American Politics

[QUOTE=TheCane;2964360]Chump hasn't even taken office yet and already there has been scandal! Hang on for an even worse bumpy, hellish, incompetent ride than the first one! [/QUOTE]Watergaetz! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] Yes quite right and very apt!

But what is, oh so very chilling and morally reprehensible, is when you get the gullible MAGA cultists, the likes of Tiny 12 and Elvis 2008, who knowingly sympathize and defend, the repugnant behavior of a pedo like Gaetz, as if this is somehow exceptionable behavior for someone vying for the top position of AG, House Rep., Senate or even the plain old position of Dog Catcher by "Joe citizen", for that matter.

However, unlike the position of Dog Catcher, I'm sure the vetting processes is a lot more rigorous and vigorous, than it is to disqualify any old run of the mill position as, Repub representative for office. Just like another pedo, Roy Moore, recent run for the Senate, it will no doubt soon be, a future stake, for pedo Matt Gatez, to run again for Repubs, for office.

As it seems, that "somehow", [b]sexual misconduct[/b] has become Repub qualification for office, rather than something that would be disqualification.

And forget about, the Rule of Law, when caught, 'soup to nuts', embroiled in scandal and criminal behavior, as we know and have witnessed, Repubs and MAGA, have all thrown that rule book out the window, as they feel it doesn't apply to them!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2964485]This time around, other world leaders will probably have to drop all the niceities and euphemisms pro Repub Mainstream Media has been using to call Trump's lies something other than the lies they are and that Trump is a liar. You know, that "he says things not necessarily in line with the facts" crap. Trump only lies. Trump is a consumate liar. There is no better or more accurate way to say it and I hope they just start saying it early and often.

Mexico's President comes pretty close to it already. Good for her.

LOL. She publicly refuted his lie and "explained" to Trump that she is ALREADY doing what is necessary to achieve the desired goal UNDER THE BIDEN Administration.

[B]Mexicos president denies Trumps claim that she agreed to shut down the US-Mexico border.
Nov. 29, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-mexican-president-had-good-102347079.html[/URL]

Trump is already taking thoroughly unearned and undeserved credit for the remarkable and historic positive results Biden-Harris and the Dems accomplished. That observation will be a common, totally justified and provable refrain for any truth-tellers in the media and elsewhere. Until Trump totally fucks up the Envy of the World conditions he was handed again and fucks everything up to historic levels again, that is.[/QUOTE]Or is the incessant heat of BKK finally turning your melon to goop?

Don't you remember when AMLO was elected he made a similar agreement with Our Lord and Savior, includ "stay in Mexico".

As soon as Trump told the media, AMLO denied it but nevertheless followed thru on it ROTFLMMFAO.

[URL]https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/25/no-agreement-any-kind-incoming-mexican-government-denies-cutting-deal-trump-keep[/URL]

And BTW AMLO is still running the show, she is just his little Jewish marionette.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2964689]Watergaetz! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] Yes quite right and very apt!

But what is, oh so very chilling and morally reprehensible, is when you get the gullible MAGA cultists, the likes of Tiny 12 and Elvis 2008, who knowingly sympathize and defend, the repugnant behavior... [/QUOTE]Well, apparently my use of the word "sic" has caused you to up your game. I haven't noticed a single spelling, grammatical or typographical error in your posts since! You're welcome!

Your statement above is completely false. You don't have any idea of the clinical or common definition of the word you're using. The cutoff age for calling Gaetz what you're calling him is off by 4 years, [B]IF[/B] he did what you said he did.

I'm tired of beating around the bush, trying to address a topic I believe should be and is off limits according to forum rules. You should drop this. And that's not a threat, it's just common sense.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2964661]Republicans should have a 20+ seat advantage in the House. There are two reasons why they don't:

1. Democratic Party gerrymandering in California, New York, Maryland, New Mexico and other states. Republicans won the House popular vote by 3%. Based on that they should have a 13 seat advantage. That's pretty typical of the the period since after World War II. Democrats have been better a rigging the system than Republicans, and so have had an average of 3. 9% more House seats than justified by the popular vote since 1946.

