Seoul

So I'll give my advice from all my experiences here in Seoul over a few years.

Hooker hill: This place has died down a lot in recent years, but it still okay when I'm just drunk and need to drop a load or am too lazy to travel to another area of the city. There's really only a couple chicks that aren't gross and nasty. First door on the right near the bottom. One girl's name is Courtney. She's alright and offers a good service. There is one other girl who is a lot sexier and hotter, but I don't know her name. They'll quote you ridiculous prices earlier in the night, but around 2 am or later 80,000 KRW will get you fairly enthusiastic FS. I'm not sure how much to take home. Someone was asking in another post. I didn't ask.

Normally I would recommend a place up the street perpendicular to hooker hill. Top of hill across from the foreign market. Nymph. I don't remember the chick's name. Smoking hot body! Face is 90% plastic, but great service. Again, she'll do FS for around 80-90,000. She's better than the other place, but it has been open the last few times I've been by on Fridays and Saturdays. Nymph maybe closed permanently now. Not sure. Definitely my first choice in Itaewon area.

VIP Massage: Near Gangnam station. Exit 5. Go straight then take a right then another right. In the basement. This place is okay. 120,000 FS with shower. Girls are usually Chinese, Mongolian or from Kazakhstan. Not super hot and slightly older, but I've always had good service here.

Belle was my go to for a while. Near Gangnam station. Not far from VIP. Prices have gone up a bit, but the massage has gotten infinitely better. Actually very good now. Girls are young and usually quite pretty. 150,000 for a HJ + 1 hour massage + a second HJ.

The best advice though requires some Korean skills, but it is by far the best. A complete life-changer! Make a login ID and password for either Adal5 or Sweetbam. Using these sites you can search for venue by area, or by type of place you're looking for. Once you learn to navigate the sites it's fucking crazy how easy it makes finding girls in Korea. There are 1000's of places to choose from! Basically you are never more than 15 minutes from reasonably priced, hot, young pussy anywhere in this country. It's freaking insane. Some places near Gangnam won't accept foreigners, but in my experience (a lot of experience) almost all places outside of Gangnam are pretty accepting, although you'll need to speak some Korean to make the appointment and ask for directions.

Adal5 and sweetbam are amazing though. As I said, you can choose based on area, but also by type of venue. Basically by price. I've been to several Anmas, Lip Cafes, Hyugaetel, and Opi from both sites.

Opi (offictels) are pretty much the same price as backpage. 200-300,000/ hour. Girls are sometimes hotter, but not always, than other venues. The service in my experience not better. For me it wasn't worth the extra money.

Anma's are okay sometimes. Basically massage parlors (similar to Belle) with happy a ending. Usually 80 - 120,000 depending on how many "special services" you want.

Lip Cafes are the shit! Amazing! They're all over the city. 40,000 KRW. 15 minute BBBJ CIM. No stress, no fuss. This is my weekly stress relieving ritual! Girls are all always young, hot and skinny between 21 - 27 years old. I generally go for the relay course (2 different girls in a row. 70,000!) because, why not? Haha.

My favorite are the Hyugaetels. Usually 80,000 for 40 minutes FS. BBBJ. DATY everything included. You can choose the venue based on girls. Thai, Korean, Russian, Etc. The girls in my experience have been hotter and and better attitudes than any of the Opi chicks. I've got 2 Thai places (Apgujang and Kyodae) that I hit up a few times a month. Amazing! Girls are all 22 - 27. Hot as shit! Places are clean. Some offer anal for extra charge. Again I usually opt for the relay course. 150,000 KRW. 40 minutes 1 girl + 40 minutes thai massage + another 40 minutes with a another girl! It's the best deal by far!

Anyway. That's my advice. Adal5 or sweetbam! It'll change your life. Not sure for the better or worse! Haha.

[QUOTE=CasualFunSeoul;2121699]So I'll give my advice from all my experiences here in Seoul over a few years.

Adal5 and sweetbam are amazing though. As I said, you can choose based on area, but also by type of venue. Basically by price. I've been to several Anmas, Lip Cafes, Hyugaetel, and Opi from both sites.

Opi (offictels) are pretty much the same price as backpage. 200-300,000/ hour. Girls are sometimes hotter, but not always, than other venues. The service in my experience not better. For me it wasn't worth the extra money.

Anma's are okay sometimes. Basically massage parlors (similar to Belle) with happy a ending. Usually 80 - 120,000 depending on how many "special services" you want.

Lip Cafes are the shit! Amazing! They're all over the city. 40,000 KRW. 15 minute BBBJ CIM. No stress, no fuss. This is my weekly stress relieving ritual! Girls are all always young, hot and skinny between 21 - 27 years old. I generally go for the relay course (2 different girls in a row. 70,000!) because, why not? Haha.

My favorite are the Hyugaetels. Usually 80,000 for 40 minutes FS. BBBJ. DATY everything included. You can choose the venue based on girls. Thai, Korean, Russian, Etc. The girls in my experience have been hotter and and better attitudes than any of the Opi chicks. I've got 2 Thai places (Apgujang and Kyodae) that I hit up a few times a month. Amazing! Girls are all 22 - 27. Hot as shit! Places are clean. Some offer anal for extra charge. Again I usually opt for the relay course. 150,000 KRW. 40 minutes 1 girl + 40 minutes thai massage + another 40 minutes with a another girl! It's the best deal by far!

Anyway. That's my advice. Adal5 or sweetbam! It'll change your life. Not sure for the better or worse! Haha.[/QUOTE]I'd love to try something off of adal5 or sweetbam but sadly I can't speak or read Korean at all. If you ever need a partner to go to these hyugaetels or lip cafes, I'd be happy to help pay for your entertainment too!

[QUOTE=CasualFunSeoul;2121699]Lip Cafes are the shit! Amazing! They're all over the city. 40,000 KRW. 15 minute BBBJ CIM. No stress, no fuss. This is my weekly stress relieving ritual! Girls are all always young, hot and skinny between 21 - 27 years old. I generally go for the relay course (2 different girls in a row. 70,000!) because, why not? Haha..[/QUOTE]Hi. When you do the relay. Is it 2 pops or 1 girl warms you up and the second finishes you off?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2122279]Hi. When you do the relay. Is it 2 pops or 1 girl warms you up and the second finishes you off?[/QUOTE]If you pop on the fluffer it's no big deal at all.

[QUOTE=Optional;2121972]I'd love to try something off of adal5 or sweetbam but sadly I can't speak or read Korean at all. If you ever need a partner to go to these hyugaetels or lip cafes, I'd be happy to help pay for your entertainment too![/QUOTE]Can you provide me the directions to the Lip Cafes in Seoul? Thanks.

[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2122384]If you pop on the fluffer it's no big deal at all.[/QUOTE]So its a one shot deal. Either with the fluffer or if time runs out with the first then the second comes in?

I assume 2 girl BJ is not available?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2122508]So its a one shot deal. Either with the fluffer or if time runs out with the first then the second comes in?

I assume 2 girl BJ is not available?[/QUOTE]Oh no. Sorry for the confusion. If you get a relay at a Kissbang, lip cafe, or even a FS anma in Seoul, you get one shot per girl. So if you drop the money for 2 women, you can cum twice total. Even at FISH that uses a fluffer, you can cum with the fluffer and the main provider. I have never been to an establishment that put a one shot limit on a relay. Again, sorry for the vague answer earlier.

As for the two person BJ, no. In general a relay is always one girl at a time. I have been to places in the past where a second girl joins in (wearing a mask) but this is known as an "event. " So when visiting an establishment, "relay" is one girl at a time and an "event" is two girls at the same time.

[QUOTE=CasualFunSeoul;2121699]So I'll give my advice from all my experiences here in Seoul over a few years.

Hooker hill: This place has died down a lot in recent years, but it still okay when I'm just drunk and need to drop a load or am too lazy to travel to another area of the city. There's really only a couple chicks that aren't gross and nasty. First door on the right near the bottom. One girl's name is Courtney. She's alright and offers a good service. There is one other girl who is a lot sexier and hotter, but I don't know her name. They'll quote you ridiculous prices earlier in the night, but around 2 am or later 80,000 KRW will get you fairly enthusiastic FS. I'm not sure how much to take home. Someone was asking in another post. I didn't ask.

Normally I would recommend a place up the street perpendicular to hooker hill. Top of hill across from the foreign market. Nymph. I don't remember the chick's name. Smoking hot body! Face is 90% plastic, but great service. Again, she'll do FS for around 80-90,000..[/QUOTE]Hello and Happy New Year!

Can you please guide me through some Lip Cafes, directions (I only speak basic Korean), and I never tried a Lip Café before, and what are the deeds?. Also, the Hyuggetels are you talking (Kyodae & Apgujeong) can you give me the directions? Subway. Exit # etc etc?. You can PM me if you want! Greatly appreciated!

[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2122763]Oh no. Sorry for the confusion. If you get a relay at a Kissbang, lip cafe, or even a FS anma in Seoul, you get one shot per girl. So if you drop the money for 2 women, you can cum twice total. Even at FISH that uses a fluffer, you can cum with the fluffer and the main provider. I have never been to an establishment that put a one shot limit on a relay. Again, sorry for the vague answer earlier.

As for the two person BJ, no. In general a relay is always one girl at a time. I have been to places in the past where a second girl joins in (wearing a mask) but this is known as an "event. " So when visiting an establishment, "relay" is one girl at a time and an "event" is two girls at the same time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! I'm curious about mainly the relay at a lip cafe. The time is pretty short but at a good value. I think I read the prices are about 70 to 80 for 2 girl relay. 15 min each.

Does the next girl come in the room right after you pop with the first one? Seems kind of rushed unless you have no problem with 2 shots in 20 min imor so.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2123114]Thanks for the info! I'm curious about mainly the relay at a lip cafe. The time is pretty short but at a good value. I think I read the prices are about 70 to 80 for 2 girl relay. 15 min each.

Does the next girl come in the room right after you pop with the first one? Seems kind of rushed unless you have no problem with 2 shots in 20 min imor so.[/QUOTE]Relays are always based on time. So if it's 20 minutes & 20 minutes that's exactly how long you have. It doesn't matter when or if you cum. Brick and mortar establishments here in Seoul are extremely attentive to time limits. Anyone who's been to a fair share will tell you that when that phone rings, it is hell a loud. The good side is getting those girls that will give you a massage or foot rub if you finish early. I even had one girl ask me to put my head on her lap while she picked wax out of my ear while we waited for time to expire.

Visiting Korea, stopped by the Hill, first time in 1 year and a half. Saw Bean at Avante Garde. She was trying to hustle me for 150,000, but I was firm at 100,000. Was surprised at how much she was trying to hustle me since I'd been a customer since 2006, but when we got to her room, it was business as usual. No clock-watching, pretty good time, an ATF and freakishly large hips for a Korean girl. She complained about other girls trying to get in on the scene and the fewer clubs open now. A lot of girls trying for threesome action to get paid. Not my scene, but might be interesting with the right girls.

A few nights later, went to Ambrosia where a nice looking Korean girl with nice body and no tits took me to her hotel room down the street beside Hyundai Sauna. Paid 100 K, nice DATY with a shaved kitty, good BBFS, finished and out the door. Nice personality and a good time, I repeated a few days later.

Looked for Kay at Happy Days, but a girl named Sara was working instead. Nice face and body, but had excess skin around her mid-section possibly from excessive weight loss. Couldn't make out where she was from, Russia? Half-Korean, Half-American? She said she was from Hannam and went to school there, so I guessed that was it. Very self-conscious of the flabby skin, but I didn't mind and she was real nice DATY, very enthusiastic. BBFS felt great, the best on the Hill. Finished, got dressed, and ran into Kay going out the door! We chatted over a Jack and Coke and unfortunately wouldn't be able to see her since I left before she worked the next weekend. I did repeat with Sara a few days later and it was similarly nice.

Went to the top of the hill at the Shamrock and Venezuelan girl was working. She's always got those huge hips and ass that are irresistible. I massaged her and put on the condom for FS. She always has stubble on her legs and her cooch is like banging a porcupine. I've visited her a few times over the years, but can't say it's really worth it. Not even sure she's not a TS, but oh well.

The Hill scene has changed drastically since I last visited in April 2016. Eve, Debut Bar, Texas Club were all boarded up and closed. Cheers was holding out, but only one fat girl worked there when I walked in, compared to previously when 2-3 relatively hot barracudas worked there and were ready to part you from your money. VIP across the street had 3-4 girls working, including my old ATF. The girls were pretty nice looking, but too crowded with too many girls (and johns), a small cubicle separating the action, and too pricey. I declined and went on my way. No change to Ambrosia or Moonshine, or those up the Hill at Avante Garde, Happy Days, or across at Lara's. Quite a few more Koreans at the top of the Hill with the club there and strangely a Yakult yogurt office now at what once was Polly's.

On the main strip perpendicular from the Hill, most shops were not open. I waited until midnight one night and probably only half of the places were open. Eventually, I was able to go into the Texas Bar (formerly Evergreen) and talked to Soo-Ae. Across the street at Tiffany, Candy was working. Up the hill at Pandora, someone was working in the early morning on one night, but I was never able to see who it was. Nymph was never open on the 4-5 trips I took to the Hill. At Candy bar, a girl was working that previously worked at Shamrock, Texas, and other bars. The other girl at Candy's wasn't that attractive and I had never seen before. One girl worked at Apple, but she didn't appeal to me, so I didn't hang around.

All in all, a lot of changes to the Hill scene, but still some good action to be had. Was kind of disappointed at the slow scene, but maybe just the holidays, cold weather, etc.

P.S.- someone wrote about possibly getting "freebies" from Hill girls. That'll never happen. These girls work for their money, they even call themselves 'working girls' and don't give a damn how good looking or 'special' you are. IDK, I could be wrong. I've been going there for over 18 years now and only once had a girl give my friend, a real good-looking dude, a BJ on the house.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2122279]Hi. When you do the relay. Is it 2 pops or 1 girl warms you up and the second finishes you off?[/QUOTE]2 girls. 2 pops. 1 each.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2123114]Thanks for the info! I'm curious about mainly the relay at a lip cafe. The time is pretty short but at a good value. I think I read the prices are about 70 to 80 for 2 girl relay. 15 min each.

Does the next girl come in the room right after you pop with the first one? Seems kind of rushed unless you have no problem with 2 shots in 20 min imor so.[/QUOTE]You usually get a short break in between. Pop with first girl. Wait 15 minutes. Next girl comes in.

Thanks for the in-depth. It will be my 1st time to Korea coming up. I am looking a squirter or extremely wet pussy if you could recommend some. Based on your info, I will try to find Hyugaetels.

I have had my fair share of escort in the USA but I would think fresher younger newbie in Korea would be even more amazing. Only problem is where and how. Thanks for any knowledge that you can grant me!!

[QUOTE=CasualFunSeoul;2121699]So I'll give my advice from all my experiences here in Seoul over a few years.

Hooker hill: This place has died down a lot in recent years, but it still okay when I'm just drunk and need to drop a load or am too lazy to travel to another area of the city. There's really only a couple chicks that aren't gross and nasty. First door on the right near the bottom. One girl's name is Courtney. She's alright and offers a good service. There is one other girl who is a lot sexier and hotter, but I don't know her name. They'll quote you ridiculous prices earlier in the night, but around 2 am or later 80,000 KRW will get you fairly enthusiastic FS. I'm not sure how much to take home. Someone was asking in another post. I didn't ask.

Normally I would recommend a place up the street perpendicular to hooker hill. Top of hill across from the foreign market. Nymph. I don't remember the chick's name. Smoking hot body! Face is 90% plastic, but great service. Again, she'll do FS for around 80-90,000. She's better than the other place, but it has been open the last few times I've been by on Fridays and Saturdays. Nymph maybe closed permanently now. Not sure. Definitely my first choice in Itaewon area..[/QUOTE]

I had managed to create an account on Adal5 but I am unable to locate Apgujang and Kyodae. Are these near Seoul?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=CasualFunSeoul;2121699]

My favorite are the Hyugaetels. Usually 80,000 for 40 minutes FS. BBBJ. DATY everything included. You can choose the venue based on girls. Thai, Korean, Russian, Etc. The girls in my experience have been hotter and and better attitudes than any of the Opi chicks. I've got 2 Thai places (Apgujang and Kyodae) that I hit up a few times a month. Amazing! Girls are all 22 - 27. Hot as shit! Places are clean. Some offer anal for extra charge. Again I usually opt for the relay course. 150,000 KRW. 40 minutes 1 girl + 40 minutes thai massage + another 40 minutes with a another girl! It's the best deal by far!

Anyway. That's my advice. Adal5 or sweetbam! It'll change your life. Not sure for the better or worse! Haha.[/QUOTE]

What does +2 or +3 next to a name stand for on those advertisement on Adal5?

[QUOTE=Gatsbyx78;2124687]I had managed to create an account on Adal5 but I am unable to locate Apgujang and Kyodae. Are these near Seoul?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Don't bother to ask him, he's not willing to share any of this information! Apgujeong is a station located on Line #3, and Kyodae it's Seoul National Education Uni. Bla bla. On Line #2 !

I am travelling to Seoul for my first time next week. I have been trying to do some research but it is difficult.

I am staying here:

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I am hoping that someone can recommend some erotic massage places within walking distance from here.

Also, how much should I expect to pay for massage with happy ending?

Do I pay everything to a mama-san or do I pay the girl?

Thank you very much for your help.

I'll be stopping by Seoul in February for a couple days and had a few questions that I was hoping the more experienced here would be able to answer.

First off I'm Korean and can speak Korean fluently, I grew up in the states. I hope this makes some things easier for me.

I'm interested in particular in the Full Salons / Room Salons. However, is it OK to go on my own or will that be weird / awkward? Also if I do go, I'd want to go to one where the 2 cha is very likely to happen. Any recs would be greatly appreciated. I'd potentially be interested in Delivery / officetel incalls as well. But don't know where or how to find them. Basically, I'm interested in 18-25, very attractive girls, and I don't mind paying a "premium" over places like hooker hill to go to a nicer / more high end place.

If anyone can give me some advice, that would be awesome!

Hi,

I will be spending a weekend in Seoul next month.

I have already planed a visit to hooker hill but the one thing I'm the most interested in is Kiss bangs.

I am familiar with it (been there years ago) but it is very difficult to find information online about where such venues are located.

Also, they may not all accept foreigners.

If a member knows any good recommendation for kiss bangs, can you please share it.

Also where would you recommend I get an hotel (close to kiss bangs and lip cafes venues) ?

Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=Clefairy;2126676]Hi,

I will be spending a weekend in Seoul next month.

I have already planed a visit to hooker hill but the one thing I'm the most interested in is Kiss bangs.

I am familiar with it (been there years ago) but it is very difficult to find information online about where such venues are located.

Also, they may not all accept foreigners.

If a member knows any good recommendation for kiss bangs, can you please share it.

Also where would you recommend I get an hotel (close to kiss bangs and lip cafes venues) ?

Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]Found the following link online [URL]https://goo.gl/DbJdJL[/URL].

You probably can cross check with Google Maps to see if the shops still there (just go to Street View and try to look for big K signs for kissbang).

Places that I have read positive reviews are K+ and the Hongdae one.

Hotel, just get ones that are near train lines.

[QUOTE=Xnfotl;2126420]I'll be stopping by Seoul in February for a couple days and had a few questions that I was hoping the more experienced here would be able to answer.

First off I'm Korean and can speak Korean fluently, although I'm a gyopo and grew up in the states. I hope this makes some things easier for me.

I'm interested in particular in the Full Salons / Room Salons. However, is it OK to go on my own or will that be weird / awkward? Also if I do go, I'd want to go to one where the 2 cha is very likely to happen. Any recs would be greatly appreciated. I'd potentially be interested in Delivery / officetel incalls as well. But don't know where or how to find them. Basically, I'm interested in young (18-25), very attractive girls, and I don't mind paying a "premium" over places like hooker hill to go to a nicer / more high end place.

If anyone can give me some advice, that would be awesome![/QUOTE]Fellow Gyopo here, I'll be in Seoul around the same time. If you feel awkward going alone I'd be down to join you. PM if interested.

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[QUOTE=Gatsbyx78;2124705]What does +2 or +3 next to a name stand for on those advertisement on Adal5?[/QUOTE]No offense, but this was covered in some previous posts. Basically, there is a base rate (usually 130 k KRW) and the +2/+3 indicates how much more, on top of the base rate, the charge is. Ex: if a girl has +2, and the base rate is 130 k, then you would pay 150 k KRW.

D+ value does not indicate how good the service is, or how pretty the girl will be. They individually set the rate. I've seen +7 girls that were just OK and +3 girls that were awesome.

Also, if you don't speak Korean, and more importantly are a foreigner, you will have a hard time (if not impossible time) booking an appointment. Some girls and bookers straight up refuse to book non-Koreans. Even as a gyopo you can occasionally get turned away.

Can anyone comment how Cheongnyangni is doing these days? The last time I went there was many years ago and I heard about government crackdowns, shame though, they had such pretty girls.

Most forum bros seem to be talking about kiss bang and lip cafes these days, which I kind of have reservations going into since I don't speak the language, so just wondering how Cheongnyangni is doing.

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;2128713]Can anyone comment how Cheongnyangni is doing these days? The last time I went there was many years ago and I heard about government crackdowns, shame though, they had such pretty girls.

Most forum bros seem to be talking about kiss bang and lip cafes these days, which I kind of have reservations going into since I don't speak the language, so just wondering how Cheongnyangni is doing.[/QUOTE]It's all closed. I went there in April 2017 and it's all been torn down and being prepared for redevelopment.

From Eonju station take Bongeunsa-ro up the hill just past the Burger King. Less than a block away, you can see a sign for Rainbow Massage on between the 3rd and 4th floors. Walk through the car drive through. You will see a passage leading to the elevator and a sign with Pandora.

I had someone approach me after I got close. He took me up the elevator to the 3rd floor. 280 k was the price, 300 k for credit card. I was shown my own room change and wait. One of the guys came back and took me back on the elevator to another floor, led me to the room, and knocked. The girl was probably in her late 20's, attractive. The cleaning up table shower process was lengthy and included the mandatory teeth brushing, even though there was no kissing. She performed a nuru body slide briefly while on the table and also provided a short cat bath.

After all that, we finally adjoured to the room for full service including BBBJ.

I took one for the team here because I hadn't read anything about Rainbow Massage. It was a solid experience and foreigner friendly, but overpriced in my opinion. I would go back here only after exhausting other good options.

Directly across from Jinju massage is a place called Loren. I saw a couple of 9's and 10's walk in the door and made a point to check it out.

When I entered, I saw a couple of the ladies dressed in cocktail dresses. I was quickly told that it is a place for Japanese men only. It would be interesting to check out further. If I had to guess, I would say that it probably a place to pick a woman or two in order to take to your Norebang for some singing and private fun.

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;2128713]Can anyone comment how Cheongnyangni is doing these days? The last time I went there was many years ago and I heard about government crackdowns, shame though, they had such pretty girls.

Most forum bros seem to be talking about kiss bang and lip cafes these days, which I kind of have reservations going into since I don't speak the language, so just wondering how Cheongnyangni is doing.[/QUOTE]I'll do one better since I walked through a few weeks ago for shits and giggles. All boarded up, shops are no longer open. Nothing left of the place. SHame since it was a decent place to go during the daytime for datytime.

Hey guys,

Was wondering if anybody might be able to help me out.

I'm looking to go to a Lip cafe, preferably in / near Changdong, but I'm willing to travel out. Theres tons listed on adal, but my Korean is limited and I don't have a phone number. Would anyone be able to give me directions to one for walk in? Do lip cafes take walk in?

[QUOTE=Dmhmak;2129211]Hey guys,

Was wondering if anybody might be able to help me out.

I'm looking to go to a Lip cafe, preferably in / near Changdong, but I'm willing to travel out. Theres tons listed on adal, but my Korean is limited and I don't have a phone number. Would anyone be able to give me directions to one for walk in? Do lip cafes take walk in?[/QUOTE]When I lived in Korea for six months in 2013 I was able to find a lip cafe in Hongdae by searching the web (I can read and understand basic Korean, so that helps). This place accepted walk ins, but sometimes I had to wait 20-30 min.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2123367]Visiting Korea, stopped by the Hill, first time in 1 year and a half. Saw Bean at Avante Garde. She was trying to hustle me for 150,000, but I was firm at 100,000. Was surprised at how much she was trying to hustle me since I'd been a customer since 2006, but when we got to her room, it was business as usual. No clock-watching, pretty good time, an ATF and freakishly large hips for a Korean girl. She complained about other girls trying to get in on the scene and the fewer clubs open now. A lot of girls trying for threesome action to get paid. Not my scene, but might be interesting with the right girls.

A few nights later, went to Ambrosia where a nice looking Korean girl with nice body and no tits took me to her hotel room down the street beside Hyundai Sauna. Paid 100 K, nice DATY with a shaved kitty, good BBFS, finished and out the door. Nice personality and a good time, I repeated a few days later.

Looked for Kay at Happy Days, but a girl named Sara was working instead. Nice face and body, but had excess skin around her mid-section possibly from excessive weight loss. Couldn't make out where she was from, Russia? Half-Korean, Half-American? She said she was from Hannam and went to school there, so I guessed that was it. Very self-conscious of the flabby skin, but I didn't mind and she was real nice DATY, very enthusiastic. BBFS felt great, the best on the Hill. Finished, got dressed, and ran into Kay going out the door! We chatted over a Jack and Coke and unfortunately wouldn't be able to see her since I left before she worked the next weekend. I did repeat with Sara a few days later and it was similarly nice.

Went to the top of the hill at the Shamrock and Venezuelan girl was working. She's always got those huge hips and ass that are irresistible. I massaged her and put on the condom for FS. She always has stubble on her legs and her cooch is like banging a porcupine. I've visited her a few times over the years, but can't say it's really worth it. Not even sure she's not a TS, but oh well.

The Hill scene has changed drastically since I last visited in April 2016. Eve, Debut Bar, Texas Club were all boarded up and closed. Cheers was holding out, but only one fat girl worked there when I walked in, compared to previously when 2-3 relatively hot barracudas worked there and were ready to part you from your money. VIP across the street had 3-4 girls working, including my old ATF. The girls were pretty nice looking, but too crowded with too many girls (and johns), a small cubicle separating the action, and too pricey. I declined and went on my way. No change to Ambrosia or Moonshine, or those up the Hill at Avante Garde, Happy Days, or across at Lara's. Quite a few more Koreans at the top of the Hill with the club there and strangely a Yakult yogurt office now at what once was Polly's.

On the main strip perpendicular from the Hill, most shops were not open. I waited until midnight one night and probably only half of the places were open. Eventually, I was able to go into the Texas Bar (formerly Evergreen) and talked to Soo-Ae. Across the street at Tiffany, Candy was working. Up the hill at Pandora, someone was working in the early morning on one night, but I was never able to see who it was. Nymph was never open on the 4-5 trips I took to the Hill. At Candy bar, a girl was working that previously worked at Shamrock, Texas, and other bars. The other girl at Candy's wasn't that attractive and I had never seen before. One girl worked at Apple, but she didn't appeal to me, so I didn't hang around.

All in all, a lot of changes to the Hill scene, but still some good action to be had. Was kind of disappointed at the slow scene, but maybe just the holidays, cold weather, etc.

P.S.- someone wrote about possibly getting "freebies" from Hill girls. That'll never happen. These girls work for their money, they even call themselves 'working girls' and don't give a damn how good looking or 'special' you are. IDK, I could be wrong. I've been going there for over 18 years now and only once had a girl give my friend, a real good-looking dude, a BJ on the house.[/QUOTE]Great, informative post. Makes me reminisce about the old days when throngs of "business girls" crowded the Hill area, $10 for a short time. Guess the best Asian countries now are the Philippines and Thailand.

Hello,

Will be in Seoul in 4 weeks for a couple of day. This is my first time there. I am staying ibis Ambassador Seoul Myeongdong. Is there any massage places that offer extras in a walking distance? From recent reports, I read about some place near City Hall. Is it still available? Would appreciate any other recommendations.

Thank you.

John.

I have a flight at around 8:30 AM at Incheon airport and I will be in airport around 11 PM the day before. I just wanted to know if there are any RLD to check out nearby to Incheon airport (once I drop of my luggage in a counter in airport), And also are there any good lip cafes, barber shops or anmas nearby to airport where I can cut some time off?

[QUOTE=NewHash;2127884]Fellow Gyopo here, I'll be in Seoul around the same time. If you feel awkward going alone I'd be down to join you. PM if interested.[/QUOTE]When will you be there? Might be down to check out a full salon or something. Looks like I got to buy a membership to PM you (and you need to have it as well), wanted to double check before I buy it.

I'll be traveling around the country from the 4th thru 9th. Then I'll be in Seoul until the 17th. If that lines up with your schedule I'll spring for the membership as well.

[QUOTE=Xnfotl;2130579]When will you be there? Might be down to check out a full salon or something. Looks like I got to buy a membership to PM you (and you need to have it as well), wanted to double check before I buy it.[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

Any recs for Korean websites to find lip cafes? I'm actually in Busan, but the boards pretty dry and the only site I know, 18 sadan, also seems dead.

Went to itaewon for the first time today, way too early to see any action, seems like lots of t bars though, will try again tomorrow night.

Went to cheonho, after a few rounds of walking, saw one that got my interest but she didn't take foreigners, fml.

Anyone around want to grab a drink at itaewon tomorrow night let me know.

I'm in Seoul for the next week, I'm Korean but my Hangul is quite weak. Does anyone have any advice on where to find places that might be gyopo friendly / what to say? Also down for meet ups.

Hi,

I'll be in Seoul for a 4 hour layover from 24th to 25th Feb. Was wondering what times are the best for visiting Miari Texas? I know the location and how to get there. I read a report that at 8 pm there wasn't much action. If any punters can let me know I'll be very grateful.

[QUOTE=BigCat13;2141194]Hi,

I'll be in Seoul for a 4 hour layover from 24th to 25th Feb. Was wondering what times are the best for visiting Miari Texas? I know the location and how to get there. I read a report that at 8 pm there wasn't much action. If any punters can let me know I'll be very grateful.[/QUOTE]It won't look like it but there will be action at 8 pm. But there will not be as much as if you go at 10 pm. Saturday will be a lot better than Sunday.

[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2141926]It won't look like it but there will be action at 8 pm. But there will not be as much as if you go at 10 pm. Saturday will be a lot better than Sunday.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I mistyped, I'll be there for 14 hours. Will try and hit it around 10 pm.

Another question, what's the success rate for a Japanese / Chinese looking guy with no Korean skills. I've read that there's racism against certain Asian countries but I'm assuming it's more Central or SEA countries.

It seems a common request on this board is for the location of lip cafes, esp from those w / o any Korean ability. I also don't speak Korean.

Would seniors be willing to post lip cafe locations in Gangnam and other frequented areas? Thanks a million!

[QUOTE=BigCat13;2142201]Thanks for the info. I mistyped, I'll be there for 14 hours. Will try and hit it around 10 pm.

Another question, what's the success rate for a Japanese / Chinese looking guy with no Korean skills. I've read that there's racism against certain Asian countries but I'm assuming it's more Central or SEA countries.[/QUOTE]If you go to Texas Miari, you should be fine. In that area, your wallet and manners are all they really care about.

[QUOTE=Jolem;2142857]It seems a common request on this board is for the location of lip cafes, esp from those w / o any Korean ability. I also don't speak Korean.

Would seniors be willing to post lip cafe locations in Gangnam and other frequented areas? Thanks a million![/QUOTE]Please do share here or PM me. Thanks!

BTW I'll be in Seoul this week if anyone is around & wants to meet up.

[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2142858]If you go to Texas Miari, you should be fine. In that area, your wallet and manners are all they really care about.[/QUOTE]Thanks bud. Will give it a go.

[QUOTE=Jolem;2142857]It seems a common request on this board is for the location of lip cafes, esp from those w / o any Korean ability. I also don't speak Korean.

Would seniors be willing to post lip cafe locations in Gangnam and other frequented areas? Thanks a million![/QUOTE]There's this map that was posted on another thread. [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1N0jAIFYROgrc6u_gn-jqF84BQ98&hl=en_US&ll=37.48928060703152%2C126.48480390347254&z=13[/URL].

However there was a reply by another poster that quite a few places were pinned incorrectly. Any help would be greatly appreciated by seasoned punters.

I had a long layover in Seoul this past weekend and decided to try out Miari Texas. It's up and running and the previous reports are accurate.

For those trying to find it, from Incheon airport take bus number 6101 from exit 7. Cost was 14,000 won. This bus takes you directly to Gireum station. Be careful to keep an ear out for the announcement. I missed the stop and had to get off at holiday inn and took a bus back.

If going by train take the airport train to Seoul station and transfer to Line 4 to Gireum station Exit 10. Once you walk up the stairs, talk immediate right you-turn then walk about 20 metres. Then hook a left down a small flight of stairs and along a tunnel. Entrance to Miari is on your left with half curtains.

I'm Asian and passed off as Korean to mamasans but was denied service by some once they found out I wasn't Korean. The area is dark with limited lighting. I saw a foreigner get denied straightaway. He did ask a mamasan right at the entrance which wasn't the best idea. I'the recommend punters go into the bowels of the area and not walk along the footpath parallel to the main road with highway over head.

I looked in some places and the women were either chubby or oldish say late 20's to mid 30's. Service was so so. Nothing to write home about. Cost was 100,000. On the wall there were two prices 90,000 and 100,000. I went very late so I'm guessing I paid the late fee.

Good luck all.

I have been having Candy over at Tiffany bar off and on over the past few weeks. She is generally always a good value- nice body, good skills, quite friendly. These days though it seems her mind is on something else. (well, obviously, a lot of girls minds are on something else ha). But something is a bit different about her. She seems stressed out and offering what are for her somewhat sub par services.

But the options we have appear pretty small. Has anyone noticed the escorts are now heading from 400,000 an hour? When is this bubble going to pop? Is this just a scam to rip off foreigners or are Korean guys paying this too? When I was in Thailand, I noticed Korean and Japanese will drop money on ladies without argument or bargaining. Not even just rich guys, but all guys. It certainly is a shock. I was wondering if girls hear about that kind of behavior abroad and think Korea is some kind of land of milk and honey for working girls. I think you'd be hard pressed to find westerners willing to pay that much for what in my experience is very very average service from okay looking girls. Just mind boggling.

I also have frequented the massage joints around Pyeongtaek station. I believe Sky Massage has stocked some nice Thai milfs and Chinese. They would ask 20-40,000 for a quickie, and service varied. Some girls tried to ask 100,000 and I said a firm "no" not because I think it's too much, but because these girls who try to highball at those places will also try to get away with the worst service. The first Thai MILF I had was very nice and actually blew me for free (I guess expecting a tip, which I of course gave generously) and the first Chinese girl I had there was nice as well and also gave a bit of GFE. I Thought of taking them out, but when I did get one of their numbers, it was the highballer girl who said she was moving to Daegu soon. Apparently like a lot of these places, there was a revolving door. Oh, and the price of the massage can be between 60-90,000. So it's really up to you if it is worth it.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2147182]I have been having Candy over at Tiffany bar off and on over the past few weeks. She is generally always a good value- nice body, good skills, quite friendly. These days though it seems her mind is on something else. (well, obviously, a lot of girls minds are on something else ha). But something is a bit different about her. She seems stressed out and offering what are for her somewhat sub par services.

But the options we have appear pretty small. Has anyone noticed the escorts are now heading from 400,000 an hour? When is this bubble going to pop? Is this just a scam to rip off foreigners or are Korean guys paying this too? When I was in Thailand, I noticed Korean and Japanese will drop money on ladies without argument or bargaining. Not even just rich guys, but all guys. It certainly is a shock. I was wondering if girls hear about that kind of behavior abroad and think Korea is some kind of land of milk and honey for working girls. I think you'd be hard pressed to find westerners willing to pay that much for what in my experience is very very average service from okay looking girls. Just mind boggling..[/QUOTE]I noticed some escorts on cracker advertising for 300 k an hour who got a good review and their prices jumped to 400 k and then 500 k in the space of two weeks. I saw this with several escorts who had similar style profiles. I think its an agency ploy to move prices up over the board. Let clients see ads for 500 k and then they might start to accept changes from 250 k to 270 k or 280 k. So I think the agencies are trying to get clients used to an upward price spiral.

What's happening is the girls and agencies are not getting customers anymore. People are voting with their wallets, dicks and feet. How prices can double within a few months, with zero increase in the quality of services offered, is a complete psychological mystery to me.

Instead of realising they've lost and the bubble has popped, the greed in escorts and agencies won't allow them to lower their prices. They would rather heap on the cost of lost customers on the (very) few remaining clueless tourists willing to take a gamble on one shot and shit services.

I'm seeing 400 k-800 k PER SHOT and laughing as I book my next weekend trip to Pattaya for less than that (flights and hotel). The delusion is strong in Korea LOL!

[QUOTE=RainMania;2148300]Instead of realising they've lost and the bubble has popped, the greed in escorts and agencies won't allow them to lower their prices. They would rather heap on the cost of lost customers on the (very) few remaining clueless tourists willing to take a gamble on one shot and shit services.

I'm seeing 400 k-800 k PER SHOT and laughing as I book my next weekend trip to Pattaya for less than that (flights and hotel). The delusion is strong in Korea LOL![/QUOTE]I saw "pretty Jeni" when she was 250 an hour. She has doubled her rate in 2 months which is nuts. I'm guessing it might have to do with other stuff like BDSM or toys. She isn't an agency girl. She is in her mid 30's and has a nice incall. No rush good English and is fun but a bit too annoying for my tastes. I can see how she could be getting repeat customers.

I would guess that anyone charging 400 or more an hour is actually an independent. Some girls are probably fine with one customer a night or 3 or 4 a week so why not charge more.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2148300]What's happening is the girls and agencies are not getting customers anymore. People are voting with their wallets, dicks and feet. How prices can double within a few months, with zero increase in the quality of services offered, is a complete psychological mystery to me.[/QUOTE]I see four ads of 500 an hour girls that look very similar. I think they are all independents who can charge that much because they are in a completely different league from agency girls and are getting repeat business. Come on its Seoul a lot of foreigners with money to burn not to hard to understand.

There isn't any value in cracker. I know that but I still go with it once a month don't pay more than 250 and I know how to avoid agency girls. Had a great young girl last month. A few months ago had a horrible girl. The mongers life.

There are very few genuine korean independents on those sites.

No self-respecting korean mongerer would pay that much per shot for an unknown independent, when they can pay the same money and get themselves a few hours with failed k-pop star or a trainee that is yet to debut. They can go to officetels where 250 k will get them at least 2 shots with a girl under 23 yrs. Most of those advertising on crackr and massage republic are girls from south east Asia.

These girls and agencies are banking on the ignorance and laziness of foreign visitors to Korea, because those guys don't know any better.

250 k per shot (one hour is one shot) with this lot is an abysmal rate to be paying, let alone 400 600 or even 800. The last girl that was worth that kind of money per shot, in my experience, was Sarah Miehn. I just can't justify paying that much when I can blow my load 3-4 times in miari for the same amount.

Or better still, not monger for 4-6 weeks and use the saved money to tap some legitimate 18-20 year old beauties to my heart's desire in Bangkok / Pattaya / Manila / Angeles / Cebu.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2148617]No self-respecting korean mongerer would pay that much per shot for an unknown independent, when they can pay the same money and get themselves a few hours with failed k-pop star or a trainee that is yet to debut. They can go to officetels where 250 k will get them at least 2 shots with a girl under 23 yrs. Most of those advertising on crackr and massage republic are girls from south east Asia.

These girls and agencies are banking on the ignorance and laziness of foreign visitors to Korea, because those guys don't know any better.[/QUOTE]It all depends what experience you are after and what money you have to spend. I'm good with your views on this. Just pointing out what I know or am pretty certain is true, that independents are on cracker and can be identified pretty easily, and that the high prices ones are definitely indies, like Sarah who charges three or four times what she used to. Rolling the dice on an indy is part of fun for some mongers, clearly not for you.

Hi all,

Been browsing the posts around here and wondering if there are any specific recommendations for outcall services besides bohemian?

I recently ran into this: [URL]http://seoul.cracker.com/FemaleEscorts/n-e-w-korea-best-agency-super-hot-playmate-perfectly-toned-n-e-w/5204003[/URL].

I already know the basic warning about cracker and know my way around it but just like to see what other mongrs think.

Thanks in advance, by the way, the cracker scene in Korea seems to be 1000% better than Jpn. Jpn is all trannies. Count your blessings.

Hi everyone,

I'm a foreigner looking for a good massage parlor in Itaewon. I'm so sick of cracker site fake pictures and poor service. Any recommendations?

[QUOTE=RafaelX12;2152351]Hi all,

Been browsing the posts around here and wondering if there are any specific recommendations for outcall services besides bohemian?

I recently ran into this: [URL]http://seoul.cracker.com/FemaleEscorts/n-e-w-korea-best-agency-super-hot-playmate-perfectly-toned-n-e-w/5204003[/URL].

I already know the basic warning about cracker and know my way around it but just like to see what other mongrs think.

Thanks in advance, by the way, the cracker scene in Korea seems to be 1000% better than Jpn. Jpn is all trannies. Count your blessings.[/QUOTE]What is that agency charging? 400 to 600 u. S an hour?? LMFAO.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2152686]What is that agency charging? 400 to 600 u. S an hour?? LMFAO.[/QUOTE]I know it's crazy. I have been trying to find the best agency in Seoul but I keep find fake pictures and poor service. They expect f foreigners to pay for anything they see. Preventing things we as a community must let them know it's unacceptable. Now I only see Thailand girls as freelancer or Latinas that visit here for a few weeks.

On a side where's the good message parlors in the Itaewon area. I'm willing to outside areas if they are worth going.

Thanks guys and happy hunting.

Has anybody tried the escort outcall service? I searched "seoul escorts" using google and several came out. Any of them good? Real pics?

Petitseoul, seoulescort4, primeseoul1, mkescort1.

Can anybody recommend?

I like the idea of escorts service, it's very convenience, delivery to your hotel. I have always used escort outcall whenever I visit China and Japan, many times.

Visiting Seoul in 2 weeks time, looking for good places within walking distance from Myeong Dong Station that offer full services to non Korean speaking foreigners. PM is active, will appreciate tips from fellow mongers.

[QUOTE=HornyDong;2152797]Has anybody tried the escort outcall service? I searched "seoul escorts" using google and several came out. Any of them good? Real pics?

Petitseoul, seoulescort4, primeseoul1, mkescort1.

Can anybody recommend?

I like the idea of escorts service, it's very convenience, delivery to your hotel. I have always used escort outcall whenever I visit China and Japan, many times.[/QUOTE]It's a hit and miss, mostly miss, IMO. SK, has beautiful and sexy women, but you can't compare China and Japan to SK for escort "outcalls" or anything monoging because of cultural differences, photo taking and view and treatment of foreigners (I'm black) limited to, but not all. 90% of all online ads say the following things "real pictures" and "independent" again 90% are straight up misleading. Now, service SMH and LMFAO 1 HR 1 shots starting 250-300 w. Enough said. Lastly, save your money and time for those locals like China, Japan, Thailand and the Philippines. IMO.

Happy Hunting for a great night of "dreams" and experience.

P.S. I live here in Seoul.

For a FS massage, your best bet is MVP-VIP massage in Gangnam. 120 k search this forum for directions. Gangnam station exit 5 go straight first right and again first right go about 50 m look to your right. P.S. Don't expect to get a massage. Be responsible and respectful or they will stop letting foreign in or close shop. Do a cracker search for 28. Thai girl very good service.

[QUOTE=Aquarius1981;2152920]It's a hit and miss, mostly miss, IMO. SK, has beautiful and sexy women, but you can't compare China and Japan to SK for escort "outcalls" or anything monoging because of cultural differences, photo taking and view and treatment of foreigners (I'm black) limited to, but not all. 90% of all online ads say the following things "real pictures" and "independent" again 90% are straight up misleading. Now, service SMH and LMFAO 1 HR 1 shots starting 250-300 w. Enough said. Lastly, save your money and time for those locals like China, Japan, Thailand and the Philippines. IMO.

Happy Hunting for a great night of "dreams" and experience.

P.S. I live here in Seoul.[/QUOTE]I don't think Japan is any better than here. Maybe even worse.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2153192]I don't think Japan is any better than here. Maybe even worse.[/QUOTE]In what aspect, B/ C they seem to have thousands of girls working via online and or parlors.

[QUOTE=OralSea;2153016]For a FS massage, your best bet is MVP-VIP massage in Gangnam. 120 k search this forum for directions. Gangnam station exit 5 go straight first right and again first right go about 50 m look to your right. P.S. Don't expect to get a massage. Be responsible and respectful or they will stop letting foreign in or close shop. Do a cracker search for 28. Thai girl very good service.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the helpful information, but the search is coming up empty for directions and reports. I was trying to go now. Its 2 am with no where to go SMH.

Can anyone help or drop line. Telling me which page to go too. Thanks again.

Oh boy what a night. 3 hrs 4 shots later. That's just my living room. SMH! You got to love it.

So, late last I was pretty disappointed. Their's a reason why I never been to the "hill" around 2 am nothing worth reporting. Maybe 6 total women and twice a many transgenders. What ever happen to the big booty girl that I use to hear so much about a few years ago?

Things are about to changes on this forum, LOL!

[QUOTE=Aquarius1981;2152920]It's a hit and miss, mostly miss, IMO. SK, has beautiful and sexy women, but you can't compare China and Japan to SK for escort "outcalls" or anything monoging because of cultural differences, photo taking and view and treatment of foreigners (I'm black) limited to, but not all. 90% of all online ads say the following things "real pictures" and "independent" again 90% are straight up misleading. Now, service SMH and LMFAO 1 HR 1 shots starting 250-300 w. Enough said. Lastly, save your money and time for those locals like China, Japan, Thailand and the Philippines. IMO.

Happy Hunting for a great night of "dreams" and experience.

P.S. I live here in Seoul.[/QUOTE]Outcalls in Korea are pretty much a ripoff. Not sure why people opt for them other than convenience? Also, I was wondering what your experience / overall hit ratio has been like being black in Korea. Most native Koreans I know are pretty xenophobic in general, the officetel girls I've seen and talked to in Korea oftentimes will refuse foreigners (Caucasian too). I've heard that when 588 was open and the other RLDs will have some girls that will take non-Asians, but it seems its a very small segment.

[QUOTE=Aquarius1981;2153588]So, late last I was pretty disappointed. Their's a reason why I never been to the "hill" around 2 am nothing worth reporting. Maybe 6 total women and twice a many transgenders. What ever happen to the big booty girl that I use to hear so much about a few years ago?

Things are about to changes on this forum, LOL![/QUOTE]Are you talking about Bean? She's still around I saw her a few weeks ago. As far as the hill goes her and Kaye are the best imo!

[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2154221]Outcalls in Korea are pretty much a ripoff. Not sure why people opt for them other than convenience? Also, I was wondering what your experience / overall hit ratio has been like being black in Korea. Most native Koreans I know are pretty xenophobic in general, the officetel girls I've seen and talked to in Korea oftentimes will refuse foreigners (Caucasian too). I've heard that when 588 was open and the other RLDs will have some girls that will take non-Asians, but it seems its a very small segment.[/QUOTE]Nother Monger. Depends! I have found success on cracker, only requesting outcalls from foreigners. Mostly women from South America (wow), Europe (very expensive), Philippines (okay) and Thailand (great service). Just have to watch out for the "ladyboys" and those that are "man made". I try my best not to contact agencies which mean 85% on the "independent" Korean girls are managed or they belong to some form of agencies. Those are the "ripsoff" expensive and poor service to include the least attractive k-girls. NM, you said it best. Flat-out "refuse" foreign men. The very few k-girls that I have met, about 11. Only 2 was worth call back. Majority of them say they don't like foreigners because the are bigger and "sex is long time" LOL! SMH!

My overall experience with k-girls from above mentioned site. Low 20% The sad thing is. The women that I see around town are very attractive and those very few that are SO VERY SEXY. Leaves me wondering. If I ever come across her, SMH. I'll be broke.

So, I got some decent Intel about a few girls that maybe worth checking out. So, I decided to venture out early Saturday morning about 230 am. To my surprise night clubs and bars all up and down the "hill". Nevertheless, the intel was good. There she was the infamous "Bean" all 5 ft and big booty, LOL! She, invited me in. I kinda felt bad because just other night, I quick turned down her friends. As they gave be that look. Shit just like most of you when you feel guilty, try not to made eye contact. Once I was in we shared a drink or two as we negotiated time and service (120 k) I opted for the backroom. Once, we were in the backroom. I got comfortable as did she, with the respone "oh, wow. You bring black snake" as she measure it with her forearm we both laugh. Service include CBJ, MISH, DOGGIE and lazy dog. All-in-all it was kool, but I don't know if I'm going back or not.

Thanks to the Senior Member with that good Intel.

As I reply and write reports tonight, I got the urge to venture out. So, I took the advice of a senior member. After quickly ending below reports. I hopped in the shower and I was out the door hailing a cab. 20 mins later I was at Gangnam station exit 5, after a quick double right. I was at. You guessed it a "Karaoke" spot. They knew I was not at the right place, as quickly shown me the door. After regrouping I enter the building again going to level B1. BAM! MVP-VIP I pressed the button the door slid open. A gentlemen show me to my room, where said "40 mins massage and sex" agree to 120 k; 140 k if you pay with card. I hopped in the shower, once I was done I pressed a button on the wall and 60 sec later a very thin lady knock on my door. I always enjoy the reactions of different women. I wasn't sure if she was more entertain by my chest hair or my "sword" she played with my chest hair and sword for a good 10-15 mins as if she hasn't seen any like it. Anyways HJ, CBJ, CG, MISH, limited Doggie and Lazy Dog. All-in-all, I don't know if I will return. Just use to the convenience and comfort of my place. It's kinda hard to explain.

Thanks to the Senior Member that recommended MVP-VIP.

Now I'm off to watch last night episode of the Walking Dead.

P.S. As I left I use google translate to tell the manager "next girl big booty" he just smiled and said, yes.

He bros,

I'm Senior Member but mainly experienced in Manila and Bangkok, a bit in Saigon too.

I will be in Seoul in April. Is there any brother to meet and exchange. It will be my first experience in Seoul.

For my places, if we are together, I can guide you and give you numbers. I like petite, slim if not skinny, small breast. So if you like the same, let me know.

[QUOTE=Aquarius1981;2155298]So, I got some decent Intel about a few girls that maybe worth checking out. So, I decided to venture out early Saturday morning about 230 am. To my surprise night clubs and bars all up and down the "hill". Nevertheless, the intel was good. There she was the infamous "Bean" all 5 ft and big booty, LOL! She, invited me in. I kinda felt bad because just other night, I quick turned down her friends. As they gave be that look. Shit just like most of you when you feel guilty, try not to made eye contact. Once I was in we shared a drink or two as we negotiated time and service (120 k) I opted for the backroom. Once, we were in the backroom. I got comfortable as did she, with the respone "oh, wow. You bring black snake" as she measure it with her forearm we both laugh. Service include CBJ, MISH, DOGGIE and lazy dog. All-in-all it was kool, but I don't know if I'm going back or not.

Thanks to the Senior Member with that good Intel.[/QUOTE]Intel was good but not that good. Bean can be negotiated down to 80 K, 100 K max. But glad that you enjoyed her. More of a Latina body than typical Korean but she does know how to f**k.

Decided on the room salon since it was the cheapest. Line up was on 3 girls not sure if its because I don't speak Korean or not. Picked the prettiest one out of the three or at least what I concerned to be. She mixed the whiskey with eater guess to make it weaker not sure why, some BBBJ and since we were hot for each other went to the room early. At the end the guys didn't know where my hotel was and told me to get a taxi and I'm thinking you drove me here and have GPS what the hell. Also the servers wanted a tip so be prepared if you decide to go this route. Wanted to see what a room salon was all about, waste of time. I'll stick with other places if you can't speak Korean.

[QUOTE=Kagasain;2157693]Decided on the room salon since it was the cheapest. Line up was on 3 girls not sure if its because I don't speak Korean or not. Picked the prettiest one out of the three or at least what I concerned to be. She mixed the whiskey with eater guess to make it weaker not sure why, some BBBJ and since we were hot for each other went to the room early. At the end the guys didn't know where my hotel was and told me to get a taxi and I'm thinking you drove me here and have GPS what the hell. Also the servers wanted a tip so be prepared if you decide to go this route. Wanted to see what a room salon was all about, waste of time. I'll stick with other places if you can't speak Korean.[/QUOTE]Was it expensive?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2157854]Was it expensive?[/QUOTE]5 usd not sure if that's for everyone or each. Might be why they didn't want to take me home if I was with a group I'm sure they would had. Wasn't bad I just didn't like the service at the end. Could had went to a regular karaoke room gotten more drinks and take a chance with the girl for less money.

[QUOTE=Kagasain;2157880]5 usd not sure if that's for everyone or each. Might be why they didn't want to take me home if I was with a group I'm sure they would had. Wasn't bad I just didn't like the service at the end. Could had went to a regular karaoke room gotten more drinks and take a chance with the girl for less money.[/QUOTE]You mean 500 usd?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2158094]You mean 500 usd?[/QUOTE]Yes it was 500 usd.

Hi everyone,

I'm not new the hobby but I'm obviously inexperienced with the Korean scene.

I'll be in Korea starting March 29th until end of June and was hoping to get some recommendations. I'm also down to meet and hang out if you guys do that kind of thing. I'll even buy you a drink as a friendly gesture.

I'll report back on any recommendations I follow through with just to return the favor. Note, I'm Asian American and I look kinda Korean but I'm not Korean but unfortunately don't speak Korean yet.

I've skimmed the past info and will be looking for MVP-VIP as well as Belle.

I read somewhere there might be areas with costumed girls. Are there places like that in Seoul or nearby areas?

Is Itaewon worth going to anymore? I was there once a year ago and hated the place.

[QUOTE=Aquarius1981;2153251]In what aspect, B/ C they seem to have thousands of girls working via online and or parlors.[/QUOTE]The best of the best are in room salons but unless you speak Korean or go with locals, it's generally not readily accessible to foreigners. That said, having about a dozen room salon experiences, quality wise you're getting about what you'd see in a top tier Thai soapy, with a Korean twist on the playfulness / flavor / etc. , so it's not like it's some kind of untouchable magical seventh heaven you're missing out on. Have done the whole Ace, Fish, and Eve Anma experience in Gangnam, and while foreigners do have access here, this is definitely the B and C team scraps. Feels like what they do in Japan in a lot of soaplands where the girls are mostly the ones the locals don't want any more.

[QUOTE=DashRiprock;2158721]The best of the best are in room salons but unless you speak Korean or go with locals, it's generally not readily accessible to foreigners. That said, having about a dozen room salon experiences, quality wise you're getting about what you'd see in a top tier Thai soapy, with a Korean twist on the playfulness / flavor / etc. , so it's not like it's some kind of untouchable magical seventh heaven you're missing out on. Have done the whole Ace, Fish, and Eve Anma experience in Gangnam, and while foreigners do have access here, this is definitely the B and C team scraps. Feels like what they do in Japan in a lot of soaplands where the girls are mostly the ones the locals don't want any more.[/QUOTE]Dash,

Tell me more about the "Thai soapy massages" here in S. K. I have been to Thailand a few times. So, I well aware of Soapy massages. I never thought of Seoul or Gangnam having those types of places. Better yet, just put me on to the best places you have been, that are foreigner 'friendly". I have been to both MVP-VIP & H. Hill once. I'm trying not to go back, but if I have to I will. Plus cracker is drying up with foreign women visiting Korea. Theirs a few European women and one from South America, but there are asking for 1 HR 400,000 w+ w / 1 shot, SMH & LMFAO! Nah, I will pass.

