Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Turgid;2800392]I get it that the physical club itself and facilities at Scandallo are superior to that of Sharks but what about the women? Are the women at Scandallo hotter than those at Sharks?[/QUOTE]Noting of course that you must like Latinas. But if you like Latinas and Romanians equally well no question on balance Scandallo girls are hotter and a lot more of them. Some of the fatties and grannies I see in Sharks would never dare come to Scandallo (because what they have to pay to be there would never pay back). Scandallo has consistent quality across the board. And as I said in my report prob 250 girls most all 7+. Waaaay more than Sharks. Girl quality is no contest imo.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2800442]You have to screen them by making out with them in the club first. That will give you an indication how they will perform in the room. You could even just make out lying down on the sofa by the elevator or on the one in the videogame/pool table area under the stairs. That is how far you can go publicly.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't rely on pre-screening. They are being nice and flirty, and do whatever it takes to get you choose them. But once in the room, it is always a gamble. And since they are freelancers, you can't complain to the management that she did CBJ instead of BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2800442]You have to screen them by making out with them in the club first. That will give you an indication how they will perform in the room. You could even just make out lying down on the sofa by the elevator or on the one in the videogame/pool table area under the stairs. That is how far you can go publicly.[/QUOTE]She bounced in between being cool and being flirty. I didn't think about making out with her or start feeling her up because I didn't see anyone else feeling anyone up or making out. I'll know better for next time.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2800507]I wouldn't rely on pre-screening. They are being nice and flirty, and do whatever it takes to get you choose them. But once in the room, it is always a gamble. And since they are freelancers, you can't complain to the management that she did CBJ instead of BBBJ.[/QUOTE]This is very true. This goes for all providers. They will say whatever to get you in the room or to their place and then pull back after you have your naked.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2800507]I wouldn't rely on pre-screening. They are being nice and flirty, and do whatever it takes to get you choose them. But once in the room, it is always a gamble. And since they are freelancers, you can't complain to the management that she did CBJ instead of BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Sure, there's a chance that even if she makes out like a high school girl in heat in the club she'll be a dead fish in the room. But there's a much, much smaller chance that she'll be a dead fish in the club and turn into a tiger in the room.

Will be landing in Sao Paulo Thursday morning. Can't wait!

Heard a lot about this city, should be fun. Medellin has always been my favorite, but time to mix it up a bit.

Anyone wanting to link up to check a couple of clubs and clinicas, PM.

Will report soon.

SS.

I also tell the girls in the club that if she doesn't perform as per our agreed terms, I will cancel the session and not pay. I explain that if I am paying for it, I want it my way. If she is giving it for free then we do it her way. Her decision at that point. And I have yet to be disappointed especially in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2800605]I also tell the girls in the club that if she doesn't perform as per our agreed terms, I will cancel the session and not pay. I explain that if I am paying for it, I want it my way. If she is giving it for free then we do it her way. Her decision at that point. And I have yet to be disappointed especially in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Jesus imagine having this conversation hahaha, I could not imagine a bigger mood killer.

Our hobby can be hit and miss sometimes, but you cannot force chemistry or human connection either and they regular women outside of their line of work. Its up to you to gauge them beforehand too mate. You are not buying a can of beans off a shelf. Its one thing to negotiate services, but to do it using threats and warnings is next level.

I need advice. I got a number from a woman in Scandallo and she will not budge from her asking price. From what I have been reading in this forum, so many guys negotiate the price down to R800 and she wants R1300 which seems high compared to a few porn stars who charge the same and you can record. Even high end ladies are R800 and she is not high end but has a great personality. I want to stand firm on my price of R800 but don't want to lose her but I have no problem doing that. Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=KcDark;2800511]She bounced in between being cool and being flirty. I didn't think about making out with her or start feeling her up because I didn't see anyone else feeling anyone up or making out. I'll know better for next time...[/QUOTE]I have reported before two girls were playing with a local's little guy on the sofa by the entrance fully dressed. Everyone looking can see he had an erection and the girls kept it that way. LOL. You need to be clear and definitely do not want to be shy about what you want, otherwise you will be taken advantage of. If after an hour of screening, she can still scam you, then you have met a very good actress. That is my take on it. You can simply ask about kissing politely, Do you like kissing? Ask her to show you if she says yes. It should be full on without reservation. The chance to take a bad one is very low.

[QUOTE=GeneveCalling1;2799581]I would suggest you to go to any other luxury boate at the 300 BRL pricepoint (apart from Bahamas which is a shithole).

Casaro in rua Augusta is also good. You need to be vaccinated before you go there almost. You need to ignore the fact that that group there in the corner with 5 guys is clearly the top branch of a local drug cartel, not every night is good. But for a 30/50 BRL entry fee you can go there 10 different days before you reach Scandallo prices. And in Casaro you find that girl that doesn't know what she is doing, that just arrived to So Paulo, and is a true diamond in the rough. Act quickly though, because others also realise that.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Everyone talking about Scandallo good or bad. Now I hear of Casaro. Is there a good list and recommendation to other places in Sao Paulo to find good working girls? Can you please share some pointers?