2. Republican House members looked like a bunch of buffoons in 2023/2024. Led by the Matt Gaetz contingent, they ousted Kevin McCarthy and then couldn't agree on a speaker. Now I happen to agree with Gaetz et al on slowing the rate of growth of government spending and lowering deficits. But McCarthy managed to claw back $1. 5 trillion in unfunded, unneeded spending legislated by Democrats in 2021/2022, even though Democrats controlled the presidency and the Senate. When you try to shut down government and fire your speaker when you don't get everything you want, you look irresponsible.

[B]That sounds a lot like the MAGA argument that Trump would have won with around 50,000 more votes in a few states in 2020. You're stretching even more than people who support that narrative.[/b][/QUOTE]They were exactly right to argue that because the numbers were correct. It was not a "narrative". It was a mathmatical fact. Same as the truth I have been telling about Trump's rasor-thin win.

I believe it was actually closer to 43,000 that year. And about 79,000 determined the winner in 2016.

A shift of roughly half that amount from the winner to the loser in those particular states would have flipped the outcome.

It is impossible to argue otherwise.

Pro Repub MSM wants it that way; a neck-in-neck race to the finish with virtually a coin-flip determining the winner. Exactly as it was this year too.

Bear in mind, the only reason I or, I'm guessing, anyone ever referred to the Biden 2020 Electoral win as a "landslide" is because that same Electoral win for Trump in 2016 was falsely proclaimed (lied about) by him and his MAGAs as a "landslide". Countless times I referred to it as "a Trump-defined landslide", not as a truthfully-defined landslide, Electorally.

But at least Biden-Harris had the 7,000,000+ vote advantage over Trump-Pence and winning the Majority polular vote on their side.

Neither of which Trump has ever been able to truthfully claim in three tries and 34 Felony Convictions for conspiring to steal one of them along with credible accusations of trying to steal another one.

LOL. It turns out not only did Madam President of Mexico bust Trump for being a Liar about what she told him in their phone call about the border, that she was ALREADY doing what was necessary under Biden and therefore Trump had NOTHING to claim credit for, but she also kicked his BUTT in that little phone call "negotiation", which is probably why he raced to the nearest failed Social Media platform to lie, lie and lie even more and faster about it:

[B]LOL Trump Says Mexico All Fixed Now.

Psst: Trump Caved to Mexico: Trump declared immigration fixed (after a warning from Mexico that you're not hearing about)[/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/11/lol-trump-says-mexico-all-fixed-now[/URL]

Really, you MUST read it to savor the full pleasure of it.

Oh, and it also turns out Newsmax of all things is one of the few media sources mentioning it. Why didn't one of our resident Newsmax fans post this sooner? LOL.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2964707]Or is the incessant heat of BKK finally turning your melon to goop?

Don't you remember when AMLO was elected he made a similar agreement with Our Lord and Savior, includ "stay in Mexico".

As soon as Trump told the media, AMLO denied it but nevertheless followed thru on it ROTFLMMFAO.

[URL]https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/25/no-agreement-any-kind-incoming-mexican-government-denies-cutting-deal-trump-keep[/URL]

And BTW AMLO is still running the show, she is just his little Jewish marionette.[/QUOTE]Above all else!!

[URL]https://sputnikglobe.com/20241201/trump-threatens-brics-countries-with-tariffs-unless-abandon-plans-to-replace-us-dollar-1121054628.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.rt.com/news/608466-trump-threatens-brics-tariffs/[/URL]

Fait Accompli to the CCP renminbi!!

Allahu Akbar MOFOS to all you Anti Americans in this thread.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2964767][b]Our Lord and Savior is an Economic Nationalist Numbskull, Bullshitter and Coward[/b]

Above all else!!

