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[QUOTE=RedKilt;2189585]YThere is no better way to destroy your holiday than to eat a "bad" oyster, even if the other 11 or 20 were delicious.[/QUOTE]After having seen the outcome of a friend's oyster food poisoning in Mexico once, I have never tried them again raw. And rarely cooked. He spend weeks recovering so if in doubt don't eat. Like RK I travel a lot and am very cautious as one bad food day can mean I suffer and can't work (or worse I am working and keep running out of the meeting room LOL).

If in doubt don't eat it. In India and Pakistan I avoid all salad even from the better hotels as similar to RK story. Also friend got sick at the Intercon sea food buffet (in Asia) eating crab. That ruined the whole trip and when she ate the crab was Day 2 of her journey.

A bad experience several years ago makes me apprehensive about oysters in the Philippines, even cooked ones. I went with eight or nine Filipino colleagues to a place on E. Rodriguez Avenue where it becomes C-5 in the Eastwood and Bagumbayan area in Quezon City. There was a sort of farmers' market with vegetables, seafood, and meat, and, after you selected your raw ingredients, a place next door would cook your food to order.

We had selected raw and cooked oysters, as well as shrimp, some meat and vegetables. Everything except the raw oysters was cooked. I avoided the raw oysters but was one of about a half dozen that ate cooked oysters. Later, two others who had eaten cooked oysters and I got violently sick. Three others who ate them did not get sick.

So maybe the immunity thing that Sammon described was selectively effective. As the only foreigner I clearly did not have the immunity. I had been in country about three months at the time.

Perhaps this place was inherently hazardous, although the Filipinos I was with were well-educated and knew their way around Quezon City. I suspect the safety of oysters is a YMMV phenomenon, but it only takes one such experience for somebody with my temperament to be warned off Philippine oysters permanently.

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Thanks for the advice guys. I was thinking middle class fine dining. Not cheap but not too expensive. To take girls. Where are your personal go to places? I'll be at somerset Olympia makati.

[QUOTE=Hilving777;2189260]I know there are many places to eat but can you all put down your top places to go. And where can I find all you can eat oysters?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2189631]The real trick to avoiding food-related illness is to know the restaurant at which you're eating and to ask about the source (s) of the food.[/QUOTE]Sage advice and applicable for anywhere you are in the world. I see a lot of people call out the food quality in the Philippines, and I can see why for good reasons. However, many times the problem may be with the eater and his / her immune system and not the food itself. Most people do not know about their allergies or poor immunity until they get violently sick.

Also, while talking about allergies one has to consider the Big 8. Milk, eggs, fish, crustacean shellfish, tree nuts, peanuts, wheat and soybean. Many places will use these food groups as a derivative in their food preparation and the unwitting diner gets a rude shock.

Okay, I give up. Perhaps the extreme caution is well advised. I've gotten food-related sickness here exactly once in 18 years but perhaps I was generalizing too much from my own experience. I've got some experience in the restaurant industry here, and I do admit that employees need to be carefully trained in appropriate handling of all foods: the necessity to wash hands before and after touching any food; the requirement to wear disposable, sanitary gloves, are all foreign to many new hires. And it does require keeping a constant eye on employees to make sure they adhere to appropriate food handling rules. Further, in Davao, I know the owners of the virtually all the restaurants to which I go, and I'm pretty familiar with how they operate their kitchens, and I concede that a newbie would not know these things.

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[QUOTE=Hilving777;2189691]Thanks for the advice guys. I was thinking middle class fine dining. Not cheap but not too expensive. To take girls. Where are your personal go to places? I'll be at somerset Olympia makati.[/QUOTE]Just drop me a PM Hilving as can help but a few pointers etc need to understood.

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[QUOTE=Hilving777;2189260]I know there are many places to eat but can you all put down your top places to go. And where can I find all you can eat oysters?[/QUOTE]The top place for all-you-can-eat clams is Walking Street in Angeles City. All kinds of clams are available in streets, alleys, and bars. Just let the vendor know that you want unlimited servings. Always make sure the clams are fresh if you like to eat them raw, as eating a bad clam can make you very ill. Eating raw blood clams is very risky, as they tend to pick up pathogens when feeding.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2189910]The top place for all-you-can-eat clams is Walking Street in Angeles City. All kinds of clams are available in streets, alleys, and bars. [/QUOTE]Way too subtle message CM. The OP might think you are referring to the availability and actual consumption of molluscs.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2189757]However, many times the problem may be with the eater and his / her immune system and not the food itself. Most people do not know about their allergies or poor immunity until they get violently sick.[/QUOTE]In the experience I had an older, thoughtful Filipina suggested later that we had erred in eating the oysters on an empty stomach. In my case the oysters were one of the first things I ate. But I remain apprehensive.

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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2189891]Just drop me a PM Hilving as can help but a few pointers etc need to understood.

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[QUOTE=Hilving777;2189691]I was thinking middle class fine dining. Not cheap but not too expensive. To take girls. Where are your personal go to places? I'll be at somerset Olympia makati.[/QUOTE]"Not cheap but not too expensive". OK, I'll guess p5000 or less for two fits your definition in that. Have I guessed correctly? Pretty much any place at Green Belt meets that requirement. Good restaurants at BGC's walking street. And in and near Rockwell Power Plant mall, which is a few minutes from Burgos, you'll find decent places. Same too in Jupiter St which is near Burgos - for example Corner Tree Cafe. Many delicious Korean restaurants in Makati. I'll guess you like Korean food, and I've yet to meet a Pinay who doesn't like it. Go to Seoul Kalbi in General Luna Street.

I reckon if you can specify a budget and what kind of food you like (or what you dislike) you might get better recommendations. As it is now, it's wild guesses.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;2190064]"Not cheap but not too expensive". OK, I'll guess p5000 or less for two fits your definition in that. Have I guessed correctly? Pretty much any place at Green Belt meets that requirement.....[/QUOTE]I'll second that. I am partial to the BBQ burgers at Rockefeller GB3 near the Cinema, one of those with a pint of their private brewed banana beer or dark ale will set you back less than 500.

Good place to take a date for a casual meal. You can get change from 1000 and both eat well.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2190085] brewed banana beer ll.[/QUOTE]Tell me more. Sounds very potent.

"Simple" Pinays do not care much for expensive Italian or French food; a fair number of girls have told me they are disgusted by anything in a cream sauce (I won't bring up the irony here). They are also uncomfortable in a fancy / expensive setting; local cuisine would be your best bet if you want them to feel at ease. If you don't go local, at least make sure the menu has pictures for her to see what the food looks like. I am not a huge fan of Filipino food so I tend to eat alone, LOL.

Now if she is upper middle class, take her somewhere fancy to impress.

I concur that GreenBelt Mall has a good spread of different restaurants. You can walk though with her and let her choose. I'm betting she chooses a cheap Filipino restaurant. The last time I did this (in another mall), of all the choices she had, she choose "The House that Chicken Built" (I can't remember the name, but it was just slightly better than Jollibees).