Best,

Aviv.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2800706]I have reported before two girls were playing with little guy of a local on the sofa fully dressed. Everyone looking can see he had an erection and the girls kept it that way. LOL. You need to be clear and definitely do not want to be shy about what you want, otherwise you will be taken advantage of. If after an hour of screening, she can still scam you, then you have met a very good actress. That is my take on it. You can simply ask about kissing politely, Do you like kissing? Ask her to show you if she says yes. It should be full on without reservation.[/QUOTE]Definitely. I am firm in the states so I should be firm in my wants here especially at the price being asked. Live and learn.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2800631]Jesus imagine having this conversation hahaha, I could not imagine a bigger mood killer.

Our hobby can be hit and miss sometimes, but you cannot force chemistry or human connection either and they regular women outside of their line of work. Its up to you to gauge them beforehand too mate. You are not buying a can of beans off a shelf. Its one thing to negotiate services, but to do it using threats and warnings is next level.[/QUOTE]I think what he does is great. Eliminates a lot of uncertainty. BTW, he is not forcing her to do anything, it is completely up to the girl to decide if she is okay with whatever he wants or not. She can always say "no, thanks" and move on. He is a paying customer and needs to be sure he will get what he pays for. And I agree, this kind of conversation might be a turn off, but when I'm paying top dollar I want to have a great session, not a mediocre one. I would not expect much from a $50 clinica girl, but I expect top notch service from a $300 hooker.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2800730]I think what he does is great. Eliminates a lot of uncertainty. BTW, he is not forcing her to do anything, it is completely up to the girl to decide if she is okay with whatever he wants or not. She can always say "no, thanks" and move on. He is a paying customer and needs to be sure he will get what he pays for. And I agree, this kind of conversation might be a turn off, but when I'm paying top dollar I want to have a great session, not a mediocre one. I would not expect much from a $50 clinica girl, but I expect top notch service from a $300 hooker.[/QUOTE]Exactly. These girls aren't new to the game. They have heard everything and more. What I am saying is innocent stuff. We hammer out a simple verbal contract and then move forward to the playtime. Either she can accept the terms or move on and vice versa. If she insisted on CBJ, I am out. There are plenty of girls and guys for that matter.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2800631]Jesus imagine having this conversation hahaha, I could not imagine a bigger mood killer.

Our hobby can be hit and miss sometimes, but you cannot force chemistry or human connection either and they regular women outside of their line of work. Its up to you to gauge them beforehand too mate. You are not buying a can of beans off a shelf. Its one thing to negotiate services, but to do it using threats and warnings is next level.[/QUOTE]MiamiBoy & Anaggie, I have to agree with WR on this. It is a mood killer without a doubt and frankly I wonder why you guys think negotiations with a boate girl is necessary or even productive. I never pre negotiate or make specific requests. I always flirt with the girls I am interested in and I always offer these girls a drink, and I always test drive the girl (you guys know what I mean) before we talk about going upstairs.

If or when a girl passes the audition is when it is the time to find out how much she wants. I already know her ballpark figure before she tells me. If a girl quotes me 1000 br or less I usually counter offer 600 br. She can accept it or say no. They almost always accept. If we are still only 100 BR apart I usually accept her offer. If a girl asks for something north of 1000 BR I counter with half her offer and I am prepared to pay her half + 200. This is assuming the girl is a Tier 1 looker so I anticipated she would be asking large before I even said OI, but if she is a Tier 2 girl and asking more than a 1000 BR then she is clearly out of her mind. KKK. And I will move on unless she comes to her senses fast.

My results: I never had a bad session in a SP Boate. Some girls are as good as I thought they would be. Many girls are even better than I thought they would be. And a few girls are adequate, but nothing to write home about, but they still did what they needed to do to show me a decent time and it was just for one reason or another that we did not click and set off 4th of July firecrackers. It happens occasionally, even in Brazil because not all girls can be superstars in bed. But I never had a boate girl who did not give me passionate & wet DFK's, a good BBBJ, and covered vaginal sex in multiple positions. Then once in a while, I will have a girl who wants me to cum in her mouth. Once in a while I have a girl who will bareback. Occasionally I have paid 100 BR to 200 BR extra for BBFS. And, once in a while a girl will offer anal sex which I usually turn down unless it is with no additional charge, and I am in the mood.

So, I will conclude my take on this discussion by simply saying why would I want to fuck around with a winning strategy 30 years in practice globally. I am already 95% confident of having a very good boate session based on the girl's attitude and the vibe during the audition stage of the evening before we even get down to talk price let alone head to the elevators. Spelling everything out beforehand removes all the spontaneity and to what end. I don't get it. Surprise me baby. Let's see what you got! My experience thus far in Brazil is that a large majority of my Brazilian girls live up to or exceed my expectations in bed. They seem to want to fuck passionately and have as good a time as I do. So, I am not going to change a thing. But YMMV. Good luck.

A. H.

So I am with my friend in Brazil and he has never mongered or been to a boaete or even strip club. He is interested in going (we only have this Saturday night in Sao Paulo and I think he would be most comfortable in a quieter club atmosphere. Definitely not Casarao where I went before. He probably won't session but wants to just talk to girls and feel the vibe in a relaxed place. Which places would you recommend? I didn't make it out tonscadallo and I may want to save that for when he is more comfortable. I have done mostly the clinicals here. Suggestions?