[URL]https://sputnikglobe.com/20241201/trump-threatens-brics-countries-with-tariffs-unless-abandon-plans-to-replace-us-dollar-1121054628.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.rt.com/news/608466-trump-threatens-brics-tariffs/[/URL]

Fait Accompli to the CCP renminbi!!

Allahu Akbar MOFOS to all you Anti Americans in this thread.[/QUOTE]As soon as he realized he was dealing with a country that knows he's an economic numbskull, bullshitter and Coward and has the facts on their side, Trumpty-Dumplty pulled his usual little "Declare 'victory', turn tail and run" tactic. Lolol.

[B]Mexico Says Trump Tariffs Would Cost 400,000 US Jobs.[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/finance/streettalk/mexico-tariffs-u-s-jobs/2024/11/27/id/1189604/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Mexico said Wednesday the United States will be shooting itself in the foot if President-elect Donald Trump implements his threats to impose 25-percent tariffs on Mexican imports.
..........
Mexico's Economy Minister Marcelo Ebrard warned that the cost to US companies of the tariffs on Mexico would be "huge."

"Around 400,000 jobs will be lost" in the United States, he said, citing a study based on figures from US carmakers that manufacture in Mexico.

He added the tariffs would also hit US consumers hard..[/QUOTE]Isn't that one of your favorite media sources?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2964739]They were exactly right to argue that because the numbers were correct. It was not a "narrative". It was a mathmatical fact. Same as the truth I have been telling about Trump's rasor-thin win.

I believe it was actually closer to 43,000 that year. And about 79,000 determined the winner in 2016.

A shift of roughly half that amount from the winner to the loser in those particular states would have flipped the outcome.

It is impossible to argue otherwise.

Pro Repub MSM wants it that way; a neck-in-neck race to the finish with virtually a coin-flip determining the winner. Exactly as it was this year too.[/QUOTE]You are missing the point as usual. Would Biden have won in 2020 if the truth about Hunter Biden and his laptop were known? People who were polled said it would have. That means the election was actively rigged by the deep state.

No one questioned that Biden won the popular vote. What was questioned was given that there is no question that election rigging happened with the laptop, what other rigging was going on?

Hell, we saw Democrats try to rig the 2024 election with the criminal and civil cases against Trump and keeping Trump's name off the ballot. And when all that lawfare bullshit did not work, the deep state sent out an assassin. Amazingly, this assassin had his house scrubbed clean and his poor as fuck parents have a $1000 an hour lawyer on retainer. Gee, there is nothing suspicious there.

And after all this bullshit and the fucking coup in the Democratic party, you are cherry picking again and saying Trump "squeaked by".

When you are a convicted felon and win the popular vote by 2.5 million, something no one predicted, that is a mandate. All we Republicans can do is marvel at how much he would have really won by if you douches had not cheated so badly. In a clean and fair election, my bet is Trump tops that 7 million mark easily.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2964865]As soon as he realized he was dealing with a country that knows he's an economic numbskull, bullshitter and Coward and has the facts on their side, Trumpty-Dumplty pulled his usual little "Declare 'victory', turn tail and run" tactic. Lolol.

[B]Mexico Says Trump Tariffs Would Cost 400,000 US Jobs.[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/finance/streettalk/mexico-tariffs-u-s-jobs/2024/11/27/id/1189604/[/URL]

Isn't that one of your favorite media sources?[/QUOTE]OMFG Mexico says LOLOLOL they may have even less credibility than you and Austin Powers / Dr Evil.

Mexico says it will cost the US 20 qatrillion jobs!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2964874]You are missing the point as usual. Would Biden have won in 2020 if the truth about Hunter Biden and his laptop were known? People who were polled said it would have. That means the election was actively rigged by the deep state.

No one questioned that Biden won the popular vote. What was questioned was given that there is no question that election rigging happened with the laptop, what other rigging was going on?