Hey,

New here.

I've registered on adal6 and was just wondering if any foreigners have had success on the site? How did you go about doing it. My Korean is very limited.

[QUOTE=Aquarius1981;2159049]Dash,

Tell me more about the "Thai soapy massages" here in S. K. I have been to Thailand a few times. So, I well aware of Soapy massages. I never thought of Seoul or Gangnam having those types of places. Better yet, just put me on to the best places you have been, that are foreigner 'friendly". I have been to both MVP-VIP & H. Hill once. I'm trying not to go back, but if I have to I will. Plus cracker is drying up with foreign women visiting Korea. Theirs a few European women and one from South America, but there are asking for 1 HR 400,000 w+ w / 1 shot, SMH & LMFAO! Nah, I will pass.[/QUOTE]Aquarius. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I wasn't saying there are Thai style soapies in S. K. I was comparing the quality of girls that I have usually found in room salons to the quality of girls in Thai soapies. In general, the foreigner friendly places are the run of the mill anmas ala Fish and Ace. Room salons as you probably know are generally NOT foreigner friendly unless you go with Koreans, typically in a business meeting or after work type setting, OR you are Asian in appearance and speak basic Korean.

Now the fat girl on CR has upped her rates to 200 k per shot, plus extra for BBBJ, DFK etc (L-O-fucking L! It's got to stop being funny at some point.

The bizarro world of the korean escort scene continues!

[QUOTE=LMoohp2;2159134]Hey,

New here.

I've registered on adal6 and was just wondering if any foreigners have had success on the site? How did you go about doing it. My Korean is very limited.[/QUOTE]I hate to say it, but you will probably have some difficulty booking an officetel girl. First off, most of the time you will need to call them and speak Korean, secondly, most places are not foreigner friendly, except maybe the Russian outfits. A decent number of officetel girls I have talked to will refuse non-Koreans. Lastly, due to the government cracking down more and more on the online scene, most outfits will not pick up the phone for phone numbers they don't recognize. Assuming all the stars are lined up and you get through and you can communicate, you will probably be limited to who you can see.

[QUOTE=Lion55;2155770]Intel was good but not that good. Bean can be negotiated down to 80 K, 100 K max. But glad that you enjoyed her. More of a Latina body than typical Korean but she does know how to f**k.[/QUOTE]Yes, Bean wanted a lot more than 100 but she negotiated down to 100 (she wouldn't take 80 K on a slow Monday night) with no extras. I. e. Only CBJ, short time, no GFE. If you want the thicker thighs and ass, yes to her. I like do that but I preferred the effort of Kay as you see next.

My top girl in this report is Kay. Lean and quite tall for a Korean. Guess that she has see cup MM but I didn't see scars. For 100, she was totally GFE with kissing, BBBJ, and even CIM, YMMV. She has a more private place including shower / bathroom and didn't need to have a bunch of drinks first. She gave more more traditional service also with showering, cleaning, wiping, and offering water. She is no doubt my #1 in Itaewon. I think that I got lucky that we hit it off. So I would not expect the same level of service for what I received. YMMV.

Finally, Candy at Tiffany, her body looks good with or without lingerie, but she is definitely all business, as she wanted not less than 300 or 250 at the end of the night, besides pumping for 40 K won lady drinks. Honestly, I cannot imagine anyone having fun unless they want to throw down 250+. She is a convincing kisser if you are burning lots of won. She expects total more than 300 K, even on the slowest night. Maybe it has something to doing with being on the major street.

[QUOTE=RedWolf;2128869]Directly across from Jinju massage is a place called Loren. I saw a couple of 9's and 10's walk in the door and made a point to check it out.

When I entered, I saw a couple of the ladies dressed in cocktail dresses. I was quickly told that it is a place for Japanese men only. It would be interesting to check out further. If I had to guess, I would say that it probably a place to pick a woman or two in order to take to your Norebang for some singing and private fun.[/QUOTE]Jinju:

140 for a HJ woman followed by a solid hour massage and finished with another HJ. The first girl was younger and more mechanical. The second who gave the massage is more of a MILF in a school girl skirt. Great teasing. Didn't need as long as the woman in her 20's. I recommend #18 for massage as well as Jinju massage: professional, fun, and around the clock.

Went to Jinju / Pearl in Gangnam because I was staying again across it in Novotel.

Had an interesting experience, just like what just reported. 2 women, my experience was the first one was auntie that won't even look your junk because she asked you to keep your shorts / briefs on, then after about an hour, she will take it off under a towel and massage around it before tagging out and the 2nd woman will come in. She was younger, mid to late 20's quite attractive, definitely enhanced, she did removed her top and was topless. All in all, its a great massage plus a happy ending, not cheap (about 140 k I think, I don't speak Korean but I'm Asian). But that's what you expect in Seoul.

Maybe not necessary but, I tipped the guy showing me to the room after he asked me in English whether I know what kind of place this is, and I only smile. I asked him to bring someone good and he smile knowingly back.

Anyone knows what happened to Sarah Miehn? I was trying to book her but everything about her seemed to vanish.

[QUOTE=RedWolf;2159580]Yes, Bean wanted a lot more than 100 but she negotiated down to 100 (she wouldn't take 80 K on a slow Monday night) with no extras. I. e. Only CBJ, short time, no GFE. If you want the thicker thighs and ass, yes to her. I like do that but I preferred the effort of Kay as you see next.

My top girl in this report is Kay. Lean and quite tall for a Korean. Guess that she has see cup MM but I didn't see scars. For 100, she was totally GFE with kissing, BBBJ, and even CIM, YMMV. She has a more private place including shower / bathroom and didn't need to have a bunch of drinks first. She gave more more traditional service also with showering, cleaning, wiping, and offering water. She is no doubt my #1 in Itaewon. I think that I got lucky that we hit it off. So I would not expect the same level of service for what I received. YMMV.

Finally, Candy at Tiffany, her body looks good with or without lingerie, but she is definitely all business, as she wanted not less than 300 or 250 at the end of the night, besides pumping for 40 K won lady drinks. Honestly, I cannot imagine anyone having fun unless they want to throw down 250+. She is a convincing kisser if you are burning lots of won. She expects total more than 300 K, even on the slowest night. Maybe it has something to doing with being on the major street.[/QUOTE]Could you PM more details about Kay. I would really appreciate it!

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Sup all,

I just landed in Korea and will be here for about 2 weeks. Hoping to connect with a mongering buddy- someone a bit experienced who could help me out. I'll down to pay for your session if you help me out so if you are already planning to go, let me know or if you want a free session its on me. I come to Korea about twice a year so if you are seasoned vet that would be helpful but not necessary as I would like a mongering buddy to hang with (get food / drinks and go mongering) whenever I come to Korea. I can return the favor if you ever find yourself in Los Angeles.

A little about myself, I'm Korean and grew up in the states. I can speak Korean at probably an intermediate level (my lack of vocabulary is what hurts me but I'm fine with basic Korean to intermediate stuff).

I've been to Eve before and had a few outcalls sessions at my hotel but I'm really interested in officetels and hyugatels and lip cafes. I will be staying in Incheon but I'm down to venture anywhere.

I'll probably take a look around the RLDs this weekend too see if theres something I like but I'm more interested in the harder to access stuff.

I just made an account on adal6 as well but would feel more comfortable going with someone for the 1st time. Anywho if interested PM me.

[QUOTE=LMoohp2;2159134]Hey,

New here.

I've registered on adal6 and was just wondering if any foreigners have had success on the site? How did you go about doing it. My Korean is very limited.[/QUOTE]I have had success once. I found out a place and just gave them a call. The other person could not speak English but understood that I cannot speak Korean, so after 2 minutes he made some one else call me who could speak pretty decent English. He gave me his Kakao talk account. Said its around 200-230 k / hour. And also if you go to Seollung station (Exit 1) after night and stand around there you are guaranteed that someone would come in and ask you if you need a service, they are the room saloon people, but do charge a 30-50 k won extra if you are foreigner than general pricing.

[QUOTE=Ddruff1234;2160202]Sup all,

I just landed in Korea and will be here for about 2 weeks. Hoping to connect with a mongering buddy- someone a bit experienced who could help me out. I'll down to pay for your session if you help me out so if you are already planning to go, let me know or if you want a free session its on me. I come to Korea about twice a year so if you are seasoned vet that would be helpful but not necessary as I would like a mongering buddy to hang with (get food / drinks and go mongering) whenever I come to Korea. I can return the favor if you ever find yourself in Los Angeles.

A little about myself, I'm Korean and grew up in the states. I can speak Korean at probably an intermediate level (my lack of vocabulary is what hurts me but I'm fine with basic Korean to intermediate stuff).

I've been to Eve before and had a few outcalls sessions at my hotel but I'm really interested in officetels and hyugatels and lip cafes..[/QUOTE]Hey,

I am not that experienced but want to monger around myself as well, do let me know if you want to catchup sometime around your stay, can have some food and then visit a anma or officetel (I do have a contact who accepts foreigners into room saloons and officetels).

[QUOTE=RedWolf;2159580]
My top girl in this report is Kay. Lean and quite tall for a Korean. Guess that she has see cup MM but I didn't see scars. For 100, she was totally GFE with kissing, BBBJ, and even CIM, YMMV. She has a more private place including shower / bathroom and didn't need to have a bunch of drinks first. She gave more more traditional service also with showering, cleaning, wiping, and offering water. She is no doubt my #1 in Itaewon. I think that I got lucky that we hit it off. So I would not expect the same level of service for what I received. YMMV.
.[/QUOTE]Kaye is indeed a gem. It is not often that you kind a near GFE provider in a place like the Hill. She only comes to Seoul on weekends, generally arriving about 9 pm on Friday night and staying through Monday morning. I've seen her more than a dozen times and have never had a bad session.

[QUOTE=Charlie01;2160382]Hey,

I am not that experienced but want to monger around myself as well, do let me know if you want to catchup sometime around your stay, can have some food and then visit a anma or officetel (I do have a contact who accepts foreigners into room saloons and officetels).[/QUOTE]I'm down for some mongering but how should we do this? I just tried to PM you but no go.

[QUOTE=Charlie01;2160382]Hey,

I am not that experienced but want to monger around myself as well, do let me know if you want to catchup sometime around your stay, can have some food and then visit a anma or officetel (I do have a contact who accepts foreigners into room saloons and officetels).[/QUOTE]I'm also new here (landed last week) I'll be staying in SK for at least 2 years.

At Charlie01 I already PMed Ddruff1234 but I couldn't PM you. I'm staying in Gangnam-gu for now and free on most nights.

Hey guys,

I also recently moved to Korea just this past month, so would be open to meet fellow mongerers or exchange info thru e-mail / text.

So far this trip I recently visited VIP-MVP and 7-Spa both in Gangnam.

I did not really like VIP, as the girls there seemed to be not too attractive and bit on the older side. But for the price, it's not the worst.

My experience at 7-spa was very positive however. It is a nice facility that has spa and showers, and the girls are cute. The only downside is the foreigner fee which is 20 k, even tho I speak fluent Korean.

[QUOTE=Cognac060;2160840]Hey guys,

I also recently moved to Korea just this past month, so would be open to meet fellow mongerers or exchange info thru e-mail / text.

So far this trip I recently visited VIP-MVP and 7-Spa both in Gangnam.

I did not really like VIP, as the girls there seemed to be not too attractive and bit on the older side. But for the price, it's not the worst.

My experience at 7-spa was very positive however. It is a nice facility that has spa and showers, and the girls are young and cute. The only downside is the foreigner fee which is 20 k, even tho I speak fluent Korean.[/QUOTE]I haven't heard of 7-Spa, unless I missed the post. I've been to MVP and I agree with your assessment. Where is 7-Spa?

Thanks,

OS.

[QUOTE=Cognac060;2160840]Hey guys,

I also recently moved to Korea just this past month, so would be open to meet fellow mongerers or exchange info thru e-mail / text.

So far this trip I recently visited VIP-MVP and 7-Spa both in Gangnam.

I did not really like VIP, as the girls there seemed to be not too attractive and bit on the older side. But for the price, it's not the worst..[/QUOTE]Is that the one near exit 3? I'm down for a meeting but we can't exchange PMs, you need a subscription for that.

We could also meet near an exit or in a coffee place at a specific time, if you prefer.

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[QUOTE=RedWolf;2159583]Jinju:

140 for a HJ woman followed by a solid hour massage and finished with another HJ. The first girl was younger and more mechanical. The second who gave the massage is more of a MILF in a school girl skirt. Great teasing. Didn't need as long as the woman in her 20's. I recommend #18 for massage as well as Jinju massage: professional, fun, and around the clock.[/QUOTE]Jinju is a HJ finish now? It used to be a great massage from a slightly older woman followed by BBBJ from a usually good looking younger provider. Used to be my old go to spot. I'll be back in Seoul soon and wanted to visit again, but 140 k for a HJ isn't worth it.

Can anyone else confirm that there's no BBBJ there anymore?

[QUOTE=Cognac060;2160840]Hey guys,

I also recently moved to Korea just this past month, so would be open to meet fellow mongerers or exchange info thru e-mail / text.

So far this trip I recently visited VIP-MVP and 7-Spa both in Gangnam.

I did not really like VIP, as the girls there seemed to be not too attractive and bit on the older side. But for the price, it's not the worst.

My experience at 7-spa was very positive however. It is a nice facility that has spa and showers, and the girls are cute. The only downside is the foreigner fee which is 20 k, even tho I speak fluent Korean.[/QUOTE]How is VIP compared to Fish or Ace? Are the girls roughly about the same in unattractiveness? I'd also be up for meeting up to go mongering with anyone. Feel free to PM me.

I think VIP is highly overrated. But they do serve foreigners. Been there and the girls are in their mid and late 30's and the service is normal. Its just another massage place but it got hyped up a lot on here.

[QUOTE=Stack69;2161022]Is that the one near exit 3? I'm down for a meeting but we can't exchange PMs, you need a subscription for that.

We could also meet near an exit or in a coffee place at a specific time, if you prefer.[/QUOTE]7- spa is just off of exit 1. Also it is more of a blowjob bar type of place, but they do offer a massage option.

Went to VIP, the girl was Russian but spoke Korean to me. No English. Didn't do the nuru like Ace. Wasn't bad if you like European girls, but was looking for Koreans so I haven't gone back since.

[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;2161231]Jinju is a HJ finish now? It used to be a great massage from a slightly older woman followed by BBBJ from a usually good looking younger provider. Used to be my old go to spot. I'll be back in Seoul soon and wanted to visit again, but 140 k for a HJ isn't worth it.

Can anyone else confirm that there's no BBBJ there anymore?[/QUOTE]I went there twice. Once in Sept and just recently both were HJ for me but I think it be BBBJ for native Koreans.

So, anyone visited Miari and / or Cheonho recently? I may be able to return to Korea this summer, and I hope that those RLDs are still there.

Hey all.

I'll be in Seoul for a couple weeks this month. I've mongered plenty around Asia, but never in Seoul.

The scene in Seoul seems quite impenetrable if you don't speak any Korean. And unfortunately, I don't speak Korean. However, if any senior members are up for showing me some officetels, I'd be happy to pay for your share of the fun. I'm hoping to experience more than just the usual VIP / Ace / Fish anmas.

Thank you in advance!

[QUOTE=YeongIl;2161759]So, anyone visited Miari and / or Cheonho recently? I may be able to return to Korea this summer, and I hope that those RLDs are still there.[/QUOTE]I went to Miari in Sept and it was still there not sure about Cheonho never been there.

I likely have an incoming business trip to China, so I thought I'd scout the nearby areas. I've read the last 20 odd paging and am somewhat perplexed at the situation in Seoul. In the Bay Area (USA), you can get incall GFE 2 x service for $220 USD / Hour from an in shape 20's-30's Korean woman. I thought it'd be cheaper in South Korea, but apparently its anywhere from the same price to more? I'm sure there are Korean only areas where it's cheaper, but that would be difficult to navigate without knowing Korean. Is this an accurate assessment? Why the pricing discrepancy?

[QUOTE=CasualFunSeoul;2121699]My favorite are the Hyugaetels. Usually 80,000 for 40 minutes FS. BBBJ. DATY everything included. You can choose the venue based on girls. Thai, Korean, Russian, Etc. The girls in my experience have been hotter and and better attitudes than any of the Opi chicks. I've got 2 Thai places (Apgujang and Kyodae) that I hit up a few times a month. Amazing! Girls are all 22 - 27. Hot as shit! Places are clean. Some offer anal for extra charge. Again I usually opt for the relay course. 150,000 KRW. 40 minutes 1 girl + 40 minutes Thai massage + another 40 minutes with a another girl! It's the best deal by far.[/QUOTE]Would love details on either of these Hyugaetels. Please PM me if you can.

[QUOTE=DexXie;2162912]I likely have an incoming business trip to China, so I thought I'd scout the nearby areas. I've read the last 20 odd paging and am somewhat perplexed at the situation in Seoul. In the Bay Area (USA), you can get incall GFE 2 x service for $220 USD / Hour from an in shape 20's-30's Korean woman. I thought it'd be cheaper in South Korea, but apparently its anywhere from the same price to more? I'm sure there are Korean only areas where it's cheaper, but that would be difficult to navigate without knowing Korean. Is this an accurate assessment? Why the pricing discrepancy?[/QUOTE]Perplexed. That's the correct term alright LOL.

There are many reasons. So get ready for many responses from others.

It doesn't help either when customers start inflating the market with the ridiculous prices that they pay. 250-300+ for a shot.

[QUOTE=ScubaGecko;2163123]Would love details on either of these Hyugaetels. Please PM me if you can.[/QUOTE]Me too thanks.

[QUOTE=ScubaGecko;2163123]Would love details on either of these Hyugaetels. Please PM me if you can.[/QUOTE]I am planning my visit to Seoul. So I did the research and RTFF for many pages but I also got stuck.

I will share here what I know. I thank if more experienced members who can share information.

1- Get ready to communicate in Korean.

I do not have korean language skills- I use naver. It is better than google translate.

2- Search in adal.

Website today is [url]adal2.Net[/url] - there were older posts mentioning adal5 but it seems like the website has now changed to adal2.

3- Choose ads.

So there are many ads in adal2 and from what I understand the main choices are 서50872;44053;45224;51648;50669 오54588; for gangnan and 서50872;48708;44053;45224;51648;50669 오54588; for non-gangnan areas.

Question for experienced members: is this correct? Or should I make different choice? I am ignoring the results from 휴44172;53588;54056;54000;49772; (hyugaetel / fetish) even though it mentions the word hyugetel.

4- Speak phone call.

You need to browse the ads to see which one you want to visit and then make a phone call and speak in korean. They do not speak english in more than 90% of cases. Some russian hyugetel may reply in english but not always.

5- Write with app.

If you do not want or if you cannot speak in korean, then you can try messaging with kakao talk app (mores popular in south korea). Or use telegram.

Try to write in korean using a translation app. You will have around 50% chances to get a reply using this approach.

Do not waste time trying to use other apps like wechat, viber, whatsapp because very few people use them.

Always be polite and explain you are foreigner and ask permission to be a client. Koreans are polite and they will never say no to you. They will say sorry and sometimes add some sad emoji = this means they do not accept foreigners. So if they say sorry do not insist because sorry=no.

Sometimes they accept and then you get the address to visit.

OK. This is what I know. I am probably doing many things wrong because my success rate is very small with this method. .

[QUOTE=Ddruff1234;2160676]I'm down for some mongering but how should we do this? I just tried to PM you but no go.[/QUOTE]Hey,

Just saw your message, Yeah I don't have a premium account, so is there any way we can exchange PM or contacts?

Looks like cracker is down for good. Anyone know a place to find independent escorts?

[QUOTE=DexXie;2162912]I likely have an incoming business trip to China, so I thought I'd scout the nearby areas. I've read the last 20 odd paging and am somewhat perplexed at the situation in Seoul. In the Bay Area (USA), you can get incall GFE 2 x service for $220 USD / Hour from an in shape 20's-30's Korean woman. I thought it'd be cheaper in South Korea, but apparently its anywhere from the same price to more? I'm sure there are Korean only areas where it's cheaper, but that would be difficult to navigate without knowing Korean. Is this an accurate assessment? Why the pricing discrepancy?[/QUOTE]Just curious, how are you finding these women? I might be traveling to the bay area so I'd thought I'd have some fun mongering while I'm there.

[QUOTE=Cognac060;2164015]Looks like cracker is down for good. Anyone know a place to find independent escorts?[/QUOTE]Looks like Cracker / Backpage are done, here's an article: [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/07/us/politics/backpage-prostitution-classified.html[/URL].

I only tried backpage twice and one time was very good and the other was a total nightmare that caused me to delete my ISG account (was a senior member) and start over again. Most of these ladies know about ISG and read it daily and they don't seem to care about us griping about the over price and poor service. Where will they advertise next? Maybe CL, massage republic, tinder, maybe here. ? The one person I had a very good time with on BP (only met once) I still have her contact info. I think I might ask her what her next plan. My friend met her once too and he was very happy with the price and service, she's Thai. The only two meetings I had on BP, they both know abut and read ISG. I didn't ask them or say anything about ISG when we met; however, this posted comments on this page commenting about the review I posted about them. One was happy about my comment and the other was not.

In closing and from what I've read here, I know for some it's bad news, but I'm glad to see the over priced and shitty service ones one BP take a loss and have to do some work on how to get it back.

Out,

Oralsea, AKA Lunchmeat.

Seems cracker is gone. Some sort of transatlantic operation. Any news about this?

[QUOTE=VincentLo1;2164148]Just curious, how are you finding these women? I might be traveling to the bay area so I'd thought I'd have some fun mongering while I'm there.[/QUOTE]Used to be, for the Bay area, you could look at reviews and ads on nightshift and ********. But they've both shut down be / see of SESTA!

Could experienced and senior Seoul mongers take a few minutes and provide actual google map locations or screenshot street view for lip cafes, or places like 7 spa, VIP-MVP, or hyugaetels that take foreigners? I've RTFF but the directions are tough to follow or opaque in many cases. Other locations like Fish and Ace are better 'documented' on the interwebs.

Thanks for reading. If I can return favors w intel in the US, hmu.

Nightmare?

Think about what you have done.

You totally forgot. Ha Ha Ha.

[QUOTE=OralSea;2164408]Looks like Cracker / Backpage are done, here's an article: [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/07/us/politics/backpage-prostitution-classified.html[/URL].

I only tried backpage twice and one time was very good and the other was a total nightmare that caused me to delete my ISG account (was a senior member) and start over again. Most of these ladies know about ISG and read it daily and they don't seem to care about us griping about the over price and poor service. Where will they advertise next? Maybe CL, massage republic, tinder, maybe here. ? The one person I had a very good time with on BP (only met once) I still have her contact info. I think I might ask her what her next plan. My friend met her once too and he was very happy with the price and service, she's Thai. The only two meetings I had on BP, they both know abut and read ISG. I didn't ask them or say anything about ISG when we met; however, this posted comments on this page commenting about the review I posted about them. One was happy about my comment and the other was not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jolem;2164653]Used to be, for the Bay area, you could look at reviews and ads on nightshift and ********. But they've both shut down be / see of SESTA!

Could experienced and senior Seoul mongers take a few minutes and provide actual google map locations or screenshot street view for lip cafes, or places like 7 spa, VIP-MVP, or hyugaetels that take foreigners? I've RTFF but the directions are tough to follow or opaque in many cases. Other locations like Fish and Ace are better 'documented' on the interwebs.

Thanks for reading. If I can return favors w intel in the US, hmu.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1N0jAIFYROgrc6u_gn-jqF84BQ98&hl=en_US&ll=37.511474760726806%2C127.04546930000004&z=16[/URL]

This collection has been helpful for me! You will find some of those places listed on there.

Bro,

I appreciate a lot the time and effort of the people who made this map. It is a big effort!

Please also keep in mind that with the exception of some RLD and Anmas most of the places have already changed / closed. Also, some locations are misplaced. This has been mentioned here [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3913-Seoul-Map[/URL].

[QUOTE=Cognac060;2165031][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1N0jAIFYROgrc6u_gn-jqF84BQ98&hl=en_US&ll=37.511474760726806%2C127.04546930000004&z=16[/URL]

This collection has been helpful for me! You will find some of those places listed on there.[/QUOTE]

Any recommendations on places near the palace? Karaoke, officetel, massage, lip cafe. Just interested in seeing the scene.

Thanks!

Hey Aquarius,

Fellow Soldier here at Yongsan a few weeks looking for some fun. I can pay for drinks and a complimentary girl in exchange. Lets meet up.

[QUOTE=Aquarius1981;2155337]As I reply and write reports tonight, I got the urge to venture out.

So, I took the advice of a senior member. After quickly ending below reports. I hopped in the shower and I was out the door hailing a cab. 20 mins later I was at Gangnam station exit 5, after a quick double right. I was at. You guessed it a "Karaoke" spot. They knew I was not at the right place, as quickly shown me the door. After regrouping I enter the building again going to level B1. BAM! MVP-VIP I pressed the button the door slid open. A gentlemen show me to my room, where said "40 mins massage and sex" agree to 120 k; 140 k if you pay with card. I hopped in the shower, once I was done I pressed a button on the wall and 60 sec later a very thin lady knock on my door. I always enjoy the reactions of different women. I wasn't sure if she was more entertain by my chest hair or my "sword" she played with my chest hair and sword for a good 10-15 mins as if she hasn't seen any like it. Anyways HJ, CBJ, CG, MISH, limited Doggie and Lazy Dog. All-in-all, I don't know if I will return. Just use to the convenience and comfort of my place. It's kinda hard to explain..[/QUOTE]

On Saturday, I went over to Ace Anma for the first time. Told the papasan what I wanted (young, skinny. Which is probably what 99% of all customers say, LOL). I tried to be as specific as possible, even telling him my exact size requirements. However, I didn't get what I wanted. The girl was big. Real big. She looked mid-20's, but that's most likely because of multiple plastic surgery.

The experience itself was standard. Anyone that's been to a soapy in Japan, China, or Thailand knows what to expect. The service was mechanical but friendly. I don't blame them, with the number of customers they must have to serve every day, can't possibly be GFE every single time. Overall, a fine experience but sadly the girl was a 4 or 5 out of 10 at best. Too bad you can't choose your girl at these places.

Curious to try some other anmas such as Eve, Fish, Hera, Treasure Island, etc. If only I spoke Korean and could get into some Officetels!

[QUOTE=Optional;2167642]On Saturday, I went over to Ace Anma for the first time. Told the papasan what I wanted (young, skinny. Which is probably what 99% of all customers say, LOL). I tried to be as specific as possible, even telling him my exact size requirements. However, I didn't get what I wanted. The girl was big. Real big. She looked mid-20's, but that's most likely because of multiple plastic surgery.

The experience itself was standard. Anyone that's been to a soapy in Japan, China, or Thailand knows what to expect. The service was mechanical but friendly. I don't blame them, with the number of customers they must have to serve every day, can't possibly be GFE every single time. Overall, a fine experience but sadly the girl was a 4 or 5 out of 10 at best. Too bad you can't choose your girl at these places.

Curious to try some other anmas such as Eve, Fish, Hera, Treasure Island, etc. If only I spoke Korean and could get into some Officetels![/QUOTE]What is Ace charging these days? What did you get for that money?

Just 1 girl?

I went to early to Belle and Cool, but strike out. Belle has a sign that they weren't open until 11 Am. Cool didn't have a sign but was closed, headed to VIP but got the same results as Cool, closed but no sign. Tiffany was open but when they found out I couldn't speak Korean told me it would be a 2 hour wait. Went to some random barber shop, ended up with some old lady. Not worth repeating and I don't even recall where she was.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2168000]What is Ace charging these days? What did you get for that money?

Just 1 girl?[/QUOTE]I was charged 250, and yes, just 1 girl. I also went to Fish late last week. Fish was quite a unique experience. As others have mentioned here, it's nightclub themed, and you get two pops. But it felt very rushed. The girls really try to get that first pop out ASAP, and then you're spent for the majority of the time! I'm curious if anyone here has been to Treasure Island, Tiffany, Donut, Hera Anmas lately? Or anyone know an existing kissbang that's available? I know kissbangs move around constantly, so am wondering if anyone has current intel?

Hello fellow mongers,

I've seen a lot of useful posts here. I've been in Korea about a year now. I've been to the Suwon red light a few times. I am a half rican and have never had any issues being accepted in the back streets by the older workers there but I've had 0 luck on the main stip with the really attractive women. I know this is usually how it goes at these red lights but I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck at the yeongdeungpo red light. It seems like a pretty foreign heavy area so maybe I'd have better luck there?

Hello,

I will be staying in Seoul for a one month work assignment this summer and I wondered if it is conceivable to have a "short-term girl-friend" during this time. Which websites, if any, would allow me to contact potential candidates?

I appreciate your help.

Best,

Salsa2005.

[QUOTE=Salsa2005;2168649]Hello,

I will be staying in Seoul for a one month work assignment this summer and I wondered if it is conceivable to have a "short-term girl-friend" during this time. Which websites, if any, would allow me to contact potential candidates?

I appreciate your help.

Best,

Salsa2005.[/QUOTE]Tinder LOL.

[QUOTE=Mufasa2563;2168315]Hello fellow mongers,

I've seen a lot of useful posts here. I've been in Korea about a year now. I've been to the Suwon red light a few times. I am a half rican and have never had any issues being accepted in the back streets by the older workers there but I've had 0 luck on the main stip with the really attractive women. I know this is usually how it goes at these red lights but I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck at the yeongdeungpo red light. It seems like a pretty foreign heavy area so maybe I'd have better luck there?[/QUOTE]There have been some reports on this forum of foreign people getting waved over, only to be quoted 70-100,000 won for fifteen minutes. You are more likely to get accepted by the streetwalkers on the side alley near the subway station and department store.

Dear all,

Please PM good places in Seoul foreigners friendly to find girls.

[QUOTE=Lion55;2160504]Kaye is indeed a gem. It is not often that you kind a near GFE provider in a place like the Hill. She only comes to Seoul on weekends, generally arriving about 9 pm on Friday night and staying through Monday morning. I've seen her more than a dozen times and have never had a bad session.[/QUOTE]Kay or Kaye (she didn't write it for me LOL) is at Happy Days. Bean is just up the hill on the same side at Avante Garde. I forgot to mention that, although it is pretty easy to find if you read back on the forum thread.

I met Ruby, the curvy Venezuelan, at Forest Queen. Shamrock, where she used to be, appears to be closed. She has a place to take you down the street for privacy but is not good if you are allergic to cats. LOL.

She has a good personality and makes a good effort but is not GFE: no kissing and only CBJ.

I also had a chance to meet Laura from Laura. She has a lean body with tight ass and good sized boobs. She says that they are natural. She likes to work out. She was unrushed and sweet.

[QUOTE=Moobcinos;2167391]Hey Aquarius,

Fellow Soldier here at Yongsan a few weeks looking for some fun. I can pay for drinks and a complimentary girl in exchange. Lets meet up.[/QUOTE]There are many brothels in Seoul where you can get Latina / white girls for a good price.

[QUOTE=DayumDafuq;2174722]There are many brothels in Seoul where you can get Latina / white girls for a good price.[/QUOTE]Can anyone confirm? If so PM or reply to this post I'm very interested to find, explore and report.

I just read in some other place about Club desire. Is it still open. Can anyone who has been to one confirm any good Sex clubs in Seoul and what the scene is like for single men?

[QUOTE=DayumDafuq;2174722]There are many brothels in Seoul where you can get Latina / white girls for a good price.[/QUOTE]Where can we find Latina, any specific place preferably near to gangnam?

[QUOTE=Charlie01;2175305]I just read in some other place about Club desire. Is it still open. Can anyone who has been to one confirm any good Sex clubs in Seoul and what the scene is like for single men?[/QUOTE]Desire is still open. Yes, singles are allowed but it's not easy for a single guy to get some instant action. The three times I went, it was mostly couple swapping and I didn't see any MMF at all. But if you're a hot single and an adventurous couple is there, there is no reason why it wouldn't happen. So dress to impress and bring your A-game charm.

However be warned that it can get a little creepy. I went with a friend last year and we were looking for some group action, but she didn't see any couple she liked. We started fucking each other and single guys were basically watching us while jerking off. My friend gets off on that so it was ok for her but I know it's not everyone's thing.

Hey all,

I'll be in Seoul for a 2 days this month 21st and 22nd may. I've mongered plenty around Asia, but never in Seoul.

Unfortunately, I don't speak Korean. However, if any senior members are up for showing me some officetels, I'd be happy to pay for your share of the fun at VIP and anmas. Also I will be staying in a good hotel. Am also looking for incall options so any help for contacts of SP and independent girls will be super helpful.

Thank you in advance!

Recently worked up the intestinal fortitude to check out Miari Texas and Cheonho RLD last Friday. I've lived in Korea for a little over a year but still only have a few hundred Korean words memorized so I've stuck with outcall escorts until Cracker's shutdown. I was curious to see how Korea's RLDs compared with Thailand and Japan's.

Got to Miari at around 8 pm and entered from the second or third entrance down the street from Gireum Station. It looked deserted at first until I found two ajummas in the bowels of the dimly lit maze. One of them lead me over to her room and promised good service while asking my background to which I replied "miguk saram. " She had two girls in their dressed in normal street clothes instead of the prom dresses. The fat one with a cute face took an interest to me so I didn't get to see the other skinny one well. They pointed to the sign in the room that had something written in hangeul for 100 k KRW. I tried asking how many ssam ship bun (30 minutes) that was but gave up and handed my 100 k. Then I was lead down to the subfloor into a dimly lit kid sized room with a twin bed. The girl broke off to spend some time in the hwajangshil (bathroom) while I waited. I still had my clothes on when she returned so she instructed me where to put them and I laid on the bed. She then started the nipple sucking routine but I was already hard so it didn't take long for her to move to putting the condom on. By this point I was kind of digging her pillow mounds of mashed potatoes but the missionary position was kind of difficult because of how small the bed was and how tall I am. Her hole was still surprisingly tight and from the noise she didn't like me thrusting too deep. Ultimately I got 30 minutes and an energy drink for 100 k as a dumb white American but I can't orgasm with a standard thickness condom on so I headed South to Cheonho.

Cheonho RLD is tucked behind a huge department store but still appears to be fairly active. There were a bunch of shady Korean dudes squatting in the Alley and a traffic cop before you actually reach the row of glass salons. I counted maybe 40-50 girls in the salons together but they didn't pay me much attention as I walked past even though I was the only John in the alley around 9:30 pm. Then towards the end an ajumma was waving me in where she asked for 200 k. I think she was asking me to choose a girl but I was too confused to be sure and just paid to see what would happen. I was led to the back room behind the salon and got a girl who could have been called cute once but was at least 5 years past her prime. I'm not a picky guy so I didn't complain and went back to her room. These rooms are a little bigger and nicer than Miari's with at least a double sized bed. Unfortunately this girl had long nails and no skill when putting on a condom. So there was some pain that insta killed my boner. She joked that I had whisky dick and went off to find her phone. She used the translator to try to negotiate more time. It seemed like they were trying to charge me 200 k per 30 minutes so I just stood up and left. On my way out there were some firecrackers going off and someone following me in the alley so I was happy to head off quickly back into the commercial zone.

Later that night I had a good experience with a 350 k outcall who I will be seeing again. She was kind of fat and ugly but in a hot way with nice tits. She's still young and enjoying what she does.

So in summary, expect to be overcharged if you don't know what you're doing. I think I will return to Miari soon with the right phrases memorized and check out times square, gangam and suwon later. If anyone has tips on foreigner friendly officetels in Seoul I'd be happy to trade information over pm or a finder's fee in person.

[QUOTE=Rsa2015;2177518]Hey all,

I'll be in Seoul for a 2 days this month 21st and 22nd may. I've mongered plenty around Asia, but never in Seoul.

Unfortunately, I don't speak Korean. However, if any senior members are up for showing me some officetels, I'd be happy to pay for your share of the fun at VIP and anmas. Also I will be staying in a good hotel. Am also looking for incall options so any help for contacts of SP and independent girls will be super helpful.

Thank you in advance![/QUOTE]I do speak fluent Korean & English (born in KR but moved to USA).

I've been playing the game for a while now (8 yrs +).

Hit me up if you want to hang.

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[QUOTE=KrayKray;2177895]Recently worked up the intestinal fortitude to check out Miari Texas and Cheonho RLD last Friday. I've lived in Korea for a little over a year but still only have a few hundred Korean words memorized so I've stuck with outcall escorts until Cracker's shutdown. I was curious to see how Korea's RLDs compared with Thailand and Japan's.

Got to Miari at around 8 pm and entered from the second or third entrance down the street from Gireum Station. It looked deserted at first until I found two ajummas in the bowels of the dimly lit maze. One of them lead me over to her room and promised good service while asking my background to which I replied "miguk saram. " She had two girls in their dressed in normal street clothes instead of the prom dresses. The fat one with a cute face took an interest to me so I didn't get to see the other skinny one well. They pointed to the sign in the room that had something written in hangeul for 100 k KRW. I tried asking how many ssam ship bun (30 minutes) that was but gave up and handed my 100 k. Then I was lead down to the subfloor into a dimly lit kid sized room with a twin bed. The girl broke off to spend some time in the hwajangshil (bathroom) while I waited. I still had my clothes on when she returned so she instructed me where to put them and I laid on the bed. She then started the nipple sucking routine but I was already hard so it didn't take long for her to move to putting the condom on. By this point I was kind of digging her pillow mounds of mashed potatoes but the missionary position was kind of difficult because of how small the bed was and how tall I am. Her hole was still surprisingly tight and from the noise she didn't like me thrusting too deep. Ultimately I got 30 minutes and an energy drink for 100 k as a dumb white American but I can't orgasm with a standard thickness condom on so I headed South to Cheonho.
.[/QUOTE]I applaud you for leaving cheonho under that price. 200 k for 30 min. But sadly you could've gotten a wannabe kpop star for 350 k. Ouch!

[QUOTE=KrayKray;2177895]Recently worked up the intestinal fortitude to check out Miari Texas and Cheonho RLD last Friday. I've lived in Korea for a little over a year but still only have a few hundred Korean words memorized so I've stuck with outcall escorts until Cracker's shutdown. I was curious to see how Korea's RLDs compared with Thailand and Japan's.[/QUOTE]Miari is 80-90 k BBFS. They will accept 60-70 during the day. Some girls won't BBFS so you have to let the ajumma know before going in. Also, don't be afraid to be picky. They often have extra girls in the establishment even though only one or two might seem available.

Cheonho is 100 k BBFS. Some girls might insist on condoms on your first time with them, but after that it should be creampies all the way (if you want).

350 k for one pop with an escort, you were fleeced.

Foreigner friendly?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2178398]Miari is 80-90 k BBFS. They will accept 60-70 during the day. Some girls won't BBFS so you have to let the ajumma know before going in. Also, don't be afraid to be picky. They often have extra girls in the establishment even though only one or two might seem available.

Cheonho is 100 k BBFS. Some girls might insist on condoms on your first time with them, but after that it should be creampies all the way (if you want).

350 k for one pop with an escort, you were fleeced.[/QUOTE]

Both are foreigner-friendly, Miari a lot more than Cheonho.

If you don't look East Asian, Cheonho will be a challenge but you should be able to find some be row action.

Wow I didn't realise Miari had a day game too. I think the Miari girl was going to let me take off the condom for more time but I wasn't fast enough with the translation. Maybe there's a phrasebook for negotiating in the bowels of this forum somewhere.

I've been way off budget recently when I paid north of 1 m krw for an American. Once I move to Seoul proper it should be relatively easy to sponsor a Koreaboo Filipina or Thai for the week instead.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2178398]Miari is 80-90 k BBFS. They will accept 60-70 during the day. Some girls won't BBFS so you have to let the ajumma know before going in. Also, don't be afraid to be picky. They often have extra girls in the establishment even though only one or two might seem available.

Cheonho is 100 k BBFS. Some girls might insist on condoms on your first time with them, but after that it should be creampies all the way (if you want).

350 k for one pop with an escort, you were fleeced.[/QUOTE]

Thanks! Do you have any info on brothels?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2178635]Both are foreigner-friendly, Miari a lot more than Cheonho.

If you don't look East Asian, Cheonho will be a challenge but you should be able to find some be row action.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KrayKray;2178678]Wow I didn't realise Miari had a day game too. I think the Miari girl was going to let me take off the condom for more time but I wasn't fast enough with the translation. Maybe there's a phrasebook for negotiating in the bowels of this forum somewhere.

I've been way off budget recently when I paid north of 1 m krw for an American. Once I move to Seoul proper it should be relatively easy to sponsor a Koreaboo Filipina or Thai for the week instead.[/QUOTE]Don't count on it. The filipina independants here are charging as much as the koreans.

I think he meant flying over a girl from the Philippines for a week or a long weekend, which is what I do these days. Once every 4-6 weeks, I have a filipina fly over to Korea for the weekend (all expenses covered by me). And once every 3-4 months, I fly over to the Philippines to meet even more.

Each trip costs less than a 3 hour booking with an escort in Korea.

I still go to RLDs, but not as frequently as I used to, but you won't catch me with an overpriced escort in Korea LOL.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2179072]I think he meant flying over a girl from the Philippines for a week or a long weekend, which is what I do these days. Once every 4-6 weeks, I have a filipina fly over to Korea for the weekend (all expenses covered by me). And once every 3-4 months, I fly over to the Philippines to meet even more.

Each trip costs less than a 3 hour booking with an escort in Korea.

I still go to RLDs, but not as frequently as I used to, but you won't catch me with an overpriced escort in Korea LOL.[/QUOTE]Where do you find these girls to fly over? Curious LOL.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2179072]I think he meant flying over a girl from the Philippines for a week or a long weekend, which is what I do these days. Once every 4-6 weeks, I have a filipina fly over to Korea for the weekend (all expenses covered by me). And once every 3-4 months, I fly over to the Philippines to meet even more.

Each trip costs less than a 3 hour booking with an escort in Korea.

I still go to RLDs, but not as frequently as I used to, but you won't catch me with an overpriced escort in Korea LOL.[/QUOTE]Rain is absolutely right.

I'm sure Rain has his own finely tuned methods but I do something similar with a Thai woman that I met initially through Thai Cupid (dating site). We chatted online and bit and when I went down to Bangkok we met, hung out and clicked. I visited Bangkok two more times before inviting her up to Seoul. The airfare is cheap so long as you keep your eye open for the special deal rates, around 200 to 300 with the special super saver rates (check out Jin Air or Asia Air X). She stays with me here in Seoul so there is no need to pay for a hotel but on her first trip up here, I paid for a super cheap motel for her (under her name) to have as a backup safety just in case. On her subsequent trips, she didn't need it. I pay for food, drinks, sight seeing and what not and the total damage all together is around $500-$600 and that's for several days of fun. You'll pay more for only three sessions at Fish Anma. There's a three-day weekend coming up and times like that are perfect. The added bonus is she cooks Thai food for me and cleans my apartment even when I tell her not to (that's just the Thai way).

It may seem like bragging but it's not bragging at all because there is no reason why you can't do the same. You'll have to do the initial work of sifting through a shit ton of bad profiles, prostitutes pretending to be normal good girls and sketchy gold digging women but with a little luck you'll find one that works out. Maybe two or three or four.

If you prefer a Filipina lady, check out Pinalove and Filipino Cupid. Just be completely honest from the beginning, saying that you're just looking for some casual fun. You might be surprised at how many women are down. You'll have to fly to the Philippines and meet at least a half a dozen ladies to maybe find one you really like plus a lot of ladies will just flake out on meeting up. It's a numbers game but that is part of the fun.

A friend of mine saw miari 110 k and basic officetels at 130 k 30 min.

350 k in Seoul for one pop would indeed must be a very high quality experience to be worth it. Some girls are worth this price, but that is very rare to find.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2178398]Miari is 80-90 k BBFS. They will accept 60-70 during the day. Some girls won't BBFS so you have to let the ajumma know before going in. Also, don't be afraid to be picky. They often have extra girls in the establishment even though only one or two might seem available.

Cheonho is 100 k BBFS. Some girls might insist on condoms on your first time with them, but after that it should be creampies all the way (if you want).

350 k for one pop with an escort, you were fleeced.[/QUOTE]

Miari establishments have signs on the wall that sat 90-110 k. Nobody but tourists pay that. Prices there are strictly up for negotiation and they will accept 80-90.

If I spend 100 k at Miari, it usually includes a 10-20 k tip to my regular providers.

[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2179369]Rain is absolutely right.

I'm sure Rain has his own finely tuned methods but I do something similar with a Thai woman that I met initially through Thai Cupid (dating site). We chatted online and bit and when I went down to Bangkok we met, hung out and clicked. I visited Bangkok two more times before inviting her up to Seoul. The airfare is cheap so long as you keep your eye open for the special deal rates, around 200 to 300 with the special super saver rates (check out Jin Air or Asia Air X). She stays with me here in Seoul so there is no need to pay for a hotel but on her first trip up here, I paid for a super cheap motel for her (under her name) to have as a backup safety just in case. On her subsequent trips, she didn't need it. I pay for food, drinks, sight seeing and what not and the total damage all together is around $500-$600 and that's for several days of fun. You'll pay more for only three sessions at Fish Anma. There's a three-day weekend coming up and times like that are perfect. The added bonus is she cooks Thai food for me and cleans my apartment even when I tell her not to (that's just the Thai way).

It may seem like bragging but it's not bragging at all because there is no reason why you can't do the same. You'll have to do the initial work of sifting through a shit ton of bad profiles, prostitutes pretending to be normal good girls and sketchy gold digging women but with a little luck you'll find one that works out. Maybe two or three or four.

If you prefer a Filipina lady, check out Pinalove and Filipino Cupid. Just be completely honest from the beginning, saying that you're just looking for some casual fun. You might be surprised at how many women are down. You'll have to fly to the Philippines and meet at least a half a dozen ladies to maybe find one you really like plus a lot of ladies will just flake out on meeting up. It's a numbers game but that is part of the fun.[/QUOTE]Correct to the T.

It takes a lot of preparation (and you having fun getting your dick wet), but flying in your own girl from SE Asia is worth every penny and every drop of sweat spent preparing.

I should also add Facebook as a legitimate recruitment tool for Filipino girls willing to meet you and extract every ounce of cum from your balls.

[QUOTE=KrayKray;2177895]Recently worked up the intestinal fortitude to check out Miari Texas and Cheonho RLD last Friday. I've lived in Korea for a little over a year but still only have a few hundred Korean words memorized so I've stuck with outcall escorts until Cracker's shutdown. I was curious to see how Korea's RLDs compared with Thailand and Japan's.
[/QUOTE]Jesus. Hooker Hill. 100 bones.

What is the easiest way for s non-Koean to get to Cheonho from the area around Seoul Station? I can navigate the bus system OK but never tried the subway. Is it fairly easy? Also, would a cab be very expensive? Where would I ask the driver to drop me?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Zipp0;2180354]What is the easiest way for s non-Koean to get to Cheonho from the area around Seoul Station? I can navigate the bus system OK but never tried the subway. Is it fairly easy? Also, would a cab be very expensive? Where would I ask the driver to drop me?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Install the app "Citymapper," it tells you exactly which train, bus to use and what station exit and entrances to use.

Returned to Miari last week to the same shop and spent the best $95 I've ever spent outside of Thailand. It's still so cheap for me it feels like a crime (which it is.).

[QUOTE=Zipp0;2180354]What is the easiest way for s non-Koean to get to Cheonho from the area around Seoul Station? I can navigate the bus system OK but never tried the subway. Is it fairly easy? Also, would a cab be very expensive? Where would I ask the driver to drop me?

Thanks![/QUOTE]For a cab, just say "cheonho yeok" or "cheonho station". From Seoul Station expect to pay about 15,000+ before midnight and 20,000+ after midnight. I would not consider going there before 10 pm. 10-2 is prime hours. After 2 am the hot, popular girls may call it quits for the night but the ones that haven't had any business that normally only see Korean locals may accept foreigners. Tip: Go there looking good preferably, suit and tie. It helps a great deal. I've seen some foreigners walking Cheonho in T-shirt, shorts and flip flops and to no surprise, leave empty handed. Cheonho is not Nana Plaza.

For a subway, Seoul Station light blue line 4 and ride north to Dongdaemun Culture Park and transfer to the purple line 5. Ride the purple line east to Cheonho Station purple line 5. Total travel time is about 45 minutes to an hour. Just download a subway map on your phone. The ap is free.

Here are some pictures to help. "A" street is your high end and sometimes even snobby girls. "B" is mid range with a very good selection. "T" is kinda dead with some MILFs. "C" Street is your low end and very aggressive. For locals, "see" street offers anal, domination, foot fetish and threesomes but as a foreigner you probably won't have access to these services.

Does anyone have any information about brothel? (Foreigner friendly).

Damn, thanks dude. I owe you a beer at least! I will put this to good use next time in Seoul (soon)!

[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2180665]For a cab, just say "cheonho yeok" or "cheonho station". From Seoul Station expect to pay about 15,000+ before midnight and 20,000+ after midnight. I would not consider going there before 10 pm. 10-2 is prime hours. After 2 am the hot, popular girls may call it quits for the night but the ones that haven't had any business that normally only see Korean locals may accept foreigners. Tip: Go there looking good preferably, suit and tie. It helps a great deal. I've seen some foreigners walking Cheonho in T-shirt, shorts and flip flops and to no surprise, leave empty handed. Cheonho is not Nana Plaza.

For a subway, Seoul Station light blue line 4 and ride north to Dongdaemun Culture Park and transfer to the purple line 5. Ride the purple line east to Cheonho Station purple line 5. Total travel time is about 45 minutes to an hour. Just download a subway map on your phone. The ap is free.

Here are some pictures to help. "A" street is your high end and sometimes even snobby girls. "B" is mid range with a very good selection. "T" is kinda dead with some MILFs. "C" Street is your low end and very aggressive. For locals, "see" street offers anal, domination, foot fetish and threesomes but as a foreigner you probably won't have access to these services.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RainMania;2179479]Correct to the T.

It takes a lot of preparation (and you having fun getting your dick wet), but flying in your own girl from SE Asia is worth every penny and every drop of sweat spent preparing.

I should also add Facebook as a legitimate recruitment tool for Filipino girls willing to meet you and extract every ounce of cum from your balls.[/QUOTE]Any tips on how to find these girls? Any one you have experience with that's reliable? And skillful?

Hello Bros,

Will be on Seoul for one week trip, will be staying near.

This are -Gwanghui-dong, Jung-gu, Seoul.

Please guide me what options I have as this is my first time in seoul.

Regads.

[QUOTE=JimSkim;2182525]Any tips on how to find these girls? Any one you have experience with that's reliable? And skillful?[/QUOTE]My experience is simply go there, meet one at one of the bars on Sukhumvit or in Pattaya. If you have a good time over a period of a few days or so, ask her if she wants to come. I also met an insanely cute and petite Kenyan girl in Bangkok (19 years old) and brought her to Seoul for the weekend. Best $200.00 I ever spent (Air Asia).

Hello,

I was last in Seoul about 5-6 years ago, and had a wonderful HJ massage at a place which was at or near the Royal hotel in Myeongdong.

Pretty sure I found out about it from this forum but now when I search for it, I cannot find any reference to it.

Do I just have a bad memory?

Hi,

I am back in Seoul after 3 yrs, wanted to know about the current scene at the hill (Itaewon) which one to look out for? Any new one in the hill? Recommendations please.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Charlie01;2175617]Where can we find Latina, any specific place preferably near to gangnam?[/QUOTE]They charge you 220000 for 90 minutes (2 shots), but the problem is they can't speak no English and the process is kinda complicated, you'll have to call the pimp when you're at the place where he told you to come (usually around big ass apartments), then you'll meet the pimp and you'll be telling him what kind of girl ya want, how long you want to be there etc and then the pimp's going to tell you which room to go, so anyway you'll need someone who speaks Korean to take you there.

Hey there all,

I will be visiting Korea June 1 to June 12 and will be staying near gangdong.

I do speak fluent Korean and English.

Just looking for a buddy to hang out with.

Inbox me and lets have some fun.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2179072]I think he meant flying over a girl from the Philippines for a week or a long weekend, which is what I do these days. ....[/QUOTE]I am in Manila now and the forum there had a few comments on how hot the Korean students around here were and how unapproachable they were.

That got me thinking that I'd check out the Korean forum and see if there was potential to go there for a little change of scenery.

But since you guys are talking about importing pina's I am guessing not much value in buying a plane ticket. LOL.

I hunt a lot on [URL]pinalove.com[/URL] and SA. There is a great selection and while it can be difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff so to speak I would think that a profile saying you wanted to have a pina come to Korea for a long weekend would get you no end of responses. You can even post an ad on Craigslist.

One caution, if a girl is leaving the Philippines with a sponsored ticket she may have some trouble getting an exit visa, The Philippine immigration people have been known to deny a young, good looking unaccompanied female departure clearance for fears of trafficking.

My advice is to make contacts on the site, come to Manila for a few days and conduct your "interviews" then go through the hiring and visa process to hire her as a live in maid on a couple month contract and bring her over on a legal visa. I am guessing but think you could easily get a maid for less than $US 200 plus room and board a month. If things don't work out, pay her off for the balance of the contract and say good bye.

Also note that it can be a difficult and long process for a pina to get a passport. I have heard of waits of over a year so make sure she already has a valid passport.

From what I have seen here on prices and availability you will be trading a possibility of variety for steady low cost sex and a clean apartment.

Hell hire a maid and a cook LOL.

[URL]https://www.korea4expats.com/article-sponsor-foreign-nanny-maid.html[/URL]

Hello frnds still awaiting your suggestions please suggest.

Easy and good stuff will in seoul only for 10 days.

[QUOTE=RohanDe;2183246]Hello Bros,

Will be on Seoul for one week trip, will be staying near.

This are -Gwanghui-dong, Jung-gu, Seoul.

Please guide me what options I have as this is my first time in seoul.

Regads.[/QUOTE]

Does anyone have knowledge about ladies who appear on [URL]www.beautyleg.com[/URL].

I have heard that some are high class escorts, I have also heard that the website is a front to advertise escorts, I have also heard that certain girls do escorting but not through the website.

There are some amazing ladies pictured on the website.

Any info is appreciated or if any one knows of escort services who provide this level of escort.

Starting in September my company has me traveling to many asian cities. I am trying to unlearn the ropes.

Thanks.

Hey guys!

Third time in Seoul and can speak basic Korean. I also look Korean but am not. From what I've read on these threads (correct me if I'm wrong) the best red light districts are both the Cheonho and Miari Texas districts. Does anyone know how safe it is to go there and get some action? Safety as in not getting arrested by cops, mugged, or getting STD's (while wrapped). Thanks in advance!

Will be in seoul for the first time next week but from what I been reading here looks like all the action or the main action is the hill.

[QUOTE=AidsBoy1;2190770]Hey guys!

Third time in Seoul and can speak basic Korean. I also look Korean but am not. From what I've read on these threads (correct me if I'm wrong) the best red light districts are both the Cheonho and Miari Texas districts. Does anyone know how safe it is to go there and get some action? Safety as in not getting arrested by cops, mugged, or getting STD's (while wrapped). Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorkPlay;2190832]Will be in seoul for the first time next week but from what I been reading here looks like all the action or the main action is the hill.[/QUOTE]I have posted on this before. In Korea prostitution is all over. It is just more difficult for non-Koreans to access. Walk around a train station or a large hotel at night. In alleyways you will see old ladies standing around seemingly doing nothing. They are pimping girls. They may not want your business. Approach them privately so that nobody sees you. That may help especially on a slow night. What to say? Agashi. The Korean word for girl. Or just use sign language for fucking. Come back in a couple of days and try again. After awhile you will get the hang of seeing the prostitution. I was in a town in the province and these beautiful girls would be driving around on scooters delivering tea. It took me awhile to get it. You'll get it too.

