise. But they may as well bring back the real "see you ent tee". And place this hedonist at the helm. What will be the difference? The new proposed law does not hold up on moral grounds anyway.

It's disappointing to see that Jokowi does not follow through on his political promise to reduce the amount of suffocating red tape in Indonesia.[/QUOTE]Hell yeah! If they put the real Tommy in charge of Indonesia it'll be a wh*remonger's paradise!

Jokowi has been disappointing, but when it's one man against the system, the system's going to win.

Your post caused me to look up whatever happened to Basuki Tjahaja Purnama, also known as Ahok, a Jokowi acolyte. A Chinese Christian, he was an efficient governor and deputy governor of Jakarta. He was convicted of blasphemy based on a doctored video tape, and Jokowi wasn't able to do anything to help him avoid prison. He did however appoint Ahok as President Commissioner of Pertamina, the national oil company, upon his release. If Jokowi can't even keep Ahok out of jail on a trumped up charge, doing something substantial about the red tape must be next to impossible.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2769802]Looks like the Bali Governor has given the middle finger to the new criminal code.

[URL]https://www.afr.com/world/asia/bali-governor-promises-tourists-no-marriage-checks-20221212-p5c5mp[/URL][/QUOTE]Hopefully the same will happen in Jakarta! I don't want to get married to have sex.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2769973]Hopefully the same will happen in Jakarta! I don't want to get married to have sex.[/QUOTE]Some countries (like Iran) have corrupt officials where you can purchase a marriage for some short (very short) specified period of time LOL! Could blossom into a cottage industry in Indonesia hahaha!

I think this is one of the hidden gem. My local buddy brought me there last night as he mentioned it was popular with his circle of friends. It's located on the third floor of the building and the lift is actually tucked away behind the restaurant. When entering the lobby, walk to the right through the restaurant. You can only get to the third floor where the spa is located by using the right side of the left. We made the mistake of taking a different lift and since it did not stop on the 3rd floor, we have to get off the ground floor again to take the next one.

I was issued an elastic band with a number upon entering the spa. There were dipping pools and saunas, but we did not use the facility that night and instead went to the lounge. The lounge was pretty quiet since there is not much reason for anyone to hang around there. No band playing live music, no girls dancing on stage etc. It is just a waiting area for the mamasan to showcase their girls from their phones. At least when the mamasan showed me her girls, most of them were in the form of tiktok videos. I always hated photos that clearly showed heavy altering. Never know what the girls would look like, but in most cases probably ugly. However, with videos, even if they are filtered, I can formulate a better impression of how she would look like in person.

I got the mamasan to send me all her girls videos to my WhatsApp. One of the girl caught my attention and I ended up booking her. There are three different tiers to the girls. The Gold, The Pink and The Model priced at 450 K, 650 K and 1 Million respectively. The girl that I selected was in the Pink group.

I was shown to the room by the mamasan and waited for my selected girl to show. By the way, the setup of the room was actually unique. The bed was located in the middle of the room and has two metal railing at the head and the foot of the bed. I have no idea what they are intended. Is it for BDSM? Anyway, what I really liked about the room was all the mirrors. There were mirrors on the ceiling and the side wall. It reminded on the rooms in FKK Living Room in Germany. I get to see to my actions from different point of views and I have always like this kind of setup.

My selected girl turned out to be just like her video and she was friendly. She stripped naked before giving me the massage. Her boobs, oh how I like her boobs. They are natural and dense and felt so nice when they are fondled and squeezed on. After the massage, she asked if I would like to ML, short for Making Love. I said yes, and she asked me to get into the shower so she can wash me.

She was almost GFE with no problem kissing me. Gave me a decent BBJ and I asked her if she is willing to let me CIM. She said she ran out of Listerine. Maybe it was an excuse. I will see if I can cajole her to do so the next time I visit her again. She had a condom with her and I was able to come quickly as she was riding me. I think it was the combination of the massage, her service and the room setup with the mirror on the ceiling that made me come easily that night.

I will visit this spa again and may try out other girls to see if they are just as good.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2769977]Some countries (like Iran) have corrupt officials where you can purchase a marriage for some short (very short) specified period of time LOL! Could blossom into a cottage industry in Indonesia hahaha![/QUOTE]All these people from the Middle East do that all the time with the village girls in Indonesia. They would get into a marriage contract with the girls via their families for a certain period of time and then officially divorce them towards the end. That way, they can get around whatever sick religious bullshit morality law. It's still prostitution is another form, but these Arabs have money to burn and the head of the girls families are in desperate need of money to help with their debts.