Hell, we saw Democrats try to rig the 2024 election with the criminal and civil cases against Trump and keeping Trump's name off the ballot. And when all that lawfare bullshit did not work, the deep state sent out an assassin. Amazingly, this assassin had his house scrubbed clean and his poor as fuck parents have a $1000 an hour lawyer on retainer. Gee, there is nothing suspicious there.

And after all this bullshit and the fucking coup in the Democratic party, you are cherry picking again and saying Trump "squeaked by".

When you are a convicted felon and win the popular vote by 2.5 million, something no one predicted, that is a mandate. All we Republicans can do is marvel at how much he would have really won by if you douches had not cheated so badly. In a clean and fair election, my bet is Trump tops that 7 million mark easily.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-president.html[/URL]

Hes at 77 million.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2024/11/18/minnesota-election-judge-charged-felonies-letting-unregistered-people-vote-2024-election/[/URL]

[URL]https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/how-the-2020-election-was-rigged/[/URL]

Who gives a shit if Looney Tooms says he doesn't have a mandate, 77 million voters DISAGREE LMAO.

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/voter-id-elon-musk/2024/11/10/id/1187471/[/URL]

Hey Everybody-- Hoping your TrumpsGiving was Great.

I hope that the 10-12 people who read the American Politics section have a Merry Trumpmas-.

It's Beginning to Feel a Lot LIke TrumpMas Everywhere You gooooooo.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2964865]As soon as he realized he was dealing with a country that knows he's an economic numbskull, bullshitter and Coward and has the facts on their side, Trumpty-Dumplty pulled his usual little "Declare 'victory', turn tail and run" tactic. Lolol.

[B]Mexico Says Trump Tariffs Would Cost 400,000 US Jobs.[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/finance/streettalk/mexico-tariffs-u-s-jobs/2024/11/27/id/1189604/[/URL]

Isn't that one of your favorite media sources?[/QUOTE]They don't want any of those Mexican slave driven sweatshops / maquiladoras along the US border closing.

Just wait until he seriously threatens the cartels with the US military.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/01/world/americas/mexico-fentanyl-chemistry-students.html[/URL]

And the primer chemicals are provided by Xi himself.

Which I'm sure gives you a boner!!

GOD is Great.

Donald J Trump is going to single-handedly save Western Civilization and the rest of the fucking PLANET, the man is a living GOD.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2964247]What's more misleading Spidy? Me replacing a word I find objectionable with **** and inserting "(sic)" after your odd or erroneous wording? Or you shortening my quote so that someone reading your post won't understand you're upset about nothing?[/QUOTE]

Shortening a post for the sake of brevity...is that the best you got, Tiny 12, for a rebuttal? [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

All ISGers/BMs shorten, or take snippets of one another's posts all the time. They don't insert words, irresponsibly and maliciously, into another BM's quote/post to suit their own narratives, like you do!

If you think for a moment, it's a good idea, to have another ISGer/BM change your post/quote, by inserting or adding words to your post, to suit their twisted whims, then obviously, you're a bigger troll and shit-disturber than I would have imagined.

Essentially, I find your behavior in changing another ISGer/BM's post, very fraudulent and very disturbing. It's just a plain violation and [b]an obvious blatant attempt to misrepresent what ISGers post.[/b]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2964874]You are missing the point as usual. Would Biden have won in 2020 if the truth about Hunter Biden and his laptop were known? People who were polled said it would have. That means the election was actively rigged by the deep state.

No one questioned that Biden won the popular vote. What was questioned was given that there is no question that election rigging happened with the laptop, what other rigging was going on?

Hell, we saw Democrats try to rig the 2024 election with the criminal and civil cases against Trump and keeping Trump's name off the ballot. And when all that lawfare bullshit did not work, the deep state sent out an assassin. Amazingly, this assassin had his house scrubbed clean and his poor as fuck parents have a $1000 an hour lawyer on retainer. Gee, there is nothing suspicious there.

And after all this bullshit and the fucking coup in the Democratic party, you are cherry picking again and saying Trump "squeaked by".