[QUOTE=AidsBoy1;2190770]Hey guys!

Third time in Seoul and can speak basic Korean. I also look Korean but am not. From what I've read on these threads (correct me if I'm wrong) the best red light districts are both the Cheonho and Miari Texas districts. Does anyone know how safe it is to go there and get some action? Safety as in not getting arrested by cops, mugged, or getting STD's (while wrapped). Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Cheonho is completely safe. If you look when you enter A and be street, you'll likely see two or three guys standing around smoking a cig and chatting with each other. They are lookouts. The entrance to see street is also monitored by one or two guys. Yes, these guys are gangsters but really just there as bouncers and lookouts. So, no need to worry. There are also a ton of CCTVs aimed at the street. This will give shop owners time to shut down and usher girls away from the windows. I once entered Cheonho but all the glass doors were shut and no girls where inside. Wondering if the whole place went out of business I soon learned that the cops were in the area looking for a suspect. In about 15 minutes (probably after the all clear message) it was business as usual. So long story short, you have no need to worry about a raid. Muggings are also rare because again, there are so many CCTVs pointed everywhere. Seoul in general is very safe even in the early hours in the morning. The establishments / girls themselves have no motive to mug you because that would just bring the cops and nobody needs that.

STDs and STIs? Well, that is always a risk no matter where you punt.

Was up the hill this weekend for the first time in ages. Decided to try Avante Garde because I'd heard really good things about 'Kaye'. Not sure if it was her or not but they wanted 200 k. I refused and the next offer they made was 100 k for 10 minutes.

Ended up walking out. I hope it was just a once off.

Later had a few too many and went into some joint. Not really sure where but she was willing to let me try anal and I don't believe I paid any extra. Sadly the little man didn't want to stand up properly.

Thanks. I'll hit the hill tomorrow. Hope I get better luck LOL. I'll try not to get drunk thou LOL.

[QUOTE=KMongmong;2191320]Was up the hill this weekend for the first time in ages. Decided to try Avante Garde because I'd heard really good things about 'Kaye'. Not sure if it was her or not but they wanted 200 k. I refused and the next offer they made was 100 k for 10 minutes.

Ended up walking out. I hope it was just a once off.

Later had a few too many and went into some joint. Not really sure where but she was willing to let me try anal and I don't believe I paid any extra. Sadly the little man didn't want to stand up properly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2191206]Cheonho is completely safe. If you look when you enter A and be street, you'll likely see two or three guys standing around smoking a cig and chatting with each other. They are lookouts. The entrance to see street is also monitored by one or two guys. Yes, these guys are gangsters but really just there as bouncers and lookouts. So, no need to worry. There are also a ton of CCTVs aimed at the street. This will give shop owners time to shut down and usher girls away from the windows. I once entered Cheonho but all the glass doors were shut and no girls where inside. Wondering if the whole place went out of business I soon learned that the cops were in the area looking for a suspect. In about 15 minutes (probably after the all clear message) it was business as usual. So long story short, you have no need to worry about a raid. Muggings are also rare because again, there are so many CCTVs pointed everywhere. Seoul in general is very safe even in the early hours in the morning. The establishments / girls themselves have no motive to mug you because that would just bring the cops and nobody needs that.

STDs and STIs? Well, that is always a risk no matter where you punt.[/QUOTE]Hey Shim,

Thanks for the quick and detailed update on Cheonho! I actually went there yesterday and looked around for around 2 hours but could not find their red light district: I might just be bad at this but does anyone have some instructions on where specifically to go in Cheonho? Thanks again in advance, you guys are so helpful.

[QUOTE=AidsBoy1;2191533]Hey Shim,

Thanks for the quick and detailed update on Cheonho! I actually went there yesterday and looked around for around 2 hours but could not find their red light district: I might just be bad at this but does anyone have some instructions on where specifically to go in Cheonho? Thanks again in advance, you guys are so helpful.[/QUOTE]These should help.

[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2191867]These should help.[/QUOTE]Thanks again Shim! Unfortunately however, I am from the United States and they are not accepting my credit card on this site so I'm not able to purchase a premium membership to download the images. I realize I'm asking for a lot but could you give me some detailed directions (in words) from Google maps? Thanks so much again

[QUOTE=AidsBoy1;2191960]Thanks again Shim! Unfortunately however, I am from the United States and they are not accepting my credit card on this site so I'm not able to purchase a premium membership to download the images. I realize I'm asking for a lot but could you give me some detailed directions (in words) from Google maps? Thanks so much again[/QUOTE]As noted above, there is a cash option for subscriptions.

Hi team,

Just arrived in from Singapore today and here for the weekend. Don't speak a word of Korean but keen to checkout Seoul with anyone who knows the local scene tomorrow or Friday. Originally from NZ.

Kiwi in Seoul this weekend. Anyone local or also here for work wanting to catch up and show a newbie around?

[QUOTE=AidsBoy1;2191533]Hey Shim,

Thanks for the quick and detailed update on Cheonho! I actually went there yesterday and looked around for around 2 hours but could not find their red light district: I might just be bad at this but does anyone have some instructions on where specifically to go in Cheonho? Thanks again in advance, you guys are so helpful.[/QUOTE]You seriously looked for 2 hours and couldn't find it? A simple google search would've saved your time. Hell, even google image search 'Cheonho red light' and it'll show you a map.

I have punted in a lot of different countries but not in Korea so far. After reading the forum, I am not optimistic about being successful at the RLD's, given that I non-Korean, non-white, and speak zero Korean.

I think I am going to try an outcall option. If there are recommendations, I'd appreciate it.

I'll post a review assuming I'm successful.

[QUOTE=AidsBoy1;2191960]Thanks again Shim! Unfortunately however, I am from the United States and they are not accepting my credit card on this site so I'm not able to purchase a premium membership to download the images. I realize I'm asking for a lot but could you give me some detailed directions (in words) from Google maps? Thanks so much again[/QUOTE]Make sure you don't tell the girls your profile name on here LOL.

[QUOTE=Sammi123;2192424]I have punted in a lot of different countries but not in Korea so far. After reading the forum, I am not optimistic about being successful at the RLD's, given that I non-Korean, non-white, and speak zero Korean.

I think I am going to try an outcall option. If there are recommendations, I'd appreciate it.

I'll post a review assuming I'm successful.[/QUOTE]I recommend Jace.

Hi. I will be staying at best western arirang hill near sunshing women university. Can someone advise a massage place that is accessible from here (I. E. Nude massage or BtoB ÷ HJ). Jinju in Gangnam seems to be too far from there. Thanks.

Next station from Sungshin you station is Gireum station. Right in front of that station is a red light district.

Two station over is Miasagri station. Famous for HJ / FS CIM massage parlors and officetels. Theres one out of exit 3 called "twosome spa" in korean. But not sure if they take walkins I have their number but I don't think I can post it here. Anyway cost is 130,000 won for massage, one shot, and hand pull. 150,000 won for 2 shots. Good luck.

[QUOTE=ElFrances;2193347]Hi. I will be staying at best western arirang hill near sunshing women university. Can someone advise a massage place that is accessible from here (I. E. Nude massage or BtoB HJ). Jinju in Gangnam seems to be too far from there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2193470]Next station from Sungshin you station is Gireum station. Right in front of that station is a red light district.

Two station over is Miasagri station. Famous for HJ / FS CIM massage parlors and officetels. Theres one out of exit 3 called "twosome spa" in korean. But not sure if they take walkins I have their number but I don't think I can post it here. Anyway cost is 130,000 won for massage, one shot, and hand pull. 150,000 won for 2 shots. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Great! Thank you! I hope the language will not make it too difficult. If you have time, please pm me the phone number!

Cheers.

I always wanted to try one in Korea. Any tips?

[QUOTE=RedWolf;2159580]Yes, Bean wanted a lot more than 100 but she negotiated down to 100 (she wouldn't take 80 K on a slow Monday night) with no extras. I. e. Only CBJ, short time, no GFE. If you want the thicker thighs and ass, yes to her. I like do that but I preferred the effort of Kay as you see next.

My top girl in this report is Kay. Lean and quite tall for a Korean. Guess that she has see cup MM but I didn't see scars. For 100, she was totally GFE with kissing, BBBJ, and even CIM, YMMV. She has a more private place including shower / bathroom and didn't need to have a bunch of drinks first. She gave more more traditional service also with showering, cleaning, wiping, and offering water. She is no doubt my #1 in Itaewon. I think that I got lucky that we hit it off. So I would not expect the same level of service for what I received. YMMV.

Finally, Candy at Tiffany, her body looks good with or without lingerie, but she is definitely all business, as she wanted not less than 300 or 250 at the end of the night, besides pumping for 40 K won lady drinks. Honestly, I cannot imagine anyone having fun unless they want to throw down 250+. She is a convincing kisser if you are burning lots of won. She expects total more than 300 K, even on the slowest night. Maybe it has something to doing with being on the major street.[/QUOTE]Please PM me details I am new in Seoul and looking for pointer.

I love MILF and GILFs and wouldn't mind fucking one. I heard about these women but wondering where in Seoul or Busan I can find them?? Also what time should I go? I prefer the night.

[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;2196603]I love MILF and GILFs and wouldn't mind fucking one. I heard about these women but wondering where in Seoul or Busan I can find them?? Also what time should I go? I prefer the night.[/QUOTE]The Baccus ladies were famous around Tapgol park in Jongno. Don't know if they still are around though.

You can find ladies past their prime around RLDs. Usually if they won't take a foreigner there will be somewhere nearby that has older ladies who don't care and will do anyone, just ask around. Did it once years ago and it was awful in Yeongdeungpo.

[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;2196603]I love MILF and GILFs and wouldn't mind fucking one. I heard about these women but wondering where in Seoul or Busan I can find them?? Also what time should I go? I prefer the night.[/QUOTE]According to Wiki:

Bacchus Ladies (Hangul: 박52852;49828; 할47672;45768;; RR: bagkaseu halmeoni) are elderly Korean prostitutes who solicit in parks and plazas in Seoul for sex in nearby motels. They traditionally made a living by selling bottles of the popular Bacchus energy drink in the parks where elderly men gather to socialize. The women are in their 50's, 60's, and some even their 80's. The price for selling sex is about 20,000 to 30,000 won ($18–26), or even less if the man is a regular client. Per testimony, about 400 women work in Jongmyo Park in Seoul. Younger men in their 20's to 40's are also increasingly becoming regular clients.

Hello,

I am staying in the Yongsan district and I am looking for a massage parlor with extras without having to travel too much. Unfortunately, I do not speak much Korean. Could anyone give me pointers about places and rates?

Thanks,

Salsa2005.

After reading some of Wild Wind's old posts about getting rimjobs in Gangnam barbershops, I was looking forward to going to some of those and hitting up some of my old barbershop joints from the good old days, a decade ago, in Seoul. Then I read some posts by the_real_mongoose on reddit and he said that the barbershops in Seoul are totally legit. If that's true, that's heartbreaking, because I love barbershops. If all the barbershops in Seoul have gone legit and don't offer any action, how far outside of Seoul do I have to go to get some action?

[QUOTE=KMongmong;2196669]The Baccus ladies were famous around Tapgol park in Jongno. Don't know if they still are around though.

You can find ladies past their prime around RLDs. Usually if they won't take a foreigner there will be somewhere nearby that has older ladies who don't care and will do anyone, just ask around. Did it once years ago and it was awful in Yeongdeungpo.[/QUOTE]What's an RLDS? And how old are the women? Can I find anyone in their 50's?

I was looking on sites and jesus 200 to 300. Is there anything out there for under 100?

Anyone has experience using the [URL]cityoflove.com[/URL] page?

Some seriously sexy looking Koreans there. Surprised the page never mentioned here.

Going to try out Start Anma over next days. For their 3 p course. Also intrigued to try Donut Anma as mentioned a few times here, cannot figure out if some action take place in public (as Fish) or not?

[QUOTE=JKorea;2197173]Anyone has experience using the [URL]cityoflove.com[/URL] page?

Some seriously sexy looking Koreans there. Surprised the page never mentioned here.

Going to try out Start Anma over next days. For their 3 p course. Also intrigued to try Donut Anma as mentioned a few times here, cannot figure out if some action take place in public (as Fish) or not?[/QUOTE]Specifically. Anyone has experience with Minjung?

[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;2197152]I was looking on sites and jesus 200 to 300. Is there anything out there for under 100?[/QUOTE]Get used to seeing 200 to 300 LOL.

I'm back in Seoul, but sadly, only for a week this time. (Usually I'm able to stay for several weeks.).

[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;2197152]I was looking on sites and jesus 200 to 300. Is there anything out there for under 100?[/QUOTE]The RLDs (red light districts) at Cheonho and Miari are my goto places. On this trip, I've already seen one girl at Cheonho for 80 k, and another girl at Miari for 90 k. But, (1) I'm a Korean-American and can speak a little Korean, and (2) in both cases I paid for "short time" (20 min.). Search this thread and you will find info on their locations and directions.

[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;2197152]I was looking on sites and jesus 200 to 300. Is there anything out there for under 100?[/QUOTE]You haven't seen the even more deluded ones on massage republic demanding 500-700 k per hour (aka per shot).

[QUOTE=YeongIl;2197329]I'm back in Seoul, but sadly, only for a week this time. (Usually I'm able to stay for several weeks.).

The RLDs (red light districts) at Cheonho and Miari are my goto places. On this trip, I've already seen one girl at Cheonho for 80 k, and another girl at Miari for 90 k. But, (1) I'm a Korean-American and can speak a little Korean, and (2) in both cases I paid for "short time" (20 min.). Search this thread and you will find info on their locations and directions.[/QUOTE]Thanks but can they come to your hotel room? I don't really going to those RLDS.

[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;2197375]Thanks but can they come to your hotel room? I don't really going to those RLDS.[/QUOTE]I doubt it. If you are a regular for a specific girl, maybe you can convince her to come to you outside of her working hours, and that way she wouldn't have to give anything to the ajumma. I think there are a couple of veterans here who do this.

Any suggestions on activity in the Bundang / Pangyo area? I speak limited Korean but not fluent. I've looked in the Avenue France and La Street areas as well as around the Marriott Hotel there and Techno Valley area. Seems there are possibilities but I haven't picked up on them.

Thank you.

Hello,

I have a long 9 HR layover in Incheon Airport from 7 AM - 4 PM; not exactly prime hours to visit the RLDs. I realize not many places will be open. I've RTFF and think Miari is my only option? I've also read about the Yellow House in Incheon, but no one seems to know if there is any midday action.

What other options do I have aside from RLDs?

I mainly stay in Busan but go to Seoul often. Does anyone know where I can some mature ladies that will come to your room let me know.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Yiruma;2198088]Hello,

I have a long 9 HR layover in Incheon Airport from 7 AM - 4 PM; not exactly prime hours to visit the RLDs. I realize not many places will be open. I've RTFF and think Miari is my only option? I've also read about the Yellow House in Incheon, but no one seems to know if there is any midday action.

What other options do I have aside from RLDs?[/QUOTE]I hate to say it, but you are pretty much screwed. I can't speak about Mirari since I haven't been there in a long time, and the only times I've been there have been at night, but I don't think they are open during the day (I could be wrong). If you speak Korean and can get in, an Officetel near the area might work, but even then, most Officetel's don't really start until 1-2 pm at the earliest based on my experience. Your only other bet might be to try to find a massage place that offers extras. Most of your layover is during peak non-mongering hours.

At Ottiss:

Bundang for sure has Officetels (a co-worker tells me about them all the time), but if you are not Korean, you may have a hard time getting in. Lots of Korean girls I've seen complain about "the size" of non-Koreans so they tend to refuse Westerners. Another option might be hostess bars, but be prepared to spend a lot of money with no guarantees depending on the establishment.

[QUOTE=Yiruma;2198088]Hello,

I have a long 9 HR layover in Incheon Airport from 7 AM - 4 PM; not exactly prime hours to visit the RLDs. I realize not many places will be open. I've also read about the Yellow House in Incheon, but no one seems to know if there is any midday action. [/QUOTE]I have no experience here but I believe I read on this forum about places in Incheon which cater to people in just your type of situation. You may want to search on ISG " Incheon Airport ". A taxi driver might help you. At the airport he might have some limited English but sufficient to get your message across.

[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2192706]I recommend Jace.[/QUOTE]Appreciated the recommendation for Jace.

She was easy to contact my e-mail and was able to schedule outcall without a problem.

On the expensive side (250 K KRW or $240) I suppose, for one hour GFE, but I felt incapable of managing the RLD scene being non-Korean with no language skills whatsoever. Also didn't want to be wandering around at night in unfamiliar parts of town.

Jace came discreetly to my hotel at the appointed time. All of our communication was managed via e-mail. GND type looks. Pretty, not over-the-top beautiful. Speaks exceptional English. Very friendly and easy to talk to. Nice DFK and BBBJ. I suspect CIM is possible, but I preferred to have her tease / lick me to completion for round 1. More of the same and standard sex for round 2.

I enjoyed my time and may repeat on my next trip to Seoul.

Thanks, ShimShimHeyo.

[QUOTE=Sammi123;2199950]Appreciated the recommendation for Jace.
I enjoyed my time and may repeat on my next trip to Seoul.

Thanks, ShimShimHeyo.[/QUOTE]She gets better the more you meet her. She has an amazing memory and after a few bookings, she will jump into your arms as soon as you open the door. Very cute.

Has anyone tried out the Yeoungdeung po RLD these days?

Do they offer showers or do they just wipe you down?

I'm into older women and wouldn't mind trying a Bacchus lady. Heard they're pretty cheap. Does anyone where to find them?

I'll be in Incheon this weekend. Does anyone have any recommendations for places to get some action?

Was in on Sunday night / Monday morning late (3 am?) and the hill was dead. One place had two girls in there on the right, walking down from Itaewon Land. Went in and the lady was pretty nice but wanted a bit too much and also 30 k drinks for her and just too pushy. Maybe it was avante garde again. I said I'd head off to the ATM and then met a freelancer sitting on a step further down. Not everyone's cup of tea but she was 40+ and really good fun. Enthusiastic apart from a covered BJ that was pretty pointless. Showered me before and after, no problem with any position and no time limit. Just wish I were a little more sober to finish the job properly.

I wondered if there are any kissing rooms left in Seoul. If so, please share a location.

Thank you,

Salsa 2005.

Hey,

I'm going to be in Seoul in a few weeks and, seeing as Sarah seems to have disappeared, I was looking through the listings on massage republic. Three caught my eye: Lilly Jung, "Independent" Kim, and "Korean Barbie" Jeni. All look gorgeous and have glowing reviews. Any one here have experience with any of them?

[QUOTE=RedWolf;2159580]Yes, Bean wanted a lot more than 100 but she negotiated down to 100 (she wouldn't take 80 K on a slow Monday night) with no extras. I. e. Only CBJ, short time, no GFE. If you want the thicker thighs and ass, yes to her. I like do that but I preferred the effort of Kay as you see next.

My top girl in this report is Kay. Lean and quite tall for a Korean. Guess that she has see cup MM but I didn't see scars. For 100, she was totally GFE with kissing, BBBJ, and even CIM, YMMV. She has a more private place including shower / bathroom and didn't need to have a bunch of drinks first. She gave more more traditional service also with showering, cleaning, wiping, and offering water. She is no doubt my #1 in Itaewon. I think that I got lucky that we hit it off. So I would not expect the same level of service for what I received. YMMV.

Finally, Candy at Tiffany, her body looks good with or without lingerie, but she is definitely all business, as she wanted not less than 300 or 250 at the end of the night, besides pumping for 40 K won lady drinks. Honestly, I cannot imagine anyone having fun unless they want to throw down 250+. She is a convincing kisser if you are burning lots of won. She expects total more than 300 K, even on the slowest night. Maybe it has something to doing with being on the major street.[/QUOTE]Kay sounds pretty good. What's the best way to contact her?

It's not mentioned here very often, but I recently went to Donut anma, after having tried both Fish and Ace. I thought Donut was better in terms of talent and service. Would recommend. The staff were much nicer than either Fish or Ace. Maybe I got lucky, but they gave me a total stunner too.

[QUOTE=Optional;2205725]It's not mentioned here very often, but I recently went to Donut anma, after having tried both Fish and Ace. I thought Donut was better in terms of talent and service. Would recommend. The staff were much nicer than either Fish or Ace. Maybe I got lucky, but they gave me a total stunner too..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I've tried both Fish and Ace in the past and you've got me curious to try Donut on my next trip. However I've searched these forums and couldn't find detailed mention of how to locate donut anma. I also tried searching an anma and officetel directory site but it wasn't coming up there either. My best guess from googling is it's an establishment in the yeoksam area. Are you able to share directions? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Optional;2205725]It's not mentioned here very often, but I recently went to Donut anma, after having tried both Fish and Ace. I thought Donut was better in terms of talent and service. Would recommend. The staff were much nicer than either Fish or Ace. Maybe I got lucky, but they gave me a total stunner too.[/QUOTE]Couldn't find an edit post option.

Disregard my previous post. I just found the two Seoul map links 7 or 8 pages back. Can't wait to visit.

[QUOTE=SesameOil;2206021]Couldn't find an edit post option.

Disregard my previous post. I just found the two Seoul map links 7 or 8 pages back. Can't wait to visit.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I used the same Seoul map link from 7 or 8 pages back as well. I would recommend going during the daytime, which is when I went. The mamasan said that they have different staff in the daytime compared to nighttime, and that the daytime staff and girl quality was much better. They receptionists were very friendly, something I did not feel at Ace or Fish. Let me know how it goes!

[QUOTE=Optional;2206133]Yeah, I used the same Seoul map link from 7 or 8 pages back as well. I would recommend going during the daytime, which is when I went. The mamasan said that they have different staff in the daytime compared to nighttime, and that the daytime staff and girl quality was much better. They receptionists were very friendly, something I did not feel at Ace or Fish. Let me know how it goes![/QUOTE]May I asked what you paid? 1 shot or 2? Thanks.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2206272]May I asked what you paid? 1 shot or 2? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't remember, but the cost is on that Seoul map from 8 pages back. I believe it was about the same as Ace / Fish. 1 shot.

[QUOTE=Yiruma;2198088]Hello,

I have a long 9 HR layover in Incheon Airport from 7 AM - 4 PM; not exactly prime hours to visit the RLDs. I realize not many places will be open. I've RTFF and think Miari is my only option? I've also read about the Yellow House in Incheon, but no one seems to know if there is any midday action.

What other options do I have aside from RLDs?[/QUOTE]In a similar situation next month almost 12 hours of layover, just resigned myself *sigh to the free city, temple, and BMW tours offered by the airport, then hangout at the airport lounge for the reminder until departure.

My first world problems. LOL.

Hello all,

I'll be in Seoul for the first time and unfortunately only there for a couple of days for business. I'm looking most likely for an outcall but what I really want to try is a threesome with a couple of these kpop hotties. Any suggestions or recommendations?? Any independents or agencies I should look into?

Thank you in advance!

Hi,

Are there any escorts that do anal in Seoul?

I used to be a regular contributor to this forum a few years back but have since moved out of Korea. I am heading back for a weekend and was wondering if any of the old anmas that I use to regularly give information on are still open and welcoming to foreigners, particularly Candy in Bundang at Jeongja station. I have scrolled back a few pages and haven't found much information beyond the usual RLD and Itaewon chatter, nice to see that those are still going. However, anyone with anma experience please feel free to post or PM me. I only really have one night to venture out so don't have time to look at all the old spots, hoping all my past good deeds on this forum will lead to some good karma for this trip. Appreciate it and good luck out there.

FLT.

[QUOTE=Splat;2204679]Hey,

I'm going to be in Seoul in a few weeks and, seeing as Sarah seems to have disappeared, I was looking through the listings on massage republic. Three caught my eye: Lilly Jung, "Independent" Kim, and "Korean Barbie" Jeni. All look gorgeous and have glowing reviews. Any one here have experience with any of them?[/QUOTE]Hey man,

I actually met with Jeni just a few days ago. She's great. Pics are definitely real. She completely understands English and speaks it as well nearly fluently, so communication isn't a problem. She was really flexible about scheduling a time too, and very fast responding to her emails. I met her for an incall session. She's got a pretty nice apartment!

Session with her was really good, but what I really liked about it was she wasn't afraid to let herself enjoy the experience! A lot of providers I've been with, especially Asian ones, kinda just defer everything to you, and that makes me feel like she isn't really all that into it, she's just doing stuff to make you feel good. I told Jeni I find it attractive when a women knows what she likes and is clearly enjoying herself, and instead of just deferring all the action to me, she got involved. She pulled out some of her toys, she suggested specific positions she liked best, she told me what little things turn her on the most, etc. And it made for a much more interesting, interactive, and fun experience for me. When she came during our session (albeit with the help of her toy), I knew she wasn't faking it. When she told me what made her horny, I knew she meant it by the little puddle she left on her sheets and how easily I slipped my fingers into her. Not to say she was overbearing or demanding or anything, I was still the star of the show, but it was nice to have some genuine involvement from Jeni.

I had a frank talk with her during some downtime, and for her, the biggest thing is respecting her boundaries. As long as you do that, she'll take really good care of you.

LOL people are really paying USD500 per pop?

Like for real?

Why do all the MR reviews and the one below seem so SIMILAR, as in writing style and grammar?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2210620]LOL people are really paying USD500 per pop?

Like for real?

Why do all the MR reviews and the one below seem so SIMILAR, as in writing style and grammar?[/QUOTE]Who said it was a single pop? And maybe there are better deals out there if you're staying in Korea for a while and have time to do extensive research and pore over pages and pages of forums, or have Korean speaking friends to help you find specific providers. But I was only there for a few days, and compared to what I've paid for comparable high-end providers in major metro areas in other first world countries, this was a bargain.

A quick and straightforward no-hassle experience with a beautiful woman who speaks fluent English and provides all services I'd personally ever want (other than BBFS) at a top level. No need to worry about trying to speak another language. No need to worry about whether I'm getting the someone even half as attractive as the picture, or if I'm going to be turned away for being a foreigner, or if I'm going to get scammed or walk into a bad situation w / pimps or LE in a foreign country, or anything else, all for less than what I usually pay elsewhere. Maybe you don't find that stuff valuable, but I did, and maybe other people here might as well. Maybe not. Either way, don't hate.

[QUOTE=AidsBoy1;2205333]Kay sounds pretty good. What's the best way to contact her?[/QUOTE]I don't have her phone number. Go visit her if you are interested.

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2210671]Who said it was a single pop? And maybe there are better deals out there if you're staying in Korea for a while and have time to do extensive research and pore over pages and pages of forums, or have Korean speaking friends to help you find specific providers. But I was only there for a few days, and compared to what I've paid for comparable high-end providers in major metro areas in other first world countries, this was a bargain.

A quick and straightforward no-hassle experience with a beautiful woman who speaks fluent English and provides all services I'd personally ever want (other than BBFS) at a top level. No need to worry about trying to speak another language. No need to worry about whether I'm getting the someone even half as attractive as the picture, or if I'm going to be turned away for being a foreigner, or if I'm going to get scammed or walk into a bad situation w / pimps or LE in a foreign country, or anything else, all for less than what I usually pay elsewhere. Maybe you don't find that stuff valuable, but I did, and maybe other people here might as well. Maybe not. Either way, don't hate.[/QUOTE]It's not hating.

It's calling a self advertiser for what she is. Heck, even your 'review' reads almost word for word as your MR as page LOL.

If you’re as good as you claim, the SB guys should be raving about you on their forum like they did with Sarah and other genuine top end providers, but I don’t see anything other than ‘first time’ reviewers on here and MR who all seem to have the same writing style.

Business must be going great if you have to generate your own reviews lol.

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2210671]Who said it was a single pop? And maybe there are better deals out there if you're staying in Korea for a while and have time to do extensive research and pore over pages and pages of forums, or have Korean speaking friends to help you find specific providers. But I was only there for a few days, and compared to what I've paid for comparable high-end providers in major metro areas in other first world countries, this was a bargain.

A quick and straightforward no-hassle experience with a beautiful woman who speaks fluent English and provides all services I'd personally ever want (other than BBFS) at a top level. No need to worry about trying to speak another language. No need to worry about whether I'm getting the someone even half as attractive as the picture, or if I'm going to be turned away for being a foreigner, or if I'm going to get scammed or walk into a bad situation w / pimps or LE in a foreign country, or anything else, all for less than what I usually pay elsewhere. Maybe you don't find that stuff valuable, but I did, and maybe other people here might as well. Maybe not. Either way, don't hate.[/QUOTE]Haha you got called out and busted LOL.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2210857]It's not hating.

It's calling a self advertiser for what she is. Heck, even your 'review' reads almost word for word as your MR as page LOL.

If youre as good as you claim, the SB guys should be raving about you on their forum like they did with Sarah and other genuine top end providers, but I dont see anything other than first time reviewers on here and MR who all seem to have the same writing style.

Business must be going great if you have to generate your own reviews lol.[/QUOTE]You seem convinced I'm the provider just posing as a client when I'm not. I'm just here trying to do a legit review and contribute to the community, but hey I guess if you're just going to dismiss it and pretend its a fake review, then I guess good luck I won't provide any input or reviews in the future.

Jeni, the girl I reviewed, hasn't been in the business very long according to her. I don't know who Sarah is, but I'd imagine she didn't build up her rep instantly.

Wow, either you are really clueless or you just like to burn money on plastic aunties with rules. Korea is King of BBFS with young Korean girls at half the price. The "girl" you had is leftovers since she can't compete with the younger girls. Happens all the time. Just inflates prices to lazy foreigners since she can't attract the Korean customers.

Massagerepublic site is for the clueless that doesn't mind overpriced leftovers.

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2210009]
I had a frank talk with her during some downtime, and for her, the biggest thing is respecting her boundaries. As long as you do that, she'll take really good care of you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2210874]You seem convinced I'm the provider just posing as a client when I'm not. I'm just here trying to do a legit review and contribute to the community, but hey I guess if you're just going to dismiss it and pretend its a fake review, then I guess good luck I won't provide any input or reviews in the future.

Jeni, the girl I reviewed, hasn't been in the business very long according to her. I don't know who Sarah is, but I'd imagine she didn't build up her rep instantly.[/QUOTE]'Jeni' hasnt been in the business for long but sees it fit to charge 500 USD per hour from the get go? What does 'she' do that justifies that fee? What's her pimp's cut? Or are there that many gullible foreigners dropping a month's rent on a non-BBFS timed experience?

Even the pricing structure makes no sense. 500 USD per hour but 2 k USD for the whole night?

You're right, Sarah didn't build her rep instantly. She started off at 150 k per hour, and slowly worked her way to 600 k per hour which probably priced out the vast majority of her admirers.

From the looks of things, 'Jeni' won't be in the business for long either if all her reviewers write like they all had the same English teacher, and they all sound exactly like her ad with no legit pointers on why mongerers should choose her over the already over-priced girls on MR that are asking for 300 USD+.

If you got more than one pop from your appointment with Jeni, how many hours did you stay, how many pops did you get, and how much did you pay?

Hey,

Are there fetish specific services in Seoul? More specifically with pregnant women?

Thank you.

Sam.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2210857]If youre as good as you claim, the SB guys should be raving about you on their forum like they did with Sarah and other genuine top end providers, but I dont see anything other than first time reviewers on here and MR who all seem to have the same writing style.[/QUOTE]So is there anyone the SB guys are raving about these days? Or anyone with a similar hipster MPDG style like Sarah had?

[QUOTE=Splat;2212518]So is there anyone the SB guys are raving about these days? Or anyone with a similar hipster MPDG style like Sarah had?[/QUOTE]There is no one, because they are all overpriced and do not represent good value at all. That includes ANY 'independent' or 'agency' that comes on here trying to drum up some business and draw suckers in.

These days, SB guys mostly talk about the same anmas that have been mentioned here.

I now tell people to skip mongering in Korea altogether (unless they're here for longer than 2 weeks), because outside of the foreigner friendly RLDs and anmas that are sometimes foreigner friendly, there isn't really much (for outsiders) that would guarantee a good time without shelling out in excess of USD200 for one measly pop.

The korean mongering scene is like this by design, and there are greedy people eagerly waiting to rip blue-balls foreigners off just for the privilege of getting some bland, mediocre poon.

Save your money, buy a ticket to Thailand, Philippines or even Hong Kong for a weekend if you can. Plenty of proper action there that will cost less than 5 hours with 90% of providers on MR (cost of flight, accommodation, food and pussy combined).

[QUOTE=RainMania;2212708]There is no one, because they are all overpriced and do not represent good value at all. That includes ANY 'independent' or 'agency' that comes on here trying to drum up some business and draw suckers in.

These days, SB guys mostly talk about the same anmas that have been mentioned here.

I now tell people to skip mongering in Korea altogether (unless they're here for longer than 2 weeks), because outside of the foreigner friendly RLDs and anmas that are sometimes foreigner friendly, there isn't really much (for outsiders) that would guarantee a good time without shelling out in excess of USD200 for one measly pop.

The korean mongering scene is like this by design, and there are greedy people eagerly waiting to rip blue-balls foreigners off just for the privilege of getting some bland, mediocre poon.

Save your money, buy a ticket to Thailand, Philippines or even Hong Kong for a weekend if you can. Plenty of proper action there that will cost less than 5 hours with 90% of providers on MR (cost of flight, accommodation, food and pussy combined).[/QUOTE]I'm not really asking about prices or deals, just personalities. I'm not wanting to go to SEA for cheap sex, just looking for high quality in the place where I want to have it. 2000 for a *good* overnight back home wouldn't be that notable. But if there aren't any proper high end escorts in Seoul now that Sarah is gone, I guess that's that. Shame.

[QUOTE=Splat;2212856]I'm not really asking about prices or deals, just personalities. I'm not wanting to go to SEA for cheap sex, just looking for high quality in the place where I want to have it. 2000 for a *good* overnight back home wouldn't be that notable. But if there aren't any proper high end escorts in Seoul now that Sarah is gone, I guess that's that. Shame.[/QUOTE]I don't think I mentioned cheap sex. I deliberately used the word VALUE.

I don't know where you're from, but where I'm from USD2000 for an overnight means you've been had. Particularly when there are plenty of providers that would offer a service just as good for half the price.

'High end escort' is a thoroughly subjective phrase. For some people, high end means they shell out in excess of USD1000 for one pop, for mere mortals like myself, we prefer to feel like it was money well spent (ie can something similar be had elsewhere for a cheaper price with little effort). Shelling out top dollar for sex is not the issue, shelling that much for mediocre sex is the issue.

No, there are no more 'Sarah'-type providers for foreigners in Seoul as far as I'm aware or concerned. Even if there were, that person wouldn't represent value at present rates no matter how skilled they are.

Hey,

Writting here about one amazing experience I had because let's try to forget about the bad ones.

So I was looking through and trying some escorts and agencies and had some bad experiences.

Girls rushing out before 1 h. Got baited and another girl came.

Until I found what looked like a more professional agency.

They answer fast and with good English skills.

You can choose the girl on the website and there is no "bait and switch" like happened to me before.

I chose Sharon because she seemed more of my style and she was exactly like the profile.

Excellent GFE, excellent service and very important is that she stayed the full hour.

Really worth for me and I am sure I'll ask for her again.

[URL]https://www.internationaltourguideclub.com/[/URL]

Cheers.

[QUOTE=JonRam;2213362]Hey,

Writting here about one amazing experience I had because let's try to forget about the bad ones.

So I was looking through and trying some escorts and agencies and had some bad experiences.

Girls rushing out before 1 h. Got baited and another girl came.

Until I found what looked like a more professional agency.

They answer fast and with good English skills.

You can choose the girl on the website and there is no "bait and switch" like happened to me before.

I chose Sharon because she seemed more of my style and she was exactly like the profile.

Excellent GFE, excellent service and very important is that she stayed the full hour.

Really worth for me and I am sure I'll ask for her again.

[URL]https://www.internationaltourguideclub.com/[/URL]

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Ummmm wow. This is 100 an agency pretending to be a customer haha. Hey you should pay for advertising like other businesses. You're still not clever enough to fool anyone. I suppose you charge 300 to 500 an hour as well? LOL.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2213628]Ummmm wow. This is 100 an agency pretending to be a customer haha. Hey you should pay for advertising like other businesses. You're still not clever enough to fool anyone. I suppose you charge 300 to 500 an hour as well? LOL.[/QUOTE]Why do you assume it's an agency? You can imagine how funny that is on my perspective.

I just came here to do a quick review of what I experienced and just exposed the agency that satisfied me more and was more professional, that's it.

If you think it's an agency doing an advertise just ignore.

[QUOTE=JonRam;2213839]Why do you assume it's an agency? You can imagine how funny that is on my perspective.

I just came here to do a quick review of what I experienced and just exposed the agency that satisfied me more and was more professional, that's it.

If you think it's an agency doing an advertise just ignore.[/QUOTE]Pimps and providers have become so lazy they just rehash the same "review" others have tried to use over the years.

We can't and won't just ignore. You have distorted the market to the point where nobody wants your business anymore. Instead of you realising you've lost and need to make amends so customers will come back, you decide to play the oldest trick in the book.

If your "review" is genuine, How many hours? How many pops? How much did it cost? What services did you get?

Listen to my advice, you offer no VALUE to your customers. What's the point when we can just go to miari, hooker hill or any barbershop for the same service or even better service at less than half the price you're offering? The more adventurous of us have found officetels, anmas, lip cafes and so on where we KNOW the value of what the market has to offer.

Others among us have decided to venture out even further and now play in SE Asia, the same things other KOREAN guys now do, because the local market is so fucked up and dominated by greedy shits that want top dollar for minimum effort.

You probably won't listen though. Keep making fake reviews for yourself and wiping th dust off you're phone. Hopefully you'll catch a sucker by the end of the year.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2213958]Pimps and providers have become so lazy they just rehash the same "review" others have tried to use over the years.

We can't and won't just ignore. You have distorted the market to the point where nobody wants your business anymore. Instead of you realising you've lost and need to make amends so customers will come back, you decide to play the oldest trick in the book.

If your "review" is genuine, How many hours? How many pops? How much did it cost? What services did you get?

Listen to my advice, you offer no VALUE to your customers. What's the point when we can just go to miari, hooker hill or any barbershop for the same service or even better service at less than half the price you're offering? The more adventurous of us have found officetels, anmas, lip cafes and so on where we KNOW the value of what the market has to offer.

Others among us have decided to venture out even further and now play in SE Asia, the same things other KOREAN guys now do, because the local market is so fucked up and dominated by greedy shits that want top dollar for minimum effort.

You probably won't listen though. Keep making fake reviews for yourself and wiping th dust off you're phone. Hopefully you'll catch a sucker by the end of the year.[/QUOTE]Very well said!

[QUOTE=RainMania;2213958]Pimps and providers have become so lazy they just rehash the same "review" others have tried to use over the years.

We can't and won't just ignore. You have distorted the market to the point where nobody wants your business anymore. Instead of you realising you've lost and need to make amends so customers will come back, you decide to play the oldest trick in the book.

If your "review" is genuine, How many hours? How many pops? How much did it cost? What services did you get?

Listen to my advice, you offer no VALUE to your customers. What's the point when we can just go to miari, hooker hill or any barbershop for the same service or even better service at less than half the price you're offering? The more adventurous of us have found officetels, anmas, lip cafes and so on where we KNOW the value of what the market has to offer..[/QUOTE]That is well said yes and I know there are many fake reviews and profiles.

But now if you think about it if a true review appears you just automatically think it's fake.

You say you can go to hooker hill, barber shop, etc. I did not try that but I read that they just rush it and have no GFE. I like GFE so I tried escort service instead. I got several bad experiences to be honest but this one was the best.

1 hour, 300 k, 1 pop. The girl was like the photos, DFK, real GFE, BJ without condom, 3 positions. She just asked what I wanted to do but I just wanted normal sex / positions.

And like I pointed already others try to rush and leave before time but not this time.

Most services are 250 k on other places but service is much worse. I prefer 300 k for a service that I really like, that's just up to you, you can go hooker hill and that's it, I am just telling my experience.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2213958]Pimps and providers have become so lazy they just rehash the same "review" others have tried to use over the years.

We can't and won't just ignore. You have distorted the market to the point where nobody wants your business anymore. Instead of you realising you've lost and need to make amends so customers will come back, you decide to play the oldest trick in the book.

If your "review" is genuine, How many hours? How many pops? How much did it cost? What services did you get?

Listen to my advice, you offer no VALUE to your customers. What's the point when we can just go to miari, hooker hill or any barbershop for the same service or even better service at less than half the price you're offering? The more adventurous of us have found officetels, anmas, lip cafes and so on where we KNOW the value of what the market has to offer..[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you brother. Dude, you can't fake a 'cunning Fox' like. RainMania or LovinAsia, BTW, I just checked your website. $275 for a pop?. Get the f* out of here! . I'm flying to HK in a few weeks where last time I banged a K-pop cutie for HK500 $(US65). 40 min of unrushed service in Tsim Sha Tsui Mansion.

[QUOTE=VancouverBoy;2214079]I totally agree with you brother. Dude, you can't fake a 'cunning Fox' like. RainMania or LovinAsia, BTW, I just checked your website. $275 for a pop?. Get the f* out of here! . I'm flying to HK in a few weeks where last time I banged a K-pop cutie for HK500 $(US65). 40 min of unrushed service in Tsim Sha Tsui Mansion.[/QUOTE]Exactly. SK can't even hold a light to HK anymore when it comes to this hobby. They understand the meaning of competition and service there.

It's like the ones here in SK are living in this fantasy land where they believe they deserve CEO-level pay for just existing, both the pimps and providers. Many of them just arrive on the scene and instantly believe most of us are gullible enough to fork out room salon rates for 15-20 minutes of action (because that's what "per hour" really means in this industry).

I remember the 150 k per hour days, which was actually of value because they were more reasonable rates than anmas, room salons and even officetels. And back then it was the well-known girls charging that, newbies were offering 120 and even as low as 100, just 5 years ago.

Now it's the reverse, agencies and independents charging ridiculous premiums with zero improvements or additions to services. Some FOB provider from South America, SE Asia or Eastern Europe can come in and pull fantasy numbers out of their asses (300 k per shot, 500 k per shot HAHA) when we all know they have zero hope of charging even half that in their home countries.

I'the rather pay an airline that 500 k, at least they'll take me somewhere I can get quality poon that understands the meaning of value.

[QUOTE=JonRam;2214046]That is well said yes and I know there are many fake reviews and profiles.

But now if you think about it if a true review appears you just automatically think it's fake.

You say you can go to hooker hill, barber shop, etc. I did not try that but I read that they just rush it and have no GFE. I like GFE so I tried escort service instead. I got several bad experiences to be honest but this one was the best.

1 hour, 300 k, 1 pop. The girl was like the photos, DFK, real GFE, BJ without condom, 3 positions. She just asked what I wanted to do but I just wanted normal sex / positions.

And like I pointed already others try to rush and leave before time but not this time.

Most services are 250 k on other places but service is much worse. I prefer 300 k for a service that I really like, that's just up to you, you can go hooker hill and that's it, I am just telling my experience.[/QUOTE]I know what a real review looks like, and I am not going to teach you how to write one.

Most services are not 250 k, the only people charging 250 k and above for just sex are the agencies and deluded providers on massage republic. They used to spam crackr too till it got shut down.

Even in most anmas, you get a legitimate massage from a separate person at the end. You can actually see where your 250 k goes (building, multiple staff / helpers, food, drinks, provider, masseur and sometimes pickup / dropoff). What does your 250 k get you with an agency or an independent provider?

In most European countries most people would laugh at a provider asking for what we see on the korean section of massage republic. Even the guys on business trips from Singapore / Malaysia / Indonesia are keeping their pants on because they are aware they can get much better back home for a fraction of the price. Like I said before, they are gearing their attention to anmas these days for good reason. And these guys are mostly using company cards and travel expenses, how shitty must your services be when someone isn't even willing to spend another's person's money on you?

I will be visiting this place soon.

I read about 15 pages and seems it's not place for non Korean speaking guys.

Just wondering if it would be good idea to visit Japan from here and come back.

[QUOTE=Bang4444;2214482]I will be visiting this place soon.

I read about 15 pages and seems it's not place for non Korean speaking guys.

Just wondering if it would be good idea to visit Japan from here and come back.[/QUOTE]Depends on what you're looking for and what you look like. If you can pass for East Asian, your options are much higher.

Recommended places:

*all anmas mentioned in this thread over the last few months. Average cost of service will be in the range of 240-260 k won. Your chances of success depends on a lot of factors. But if you at least can pass for a korean, language ability is not an issue.

*Miari RLD, Cheonho RLD, Itaewon Hooker Hill. These are all easier to score in than anmas. Cheonho can be hit and miss, but the other two should yield you a 100% success rate unless you're picky. Rates are 80 k won to 100 k won.

*agencies and independent providers. Not recommended, but it's your money if you're willing to try. You'the be better off in Japan or elsewhere in Asia if this is your preference.

Thanks.

I don't look like South Asian.

If any non Korean guy learn Korean, would that help?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2214498]Depends on what you're looking for and what you look like. If you can pass for East Asian, your options are much higher.

Recommended places:

*all anmas mentioned in this thread over the last few months. Average cost of service will be in the range of 240-260 k won. Your chances of success depends on a lot of factors. But if you at least can pass for a korean, language ability is not an issue.

*Miari RLD, Cheonho RLD, Itaewon Hooker Hill. These are all easier to score in than anmas. Cheonho can be hit and miss, but the other two should yield you a 100% success rate unless you're picky. Rates are 80 k won to 100 k won.

*agencies and independent providers. Not recommended, but it's your money if you're willing to try. You'the be better off in Japan or elsewhere in Asia if this is your preference.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bang4444;2214631]Thanks.

I don't look like South Asian.

If any non Korean guy learn Korean, would that help?[/QUOTE]It helps if you speak korean, especially in the RLDs.

Ultimately what will decide your success is how many korean mongerers are around, which is why blending in is so important. The other factor is how big the girls think your junk is, and they resort to the old stereotypes to make this judgement. The smaller the guy's junk is, the easier it will be for the women, which is another reason why westerners have such a hard time in the P4 P scene here, no matter how inaccurate the girl's assumptions may be.

Hey guys,

New here but I've been reading the thread for a long time now.

Just wanted to add on to the Jeni thingy, so people do not spend their money uselessly.

I met her earlier this year. She is not worth the third of the price she asks.

First, I've never seen someone so pretentious. "hey baby, I'm such a beauty, I'm the best of what Korea has to offer". Her behavior does not match her physical appearance, you could score with a prettier woman at any bar / lounger without trying. I wanted to ask her to leave after 5 minutes of discussion, but for some obscure reasons, I didn't. I still regret it.

Service wise, she is rather good at BJ and does have a smooth skin but that's about it. She does not take initiatives, everything is too mechanical, planned. And she is a clock watcher. I won't go too much in details.

All in all, it is not THAT bad, but certainly not worth 500 USD. For that price, just go to Cheongdam, order two bottles of champagne and spend the night with actual stunners.

Oh. And I just messaged her because someone said he paid 300 k, turns out she actually raised her price to 560 k (haha).

Hey guys,

I'm new here to the board but have no mongered some in HK, Macau, and Japan before, usually for incalls. This time I found myself in Seoul for a couple days to visit some friends. Read about the past 50 pages before arriving, so I appreciate all the info about the anmas, officetels, and other joints in Korea. As I was staying separately in a hotel room and have zero knowledge of Korean / could not find time during the day to visit some of the more popular establishments mentioned on this thread, I decided to try out some out all options.

My first night I reached out to Jace, a independent that has been mentioned here before previously. She was really professional, showed up on time, and definitely was not a clock watcher. Her appearance matched the photo she sent me prior to the appointment. She's a real girl-next-door type of girl, but her body was great. Nearly fluent in english too so no difficulties communicating. Her performance was great. She can take the lead and deliver a real visceral BBBJ. Also very much into DFK if that's your thing. Also, she was the tightest out of the girls I saw on my trip, so overall would definitely recommend.

The next night, I schedule one with a provider named Miso Lee ([URL]https://m.escortdirectory.com/escort/Miso%20Lee-81311/[/URL]). Communication with this person was easy and fast, but I doubt this account is a true independent. "Miso" called my hotel to confirm details, but the person who showed up had a much worse grasp of English and seemed to not know about the call details when I asked her in person. The girl had an okay face, but her body was pretty good. She seemed shy and much more mechanical with the session, but she did respond enthusiastically to fingering, so some aspects felt organic. She also seemed to dodge several DFK attempts during missionary, which turned me off. Overall I feel a little cheated due to the potential bait and switching, but the session was okay overall. Would not repeat again though.

The last night I decided to try an agency. I was attracted to Bohemian mainly due to the past mentions on this thread. They now go by the name of international tour guide club. Scheduling here was the easiest of the three, even though I had some complications with timing, though the person in charge of their WhatsApp is really prompt and kept me updated. I ended up going with Sharon after being sent pictures. When she arrived, she looked like the one in the picture so I was 2/3 for accuracy! She seemed a bit shy, but her English was good enough for us to have a conversation to break some ice. She provided a really intimate intimate experience with lots of cuddling and DFK. She was definitely not shy about tongue. Also, she was just vocal enough for it to not sound over-the-top. Also, her tits were a great size for an Asian girl of her stature (petite). While the price was a little higher than the other two independents, I thought the clear communication and the fact that Sharon was the most attractive provider I saw delivered the extra premium. Would recommend for people looking for outcalls wanting easy booking and an honest experience.

Overall, the experience was decent for my first outcall requests. I definitely learned more about the process after each encounter, and while I've read that prices have been increasing, it seems to be in-line with what I paid in Tokyo and Macau for GFE.

Thinking to going there for vacation. I heard tenpro are basically celebrity level gals but seems to be a bit exclusive? Just curious if there are sites there with them or I need referrals? Is it not possible as a first time visitor to the country?

And are prices standard at clubs or need to negotiate?

[QUOTE=ChrisZapato;2216628]Hey guys,

I'm new here to the board but have no mongered some in HK, Macau, and Japan before, usually for incalls. This time I found myself in Seoul for a couple days to visit some friends. Read about the past 50 pages before arriving, so I appreciate all the info about the anmas, officetels, and other joints in Korea. As I was staying separately in a hotel room and have zero knowledge of Korean / could not find time during the day to visit some of the more popular establishments mentioned on this thread, I decided to try out some out all options.

My first night I reached out to Jace, a independent that has been mentioned here before previously. She was really professional, showed up on time, and definitely was not a clock watcher. Her appearance matched the photo she sent me prior to the appointment. She's a real girl-next-door type of girl, but her body was great. Nearly fluent in english too so no difficulties communicating. Her performance was great. She can take the lead and deliver a real visceral BBBJ. Also very much into DFK if that's your thing. Also, she was the tightest out of the girls I saw on my trip, so overall would definitely recommend..[/QUOTE]Any recommendation where to find good independent?

[QUOTE=ChrisZapato;2216628]

Overall, the experience was decent for my first outcall requests. I definitely learned more about the process after each encounter, and while I've read that prices have been increasing, it seems to be in-line with what I paid in Tokyo and Macau for GFE.[/QUOTE]Are you referring to Macau as in the in-house girls the casinos, spas and resorts have? Because that would not be an in line comparison one bit.

I'll give you Jace, because she's been reviewed and recommended by a trusted member on here in the past.

Tokyo is already notorious as a ridiculously expensive and difficult place for gaijin to get P4 P, especially if one does not possess the necessary language skills. So naturally the vultures swoon in offering their premium price / sub par services. Even then, there is a lot more variety and much better options / prices than what the Seoul agency / independents offer.

I won't criticise you for your experiences, because at the end of the day it's your money. But I will continue to inform other readers about the scam currently going on in the korean scene, so that they can make their choice.

Hi all,

I'm an Asian American looking for a weekend trip from Japan. My first thought was Korea because I love the food, but after going through some of the reports here, it seems it is hard to monger if your speaking ability is low.

I can read (who can't) and know basic phrases / sentences, but that's about it.

My preferences are 20-30 year olds, East Asian, $100-200, GFE covered is ok, and preferably to be shown a line up so no bait and switch.

Based on that it seems that I would navigate towards anma's. Looking for rec for younger providers with decent service.

If you had to choose, would you monger in Korea or anywhere else? HK was mentioned here, so that is another option I am looking at, but I speak no Cantonese or know how to read any Chinese.

[QUOTE=SmashPuss;2217943]Hi all,

I'm an Asian American looking for a weekend trip from Japan. My first thought was Korea because I love the food, but after going through some of the reports here, it seems it is hard to monger if your speaking ability is low.

I can read (who can't) and know basic phrases / sentences, but that's about it.

My preferences are 20-30 year olds, East Asian, $100-200, GFE covered is ok, and preferably to be shown a line up so no bait and switch.

Based on that it seems that I would navigate towards anma's. Looking for rec for younger providers with decent service.

If you had to choose, would you monger in Korea or anywhere else? HK was mentioned here, so that is another option I am looking at, but I speak no Cantonese or know how to read any Chinese.[/QUOTE]You want to see line ups, pay $100, and you only speak English? I don't think you'll find what you're looking for in South Korea (except the food, which is delicious). Hong Kong doesn't really have what you're looking for either. Macau would probably come closest to what you're looking for, unless you wanted to go to Bangkok for the soapy massage parlors or Kuala Lumpur for the spas.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2217988]You want to see line ups, pay $100, and you only speak English? I don't think you'll find what you're looking for in South Korea (except the food, which is delicious). Hong Kong doesn't really have what you're looking for either. Macau would probably come closest to what you're looking for, unless you wanted to go to Bangkok for the soapy massage parlors or Kuala Lumpur for the spas.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. Macau sounds like a better idea, it looks like $200-300 can get you pretty far in terms of service at saunas. I still might spend some time in Korea just to eat. I don't really want to go to Bangkok because I don't want to be asked, "Why did you go to Bangkok for only 3 days?" kind of thing.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2214416]

In most European countries most people would laugh at a provider asking for what we see on the korean section of massage republic.
[/QUOTE]In fairness most of the providers working in 1st world agencies, etc are not themselves from first world countries. It would be one thing if say Thai girls in Korea were jacking up prices.

So for most of these outcall agencies will they answer questions about service level, ie I want to confirm BBBJ, etc, or is it like in the states where legalities make people dance around that stuff?

[QUOTE=Meiji;2219250]In fairness most of the providers working in 1st world agencies, etc are not themselves from first world countries. It would be one thing if say Thai girls in Korea were jacking up prices.

So for most of these outcall agencies will they answer questions about service level, ie I want to confirm BBBJ, etc, or is it like in the states where legalities make people dance around that stuff?[/QUOTE]

I'd say otherwise. Most providers in first world countries are citizens of those countries. Whether they're agencies, brothels or independents. It's not just Thai girls jacking up prices in Korea. You've got Cambodians, Filipinas, Russians, Ukrainians and girls from as far as Colombia, Venezuela and other S American countries coming to Korea and charging foreigners far more than most korean men would even think about paying.

There are two markets here. The korean market is mostly closed to non-korean mongerers. This is where premium charges for foreign men arise. The agencies and girls know most foreign clients are short term visitors with almost no chance of accessing the local scene, so they resort to the extortionate figures we've been seeing for the past few years.

Agencies will answer any questions you have, but ultimately the service depends on the girl. And you have no idea or guarantee of which girl they'll send (plenty of bait and switch), regardless of any promises made.

[QUOTE=SmashPuss;2218619]Thanks for the advice. Macau sounds like a better idea, it looks like $200-300 can get you pretty far in terms of service at saunas. I still might spend some time in Korea just to eat. I don't really want to go to Bangkok because I don't want to be asked, "Why did you go to Bangkok for only 3 days?" kind of thing.[/QUOTE]Macau is also quite expensive though. Out of those mentioned I would definitely suggest Kuala Lumpur. Plenty of English, prices are good, can do clubs like Beach Club or Thai Club, or a fishbowl. Better value for what you are after. Or go to the Philippines and have everything (except price) x200!

[QUOTE=RainMania;2214416]I know what a real review looks like, and I am not going to teach you how to write one.

Most services are not 250 k, the only people charging 250 k and above for just sex are the agencies and deluded providers on massage republic. They used to spam crackr too till it got shut down.

Even in most anmas, you get a legitimate massage from a separate person at the end. You can actually see where your 250 k goes (building, multiple staff / helpers, food, drinks, provider, masseur and sometimes pickup / dropoff). What does your 250 k get you with an agency or an independent provider?

In most European countries most people would laugh at a provider asking for what we see on the korean section of massage republic. Even the guys on business trips from Singapore / Malaysia / Indonesia are keeping their pants on because they are aware they can get much better back home for a fraction of the price. Like I said before, they are gearing their attention to anmas these days for good reason. And these guys are mostly using company cards and travel expenses, how shitty must your services be when someone isn't even willing to spend another's person's money on you?[/QUOTE]There's no "real review looks like", any person can write its own way. I just came here to say what I had to say, let's leave it like that.

Like I said I didn't try anmas and I follow what you say. Thanks for the info.

I wanted a korean girl and I was really satisfied with the service so I just came here for that.

If I would be happy with another service that you mention? Maybe. I don't know because I didn't go there.

[QUOTE=Lioil;2216726]Thinking to going there for vacation. I heard tenpro are basically celebrity level gals but seems to be a bit exclusive? Just curious if there are sites there with them or I need referrals? Is it not possible as a first time visitor to the country?

And are prices standard at clubs or need to negotiate?[/QUOTE]You need to be with Korean or be able to speak Korean in order to go into tenpro. Girls are hot but I would not pay 10 k for one night fun. There are other types of setting like tenpro but little different. All cost around 250 300 per person but again you need to be either with Korean to enter into these places.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2219408]I'd say otherwise. Most providers in first world countries are citizens of those countries. Whether they're agencies, brothels or independents.[/QUOTE]I mean, outside the US, Canada, and Australia -- too isolated, although there's a substantial percentage of non-citizen sex workers in those countries, too -- I can't think of a single country where it's a valid comparison to Korea or Japan, especially Europe. The girls at FKKs are predominantly from Eastern Europe, not actually German. You look at Singapore where sex isn't expensive but ain't cheap, virtually ALL of their sex workers are imports, some with long term visas.

Korea and Japan have a 'closed' market for that very reason. Germans probably don't care that there's an influx of foreigners visiting FKKs because the girls working there are foreigners too.

[QUOTE=SmashPuss;2218619]Thanks for the advice. Macau sounds like a better idea, it looks like $200-300 can get you pretty far in terms of service at saunas. I still might spend some time in Korea just to eat. I don't really want to go to Bangkok because I don't want to be asked, "Why did you go to Bangkok for only 3 days?" kind of thing.[/QUOTE]If your going to spend $200 $300 you can have fun in Korea also.

[QUOTE=Meiji;2219955]I mean, outside the US, Canada, and Australia -- too isolated, although there's a substantial percentage of non-citizen sex workers in those countries, too -- I can't think of a single country where it's a valid comparison to Korea or Japan, especially Europe. The girls at FKKs are predominantly from Eastern Europe, not actually German. You look at Singapore where sex isn't expensive but ain't cheap, virtually ALL of their sex workers are imports, some with long term visas.

Korea and Japan have a 'closed' market for that very reason. Germans probably don't care that there's an influx of foreigners visiting FKKs because the girls working there are foreigners too.[/QUOTE]Even during the FKK glory days when German women made up the majority of providers, I don't think non-German mongerers were kept out to the degree we see in Korea and Japan.

In all the countries you mentioned, I can't think of one where foreign girls come in and charge double and sometimes triple what the locals charge, whether said foreign girls work for an agency or are independents. It's just bizarre and makes zero sense when their target market is a tiny number of transient visitors who may or may not fall for the trap. If anything these girls should be trying to undercut the locals, but it seems they have all banded up to form a cartel of sorts and have all agreed to keep prices in fantasy zone.

And then when the customers start voting with their feet and wallets, the cartel increases rates even further and puts the extra losses on the few remaining customers. Economics 101 LOL.

Korea's sex industry wasn't always anti-foreigner either. Up until the government crackdowns of the late 2000's, getting your dick wet in Korea was as easy as walking in the street. There were just so many RLDs and brothels that openly operated back then. In fact, a lot of US military veterans will tell you Korea in the 70's and 80's put Philippines and Thailand to shame when it came to mongering. By the 90's things were starting to change, but girls and establishments were still plentiful.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2220249]Even during the FKK glory days when German women made up the majority of providers, I don't think non-German mongerers were kept out to the degree we see in Korea and Japan.

In all the countries you mentioned, I can't think of one where foreign girls come in and charge double and sometimes triple what the locals charge, whether said foreign girls work for an agency or are independents. It's just bizarre and makes zero sense when their target market is a tiny number of transient visitors who may or may not fall for the trap. If anything these girls should be trying to undercut the locals, but it seems they have all banded up to form a cartel of sorts and have all agreed to keep prices in fantasy zone.

And then when the customers start voting with their feet and wallets, the cartel increases rates even further and puts the extra losses on the few remaining customers. Economics 101 LOL.
[/QUOTE]I guess my point is here that economics happens, which is your point too. Most 1st world countries don't have 'local' girls providing because they have better options. Very few German girls are going to go down on a guy for 70 Euro or whatever the rate is at an FKK now, but that's big money for a Ukrainian girl. I was with a super-hot girl in France that was advertised from Kazakh and asian, but she turned out to be the perfect Russian ballerina type and happily provided my ugly ass good GFE for 250 Euro.

My knowledge of the Korean sex industry is limited to how it affects the California AAMP market, which is super-healthy with fairly hot K-girls, although they might not be as young or new as girls at the top of their game here. My guess is the racism and economics mix so that most of the market is left to non-Korean girls. Same thing happens in Japan, where without language skills service is either expensive or non-Japanese girls or both.

I don't particularly think cheap pussy is a human right, and having an attractive girl provide outcall GFE to me for US $250-300 is maybe a little pricey but not spectacularly so. Yes, Thai or whatever girls trying to charge 400 K need to be rightly laughed at, but they have a right to charge what they wish, and apparently they or their agencies found some sort of market at that price point. It's not unique. There's several (sketchy) orgs pushing Russian girls in Japan that want the equivalent of US $500. As always, guys should do their research to see what the going rate is for their market -- the market and rate for long-timer Korea hands is going to be different from guys in Korea for a long weekend, etc.

On a semi-related note, in doing my research on places to wet my wick while in Korea coming up, I've found a bunch of places called "Massage Clubs". I'm sure these places are definitely not foreigner-friendly, but are they akin to anma or something else? They have really long term courses, which seems a little strange.

[QUOTE=Justemp;2220233]If your going to spend $200 $300 you can have fun in Korea also.[/QUOTE]You mean for an hour with mechanical service and a clock watcher with 20 min or so of ACTUAL fun?? LOL no thanks.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2220468]You mean for an hour with mechanical service and a clock watcher with 20 min or so of ACTUAL fun?? LOL no thanks.[/QUOTE]Depends on where you go and how you play. Looks like you been burned lot in Korea LOL.

[QUOTE=Meiji;2220354]I guess my point is here that economics happens, which is your point too. Most 1st world countries don't have 'local' girls providing because they have better options. Very few German girls are going to go down on a guy for 70 Euro or whatever the rate is at an FKK now, but that's big money for a Ukrainian girl. I was with a super-hot girl in France that was advertised from Kazakh and asian, but she turned out to be the perfect Russian ballerina type and happily provided my ugly ass good GFE for 250 Euro.

My knowledge of the Korean sex industry is limited to how it affects the California AAMP market, which is super-healthy with fairly hot K-girls, although they might not be as young or new as girls at the top of their game here. My guess is the racism and economics mix so that most of the market is left to non-Korean girls. Same thing happens in Japan, where without language skills service is either expensive or non-Japanese girls or both.

I don't particularly think cheap pussy is a human right, and having an attractive girl provide outcall GFE to me for US $250-300 is maybe a little pricey but not spectacularly so. Yes, Thai or whatever girls trying to charge 400 K need to be rightly laughed at, but they have a right to charge what they wish, and apparently they or their agencies found some sort of market at that price point. It's not unique. There's several (sketchy) orgs pushing Russian girls in Japan that want the equivalent of US $500. As always, guys should do their research to see what the going rate is for their market -- the market and rate for long-timer Korea hands is going to be different from guys in Korea for a long weekend, etc.

On a semi-related note, in doing my research on places to wet my wick while in Korea coming up, I've found a bunch of places called "Massage Clubs". I'm sure these places are definitely not foreigner-friendly, but are they akin to anma or something else? They have really long term courses, which seems a little strange.[/QUOTE]You're right that girls have the right to set their prices however high they want. However, their customers also have the right to point out that simply having a pussy, or simply just existing, does not justify those high prices. Especially when those prices are predatory (at best), and there are very reasonable alternatives around.

The Russian girls in korean officetels can be had for roughly 150-170 k won, where the pimp typically gets 40% of the cut or more, but we're supposed to pay the ones on Massage Republic 300 k won? You can get a Thai massage and boom boom for a combined 120 k won (150-170 k for 2 pops) at Thai massage places in Korea, but the ones on massage republic are starting at 300 k won for a pop? You can get a ticket to Manila for as low as 90 k won (I've seen them go for 70), but the Filipina advertising on MR from her Gangnam hotel is worth 300 k won? None of it makes any sense when you look at what's behind the scenes.

Not every German girl in the sex industry would with for a customer for 70 EUR, but the vast majority of them will do it for 150 EUR, which is on par for that region (UK, France, Germany etc), outside FKK, given FKK are essentially budget brothels.

The massage clubs you're referring to might be the legit Thai ones, or the freaky Thai ones with extra services.

[QUOTE=Justemp;2220477]Depends on where you go and how you play. Looks like you been burned lot in Korea LOL.[/QUOTE]Nope not at all! I've read enough on here where guys are paying 200 to 300 u s an hour for a single pop LOL.

I'm not that dumb or desperate with my money yet LOL.

I've been to a bunch of Gangnam Anmas so far, including Fish, Ace, and Donut. My experience has been very mixed. Of my 4 trips, only once resulted in an actual hot young girl. The other ones were clearly leftovers that Korean clients did not want. So I'm curious. Do the RLDs, such as Cheon-Ho, have better looking and younger girls than the Anmas? Or is it about the same? If the quality is higher in the RLDs, I might go check one out this weekend. Any advice would be appreciated!

[QUOTE=Optional;2220629]I've been to a bunch of Gangnam Anmas so far, including Fish, Ace, and Donut. My experience has been very mixed. Of my 4 trips, only once resulted in an actual hot young girl. The other ones were clearly leftovers that Korean clients did not want. So I'm curious. Do the RLDs, such as Cheon-Ho, have better looking and younger girls than the Anmas? Or is it about the same? If the quality is higher in the RLDs, I might go check one out this weekend. Any advice would be appreciated![/QUOTE]The best girls in Cheonho would be around the same (looks-wise) as the average Anma girl. The thing with Cheonho is you won't be able to score A-row girls unless you look East Asian, if you're white or black A-row girls probably won't go with you (unless it's a particularly quiet night and the stars are aligned).

Be and see row girls however, are in plenty supply and will be happy to service you. They tend to be older (average mid-late 30's), but many are still hot and will give good service. Damage is 100 k won. BBFS is on the table, though some might not let you on your first visit.

You'll have much better luck at Miari. These days virtually all the mamasans call out to me (didn't always happen in the past), and they have a range of women from late 20's to women well into their 50's LOL. Mostly 5-7's, with the occasional and very rare 8. Don't be afraid to be picky, and don't accept the first girl that is chosen for you (you are usually allowed to choose from a lineup). The houses will have an average of 3-5 girls, on some busy weekends some will have as many as 10. Damage is around the 80-90 k region. BBFS is mostly available.

Some interesting Euros advertising on MR: anyone have experience with Tattoo Lune? Looks hot with all her ink. And a French (girl Erin?

I've had good experience with other Euro girls on MR (ex Luna) so I'm opting for easy outcalls to save me going out (Yeah, I'm lazy). If seniors have outcall reccs, they're much appreciated!

[QUOTE=Optional;2220629]I've been to a bunch of Gangnam Anmas so far, including Fish, Ace, and Donut. My experience has been very mixed. Of my 4 trips, only once resulted in an actual hot young girl. The other ones were clearly leftovers that Korean clients did not want. So I'm curious. Do the RLDs, such as Cheon-Ho, have better looking and younger girls than the Anmas? Or is it about the same? If the quality is higher in the RLDs, I might go check one out this weekend. Any advice would be appreciated![/QUOTE]What Rain said is all spot on. Also, you have to be warned that the accommodations in Cheonho are pretty ghetto compared to Gangnam anmas. The room is tiny, the bed is tiny and the showers are. Well not is the best of shape. It's not filthy in any way but the buildings and rooms are run down. Also you should be aware that Cheonho is like fast food. Unless you are a repeat customer and the girl knows / likes you, expect zero GFE. Cheonho girls are also notorious for super strict clock watching. Especially during prime time, the girl wants to get back downstairs and land another guy as soon as possible.

However there is a game that I play with some of the guys. "Iron Man Triathlon" or "The Triple Crown" There is a street of bars just down the road from Cheonho. Drink a few pints of beer there and take a shot. Head to Cheonho and bang one girl. Go back down the street to the bar area and drink a few more pints of beer and another shot. Go back and bang another girl. Head back to the bar and drink a final few pints and take one last shot. Trek back to Cheonho and bang a third girl.

Fun times.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2220468]You mean for an hour with mechanical service and a clock watcher with 20 min or so of ACTUAL fun?? LOL no thanks.[/QUOTE]I have to agree. I used to visit anmas 3-4 times a month at $200+ per visit. I was stupid. There is a lot more fun to be had with a $250 round trip ticket to Thailand or The Philippines with girls that do not have a stuck up, princess complexes.

I've been in Korea for over 20 years and anmas have closed down left and right. Travel to Bangkok or Manila and you'll see that a lot of Korean men are visiting. It appears that even the Koreans are learning that the prices in Seoul and quality of services are lame and ridiculous.

I fully endorse and recommend Bunny, a Thai lady in Korea only for a couple of weeks at a time. This is her second trip this year and she might be here again next month. You'll find her on MR under the name Bunny. She is in her early 30's, beautiful tan skin, not thin like a stick, and she enjoys what she does. The price is right, too.

She does outcall only, and is not a clock watcher. A real sweet girl, so treat her nice. I hope she comes again and again.

[QUOTE=SmashPuss;2218619]Thanks for the advice. Macau sounds like a better idea, it looks like $200-300 can get you pretty far in terms of service at saunas. I still might spend some time in Korea just to eat. I don't really want to go to Bangkok because I don't want to be asked, "Why did you go to Bangkok for only 3 days?" kind of thing.[/QUOTE]I really don't recommend Macau anymore. It's ridiculously expensive. The big saunas are now 400 usd use for an hour with a girl. Some want more. Those aren't even model level girls but normal level. Familiar noble went up to almost 500 usd for an hour! Darling is the best deal in Macau now at about 300 usd for 75 minutes but it's not a full service sauna like the big ones.

If you're already in Korea better to stay there and explore other cities like Pusan. I had a lot of fun with three of their rld.

FYI, I pass for Korean.

Any experienced mongerers have thoughts on this place? "Kisstar" in Suwon. I'm hoping its either a kiss bang or lip cafe of sorts. Looking for some other opinions before checking it out.

[QUOTE=Mufasa79;2228634]Any experienced mongerers have thoughts on this place? "Kisstar" in Suwon. I'm hoping its either a kiss bang or lip cafe of sorts. Looking for some other opinions before checking it out.[/QUOTE]Check it out and write a report.

[QUOTE=Mufasa79;2228634]Any experienced mongerers have thoughts on this place? "Kisstar" in Suwon. I'm hoping its either a kiss bang or lip cafe of sorts. Looking for some other opinions before checking it out.[/QUOTE]Uhmmmm. Can you speak Korean? Do you look like a local? Korea is a xenophobic place you know.

I'm a newbie to the South Korea forum. After 2 trips to Thailand I wanted to do a 30 day tour of multiple places. 3 days or so at each. SK, Japan, Macau, Bali, Philippines, Burma, Bangladesh and NYE in Thailand. Korea and Japan was 2 places I was really looking forward to.

I've read back a few years and kind of feel disappointed. I'm a 30 year old westerner that speaks not a lick of Korean. Being younger I was looking for lady in the 18-22 range. Should probably cross SK off the list? Unfortunately, Japan no vaginal play has me ready to skip northern Asia altogether. The prices someone just posted about Macau is crazy too. Any advice would be appreciated. Pm is fine too.

Hello,

I'm planning to visit Seoul in a couple of weeks with some college friends. A couple of us have expressed interest in the Seoul P4P scene. We're white guys in our early 30's from the US. Korean knowledge ranges from none to very little (myself). Not much mongering experience along us, but I have been to a couple of pink salons (BJ bars) and a soap land in Tokyo before.

I've looked through the threads here and done some research elsewhere on the web. I also have an Adal account. I have a couple of questions that I'd love some up-to-date advice on.

1) We're staying within walking distance of Itaewon Station and Hooker Hill. Is there still a scene on the hill? If so, what're prices like these days?

2) Gangnam anmas? I realize the recent posts have been how they're overpriced, but I enjoyed my one soap land visit in Japan and have heard that anmas are a bit similar. Is Ace still a reliable choice for foreigners? And what rates are they charging us these days? And is MVP-VIP still in business and foreigner friendly? Prices? Finally, is mid morning too early to visit these places? The Ace listing on Adal shows more girls in the evening, so is that usually the best time to visit?

3) RLDs? Some recent posts have indicated that Cheonho and Miari Texas are still going strong, with going rates at around 100 k won in Cheonho be & see and a bit less in Miari. I assume these are better in the evening? Any day action at all in either?

4) Ordering girls by phone from a love motel? One of my Korean friends has mentioned ordering girls to a love motel and might even be willing to call for me. Anyone done this? What's the quality of girls / service like? And prices?

Thanks in advance for any help or advice you're willing to provide.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2231695] Japan no vaginal play has me ready to skip northern Asia altogether. [/QUOTE]Just go to the Soaplands or Osaka's red light districts like Tobita Shinchi and you will have a "vaginal play". But it's not cheap.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2232010]Just go to the Soaplands or Osaka's red light districts like Tobita Shinchi and you will have a "vaginal play". But it's not cheap.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip! Hadn't made it that far down on the forum. Was too focused on going back far on the first 5 more active threads. Exactly what I was looking for. Seishun street here I come!

Hi,

I am coming to Seoul (Gangnam) for a week, first time in Asia. European white, English only.

I have read few pages and sites and it seems my options in Gangnam are:

1. Anmas. Ace, Belle, Fish, or which are the best for BBBJ? Price?

2. Lip cafes / karaoke bars / barber poles places. Since I do not speak Koren, are there any available?

3. Any other option how to get good BJ from a Korean hottie in 20's?

I would really appreciate your help regardless that I have just registered. I have read few pages and I will provide a report after and start using this forum regularly.

Does anyone know if Yeoungdeungpo RLD has showers or not? I rarely see any posts for that RLD. Cheonho does. ID prefer showering if possible rather than wipes.

Hi,

On a business trip staying near samseoung.

Any contacts to massage places or Anmas or independent freelancers would be great.

In Seoul for next 2 weeks. Requesting seniors from forum to help out.

Just dropped my filipina off at the airport.

20 yr old, uni student, pharmacist in the making. She arrived on Thursday evening, 3. 5 days later she's on her way back to Manila with her snatch and ass full of my cum. Plus plenty of 1+1 goods from cosmetics stores and the lot, she plans to sell them to her classmates back home for a profit (her money, not mine).

Total cost to me: 300 k won (flight tickets) and about an extra 100 k on food and fuel.

Tell me again why paying the same for one pop with a massage republic provider is a reasonable idea?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2233684]Just dropped my filipina off at the airport.

20 yr old, uni student, pharmacist in the making. She arrived on Thursday evening, 3. 5 days later she's on her way back to Manila with her snatch and ass full of my cum. Plus plenty of 1+1 goods from cosmetics stores and the lot, she plans to sell them to her classmates back home for a profit (her money, not mine).

Total cost to me: 300 k won (flight tickets) and about an extra 100 k on food and fuel.

Tell me again why paying the same for one pop with a massage republic provider is a reasonable idea?[/QUOTE]I'm very interested in how you did that. Did you have to first visit Manila or did you find her on a website?

[QUOTE=Venturism;2233815]I'm very interested in how you did that. Did you have to first visit Manila or did you fingd her on a website?[/QUOTE]I visit the Philippines every 2-4 months. I get to meet beautiful new university students every trip, and I have a roster of star performers from my previous trips I hook up with. Obviously all P4 P (look up the Philippines section of this site for more info).

I tend to go for passport-ready girls (ones who already have their passports), but this latest one didn't have her passport when we first met in January in Manila. With her being a wiling 3-holer, I encouraged her to get her passport, which she finally completed in July (takes a good while for Filipinos to get their passports, lots of hoops to jump through). After that, she applied for her tourist visa to Korea, which was granted without a hitch, probably because her family had the funds to support her travel.

Between January and now, this is the 3rd filipina that has visited Korea for the purpose of draining my cock, in addition to my visits to the Philippines. On average they stay for about 5 days to a week. Takes a lot of patience and preparation, but ultimately in the end you're more than repaid multiple times over.

Thanks for posters' info. In town for short visit so limited options. Tried Ace Anma. I am non Korean looking if that matters.

Price 280 K.

1 pop. 1 hour (sort of).

Assisted shower before / after.

BBBJ / FS.

No GFE.

No actual massage.

Nice looking Korean girl, a bit overweight.

A nice time.

Repeat--certainly not at that level of service for price.

[QUOTE=Marwar58;2234785]Thanks for posters' info. In town for short visit so limited options. Tried Ace Anma. I am non Korean looking if that matters.

Price 280 K.

1 pop. 1 hour (sort of).

Assisted shower before / after.

BBBJ / FS.

No GFE.

No actual massage.

Nice looking Korean girl, a bit overweight.

A nice time.

Repeat--certainly not at that level of service for price.[/QUOTE]1 more for the home team. Sigh.

Rainmania. Your thoughts? Hehe.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2234896]1 more for the home team. Sigh.

Rainmania. Your thoughts? Hehe.[/QUOTE]Sadly that is par for the course. Overpriced, but still cheaper than MR LOL.

Did OP specifically ask for the blind massage on his way out?

Now we can see why korean guys are flooding SE Asia in droves. Unfortunately they're taking their room salon / anma practices with them, complete with discouraging the local women from fraternising with westerners.

This was my second attempt at Fish, first successful time. The previous time I went into the place, the lady asked me where I was from. I told her america she seemed hesitate so I walked away. This time after a long vacation I decided to try the relay instead of partaking with one shot. I been to other places, and when I told them I was Korean American they of coursed allowed me in, but charged me the foreign price. I need to learn the language, anyways after speaking with the guy he gave me the price of 240,000 won. I read in another post that someone was charged 230,000 so guess that not bad. The girls behind the counter laughed when I was describing the girl I wanted, guess they know English. It's a sauna place where you go downstairs, give a key and changed into a robe after showing. Made mistakes so guess they knew I was new such as walking in with my street shoes before I changed into the sandals. Rookie mistake, and grabbing a cup of water that was an ash tray by mistake. Anyways the guy called my number, and 3 other dudes came up the elevator with me. As other guys said is a night club theme where based on your number mama will assign you a girl. There first shot action happened. Basically it was a semi orgy with the girls making out with the other guys, and then fucking them with condom. So if you are gun shy this might not be the place for you. Unfortunately I think I was that night so I didn't finish. The same girl then took me to another floor, where we had a one on one session. Talked a little then she showered me, a little massage with oil, as she rubbed her body on me, and then would stroke junior while I was still laying on my stomach, turn over some more. BBBJ, condom, CG, DFK, was so ready that I finished in MISH with plenty of time left so we talked until the phone ran, then guy came sent me to the elevator, pressed the button and went back downstairs to change. Really like the place over Start. Start had the girls changed but sometimes you don't know who you get. Not sure if next time I would get a different girl but this round I really liked my girl. However, I can see if you don't then who knows maybe you can ask for a change. Will repeat again.

[QUOTE=Kagasain;2236320]This was my second attempt at Fish, first successful time. The previous time I went into the place, the lady asked me where I was from. I told her america she seemed hesitate so I walked away. This time after a long vacation I decided to try the relay instead of partaking with one shot. I been to other places, and when I told them I was Korean American they of coursed allowed me in, but charged me the foreign price. I need to learn the language, anyways after speaking with the guy he gave me the price of 240,000 won. I read in another post that someone was charged 230,000 so guess that not bad. The girls behind the counter laughed when I was describing the girl I wanted, guess they know English. It's a sauna place where you go downstairs, give a key and changed into a robe after showing. Made mistakes so guess they knew I was new such as walking in with my street shoes before I changed into the sandals. Rookie mistake, and grabbing a cup of water that was an ash tray by mistake. Anyways the guy called my number, and 3 other dudes came up the elevator with me. As other guys said is a night club theme where based on your number mama will assign you a girl. There first shot action happened. Basically it was a semi orgy with the girls making out with the other guys, and then fucking them with condom. So if you are gun shy this might not be the place for you. Unfortunately I think I was that night so I didn't finish. The same girl then took me to another floor, where we had a one on one session. Talked a little then she showered me, a little massage with oil, as she rubbed her body on me, and then would stroke junior while I was still laying on my stomach, turn over some more. BBBJ, condom, CG, DFK, was so ready that I finished in MISH with plenty of time left so we talked until the phone ran, then guy came sent me to the elevator, pressed the button and went back downstairs to change. Really like the place over Start. Start had the girls changed but sometimes you don't know who you get. Not sure if next time I would get a different girl but this round I really liked my girl. However, I can see if you don't then who knows maybe you can ask for a change. Will repeat again.[/QUOTE]Good report Kagasain.

Looking forward to your future adventures.

Anyone down for hardcore style full salon in gangnam tomorrow? (Friday).

I'm Korean American my Korean is pretty good so no issues getting in.

Hmu.

Forgot to add that they were all wearing those white Korean sailor or police officer uniforms. One of them even had the hat.

[QUOTE=StackCats00;2237539]Anyone down for hardcore style full salon in gangnam tomorrow? (Friday).

I'm Korean American my Korean is pretty good so no issues getting in.

Hmu.[/QUOTE]And on Saturday? I will be in Seoul.

[QUOTE=Patrack10;2237885]And on Saturday? I will be in Seoul.[/QUOTE]I will be in Seoul all next week and would totally appreciate an "in". I work with many Koreans, but hesitate to ask them as I want to keep it professional. I am a white American guy, professional, clean cut. My nights after 7 pm will be free. For the help I would be very willing to hook you up with some cash for your own fun. I'll have a Korean phone number while in Seoul.

I would buy a membership to PM you guys but my CC is from the US. Hmmmm.

[QUOTE=StackCats00;2238110]I would buy a membership to PM you guys but my CC is from the US. Hmmmm.[/QUOTE]My CC is US also. We could meet in a specific hotel lobby or other place.

Was in Seoul earlier this month and paid a visit to the hill on a Sunday night after striking out at a couple of civvy club / bars. I walked up the hill and I saw an early to mid 40's MILF in a blue dress. She was slim with a flat stomach and a nice rack. We negotiated down to 80 k and she started with a spirited CBJ. She couldn't take k9 but took mish well and gave a good reverse CG. I saw a few lookers in other bars but most were about average. The hill will do the trick if your not a picky guy. Just my .02.

Has anyone been with Veeda? She's been on Massage Republic, City of Love, and previously Backpage when it existed. She always claims to be 'Canadian-Laos mix" and that English is her first language, but that is BS.

I can't tell whether she is a Thai girl with a boob job or a Thai boy-girl postop. She's advrtised in Korea for over a year. Sometimes I think about trying her out but then I can't find any reviews so I back off.

Anyone?

Hi,

I will be visiting Seoul in 2 weeks during a week-end.

I would like to have good advises for good experiences.

Thanks.

Hey ISG,

Been lurking on here for the past year or so. Decided to finally contribute. So, on my way home from work, I noticed a big sign saying "Seoul Anma" in Hangul. (Cross the street outside of exit 6 of Guro Digital Complex Stn line 2) it's on the right side of Lotteria, you can't miss it. I've been to Cheonho, 588, and the Hill. But, I've never made it into an anma before. Took the elevator to the 5th floor, signs clearly guiding you along the way. Upon entering, greeted by the mamasan and some male staff. I'm gyopo, but speak very little Korean. I didn't understand everything that was being said, but I think I was mistaken for a native Korean at first. I was initially quoted 190 k, but was then asked for 210 k when she realized how bad my Korean was LOL. I was pissed, but decided to pay. Was told it would include 1 HR with an agassi followed by a 40 minute massage from an ajumma. Showered and was soon asked what type of girl I wanted. I told the man I wanted a young girl with a pretty face. 5 minutes or so later, I'm brought upstairs and led to a hallway with the girls rooms. I'm greeted by a girl who looked to be in her mid to late 20's. Very thin, pale skin, light brown dyed hair, decent face. Tight white dress. Not super sexy, but certainly nothing to complain about. I explained that I don't speak Korean well and we made small talk over a cup of water and a cigarette. This lasted no more than 5 minutes. She then told me to strip down and move to the shower section of the room. She stripped down too and showed off a nice little body. Small tits and tiny nipples, little round ass, and a trimmed Bush. She washed me down mechanically and had me lay on my stomach. The massage gel felt great as she covered my back, ass, and legs. She then oiled up her tits and stomach before sliding her body from my shoulders down to my calves, and back up again. Soon, I felt a different sensation on my legs and looked back to see her tonging my legs rapidly. Her eyes met mine and she slowly slid her tongue up to my balls and taint. She began the rimming and kept her eyes locked with mine. This was my first time getting rimmed and I loved it! She began reaching under to play with my balls and shaft. At this point, I'm on all fours, rock hard. She tongues my ass some more while jerking me off before having me turn over. She repeated the body slide on my front side, and grinded her bare pussy on my balls and up my shaft. She made her way down for a BBBJ, spending plenty of time licking my balls and taint. I shoved her head back down to my ass and she didn't miss a beat. She held my legs up in the air and went to town. Time to wash off the oil and I'm honestly light headed LOL. Make our way to the bedroom after drying off. Little soft massage and BBBJ before she puts the condom on with her mouth. She gets on top for cowgirl before I flip her over for missionary. Standing mish. Standing doggy. Doggy. Loved looking in the mirror next to the bed! While in doggy, the phone rang. She ignored it, but told me I needed to finish. I pushed her down on her stomach and pounded away. She arched her little ass up a little bit and I pulled on her hair as I let myself cum inside her. I collapsed on top of her, still inside. We caught our breath for a minute like that before cleaning up. She put the condom in aluminum foil! Weird. Then picked up the phone and let them know the deed was done. Was escorted downstairs by a different guy. Had to ask for a massage (was shown to the dressing room first). Massage from blind ajumma was good and unrushed. Spent a good HR and 50 minutes there. All in all, the girl I got had a good attitude and was cute. Pissed about the foreigner tax, but might go back here.

Sorry for the long review. Looking forward to sharing more with you guys.

[QUOTE=ThirdEy3;2242189]Hey ISG,

Been lurking on here for the past year or so. Decided to finally contribute. So, on my way home from work, I noticed a big sign saying "Seoul Anma" in Hangul. (Cross the street outside of exit 6 of Guro Digital Complex Stn line 2) it's on the right side of Lotteria, you can't miss it. I've been to Cheonho, 588, and the Hill. But, I've never made it into an anma before. Took the elevator to the 5th floor, signs clearly guiding you along the way. Upon entering, greeted by the mamasan and some male staff. I'm gyopo, but speak very little Korean. I didn't understand everything that was being said, but I think I was mistaken for a native Korean at first. I was initially quoted 190 k, but was then asked for 210 k when she realized how bad my Korean was LOL. I was pissed, but decided to pay. Was told it would include 1 HR with an agassi followed by a 40 minute massage from an ajumma..[/QUOTE]They ask about your girl preferences, but normally it does not work. They just ask and that's all, but if you want to have a more beautiful girl then you can reject the first girl then they will take you to more beautiful girl. Next time try.

Tonight I met Joo A.

[URL]https://south-korea.topescortbabes.com/fr/mobile/escorts/joo-a_384570[/URL]

In summary she is extremely cute, but has a bad attitude. Key points were:

- She was about an hour late.

- She has a slim, tight body, with soft skin and a nice shaved pussy.

- Sex was good initially, however she seemed to lose enthusiasm over time, eventually encouraging me to finish quickly as she seemed to want to get to her next client. This was bad considering it was only 45 minutes into an hour booking.

I went to VIP after a room salon, and after drinking a bottle of rice wine so I don't really blame the girl. The price is still 120 won but I thought last time I was there they took credit cards, that was over a year ago so I don't recall but they said they don't. The manager escorted me to a small room and told me to take a shower and change into the pair of shorts on the bed. The shower was small but private. Waited for a while I could hear the other guys and girls having fun, finally after what seemed like forever I rung the bell not sure if the girl would had shown up if I didn't. Last time the girl was in the room with me. The girl this time was Asian looking but didn't say anything she just laid on the bed smile and started to kiss my nipples and stroke junior until she pulled the shorts off, some kissing on the other side of my chest, down my legs and junior with some sucking on the balls, she rubbed under the ass area but no rimming and didn't insert a finger thank god. After the BJ, on came the condom and she rode me until she told me to switch I could feel the lube dripping put of her at least I hoped. Did her mish was looking to see anything suspicious but it just seemed she used a lot of lube. Either cause I wasn't feeling, too much lube, drunk or a combo junior couldn't stay hard so ended with a hand job while she rubbed her pussy in mish. Not bad for the price and would repeat sometimes but there other place to explore hopefully with the same price, she said she was Chinese.

Was walking around gangnam when a guy asked me if I wanted to go to a karaoke room and some sex in Korean, but awhile he started speaking English when he realized my Korean was bad. Asked him how much it was he told me 330 won figured that wasn't bad. He led me to a nearby place the place was called glam not sure if you need a guide ot can go in by yourself it had some people standing by. Anyways he took me upstairs where I did the mirror thing there were about 6 girls, I saw others but guessing that you have to be Korean speaking to get all the girls. Picked put the one I liked, we did some karaoke, spoke with a translation and at one point she gave me a BJ but blue balled me, finally went to the upstairs for sex, took a shower alone, all position condom, BBBJ, and guess cause she blue balled me I pounded the crap out of her. You are excepted to tip the servers, guy in the room brought stuff twice, and then the hotel staff so about 370 spent not bad I think, last time I went to a room salon it was like 500.

Had a trip to Seoul for business. Not looking forward to it. Seems Seoul is the hardest place for Foreigner unless you look Korean.

Tried Escorts699 or 699 Escort. Girl was hot but service was rushed and she just tried to get in and get out in 30 minutes even though promised an hour. 250 k. Not Worth it.

Found a girl on Massage Republic who actually advertised she's 36. Connected on WeChat. She sent a photo. Everything in my gut told me she was lying but I couldn't resist. She was in fact the woman in the photo. Body was a 9 face was a 6. She's good at what she does. 250 k unrushed 1 pop. Very affectionate and kind and good provider.

Got a little deep into ADAL7 and looking for Hyugetels but not much luck. Just too difficult without language skills.

The map that is posted between pages 23-28 several times is totally worth checking out. The key with that map is to look at the listing. The map was made by someone from HongKong so if you can read some Chinese you can see costs and services and open / close time. More importantly on the map listing they update it with Links that are either bit. Ly or [URL]*******.com[/URL] and they lead to a website that is HongKong based. Click on the links and let Google translate for you. I checked the dates to see which places had the most recent reports and then went out from there.

Place #1 - Donut (on the map) but now called World. It's not difficult to find but upon entering I discussed services based on report from the HK guys. They were only offering 1 pop for 250 k. That was totally different from the reports and was no better than FISH or other places. The reason I leaned towards donut is that the reviews on HK were off the hook. I'm wondering now if they were guys just having a laugh or if they were real. They were talking about the place being similar to a FKK club in Germany where girls basically attack you with one goal and one goal only. To get you to pop as fast as possible. Sounded interesting and worth having a try. Nothing like that was on tap so I walked away.

I tried 7 spa because it had consistent reviews and the price was 120 k and I wasn't in the mood to get killed on price for a lackluster experience. 7 Spa is easy to find, it's clean and it's decent. Walked in and paid 120 k. Went into locker room and had a quick wash and a soak. Went into a room and a 40-50 something still halfway decent looking lady, gave me a warm up massage. She does a decent massage and ends with some prostate massage. Then she leaves after 30 minutes and a few minutes later a 7,8/10 walks in smiling and cheerful. She immediately strips and has a great body. She hops up on the table and provides some amazing nipple play, catbath and then start BBBJ. She deep throats really well and then asks if I want 69.69 isn't real because she said only look, no touch, no kiss. It was fine. She was good at her trade and I had no problem popping. As I was popping with her HJ she quickly put me in her mouth and CIM. Afterwards she get's dressed, asks if the service was good and give me a hug and a nice kiss. Then she escorts me to the door to the Locker Room smiles and whacks my butt and walks away. It was all done in 45 minutes and I was surprised by her attitude. She was really happy and smiley and seemed to enjoy what she does.

All in all I took a couple for the team and had two good experiences and one bad. The thing I don't like about Korea is what others have said. It's affluent and the providers aren't desperate for money. Since, as foreigners we are relegated to a very small segment of what's available in Korea for the sex trade the providers have all decided to gouge us. Since other countries are mostly sexually repressed when businessmen come here for business trips they pay what they have to for fun. I'll stick with China, Vietnam and Thailand for great service at a great cost. I didn't find Korean women so much more attractive that it's worth paying as much as 5 times the going rate.

I tried Busan on a previous trip and experience was similar to Seoul. Spent more than I wanted for less than I got.

Get that map if you are visiting for a short time. Also check out the 36 yr old on Massage Republic. Add her wechat and trust her. She's good.

Wow, they must be getting desperate. The only way I went into room salons was as a guest of someone. The places I've been to are unmarked and nobody could come off the street. Partially it was exclusivity, but also it was safety. There have been a number of government crackdowns.

QUOTE=Kagasain;2246874 Was walking around gangnam when a guy asked me if I wanted to go to a karaoke room and some sex in Korean, but awhile he started speaking English when he realized my Korean was bad. Asked him how much it was he told me 330 won figured that wasn't bad. He led me to a nearby place the place was called glam not sure if you need a guide ot can go in by yourself it had some people standing by. Anyways he took me upstairs where I did the mirror thing there were about 6 girls, I saw others but guessing that you have to be Korean speaking to get all the girls. Picked put the one I liked, we did some karaoke, spoke with a translation and at one point she gave me a BJ but blue balled me, finally went to the upstairs for sex, took a shower alone, all position condom, BBBJ, and guess cause she blue balled me I pounded the crap out of her. You are excepted to tip the servers, guy in the room brought stuff twice, and then the hotel staff so about 370 spent not bad I think, last time I went to a room salon it was like 500.

[QUOTE=ShenyangKnows;2248949]Had a trip to Seoul for business. Not looking forward to it. Seems Seoul is the hardest place for Foreigner unless you look Korean.

Tried Escorts699 or 699 Escort. Girl was hot but service was rushed and she just tried to get in and get out in 30 minutes even though promised an hour. 250 k. Not Worth it.[/QUOTE]Solid report. Thanks for the update. Glad to know I'm not missing anything with the Korean scene even though I'm still here LOL.

If you don't mind women in their early 30's to early 40's, miari is still alive and kicking (and still the same 80-90 k won). I was there the other night. My usual place had a new girl, mid 30's, size 6 or 8, wide shoulders, athletic body and very well rounded 'be-cups'. Did the whole wet wipes routine on my cock, followed by a BJ-mouthwash-BJ (also felt like the wet wipes had been dipped in mouthwash) Gave me a legit cat bath for like 10 minutes (up and down twice), followed by a decent full BJ.

She hopped on top, started off slowly to get her rhythm but made sure to slide the full length of my cock in and out with each thrust, woman knew how to ride. This went on for about 10 minutes, I wasn't even interested in changing position because it felt so good, like I was having sex for the first time all over again. She sped up, but not the aggressive pumping you see in pornos, but rather a rhythm that wouldn't tire her out quickly but still allowed her to use some of her muscle sets.

In all she rode me for about 20 minutes before I busted a creampie in her, the most intense orgasm I've had in a long time. She followed this with a brief BJ to suction out any remaining cum from my shaft (she really did suck it senseless for about 2-3 insane minutes) before going off to clean herself. Gave her a 20 k tip (I usually give 10 for good performers) and went on my way out.

All in all 10/10 experience with an above average-looking woman. The day this establishment closes will probably bring a tear to my eye LOL.

It was closer to my hotel than Miri but still took me a good 40+minutes, Miri would had been over an hour. Place is dead, there was constructions everywhere, and one part that was still lit maybe 4 rooms, only 2 of them had girls in there but they were on the older side. Might have been cheap since they seem to be the last survivors.

This place is near Jini Spa at Gangnam. Even though the sign said sport massage. It is a legit place. There are prices on the outside and inside. You go into a room, and then change into the throw away underwear and robe. Lady pretty much took them off me when she first got there so I thought maybe it was for display only but she cracked all of my tight muscles which I needed but nothing else. Maybe a few times there might be something on the side. Lowest price I think was 60,000 and the highest was like 160. Really needed it but was hoping for more. On the other hand outside I did see 2 barber poles so maybe another trip but I just don't like spending more money than I have to.

This lady is a traveler who is just in Seoul for a couple of months. She works out of an officetel in Hongdae, and posts ads on CL charging 30 k for 1/2 hour (tips optional) or 60 k for an hour (tips optional).

The photo is a fake, although she is still attractive. She is legit massage, though. She tries to be coy about it and not come out and say that until you've had a session and spent some money. No happy ending here. Just wanted to tell people to save their money, unless they are only interested in legit massage.

Are there still any Japanese-style Earwax cleaning places in Seoul? They were the rage 3 years ago, or so, according to the news.

Do they offer any special services? What are typical prices, please? Hoping for HJ or FJ, but also like the intimacy aspect.

Thanks.

Wanted to introduce myself.

Have been lurking in this forum on and off over the years. I have been in Korea for a very long time, Long enough to remember when Itaewon Hooker Hill was packed, and girls there cleared 6 million a month, easy. I became well-acquainted enough with a few of them, over the years, to spend time at their homes doing odd jobs (no kidding). I was once younger, more attractive, and available. I have since moved away from Korea, but I do travel in often, due to family. I married a very hot lady, and we have 2 kids now. Little coin for playing. When I am back, I go hunting for HJ. Not interested in much more than that. I am too cheap, and enjoy the art of the deal more than the act. Have also had my share of bouts with infections just from BJ's. Be careful!

Pickings are slim, these days.

I still wander onto The Hill sometimes, and often duck in and out of massage joints. But those are also going away as women age and police crack down. Was frequenting a nice "legit massage" place out East in Seoul, but she is now working a government-related job and is going legit-only.

I look at posts of people paying 250 k and up for the full monty, and my jaw drops open. I don't pay for HJ unless it's under 60 k (and that is too much -- she better be young and hot). I prefer (and still get) 40 k. Sex must be 100 k, or less. I don't try for that often, but I still can get it for 70 k to 100 k, when I do. You have to know how to be like Kenny Rogers to get those prices. Mostly that's on The Hill, although I was getting 30 k HJ's at a massage joint in Dongdaemun, until it closed.

Needless to say, I have never been to an Anma and paid foreigner prices they demand. Might have to branch out, though, and try other places. That is why I am here for info, and to share stories. No interest in dropping half a mill or more on a room salon, and never have.

Will try to help others here, when possible.

[QUOTE=CasualFunSeoul;2117693]Organize a boycott to bring prices down? Hahaha why'all are Fucking delusional. In a country where probably 70% of the native male population visit prostitutes you think any one is going to give 2 shits if even the entire foreign population stopped using their services? We make like 1% of their market. Anyway.

If you're using backpage, or another site, and paying more than 100,000 you're fucked. Pun intended! Ripped off! Korea is s still the Mecca of reasonable priced Pussy if you know where to look.

3 options I will advice: 1 & 2 are okay. 3 is the best by far.

1) VIP Anma near Gangnam station. 120,000 one shot. Girls are usually Mongolian, Kazakhstan, Chinese, little older, not so hot, but do a good job.

2) Street perpendicular to hooker hill. Top of hill across from the foreign market. It's called Nymph. I forget the chicks name. Face is 90% plastic. Body is incredible! Can bargain a BBBJ down to 70,000. FS 90 - 100. She's excellent![/QUOTE]I am interested in learning more about these kiss rooms. Do they allow you to jerk off in their presence? Kind of into that, actually. For 30 k? What is allowed in these kiss rooms?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DocInHeat;2249100]Wow, they must be getting desperate. The only way I went into room salons was as a guest of someone. The places I've been to are unmarked and nobody could come off the street. Partially it was exclusivity, but also it was safety. There have been a number of government crackdowns.[/QUOTE]Korean guys have discovered SE Asia and are flooding there in record numbers. Why pay 500 k for one pop in Gangnam when 500 k will get you a whole weekend of pops in SE Asia?

Room salons and K-bars have even opened in Pattaya, Bangkok, Manila and Angeles (to name a few). And yes, many cater to korean clientele, stupidly.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2250553]Are there still any Japanese-style Earwax cleaning places in Seoul? They were the rage 3 years ago, or so, according to the news.

Do they offer any special services? What are typical prices, please? Hoping for HJ or FJ, but also like the intimacy aspect.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is a place on the third floor of the building on the right here [URL]http://dmaps.kr/deye4[/URL] between Euljiro1 ga and Jonggak stations. Check it out and report back.

Other places seem not to show what they are on the outside. You need to call a number on a poster or a flyer to find the exact location.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2251438]There is a place on the third floor of the building on the right here [URL]http://dmaps.kr/deye4[/URL] between Euljiro1 ga and Jonggak stations. Check it out and report back.

Other places seem not to show what they are on the outside. You need to call a number on a poster or a flyer to find the exact location.[/QUOTE]Just dropped by tonight. Open, but no ladies working. Told me to come back in an hour. Cost on wall was 50 k for "basic service. " The door was kind of broken, and the place seemed like a bit of a dive. Will try again another day. There was just some guy behind the desk, inside.

Hate it when these dives have nobody working. Seems stupid. Almost like they have given up on making money, and don't make enough to employ anyone but a single old hag with missing teeth. From the look of the place, I don't have high hopes. Broken front door was a hint.

On the subject of privacy.

I have been perusing CL ads. I completely avoid "agencies" and such. Why are these shops using Kakao and direct phone links for contacts? It seems stupid, and I refuse to contact them where there is an electronic paper trail. Kakao is nothing but penetrated action-tracking government spyware, and I don't even activate it on my phone. Dumped it a year ago. I use Telegram, but that's it. No Line. No What'sApp. For e-mail I only trust protonmail and tutanota. Incidentally, those services are blocked entirely by Kakao (except Protonmail has a work-around). If something happens to one of these ladies, the first thing the police do is try to gain access to phone and app information to track what's been going on, and who they have been interacting with. If you use Telegram (send a username sans phone number), Protonmail, or Tutanota, there is no way to be tracked.

On another note, maybe you've seen all of the security cameras popping-up around. I know a young male Korean who worked with the cyber police. They now have software that interacts between cameras and phone signals to pinpoint users that are in / frequent an area, which can be accessed if something goes wrong. Do you want a log of your movements around "The Hill," for example? You may have noticed a big government camera has been put up right in the middle of Hooker Hill. They have face-tracking software and can figure you out, if the need arises. I have decided to stop even entering that hill unless it's from the top back side stairs, and then I wear a ballcap or a mask, etc.

Call me paranoid.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2251629]On the subject of privacy.

I have been perusing CL ads. I completely avoid "agencies" and such. Why are these shops using Kakao and direct phone links for contacts? It seems stupid, and I refuse to contact them where there is an electronic paper trail. Kakao is nothing but penetrated action-tracking government spyware, and I don't even activate it on my phone. Dumped it a year ago. I use Telegram, but that's it. No Line. No What'sApp. For e-mail I only trust protonmail and tutanota. Incidentally, those services are blocked entirely by Kakao (except Protonmail has a work-around). If something happens to one of these ladies, the first thing the police do is try to gain access to phone and app information to track what's been going on, and who they have been interacting with. If you use Telegram (send a username sans phone number), Protonmail, or Tutanota, there is no way to be tracked.

On another note, maybe you've seen all of the security cameras popping-up around. I know a young male Korean who worked with the cyber police. They now have software that interacts between cameras and phone signals to pinpoint users that are in / frequent an area, which can be accessed if something goes wrong. Do you want a log of your movements around "The Hill," for example? You may have noticed a big government camera has been put up right in the middle of Hooker Hill. They have face-tracking software and can figure you out, if the need arises. I have decided to stop even entering that hill unless it's from the top back side stairs, and then I wear a ballcap or a mask, etc.

Call me paranoid.[/QUOTE]Yeah a tad bit paranoid.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2251476]Just dropped by tonight. Open, but no ladies working. Told me to come back in an hour. Cost on wall was 50 k for "basic service. " The door was kind of broken, and the place seemed like a bit of a dive. Will try again another day. There was just some guy behind the desk, inside.

Hate it when these dives have nobody working. Seems stupid. Almost like they have given up on making money, and don't make enough to employ anyone but a single old hag with missing teeth. From the look of the place, I don't have high hopes. Broken front door was a hint.[/QUOTE]I searched in Korean "ear cleaning room" in Naver map and got the adult content warning and in Daum map some places did pop up. All the places looked shady in shady areas, IMO = extras. I guess it's still sort of a thing.

First time report from an experience in Seoul.

I responded to a Craigslist ad in the massage section for a "Professional massage by Autumn Lee", a business advertised as an officetel run by a 24 year-old "professional massage" woman near Seollung station. We set it all up on Kakao, and I showed up. Her rates on CL were like 110,000 for an hour massage, on up based on the ad. I was able to deal her down to 40,000 for what turned out to be an hour long tug and rub, with extras, but I'll continue with the story.

She told me to meet her at her business address, which is Kangnam Daechi-dong 891-23 in her ad (she gave a map). Once outside her building, I was instructed what to do next.

The massage was a trip. It was like she completely lit up when we met. I felt like even if this had not been a job for her, we would have clicked. To describe her, she is kind of built a bit like "Bean" from Hooker Hill. She introduced herself as Gaeul. A bit short with fat butt potential going on (she said she's lost weight). She studied in Australia, and speaks excellent English. I have since found her on FB. At first she asked me what I was interested in. I told her a back massage, with a little work on the front *wink wink*. She got the idea, and after a fairly decent massage, she asked me to turn over. She went to work after a tease, and got me good and hard. She was impressed, and actually asked if she could taste it! I am a bit of a safety guy, but she looked clean *laugh* so I let her play. After she licked the lolly for about 10 seconds, she shocked the bejeezuss out of me by dropping her entire head over my ck completely balls deep. I was in shock, because I am easily 9 inches and not bragging. After an "oh my GAWD" from me, and a "warn me" from her, she then started up and down, taking me in completely and out again entirely. Up and down up and down, faster faster faster. I barely lasted 20 seconds and blew my load. I barely warned her in time, and the load shot out and hit he square in the nose and lips! She grimaced, but then began to laugh, with my spud dangling from her nose. I tipped her an extra 30,000, which was all I had.

I will most certainly be back!

Well I tried the earwax cleaner posted earlier, and no love.

They open at 6 pm. I paid 50 k to the ajoshi at the door, and was ushered into a small, cold, dimly-lit room sporting an old heated mat. A cute early 20's girl showed up. She had tiny and cute bare feet, so I was a bit hopeful. She was wearing a fake cheap kimono. I told her she was cute, and she giggled and said, "Don't look at me."

She had me lay down with my head in her lap (cover between) and she proceeded to light some kind of straw on fire, and stick the non-burning end in my ear. It sizzled as it burned down. I asked her if this was going to hurt, and she said no, with a laugh. She spoke zero English. After burning a straw or two, and some light discussion with my poor Korean, she started digging lightly in my ear. Not much there to clean, she said. Next was the ear massage with lotion, which lasted all of 30 seconds. Meh. Turn over and do the other side.

Near the end, I asked ID there was any additional service, and she said no. I pressed, and told her I had cash. Just a giggle. She then asked something which made no sense, then laughed, told me to get up slowly and be careful with the stairs, and she whisked out the door.

Sad loss of 50 k.

[QUOTE=YoungAndSprung;2252213]First time report from an experience in Seoul.

I responded to a Craigslist ad in the massage section for a "Professional massage by Autumn Lee", a business advertised as an officetel run by a 24 year-old "professional massage" woman near Seollung station. We set it all up on Kakao, and I showed up. Her rates on CL were like 110,000 for an hour massage, on up based on the ad. I was able to deal her down to 40,000 for what turned out to be an hour long tug and rub, with extras, but I'll continue with the story.[/QUOTE]Didn't find anything advertised nearly like you described on CL Seoul. There is no massage section on CL Seoul for a while as far as I know, Am I missing something her guys?

OS.

[QUOTE=OralSea;2252646]Didn't find anything advertised nearly like you described on CL Seoul. There is no massage section on CL Seoul for a while as far as I know, Am I missing something her guys?

OS.[/QUOTE]I should have been more specific. The ads for massage providers last a few days or less. It only takes a few "prohibited" reports to wipe them out. One can imagine disgruntled women often report these ads. She will surely post again. Best to check often, and look again. CL also removes such ads, after the Backpage takedown.

There is a massage section under JOBS called salon / spa/ fitness. Her most recent post was under services/ Skilled trade. Sometimes providers post under services/ beauty.

She sometimes posts with the heading, "Certified Masseuse" and touts her time in Australia. Oh, she is certified, alright. But plan a few days out. She is busy. I added some pics ripped from her FB account. I would add her kakao, but not sure that is legal here?

[QUOTE=OralSea;2252646]Didn't find anything advertised nearly like you described on CL Seoul. There is no massage section on CL Seoul for a while as far as I know, Am I missing something her guys?

OS.[/QUOTE]Found her under Services / Skilled Trade. She sometimes is in Jobs / Spa and Fitness or Service / Beauty. She advertises as a Certified Masseuse.

[URL]https://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/sks/d/korean-masseuse-certified/6754189230.html[/URL]

Hi all! I'm a senior member with fairly prolific hobbying adventures but I have toned down significantly. One thing I still do enjoy is a great erotic massage building up to a happy ending (nothing more). I looked thru the Seoul section and it looks pretty dead. Is anything available at all? I get such a good service in this area in the US from Korean providers and I've been disappointed in my pursuits in Seoul. Any help would be much appreciated and I will report back any findings.