When you are a convicted felon and win the popular vote by 2.5 million, something no one predicted, that is a mandate. All we Republicans can do is marvel at how much he would have really won by if you douches had not cheated so badly. In a clean and fair election, my bet is Trump tops that 7 million mark easily.[/QUOTE]There was nothing in Hunter's laptop that connected the Democratic Party candidate to a crime, a wrongdoing or even a clumsy stutter. Nothing.

The reason Trump won had nothing to do with whether or not he was a Felon, a total numbskull or liar about how tariffs work, what caused inflation, where trannies take a piss or immigration.

The sole reason there is a President-elect Trump today instead of a President-elect Harris is because 130,000 voters spread across just three states, most if not all of whom didn't give enough of a shit about any of those things to base their vote on them, voted for Trump instead of Harris.

Remember how your boy Trump claimed if only none of California's votes were counted he would have won the popular vote in 2016? LOL. Mathematically he was right, of course. And if California had been a "competitive" state in 2016 there is no doubt Trump would have campaigned more and spent more ad money in California. And, sure enough, if he had done that it is very likely Clinton would not have won the popular vote by almost 3,000,000 votes.

Do you have any quibble with the math and premise of that assertion?

The exact same thing applies to the reason Trump won 2,500,000 more votes than Harris, why the narrowest victory for Trump in the battleground states was in the only three states that mattered and why House Repubs got more votes than House Dems;.

It is all about where the candidates choose to campaign and spend ad money or choose not to campaign and spend ad money.

Harris came closest to winning in the three battleground states she campaigned in the most, the only 3 states that ultimately mattered to the outcome of the contest.

If there had been more time and money at her disposal she would have campaigned and spent more in places that might have totally erased Trump's 2,500,000 vote advantage.

Same as Trump might have erased Clinton's 3,000,000 vote advantage in 2016.

Same as the Dem House candidates might have erased the Repub House candidtaes' overall slight vote advantage if they had bothered to campaign in every heavily gerrymandered Red District where the chances of them still losing in them by at least 1 Repub vote is so great it realistically isn't worth their time and money to campaign and spend money in them at all. So they don't.

And they don't, Harris didn't in 2024, Trump didn't in 2016 and Dem House candidates didn't almost any of those times because "winning" the most votes is not the way a President wins the presidency or the way a House or Senate Majority is determined. And as long as every state regardless of population still gets the exact same number of Senate seats as every other state, it doesn't matter how many more overall votes the Dem Senate candidates get than their Repub counterparts either. The Senate Majority is not determined by how many nation-wide votes each Party's candidates got.

If it were the way those contests are determined, well, then campaigning and ad spending would be very different wouldn't it?

And if polling over the decades on the issues that seem to matter most to Americans has any validity at all, there would have rarely if ever been a Repub President, a Repub Majority in the Senate or a Repub Majority in the House for a very long time, decades, possibly since Herbert Hoover and his Party's Senate and House candidates won the 1928 election.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2964918]Shortening a post for the sake of brevity...is that the best you got, Tiny 12, for a rebuttal? [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

All ISGers/BMs shorten, or take snippets of one another's posts all the time. They don't insert words, irresponsibly and maliciously, into another BM's quote/post to suit their own narratives, like you do!

If you think for a moment, it's a good idea, to have another ISGer/BM change your post/quote, by inserting or adding words to your post, to suit their twisted whims, then obviously, you're a bigger troll and shit-disturber than I would have imagined.

Essentially, I find your behavior in changing another ISGer/BM's post, very fraudulent and very disturbing. It's just a plain violation and [b]an obvious blatant attempt to misrepresent what ISGers post.[/b][/QUOTE]I have never modified anyone's quote except to (1) shorten it, (2) insert my comment or "sic" in parentheses, and (3) substitute asterisks for words that are vulgar or describe behavior better not discussed on this board. If you can find any other type of modification I've made, please post it.

With regard to "2", I would use brackets instead of parentheses, but the system doesn't allow it.

"Very fraudulent and very disturbing"? You take this way too seriously.