Hello, Thai Therapy!

Was wondering if anyone has any experience with this Thai massage lady? She used to have a few girls, and was a bit more outgoing with what she advertised. Craigslist started deleting ads that sounded sexual in nature, so she's toned down her ads quite a bit.

Anyone enjoyed her services?

Usually found on CL under Jobs / Salon / Spa / Fitness.

[URL]https://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/spa/d/this-is-thai-massage-and-have/6754232016.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jayf1970;2253175]Hi all! I'm a senior member with fairly prolific hobbying adventures but I have toned down significantly. One thing I still do enjoy is a great erotic massage building up to a happy ending (nothing more). I looked thru the Seoul section and it looks pretty dead. Is anything available at all? I get such a good service in this area in the US from Korean providers and I've been disappointed in my pursuits in Seoul. Any help would be much appreciated and I will report back any findings.[/QUOTE]If you don't mind a lady in her 40's, try the Hyewha rotary, near Hyewha station. There is a massage shop called Chanel on the 2nd floor. Have seen her several times.

Another nice lady I highly recommend. She is not Korean. I believe she is Uzbek. She will travel, or she has her own officetell / home biz.

Nice massage. Around 100 k and up. Used to offer a 50 k target massage, but I see that is no longer on her site. I think she is maybe 30? Just a guess. Speaks English. Highly intelligent.

[URL]http://seoul-massage.kr/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jayf1970;2253175]Hi all! I'm a senior member with fairly prolific hobbying adventures but I have toned down significantly. One thing I still do enjoy is a great erotic massage building up to a happy ending (nothing more). I looked thru the Seoul section and it looks pretty dead. Is anything available at all? I get such a good service in this area in the US from Korean providers and I've been disappointed in my pursuits in Seoul. Any help would be much appreciated and I will report back any findings.[/QUOTE]Found another place, for those who don't mind a woman in early 50's.

Green Massage, just outside of Dongdaemun subway station exit 4 and 5. Look for the barber pole, and stairs to the basement directly between the exits on the same side of the street (avoid the scary hag on the other side of the street, unless you want to lose your lunch).

As for Green.

I normally turn around and walk right out when I see someone this age, but she looked like a 10-year older version of a coworker I have lusted after for a long time. I tried to negotiate, and she wanted 100 k for a typical massage, probably lasting 30 min or more. I just wanted a quick / cheap HJ, and was able to bargain her down to 60 k, but that's too steep. I was shooting for 40 k, and I will only go 50 k if the woman is a lot younger and at least above a 6.

There used to be a former beauty queen (no kidding) who was in her 40's, and renting this massage place. It changed owners a year ago. I have noted that many rental agreements end in late October, and business owners move. Happens a few times per year like that. I only ducked back in there to see if owners had changed, again.

A trick I have learned, if you just want a quick HJ from a cheap / small barbers pole massage joint with no men working. Ask for "panty massage" after the drop their full massage price on you. Quote them 30 or 40 k for it, and when they say no, tell them it will just take 5 minutes. If they don't know what panty massage means (most can guess, after thinking about it) make a HJ motion with your hand. Sometimes they go for it, other times not. If you don't get your price, say you are sorry, thank them, and WALK. Sometimes they will change their mind. Doesn't hurt to tell them they are pretty, in Korean, and act like you are begging.

I was getting 40 k HJ's from the former beauty queen, until she moved to Jamsil area, and upped her prices significantly. Lost track of her since.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2253839]Another nice lady I highly recommend. She is not Korean. I believe she is Uzbek. She will travel, or she has her own officetell / home biz.

Nice massage. Around 100 k and up. Used to offer a 50 k target massage, but I see that is no longer on her site. I think she is maybe 30? Just a guess. Speaks English. Highly intelligent.

[URL]http://seoul-massage.kr/[/URL][/QUOTE]According to the massage license pictured on the website, it's a woman named Choi Na-ri and she's definitely Korean. Are you saying you saw someone else?

[QUOTE=YoungAndSprung;2252861]I should have been more specific. The ads for massage providers last a few days or less. It only takes a few "prohibited" reports to wipe them out. One can imagine disgruntled women often report these ads. She will surely post again. Best to check often, and look again. CL also removes such ads, after the Backpage takedown.

There is a massage section under JOBS called salon / spa/ fitness. Her most recent post was under services/ Skilled trade. Sometimes providers post under services/ beauty.

She sometimes posts with the heading, "Certified Masseuse" and touts her time in Australia. Oh, she is certified, alright. But plan a few days out. She is busy. I added some pics ripped from her FB account. I would add her kakao, but not sure that is legal here?[/QUOTE]Have you had a session with her? What exactly does she offer?

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2254116]According to the massage license pictured on the website, it's a woman named Choi Na-ri and she's definitely Korean. Are you saying you saw someone else?[/QUOTE]I know that's what her website says she is, but I could tell she's not local Korean. Not sure if she's Uzbek Korean, or Russian Korean, but she came to my hotel room, and the visual / audio cues were obvious to me. She's the one in the photos. I'm pretty sure she works 100% alone. Very nice lady. Highly recommended.

Yes, had one session with them. Good service.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2253542]Hello, Thai Therapy!

Was wondering if anyone has any experience with this Thai massage lady? She used to have a few girls, and was a bit more outgoing with what she advertised. Craigslist started deleting ads that sounded sexual in nature, so she's toned down her ads quite a bit.

Anyone enjoyed her services?

Usually found on CL under Jobs / Salon / Spa / Fitness.

[URL]https://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/spa/d/this-is-thai-massage-and-have/6754232016.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

Hi guys!

I want to try kiss bang and I read on a previous post someone telling we have to book it before how doing this? Also if I'll just walk-in, can I choose the girl with a picture or something or it will be a surprise?

[QUOTE=JohnnyAsia;2256211]Yes, had one session with them. Good service.[/QUOTE]I am not a fan of the "plastic surgery chin" look, so I have avoided the Thai massage lady.

The only lady I get on with that has an excess of plastic surgery is the Itaewon Hill lady who is across from the yogurt place, which was once Polly's Kettle, and may also be Faust bar. That lady is pretty, and rocks a nice body with a great shape. She wears a lot of bling jewelry and nail jewelry. She begs for more money too much, but you can set an affordable price, if you stick to your guns. I have her name somewhere.

I also noticed that Nadia moved to Ambrosia, and has lost weight (not that she was ever overly heavy). She is quite hot, so long as she showers. I think she has to regret all of those cheap tats. Protection a must.

Can some of you Seoul mongers post some pics of the Hill? Curious what the bars and shit look like now.

I'm assuming fish and donut are CFS? Wondering because I know most koreans prefer not using condoms when mongering?

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2258155]Can some of you Seoul mongers post some pics of the Hill? Curious what the bars and shit look like now.[/QUOTE]Will get some soon. It looks ragged and half abandoned. Literally. Several shops boarded-up. Most at the top are trans bars, now. The bars smell so gross, I can't go in them. The porky mamasan that has been around for years lets her dogs [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on the floor in the bars she rents. A few now reek of rotten [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. Rank as hell. ABC bar near old Pollya, and a few others near there, were burned down a few years ago. Replaced with a hotel.

Will get some pics for you soon.

Last time I had a session with them was a while ago. Could choose from a few girls. The one I chose didn't have plastic surgery (at all).

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2258090]I am not a fan of the "plastic surgery chin" look, so I have avoided the Thai massage lady.

The only lady I get on with that has an excess of plastic surgery is the Itaewon Hill lady who is across from the yogurt place, which was once Polly's Kettle, and may also be Faust bar. That lady is pretty, and rocks a nice body with a great shape. She wears a lot of bling jewelry and nail jewelry. She begs for more money too much, but you can set an affordable price, if you stick to your guns. I have her name somewhere.

I also noticed that Nadia moved to Ambrosia, and has lost weight (not that she was ever overly heavy). She is quite hot, so long as she showers. I think she has to regret all of those cheap tats. Protection a must.[/QUOTE]

Was in Seoul a few weeks ago on biz. A slow Sunday night and not many places open. I normally hit Cecile or one of the other juicy bars but all closed. Walking the Hill and saw an interesting chick at Tiffany's stick her head out of the door so decided to step inside and see what's what. I'm not normally a Hill monger but not many other choices on a cold Sunday night. Anyway, the Mama had a gal name Sunny or SunHee. Not sure which spelling, doesn't matter. At first glance, a cute but kind of plain looking girl. I was wondering what she is doing in this business. Did not look the part at all. Not at all dressed for action. Out of curiosity bought a warm up and get to know her drink. She spoke excellent English and played a bit in the shop. Anyway, negotiated with Mama for 3 hour session at my hotel with the option to extend if I liked what I saw. Sunny is a safety girl (which is probably good for everyone), CFS, but she takes it to the limit, BBBJ, Pussy rub, very juicy lady BTW. This girl has been well trained by someone. Full on GFE and a great body. Almost like a dancers body. A great session, actually a fun girl to be with. Extended and had a very nice time. As I mentioned, the Hill is not my normal hunting ground but this time it worked out well. Mama will ask for insane fees for her time but negotiate and she will come down.

[QUOTE=Pilot85;2261912]Was in Seoul a few weeks ago on biz. A slow Sunday night and not many places open. I normally hit Cecile or one of the other juicy bars but all closed. Walking the Hill and saw an interesting chick at Tiffany's stick her head out of the door so decided to step inside and see what's what. I'm not normally a Hill monger but not many other choices on a cold Sunday night. Anyway, the Mama had a gal name Sunny or SunHee. Not sure which spelling, doesn't matter. At first glance, a cute but kind of plain looking girl. I was wondering what she is doing in this business. Did not look the part at all. Not at all dressed for action. Out of curiosity bought a warm up and get to know her drink. She spoke excellent English and played a bit in the shop. Anyway, negotiated with Mama for 3 hour session at my hotel with the option to extend if I liked what I saw. Sunny is a safety girl (which is probably good for everyone), CFS, but she takes it to the limit, BBBJ, Pussy rub, very juicy lady BTW. This girl has been well trained by someone. Full on GFE and a great body. Almost like a dancers body. A great session, actually a fun girl to be with. Extended and had a very nice time. As I mentioned, the Hill is not my normal hunting ground but this time it worked out well. Mama will ask for insane fees for her time but negotiate and she will come down.[/QUOTE]I was just going to post that she's back. She hast lost weight, but looks hot either way. She is good, and yes- negotiate. Three hours plus is a long time, but you should be able to get a BBBJ with most ladies here for as low as 70 k to 80 k. Sunny will get kinky, and is a lot of fun. Generally, a very good girl. Not dirty or disgusting, like many on "the hill" are. The mamasan is a very good-hearted person. She often hires Chinese to work there, or at her other bar a bit down the hill (I forget the name- just up from YES bar). Not Chinese, but Sue is a pro, currently working days at the lower bar. Nice shorter lady (different from the tall lady who sometimes hangs there). Sue is a strong negotiator. If you are into talking, Sue is great lady to buy drinks for, and enjoyable to have deep discussions with. That's all I'm going to say, other than that she's very much worth seeing.

In terms of more "normal" ladies that you could meet in real life, and never know what their jobs are- these two are safe. A lot of the ladies who work / have worked on the hill are pretty gross. These two are worth multiple visits, and actually decent.

By the way, avoid the bitchy Filipina who was at the old Cabin / Candy bar, and is now working VIP. There are currently two Filipinas there, I think. One is very kind, with curly black locks. The other (from Cabin or Candy Bar, past the Int'l Food Store?) is a hot body, but is psycho, and best avoided. For the life of me, I don't know why the staff there took her on? They may regret it, if she is still there. I see that the gov't had a sticker on the door of the old Candy / Cabin bar where she was working (which may or may not mean it was busted for either cheating people, a health violation, or etc). I'm just sad Sooyeon left VIP, this year. She was insanely hot, and an incredible BJ. Very much missed.

Searched CL website and found a message service, contacted on kakao.

Quoted 70 k for Thai massage for an outcall to hotel per hour.

Came on time given and punctual.

Lady was pretty good looking, she was Thai from Bangkok.

Massage service was good and put in good strength.

HJ extra for 50 k, with roaming.

Overall service was good.

[QUOTE=Aksg2018;2265000]Searched CL website and found a message service, contacted on kakao.

Quoted 70 k for Thai massage for an outcall to hotel per hour.

Came on time given and punctual.

Lady was pretty good looking, she was Thai from Bangkok.

Massage service was good and put in good strength.

HJ extra for 50 k, with roaming.

Overall service was good.[/QUOTE]You had to pay a total of 120 k for a handjob, then?

Seriously?

Save your money. Give Leah a try at OneDaySpa. Saw she had another ad up on CL today, but it already got deleted. She's now offering prostate massage. Actually said it in her ad. I don't think you can be any more direct than that. You will leave happy and she offers an express massage for something like 70 k.

[URL]http://seoul-massage.kr/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/spainseoul/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2265766]You had to pay a total of 120 k for a handjob, then?

Seriously?

Save your money. Give Leah a try at OneDaySpa. Saw she had another ad up on CL today, but it already got deleted. She's now offering prostate massage. Actually said it in her ad. I don't think you can be any more direct than that. You will leave happy and she offers an express massage for something like 70 k.

[URL]http://seoul-massage.kr/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/spainseoul/[/URL][/QUOTE]I really appreciate, you make my day! Best wishes and Happy New Year.

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2266269]I really appreciate, you make my day! Best wishes and Happy New Year.[/QUOTE]Few people are professionals offering the utmost care, as do you.

I do hope you took it as a compliment. Happy massaging!

In less than a month I'll be in Seoul for a first time with a friend. We are both caucasian and not speak korean at all.
We will be there for sightseeing but of course we would like to the put our flag on Seoul. Looking for RLDs, no more than 100k won for BBBJ / CFS.

RTFF and find out Miari (Gireum Station exit10), Cheon-ho (Cheonho station exit3) and Hooker Hill (Itaewon exit3) are our best bet. Maybe Miari is the best of 3?
Question for the expert like RainMania, Optional, Lovinasia and others: what is the best time to visit these RLDs? We don't like to stay out till late. 6pm /7pm /8pm /9pm are a good time to visit?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2266852]In less than a month I'll be in Seoul for a first time with a friend. We are both caucasian and not speak korean at all.
We will be there for sightseeing but of course we would like to the put our flag on Seoul. Looking for RLDs, no more than 100k won for BBBJ / CFS.

RTFF and find out Miari (Gireum Station exit10), Cheon-ho (Cheonho station exit3) and Hooker Hill (Itaewon exit3) are our best bet. Maybe Miari is the best of 3?
Question for the expert like RainMania, Optional, Lovinasia and others: what is the best time to visit these RLDs? We don't like to stay out till late. 6pm /7pm /8pm /9pm are a good time to visit?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Cheonho will have the best looking women, but as non-Asians you'll be relegated to be and see row providers. Still good looking women there though. Very few to no English speakers, but the mamasans might know some rudimentary English.

Miari is probably where you'the get the best service. The women there would be slightly older than those at Cheonho. Don't be afraid to be picky here. The girls and mamasans are a lot more foreigner friendly than Cheonho, and the mamasans might be a bit handsy in getting you into their establishment. It's all fun and games though, so take it all with a smile and a pinch of salt. Like Cheonho the girls might not speak english, a few of the mamasans might know some English.

As you already know, hooker hill has the best English speakers. Probably the oldest women out of the theee RLDs, and a mixture of girls at extreme ends of the looks scale. Service there can be on par with the other two, but you also run the chance of getting scammed and getting [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor service. Make sure you let them know everything you want, and confirm one more time before handing the money over.

For the first 2, 6 pm is usually when the night shift girls arrive. They are fully ready by 7-8 pm, so I'the try to get there for 8-9 pm. For hooker hill, the girls generally get very busy between 9 pm and 1 am.

Good luck! And always remember YMMV.

RainMania, thank you very much for your detailed and informative answer. Very appreciated!

Just to add that if you decide on Hooker Hill it is best to go in knowing which provider you want. I recommend either Kay (she works weekends at Happy Days; near GFE service) or Bean (works at Avant Garde). Both are on the older side but are in good shape and offer good service. Both will run you 100 K for an hour. For Kay this will indeed mean a full hour. For Bean it may mean just one pop. As always YMMV.

[QUOTE=YoungAndSprung;2252213]First time report from an experience in Seoul.

I responded to a Craigslist ad in the massage section for a "Professional massage by Autumn Lee", a business advertised as an officetel run by a 24 year-old "professional massage" woman near Seollung station. We set it all up on Kakao, and I showed up. Her rates on CL were like 110,000 for an hour massage, on up based on the ad. I was able to deal her down to 40,000 for what turned out to be an hour long tug and rub, with extras, but I'll continue with the story.

She told me to meet her at her business address, which is Kangnam Daechi-dong 891-23 in her ad (she gave a map). Once outside her building, I was instructed what to do next.

The massage was a trip. It was like she completely lit up when we met. I felt like even if this had not been a job for her, we would have clicked. To describe her, she is kind of built a bit like "Bean" from Hooker Hill. She introduced herself as Gaeul. A bit short with fat butt potential going on (she said she's lost weight). She studied in Australia, and speaks excellent English.[/QUOTE]Hey can you share her kakao or her ad online with us?

[QUOTE=Lion55;2267758]Just to add that if you decide on Hooker Hill it is best to go in knowing which provider you want. I recommend either Kay (she works weekends at Happy Days; near GFE service) or Bean (works at Avant Garde). Both are on the older side but are in good shape and offer good service. Both will run you 100 K for an hour. For Kay this will indeed mean a full hour. For Bean it may mean just one pop. As always YMMV.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the girls name and bars name, but as first time in Seoul I don't know how much will be easy to locate the bars and girls. From what I read on this thread Miari and Cheon-ho (row B and C) seem more suitable for me, anyway Thanks again.

I am a Korean who was brought up in Australia, I'm going for a visit but I'm not keen to pay 250,000 won. Anyone got the nside scoppy or where I can get good service for cheap?

I'm mainly after incall hence I'm interested in officetels.

Please and thank you.

I'm a Korean by blood and am finally going to Korea in a few days. I really want to enjoy my time but I'm not willing tk pay 250,000 won. I hear that officetel was the new thing. Also I am looking for incall, can anyone help me out?

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2267909]Thank you for the girls name and bars name, but as first time in Seoul I don't know how much will be easy to locate the bars and girls. From what I read on this thread Miari and Cheon-ho (row B and C) seem more suitable for me, anyway Thanks again.[/QUOTE]By all means give Miari and / or Cheon-ho a try. But for the record both Happy Days and Avant Garde on Hooker Hill are super easy to find.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2265766]Save your money. Give Leah a try at OneDaySpa. Saw she had another ad up on CL today, but it already got deleted. She's now offering prostate massage. Actually said it in her ad. I don't think you can be any more direct than that. You will leave happy and she offers an express massage for something like 70 k.

[URL]http://seoul-massage.kr/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/spainseoul/[/URL][/QUOTE]What SeoulSearching said. Leah is a great masseuse, and a beautiful lady. Her he is really nice, slow and skillful, not mechanical, like a milking machine.

[QUOTE=Mcskorob;2268509]I'm a Korean by blood and am finally going to Korea in a few days. I really want to enjoy my time but I'm not willing tk pay 250,000 won. I hear that officetel was the new thing. Also I am looking for incall, can anyone help me out?[/QUOTE]If you go back, there's a site mentioned in this thread about where to find Officetels, and they aren't new. They've been around for a while now. However, if you don't speak Korean, it will be hard, if not impossible to book. Even if you speak Korean, but not fluently, they may ask if you are Korean and deny you, or charge extra. Finally, semi recently (last 2 years or so) some bookers have gotten selective about taking calls / appointments from people they don't know. I know some bookers won't even answer the phone or reply to messages from numbers they don't recognize.

Also keep in mind that some places use fake pictures so the girl you get might not exactly match up to the girl in the profile.

[QUOTE=Mcskorob;2268509]I'm a Korean by blood and am finally going to Korea in a few days. I really want to enjoy my time but I'm not willing tk pay 250,000 won. I hear that officetel was the new thing. Also I am looking for incall, can anyone help me out?[/QUOTE]Officitel or OPs in Korea due require the client to speak some Korean so as to book a reservation. The system these days are as follows:

1. You book an appointment with the manager via phone.

2. Arrive at the location, call the manager again to get the floor and room number. Some places now have locked door right outside the elevator that requires a key code.

3. Discreetly knock on the door and get in.

4. Shower, do the deed, pay and leave.

As you can imagine you need to speak Korean to book the girl, receive directions and get the key code, but beyond that you really don't have to speak unless you want to.

I do agree that booking a new place is a little more difficult since most places will ask if you visited other establishment and run your number by the other establishments to check that your not a cop but Seoul and Gangnam in particular is much more relaxed than other parts of Korea. Another way to get your foot into the door is if someone vouches for you and if you have a presence on the Korean op forms.

I can't imagine the establishment overcharging because you don't speak Korean and I hope race wouldn't be an issue but I can't say for certain.

OPs are definitely more complex to get into but definitely not as difficult as the establishments in Japan.

My advice to Korean or Asian non native speakers is to find a native speaker who can make the reservation for you or text through google translate.

On a side note Anmas are more might be better for someone like you as they are more accepting of walkins and they provide a more hardcore style of service. OPs on the other hand have younger girls and you can pick your victims.

Hope this help brothers. 1.

[QUOTE=Mcskorob;2268509]I'm a Korean by blood and am finally going to Korea in a few days. I really want to enjoy my time but I'm not willing tk pay 250,000 won. I hear that officetel was the new thing. Also I am looking for incall, can anyone help me out?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=NotherMonger;2270619]If you go back, there's a site mentioned in this thread about where to find Officetels, and they aren't new. They've been around for a while now. However, if you don't speak Korean, it will be hard, if not impossible to book. Even if you speak Korean, but not fluently, they may ask if you are Korean and deny you, or charge extra. Finally, semi recently (last 2 years or so) some bookers have gotten selective about taking calls / appointments from people they don't know. I know some bookers won't even answer the phone or reply to messages from numbers they don't recognize.

Also keep in mind that some places use fake pictures so the girl you get might not exactly match up to the girl in the profile.[/QUOTE]I forgot to attach some good Korean sights.

[URL]Bamwar30.com[/URL] is the most comprehensive but a little difficult to navigate.

[URL]opopgirl02.com[/URL] is one of many sights that advertises different establishments.

[QUOTE=Benja85;2271301]Officitel or OPs in Korea due require the client to speak some Korean so as to book a reservation. The system these days are as follows:

1. You book an appointment with the manager via phone.

2. Arrive at the location, call the manager again to get the floor and room number. Some places now have locked door right outside the elevator that requires a key code.

3. Discreetly knock on the door and get in.

4. Shower, do the deed, pay and leave.

As you can imagine you need to speak Korean to book the girl, receive directions and get the key code, but beyond that you really don't have to speak unless you want to..[/QUOTE]I am Korean by birth, but raised outside of Korea so my Korean is not perfect and I've been told by 1 establishment that they would charge extra. Granted, it was just 1 place, but it can happen.

Race is an issue, especially if you are non-Asian. I've talked to plenty of bookers and girls and a lot of them straight up tell me they will refuse black or Caucasians. Russian OPs tend to be a bit more liberal about race, however some are still hard to get into without a referral or being established.

Booking has gotten harder, and yes, there are places in Gangnam that will accept anyone, but I know of a few OPs that will not take on new customers. I've got the contact info for a few girls.

That I've seen at other places that moved to a new OP to which I could not get in. In the end, the girl had to tell their booker so I could make an appointment.

I have several bars from Hooker Hill in Itaewon, Seoul, in photos here. I have others, and will try to attach them after this page. Taken Jan 2019. What a mess.

Page 2 of Hooker Hill pics in Itaewon. Sorry, kind of random.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2272420]I have several bars from Hooker Hill in Itaewon, Seoul, in photos here. I have others, and will try to attach them after this page. Taken Jan 2019. What a mess.[/QUOTE]Looks like Avant Garde is open and running. Wonder if Bean's big ass was there at that early hour?

As long as she stays on the Hill, all is not lost. I first met her in 2006 and the day she (and Kay) retires will be the day I silently weep in my beer.

I see you have pics of Texas on the main strip. Soo-ae was working there a year ago when I went.

Kelly from the original Texas is the owner (or manager), wonder if she's working these days?

Working from around 2010 (I first met her the night Korea played Greece in the World Cup), she'd retired a few years back and was one of my ATF.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2272690]Looks like Avant Garde is open and running. Wonder if Bean's big ass was there at that early hour?

As long as she stays on the Hill, all is not lost. I first met her in 2006 and the day she (and Kay) retires will be the day I silently weep in my beer.

I see you have pics of Texas on the main strip. Soo-ae was working there a year ago when I went.

Kelly from the original Texas is the owner (or manager), wonder if she's working these days?

Working from around 2010 (I first met her the night Korea played Greece in the World Cup), she'd retired a few years back and was one of my ATF.[/QUOTE]Kay told me recently that she is moving from Happy Days to Avant Garde (I wonder whether she will do duos with Bean) .

There was a report a few weeks ago that indicated Kelly is still working. All three of them are oldies but goodies.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2272421]Page 2 of Hooker Hill pics in Itaewon. Sorry, kind of random.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for posting these photos. It does not look promising. I was thinking of paying a visit from Tokyo, but looking at your photos I question this now.

Checked out her site. Has like dozen services. But no info on her rate, how long the session is, or what's included in her session. Do you get all dozen of her services during your appointment? Can you give some more info on her rate, how long her session is, and what she offers? Even the express service that you state for 70 k, how long is that and hows it different from her normal session? I know I can call her but figure all the questioining will put her off and she might think I'm LE or something.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2265766]You had to pay a total of 120 k for a handjob, then?

Seriously?

Save your money. Give Leah a try at OneDaySpa. Saw she had another ad up on CL today, but it already got deleted. She's now offering prostate massage. Actually said it in her ad. I don't think you can be any more direct than that. You will leave happy and she offers an express massage for something like 70 k.

[URL]http://seoul-massage.kr/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/spainseoul/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2274271]Checked out her site. Has like dozen services. But no info on her rate, how long the session is, or what's included in her session. Do you get all dozen of her services during your appointment? Can you give some more info on her rate, how long her session is, and what she offers? Even the express service that you state for 70 k, how long is that and hows it different from her normal session? I know I can call her but figure all the questioining will put her off and she might think I'm LE or something.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hello!

The rate for ISG members is 80,000/60 mins, full body oil massage with options, PM me for details. Thank you.

P.S. There was a fire in Cheonho RLD, seems it doesn't operating anymore because the whole area is under construction right now. I live just nearby.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2272690]Looks like Avant Garde is open and running. Wonder if Bean's big ass was there at that early hour?

As long as she stays on the Hill, all is not lost. I first met her in 2006 and the day she (and Kay) retires will be the day I silently weep in my beer.

I see you have pics of Texas on the main strip. Soo-ae was working there a year ago when I went.

Kelly from the original Texas is the owner (or manager), wonder if she's working these days?

Working from around 2010 (I first met her the night Korea played Greece in the World Cup), she'd retired a few years back and was one of my ATF.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to remember her name. Is Kelly the lady who is maybe late 40's and speaks English somewhat well? She was in the other Texas on 'the hill' before going to this 2nd Texas, across from the lower International Food Store? If so, she was there, and the International Food Store Texas, last month. She seemed to be having trouble keeping girls working long-term. Easy come, easy go. Once they make the money they want for whatever, they're gone in short order. She's a nice lady, so it's nothing negative about her. I may have a photo of her, but I don't post pics of people without permission.

I am curious what's so great about Bean? Crazy good BJ? Any description? She's still around in the evenings. I know who she is.

Things are generally pretty downtrodden in Itaewon, on the Hill. I remember a government sign went up stating that the area is slated for demolition and apartments within 7 years. I want to say that was something like 5 years ago. I'm sure the owners are just holding out for a good price. By the way, there was a blonde foreign lady working in Forest Queen (the place that smells like cat [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]). She wasn't terribly attractive, to me. Might have been part Russian. I didn't glance long enough.

I really avoid the place. In all seriousness, the place has become such a money-sucking dump that I'd rather save money and spend in on livejasmine.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2275307]

I am curious what's so great about Bean? Crazy good BJ? Any description? She's still around in the evenings. I know who she is.
[/QUOTE]Bean has a remarkable body for a Korean woman. She wouldn't look out of place in a hip hop video (perky tits, flat abs, small hip, HUGE ASS), all packaged around 5 ft tall.

If she's in the mood, she does give a fantastic BJ (on the hill, only Kaye beats her ability-wise in this IMO). Wet, sloppy, fast or slow, with one or both hands and your shaft doesn't leave her mouth the whole time. BUT only if she's in the mood. That's my one criticism of her, she has her 'on' days and 'off' days, which I would say occur in almost equal frequency LOL.

She knows how to fuck too, ACG and RCG with her dont disappoint. But again, she has to be in the mood for you to get the full package. One thing Ill complement her for though, she can take a good pounding even on her off day. Never once has she asked me when Ill cum. Just takes it all like a champ.

What's the rate like at Hooker Hill?

I used to get 80000/ HR at Hyugetels 2 years ago but they're all gone now.

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2274988]There was a fire in Cheonho RLD, seems it doesn't operating anymore because the whole area is under construction right now. I live just nearby.[/QUOTE]Do you talking about the fire which occurred about a month ago?

[URL]http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3057286[/URL]

[URL]http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20181223000102[/URL]

[URL]https://newsbeezer.com/koreaeng/come-out-soon-cheonho-dong-owner-who-did-not-want-to-save-the-women-kookmin-ilbo/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SeoulSex;2275651]What's the rate like at Hooker Hill?

I used to get 80000/ HR at Hyugetels 2 years ago but they're all gone now.[/QUOTE]The hill is still 80-100 k for a pop depending on the time of day and your negotiation skills, add another 50-60% for a second pop. Some guys have gotten 70 k, but the last time I paid that was circa 2015.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2275739]Do you talking about the fire which occurred about a month ago?

[URL]http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3057286[/URL]

[URL]http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20181223000102[/URL]

[URL]https://newsbeezer.com/koreaeng/come-out-soon-cheonho-dong-owner-who-did-not-want-to-save-the-women-kookmin-ilbo/[/URL][/QUOTE]Correct, that building was built more than 50 years ago.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2275563]Bean has a remarkable body for a Korean woman. She wouldn't look out of place in a hip hop video (perky tits, flat abs, small hip, HUGE ASS), all packaged around 5 ft tall.

If she's in the mood, she does give a fantastic BJ (on the hill, only Kaye beats her ability-wise in this IMO). Wet, sloppy, fast or slow, with one or both hands and your shaft doesn't leave her mouth the whole time. BUT only if she's in the mood. That's my one criticism of her, she has her 'on' days and 'off' days, which I would say occur in almost equal frequency LOL.

She knows how to fuck too, ACG and RCG with her dont disappoint. But again, she has to be in the mood for you to get the full package. One thing Ill complement her for though, she can take a good pounding even on her off day. Never once has she asked me when Ill cum. Just takes it all like a champ.[/QUOTE]I agree about Bean being YMMV. First time I saw her the service was amazing. Second time was a complete bust. BTW, Kay and Cherry have both moved to Avant Garde. Kay told me that Happy Days has a new owner but it wasn't even open when I went by last night.

Thanks for the info on Bean. I'm still trying to figure out who Kay is.

I have been spoiled on The Hill in the past, and nothing there now is of the interest it once was. All of the ones I really liked have long, long gone.

Let's see. I'll bring some of you older guys down memory lane, now:

Sooyeon left VIP this past Fall. Got a good "normal" job, I heard. Glad for her, but sad for me. Great BJ. That was pretty recent.

Going way, way back to maybe 2003, there was this nutty woman who was insanely religious, borderline insane schitzo, and would recite church hymns and Bible verses while jerking you off. She slowly grew worse, and worse. Would sit and read her Bible between customers. That was difficult to digest.

Yumi used to work at Tiger, and was hot / fun / hilarious. She used to screw guys like she was on a merry-go-round, at Tiger. She could hardly stop laughing as she climbed on one guy after another, and money was rolling-in. Bat-shit crazy and moody, though. She was becoming increasingly religious, and appeared to be having mood swings about what she was doing conflicting with her occupation. Bi-polar, I swear, and I wonder whatever happened to her. Then again, maybe I don't want to know.

For years, there was a Taiwanese / Chinese lady who would leave and come back, named CeCe. She was SO hot in early 2000's. She dumped a bunch of cash into "Lucky Strike" bar, and lost her ass. She was living in a really nice apartment along the Han River, owned by some rich guy who would fly her to wherever he was, for a romp. Or just do it when he needed to stay in Seoul at his house (which she lived in rent-free). She was friends with Annie, and they worked together, for a while.

All-time favorite was probably Annie from VIP, ABC, and finally Ambrosia. She used to give the best BJ in history. Nobody could match her rhythm. She used to blow me, then lay on the floor and let me JO in her mouth while she looked me in the eye. She married some Canadian guy. I almost ended up living with her, and if my apartment hadn't been such a craphole at the time, I would have.

Giu of VIP and Tiger was a royal, moody, but sexy, in her younger days. She got way too much plastic surgery done. She was better natural.

Kelly of Tiger and Ambrosia was a fun and friendly Korean lady who gave a great BJ, practically identified as black, and was freaking CRAZY about pets. She married a nice black guy in the army, and lives stateside these past 10 years with at least 2 kids.

Janie used to work at Nymph, among a few other places. She left the biz a few years ago, and works hair / nails. We meet up once and a few years, for old times. Nice lady.

GoEun used to work at Cheers, until maybe a year or two ago. Cheers is pretty much abandoned, now. I miss her a lot. She taught English, and gave handjobs at Cheers, at night. She was fun. Wish I hadn't lost touch.

Youngsun was from Tiger circa 2002, and was one of the damned hottest and sexiest women I knew there. She disappeared about that time. I think she was marrying someone from the UK. That girl pulled 7 million a week, easy, back in the day.

Well, I'm randomly remembering people I've spent a lot of money on, over the years, on The Hill. I actually have folders of photos of these people, but they're all a secret, and I'll probably delete them, soon. Life must go on.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2276128]Thanks for the info on Bean. I'm still trying to figure out who Kay is.

I have been spoiled on The Hill in the past, and nothing there now is of the interest it once was. All of the ones I really liked have long, long gone.

Let's see. I'll bring some of you older guys down memory lane, now:

Sooyeon left VIP this past Fall. Got a good "normal" job, I heard. Glad for her, but sad for me. Great BJ. That was pretty recent.

Going way, way back to maybe 2003, there was this nutty woman who was insanely religious, borderline insane schitzo, and would recite church hymns and Bible verses while jerking you off. She slowly grew worse, and worse. Would sit and read her Bible between customers. That was difficult to digest.

Yumi used to work at Tiger, and was hot / fun / hilarious. She used to screw guys like she was on a merry-go-round, at Tiger. She could hardly stop laughing as she climbed on one guy after another, and money was rolling-in. Bat-shit crazy and moody, though. She was becoming increasingly religious, and appeared to be having mood swings about what she was doing conflicting with her occupation. Bi-polar, I swear, and I wonder whatever happened to her. Then again, maybe I don't want to know..[/QUOTE]Very impressive. Sometimes I miss those old days, too.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2276128]
Youngsun was from Tiger circa 2002, and was one of the damned hottest and sexiest women I knew there. She disappeared about that time. I think she was marrying someone from the UK. That girl pulled 7 million a week, easy, back in the day.

Well, I'm randomly remembering people I've spent a lot of money on, over the years, on The Hill. I actually have folders of photos of these people, but they're all a secret, and I'll probably delete them, soon. Life must go on.[/QUOTE]Sadly those days are long gone. I wonder how many of our MR princesses charging 300-500 k per pop can claim to make 7 mil a month. Let alone a week.

I'm willing to bet the current set of providers on the hill still make a decent living, providing they give their customers a reason to keep coming back (reasonable rates, good attitude etc).

Last time I spoke to a provider about earnings was at Miari around 2015. They charge 80-90 k there, of which she keeps half, the rest goes to rent etc and she was still taking home 5 mil a month, but she was one of the better looking and better performing ones in that house.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2275937]The hill is still 80-100 k for a pop depending on the time of day and your negotiation skills, add another 50-60% for a second pop. Some guys have gotten 70 k, but the last time I paid that was circa 2015.[/QUOTE]I saw Kaye at Happy Days and offered 150 k for 2 pops at 40 minutes, which I thought was fair considering Cheonho is 80 k for 20 minutes. She declined, I walked away and went to a massage place in Sillim (Bugsy) which charged 150 k for 2 pops with mid-20 girls and an hour long massage in between.

I went to the portal site (adal) and made the reservation. When I arrived, I picked the "the course", paid, showered, and they led me through a secret door locked electronically into a nice hotel style lobby and room. 20 min session with first girl, then hour massage with masseuse who fondled me, then the last 20 min session with another girl- both gorgeous. I made the right decision to walk away.

I look Korean and practiced my Korean enough that I can pass for one if I speak in short sentences. I don't think I would have gotten in if that wasn't the case.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2272420]I have several bars from Hooker Hill in Itaewon, Seoul, in photos here. I have others, and will try to attach them after this page. Taken Jan 2019. What a mess.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting those pics. Brings back memories. Grand Ole Opry has been around since the '70's and is still there? Why are Debut and Texas boarded up?

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2276128]Thanks for the info on Bean. I'm still trying to figure out who Kay is.

I have been spoiled on The Hill in the past, and nothing there now is of the interest it once was. All of the ones I really liked have long, long gone.

Let's see. I'll bring some of you older guys down memory lane, now:

Sooyeon left VIP this past Fall. Got a good "normal" job, I heard. Glad for her, but sad for me. Great BJ. That was pretty recent.

Going way, way back to maybe 2003, there was this nutty woman who was insanely religious, borderline insane schitzo, and would recite church hymns and Bible verses while jerking you off. She slowly grew worse, and worse. Would sit and read her Bible between customers. That was difficult to digest.

Yumi used to work at Tiger, and was hot / fun / hilarious. She used to screw guys like she was on a merry-go-round, at Tiger. She could hardly stop laughing as she climbed on one guy after another, and money was rolling-in. Bat-shit crazy and moody, though. She was becoming increasingly religious, and appeared to be having mood swings about what she was doing conflicting with her occupation. Bi-polar, I swear, and I wonder whatever happened to her. Then again, maybe I don't want to know.

For years, there was a Taiwanese / Chinese lady who would leave and come back, named CeCe. She was SO hot in early 2000's. She dumped a bunch of cash into "Lucky Strike" bar, and lost her ass. She was living in a really nice apartment along the Han River, owned by some rich guy who would fly her to wherever he was, for a romp. Or just do it when he needed to stay in Seoul at his house (which she lived in rent-free). She was friends with Annie, and they worked together, for a while.

All-time favorite was probably Annie from VIP, ABC, and finally Ambrosia. She used to give the best BJ in history. Nobody could match her rhythm. She used to blow me, then lay on the floor and let me JO in her mouth while she looked me in the eye. She married some Canadian guy. I almost ended up living with her, and if my apartment hadn't been such a craphole at the time, I would have.

Giu of VIP and Tiger was a royal, moody, but sexy, in her younger days. She got way too much plastic surgery done. She was better natural.

Kelly of Tiger and Ambrosia was a fun and friendly Korean lady who gave a great BJ, practically identified as black, and was freaking CRAZY about pets. She married a nice black guy in the army, and lives stateside these past 10 years with at least 2 kids.

Janie used to work at Nymph, among a few other places. She left the biz a few years ago, and works hair / nails. We meet up once and a few years, for old times. Nice lady.

GoEun used to work at Cheers, until maybe a year or two ago. Cheers is pretty much abandoned, now. I miss her a lot. She taught English, and gave handjobs at Cheers, at night. She was fun. Wish I hadn't lost touch.

Youngsun was from Tiger circa 2002, and was one of the damned hottest and sexiest women I knew there. She disappeared about that time. I think she was marrying someone from the UK. That girl pulled 7 million a week, easy, back in the day.

Well, I'm randomly remembering people I've spent a lot of money on, over the years, on The Hill. I actually have folders of photos of these people, but they're all a secret, and I'll probably delete them, soon. Life must go on.[/QUOTE]Do you remember the Korean woman who ran Moulin Rouge in the early 200's? Per the pictures, it's CC Bar now. Used to go there and get blowjobs from her and she had a couple of tasteful nude paintings of herself on the wall. One evening I went in, she was tending the bar and there was an old German guy sitting at the bar chatting with her. I sat a few stools away and said to her, "I'm thinking of getting another blowjob from you tonight, OK?" he face turned red and she was making facial expressions to tell me to shut up. Learned later that she was dating the German dude and they were planning to get married. Also used to pay $120 K apiece for 3 of her girls and have a fuck fest on top of the pool table. Mamasan would lock the door, cover the pool table with a cloth and we'd go crazy. She liked to watch and would grin from ear to ear. I really miss that place the most.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2276730]Do you remember the Korean woman who ran Moulin Rouge in the early 200's? Per the pictures, it's CC Bar now. Used to go there and get blowjobs from her and she had a couple of tasteful nude paintings of herself on the wall. One evening I went in, she was tending the bar and there was an old German guy sitting at the bar chatting with her. I sat a few stools away and said to her, "I'm thinking of getting another blowjob from you tonight, OK?" he face turned red and she was making facial expressions to tell me to shut up. Learned later that she was dating the German dude and they were planning to get married. Also used to pay $120 K apiece for 3 of her girls and have a fuck fest on top of the pool table. Mamasan would lock the door, cover the pool table with a cloth and we'd go crazy. She liked to watch and would grin from ear to ear. I really miss that place the most.[/QUOTE]Yup, I remember her!

And at least two of those girls still work in Itaewon. She rents Pandora, and only works when she feels like it. I also know what area she lives in, because I used to bump into her on the street, at night, when I lived around there (nowhere near Itaewon). I forget her name, off hand. She started working at Moulin Rouge for that lady when she was maybe 20. Gosh, she would be almost 34 or 35, now. Crazy sloppy BJ. Tall girl. Big, but not fat. Huge knockers.

The other girl who got her start there was Nayong, who now runs the Ambrosia bar. I remember when she was young, too. Last time I saw her at Ambrosia, she looked half-dead, and I thought she looked pretty ill, and a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

As per the former owner of the woman from Moulin Rouge- yeah, I think Germany is where she ended up. I do remember that guy, or at least her talking about him. He knew what she was doing.

We used to have a work deal going, where I would provide her some services from my business, and she would give me sex. Those were the days! Even though she was a bit older, she was still hot. They had that back room in Moulin Rouge that you'd have to take your shoes off and crawl into. Once I went there, and there was a "new girl" who was fresh out of high school, on her first night. Our owner friend asked me if I'd take her back there and teach her how to give a HJ. I paid 40,000 for that. I don't think the girl had ever touched a willie, before. Good times.

Remember those rows and rows of LP records, on the wall? There were rows of them downstairs in Cabin, also. I always wondered what happened to all of those? I'm sure they got thrown out. All kinds of originals in there, from The Beatles. , Kiss, etc. Decades worth of collectables that were probably thrown out.

The ajumma who managed Cheers had a pair of $1,000 Klipsch speakers hanging on the wall, and some ajoshi suckered her into trading them in on some cheap plastic Chinese crap. I was mad when I found that out. Cheers was great, too- they actually had hot women working there, until they closed down last year. Problem was, they kept opening later, and later. Pretty soon it didn't open until well after midnight. Couldn't make those hours.

[QUOTE=SeoulSex;2276495]I saw Kaye at Happy Days and offered 150 k for 2 pops at 40 minutes, which I thought was fair considering Cheonho is 80 k for 20 minutes. She declined, I walked away and went to a massage place in Sillim (Bugsy) which charged 150 k for 2 pops with mid-20 girls and an hour long massage in between.

I went to the portal site (adal) and made the reservation. When I arrived, I picked the "the course", paid, showered, and they led me through a secret door locked electronically into a nice hotel style lobby and room. 20 min session with first girl, then hour massage with masseuse who fondled me, then the last 20 min session with another girl- both gorgeous. I made the right decision to walk away.

I look Korean and practiced my Korean enough that I can pass for one if I speak in short sentences. I don't think I would have gotten in if that wasn't the case.[/QUOTE]It just wasn't your night with Kaye that night. Happens every once in a while. 150 k is very reasonable for 2 pops on the hill (assuming you weren't asking for anything else like BBFS or anal).

Good on you for having and using other options.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2277242]It just wasn't your night with Kaye that night. Happens every once in a while. 150 k is very reasonable for 2 pops on the hill (assuming you weren't asking for anything else like BBFS or anal).
.[/QUOTE]Indeed. Could be she already had several clients lined up for the evening.

Thanks Chris for your reviews!

I am in Seoul just for one evening with limited time and hoping for recommendations for either agencies or high quality independents. Happy to pay for a high quality 20's girl with great service! I am Caucasian and speak a very small amount of Korean.

Chris you had suggested "International Tour Guide Club" do the girls there do normal services BBBJ, DFK, etc?

Thanks so much!

[QUOTE=Splat;2204679]Hey,

I'm going to be in Seoul in a few weeks and, seeing as Sarah seems to have disappeared, I was looking through the listings on massage republic. Three caught my eye: Lilly Jung, "Independent" Kim, and "Korean Barbie" Jeni. All look gorgeous and have glowing reviews. Any one here have experience with any of them?[/QUOTE]Hi Splat, I have the same question. Curious if anyone PM'd you? Or did you try any of the three and have a report to share?

[QUOTE=Ready81;2043742]A few people swear by Bohemian, but I just think they are the best at the scam. The girls I had were cute, but not cuter than girls I've had at some other places. (though some agencies do the bait and switch, which Bohemian does not, to be fair).

Be careful about Aqua, as I think another Escort service has changed their name to Aqua as well. The one I am talking about has a huge natural boobed (yet slim) girl named JINAH. The photos they use of her on the website are real and the name she goes by appears to be real as well. Search something like "Seoul Escorts Jinah" and that will be the girl and the place. She had an extremely pretty face as well.

Venezuelan girl was friendly and spoke English well, which is already closer to genuine GFE than most K-girls here. The only issue with her is that I get the impression that she is very popular and knows it, so that may push her to rush. But I think Itaewon is probably the closest the genuine GFE in Korea. I think the Korean idea of GFE just does not translate to Westerners of any stripe. Korean guys seem to be attracted to girls who are coy, resist, and give off a kind of huffy (but supposedly "cute") attitude. The Itaewon girls seem to be the closest to "Westernized" in this sense. But then again, if you are in Korea, maybe you want to try Korea style. I am just annoyed by it after years.[/QUOTE]Wondering if anyone has had experience with the current lineup at Aqua? Jinah no longer there. Mina, Cocoa, Jun, K, Vicky, Mari, J, Sora, or Joy.

She looks really cute. But pricey, like all the girls on massage republic. Has anyone tried her?

Sarah's friend Eunhee Lee, all kinds of fetish, bondage, dominating and etc. Her web is [URL]http://seouleunhee.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2278003]Sarah's friend Eunhee Lee, all kinds of fetish, bondage, dominating and etc. Her web is [URL]http://seouleunhee.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]No offense to anyone that likes her, but she looks rather. Large for a Korean girl. Also, for 300 KRW / HR you can do a lot better IMO.

But then again if your a 70 year old white geezer I guess she's better then a 70 year old grannie.

[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2278111]No offense to anyone that likes her, but she looks rather. Large for a Korean girl. Also, for 300 KRW / HR you can do a lot better IMO.[/QUOTE]

Site says some of the girls are verified pics and theres reviews. And some girls are definite cuties. So is the site, reviews, pics that says verifired really legit and LE safe? Might use it more often to bang the girls then.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=TenBears;2277978]She looks really cute. But pricey, like all the girls on massage republic. Has anyone tried her?[/QUOTE]

No offense to anyone that likes her, but she looks rather. Large for a Korean girl.

True- Met her maybe couple of times.

I just found that Asian mistique escort agency in Tokyo is now operating in Seoul. [URL]https://www.asianmystique.com/[/URL].

There is one provider (so-so face, good attitude maybe idk) in Seoul area.

For my local friends, here some examples of affordable places in Seoul, like kissbang or handplay. [URL]https://opstar04.com/?cate1=5[/URL].

Good luck!

I just want to reiterate an earlier post by someone very smart.

There is a point where the prices on these "escort sites" get ridiculous. In my world, I don't see why anyone would pay a dollar more than 200 k for FS. Personally, I don't bother paying over 150 k, and I often work the Itaewon fair down to 100 k, if interested in that (but even then, I avoid FS, usually).

Save up and plan a trip out of the county, for gosh sake. These providers expecting 300 k and up? They can pound sand. Anyone willing to pay that is either weak, rich, or just not being wise with their money.

So these "Hi priced" girls know that and that's the client they are after anyway not locals. So to a foreignor US guy visiting Seoul they see it as normal since that's what they are use to paying. So its not being weak, rich, or not being wise just different in perspective based on what the guy is used to. When I first looked into banging the local korean girls arriving from US I was actually put off by the low prices ie. Under 200. Had the impression they had to be ugly, fatties, or grannies at those cheap prices because that's what you usually get back in the states for those prices.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2278191]I just want to reiterate an earlier post by someone very smart.

There is a point where the prices on these "escort sites" get ridiculous. In my world, I don't see why anyone would pay a dollar more than 200 k for FS. Personally, I don't bother paying over 150 k, and I often work the Itaewon fair down to 100 k, if interested in that (but even then, I avoid FS, usually).

Save up and plan a trip out of the county, for gosh sake. These providers expecting 300 k and up? They can pound sand. Anyone willing to pay that is either weak, rich, or just not being wise with their money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2278111]No offense to anyone that likes her, but she looks rather. Large for a Korean girl. Also, for 300 KRW / HR you can do a lot better IMO.[/QUOTE]Saw her once back when her rate was 250. Must've been 2014-15, and back then I didn't feel it was VFM.

There was even a time when her rate was 500 k per 'hour' LOL!

The most entertaining ad was this ajumma who used to post on backpage. Username was something like 'aphrodite'. Completely delusional posts about how amazing she was and how she was very picky about her client's age, weight, occupation etc, and was 'offering' a great deal of 400-500 k for a pop. Mind you she was an average mid 30-40's ajumma with a-cups!

Now posts similarly on MR, minus the picky criteria, but still asking for 250 k LOL.

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2278479]So these "Hi priced" girls know that and that's the client they are after anyway not locals. So to a foreignor US guy visiting Seoul they see it as normal since that's what they are use to paying. So its not being weak, rich, or not being wise just different in perspective based on what the guy is used to. When I first looked into banging the local korean girls arriving from US I was actually put off by the low prices ie. Under 200. Had the impression they had to be ugly, fatties, or grannies at those cheap prices because that's what you usually get back in the states for those prices.[/QUOTE]Thanks for making my point.

Anyone who pays that kind of money to these "providers" is ignorant and being played a fool. Cheated.

Just look at the photos of some of these girls expecting 300 k and up. Look a few posts down from this, for an example. You would seriously have to pay me to even consider something like that, and then there is no way I could get it up for it.

The agencies are all overpriced scam artists. Naive fools come here and think they're getting some pretty 20 year-old K-pop lookalike, based on a false photo, and they're sent some broken down divorcee in her 40's with plastic surgery gone awry. Most men are too guilt or embarrassed to say anything, and just walk away poorer, and hopefully wiser.

Even worse. A hook-glam want to be creates a webpage highlighting a pantyhosed body only captain Nemo could love, and advertises that she wants 300 or more.

Please.

Only completely naive or drunk foreigners would pay for that 2nd example, because nobody in a bar, Tinder, or anywhere else is going to give that the time of day.

People need to be educated that you should just not come here expecting good service for the money from these people.

A guy can pay to fly a beautiful thin lady from the Phils, or elsewhere, and have days of fun, for not much more. And she'll be grateful.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2278635]Saw her once back when her rate was 250. Must've been 2014-15, and back then I didn't feel it was VFM.

There was even a time when her rate was 500 k per 'hour' LOL!

The most entertaining ad was this ajumma who used to post on backpage. Username was something like 'aphrodite'. Completely delusional posts about how amazing she was and how she was very picky about her client's age, weight, occupation etc, and was 'offering' a great deal of 400-500 k for a pop. Mind you she was an average mid 30-40's ajumma with a-cups!

Now posts similarly on MR, minus the picky criteria, but still asking for 250 k LOL.[/QUOTE]Is it like. Real?

Years back when I hadn't my own website and just started to learn about advertising online, I had met people who run ads on Massage republic and CL) Eunhee advised me a few tips. I'd never used them actually.

There's one European lady now living in Hongdae area who provides massage therapy like me, I emailed her once, but never got a response. She wrote in her blog that nowadays, CL is not like it was before. I agree with her, about 4 5 years ago it was so easy to run a private ad, including escort.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2276730]Do you remember the Korean woman who ran Moulin Rouge in the early 200's? Per the pictures, it's CC Bar now. Used to go there and get blowjobs from her and she had a couple of tasteful nude paintings of herself on the wall. One evening I went in, she was tending the bar and there was an old German guy sitting at the bar chatting with her. I sat a few stools away and said to her, "I'm thinking of getting another blowjob from you tonight, OK?" he face turned red and she was making facial expressions to tell me to shut up. Learned later that she was dating the German dude and they were planning to get married. Also used to pay $120 K apiece for 3 of her girls and have a fuck fest on top of the pool table. Mamasan would lock the door, cover the pool table with a cloth and we'd go crazy. She liked to watch and would grin from ear to ear. I really miss that place the most.[/QUOTE]I remember back in 2008 the lady that worked there or owned? It. I think she drove a little convertible that she parked out front, Mercedes maybe? Was short and had curly hair, bolt on tits, firm body, nice face. She was a hotty, but I never did romp with her.

Anyway, there's so many of those women who've come and gone through the hill. I can only remember faces and places, but few names.

[QUOTE=Lion55;2276032]I agree about Bean being YMMV. First time I saw her the service was amazing. Second time was a complete bust. BTW, Kay and Cherry have both moved to Avant Garde. Kay told me that Happy Days has a new owner but it wasn't even open when I went by last night.[/QUOTE]Kay, Cherry, and Bean at Avante Garde. That's a crowded house.

Cherry has those enormous tits, but is pretty fat, now, too. There was a time when she had a waist that complimented her tits and she was 'wow'.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2275563]Bean has a remarkable body for a Korean woman. She wouldn't look out of place in a hip hop video (perky tits, flat abs, small hip, HUGE ASS), all packaged around 5 ft tall.
[/QUOTE]
Bean is the only Korean woman that I know that can lay on her stomach and her pussy is right there for you, without spreading her legs or lifting her hips. Amazing! I love it.

LOL, maybe too much information, but she tends to 'queef' a lot, especially when you DATY.

Not sure if DATY is a smart idea considering she has boxes of condoms that she runs through weekly.

Add that up over 13 years (I first saw her in 2006) and that's a lot of dick.

I will say, though, that after you DATY and then hit it BBFS, she feels like heaven. Wow.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2275307]I'm trying to remember her name. Is Kelly the lady who is maybe late 40's and speaks English somewhat well? She was in the other Texas on 'the hill' before going to this 2nd Texas, across from the lower International Food Store? If so, she was there, and the International Food Store Texas, last month. She seemed to be having trouble keeping girls working long-term. Easy come, easy go. Once they make the money they want for whatever, they're gone in short order. She's a nice lady, so it's nothing negative about her. I may have a photo of her, but I don't post pics of people without permission.[/QUOTE]Sounds like her. Kelly's in her 40's or probably 50's now. She has a real nice body and nice ass, usually bob haircut, and tan.

She ran the old Texas on the hill and now the one on the main strip that you're talking about. Soo-ae was working there last December when I visited for vacation, but Kelly wasn't there.

I asked Soo-Ae if Kelly was available and she said 'Never! I laughed to myself and thought about 2014, just before I left Korea, when I paid Kelly about 300,000 won for a tryst with Candy's friend at VIP, despite her 'retirement'.

If you have a picture of Kelly and would like to PM me, that'd be nice. She's one of my ATF and hopefully she's still DTF when I get back there in a year or so.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2278841]Sounds like her. Kelly's in her 40's or probably 50's now. She has a real nice body and nice ass, usually bob haircut, and tan.

She ran the old Texas on the hill and now the one on the main strip that you're talking about. Soo-ae was working there last December when I visited for vacation, but Kelly wasn't there.

I asked Soo-Ae if Kelly was available and she said 'Never! I laughed to myself and thought about 2014, just before I left Korea, when I paid Kelly about 300,000 won for a tryst with Candy's friend at VIP, despite her 'retirement'.

If you have a picture of Kelly and would like to PM me, that'd be nice. She's one of my ATF and hopefully she's still DTF when I get back there in a year or so.[/QUOTE]Ah, the pics I have are from 2010, due to the date stamp. Video, actually. They aren't nudes, or anything like that. People sometimes have let me take photos in confidence, and I just can't share them, unless they're long, long gone and would never remember me. If we're talking about the same lady, and I think we are, she's more of a mamasan these days. Back then, in 2010, she was working at Either Avant Garde, Tiffany, or Happy Days. Might have still been called Hobby Horse, back then? Can't remember. It was one of those 3 on the line, below old Polly's. She was new to the hill in 2010. I remember the night, because I was with Nadia the same night, down the street at Moonshine, and took pics, then, too. She was drunk off her ass, or probably wouldn't have let me. Both time-stamped same evening.

About 2 years ago, there was a hottie working at Texas 1, then Texas 2, with Kelly. I have photos and video of me blowing my load all over her, a few times. Her name was YoungEun. Cute little thing in her mid 20's, I'm guessing. Really miss her.

For old times sake, I will include a photo of the Thai lady who used to walk independent around the hill.

By the way, I heard Sunny has left Tiffany, recently. She comes and goes.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2278639]Thanks for making my point.

Anyone who pays that kind of money to these "providers" is ignorant and being played a fool. Cheated.

Just look at the photos of some of these girls expecting 300 k and up. Look a few posts down from this, for an example. You would seriously have to pay me to even consider something like that, and then there is no way I could get it up for it.

The agencies are all overpriced scam artists. Naive fools come here and think they're getting some pretty 20 year-old K-pop lookalike, based on a false photo, and they're sent some broken down divorcee in her 40's with plastic surgery gone awry. Most men are too guilt or embarrassed to say anything, and just walk away poorer, and hopefully wiser.

Even worse. A hook-glam want to be creates a webpage highlighting a pantyhosed body only captain Nemo could love, and advertises that she wants 300 or more.

Please.

Only completely naive or drunk foreigners would pay for that 2nd example, because nobody in a bar, Tinder, or anywhere else is going to give that the time of day.

People need to be educated that you should just not come here expecting good service for the money from these people.

A guy can pay to fly a beautiful thin lady from the Phils, or elsewhere, and have days of fun, for not much more. And she'll be grateful.[/QUOTE]Hear hear!

If you're paying an agency 300+ per hour (10 mins BJ, 10-20 minutes fuck and she's out of there), just know at least half of that is going to some guy sitting in a chair doing absolutely nothing other than spamming websites looking for gullible mongerers. And let's not forget you probably forked out for the hotel / motel room too, and an extra 20-50 bucks for her 'taxi' (aka pimp).

If you're paying an independent girl for the same, you're still shorting yourself because she's just earned a month's rent for what is essentially half an hour's work, which you probably worked at least a day or two to earn. You just dropped 1-2 day's wages (16 hrs work) for 30 mins of sub-par action. And you're supposed to be satisfied with that?

Even at 100 per hour independent girls are in the top 1% earners in the country, and I damn well guarantee they wouldn't have a shortage of customers.

I once did a breakdown of generic costs of running an establishment and why the likes of anmas and officetels charge what they charge, you can actually see where your money is going in terms of staffing, the venue and services. But some bullshit one man / girl operation deserves the same fee or more for offering less? Take a fucking hike LOL.

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2278721]Is it like. Real?

Years back when I hadn't my own website and just started to learn about advertising online, I had met people who run ads on Massage republic and CL) Eunhee advised me a few tips. I'd never used them actually.

There's one European lady now living in Hongdae area who provides massage therapy like me, I emailed her once, but never got a response. She wrote in her blog that nowadays, CL is not like it was before. I agree with her, about 4 5 years ago it was so easy to run a private ad, including escort.[/QUOTE]It's very real LOL.

She would write paragraph after paragraph (about 10 in all, if not more) of nonsensical bullshit about what she expected from the lucky client that meets her criteria and how her massage and sex are world class. She started to tone down on the criteria bit after a few months, I imagine because very few mongerers, as horny and dumb as we might be, are not that dumb.

Advertising is only one piece of the puzzle to running a successful SP business. Most foreigner-oriented SPs in Korea still don't understand repeat customers make your business last, not one time visitors flying in on a business trip. They had a good base of customers back in the day's rates were 150, but most of us have moved on to greener pastures after the price gouging started. I don't know about other guys, but I won't be back in the local independent scene because I've found literally a million other ways and places to spend my money.

I'm saying is if a foreginor comes to seoul and see advertised rates of 300 they would not be shocked since that's the going rate in the US etc. Now after seeing all the grannies and fatties also advertising at those rates the guy probably will think the hoe scene in Korea is trash and / or theres alot of fetish needs in Korea to pay 300 for a fattie.

US cost breakdown goes like this: 300=150 to the girl, 100 to the owner, 50 to the booker. Korean girls take less of a cut here since alot try to work overseas in the US or Japan.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2278913]Hear hear!

If you're paying an agency 300+ per hour (10 mins BJ, 10-20 minutes fuck and she's out of there), just know at least half of that is going to some guy sitting in a chair doing absolutely nothing other than spamming websites looking for gullible mongerers. And let's not forget you probably forked out for the hotel / motel room too, and an extra 20-50 bucks for her 'taxi' (aka pimp).

If you're paying an independent girl for the same, you're still shorting yourself because she's just earned a month's rent for what is essentially half an hour's work, which you probably worked at least a day or two to earn. You just dropped 1-2 day's wages (16 hrs work) for 30 mins of sub-par action. And you're supposed to be satisfied with that?

Even at 100 per hour independent girls are in the top 1% earners in the country, and I damn well guarantee they wouldn't have a shortage of customers.

I once did a breakdown of generic costs of running an establishment and why the likes of anmas and officetels charge what they charge, you can actually see where your money is going in terms of staffing, the venue and services. But some bullshit one man / girl operation deserves the same fee or more for offering less? Take a fucking hike LOL.[/QUOTE]

The girls and owners there have the routine down to a science.

60 min session:

-5 minutes of GFE arms wrapped around your neck sensual DFK soon as you step in the apt by the door.

-5 minutes bend down upzip pants and BBBJ.

-10 minutes of mutual shower, DFK, bubble body rub, HJ, BBBJ, rub your dick in front of pussy hole teasing bareback.

-20 minutes of FS, 69,CG, BBBJ, rimming, CIM, bareback sometimes.

-15 minutes of DFK, GFE, HJ or 2nd shot attempt.

-5 minutes final shower, DFK, bye.

Service like this reason so many guys end up dating or marrying the chicks in the US. Korea is lame service wise. Barely any GFE and all clock watchers. I rather hobby in US at 300 then 150 that I pay in Korea.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2278913]Hear hear!

If you're paying an agency 300+ per hour (10 mins BJ, 10-20 minutes fuck and she's out of there), just know at least half of that is going to some guy sitting in a chair doing absolutely nothing other than spamming websites looking for gullible mongerers. And let's not forget you probably forked out for the hotel / motel room too, and an extra 20-50 bucks for her 'taxi' (aka pimp).

If you're paying an independent girl for the same, you're still shorting yourself because she's just earned a month's rent for what is essentially half an hour's work, which you probably worked at least a day or two to earn. You just dropped 1-2 day's wages (16 hrs work) for 30 mins of sub-par action. And you're supposed to be satisfied with that?

Even at 100 per hour independent girls are in the top 1% earners in the country, and I damn well guarantee they wouldn't have a shortage of customers.

I once did a breakdown of generic costs of running an establishment and why the likes of anmas and officetels charge what they charge, you can actually see where your money is going in terms of staffing, the venue and services. But some bullshit one man / girl operation deserves the same fee or more for offering less? Take a fucking hike LOL.[/QUOTE]

I'd generally agree that the service in the states is better than in Korea, but it's gone downhill since of the main review sites went offline. I've still had some really memorable sessions in Korea though, so it's always going to be YMMV. As for looks, I'd say it's subjective, but for me (as someone who mongered in the states in since the 90's, specifically California / LA / SF) I find girls in Korea are generally younger and there is much, much more selection if you can get into Officetels. I guess it depends on what you're looking for.

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2278930]The girls and owners there have the routine down to a science.

60 min session:

-5 minutes of GFE arms wrapped around your neck sensual DFK soon as you step in the apt by the door.

-5 minutes bend down upzip pants and BBBJ.

-10 minutes of mutual shower, DFK, bubble body rub, HJ, BBBJ, rub your dick in front of pussy hole teasing bareback.

-20 minutes of FS, 69,CG, BBBJ, rimming, CIM, bareback sometimes.

-15 minutes of DFK, GFE, HJ or 2nd shot attempt.

-5 minutes final shower, DFK, bye.

Service like this reason so many guys end up dating or marrying the chicks in the US. Korea is lame service wise. Barely any GFE and all clock watchers. I rather hobby in US at 300 then 150 that I pay in Korea.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2278874]If we're talking about the same lady, and I think we are, she's more of a mamasan these days. Back then, in 2010, she was working at Either Avant Garde, Tiffany, or Happy Days. Might have still been called Hobby Horse, back then? Can't remember. It was one of those 3 on the line, below old Polly's. She was new to the hill in 2010. goes.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she had transitioned to mamasan back in 2014 or so. Said she was out of the game, but when I dropped 200,000 won in 2014 for a short time, she didn't turn it down, and even commented that she can't let the other girls see her walking up the hill to my hotel room at the hilltop.

She had another girl working for her at the time and I paid 200,000 for a threesome, but knew it would be lame so instead offered 200,000 for the girl to hang out while Kelly went to my room and we fucked. LOL.

She did start working in 2010, because I remember the first time I saw her was the night Korea played in the World Cup in June 2010. I left in July for about 9 months, but came back the next year in March for 3 more years.

She got tired of me short-changing her (100 K or less for a session), fucking her bareback, blowing my load in her, etc. , so she cut me off.

She worked in Thailand prior to 2010 and worked in Tiffany's, I believe, when I first saw her and then moved down to 'Amazon', which burned down in a fire and is where the hotel is now.

After Amazon burned, she bounced down to what used to be called 'Rose' and changed it to 'Texas'.

She used to date this old dude, about 65 years old, and stayed at his apartment from time to time. I saw him once in her bar and he said Hi. Nice guy, don't think he was tracking that I was laying the pipe to his prostitute girlfriend / mamasan.

Now I guess she's running Texas on the mainstrip, hope she's working there when I get there in the summer. Looking forward to fucking her for old time sake.

The picture of the girl is somewhat familiar, but I know I didn't fuck her. Kelly had some nice, nice looking girls that worked for her and I always was tempted to fuck them, but felt guilty that Kelly wouldn't let me fuck her anymore if I did.

What's a Korean "backpage" type site to call escorts?

Sidenote: Recently went over to Suwon's red or should I say pink light district to check out the scene. None of the hot looking girls on the main strip would see me but took a turn into a small alley with less traffic and went up to one that I thought looked decent enough and she let me bang for 50 krw. The girls on this strip where definitely less attractive and "bigger". Would the Cheonho one be more foreigner friendly?

OK, for a few more trips down memory lane, of ladies long, long gone. I'll keep it to girls I haven't seen in nearly 10 years, or longer.

Anyone remember "Sunny" who used to work at Tiger, then Royal (VIP), and various places around The Hill, back around 2002-2005, or so? She once told me that she used to be a really good dancer (and this was backed-up by some other girls working with her). She may have been on TV for it, back when hip-hop style dancing was young, in Korea. Sunny was maybe 4'10" tall, if that. She had straight hair pulled tight, and spoke like she'd learned her English from hip-hop while smoking cigarettes. She had an alcohol problem, and money troubles (which led to her leaving the hill entirely, much like Giu). Rumor I heard was that she skipped-out on rent and had to disappear. Times became really tough back then, because it was not long after the US troops were really being watched by MP's and kept from the hill, rents were still expensive to make, and not enough clients came in to pay for it. Rough time for many of the ladies.

The rumor I heard was that Sunny ran off to Dongducheon, and I actually went there once, but didn't see her. Sunny got the raw end of the deal on life. She once told me her parents were killed in a car accident, and she was basically raised by her grandmother. But I think she had to raise herself. I miss her. Really fun sense of humor, and a laugh to be around. Sometimes we'd just do it, and I'd pay her, but I don't think she always expected that. I think we just liked doing each other. Sometimes I would just visit to say Hi, and we'd talk for an hour or two. I didn't buy drinks or anything, and she never asked. She's one of the 2 or 3 hill girls that came to my apartment as a friend just to hang out. No money involved. Wish I could blow my load in her, again. I liked her body, and the way she did her make-up.

Another interesting lady wasn't around very long. I would give you her name, because I actually think it was her real name, so I won't. She was gargantuan huge, in height, and former national volleyball player. This was confirmed both by her, and other girls working the hill, who remember watching her on TV. She might have been on the Olympic team, if I remember one of the other girls telling me that. She was at least 6'3" tall, minimum. Actually, she could have been close to 6'4" tall. She started out working at Cabin, and gave a nice BJ, letting you blow a load all over her face. I remember cumming in her wide-open mouth, and her choking on it (I had quite a load, that day). I went for a ride in her (I think it was White) Ssayoung Jeep-like vehicle, once. She was a really nice girl -- and honestly, didn't have any business being on the hill, because she was just too good of a person. I remember once she told me that she was so big, people would confuse her for a guy sometimes, and that other Koreans were surprised when she told them she would cry, sometimes (as if she were too big / strong to cry). Anyway, she was only around for maybe a year or so, mid 2000's. I remember she started dating a tall African guy who was someone bigger than she was. I imagine she had a real difficult time finding love in this country, give her stature. I wanted to hug that girl when I visited her, because I couldn't imagine what she must have endured, growing up. I hope that guy was good to her, and I hope he wasn't just using her for a Visa, or something. I think I remember telling her she needed to find a new way to make money, because she was way too good a person to be doing that, and she was. Thankfully, she disappeared.

I'll leave you with another pic, today. This is a different girl named "Sunny" who was working in 2002-2003. She worked in what was once (I believe) Dallas club, which has been named MoonShine for many years. This particular Sunny was pulling down massive coin in 2002, and she worked with another young hottie who married a guy and moved to St. Louis (gosh I wish I remember her name, as she gave an awesome BJ while doing the splits, and I loved her slow style). Sunny made 7 or 8 million a month, easy, back in those days. I think she saved up enough to buy into real estate. Her English was very good, and she was smart. She and that other girl got their start at Cheers club, before opening Dallas. I believe I remember both of these girls were originally from Jeju. I remember sitting and waiting for her in one curtained booth while she did some guy in the next booth. I caught a peek through the curtain folds.

Here's that pic of the 2nd Sunny, showing a look at her face when getting the shaft, and also her legs before. Also some pics of the Hill circa 2003, when MoonShine was Dallas, before the big burn down of ABC, Tiger, etc, and when VIP used to be called Royal.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2278918]It's very real LOL.

She would write paragraph after paragraph (about 10 in all, if not more) of nonsensical bullshit about what she expected from the lucky client that meets her criteria and how her massage and sex are world class. She started to tone down on the criteria bit after a few months, I imagine because very few mongerers, as horny and dumb as we might be, are not that dumb.

Advertising is only one piece of the puzzle to running a successful SP business. Most foreigner-oriented SPs in Korea still don't understand repeat customers make your business last, not one time visitors flying in on a business trip. They had a good base of customers back in the day's rates were 150, but most of us have moved on to greener pastures after the price gouging started. I don't know about other guys, but I won't be back in the local independent scene because I've found literally a million other ways and places to spend my money.[/QUOTE]Yes SP businesses are far from perfect. The only one happening bar in Seoul isn't available in English [URL]http://www.clubdesire.co.kr/m/main.php[/URL].

I remember BP required a credit card for advertising so it was kinda tricky because of privacy.

Stopped by and had a talk with some ladies on The Hill, and got some serious news.

Much of the top of the hill is to be demolished by April 1, to make way for more hotel or hostel guest house buildings.

I took a photo of them more condemned buildings, and heard that some of your favorite haunts will also be ripped down, including old Polly's kettle. But if course, this ancient site is not taking it.

Basically everything that is on either side of Polly's, including Avant Garde, Tiffany, and the other in that block, also. Bar J, Forrest, and new Polly's are already boarded up.

They are still there, but this includes where your beloved Kay and friend Bean work. Saw Kay was there tonight.

The mamasan from Tiffany said she is planning to open a bar behind Hamilton somewhere, but is not sure if it will be a bar just for drinks or with girls, or a typical public bar.

Cool to read stuff about hobby life back in the old days. For sure I could not handle seeing chicks back then with unshaved pubes thick as the amazon rain forest and butt hairs. Grosses me out just imagining that now actually. Too used to proper grooming with laser waxing etc in modern times now.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2279264]OK, for a few more trips down memory lane, of ladies long, long gone. I'll keep it to girls I haven't seen in nearly 10 years, or longer.

Anyone remember "Sunny" who used to work at Tiger, then Royal (VIP), and various places around The Hill, back around 2002-2005, or so? She once told me that she used to be a really good dancer (and this was backed-up by some other girls working with her). She may have been on TV for it, back when hip-hop style dancing was young, in Korea. Sunny was maybe 4'10" tall, if that. She had straight hair pulled tight, and spoke like she'd learned her English from hip-hop while smoking cigarettes. She had an alcohol problem, and money troubles (which led to her leaving the hill entirely, much like Giu). Rumor I heard was that she skipped-out on rent and had to disappear. Times became really tough back then, because it was not long after the US troops were really being watched by MP's and kept from the hill, rents were still expensive to make, and not enough clients came in to pay for it. Rough time for many of the ladies.

The rumor I heard was that Sunny ran off to Dongducheon, and I actually went there once, but didn't see her. Sunny got the raw end of the deal on life. She once told me her parents were killed in a car accident, and she was basically raised by her grandmother. But I think she had to raise herself. I miss her. Really fun sense of humor, and a laugh to be around. Sometimes we'd just do it, and I'd pay her, but I don't think she always expected that. I think we just liked doing each other. Sometimes I would just visit to say Hi, and we'd talk for an hour or two. I didn't buy drinks or anything, and she never asked. She's one of the 2 or 3 hill girls that came to my apartment as a friend just to hang out. No money involved. Wish I could blow my load in her, again. I liked her body, and the way she did her make-up.

Another interesting lady wasn't around very long. I would give you her name, because I actually think it was her real name, so I won't. She was gargantuan huge, in height, and former national volleyball player. This was confirmed both by her, and other girls working the hill, who remember watching her on TV. She might have been on the Olympic team, if I remember one of the other girls telling me that. She was at least 6'3" tall, minimum. Actually, she could have been close to 6'4" tall. She started out working at Cabin, and gave a nice BJ, letting you blow a load all over her face. I remember cumming in her wide-open mouth, and her choking on it (I had quite a load, that day). I went for a ride in her (I think it was White) Ssayoung Jeep-like vehicle, once. She was a really nice girl -- and honestly, didn't have any business being on the hill, because she was just too good of a person. I remember once she told me that she was so big, people would confuse her for a guy sometimes, and that other Koreans were surprised when she told them she would cry, sometimes (as if she were too big / strong to cry). Anyway, she was only around for maybe a year or so, mid 2000's. I remember she started dating a tall African guy who was someone bigger than she was. I imagine she had a real difficult time finding love in this country, give her stature. I wanted to hug that girl when I visited her, because I couldn't imagine what she must have endured, growing up. I hope that guy was good to her, and I hope he wasn't just using her for a Visa, or something. I think I remember telling her she needed to find a new way to make money, because she was way too good a person to be doing that, and she was. Thankfully, she disappeared.

I'll leave you with another pic, today. This is a different girl named "Sunny" who was working in 2002-2003. She worked in what was once (I believe) Dallas club, which has been named MoonShine for many years. This particular Sunny was pulling down massive coin in 2002, and she worked with another young hottie who married a guy and moved to St. Louis (gosh I wish I remember her name, as she gave an awesome BJ while doing the splits, and I loved her slow style). Sunny made 7 or 8 million a month, easy, back in those days. I think she saved up enough to buy into real estate. Her English was very good, and she was smart. She and that other girl got their start at Cheers club, before opening Dallas. I believe I remember both of these girls were originally from Jeju. I remember sitting and waiting for her in one curtained booth while she did some guy in the next booth. I caught a peek through the curtain folds.

Here's that pic of the 2nd Sunny, showing a look at her face when getting the shaft, and also her legs before. Also some pics of the Hill circa 2003, when MoonShine was Dallas, before the big burn down of ABC, Tiger, etc, and when VIP used to be called Royal.[/QUOTE]

Was checking some of ads and one of them had girls offering a service option of "hamburger" in korean. What in the world is that?

[QUOTE=Wolfpack23;2279239]What's a Korean "backpage" type site to call escorts?

Sidenote: Recently went over to Suwon's red or should I say pink light district to check out the scene. None of the hot looking girls on the main strip would see me but took a turn into a small alley with less traffic and went up to one that I thought looked decent enough and she let me bang for 50 krw. The girls on this strip where definitely less attractive and "bigger". Would the Cheonho one be more foreigner friendly?[/QUOTE]

All mid 30's advertising as 20's. Once in awhile legit 20 girl will show up.

Still hot but since over 30 dumped to the curve in Korea so head to the states to get biz. But man what they lack in youth they more then make up for it in service and skills since had years of experience working in Korea before heading to the states. I guess that's why the service is so good. Been working for so long they have no hang ups banging dudes and refined their sex skills.

[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2279116]I'd generally agree that the service in the states is better than in Korea, but it's gone downhill since of the main review sites went offline. I've still had some really memorable sessions in Korea though, so it's always going to be YMMV. As for looks, I'd say it's subjective, but for me (as someone who mongered in the states in since the 90's, specifically California / LA / SF) I find girls in Korea are generally younger and there is much, much more selection if you can get into Officetels. I guess it depends on what you're looking for.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2279264]Another interesting lady wasn't around very long. I would give you her name, because I actually think it was her real name, so I won't. She was gargantuan huge, in height, and former national volleyball player. This was confirmed both by her, and other girls working the hill, who remember watching her on TV. She might have been on the Olympic team, if I remember one of the other girls telling me that. She was at least 6'3" tall, minimum. .[/QUOTE]Not sure about the pic posted, but I certainly remember the gargantuan girl. In the words of Adam Sandler, 'she's a big *****, behemoth!' She was super tall and known for being the volleyball player, I had seen her around a few times and remember she only worked for a year or two.

I left Korea in 2004, but flew back during my mid-tour leave from Iraq in June 2005 and she was working the top of the hill at a place across from Stompers, now known as 'Lily'. I stopped by mid-day and she was there, not many other girls working at the time, so I thought I may as well go with it.

She did like a strip tease or so, but I was unimpressed and asked her to lay down so I could DATY. Her legs were so long, I remember thinking they could wrap around my head two or three times. She seemed to enjoy it pretty good and myself, too. I remember BBFS and blowing my load, then leaving.

I went back to Iraq and returned to Korea a year later, but I never saw her again, though I asked the ajumma what became of her. Same as what you said, the ajumma replied that she had run off with some black guy. Too bad for me, but good for her, I guess. She was a nice girl, nice personality, not jaded or money hungry in anyway.

I also remember the Royal club before it became VIP. In 1999, I remember going there with friends and a real hot looking girl worked there. My friend was a pretty good looking dude, he went to the bathroom to take a leak and she followed him in and started giving him BBBJ! He couldn't believe it and told me as much. Crazy times. I'd never get that treatment.

Back then the Hill was known more for partying than for hookers. Stompers was rocking, the bars across the street from it were party bars, not juicy joints. Polly's Kettle House was full of drunk customers and the place beside it (now yogurt joint?) was a legit bar with pool table. Trans bars were nonexistent, their place was down the hill on the other side of the street.

I also remember what used to be 'Amazon', changed to Tiger Tavern and a girl that was murdered there in February 2000. I remembered meeting her in on New Years night 1999 and paying her for short time. One of the few times back then that I didn't use a condom (I was still young then), she was so distraught that I blew inside her. I felt bad and went back to visit her on a cold Monday in February, when I noticed all the bars were closed and police tape around the Amazon club. The next day I read in Stars and Stripes that a soldier from Munsan came down and choked her to death in a drunken rage. Sad.

Anyway, like I said, hookers weren't as prevalent on the hill and it was more work to find a decent one. However, by 2003 when I was stationed there again, it was a rocking *****house from top to bottom. Cabin, where Bean first started working with another older Korean woman with a nice rack and body and good fuck.

August 2003, across from Moonshine was 'Rose' (changed to Texas, now boarded up) and I glimpsed the most beautiful Korean girl on the hill. A stunner in a red dress with D size naturals, long curly hair, and a beautiful face. I was smitten and I paid something like $300 or so, just ridiculous amount. I fucked her BB just hoping that she'd get knocked up and marry me. She's continued working on the hill for many years now, friends with Candy at VIP and Tiffany (on the main strip) bar. She's gained some weight, but her face is still beautiful. At the time, though, she was something else. Gorgeous. I would spend quite a bit of coin on her through the years, always a fun time.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2279454]Not sure about the pic posted, but I certainly remember the gargantuan girl. In the words of Adam Sandler, 'she's a big *****, behemoth!' She was super tall and known for being the volleyball player, I had seen her around a few times and remember she only worked for a year or two.

I left Korea in 2004, but flew back during my mid-tour leave from Iraq in June 2005 and she was working the top of the hill at a place across from Stompers, now known as 'Lily'. I stopped by mid-day and she was there, not many other girls working at the time, so I thought I may as well go with it.

She did like a strip tease or so, but I was unimpressed and asked her to lay down so I could DATY. Her legs were so long, I remember thinking they could wrap around my head two or three times. She seemed to enjoy it pretty good and myself, too. I remember BBFS and blowing my load, then leaving.

I went back to Iraq and returned to Korea a year later, but I never saw her again, though I asked the ajumma what became of her. Same as what you said, the ajumma replied that she had run off with some black guy. Too bad for me, but good for her, I guess. She was a nice girl, nice personality, not jaded or money hungry in anyway.

I also remember the Royal club before it became VIP. In 1999, I remember going there with friends and a real hot looking girl worked there. My friend was a pretty good looking dude, he went to the bathroom to take a leak and she followed him in and started giving him BBBJ! He couldn't believe it and told me as much. Crazy times. I'd never get that treatment.

Back then the Hill was known more for partying than for hookers. Stompers was rocking, the bars across the street from it were party bars, not juicy joints. Polly's Kettle House was full of drunk customers and the place beside it (now yogurt joint?) was a legit bar with pool table. Trans bars were nonexistent, their place was down the hill on the other side of the street.

I also remember what used to be 'Amazon', changed to Tiger Tavern and a girl that was murdered there in February 2000. I remembered meeting her in on New Years night 1999 and paying her for short time. One of the few times back then that I didn't use a condom (I was still young then), she was so distraught that I blew inside her. I felt bad and went back to visit her on a cold Monday in February, when I noticed all the bars were closed and police tape around the Amazon club. The next day I read in Stars and Stripes that a soldier from Munsan came down and choked her to death in a drunken rage. Sad..[/QUOTE]Was there another murder in 2000? I don't remember hearing about that one. I remember one sometime around 2004, when some girl was strangled in that big long bar that had a veranda in the back overlooking Itaewon mainstreet. Also remember one of them got killed in Hilltop Hotel, a few years later.

I once met a very old Korean man in Itaewon (80's. Would be nearing 100 now, but probably dead) who was drinking a beer at Polly's. He told me that "the hill" became "the hill" because in pre-Japan days, it was a potter's field for burial of Koreans with no money. He said that at that time, the entire area was pear trees -- thus the name, Itaewon, which is Pear Tree Town, or some such meaning. Because it was a former graveyard, nobody would make a business there, and the sex industry sprang up around it. Can't remember if he said that was during the Japanese era in the early 1900's or after, when the USA got there, but that's how it got its start, if true. No reason for the old man to lie.

Was by last night, The entire left half is now condemned, except the older Polly's (now the Yogurt ajumma place) and the bars where Beane and Kay are. That block of 3 will be demolished by April 1, also. Not sure why my previous post didn't get put up yet, so Tiffany, Bean's place, and the other right there will all be gone. Not sure if they will also rip down the condemned bars below the hotel, now (eve, Cheers, etc) as that'll be all that's left on that entire side.

Adding a photo. Apparently my phone doesn't interact well with the website.

I will also tell Kgirlpower. You think people didn't shave Bush 20 years ago? We aren't talking about 1970's, here. The hill in the early 2000's was still in its prime, with FAR more attractive women. And boatloads of them changing every weekend. It was candy land. Back in the tail-end of the day when college-age women had a dream of escaping to the USA, and hooking-up with some foreigner in Iteawon was a prime way to do it.

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2279364]Yes SP businesses are far from perfect. The only one happening bar in Seoul isn't available in English [URL]http://www.clubdesire.co.kr/m/main.php[/URL].

I remember BP required a credit card for advertising so it was kinda tricky because of privacy.[/QUOTE]Desire is pretty decent. I liked the chilled atmosphere of the place. After my first 2 visits something has always come up preventing me from returning. When my filipina visited Korea we planned to drop by, but ended up fucking each other to exhaustion LOL.

There was a time when cuckolds used to post in CL and BP for you to come and pound their K-wives. Half of the posts were scammers just looking for dick pics to fap to, but a lot were also genuine couples, though almost all on the wrong side of 40. I wonder where they post these days.

Hi,

I also walked tonight from Seobingo through the Itaewon area and passed the Hill. Oh mine I felt like I'm on time machine or smthg like that. It looks now so similar to abandoned streets in Anjungri. Only a few bar and on upper side, 2 shops like "glass house"s were opened (Laura, XO-a girl with a cute dolly face smiled to me behind the window). Once in my earlier years I had to stay about a month in a place called "Dream gosiwon" down the hill. Had those memories back) and I think the bar you are talking about, moved to the Hamilton's back side on the 2nd floor of a place called Tartini, just saw a paper on the wall. It is not a foreigner-only allowed area there, so guess it will be a regular bar.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2279395]Stopped by and had a talk with some ladies on The Hill, and got some serious news.

Much of the top of the hill is to be demolished by April 1, to make way for more hotel or hostel guest house buildings.

I took a photo of them more condemned buildings, and heard that some of your favorite haunts will also be ripped down, including old Polly's kettle. But if course, this ancient site is not taking it.

Basically everything that is on either side of Polly's, including Avant Garde, Tiffany, and the other in that block, also. Bar J, Forrest, and new Polly's are already boarded up.

They are still there, but this includes where your beloved Kay and friend Bean work. Saw Kay was there tonight.

The mamasan from Tiffany said she is planning to open a bar behind Hamilton somewhere, but is not sure if it will be a bar just for drinks or with girls, or a typical public bar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2279395]Stopped by and had a talk with some ladies on The Hill, and got some serious news.

Much of the top of the hill is to be demolished by April 1, to make way for more hotel or hostel guest house buildings.

I took a photo of them more condemned buildings, and heard that some of your favorite haunts will also be ripped down, including old Polly's kettle. But if course, this ancient site is not taking it.

Basically everything that is on either side of Polly's, including Avant Garde, Tiffany, and the other in that block, also. Bar J, Forrest, and new Polly's are already boarded up.

They are still there, but this includes where your beloved Kay and friend Bean work. Saw Kay was there tonight.

The mamasan from Tiffany said she is planning to open a bar behind Hamilton somewhere, but is not sure if it will be a bar just for drinks or with girls, or a typical public bar.[/QUOTE]Wow. Thanks for the news. That may be why Happy Days already seems to be closed and both Kay and Cherry have moved to Avant Garde. From what you've said it sounds like they'll have to move somewhere else soon.

On Ashley Madison? LOL. There's another one site like BP, Locanto, didn't checked with it for a while.

CL always was like a roulette. I met so many awesome, very nice people through CL and sometimes (very rare though) a total nonsense.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2279750]Desire is pretty decent. I liked the chilled atmosphere of the place. After my first 2 visits something has always come up preventing me from returning. When my filipina visited Korea we planned to drop by, but ended up fucking each other to exhaustion LOL.

There was a time when cuckolds used to post in CL and BP for you to come and pound their K-wives. Half of the posts were scammers just looking for dick pics to fap to, but a lot were also genuine couples, though almost all on the wrong side of 40. I wonder where they post these days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2279454]August 2003, across from Moonshine was 'Rose' (changed to Texas, now boarded up) and I glimpsed the most beautiful Korean girl on the hill. A stunner in a red dress with D size naturals, long curly hair, and a beautiful face. I was smitten and I paid something like $300 or so, just ridiculous amount. I fucked her BB just hoping that she'd get knocked up and marry me. She's continued working on the hill for many years now, friends with Candy at VIP and Tiffany (on the main strip) bar. She's gained some weight, but her face is still beautiful. At the time, though, she was something else. Gorgeous. I would spend quite a bit of coin on her through the years, always a fun time.[/QUOTE]OK, now you have me really curious. I know Candy and but I'm not sure who you are talking about, unless you are talking about the gal who has been at VIP forever that is currently the main renter? She seems pretty quite, but then will burst into a huge laugh. I won't say her name, because that'll get me in trouble. I know her very well (Candy, also). I remember Candy's first week, actually. Candy used to be overweight, when she started, BTW. She lost it, and never gained it back.

Anyway, If that's her, yeah, she was ridiculously exotically hot back in the early 2000's. She was actually the first lady I sat down with in the back, and was offered a BJ from when I first came here. I wasn't sure I wanted to pay it, and left. Was with her many times after that, though. I ended up at the top of the hill in Hobby Horse with a transgender named "Baby", who I didn't figure out was a transgender until after. Horrible story that gives me nightmares. That was my introduction to "the hill."

Do you know the bartender at VIP? That bartender was 10-pro looking material, and is still attractive. One of my biggest regrets is that I didn't pony-up and do her silly, fifteen plus years ago. She was always busy or some such, so I never got the chance. She doesn't do anything but bartend, and hasn't for years, so that ship has sailed. OMG, was she hot, though. Perfect body.

I have spent so many millions of won in Royal / VIP, over the years. I'm trying to think all of the girls I've been with in there. I can't remember them all. The current renter whose name I cannot say, Candy, Giu, Sooyeon, Annie, Sunny, this hot little number who was a golfer that skipped off to England, and those are just a very small few that I can remember.

Man, back in the day, there was so many extremely hot ladies working on "the hill. " Hot and clean. It's really depressing what little is left of it all. You could start at VIP and see 3 gorgeous young hotties (or more) working, then pass Sue at Cheers, the other Sunny and her friend at Dallas, then work your way up past Yongsun, Yumi, and the famous girl (who worked at Eve, later, for many years) at Tiger bar. Then you'd see who was working at the next few bars, and duck past a transgender or two on the way. Pretty soon, you'd reach the smoking hot Ce Ce up at ABC Club.

I remember when Sue started working in what is now the condemned Texas. She later worked at Cheers. She was so unbelievably cute sitting in the window, it was amazing. I still remember her sitting there, in the Cheers window. She still works days at Moonshine, so many years later. She was also something special.

I'll add a couple more pics from back in the day, mostly circa 2002-2005:

1. The first one is this really hot-bodied lady / mamasan who also "worked" at the bar next to Nymph (which is now called O2, I think). She was a really hot body, as you can somewhat tell from the pic in the red pants, covering her face. Got a HJ from her.

2. The next pic is of the infamous Yumi from Tiger, and later one of the bars around Tiffany near where Kaye and Bean now work. Yumi is with some friend who worked there just one winter, before marrying some Japanese guy, or something. I did them both, multiple times. Yumi was hilariously fun.

3. Next is a bartender from old Polly's Kettle, named Nina. She was Mongolian, and before working Polly's was a freelancer who I slept with one of my first weeks in Korea.

4. Next I'll add a pic of some girl that worked at Tiger briefly around 2002. She wasn't there for sex, but just to meet a guy, obviously. We had dinner and went to another city to meet her mother for a weekend (seriously). We had a sort of short-term relationship, but she disappeared after we ended it.

5. Some random transgender that worked at Royal / VIP.

6. Grainy photo of Giu, who used to work at Royal / VIP, and Tiger.

7. Next, there is this very hot half-Japanese girl who worked across from Polly's Kettle. She was so good looking, and I got 3 pops in overnight with her. Oh, she was great.

8. Cee Cee's gorgeous legs. Amazing woman from Taiwan, with great English, wit, and a firebrand in bed.

9. Some girl I don't remember the name of who worked on the hill in a bar between Capital and Tiger. She just talked, mostly. Got a HJ once.

[QUOTE=Lion55;2279818]Wow. Thanks for the news. That may be why Happy Days already seems to be closed and both Kay and Cherry have moved to Avant Garde. From what you've said it sounds like they'll have to move somewhere else soon.[/QUOTE]Could be the end for the famous Bean and Kay. IMO those bars are probably condemned for many years and needed to be torn down.

I would say the girls should just move to another locale, but rent is so expensive in Itaewon that it probably isn't feasible. However, if they're lucky to hold onto one of the few remaining joints, supply and demand will drive up prices.

This Yongsan renovation plan has been quite a few years in the making, not just the Yongsan post but also the growth in Itaewon and down the hill to the river in Seobingo. My wife's parents owned a small lot and house in Seobingo overlooking the river and just recently sold it for $1.5 million. Apartment construction was supposed to occur there several years ago, but that's cooled off now with Moon Jae In in office and now developers are waiting for another good time.

Separately, as far as the girls having large bushes? That wasn't the case, as SeoulSearching pointed out. As posted previously, there were far more bars open between 2000-2010 and a steady rotation of hot K-girls through the hill. Good times, but looks to be the end of an era.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2279900]Could be the end for the famous Bean and Kay. IMO those bars are probably condemned for many years and needed to be torn down.

I would say the girls should just move to another locale, but rent is so expensive in Itaewon that it probably isn't feasible. However, if they're lucky to hold onto one of the few remaining joints, supply and demand will drive up prices.

This Yongsan renovation plan has been quite a few years in the making, not just the Yongsan post but also the growth in Itaewon and down the hill to the river in Seobingo. My wife's parents owned a small lot and house in Seobingo overlooking the river and just recently sold it for $1.5 million. Apartment construction was supposed to occur there several years ago, but that's cooled off now with Moon Jae In in office and now developers are waiting for another good time.

Separately, as far as the girls having large bushes? That wasn't the case, as SeoulSearching pointed out. As posted previously, there were far more bars open between 2000-2010 and a steady rotation of hot K-girls through the hill. Good times, but looks to be the end of an era.[/QUOTE]They should hopefully move south to osan where the base is, and hopefully train a protege or two. Easier said than done in today's climate but it can be done.

It's not like there isn't a plethora of lonely, horny men by the thousands looking to bust a nut every once in a while. Even MR princesses are now adding pyeongtaek to their list of places.

[QUOTE=Jayf1970;2253175]Hi all! I'm a senior member with fairly prolific hobbying adventures but I have toned down significantly. One thing I still do enjoy is a great erotic massage building up to a happy ending (nothing more). I looked thru the Seoul section and it looks pretty dead. Is anything available at all? I get such a good service in this area in the US from Korean providers and I've been disappointed in my pursuits in Seoul. Any help would be much appreciated and I will report back any findings.[/QUOTE]Wondering if you have had any luck finding anything?

I am over 60 now, and it is becoming more difficult for me to do more than talk with the younger / prettier ones. I was never tall, dark, and handsome (more like short, round, and stumpy) but having grey hair isn't making life any easier.

I only get back to Seoul for a few weeks here and there. Spend most of my time outside of Korea.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2279887]OK, now you have me really curious. I know Candy and but I'm not sure who you are talking about, unless you are talking about the gal who has been at VIP forever that is currently the main renter? She seems pretty quite, but then will burst into a huge laugh.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's her. A little bit of pudge now, but still Dee size naturals and pretty face. She'd burst into laughter and it was so contagious, it'd make you laugh, too. She's so much fun, I just enjoyed talking to her and listening to some of her stories- man does she have some! I could write a book from it and it'd be a bestseller.

She told me about one dude that liked getting fucked up the ass with a strap-on. She complained how much work it was cause she wasn't used to thrusting! She went into other detail about threesomes, London bridge with two Russian dudes, pulling dildoes out of dude's asses and how bad it smelled and so forth! Just hilarious stuff from her experiences.

Of course, not always hilarious with dirty dudes, assholes, and downright criminals roaming the hill, but it comes with the territory. As long as we've been on the hill, you get to know quite a few of the girls and can empathize with them.

Candy, her friend, works (or worked) at VIP and also Tiffany's on the main strip. She's funny, too, and has a nice body. I found this funny pic of her from Expat Hell's blog.

As far as the transvestite story, same thing happened to me. It was late morning around 0700 or so and this 'good looking' gal asked me to buy a drink. I thought 'Jim, don't do it, there's something missing, there's fellas dancing and fellas kissing!' Anyway, I took him / her to my room on the hilltop and found out too late it was a post-op! Uggh. Money not well spent. Live and learn.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2280255]Yep, that's her. A little bit of pudge now, but still Dee size naturals and pretty face. She'd burst into laughter and it was so contagious, it'd make you laugh, too. She's so much fun, I just enjoyed talking to her and listening to some of her stories- man does she have some! I could write a book from it and it'd be a bestseller.

She told me about one dude that liked getting fucked up the ass with a strap-on. She complained how much work it was cause she wasn't used to thrusting! She went into other detail about threesomes, London bridge with two Russian dudes, pulling dildoes out of dude's asses and how bad it smelled and so forth! Just hilarious stuff from her experiences.

Of course, not always hilarious with dirty dudes, assholes, and downright criminals roaming the hill, but it comes with the territory. As long as we've been on the hill, you get to know quite a few of the girls and can empathize with them.

Candy, her friend, works (or worked) at VIP and also Tiffany's on the main strip. She's funny, too, and has a nice body. I found this funny pic of her from Expat Hell's blog..[/QUOTE]Oh that pic! Happy Parent's Day? Priceless!

Thanks for posting that. I'm going to have to go see if I can dig up the original from that blog. Is it recent?

There was a bit of fight and blog was closed about 4 years ago. Here is archived version.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2280267]Oh that pic! Happy Parent's Day? Priceless!

Thanks for posting that. I'm going to have to go see if I can dig up the original from that blog. Is it recent?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2280267]Oh that pic! Happy Parent's Day? Priceless!

Thanks for posting that. I'm going to have to go see if I can dig up the original from that blog. Is it recent?[/QUOTE]That pic is from a few years back, 2014 or so. The blog isn't around anymore, he ran it for 10 years or so and shut it down in the last year.

Leah and Garthie, and idea in a month / date for that? I have found the blog. Links are deleted. Thanks.

First time in Seoul and first time in S. Korea.

Friday around 7:30 pm we went to Cheon-ho (cheon-ho station exit3), only 12/15 windows open, not much beauty around, only 3 girls called us, but they looked old and ugly, also asked for 100.000 krw, no thanks, we did not try to bargain the price down.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwAJjUaoqZs[/URL]

Saturday went to Hooker Hill (itaewon station exit 3), tried a couple of bar like Avant Garde and VIP both places have 3/4 ladies only, all were over 40 yo and asked for 200.000 krw LOL, WTF! No thanks again, perhaps they tried to scam us? LOL.

Sunday around 6:30 pm we went to Gireum Station (exit 10), and find a small and dark alley in front.

The alleys are very dark, all doors are closed and have bench outside, only few mamasan sit outside, no other customer apart us, the place seems dead.

Almost all mamasan ignored us, we checked a couple of brothels then finally we got lucky and found a brothel with 2 nice girls.

Mamasan asked 100.000 krw but come down at 80.000.

My friend picked the young one, bad choice for him, she asked 20.000 tip for BBBJ, with this tip BBFS / CIP was also included.

My girl was around 35 yo with slim body.

Took off our shoes, paid the mama then go downstair. Tiny rooms but not looks dirty.

The girl went to take her stuff and back in the room naked. Slim body, small boobs, no baby damage, nice ass, hairy pussy. I was already naked too waiting for her.

She put a bit of lube in her pussy, clean my cock with some wet wipes and gave me a quick BBBJ, not bad but she was in hurry to put the condom and move to the sex.

Fuck mish then doggy, she was very mechanical with alot of fake moans, anyway she have a nice ass and let me fuck her pussy hard. Cum in the dom while I fucked.

She clean me quickly and bye bye.

Finally I had sex in Korea. Worth it? No, but I'm happy that I visit a new country and checked the RLDs.

There's 2 ways, 1st download the picture and put it on Google reverse images search, you will get a lot of relevant pictures and blogs. Originally it was taken by one French photographer in 2004. Another way is to put "expathell" on the way back machine, which is a virtual storage for archived sources. Since it is "Parent's day", try to check all posts for June and July. Mostly links are working. Only a few links got a plug on it.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2280553]Leah and Garthie, and idea in a month / date for that? I have found the blog. Links are deleted. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

At Christian G.

Finally some new current info! Great post man.

Seems like everyone here just wants to reminisce and talk about their experiences from 10.20 years ago. Sheesh.

[QUOTE=Wolfpack23;2281128]At Christian G.

Finally some new current info! Great post man.

Seems like everyone here just wants to reminisce and talk about their experiences from 10.20 years ago. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]Wow, a full 2 posts, and you're already complaining about the people here who have experience and know where things are. Yeah, we're going to be tripping over ourselves to give you advice.

Usually, this forum just sits here with not much posted.

There just isn't much excitement in Korea, anymore. It's overpriced, stuck-up, and boring.

[QUOTE=Wolfpack23;2281128]Seems like everyone here just wants to reminisce and talk about their experiences from 10.20 years ago. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]All this site talks about now are online escorts from MR and independents. No more posts about this girl from RLD or that girl from the hill. Old timers just can't bear the thought of getting hosed paying 500,000 won. Any number of RLD's in Yongjugol, Dongducheon, Miari, or even Hooker Hill can do it for a fraction.

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2281064]Another way is to put "expathell" on the way back machine, which is a virtual storage for archived sources.[/QUOTE]

You can pull it up from the way back machine. Last post was 2017. Ran from 2011-2017, pretty funny blog and cynical of silly things foreigners experience in Korea. Unfortunate that he stopped blogging, but like the hill, all things must end.

By the way, see this video and go about 3 minutes in for a look at the heyday on the Hill, early 2000's. It was this busy most every night. And you'll see a lot of the girls working there.

I remember several of them.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=27jd5f-aeP4[/URL]

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2281619]By the way, see this video and go about 3 minutes in for a look at the heyday on the Hill, early 2000's. It was this busy most every night. And you'll see a lot of the girls working there.

I remember several of them.

[/QUOTE]Woof. Korean women don't like being filmed without consent, most don't want family or friends to know they're sucking dick for a living. Others, not so much.

Didn't recognize any of the girls, but I didn't frequent the hill with regularity until the second time I came, in 2003. In 2000, we had to have passes to come down from Dongducheon, even for a day. Besides, it was so readily available there outside post that you didn't need to go elsewhere.

Just wanted to update that I did find the larger version of that photo. Thanks for all your help, guys. A google image search eventually got me there.

Its amazing what's out there if have some korean language skils.

I've been checking out that website opstar that one fat chick's massage friend linked and it miracously isn't blocked by korean firewall so without vpn you can access everything. And so you can searh by handjob places, blow job places, FS, massage FS places, massage BJ only places, offietels, outcall hoes, incall hoes. And prices at your level ie. 50 to 250 bucks depending on the location like gangnam or other areas like hongdae etc.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2281592]Wow, a full 2 posts, and you're already complaining about the people here who have experience and know where things are. Yeah, we're going to be tripping over ourselves to give you advice.

Usually, this forum just sits here with not much posted.

There just isn't much excitement in Korea, anymore. It's overpriced, stuck-up, and boring.[/QUOTE]

Any country you goto its always total dumps with the over the hill grannies, fatties, or young chicks who are country bumpkins. Usually no showers, disgusiting bed with wet spots from some other dudes semen or sweat, chicks with dried up leftover dried up semen and spit on their bodies and pussies since only wiped it with a towel or KFC wetnapes. Gross! First time I went I vomited out of disgust and felt violated. Left and never went back to those literal shit holes.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2281042]First time in Seoul and first time in S. Korea.

Friday around 7:30 pm we went to Cheon-ho (cheon-ho station exit3), only 12/15 windows open, not much beauty around, only 3 girls called us, but they looked old and ugly, also asked for 100.000 krw, no thanks, we did not try to bargain the price down.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwAJjUaoqZs[/URL]

Saturday went to Hooker Hill (itaewon station exit 3), tried a couple of bar like Avant Garde and VIP both places have 3/4 ladies only, all were over 40 yo and asked for 200.000 krw LOL, WTF! No thanks again, perhaps they tried to scam us? LOL.

Sunday around 6:30 pm we went to Gireum Station (exit 10), and find a small and dark alley in front.

The alleys are very dark, all doors are closed and have bench outside, only few mamasan sit outside, no other customer apart us, the place seems dead.

Almost all mamasan ignored us, we checked a couple of brothels then finally we got lucky and found a brothel with 2 nice girls.

Mamasan asked 100.000 krw but come down at 80.000.

My friend picked the young one, bad choice for him, she asked 20.000 tip for BBBJ, with this tip BBFS / CIP was also included.

My girl was around 35 yo with slim body.

Took off our shoes, paid the mama then go downstair. Tiny rooms but not looks dirty.

The girl went to take her stuff and back in the room naked. Slim body, small boobs, no baby damage, nice ass, hairy pussy. I was already naked too waiting for her.

She put a bit of lube in her pussy, clean my cock with some wet wipes and gave me a quick BBBJ, not bad but she was in hurry to put the condom and move to the sex.

Fuck mish then doggy, she was very mechanical with alot of fake moans, anyway she have a nice ass and let me fuck her pussy hard. Cum in the dom while I fucked.

She clean me quickly and bye bye.

Finally I had sex in Korea. Worth it? No, but I'm happy that I visit a new country and checked the RLDs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2282095]Any country you goto its always total dumps with the over the hill grannies, fatties, or young chicks who are country bumpkins. Usually no showers, disgusiting bed with wet spots from some other dudes semen or sweat, chicks with dried up leftover dried up semen and spit on their bodies and pussies since only wiped it with a towel or KFC wetnapes. Gross! First time I went I vomited out of disgust and felt violated. Left and never went back to those literal shit holes.[/QUOTE]As opposed to paying some SE Asian girl 300 bucks for a pop when she would be charging you a tenth of that (for multiple pops) in her own country, which you could probably travel to for less than 300 bucks? Or dropping 300 plus motel fee and an additional taxi fee for a girl who'll be 2-3 hrs late anyway? What about dropping 300 bucks for CBJ and CFS? Or perhaps paying some guy 150-180 bucks (because that's his cut) for introducing you to that little spinner who'll be gone in 30-40 minutes anyway?

I imagine most mongerers aren't there to marvel at the decor when we visit RLDs, our attention is strictly elsewhere. Joints in Cheonho require you to shower before and after service, aim Miari it's oprional, but they will let you shower if you wish, same as on the hill and in Suwon.

What is the interest in places like the hill? You can pick who you want, the price is better, and if you don't like someone, you can walk away without having spent anything.

Agencies put up fake photos and charge the moon, only to deliver something you may not want. Then what? Pay your hard-earned cash and "take one for the team?

No thanks!

And for me, picking some hoe out of a lineup, who is on the clock and whom I have a limited ability to converse with (if she is even willing to) is as mechanical as a Swedish suck machine.

At least on the hill, they speak a fair amount of English.

One fat chick's massage friend also told me, be careful of shady places with illegal Thai or Chinese (it is raid period to 3.31), especially the ones with double barber pole on entrance side.

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2282094]Its amazing what's out there if have some korean language skils.

I've been checking out that website opstar that one fat chick's massage friend linked and it miracously isn't blocked by korean firewall so without vpn you can access everything. And so you can searh by handjob places, blow job places, FS, massage FS places, massage BJ only places, offietels, outcall hoes, incall hoes. And prices at your level ie. 50 to 250 bucks depending on the location like gangnam or other areas like hongdae etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2282095]Any country you goto its always total dumps with the over the hill grannies, fatties, or young chicks who are country bumpkins. Usually no showers, disgusiting bed with wet spots from some other dudes semen or sweat, chicks with dried up leftover dried up semen and spit on their bodies and pussies since only wiped it with a towel or KFC wetnapes. Gross! First time I went I vomited out of disgust and felt violated. Left and never went back to those literal shit holes.[/QUOTE]What a stupid and useless post you wrote. Find a hobby if you don't know how to spend your time. I don't travel 10.000 km to pay 300 USD for a shitty service, I live in Europe and I can have young south american pussy for 50 euro and no holes barred, I can have 20 yo stunning east european girls for 50 in FKK or for less.

I went to S. Korea (and is better I don't post what I think about your country) for sightseening and was curious about RLD, I just tried. Sure I'll never go back to this country. If I want a sex holiday in Asia I just go to Thailand as usual. Now I'm Japan, next month I'll be in Cuba and between 3 months in Thai and Singapore, so I'm busy and I don't have more time to waste with you.

If you don't like my post just don't read, I don't give a fuck to your stupid opinion. You won the ignored listed, idiot.

I haven't gotten close to the rip offs you seem to have had to feel that jaded. I've probabbly banged over a 1,000 girls in my carrier and I can honestly only remember 3 who were rip offs. One was a female version of jabba the hut compared to her ad pic, one looked old enough to make queen elizabeth look young compared to her ad pic, and one where I had bigger boobs then her compared to her ad pic.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2282165]As opposed to paying some SE Asian girl 300 bucks for a pop when she would be charging you a tenth of that (for multiple pops) in her own country, which you could probably travel to for less than 300 bucks? Or dropping 300 plus motel fee and an additional taxi fee for a girl who'll be 2-3 hrs late anyway? What about dropping 300 bucks for CBJ and CFS? Or perhaps paying some guy 150-180 bucks (because that's his cut) for introducing you to that little spinner who'll be gone in 30-40 minutes anyway?

I imagine most mongerers aren't there to marvel at the decor when we visit RLDs, our attention is strictly elsewhere. Joints in Cheonho require you to shower before and after service, aim Miari it's oprional, but they will let you shower if you wish, same as on the hill and in Suwon.[/QUOTE]

Same back in the US. Most clients and the kgirl can't communicate so its all about the service and to the point of being a repetitius mechanical routine. I often get feedback from guys who talk about a girl saying how cute or innocent the girl is because of the silence and cute smiles etc. When in reality the girl is foul mouthed and smart asses who think the Us clients are dumb asses and easy marks when you can communicate with them in their language.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2282175]What is the interest in places like the hill? You can pick who you want, the price is better, and if you don't like someone, you can walk away without having spent anything.

Agencies put up fake photos and charge the moon, only to deliver something you may not want. Then what? Pay your hard-earned cash and "take one for the team?

No thanks!

And for me, picking some hoe out of a lineup, who is on the clock and whom I have a limited ability to converse with (if she is even willing to) is as mechanical as a Swedish suck machine.

At least on the hill, they speak a fair amount of English.[/QUOTE]

My man, I wasn't trying to insult you like I was telling you your some dumb retard for checking out RLDs. It was a just question and observation to you and other RLD visitors on why visit them when they are so filthy. Makes no sense cause I find no benefits whatsover other then being cheap. And Korea is not my country so I could care less what you think about it. LOL.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2282356]What a stupid and useless post you wrote. Find a hobby if you don't know how to spend your time. I don't travel 10.000 km to pay 300 USD for a shitty service, I live in Europe and I can have young south american pussy for 50 euro and no holes barred, I can have 20 yo stunning east european girls for 50 in FKK or for less.

I went to S. Korea (and is better I don't post what I think about your country) for sightseening and was curious about RLD, I just tried. Sure I'll never go back to this country. If I want a sex holiday in Asia I just go to Thailand as usual. Now I'm Japan, next month I'll be in Cuba and between 3 months in Thai and Singapore, so I'm busy and I don't have more time to waste with you.

If you don't like my post just don't read, I don't give a fuck to your stupid opinion. You won the ignored listed, idiot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2282487]I haven't gotten close to the rip offs you seem to have had to feel that jaded. I've probabbly banged over a 1,000 girls in my carrier and I can honestly only remember 3 who were rip offs. One was a female version of jabba the hut compared to her ad pic, one looked old enough to make queen elizabeth look young compared to her ad pic, and one where I had bigger boobs then her compared to her ad pic.[/QUOTE]You're not getting it.

95% of postings on MR (and backpage before it) are ripoffs. And you didn't even bother to address the things I actually stated, because they're accurate to the bone. Why should I pay 300+ for one pop? Give me a legitimate reason why that sounds like a good idea. If you think paying 300+ is ok just so you can fuck on a clean, cum-free bed, in a cum-free room, man have I got some things to tell you about motels in Korea and their housekeeping practices!

Have you ever wondered why so many postings on MR are pictures of women from SE Asia? It is relatively cheap and easy for them to get here. $1000 will get them return flights, acommodation and food for 1-2 weeks (maybe even 3 weeks). And then gullible mongerers like you line up to pay 300 a pop (haha!) for something you can get for a fraction of the price IF you just used your imagination a tiny bit. Only takes them a day or two to break even. These women are here selling snow to eskimos, and you're the Eskimo.

Let's say you have a K-fetish and are intent on getting K-Pussy no matter what. If you live in the country, it only takes a few weeks / months of language classes before you should be able to navigate the endless local sites advertising everything from BBBJ-CIM for 40 bucks, to relay services (2 pops, 2 different girls) for 150-200, to all kinds that are on offer for much less than 300+ a pop. Sure, not all establishments will entertain you as a foreigner, but plenty will. But noooo, gullible Eskimo here wants to buy snow at a premium price from scammers literally digging that snow right in front of his eyes!

Ok, you don't live in Korea, you're just visiting and don't speak a lick of the language. You're SOL visiting a country so difficult to find quality and VFM P4 P in. Heck, even K-guys are flooding SE Asia in their thousands by the hour looking for poon that won’t cost an arm and a leg. And these guys weren’t even paying 300+ per pop in their country (more like 80-150)! Best to follow in their footsteps and do the same. Or you could shell out 300+ for sub-par service from that same SE Asian girl you would've poked in Bangkok / Manila / Bali / Pattaya for 30 bucks ST or 50 overnight.

But what do I know?

And then you know what the fucked up irony in all this is?

The SE Asian girls coming here aren't charging koreans 300+ per shot. Mind you, most of them don’t get bites from korean customers, because why would they? Ice...Eskimo.

But for the ones that do get the occasional bite, Koreans are paying half or less FOR THE SAME GIRLS you’re forking out 300+ for LOL! So you can't even use the languge excuse here. But you're supposed to be happy getting scammed because of your gullibility?

You don't seem to understand what I'm saying.

Like I mentioned its the perspective. You keep arguing you can get cheap pussy but dumb ignorant schmucks. Ie your eskimos are paying 300 and getting rip offed. But if you are used to paying 300 and that's all you know its not a rip off. Its like koreans buying a Armani exchange t shirt in Korea. Where armani charges 50 bucks for it while me in america are used to paying 20 bucks since that's what armani charges in the US so to koreans they don't think its a rip off since that's the normal price in Korea while me who is used to paying 20 in US think koreans are morons for paying 50.

But end of the day whatever the price. Ie a 50 buck vietnamese chick or 300 korean chick if the girl isn't hot but some fat jabba hutt mutated fatso then whatever the price the guy pays he is a dumbshit eskimo.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2282558]You're not getting it.

95% of postings on MR (and backpage before it) are ripoffs. And you didn't even bother to address the things I actually stated, because they're accurate to the bone. Why should I pay 300+ for one pop? Give me a legitimate reason why that sounds like a good idea. If you think paying 300+ is ok just so you can fuck on a clean, cum-free bed, in a cum-free room, man have I got some things to tell you about motels in Korea and their housekeeping practices!

Have you ever wondered why so many postings on MR are pictures of women from SE Asia? It is relatively cheap and easy for them to get here. $1000 will get them return flights, acommodation and food for 1-2 weeks (maybe even 3 weeks). And then gullible mongerers like you line up to pay 300 a pop (haha!) for something you can get for a fraction of the price IF you just used your imagination a tiny bit. Only takes them a day or two to break even. These women are here selling snow to eskimos, and you're the Eskimo.

Let's say you have a K-fetish and are intent on getting K-Pussy no matter what. If you live in the country, it only takes a few weeks / months of language classes before you should be able to navigate the endless local sites advertising everything from BBBJ-CIM for 40 bucks, to relay services (2 pops, 2 different girls) for 150-200, to all kinds that are on offer for much less than 300+ a pop. Sure, not all establishments will entertain you as a foreigner, but plenty will. But noooo, gullible Eskimo here wants to buy snow at a premium price from scammers literally digging that snow right in front of his eyes!

Ok, you don't live in Korea, you're just visiting and don't speak a lick of the language. You're SOL visiting a country so difficult to find quality and VFM P4 P in. Heck, even K-guys are flooding SE Asia in their thousands by the hour looking for poon that wont cost an arm and a leg. And these guys werent even paying 300+ per pop in their country (more like 80-150)! Best to follow in their footsteps and do the same. Or you could shell out 300+ for sub-par service from that same SE Asian girl you would've poked in Bangkok / Manila / Bali / Pattaya for 30 bucks ST or 50 overnight.

But what do I know?[/QUOTE]

I see them all over. But while I like a good handjob etc I also want a good deep tissue masssage. Do these places usually give good massage like you?

Also, sometimes I see service called "regular massage" and "aroma massage" or "sports massage" what is the difference between them?

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2282209]One fat chick's massage friend also told me, be careful of shady places with illegal Thai or Chinese (it is raid period to 3.31), especially the ones with double barber pole on entrance side.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2282945]You don't seem to understand what I'm saying.

Like I mentioned its the perspective. You keep arguing you can get cheap pussy but dumb ignorant schmucks. Ie your eskimos are paying 300 and getting rip offed. But if you are used to paying 300 and that's all you know its not a rip off. Its like koreans buying a Armani exchange t shirt in Korea. Where armani charges 50 bucks for it while me in america are used to paying 20 bucks since that's what armani charges in the US so to koreans they don't think its a rip off since that's the normal price in Korea while me who is used to paying 20 in US think koreans are morons for paying 50.

But end of the day whatever the price. Ie a 50 buck vietnamese chick or 300 korean chick if the girl isn't hot but some fat jabba hutt mutated fatso then whatever the price the guy pays he is a dumbshit eskimo.[/QUOTE]You're comparing sand and snow and arguing since snow costs a premium in the desert, sand should also cost a premium in the desert too. Not only that, you then travel to a snowy place and insist since you're not used to getting snow at regular snowy-place prices, it must be mentally ok for you to pay desert prices for snow, even though you're already standing in 10 feet of snow in the snowy place.

Now, the local snow vendors have seen this and are thinking 'fuck me silly, it's Christmas in February! And they flock to sell you the same snow other locals buy at half price, but for you they'll give you a special deal of DOUBLE PRICE.

Not only that, they sell you the worst kind of snow, the kind that looks ok, but only lasts 30 mins once you open the packaging. Essentially the snow nobody wants. While locals get the kind of snow that not only looks better but tastes better and lasts longer, for half the price you're paying for your shitty snow.

Even worse, the locals aren't even giving you local snow! They're importing shitty snow from an even snowier place for pennies, and are then selling you that shitty snow for a premium price. Other locals have caught on, and have realised they can actually get better snow by going to that extremely snowy place while spending considerably less (remember, they were already spending half as much than you originally).

But to you, it doesn't matter, because you're from the desert. And desert prices are the guideline you should strictly adhere to wherever you go. Heck, you should even pay desert prices for water while sailing the Amazon! Better still, adhere to desert prices when buying leaves from the rainforest.

In my eyes, it is not a proper etiquette to discuss another provider on public and telling others how wonderful I am, so no comment to the places you are used to. All I care about, is why I can post all kinds of different stuffs but can't share my own website's link. That's sad.

If you're curious about massage types, Google it.

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2282949]I see them all over. But while I like a good handjob etc I also want a good deep tissue masssage. Do these places usually give good massage like you?

Also, sometimes I see service called "regular massage" and "aroma massage" or "sports massage" what is the difference between them?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RainMania;2282998]Even worse, the locals aren't even giving you local snow! They're importing shitty snow from an even snowier place for pennies, and are then selling you that shitty snow for a premium price. Other locals have caught on, and have realised they can actually get better snow by going to that extremely snowy place while spending considerably less (remember, they were already spending half as much than you originally).[/QUOTE]Absolutely spot on.

Wow, the entire side of Itaewon, from the police station to the fire department (excluding Starbucks and the corner building and FD is being condemned. Major face lift for main Street.

Right now, outside of Itaewon (and that's just about dead), I would suggest seoul-massage. Kr for good service. In Itaewon, there is a bar up at the top of the hill, and right of the motel about 50 m that has some real young hotties working in there. I know some of you guys are a fan of Bean and her crew, but I don't have the time for Miss Midget, the fat floppy-boob chick, or the one with bad teeth some of you like. And that's OK. More time for you. More of my money is going to Korean providers that also allow waygooks. Have no time for the ridiculous 200 k an hour + services, either.

Damn man. Based on your logic. All the guys in US, Korea, vietman, thailand and you are dumpshit eskimos because theres some black ho banger in Ethiopia langhing at us because he knows he can bang some chicks for 2 cents! And then here's some tribesman in the Amazon jungle thinking we are all retards because he can bang a hot chick walking around naked with a basket of wild berries for payment!

What part of the armani example you not understand!

[QUOTE=RainMania;2282998]You're comparing sand and snow and arguing since snow costs a premium in the desert, sand should also cost a premium in the desert too. Not only that, you then travel to a snowy place and insist since you're not used to getting snow at regular snowy-place prices, it must be mentally ok for you to pay desert prices for snow, even though you're already standing in 10 feet of snow in the snowy place.

Now, the local snow vendors have seen this and are thinking 'fuck me silly, it's Christmas in February! And they flock to sell you the same snow other locals buy at half price, but for you they'll give you a special deal of DOUBLE PRICE.

Not only that, they sell you the worst kind of snow, the kind that looks ok, but only lasts 30 mins once you open the packaging. Essentially the snow nobody wants. While locals get the kind of snow that not only looks better but tastes better and lasts longer, for half the price you're paying for your shitty snow.

Even worse, the locals aren't even giving you local snow! They're importing shitty snow from an even snowier place for pennies, and are then selling you that shitty snow for a premium price. Other locals have caught on, and have realised they can actually get better snow by going to that extremely snowy place while spending considerably less (remember, they were already spending half as much than you originally).

But to you, it doesn't matter, because you're from the desert. And desert prices are the guideline you should strictly adhere to wherever you go. Heck, you should even pay desert prices for water while sailing the Amazon! Better still, adhere to desert prices when buying leaves from the rainforest.[/QUOTE]

English definition I already know. But alot of massage services in Korea has these: "Jun. Tong massage" in korean hangul which google translates to "regular massage". So hows this different from aroma? I know aroma has oil so is "Jun. Tong massage" just no oil?

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2283060]In my eyes, it is not a proper etiquette to discuss another provider on public and telling others how wonderful I am, so no comment to the places you are used to. All I care about, is why I can post all kinds of different stuffs but can't share my own website's link. That's sad.

If you're curious about massage types, Google it.[/QUOTE]

Got a error message saying you don't accept pms.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2283266]Wow, the entire side of Itaewon, from the police station to the fire department (excluding Starbucks and the corner building and FD is being condemned. Major face lift for main Street.

Right now, outside of Itaewon (and that's just about dead), I would suggest seoul-massage. Kr for good service. In Itaewon, there is a bar up at the top of the hill, and right of the motel about 50 m that has some real young hotties working in there. I know some of you guys are a fan of Bean and her crew, but I don't have the time for Miss Midget, the fat floppy-boob chick, or the one with bad teeth some of you like. And that's OK. More time for you. More of my money is going to Korean providers that also allow waygooks. Have no time for the ridiculous 200 k an hour + services, either.[/QUOTE]

If these are the quality of the ladies back in the days that you and Rainmania are always harping how good and cheap they were. Excpet 1 mamasan since can't see her face or clear view of her body, I rather jerk off.

If these girls were in the US they starve to death from no business. You guys need to see US kgirls in cities like SF, DC, LA and see what 300 gets you there. You might kill yourself on all the money you flushed down the toilet.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2279887]OK, now you have me really curious. I know Candy and but I'm not sure who you are talking about, unless you are talking about the gal who has been at VIP forever that is currently the main renter? She seems pretty quite, but then will burst into a huge laugh. I won't say her name, because that'll get me in trouble. I know her very well (Candy, also). I remember Candy's first week, actually. Candy used to be overweight, when she started, BTW. She lost it, and never gained it back.

Anyway, If that's her, yeah, she was ridiculously exotically hot back in the early 2000's. She was actually the first lady I sat down with in the back, and was offered a BJ from when I first came here. I wasn't sure I wanted to pay it, and left. Was with her many times after that, though. I ended up at the top of the hill in Hobby Horse with a transgender named "Baby", who I didn't figure out was a transgender until after. Horrible story that gives me nightmares. That was my introduction to "the hill."

Do you know the bartender at VIP? That bartender was 10-pro looking material, and is still attractive. One of my biggest regrets is that I didn't pony-up and do her silly, fifteen plus years ago. She was always busy or some such, so I never got the chance. She doesn't do anything but bartend, and hasn't for years, so that ship has sailed. OMG, was she hot, though. Perfect body.

I have spent so many millions of won in Royal / VIP, over the years. I'm trying to think all of the girls I've been with in there. I can't remember them all. The current renter whose name I cannot say, Candy, Giu, Sooyeon, Annie, Sunny, this hot little number who was a golfer that skipped off to England, and those are just a very small few that I can remember.

Man, back in the day, there was so many extremely hot ladies working on "the hill. " Hot and clean. It's really depressing what little is left of it all. You could start at VIP and see 3 gorgeous young hotties (or more) working, then pass Sue at Cheers, the other Sunny and her friend at Dallas, then work your way up past Yongsun, Yumi, and the famous girl (who worked at Eve, later, for many years) at Tiger bar. Then you'd see who was working at the next few bars, and duck past a transgender or two on the way. Pretty soon, you'd reach the smoking hot Ce Ce up at ABC Club.

I remember when Sue started working in what is now the condemned Texas. She later worked at Cheers. She was so unbelievably cute sitting in the window, it was amazing. I still remember her sitting there, in the Cheers window. She still works days at Moonshine, so many years later. She was also something special.

I'll add a couple more pics from back in the day, mostly circa 2002-2005:

1. The first one is this really hot-bodied lady / mamasan who also "worked" at the bar next to Nymph (which is now called O2, I think). She was a really hot body, as you can somewhat tell from the pic in the red pants, covering her face. Got a HJ from her.

2. The next pic is of the infamous Yumi from Tiger, and later one of the bars around Tiffany near where Kaye and Bean now work. Yumi is with some friend who worked there just one winter, before marrying some Japanese guy, or something. I did them both, multiple times. Yumi was hilariously fun.

3. Next is a bartender from old Polly's Kettle, named Nina. She was Mongolian, and before working Polly's was a freelancer who I slept with one of my first weeks in Korea.

4. Next I'll add a pic of some girl that worked at Tiger briefly around 2002. She wasn't there for sex, but just to meet a guy, obviously. We had dinner and went to another city to meet her mother for a weekend (seriously). We had a sort of short-term relationship, but she disappeared after we ended it.

5. Some random transgender that worked at Royal / VIP.

6. Grainy photo of Giu, who used to work at Royal / VIP, and Tiger.

7. Next, there is this very hot half-Japanese girl who worked across from Polly's Kettle. She was so good looking, and I got 3 pops in overnight with her. Oh, she was great.

8. Cee Cee's gorgeous legs. Amazing woman from Taiwan, with great English, wit, and a firebrand in bed.

9. Some girl I don't remember the name of who worked on the hill in a bar between Capital and Tiger. She just talked, mostly. Got a HJ once.[/QUOTE]

I wanted to ask about your service and the options you mentioned. Can you PM me with more detail about your session. I can recieve but just can't reply.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2283060]In my eyes, it is not a proper etiquette to discuss another provider on public and telling others how wonderful I am, so no comment to the places you are used to. All I care about, is why I can post all kinds of different stuffs but can't share my own website's link. That's sad.

If you're curious about massage types, Google it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2283376]Got a error message saying you don't accept pms.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I am not currently a paying member. Will top-up as soon as I pick up one of those disposable credit cards, though.

I think the type of business you are looking for is going to be the lady at seoul-massage dot kr in Seoul (it has a dash between the words). I think you will get your monies worth from that high-quality massage, with a loving set of hands that will take you to the moon.

In aroma they'll ask you undress, because of oil.

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2283374]English definition I already know. But alot of massage services in Korea has these: "Jun. Tong massage" in korean hangul which google translates to "regular massage". So hows this different from aroma? I know aroma has oil so is "Jun. Tong massage" just no oil?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2282487]I've probabbly banged over a 1,000 girls in my carrier.[/QUOTE]But you can't afford a $20 membership? LOL.

Not that anything I post here or anywhere is fact but are just purely for entertainment purposes and chance for an actual event is purely coincedance. Just want to state that disclaimer first.

So getting back to the pay for memebership. I don't like giving any info such as credit card, or money order, or anything. Even if crypto currency where something could be tied that I paid for membership at a sex site. Call me paranoid.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2283509]But you can't afford a $20 membership? LOL.[/QUOTE]

And only to another senior member or paid member and not a regular member.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2283431]Sorry, I am not currently a paying member. Will top-up as soon as I pick up one of those disposable credit cards, though.

I think the type of business you are looking for is going to be the lady at seoul-massage dot kr in Seoul (it has a dash between the words). I think you will get your monies worth from that high-quality massage, with a loving set of hands that will take you to the moon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2283372]Damn man. Based on your logic. All the guys in US, Korea, vietman, thailand and you are dumpshit eskimos because theres some black ho banger in Ethiopia langhing at us because he knows he can bang some chicks for 2 cents! And then here's some tribesman in the Amazon jungle thinking we are all retards because he can bang a hot chick walking around naked with a basket of wild berries for payment!

What part of the armani example you not understand![/QUOTE]The perception? Haha! I think you mean the delusion.

That's why it's so easy to scam Johns like you, as long as you're tricked into thinking you're getting a good deal then it's all good.

Sounds like you spend too much time thinking with the little head and not the big one. I've run out of analogies to explain why it's not a good idea to fork out a weekend's worth of poon for 30 mins of action. Especially when you can literally fly there (for the same money) in literally the time it takes a train to go from Seoul to Busan.

This is the last reply I'll be posting on this topic. As long as you're happy with your delusions, so be it. But when the penny starts to drop, remember I told you so.

And see what I'm missing!!

[QUOTE=RainMania;2283848]The perception? Haha! I think you mean the delusion.

That's why it's so easy to scam Johns like you, as long as you're tricked into thinking you're getting a good deal then it's all good.

Sounds like you spend too much time thinking with the little head and not the big one. I've run out of analogies to explain why it's not a good idea to fork out a weekend's worth of poon for 30 mins of action. Especially when you can literally fly there (for the same money) in literally the time it takes a train to go from Seoul to Busan.

This is the last reply I'll be posting on this topic. As long as you're happy with your delusions, so be it. But when the penny starts to drop, remember I told you so.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2282356] I can have 20 yo stunning east european girls for 50 in FKK or for less.[/QUOTE]FKK Stuttgart. And how. The only shitty thing is that you need to wear condoms there, don't think I would trust them otherwise.

Korean girls on the other hand? I go out of my way to blow up in them, so why I like them so much.

I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.

Here's her instagram: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana[/URL].

If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.

Any info if she's a hooker?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2283848]The perception? Haha! I think you mean the delusion.

That's why it's so easy to scam Johns like you, as long as you're tricked into thinking you're getting a good deal then it's all good.

Sounds like you spend too much time thinking with the little head and not the big one. I've run out of analogies to explain why it's not a good idea to fork out a weekend's worth of poon for 30 mins of action. Especially when you can literally fly there (for the same money) in literally the time it takes a train to go from Seoul to Busan.

This is the last reply I'll be posting on this topic. As long as you're happy with your delusions, so be it. But when the penny starts to drop, remember I told you so.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2284954]I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.

Here's her instagram: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana[/URL].

If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.

Any info if she's a hooker?[/QUOTE]Pointless adventure IMO. She would be asking for korean (foreigner) rates, IF she's hooking at all. Boracay is one of the worst options in the country for tourist P4 P, especially since the shutdown and subsequent reopening. Better to check out Cebu if you want better chances of poon with your time at the beach.

There are infinitely better looking filipina girls on IG that will spend the night with you for anything from 50-500 k won. But IG is one of the more expensive methods of doing it. Tinder, tagged, MeetMe, WeChat, FilipinoCupid, DateinAsia and PinaLove will yield thousands of readily available women in any age range you want. Look up the Philippines section of this site for tips and etiquette.

And when you're on ground (in Cebu or any major city), nightclubs will have plenty, and I mean PLENTY of available freelancers ranging from 3's to absolute 9/10's. Cost will be 1000 - 3000 pesos (outside Manila) all night depending on you, the girl and other circumstances.

You'll have much better options in Angeles city and Manila. The former is essentially a fully functioning equivalent of the itaewon of the past. Probably 100 bars or more and thousands of hookers concentrated in a few blocks, barely a 20 mins drive from the airport. Average range is 5-8 on the looks scale. Koreans all but run the town when it comes to the best girls these days, but the beauty of it is most of these girls know how to play the game, money talks bullshit walks. Some will have an exclusive preference for k-guys, but most don't care (I'm talking about the hot ones). You can do it old school by walking into the bars and barfining, or the lazy way by using online dating site methods, or by hitting the big club (high society) at night to party and pick up freelancers.

Manila on the other hand is more spread out, with the highest quality bar girls in P Burgos street in Makati, followed by ESDA Complex about an hour away. There are also plenty of nightclubs (Royal, ZZXYZ, Exclusiv, XYLO etc) with girls that will blow away almost anything you'll encounter in Korea, and yes plenty will be available for P4 P, but at steeper prices of 3 k to 10 k pesos all night, again depends on you and circumstances. You might think I'm exaggerating on how hot these Manila club girls are, but you'll have to see it to believe it. Plenty will be willing to go home with you for no cost, just like anywhere else you’ll need game but not necessarily looks (but looks so help lol). Even if I take a freebie back to my hotel, I always slip my standard 2-3k pesos into their purse or jeans in the morning.

Plenty of scamming going on in the Philippines so you'll need to have your wits about you. Be warned, Once you take the plunge, it absolutely WILL ruin Korea for you LOL.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2285036]

Manila on the other hand is more spread out, with the highest quality bar girls in P Burgos street in Makati, followed by ESDA Complex about an hour away. There are also plenty of nightclubs (Royal, ZZXYZ, Exclusiv, XYLO etc) with girls that will blow away almost anything you'll encounter in Korea, and yes plenty will be available for P4 P, but at steeper prices of 3 k to 10 k pesos all night, again depends on you and circumstances. You might think I'm exaggerating on how hot these Manila club girls are, but you'll have to see it to believe it. Plenty will be willing to go home with you for no cost, just like anywhere else youll need game but not necessarily looks (but looks so help lol). Even if I take a freebie back to my hotel, I always slip my standard 2-3k pesos into their purse or jeans in the morning.

Plenty of scamming going on in the Philippines so you'll need to have your wits about you. Be warned, Once you take the plunge, it absolutely WILL ruin Korea for you LOL.[/QUOTE]I was in Manila with a couple of my friends less than a year ago. Did my homework before I arrived and RainMania is on point, nothing more to add to what he said.

OS, out.

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2284954]I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.

Here's her instagram: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana[/URL].

If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.

Any info if she's a hooker?[/QUOTE]What did boracay_nana do to her face? It's so sad when they do that. Been with those type before (working girls or dating) cold in the sack and is as fake as their face. LOL.

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2284954]I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.

Here's her instagram: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana[/URL].

If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.

Any info if she's a hooker?[/QUOTE]Glad you like her, and more fun for you, but ugh. Cannot stand it if they chop that much of their noses off. I much prefer the natural look (and tan), as it is. Some of these plastic types just gross me out. That singer Hyuna looks like that, although your IG girl is more extreme. Ick. Just not my style.

I just don't find SE asian chicks or chinese attractive. I banged 2 popular chinese and 1 thai in the past. All 9's and such in the reviews. And yeah face and body were definition of boner defcon level 100 but soon as they opened their mouths and started yacking. I'm sorry those country's languages sound like fingernails on chalkboard. Just deflated my wood. Yeah yeah. I know were not there to hear anything from their mouths other then gagging noises when our dicks are hitting the backs of their throats but my love rod just deflates.

Maybe I had trauma by SE asian as a kid and subconciously blocked the event. Japanse, mexicans, whites I have no problem. Just weird.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2285036]Pointless adventure IMO. She would be asking for korean (foreigner) rates, IF she's hooking at all. Boracay is one of the worst options in the country for tourist P4 P, especially since the shutdown and subsequent reopening. Better to check out Cebu if you want better chances of poon with your time at the beach.

There are infinitely better looking filipina girls on IG that will spend the night with you for anything from 50-500 k won. But IG is one of the more expensive methods of doing it. Tinder, tagged, MeetMe, WeChat, FilipinoCupid, DateinAsia and PinaLove will yield thousands of readily available women in any age range you want. Look up the Philippines section of this site for tips and etiquette.

And when you're on ground (in Cebu or any major city), nightclubs will have plenty, and I mean PLENTY of available freelancers ranging from 3's to absolute 9/10's. Cost will be 1000 - 3000 pesos (outside Manila) all night depending on you, the girl and other circumstances.

You'll have much better options in Angeles city and Manila. The former is essentially a fully functioning equivalent of the itaewon of the past. Probably 100 bars or more and thousands of hookers concentrated in a few blocks, barely a 20 mins drive from the airport. Average range is 5-8 on the looks scale. Koreans all but run the town when it comes to the best girls these days, but the beauty of it is most of these girls know how to play the game, money talks bullshit walks. Some will have an exclusive preference for k-guys, but most don't care (I'm talking about the hot ones). You can do it old school by walking into the bars and barfining, or the lazy way by using online dating site methods, or by hitting the big club (high society) at night to party and pick up freelancers.

Manila on the other hand is more spread out, with the highest quality bar girls in P Burgos street in Makati, followed by ESDA Complex about an hour away. There are also plenty of nightclubs (Royal, ZZXYZ, Exclusiv, XYLO etc) with girls that will blow away almost anything you'll encounter in Korea, and yes plenty will be available for P4 P, but at steeper prices of 3 k to 10 k pesos all night, again depends on you and circumstances. You might think I'm exaggerating on how hot these Manila club girls are, but you'll have to see it to believe it. Plenty will be willing to go home with you for no cost, just like anywhere else youll need game but not necessarily looks (but looks so help lol). Even if I take a freebie back to my hotel, I always slip my standard 2-3k pesos into their purse or jeans in the morning.

Plenty of scamming going on in the Philippines so you'll need to have your wits about you. Be warned, Once you take the plunge, it absolutely WILL ruin Korea for you LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2285355]I just don't find SE asian chicks or chinese attractive. I banged 2 popular chinese and 1 thai in the past. All 9's and such in the reviews. And yeah face and body were definition of boner defcon level 100 but soon as they opened their mouths and started yacking. I'm sorry those country's languages sound like fingernails on chalkboard. Just deflated my wood. Yeah yeah. I know were not there to hear anything from their mouths other then gagging noises when our dicks are hitting the backs of their throats but my love rod just deflates.

Maybe I had trauma by SE asian as a kid and subconciously blocked the event. Japanse, mexicans, whites I have no problem. Just weird.[/QUOTE]You should have no problem in The Philippines. Especially in Manila, they speak English just fine. Just hop on a dating site and find some nice, educated women who work in the Makati area and you can have a lot of fun dining, a few drinks and more. Just be honest with what you're expecting. You'll get a lot of women who are not interested in a causal fling but play the numbers game and you'll find a few who are down with what you're after.

I saw Nana at hooker hill. Not sure if she was having an off day, but from the moment I stepped into the bar she was in a perpetual state of rushing around. She was mumbling to herself and at the same time saying short phrases in English, Korean, and possibly Chinese at me. I was about to leave, not only because she was acting strange, but she very demanding and did not seem to have a nice personality. At first she told me to give her 300,00 won but after a couple minutes going back and forth she finally accepted 80,000 won. I paid her 80,000 won and she took me to a sofa in the back corner of the bar. She got naked (she has very nice tits, and has absolutely no ass). I then found out why she was rushing around: she could not find any rubbers. So she got a plastic bag that she wanted me to use. I banged her in several positions then threw the plastic bag on the floor and shot my load on her. She did try to shield her tits with her hand but I was able hold her hand out of the way just in time for the perfect couple shots and the rest went on her stomach.

I went to a popular "Gun-ma"/ spa in Seocho famous for their hot girls, as they were doing a 150,000 two girls / two shots event.

As usual I discovered them on adal, called, made a reservation (they also asked what other places I had gone to to see if I was vetted), then went on my way.

I went down to their discreet basement area and the interior was around mid-range level. I saw a lot of young, handsome men in there which I took as a good sign of what the girls would be like.

I paid the man, showered, then was shown down a corridor to the massage room. After about 5 minutes, the first girl walks in and she is drop dead gorgeous. Amazing hourglass figure and a god like natural (and young!) face.

She was unfortunately not very energetic so I took that as an opportunity to be a little rough with her. Cat bath, BBBJ, all positions, out in 15 minutes.

I got a great hour long massage from an ajumma with hot towels then she finished by playing with my cock and balls for 10 minutes to prep for the next girl.

Second girl walks in and she is just as amazing as the first, see cups with a nice ass and not skinny to the bone like most girls. She turned out to be better than the first because of her great attitude, she treated me like a god.

Cat bath, BBBJ, then she turned around and lowered herself on me so I could get a nice view of her ass. The sounds she made during the whole session was the icing on the cake.

She suspected that I wasn't a local Korean from my accent so she asked where I was from and I gave her a line that I grew up in Canada until I was a teen.

She seemed relieved I was Korean, so I got the sense foreigners were not allowed.

Overall it was worth the cash. One caveat was that they made me wait around 10 minutes after the first girl for the massage, and another 10 minutes after the massage was done which I did not appreciate.

My reports are going to be useless for the majority of users here who can't pass as Korean.

For those of us that can fly under the radar and enjoy all the local Korean spoils, just remember to practice on your accent and keep your sentences short.

I get the sense that I'll be done with this hobby soon. I have my eye on three or four more popular local spots before I'm done. Instagram and Tinder has made it pretty easy to find a Korean FWB which is slightly cheaper than this hobby.

Are there any must-have experiences to recommend before I call it quits?

[QUOTE=ScottlJack;2287731]I saw Nana at hooker hill. Not sure if she was having an off day, but from the moment I stepped into the bar she was in a perpetual state of rushing around. She was mumbling to herself and at the same time saying short phrases in English, Korean, and possibly Chinese at me. I was about to leave, not only because she was acting strange, but she very demanding and did not seem to have a nice personality. At first she told me to give her 300,00 won but after a couple minutes going back and forth she finally accepted 80,000 won. I paid her 80,000 won and she took me to a sofa in the back corner of the bar. She got naked (she has very nice tits, and has absolutely no ass). I then found out why she was rushing around: she could not find any rubbers. So she got a plastic bag that she wanted me to use. I banged her in several positions then threw the plastic bag on the floor and shot my load on her. She did try to shield her tits with her hand but I was able hold her hand out of the way just in time for the perfect couple shots and the rest went on her stomach.[/QUOTE]Nana at the place next to the foreign food stores and the TS bar? I forget the name? Paradise or something with a P? I remember when she used to work at Moulin Rouge over a decade ago. She was about 20 back then, and constantly busy. She gives an extremely messy BJ. She gave me a BJ once, and I blew my load in her mouth within 10 seconds. Only works when she feels like it. Doesn't mix with the other ladies around. Big girl, but not heavy.

Yeah, theres some girls that have meaty asses but in general korean women are slim, tall, and have asses flat like a iron board. Why is that? Too much kimchee in their diet and not enought fat and protein? Also, why do korean women have black bruise like wounds on the lower part of their butt cheeks. It looks like some doctor slapped them in the ass so hard when they were born that it left permanent bruises. Any ideas?

[QUOTE=ScottlJack;2287731]I saw Nana at hooker hill. Not sure if she was having an off day, but from the moment I stepped into the bar she was in a perpetual state of rushing around. She was mumbling to herself and at the same time saying short phrases in English, Korean, and possibly Chinese at me. I was about to leave, not only because she was acting strange, but she very demanding and did not seem to have a nice personality. At first she told me to give her 300,00 won but after a couple minutes going back and forth she finally accepted 80,000 won. I paid her 80,000 won and she took me to a sofa in the back corner of the bar. She got naked (she has very nice tits, and has absolutely no ass). I then found out why she was rushing around: she could not find any rubbers. So she got a plastic bag that she wanted me to use. I banged her in several positions then threw the plastic bag on the floor and shot my load on her. She did try to shield her tits with her hand but I was able hold her hand out of the way just in time for the perfect couple shots and the rest went on her stomach.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2287934]Nana at the place next to the foreign food stores and the TS bar? I forget the name? Paradise or something with a P? I remember when she used to work at Moulin Rouge over a decade ago. She was about 20 back then, and constantly busy. She gives an extremely messy BJ. She gave me a BJ once, and I blew my load in her mouth within 10 seconds. Only works when she feels like it. Doesn't mix with the other ladies around. Big girl, but not heavy.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what the bars name is but it is one or two bars to the right of what used to be Happy Days. She is probably around 40 or 45 years old and in my opinion not really attractive. As I mentioned, she has nice tits, and that is probably the only nice thing about her. She also does not seem to want to connect with customers for repeat services. It's OK with me because I had my fun and I don't plan on seeing her again.

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2288092]Yeah, theres some girls that have meaty asses but in general korean women are slim, tall, and have asses flat like a iron board. Why is that? Too much kimchee in their diet and not enought fat and protein? Also, why do korean women have black bruise like wounds on the lower part of their butt cheeks. It looks like some doctor slapped them in the ass so hard when they were born that it left permanent bruises. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]In general I really like Korean women's asses but nanas ass was flatter than the standard Korean women's ass. Since you mentioned bruises, it reminded me that she did have bruises on her back and arms. I asked her what happened and she told me it's from being massaged.

How legit is the top escort babes website and girls on there?

[QUOTE=Wolfpack23;2288313]How legit is the top escort babes website and girls on there?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't have any info about that, but if you want a really good massage from a young beautiful woman I would recommend going to Kingsman spa and grooming located in Gangnam. I went there only once so far. I want to go back again sometime soon. The front desk staff were nice and they let you choose which girl from an iPad. All girls looked really pretty and the one I chose looked just like her picture. If I remember correctly I paid around 80,000 won for one hour massage.

[QUOTE=ScottlJack;2288401]Sorry, I don't have any info about that, but if you want a really good massage from a young beautiful woman I would recommend going to Kingsman spa and grooming located in Gangnam. I went there only once so far. I want to go back again sometime soon. The front desk staff were nice and they let you choose which girl from an iPad. All girls looked really pretty and the one I chose looked just like her picture. If I remember correctly I paid around 80,000 won for one hour massage.[/QUOTE]Is that the place near Gangnam Gu Office Station exit 2, in the basement of a newish building?

I saw a review on another site that it was just a legit straight massage joint. Is there any hope of some handplay or more? What were you able to get, ScottJack?

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2288737]Is that the place near Gangnam Gu Office Station exit 2, in the basement of a newish building?

I saw a review on another site that it was just a legit straight massage joint. Is there any hope of some handplay or more? What were you able to get, ScottJack?[/QUOTE]If you look up kingsman spa and grooming on Facebook you will see a map but the link isn't working for me. It is in the basement of a building. I am not sure exactly where in Gangnam because I was walking around after consuming large amounts of alcohol at another place. I found it on accident. If you want to see interior pictures, you can see on Facebook. As far as I know it is strictly massage. There were a lot of different massage options available but since it was my first time I chose the least expensive option. If you happen to go, please let me know if you find out anything interesting.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2288737]Is that the place near Gangnam Gu Office Station exit 2, in the basement of a newish building?

I saw a review on another site that it was just a legit straight massage joint. Is there any hope of some handplay or more? What were you able to get, ScottJack?[/QUOTE]I am not sure exactly where in Gangnam. I found it on accident after drinking quite a bit of alcohol. As far as I know it is strictly massage.

That map on facebook is bogus. It leads you to a supermarket.

The real kingsman is located in gangnam gu same area s ACE, Fish, anmas. As for being any HJ, I was really skeptical since they advertised so heavily on facebook and even instagram. Just seem to ask for LE sting. Also, they have no ads at any of the sex sites. Just smells funny. So unless a senior monger vouches they got a HJ or BJ I wouldn't even go near that place unless looking for legit massage.

[QUOTE=ScottlJack;2288756]If you look up kingsman spa and grooming on Facebook you will see a map but the link isn't working for me. It is in the basement of a building. I am not sure exactly where in Gangnam because I was walking around after consuming large amounts of alcohol at another place. I found it on accident. If you want to see interior pictures, you can see on Facebook. As far as I know it is strictly massage. There were a lot of different massage options available but since it was my first time I chose the least expensive option. If you happen to go, please let me know if you find out anything interesting.[/QUOTE]

Would you consider a Filipina advertising on CL as safe to see for fun? Her ad was deleted, and she is not the TG one. She is working out of a hotel in central Seoul. I have her contact info, tho. She has agreed to a HJ for 50 k.

Thoughts? Sound like a sting? She had pics posted.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2279900]Could be the end for the famous Bean and Kay. IMO those bars are probably condemned for many years and needed to be torn down.

I would say the girls should just move to another locale, but rent is so expensive in Itaewon that it probably isn't feasible. However, if they're lucky to hold onto one of the few remaining joints, supply and demand will drive up prices.[/QUOTE]I heard from Kay that the relocation now won't take place until the summer.

Just had a positive meet-up with a Filipina provider in SEOUL. She travels here often Anne is hanging-out at a hotel in Itaewon, and is very pretty. Private location for FS 200, BJ 150, or HJ 50 k.

Nice lady. Very hot. Excellent English skills. In town another week, maybe. She adverts on CL but it gets deleted.

Recommended!

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2288092]Yeah, theres some girls that have meaty asses but in general korean women are slim, tall, and have asses flat like a iron board. Why is that? Too much kimchee in their diet and not enought fat and protein? Also, why do korean women have black bruise like wounds on the lower part of their butt cheeks. It looks like some doctor slapped them in the ass so hard when they were born that it left permanent bruises. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]Some Korean women have flat asses, but their Chinese counterparts are a lot worse. Korean women are the prettiest of all Asian women, IMO, but also the biggest pain in the ass.

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2279428]Was checking some of ads and one of them had girls offering a service option of "hamburger" in korean. What in the world is that?[/QUOTE]Dunno if you ever got an answer to your question, but a "hamburger" is a titty fuck. I guess the logic is that her boobs are two buns and you provide the patty.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2290778]Would you consider a Filipina advertising on CL as safe to see for fun? Her ad was deleted, and she is not the TG one. She is working out of a hotel in central Seoul. I have her contact info, tho. She has agreed to a HJ for 50 k.

Thoughts? Sound like a sting? She had pics posted.[/QUOTE]Same SP advertising on massage rep as Sexy and Young Hottie Anne. Has come here a few times in recent years. I almost went to see her but something told me there was a good chance she was a post-op transsexual. Not judging, but not my scene.

If anyone can attest otherwise, go ahead.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2291740]Same SP advertising on massage rep as Sexy and Young Hottie Anne. Has come here a few times in recent years. I almost went to see her but something told me there was a good chance she was a post-op transsexual. Not judging, but not my scene.

If anyone can attest otherwise, go ahead.[/QUOTE]Anne is her name, but I didn't see anything that appeared TS. There is a different gal who advertises for "body massage" who is TS. I know, because she admitted it when I asked via e-mail. She's also in town.

Anne appeared quite real to me, in person. TS never crossed my mind.

[QUOTE=JakeDittler;2291737]Dunno if you ever got an answer to your question, but a "hamburger" is a titty fuck. I guess the logic is that her boobs are two buns and you provide the patty.[/QUOTE]I think hotdog would be more appropriate LOL.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2291907]I think hotdog would be more appropriate LOL.[/QUOTE]Well, when you consider what Koreans think of when they think of a hot dog -- a skewered breaded sausage covered in ketchup, I think that's something you'd want to avoid!

[QUOTE=JakeDittler;2291961]Well, when you consider what Koreans think of when they think of a hot dog -- a skewered breaded sausage covered in ketchup, I think that's something you'd want to avoid![/QUOTE]Opposed to a crappy Lotteria hamburger?

This confirms that korean atyle fast food sucks haha.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2292284]Opposed to a crappy Lotteria hamburger?

This confirms that korean atyle fast food sucks haha.[/QUOTE]I actually did have a really delicious hamburger from a officetel girl with spectacular E-cups (see attached photo below) a couple of years ago. I saw her a couple times, but only had the hamburger once. The second time I saw her, she just gifted me a second round on the house. I was exhausted and far from finishing when the manager called for shower time. I withdrew and she said "Oppa! Stick it back in now!" before she answered the phone while I was pounding her. Good times, but she didn't stick around long enough to see a third time.

There was another girl I saw at an officetel who had a body like the Japanese AV star Rion. She was taking a break from working at room salons and had that really sexy room salon face that I prefer. She was fun to be around but did have a lot of rules (No DATY and a lot of "Oppa! Do it fast please! I love your huge pepper, but your going to break me in half with that thing!) and she was the only girl I saw outside of Gangnam who demanded a foreigner rate (it was 200,000 total). After our first session, she told me I was so nice and wonderful and asked me what I wanted next time. I told her a hamburger would be great and she grabbed her gigantic melons with my hands and shook them up and and down and said "I'm going to give your huge pepper a great time!" That image was burned into my mind for a week up until seeing her again. Same rules, she balked at the hamburger due to back pains. She was so hot that I still had a good time. She like dancing around and shaking those boobs to entertain me while I showered (despite all those alleged back pains). I opted to take a little break from her to see some girls who were less rules oriented while I could save 40-50,000 won. She also stopped showing up a few weeks later but she did leave some indelible images imprinted into my head!

[QUOTE=JakeDittler;2292399]I actually did have a really delicious hamburger from a officetel girl with spectacular E-cups (see attached photo below) a couple of years ago. I saw her a couple times, but only had the hamburger once. The second time I saw her, she just gifted me a second round on the house. I was exhausted and far from finishing when the manager called for shower time. I withdrew and she said "Oppa! Stick it back in now!" before she answered the phone while I was pounding her. Good times, but she didn't stick around long enough to see a third time.

There was another girl I saw at an officetel who had a body like the Japanese AV star Rion. She was taking a break from working at room salons and had that really sexy room salon face that I prefer. She was fun to be around but did have a lot of rules (No DATY and a lot of "Oppa! Do it fast please! I love your huge pepper, but your going to break me in half with that thing!) and she was the only girl I saw outside of Gangnam who demanded a foreigner rate (it was 200,000 total). After our first session, she told me I was so nice and wonderful and asked me what I wanted next time. I told her a hamburger would be great and she grabbed her gigantic melons with my hands and shook them up and and down and said "I'm going to give your huge pepper a great time!" That image was burned into my mind for a week up until seeing her again. Same rules, she balked at the hamburger due to back pains. She was so hot that I still had a good time. She like dancing around and shaking those boobs to entertain me while I showered (despite all those alleged back pains). I opted to take a little break from her to see some girls who were less rules oriented while I could save 40-50,000 won. She also stopped showing up a few weeks later but she did leave some indelible images imprinted into my head![/QUOTE]Nice post. Who doesn't love huge tits on a shapely Korean? Usually, Koreans with big tits have those oddly misshapen bodies (inverted triangle), with broad shoulder, big tits and a narrow hips / ass combo. Quite disgusting!

Yes theres some mutated monsters like you describe. But I've seen more proportional hourglass beauties then the monsters you mentioned.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2292717]Nice post. Who doesn't love huge tits on a shapely Korean? Usually, Koreans with big tits have those oddly misshapen bodies (inverted triangle), with broad shoulder, big tits and a narrow hips / ass combo. Quite disgusting![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2293780]Yes theres some mutated monsters like you describe. But I've seen more proportional hourglass beauties then the monsters you mentioned.[/QUOTE]For sure, and you can please point me in the direction of the heavy hangers? That said, the monsters I mentioned were real. Lived there for almost 8 years and the ones I encountered didn't have bolt-ONS, unlike their contemporaries. The Korean ho's with big tits I encounter now in the US are 99.9% plastic. If you're finding huge, real ones in Korea, may I suggest you invite all of us to enjoy your findings? I'm sure the beer will flow in your favor on such an occasion and I'd be happy to buy the first round!

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2284954]I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.

Here's her instagram: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana[/URL].

If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.

Any info if she's a hooker?[/QUOTE]Ah ah she blocked me on IG, I just asked if the massage can include some special options. Then she asked what kind and I replied "like in Seoul, when I go to massage" LOL.

So I think she's not a hooker or maybe she just doesn't want speak about it on IG and you have to go there for ask directly.

IMO maybe she's really leads normal massage shop and just like exposed herself on IG.

If you go there and do it, please keep us in touch I really like to know if she's a hooker or not.

Also about Instagram girls, in my country you can find hooker on it and like you, sometimes when I check Korean IG girls, like typically the girl who exposed herself in bikini or some sexy dress. Even underwear! And say "DM me, I'm a model", or something like this. When I DM them, usually they don't answer me! I tried in Korean of course!

So maybe there is no hooker on the Korean IG, and these girls want get only some models job or free stuff (like posting picture about some makeup and they will get it free or get some money for it).

Anyway, if someone heard about Korean hooker on IG please tell me, I'm really on it recently! Because so frustrating, they even don't answer my annyeonghaseyo! (in Hangul of course).

[QUOTE=RainMania;2063529]Suwon RLD is operational 24hrs 6 days a week. I think it's closed on either Monday or Tuesday night.[/QUOTE]Hello everyone,

I typically visit Cheonho RLD and (the now gone) Cheongnyangni 588 but wanted to check out Suwon RLD. Can anyone confirm if Suwon RLD actually closes on either Monday or Tuesday evenings, if at all? I was planning to stay a night in Suwon and visit during the day and evening, likely on a Tuesday. Thanks for any info!

[QUOTE=Yuzu7;2299021]Hello everyone,

I typically visit Cheonho RLD and (the now gone) Cheongnyangni 588 but wanted to check out Suwon RLD. Can anyone confirm if Suwon RLD actually closes on either Monday or Tuesday evenings, if at all? I was planning to stay a night in Suwon and visit during the day and evening, likely on a Tuesday. Thanks for any info![/QUOTE]Don't come in on Monday or Tuesday and you'll be fine.

Be warned, the quality in suwon is far less than what you'the get in Cheonho or in any other Seoul RLD for that matter, and their attitudes are just as bad too. If you don't look East Asian, forget A-Row girls for the most part.

Be and see row are full of the dregs, and I mean that in the most sincere form of the word. If you're lucky, you'll find a decent looking girl there or even a rare gem if your stars align. Sometimes I just go there for a late night stroll to see what I'm not missing. And I'm grateful I ain't missing much!

Note that be and see row girls (more like grannies and fatties, or both) are also picky these days because of the deluge of south and south East Asian customers they get. I'm actually happy for these women, they need to eat too after all, just not on my dime.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2299469]Don't come in on Monday or Tuesday and you'll be fine.

Be warned, the quality in suwon is far less than what you'the get in Cheonho or in any other Seoul RLD for that matter, and their attitudes are just as bad too. If you don't look East Asian, forget A-Row girls for the most part.

Be and see row are full of the dregs, and I mean that in the most sincere form of the word. If you're lucky, you'll find a decent looking girl there or even a rare gem if your stars align. Sometimes I just go there for a late night stroll to see what I'm not missing. And I'm grateful I ain't missing much!

Note that be and see row girls (more like grannies and fatties, or both) are also picky these days because of the deluge of south and south East Asian customers they get. I'm actually happy for these women, they need to eat too after all, just not on my dime.[/QUOTE]Thanks RainMania, I appreciate the information! I'm East Asian and have never had any issues at the various Seoul RLDs. I thought a change in scenery might be nice, but based on your feedback, I'll stick with the Seoul RLDs since I can only make it down to Suwon on a Tuesday. Much appreciated!

[QUOTE=RainMania;2299469]Don't come in on Monday or Tuesday and you'll be fine.

Be warned, the quality in suwon is far less than what you'the get in Cheonho or in any other Seoul RLD for that matter, and their attitudes are just as bad too. If you don't look East Asian, forget A-Row girls for the most part.

Be and see row are full of the dregs, and I mean that in the most sincere form of the word. If you're lucky, you'll find a decent looking girl there or even a rare gem if your stars align. Sometimes I just go there for a late night stroll to see what I'm not missing. And I'm grateful I ain't missing much!

Note that be and see row girls (more like grannies and fatties, or both) are also picky these days because of the deluge of south and south East Asian customers they get. I'm actually happy for these women, they need to eat too after all, just not on my dime.[/QUOTE]Suwon must have seriously changed in the past 15 years. In 2004, there were lots of hotties. Granted, most in A-row wouldn't touch a foreigner but I'd go at off peak hours and snag a few. Weren't really any fatties or fuglies back then. Guess with the ever-increasing wealth in the country, even the A-row girls will be has-beens. Korea is no longer a mongering destination.

Looking for some action. The site makes it look like it's kinda dead now. A few years back I hit 588. Prices were good at 80 k. Also hit girium that ran me around 100 k. What's open now a days? Looking more for window shopping. Any info is Much appreciated.

OK so I went and tried to hit up Yeongdeungpo and it was a bust. I think I went to the wrong place. After arriving at the station, I exited out of 6. I then headed to my right. It lead to a more deserted area. I was then pulled in to the left by a mama and taken down a few alleyways. I went to the second floor and I stupidly gave the mama 100 k. And waited for a girl. Holy shit did I EF things up by doing that. I should have known better. In case you don't know. Don't pay unless you see the goods. I repeat, don't pay unless you see the goods. A woman in at least her 60's came up to service me. She was also on the fatter side. I was not going to pay for this, so after insisting to get my money back they brought another woman. Just as old as the first. They looked like mamas not providers. Things got a bit dicey as I insisted I get my money back. I only know a handful of Korean which didn't help much. After much demanding in broken Korean and some angry Mandarin, I finally got my money back. As a side not I had told the mama that I was Taiwanese. Americans are usually frowned upon. She thought I was Japanese. So then I get the hell out of dodge. And wandered the area looking for some windows. I never found them, but I found a ton of love hotels. And even more norebangs. It helps that I can read a little.

So please learn from my experience and don't ever pay first until you see the goods. Also stay away from exit 6. Also research better first and if you're from the states use T-Mobile as you can roam free. I didn't have internet access on the trip thus the larger chance of messing up.

By the time I left I had spent around 2 hours in the area including the time it took to get my money back. Which I would say was Not an easy task.

Another note, try and travel with a buddy, because shit almost got real out there and it pays to have someone who has your back. I was constantly looking around to see if muscle was coming. Something close to this happened in HK.

Ending the story, I got back to my room and internet and read I went to the wrong exit. I should have headed to times square and Marriott. Which I think I did end up doing in my wanderings, but I was unable to find any windows.

Learn from my mistake and Stay safe out there brothers.

Tiandao.

[QUOTE=Tiandao;2300112]OK so I went and tried to hit up Yeongdeungpo and it was a bust. I think I went to the wrong place. After arriving at the station, I exited out of 6. I then headed to my right. It lead to a more deserted area. I was then pulled in to the left by a mama and taken down a few alleyways. I went to the second floor and I stupidly gave the mama 100 k. And waited for a girl. Holy shit did I EF things up by doing that. I should have known better. In case you don't know. Don't pay unless you see the goods. I repeat, don't pay unless you see the goods. A woman in at least her 60's came up to service me. She was also on the fatter side. I was not going to pay for this, so after insisting to get my money back they brought another woman. Just as old as the first. They looked like mamas not providers. Things got a bit dicey as I insisted I get my money back. I only know a handful of Korean which didn't help much. After much demanding in broken Korean and some angry Mandarin, I finally got my money back. As a side not I had told the mama that I was Taiwanese. Americans are usually frowned upon. She thought I was Japanese. So then I get the hell out of dodge. And wandered the area looking for some windows. I never found them, but I found a ton of love hotels. And even more norebangs. It helps that I can read a little.

So please learn from my experience and don't ever pay first until you see the goods. Also stay away from exit 6. Also research better first and if you're from the states use T-Mobile as you can roam free. I didn't have internet access on the trip thus the larger chance of messing up.

By the time I left I had spent around 2 hours in the area including the time it took to get my money back. Which I would say was Not an easy task.

Another note, try and travel with a buddy, because shit almost got real out there and it pays to have someone who has your back. I was constantly looking around to see if muscle was coming. Something close to this happened in HK.

Ending the story, I got back to my room and internet and read I went to the wrong exit. I should have headed to times square and Marriott. Which I think I did end up doing in my wanderings, but I was unable to find any windows.

Learn from my mistake and Stay safe out there brothers.

Tiandao.[/QUOTE]You got it right, never pay until you've seen the girl and her ass stays put while you pay the mamasan. Korea can be confusing so always do your homework and don't try to memorize directions or subway exits. I used to write everything down so I knew exactly where to go. Hope you have better luck next time.

It has been a time since anyone posted on Miari RLD. BUt it is still going strong and I have been an occasional visitor lately as other area get shut down.

The advice from older posts is still good:

Take the Line 4 to the north and exit the train at Gireum station. It is the 4th station after Dongdaemun.

It should also be obvious from Google maps where it is located using Google maps. Look for the rabbit warren streets near the subway.

Take exit 10 and the entrance to Miari RLD is right 10 m to the right behind the 'flying curtain'.

Actually there are tons of entrances and maybe about close on 100 establishments inside.

Some actually front onto the main street and are not in the RLD and I get waved in there too.

The ATMs near the metro entrance have stopped taking my credit card (all the NICE ones and more) and last time I had to walk far to the far east of Miari to find a store with a machine outside that did the business.

Some of the shops might not wave you in and that is ok. There will be tons of mama-san that will ask if you want HJ or sex etc. Just explore the area. Don't worry. You will get laid.

You'll see lots of old women sitting on the various benches around. Easiest way to identify a place that is "foreigner" friendly (for some definition of the term) is to wander until one tries to attract your attention. Maybe they won't budge on a first attempt but will do so later.

Anyway there are lots.

Nor will you walk in and out of every establishment. There are just too many. Usually I find what I like after one or two, and it helps to have written down on the phone what I want using a translate programme.

Don't let yourself be hassled by the mama-sans. Take your time for selection. Price is a fixed rate of 100.000 Won for FS 15 m. I rather ask for more time (30 min instead of 15) (sam ship pun ok?

THis is quite more successful then bargaining the price.

Virtually no English skills here! But don't let that put you off. I know a bit and use your phone.

I've found the place late at night. Last three times I was there was about 3 am.

Inside, you'll be shown the "selection" which is usually 2-3 girls. They're dressed in white gowns ("wedding gowns") and the rooms are lit mostly brightly, giving a pretty surreal glow to everything. As soon as you choose your girl, you pay the mamasan, you are led to room (these vary in quality, some are good), and you wait for the girl to come in.

[QUOTE=Tiandao;2300112]OK so I went and tried to hit up Yeongdeungpo and it was a bust. I think I went to the wrong place. After arriving at the station, I exited out of 6. I then headed to my right. It lead to a more deserted area. I was then pulled in to the left by a mama and taken down a few alleyways. I went to the second floor and I stupidly gave the mama 100 k. And waited for a girl. Holy shit did I EF things up by doing that. I should have known better. In case you don't know. Don't pay unless you see the goods. I repeat, don't pay unless you see the goods. A woman in at least her 60's came up to service me. She was also on the fatter side. I was not going to pay for this, so after insisting to get my money back they brought another woman. Just as old as the first. They looked like mamas not providers. Things got a bit dicey as I insisted I get my money back. I only know a handful of Korean which didn't help much. After much demanding in broken Korean and some angry Mandarin, I finally got my money back. As a side not I had told the mama that I was Taiwanese. Americans are usually frowned upon. She thought I was Japanese. So then I get the hell out of dodge. And wandered the area looking for some windows. I never found them, but I found a ton of love hotels. And even more norebangs. It helps that I can read a little.

So please learn from my experience and don't ever pay first until you see the goods. Also stay away from exit 6. Also research better first and if you're from the states use T-Mobile as you can roam free. I didn't have internet access on the trip thus the larger chance of messing up.

By the time I left I had spent around 2 hours in the area including the time it took to get my money back. Which I would say was Not an easy task.

Another note, try and travel with a buddy, because shit almost got real out there and it pays to have someone who has your back. I was constantly looking around to see if muscle was coming. Something close to this happened in HK.

Ending the story, I got back to my room and internet and read I went to the wrong exit. I should have headed to times square and Marriott. Which I think I did end up doing in my wanderings, but I was unable to find any windows.

Learn from my mistake and Stay safe out there brothers.

Tiandao.[/QUOTE]If you arrive by subway you can go through the underground shopping centre. Not sure which exit from the center, but I think number two. You will find the rld right next, running along, to the Shinsegae shopping mall, a road between the mall and Yeongdeungpo subway station.

Easy to locate on Naver or Daum maps. The windows will be blurred in street view, so you know it's the rld.

I just met Jeni Yi at my room in Seoul, not far from Namdaemun. Here is the bottom line. If you are a Westerner with limited Korean skills and a decent budget, I say go for it. She was on time, looked great, was easy to talk to, delivered all as promised, and left me with a smile on my face. Is she expensive. Yes. But if you don't speak Korean fairly well (working on that! Or have a friend who does, your choices are limited. I saw Vivien from Bohemian previously, for $300, but Jeni blew her away. Her English is great and she is very smart and easy to talk to. She didn't object to any of my requests and was responsive and vocal during the session. She did ask $100 extra to go 2 x, which is a bit excessive, I admit, but round #1 was so mind blowing that it didn't matter anyway. Her body is simply fantastic and her kissing is wonderful.

I know the sentiment on here is that you should get BBFS for 80,000 W, but that is just not my thing. I would rather pay a bit more and enjoy an educated woman in my room, with some latex between her and I for peace of mind. (she provided the protection, including for CBJ). Despite the rubber, the services were thoroughly enjoyed by all. Jeni says that she cannot fake, and I believe her. If she faked, hand over the Oscar. (and who cares!

Sorry to drive up the price a bit for locals looking for a cheap romp, but here we are. If you have the means, then surely check out the officetel scene, but until my language skills are better, I think Jeni will do nicely! Honestly, I might ask her what her fee would be to introduce me to the scene. With a couple ins, I might be goo to go in the future.

Play safe gents.

Hi,

This stranger is washing up on your shores in 2 weeks. I've RTFF but hoped you seniors had good, up to date, outcall recommendations?

I've seen Bohemian and few European independents w reasonable success. Looking for something less than crazy $400 or $500 visits. I'm happy to help you with east coast intel if needed / in the future.

Thanks!

500 USD for one pop with a mandatory condom.

Unbelievable. What terrible value.

That's worth two sessions with an anma level hot girl with unlimited shots 90 minutes each.

Real-time reporting from Seoul. Lilly Jung just left my hotel room. She is well worth the USD 500/ hour. She is fucking amazing! Perfect skinny body, beautiful face, and as wild as they get.

I've been with dozens of Korean girls, but nothing like that! Lilly Jung is one of a kind.

[URL]http://lillyjung.asia/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Zipp0;2301196]

Sorry to drive up the price a bit for locals looking for a cheap romp, but here we are. If you have the means, then surely check out the officetel scene, but until my language skills are better, I think Jeni will do nicely! Honestly, I might ask her what her fee would be to introduce me to the scene. With a couple ins, I might be goo to go in the future.

Play safe gents.[/QUOTE]I don't think prices / girls like these really effect local mongers too much. Locals have many more options and probably wouldn't even think to pay $500 USD for CBJ and just 1 girl when they can go to either an Officetel for anywhere from $150+ and get BBBJ and CFS, a room salon with some friends to get some drinks and see the girl in person before choosing, a RLD, or any other pay for play places. If anything, I'd say you're just driving up prices for other foreigners who don't know / cannot get into the local scene.

We've tried to warn them for years about getting fleeced, but Ultimately have failed.

The issue isn't the 500 k, the issue is what 500 k gets you. I don't know how else to show people they are being ripped off. Each to his own I guess.

As for me, I'll Take my 500 k where it gets me maximum value.

[QUOTE=Yuiop69;2300676]It has been a time since anyone posted on Miari RLD. BUt it is still going strong and I have been an occasional visitor lately as other area get shut down.

The advice from older posts is still good:

Take the Line 4 to the north and exit the train at Gireum station. It is the 4th station after Dongdaemun.

It should also be obvious from Google maps where it is located using Google maps. Look for the rabbit warren streets near the subway.

Take exit 10 and the entrance to Miari RLD is right 10 m to the right behind the 'flying curtain'.

Actually there are tons of entrances and maybe about close on 100 establishments inside.

Some actually front onto the main street and are not in the RLD and I get waved in there too.

The ATMs near the metro entrance have stopped taking my credit card (all the NICE ones and more) and last time I had to walk far to the far east of Miari to find a store with a machine outside that did the business.

Some of the shops might not wave you in and that is ok. There will be tons of mama-san that will ask if you want HJ or sex etc. Just explore the area. Don't worry. You will get laid.

You'll see lots of old women sitting on the various benches around. Easiest way to identify a place that is "foreigner" friendly (for some definition of the term) is to wander until one tries to attract your attention. Maybe they won't budge on a first attempt but will do so later.

Anyway there are lots.

Nor will you walk in and out of every establishment. There are just too many. Usually I find what I like after one or two, and it helps to have written down on the phone what I want using a translate programme.

Don't let yourself be hassled by the mama-sans. Take your time for selection. Price is a fixed rate of 100.000 Won for FS 15 m. I rather ask for more time (30 min instead of 15) (sam ship pun ok?

THis is quite more successful then bargaining the price.

Virtually no English skills here! But don't let that put you off. I know a bit and use your phone.

I've found the place late at night. Last three times I was there was about 3 am.

Inside, you'll be shown the "selection" which is usually 2-3 girls. They're dressed in white gowns ("wedding gowns") and the rooms are lit mostly brightly, giving a pretty surreal glow to everything. As soon as you choose your girl, you pay the mamasan, you are led to room (these vary in quality, some are good), and you wait for the girl to come in.[/QUOTE]Curious, are you Asian? IF so, you have a distinct advantage of having access to the better girls there. When I used to frequent the place (American white guy), I would go about 9-10 pm before the Korean guys would get there in numbers so I'd have a better chance of getting a prettier girl. Even when I'd go when Korean guys were on the prowl, a mamasan might let me in and, while I was in the midst of choosing a girl, a Korean dude would show up and the mamasan would literally wrap the long curtains around me to keep me out of view until the Korean guy left or chose a girl and went to a room. Always worried that they'd see my feet sticking out from under the curtains. LOL. Made for some interesting times!

[QUOTE=Magian;2301566]Real-time reporting from Seoul. Lilly Jung just left my hotel room. She is well worth the USD 500/ hour. She is fucking amazing! Perfect skinny body, beautiful face, and as wild as they get.

I've been with dozens of Korean girls, but nothing like that! Lilly Jung is one of a kind.

[URL]http://lillyjung.asia/[/URL][/QUOTE]You must have some serious coin and that's your business, but no way in hell would I pay $500 for a Korean, no matter how good she looks. We have a few here in Atlanta, GA that look just as good as Lilly and can be had for $260/45 min. That includes a nice shower with BBBJ and then CFS.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2301815]We've tried to warn them for years about getting fleeced, but Ultimately have failed.

The issue isn't the 500 k, the issue is what 500 k gets you. I don't know how else to show people they are being ripped off. Each to his own I guess.

As for me, I'll Take my 500 k where it gets me maximum value.[/QUOTE]I agree. For that money or a little more, I'd head to the Phils and bang several. They may not look as good but overall one would have some good variety.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2301840]You must have some serious coin and that's your business, but no way in hell would I pay $500 for a Korean, no matter how good she looks. We have a few here in Atlanta, GA that look just as good as Lilly and can be had for $260/45 min. That includes a nice shower with BBBJ and then CFS.[/QUOTE]Clearly with the low number of posts (5 for Magjan and 7 for Zipp0) they're probably the provider giving the reviews.

Annoying, but to each his own. On her website, she looks pretty good, but is she better than the girl in the white skirt in this photo?

I used to pay her 80,000 KRW for 30 minutes and we got down to great business.

80,000 KRW for BBFS, DATY, BBBJ at 588 RLD vs. 500,000 KRW for a pretty average Korean girl?

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2301841]I agree. For that money or a little more, I'd head to the Phils and bang several. They may not look as good but overall one would have some good variety.[/QUOTE]I'm doing exactly that.

Someone reported my earlier post and got it deleted. Lily's feelings must be hurt that posters she's advertising to can have unlimited sex with multiple beautiful (and younger) women for less than half what she charges for an overnight appointment, CBJ and CFS mandatory LOL.

If her fee wasn't so extortionate, perhaps she wouldn't have to pretend to review herself on here.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2301970]Clearly with the low number of posts (5 for Magjan and 7 for Zipp0) they're probably the provider giving the reviews.

Annoying, but to each his own. On her website, she looks pretty good, but is she better than the girl in the white skirt in this photo?

I used to pay her 80,000 KRW for 30 minutes and we got down to great business.

80,000 KRW for BBFS, DATY, BBBJ at 588 RLD vs. 500,000 KRW for a pretty average Korean girl?[/QUOTE]Exactly.

All I see in her pics is a slim girl with big tits, which is fair enough. What use are those tits to me after I blow 500 k on 20-30 mins of action? All I ‘d have is a massive case of buyer's remorse. One month's rent in my 2 bedroom apartment (completed in 2015) is 500 k for fuck sakes LOL.

Dude,

Get over yourself. I have a long history on many boards. I was on bestgfe back in the day and then moved to gfeclub when bestgfe went down. Now my profile is on tnaboard under my same username as here. Additionally I have reviews on ***. I didn't travel much internationally until recently, hence the low number of posts. Also, I see few providers generally.

When I met her she was upset by the talk here that it was her giving herself reviews. She is a smart, USA educated woman, providing a good service.

Do I have serious coin? Not really. I just see providers infrequently so can pay more when I do. Also, I am here on business, so can't just jet off to the PI on a whim. If I could, I would. Honestly, if I could get away with it with the wife, I would visit the FKKs in Frankfurt on a regular basis.

As it is I come here for work and have a thing for Asian girls. Jeni fit the bill and I don't regret seeing her. I might see her again tomorrow.

Zipp0.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2301970]Clearly with the low number of posts (5 for Magjan and 7 for Zipp0) they're probably the provider giving the reviews.

Annoying, but to each his own. On her website, she looks pretty good, but is she better than the girl in the white skirt in this photo?

I used to pay her 80,000 KRW for 30 minutes and we got down to great business.

80,000 KRW for BBFS, DATY, BBBJ at 588 RLD vs. 500,000 KRW for a pretty average Korean girl?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zipp0;2301986]

When I met her she was upset by the talk here that it was her giving herself reviews. She is a smart, USA educated woman, providing a good service.

Do I have serious coin? Not really. I just see providers infrequently so can pay more when I do. Also, I am here on business, so can't just jet off to the PI on a whim. If I could, I would. Honestly, if I could get away with it with the wife, I would visit the FKKs in Frankfurt on a regular basis.

As it is I come here for work and have a thing for Asian girls. Jeni fit the bill and I don't regret seeing her. I might see her again tomorrow.

Zipp0.[/QUOTE]Oh my. Poor pretty princess had her feelings hurt on here lmfao. That's what you get when you charge 500+ LOL. If she usa educated then she should be able to handle criticism
Are we supposed to be jealous that youre gonna see her tmw haha....congrats. You want a medal or chest to pin it on?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2301979]I'm doing exactly that.

Someone reported my earlier post and got it deleted. Lily's feelings must be hurt that posters she's advertising to can have unlimited sex with multiple beautiful (and younger) women for less than half what she charges for an overnight appointment, CBJ and CFS mandatory LOL.

If her fee wasn't so extortionate, perhaps she wouldn't have to pretend to review herself on here.[/QUOTE]Pathetic posters.

Next time rainmania copy and save your long posts and post it back up again.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2301970]Clearly with the low number of posts (5 for Magjan and 7 for Zipp0) they're probably the provider giving the reviews.

Annoying, but to each his own. On her website, she looks pretty good, but is she better than the girl in the white skirt in this photo?

I used to pay her 80,000 KRW for 30 minutes and we got down to great business.

80,000 KRW for BBFS, DATY, BBBJ at 588 RLD vs. 500,000 KRW for a pretty average Korean girl?[/QUOTE]Is the RLD in your attachment still in business? If so, which one is it?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2301979]I'm doing exactly that.

Someone reported my earlier post and got it deleted. Lily's feelings must be hurt that posters she's advertising to can have unlimited sex with multiple beautiful (and younger) women for less than half what she charges for an overnight appointment, CBJ and CFS mandatory LOL.

If her fee wasn't so extortionate, perhaps she wouldn't have to pretend to review herself on here.[/QUOTE]I'm doing exactly that too. Be there in two weeks!

BTW, what exactly did you say in your post that may have gotten it deleted? I remember reading it but didn't see anything that would violate forum rules.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2302171]I'm doing exactly that too. Be there in two weeks!

BTW, what exactly did you say in your post that may have gotten it deleted? I remember reading it but didn't see anything that would violate forum rules.[/QUOTE]Nothing that I recall.

Just bitter indies who think they are worth 500 to 600 an hour LOL.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2302151]Oh my. Poor pretty princess had her feelings hurt on here lmfao. That's what you get when you charge 500+ LOL. If she usa educated then she should be able to handle criticism
Are we supposed to be jealous that youre gonna see her tmw haha....congrats. You want a medal or chest to pin it on?[/QUOTE]I am not sure why this board is so hostile? I thought you guys got laid a lot so would be more relaxed! Anyway, back quite a few years ago I was on an agency list that set me up with UTR porn stars and total knockout college girls for $300/ HR. I sure wish those days we're back. And yes, that was expensive then, but porn stars in the USA had a much higher going rate at the time and the college girls were nearly perfect. In the states it is $300 these days for anyone worth seeing. And honestly, pickings are often pretty slim.

If someone would hook me up with the officetel scene on my next trip, I would gladly treat you to some pussy. In the fall I will be in Busan.

Zipp0.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2302171]I'm doing exactly that too. Be there in two weeks!

BTW, what exactly did you say in your post that may have gotten it deleted? I remember reading it but didn't see anything that would violate forum rules.[/QUOTE]Probably the part where I laughed at the post / poster.

If you're going to Manila before / after AC, look up the bars in P Burgos. You won't be disappointed.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2302170]Is the RLD in your attachment still in business? If so, which one is it?[/QUOTE]Regrettably, it's not. 588- Cheongnyangni. She was a hottie, too, and said she lived in Yeungdungpo.

I've wondered if she moved to YDP RLD, but I imagine she's not shitting in her own backyard.

Usually only worked during the day, I remember hopping on the train with her and giving her an extra $100- just because.

Like an idiot, I lost her phone number, though she's probably long gone from the game by now.

At any rate, there's 26 million more fish in the sea in SK.

[QUOTE=Zipp0;2302286]I am not sure why this board is so hostile? I thought you guys got laid a lot so would be more relaxed! Anyway, back quite a few years ago I was on an agency list that set me up with UTR porn stars and total knockout college girls for $300/ HR. I sure wish those days we're back. And yes, that was expensive then, but porn stars in the USA had a much higher going rate at the time and the college girls were nearly perfect. In the states it is $300 these days for anyone worth seeing. And honestly, pickings are often pretty slim.

If someone would hook me up with the officetel scene on my next trip, I would gladly treat you to some pussy. In the fall I will be in Busan.

Zipp0.[/QUOTE]Thing is. Your post read like an advertisement / shill and I don't think it would be limited to just this section. For $500 USD there's plenty of other options in Korea in the pay for play scene, or you can go see multiple girls for that price and get better service.

As for Officetels, while it might be possible to find someone to help you book an appointment, a lot of girls won't see non-Koreans for various reasons.

[QUOTE=Zipp0;2302286]I am not sure why this board is so hostile? I thought you guys got laid a lot so would be more relaxed!

Zipp0.[/QUOTE]Hostile? You mean because of SP and agencies start posting here with their ridiculous prices and report posts to get removed? LOL.

[QUOTE=Zipp0;2302286]I am not sure why this board is so hostile? I thought you guys got laid a lot so would be more relaxed! Anyway, back quite a few years ago I was on an agency list that set me up with UTR porn stars and total knockout college girls for $300/ HR. I sure wish those days we're back. And yes, that was expensive then, but porn stars in the USA had a much higher going rate at the time and the college girls were nearly perfect. In the states it is $300 these days for anyone worth seeing. And honestly, pickings are often pretty slim.

If someone would hook me up with the officetel scene on my next trip, I would gladly treat you to some pussy. In the fall I will be in Busan.

Zipp0.[/QUOTE]Hostile? Not so much, more like vigilant.

In the past 4-6 years, we've seen the prices charged by independents go up around 250% on average (and as high as 350% in some cases), with no visible increase in the quality of service being provided.

So please excuse us if we don't fall for the 'but she's worth 500 bucks for one pop' story. Most of these girls weren't worth it when their prices first went from 150 k to 250 k virtually overnight, now that they're around half a decade older, we're expected to be the fool and fork out even more? LOL!

[QUOTE=Zipp0;2301196]I just met Jeni Yi at my room in Seoul, not far from Namdaemun. Here is the bottom line. If you are a Westerner with limited Korean skills and a decent budget, I say go for it. She was on time, looked great, was easy to talk to, delivered all as promised, and left me with a smile on my face. Is she expensive. Yes. But if you don't speak Korean fairly well (working on that! Or have a friend who does, your choices are limited. I saw Vivien from Bohemian previously, for $300, but Jeni blew her away. Her English is great and she is very smart and easy to talk to. She didn't object to any of my requests and was responsive and vocal during the session. She did ask $100 extra to go 2 x, which is a bit excessive, I admit, but round #1 was so mind blowing that it didn't matter anyway. Her body is simply fantastic and her kissing is wonderful.

I know the sentiment on here is that you should get BBFS for 80,000 W, but that is just not my thing. I would rather pay a bit more and enjoy an educated woman in my room, with some latex between her and I for peace of mind. (she provided the protection, including for CBJ). Despite the rubber, the services were thoroughly enjoyed by all..[/QUOTE]You could just pay for a 300 dollar flight to Bangkok and hit like 5 girls for that price, or for that price have a Thai model girl all night. Or rent a 19-21 year old Thai or Filipinna for a week. You could even have a K-girl in Hong Kong or Singapore for cheaper. Korea is just such a damn money trap in so many ways.

I think even Korean guys are getting fleeced.

[QUOTE=ScottlJack;2287731]I saw Nana at hooker hill. Not sure if she was having an off day, but from the moment I stepped into the bar she was in a perpetual state of rushing around. She was mumbling to herself and at the same time saying short phrases in English, Korean, and possibly Chinese at me. I was about to leave, not only because she was acting strange, but she very demanding and did not seem to have a nice personality. At first she told me to give her 300,00 won but after a couple minutes going back and forth she finally accepted 80,000 won. I paid her 80,000 won and she took me to a sofa in the back corner of the bar. She got naked (she has very nice tits, and has absolutely no ass). I then found out why she was rushing around: she could not find any rubbers. So she got a plastic bag that she wanted me to use. I banged her in several positions then threw the plastic bag on the floor and shot my load on her. She did try to shield her tits with her hand but I was able hold her hand out of the way just in time for the perfect couple shots and the rest went on her stomach.[/QUOTE]Yes, Nana is a bit strange and tries the upsell way too hard. She does have an amazing set of fake boobs though, and she really hits the Asian MILF vibe perfectly though. Make sure to agree about every detail of the act before you pay though, or it will cost you. A good time can be had with her if you do. She can do convincing DFK and I have finished in a "hamburger" on those big fake ones of hers more times than I can remember.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2303221]

I think even Korean guys are getting fleeced.[/QUOTE]That's why they head to the Philippines in droves.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2302650]Hostile? Not so much, more like vigilant.

In the past 4-6 years, we've seen the prices charged by independents go up around 250% on average (and as high as 350% in some cases), with no visible increase in the quality of service being provided.

So please excuse us if we don't fall for the 'but she's worth 500 bucks for one pop' story. Most of these girls weren't worth it when their prices first went from 150 k to 250 k virtually overnight, now that they're around half a decade older, we're expected to be the fool and fork out even more? LOL![/QUOTE]Very well said, Rain. I'm just glad I no longer live in Korea and have to put up with the current mongering situation. What a pittance compared to the '80's.

Can anyone provide an update as to which RDLs are up and running. I would also be willing to go to an office set. As you can see I'm a regular contributor. I would appreciate any info or pms.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2303553]Very well said, Rain. I'm just glad I no longer live in Korea and have to put up with the current mongering situation. What a pittance compared to the '80's.[/QUOTE]I don't even bother anymore in Korea. Even the dating scene where I get occasional freebies have become a chore, let alone dealing with delusional and mercenary independents LOL.

I still try to visit Miari when I can, but I can say I honestly understand the lure SE Asia has for so many worldwide, including Korean guys that now go there by the town load.

Once more for those who at the back who haven't heard, the price structure for pussy in Korea (that focuses on foreigners) makes no economic sense. I'm taking my 300-500 bucks to the lands of sun, sand and unlimited silky smooth under-25 pussy!

[QUOTE=RainMania;2303976]I don't even bother anymore in Korea. Even the dating scene where I get occasional freebies have become a chore, let alone dealing with delusional and mercenary independents LOL.

I still try to visit Miari when I can, but I can say I honestly understand the lure SE Asia has for so many worldwide, including Korean guys that now go there by the town load.

Once more for those who at the back who haven't heard, the price structure for pussy in Korea (that focuses on foreigners) makes no economic sense. I'm taking my 300-500 bucks to the lands of sun, sand and unlimited silky smooth under-25 pussy![/QUOTE]With a mango on top.Hehe

Its almost a joke and a complete waste of time. I was walking down the street and at ladies beckoned me. One said 200,000 and the other said 240,000 for 15 minutes. That's approximately 200 usd for 15 minutes. None of the women were good looking enough for 200 USD for 15 minutes. I don't know if this is the foreigner price of the local price but none of them were worth 200 usd for 15 minutes. Most of the women ignored me.

[QUOTE=Neworlean;2304116]Its almost a joke and a complete waste of time. I was walking down the street and at ladies beckoned me. One said 200,000 and the other said 240,000 for 15 minutes. That's approximately 200 usd for 15 minutes. None of the women were good looking enough for 200 USD for 15 minutes. I don't know if this is the foreigner price of the local price but none of them were worth 200 usd for 15 minutes. Most of the women ignored me.[/QUOTE]Did you try to negotiate with them?

You could've probably gotten a few of them down to 100 k won for one pop, which is around the going rate for Seoul RLDs. It's interesting they didn't ignore you or shoo you away like the A-row girls in Cheonho and Suwon do. Do you look Korean?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2304033]With a mango on top.Hehe[/QUOTE]Fresh, juicy and ready to be devoured haha.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2303976]I don't even bother anymore in Korea. Even the dating scene where I get occasional freebies have become a chore, let alone dealing with delusional and mercenary independents LOL.

I still try to visit Miari when I can, but I can say I honestly understand the lure SE Asia has for so many worldwide, including Korean guys that now go there by the town load.

Once more for those who at the back who haven't heard, the price structure for pussy in Korea (that focuses on foreigners) makes no economic sense. I'm taking my 300-500 bucks to the lands of sun, sand and unlimited silky smooth under-25 pussy![/QUOTE]I see, thought you were still living there. If the locals are bailing, that should be a warning sign for expat mongers as well to GTFO and monger elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2304316]I see, thought you were still living there. If the locals are bailing, that should be a warning sign for expat mongers as well to GTFO and monger elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I'm still in Korea. I just monger elsewhere LOL.

You're definitely right about the locals bailing, so much so that even the local pimps and establishments are bailing to SE Asia too, and they're taking their overpriced business models with them.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2304324]I'm still in Korea. I just monger elsewhere LOL.

You're definitely right about the locals bailing, so much so that even the local pimps and establishments are bailing to SE Asia too, and they're taking their overpriced business models with them.[/QUOTE]Guessing you have a Korean wife or are there for a job (as I used to be), but I would GTFO as soon as you can. Korea is such a mongering shithole.

[QUOTE=Neworlean;2304116]Its almost a joke and a complete waste of time. I was walking down the street and at ladies beckoned me. One said 200,000 and the other said 240,000 for 15 minutes. That's approximately 200 usd for 15 minutes. None of the women were good looking enough for 200 USD for 15 minutes. I don't know if this is the foreigner price of the local price but none of them were worth 200 usd for 15 minutes. Most of the women ignored me.[/QUOTE]Just went there last night, rate 80-100 k per 20 min, try nego, they accept travellers as I see Chinese / Japanese are going.

[QUOTE=Mingman;2305426]Just went there last night, rate 80-100 k per 20 min, try nego, they accept travellers as I see Chinese / Japanese are going.[/QUOTE]Do they allow showers before?

In Gangnam. Does anyone have experience, guidance on its offerings, damage etc? Teheran-ro. Thanks!

Just read through the past few pages and it's a pretty sad read to say the least. My naivety thought there would be some cute young Koreans available for P4 P but I guess not. I'll be there for a few months. Thankfully I really enjoy Korean food so I guess that's where all my cash will be going.

The one thing I will try in Seoul will be a Kiss Bang room. Seems different than anything I have tried in the past. Any good ones around Myeongdong?

If I am incorrect please let me know where I can find good brothels in Seoul. I guess I understand why the Korean guys come to my hometown in Pattaya in droves where they pay 250 k for a gogo girl for the night. Must seem like a bargain to them.

Will be visiting the country in about a month and am trying to figure out the current situation at Hooker Hill. It sounds like it is in the process of dying through condemnation and the like, but I can't figure out from the posts whether it is completely dead, or just in decline with fewer options. Thanks for any help with this.

Is Cherry (with the big boobs at Happy Day) still around at Itaewon Hooker Hill? I would love to see her again next time I go to Seoul. It's been a long time now.

Why are we here? To spread the news about places to get laid, right? No reason to judge others based on what they like / prefer / are comfortable paying, eh?

We all have reasons for doing what we do. Some have legitimate reasons why they cannot hop on a flight to Thailand for a weekend fuckfest. Some have legitimate reaspns why they prefer to pay premium prices. Why should we care? We are all for for the same reason. Lets stick to the reporting and people can decide on their own what they want and don't want.

So. I went to Cheonho a few months back and it was dead. Perhaps it was the day (Tuesday) or the hour 10 pm-ish but there wasn't much going on. Anyways, found an acceptable receptacle and went away satisfied.

Then, more recently I went to Yeongdeungpo. Thanks for the heads up to not follow the adjummas and I keot walking. It was busy (Thursday niggt) and there were a lot of hot girls. A few were on offer, a few turned me away. The one I chose had a pretty face and a fantastic body. She was limited with touching, kissing though. Tits were horribly fake. I could feel the exact outline of the silicon. Fake tits are a turnoff in general for me. So after she rode a bit on top, I turned her over for doggy. She had a very nice ass so I could enjoy the view while pounding her. Maybe she was tired, maybe she was engrossed in the piunding, but I was able to sneak a thumb in her ass while I was going at her. She seemed to enjoy that despite her previous limitations with touching. All was well. I went away happy. Thats all it really about, eh?

[QUOTE=Neworlean;2304116]Its almost a joke and a complete waste of time. I was walking down the street and at ladies beckoned me. One said 200,000 and the other said 240,000 for 15 minutes. That's approximately 200 usd for 15 minutes. None of the women were good looking enough for 200 USD for 15 minutes. I don't know if this is the foreigner price of the local price but none of them were worth 200 usd for 15 minutes. Most of the women ignored me.[/QUOTE]I had the opposite experience. A few hotyies and the ones that offered were 100 k. Ymmv, eh?

[QUOTE=Magian;2301566]Real-time reporting from Seoul. Lilly Jung just left my hotel room. She is well worth the USD 500/ hour. She is fucking amazing! Perfect skinny body, beautiful face, and as wild as they get.

I've been with dozens of Korean girls, but nothing like that! Lilly Jung is one of a kind.

[URL]http://lillyjung.asia/[/URL][/QUOTE]You're kidding, right?

Very average skinny Korean woman slaps on some out-of-style Aldo shoes and a button-down shirt, and suddenly she's worth 500?

I guess she can dream.

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2276322]Very impressive. Sometimes I miss those old days, too.[/QUOTE]I just got back to some old posts. Did you used to work on the hill in Itaewon?

[QUOTE=Phloppy;2310397]I had the opposite experience. A few hotyies and the ones that offered were 100 k. Ymmv, eh?[/QUOTE]How long do they give you at Yeongdeungpo for 100 k?

Do they offer showers or wipe you down? Thanks.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2310952]How long do they give you at Yeongdeungpo for 100 k?

Do they offer showers or wipe you down? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Typical 20-30 minutes. Just a wipe down.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2310829]I just got back to some old posts. Did you used to work on the hill in Itaewon?[/QUOTE]No I didn't. Just used to live in a tiny goshiwon on a bottom of the hill, close to fire station, once many years ago when moved from downtown to my current area in eastern Seoul. But actually I worked in one dancing club juicy bar in Songtan for about 3 month just for fun.

Have a question for the experts.

I'm a white guy and speak some Korean. Have never used any services. I checked out some of the local sites, thought about trying to contact some places but they say you have to call from an unblocked phone number. I'm concerned that some may LE. Are stings a thing in Korea? Anything to watch out for? Am I being too paranoid?

Also anyone have any luck with the establishments in Seoul or Suwon?

Thanks.

Throughout the years I have found out the best way to find really good places is to have a Korean friend take you to local places that might be difficult to find as a foreigner here. In my experience some places that may not accept foreigners will accept foreigners when they are with a Korean friend. Good luck.

[QUOTE=EmlAddr;2312995]Have a question for the experts.

I'm a white guy and speak some Korean. Have never used any services. I checked out some of the local sites, thought about trying to contact some places but they say you have to call from an unblocked phone number. I'm concerned that some may LE. Are stings a thing in Korea? Anything to watch out for? Am I being too paranoid?

Also anyone have any luck with the establishments in Seoul or Suwon?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EmlAddr;2312995]Have a question for the experts.

I'm a white guy and speak some Korean. Have never used any services. I checked out some of the local sites, thought about trying to contact some places but they say you have to call from an unblocked phone number. I'm concerned that some may LE. Are stings a thing in Korea? Anything to watch out for? Am I being too paranoid?

Also anyone have any luck with the establishments in Seoul or Suwon?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You will also have more luck if you try outside the main gangnam area.

I called maybe 10 establishments last time I was in Korea (a month ago) and was up front about the fact that I was a foreigner. No concerns about police or stings. The ones in Gangnam (gangnam station specifically) and some select areas near Bundang / Suwon said no or didn't respond / pick up. I got way more hits than I thought I would. Some places around Gangnam (again, not gangnam station itself just look at a map and the local sites and you'll figure it out) were more than happy to take my money. I met with both Korean and Russian girls. In this mongers opinion, paying the premium price for a shorter time with Russian girls in Korea ain't worth it, but they are definitely more foreigner friendly.

One officetel Korean girl I visited even let me do BBFS CIM with no extra charge. Idk if she was feeling it with me but damn that was pretty awesome LOL. Not the standard operating procedure in Korea though so don't go in with high expectations. SE Asia is still way better but if you're dead set on Korea mongering, officetel is the way to go. Befriend a local or learn some basic Korean--navigating the sites can be difficult if you don't know the language and slang. I actually sat down with the manager of a lip cafe and asked him to help me understand some of the slang that Google translate can't figure out. Being polite and honest goes a long way. If you have specific questions, feel free to shoot me a PM. I found breaking the Vietnam website codes to be much more difficult.

In other news. Cheonho RLD was dead when I went--charging 100 k for 20 minutes with ugly be / see row girls. No way. Can get a lip cafe BBBJCIM for 40 k or a full hour with a K cutie in officetel for 130 k. Or just spend a teeny bit more and go to SE Asia LOL.

[QUOTE=Tsfh14;2313839]You will also have more luck if you try outside the main gangnam area.

I called maybe 10 establishments last time I was in Korea (a month ago) and was up front about the fact that I was a foreigner. No concerns about police or stings. The ones in Gangnam (gangnam station specifically) and some select areas near Bundang / Suwon said no or didn't respond / pick up. I got way more hits than I thought I would. Some places around Gangnam (again, not gangnam station itself just look at a map and the local sites and you'll figure it out) were more than happy to take my money. I met with both Korean and Russian girls. In this mongers opinion, paying the premium price for a shorter time with Russian girls in Korea ain't worth it, but they are definitely more foreigner friendly.

One officetel Korean girl I visited even let me do BBFS CIM with no extra charge. Idk if she was feeling it with me but damn that was pretty awesome LOL. Not the standard operating procedure in Korea though so don't go in with high expectations. SE Asia is still way better but if you're dead set on Korea mongering, officetel is the way to go. Befriend a local or learn some basic Korean--navigating the sites can be difficult if you don't know the language and slang. I actually sat down with the manager of a lip cafe and asked him to help me understand some of the slang that Google translate can't figure out. Being polite and honest goes a long way. If you have specific questions, feel free to shoot me a PM. I found breaking the Vietnam website codes to be much more difficult.

In other news. Cheonho RLD was dead when I went--charging 100 k for 20 minutes with ugly be / see row girls. No way. Can get a lip cafe BBBJCIM for 40 k or a full hour with a K cutie in officetel for 130 k. Or just spend a teeny bit more and go to SE Asia LOL.[/QUOTE]Solid advice.

Once you start going deeper into the korean scene and start understanding what is available (language ability absolutely essential), it completely removes the rose tinted glasses and you start to see the value of what your money gets you.

I've met officetel and lip cafe managers that are very down to earth dudes and are willing to help IF you give off a good vibe. I wouldn't befriend most of them for lengthy times though as they are often in and out if the scene, and if they get in trouble with LE guess who they'd probably rat out first LOL.

As I've said before, if you can order food delivery on the phone in korean, making an arrangement for an officetel or lip cafe isn't any more difficult. You'll pick up more terms and slang the more you navigate their sites and speak to the managers and providers. Just let them know you're a foreigner at the earliest opportunity and if that's ok.

As for SE Asia, 5th trip in 5 months for me. I really need to slow down now haha! Be warned, it WILL ruin korea for you!

Cheonho and other RLD's workers are getting a compensation from Government, if in case if they decide to step out to normal life and settle down with normal job (hair, nail etc), probably many of them did.

Those money comes from taxes, so many locals aren't happy about it.

Anyway RLDs will be gone.

Never pay via bank transfer. If there's no record it should be OK even if establishment will bust earlier or later. One is currently under investigation BTW.

[QUOTE=Tsfh14;2313839]You will also have more luck if you try outside the main gangnam area.

I called maybe 10 establishments last time I was in Korea (a month ago) and was up front about the fact that I was a foreigner. No concerns about police or stings. The ones in Gangnam (gangnam station specifically) and some select areas near Bundang / Suwon said no or didn't respond / pick up. I got way more hits than I thought I would. Some places around Gangnam (again, not gangnam station itself just look at a map and the local sites and you'll figure it out) were more than happy to take my money. I met with both Korean and Russian girls. In this mongers opinion, paying the premium price for a shorter time with Russian girls in Korea ain't worth it, but they are definitely more foreigner friendly.

One officetel Korean girl I visited even let me do BBFS CIM with no extra charge. Idk if she was feeling it with me but damn that was pretty awesome LOL..[/QUOTE]

Hi!

Anyone out here who could help me book through Officitel / equivalents? Need help as I am a 1st time visitor & don't speak the language. My profile & posts on this site can serve as some form of a genuine introduction.

Curious & hopeful.

JJ.

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2311603]No I didn't. Just used to live in a tiny goshiwon on a bottom of the hill, close to fire station, once many years ago when moved from downtown to my current area in eastern Seoul. But actually I worked in one dancing club juicy bar in Songtan for about 3 month just for fun.[/QUOTE]I wish I had known. I would've definitely barfined you.

I had good luck on Saturday at a body waxing shop at Gildong station exit 1. 60000 won BBBJCIM. Full service was offered at a higher price but neither of us had a rubber.

[QUOTE=Koharski;2314331]I had good luck on Saturday at a body waxing shop at Gildong station exit 1. 60000 won BBBJCIM. Full service was offered at a higher price but neither of us had a rubber.[/QUOTE]160 k for a BBBJCIM? More for 1 shot FS?

Yikes.

Man even in America, you can go to a Korean AAMP and get more shots and service than what Seoul is offering.

Thanks and yes, that was funny but in general, such a waste of time. Glad I'd finally successfully skipped out from there.

[QUOTE=Koharski;2314330]I wish I had known. I would've definitely barfined you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tsfh14;2314502]160 k for a BBBJCIM? More for 1 shot FS?

Yikes.

Man even in America, you can go to a Korean AAMP and get more shots and service than what Seoul is offering.[/QUOTE]I believe he said 60 k.

Exit 1, Gildong Station.

I tried this Anma last month when I was in Korea. Its not as cheap at 240 k foreigner price as some of the streets but you get a hot girl who gives you good service with 2 shots.

Its also an interesting concept with public sex in the bar and in the room.

Google for it and you should be able to find it easily. Its tucked into a side street.

Entered and the boss lady greeted me and showed me the price on her calculator as I speak no Korean. Paid and she showed me the pictures of the girls. I picked one that I heard from another forum she was good. Forgot her name, sorry. But she was hot, a leggy Korean, slim figure with enhanced the-boobs, cute face, shaven pussy.

There were 3 other Korean dudes who entered the same time I did. We were all ushered into a changing room where you strip naked and shower to wash yourself clean, brush your teeth. An old monger told me that the cleaner you are, the more the girl will like it and be willing to suck and lick everywhere, if you don't smell like shit (literally). After showering you are given a thin robe to wear and taken upstairs to wait for your girl.

Upstairs I was ushered into a room to wait for my pick. In the room there is a TV showing some Japanese AV but strangely they cut off all the sex scenes. I guess they don't want us to get too horny. My girl came in and took my hand, and immediately gave me a good kiss. She started on the GFE immediately. She pulled me to the bar area where there is disco lights and music, and she gave me a BBBJ through my robe while I was standing next to the bar. I could see other dudes getting a BBBJ or some are kissing. One dude was fucking his girl in doggie style on the sofa, another was in missionary on another sofa. While my girl was giving me a BBBJ, I was stroking her hair and trying to get to her breast. She mumbled something in Korean, I think you are supposed to stand there like a boss and let her blow you. She alternates DFK with BBBJ, after a while my girl pulled my hand to a secluded corner with a sofa. She pushed me down to the sofa leaning against the wall and started to BBBJ me again while caressing my nipples. Then she took pulled up her skirt, she was not wearing any panties, she opened her blouse for me to get access to her breast and sank onto my dick. We rocked there for a while and she started to cowgirl and doing DFK. I exploded due to her tight pussy. All these while the guy in the next sofa was fucking his girl in doggie.

She kissed me, took off the condom and threw it away into the bin, then led me by the hand into her room. In the room, she asked me to lie down and relax. She put a cosmetic mask on my face and told me to rest. She busied herself in front of the mirror like a GF, and after a while, she removed the mask, cleaned my face up. She stripped naked, climbed on the bed and started to BBBJ again. This was followed by cowgirl, lapdance, and I finished her in missionary. All this while we were DFKing.

All done, she washed me and herself, put my robe back on. Gave me a hug and peck on the cheek and sent me back to the locker area where I showered, dressed and left.

All in, it was a great experience for me. I wet back the next day but tried another girl. More of that in my next FR.

Next day after a long day of meetings, and company dinner, I made an excuse and left early to go to Fish Anma again.

Arrived there and realized I don't have enough won, so I asked to pay using my credit card. They agreed but will add a 10% commission. No choice, wanted to do a hot Korean girl so I paid up.

Decided to try another girl and saw a SYT that had an even hotter body than the previous girl so I opted for her.

The usual thing, go to locker room, shower, brush teeth, wear robe and wait. For some reason that night was quite slow business so I was the only chap there. Once I was done I was shown upstairs immediately.

The TV was playing a Jap AV showing a repairman staring down at a girl's cleavage but no nudity. Anyway my girl came into the room quite fast and led me out to the bar.

If you read my previous FR, they start with DFK and BBBJ. My girl said I smell of garlic from dinner which she did not like so the DFK was a bit short. (point to note. Brush your teeth and take a breath fresher if you want to DFK a long time).

She led me to another sofa and pulled down her top and hiked up her skirt. As usual they are not wearing any bra nor panties underneath. We did cowgirl and ended in doggie on the couch next to another couple who are doing their act too.

She led me to her room and this time she laid down with me and we cuddled for a while. I could not speak Korean so we laid in silence for 10-15 minutes. I don't mind holding a hot girl in my hand and spooning her, caressing her breast and pussy. Towards the 40 min mark she turned around and started to DFK and we kissed while she massaged my dick. I went down on her and we did a 69.

But for some reason I could not get hard a second time. The poor girl did her best, using hand, pussy, mouth, breast but I just could not get hard. She tried to suck my limp dick, massaged it pulled it, used her hand, but to no avail. Somehow I just could not get aroused. THis is sad and strange as I am in a room with a hot Korean SYT who wants to fuck and I could not get aroused.

After 15 minutes of trying, I hugged her, kissed her gently and told her its OK. Let it go.

I guess after 3 fucks within a 24 hour period, I needed to really feel the GFE to get aroused, and because of my lack of Korean I could not connect. In addition I suspected that as the SOP was similar to the previous day, it felt contrived. Maybe the truth of the matter is I am close to 60 years old, and the good old pipe is tired.

Anyway, not her fault, I will definitely come back again when I am next in Seoul.

[QUOTE=LeLion;2310239]Is Cherry (with the big boobs at Happy Day) still around at Itaewon Hooker Hill? I would love to see her again next time I go to Seoul. It's been a long time now.[/QUOTE]As of February when I was last in Seoul she had moved next door to Avant Garde along with Kay and the mamasan from Happy Days.

[QUOTE=Jolem;2305647]In Gangnam. Does anyone have experience, guidance on its offerings, damage etc? Teheran-ro. Thanks![/QUOTE]Answered my own question. Went twice. First was club level, foreigner premium 240 for HR, second was normal level with nuru. First was cool, will repeat. Showered, had tea while waiting, led to a petite, slim, be cup, nice ass in a nurse uniform, we pole danced LOL, then LFK and nipple play, she licked me up and down, sat me down and went down, she chats with other naked lovelies walking by. She stands me against the wall and starts a nice BBBJ with full views of other girls in rooms, a girl going down on another foreigner. She camel slides on me, spun her around, leaned her against wall for DATY and DATO. Leads me to a room, more BBBJ as another girl wanders in to suck my balls, CG, RCG, mish, doggie. We go out to the hall again, stand next to another dude getting BBBJ, she starts licking him while I plough her doggie. The other girl HJ the other dude while I worship her tits. We separate, go back to room and finish hard mish. Clean up, drink, chat w google, she leads me back to stairs, take them to locker, leave with real appetite for dinner.

I went down to the Suwon RLD to check it out. There were around 30 girls working, around 60 Filipino men who were just milling about watching other customers and seemingly having no interest in hiring the women. I don't know if they're voyeurs or what, but it was weird. The women were asking 70,000 so I just came on back to Gildong to blow my load down the throat of the woman at the waxing salon for 60,000.

[QUOTE=Koharski;2316741]I went down to the Suwon RLD to check it out. There were around 30 girls working, around 60 Filipino men who were just milling about watching other customers and seemingly having no interest in hiring the women. I don't know if they're voyeurs or what, but it was weird. The women were asking 70,000 so I just came on back to Gildong to blow my load down the throat of the woman at the waxing salon for 60,000.[/QUOTE]You traveled to suwon and headed all the the way to gildong because it was 10000 cheaper?

I'm assuming 70000 is FS.

Hey Guys,

My first visit to Korea will be in August. Where should I go for a massage with extras? A good bar to pick-up girls? Any tips would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2316860]You traveled to suwon and headed all the the way to gildong because it was 10000 cheaper?

I'm assuming 70000 is FS.[/QUOTE]Why wouldn't I head back to Gildong? This is where I live.

[QUOTE=Koharski;2316963]Why wouldn't I head back to Gildong? This is where I live.[/QUOTE]Either way. You basically did a 100 km trip, for nothing.

I guess checking it out is a plus.

[QUOTE=BigMacDaddy;2316910]Hey Guys,

My first visit to Korea will be in August. Where should I go for a massage with extras? A good bar to pick-up girls? Any tips would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I'm not into massages so I'll let the others tell you or you can check with Leah (that I've never met).

For pickup spots, go to Itaewon. A quick google search should tell you where the English speakers go. .

Tinder works differently here so if you're not staying long, avoid "only friends" or "language exchange" profiles.

Some of them are euphemisms but it takes time to break the ice.

Hope that helps a tiny bit.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2317048]Either way. You basically did a 100 km trip, for nothing.[/QUOTE]

I hang out with friends who live just a few stations south of Suwon, so the trip was going to be made regardless. I didn't feel like the half hour I spent in the RLD was a waste. It was important to see what was there and was an interesting site to see even if there were better pickings in my own neighborhood.

[QUOTE=CinaHandsome69;2314996]I tried this Anma last month when I was in Korea. Its not as cheap at 240 k foreigner price as some of the streets but you get a hot girl who gives you good service with 2 shots.

Its also an interesting concept with public sex in the bar and in the room.

Google for it and you should be able to find it easily. Its tucked into a side street.

Entered and the boss lady greeted me and showed me the price on her calculator as I speak no Korean. Paid and she showed me the pictures of the girls. I picked one that I heard from another forum she was good. Forgot her name, sorry. But she was hot, a leggy Korean, slim figure with enhanced the-boobs, cute face, shaven pussy.

There were 3 other Korean dudes who entered the same time I did. We were all ushered into a changing room where you strip naked and shower to wash yourself clean, brush your teeth. An old monger told me that the cleaner you are, the more the girl will like it and be willing to suck and lick everywhere, if you don't smell like shit (literally). After showering you are given a thin robe to wear and taken upstairs to wait for your girl.

Upstairs I was ushered into a room to wait for my pick. In the room there is a TV showing some Japanese AV but strangely they cut off all the sex scenes. I guess they don't want us to get too horny. My girl came in and took my hand, and immediately gave me a good kiss. She started on the GFE immediately. She pulled me to the bar area where there is disco lights and music, and she gave me a BBBJ through my robe while I was standing next to the bar. I could see other dudes getting a BBBJ or some are kissing. One dude was fucking his girl in doggie style on the sofa, another was in missionary on another sofa. While my girl was giving me a BBBJ, I was stroking her hair and trying to get to her breast. She mumbled something in Korean, I think you are supposed to stand there like a boss and let her blow you. She alternates DFK with BBBJ, after a while my girl pulled my hand to a secluded corner with a sofa. She pushed me down to the sofa leaning against the wall and started to BBBJ me again while caressing my nipples. Then she took pulled up her skirt, she was not wearing any panties, she opened her blouse for me to get access to her breast and sank onto my dick. We rocked there for a while and she started to cowgirl and doing DFK. I exploded due to her tight pussy. All these while the guy in the next sofa was fucking his girl in doggie.

She kissed me, took off the condom and threw it away into the bin, then led me by the hand into her room. In the room, she asked me to lie down and relax. She put a cosmetic mask on my face and told me to rest. She busied herself in front of the mirror like a GF, and after a while, she removed the mask, cleaned my face up. She stripped naked, climbed on the bed and started to BBBJ again. This was followed by cowgirl, lapdance, and I finished her in missionary. All this while we were DFKing.

All done, she washed me and herself, put my robe back on. Gave me a hug and peck on the cheek and sent me back to the locker area where I showered, dressed and left.

All in, it was a great experience for me. I wet back the next day but tried another girl. More of that in my next FR.[/QUOTE]Do the girls there fuck without condoms or is it strictly CFS?

[QUOTE=Koharski;2316741]I went down to the Suwon RLD to check it out. There were around 30 girls working, around 60 Filipino men who were just milling about watching other customers and seemingly having no interest in hiring the women. I don't know if they're voyeurs or what, but it was weird. The women were asking 70,000 so I just came on back to Gildong to blow my load down the throat of the woman at the waxing salon for 60,000.[/QUOTE]I've been to Suwon's RLD twice. First time I went the girl charged just 40,000 so I went for it. She wasn't that great looking but better than nothing. None of the hot ones on the main row would see me because I'm a foreigner I suppose. 2nd time I saw a slightly better women for 10 bucks more but I made my way up and down to see if any of the hotter ones would call me in but unfortunately same result as last time.

60 Filipino men just hanging out watching? That's weird as fuck. Last time I saw an Indian looking guy just standing and watching which I also thought was odd. Cheonho rdl is no more right? Could you point me in the direction of this waxing salon you mentioned?

I finally say an 'anma" massage place near me that I want to check out. I hope they accept foreigners. But anyways does anyone have know what do I say when I enter a place like this? Is it just "massage chuseyo"? LOL.

[QUOTE=Wolfpack23;2317460]Cheonho rdl is no more right? [/QUOTE]Can anyone confirm if Cheonho is currently active / inactive? I visit Korea about once a year and was planning to visit Cheonho in the next month. I usually book a nearby hotel, but will change the reservation if it's no longer active. Thanks for any recent info on this!

[QUOTE=Yuzu7;2317906]Can anyone confirm if Cheonho is currently active / inactive? I visit Korea about once a year and was planning to visit Cheonho in the next month. I usually book a nearby hotel, but will change the reservation if it's no longer active. Thanks for any recent info on this![/QUOTE]I went a couple weeks ago and it was still active but there weren't a lot of girls working. I was told that a lot of them were on vacation due to spring finally coming around but I haven't been back to see if things changed.

[QUOTE=Jolem;2315870]Answered my own question. Went twice. First was club level, foreigner premium 240 for HR, second was normal level with nuru. First was cool, will repeat. Showered, had tea while waiting, led to a petite, slim, be cup, nice ass in a nurse uniform, we pole danced LOL, then LFK and nipple play, she licked me up and down, sat me down and went down, she chats with other naked lovelies walking by. She stands me against the wall and starts a nice BBBJ with full views of other girls in rooms, a girl going down on another foreigner. She camel slides on me, spun her around, leaned her against wall for DATY and DATO. Leads me to a room, more BBBJ as another girl wanders in to suck my balls, CG, RCG, mish, doggie. We go out to the hall again, stand next to another dude getting BBBJ, she starts licking him while I plough her doggie. The other girl HJ the other dude while I worship her tits. We separate, go back to room and finish hard mish. Clean up, drink, chat w google, she leads me back to stairs, take them to locker, leave with real appetite for dinner.[/QUOTE]It's sound interesting! Can you give the name or the address of that place?

[QUOTE=KoreanID;2318454]It's sound interesting! Can you give the name or the address of that place?[/QUOTE]It says so in the post headline / title. It's Castle Anma.

So I've been living in SK for a couple of months now and I've been to a few officetels.

Their one hour price is fair compared to the UK but yeah.

I do agree with my seniors that taking a plane south is the way to go.

Unfortunately, I can't afford it schedule-wise.

I got myself a subscription to send / receive DMs.

Let me know if anyone's interested in officetel group fun.

We get discounts for groups of 3 and higher.

Can someone give me fish Anma's Address in Korean?

Just a news update. Haven't heard about Seoul, but I think I read that there was a crackdown in March? Not sure if it's still going on?

[URL]http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190508000667[/URL]

The Daegu Police Agency booked 93 alleged sex workers, brokers and buyers during a three-month intensive crackdown in the metropolitan city in southeastern South Korea. In the process, some 39 million won ($33,358) was confiscated, the police said Wednesday.

According to the police, the suspects did business in 34 residential studios and massage parlors. One of the businesses, in Nam-gu, central Daegu, allegedly raised over 420 million won in illicit profits since last September.

Of the 93 booked, one person was arrested, police said, calling the suspect a broker with a record of having committed the same crime.

On Tuesday, the Daegu Prosecutors' Office said a police lieutenant based at a police station in the city was arrested on charges of arranging prostitution from December to March at two studio apartments in downtown Daegu.

[QUOTE=Koharski;2316741]I went down to the Suwon RLD to check it out. There were around 30 girls working, around 60 Filipino men who were just milling about watching other customers and seemingly having no interest in hiring the women. I don't know if they're voyeurs or what, but it was weird. The women were asking 70,000 so I just came on back to Gildong to blow my load down the throat of the woman at the waxing salon for 60,000.[/QUOTE]Any more insight as to where this waxing salon is, or the name? Thanks.

[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2318234]I went a couple weeks ago and it was still active but there weren't a lot of girls working. I was told that a lot of them were on vacation due to spring finally coming around but I haven't been back to see if things changed.[/QUOTE]Great, thanks for the info. Much appreciated! Will report back later.

Hi guys,

I moved here just few month back. I am foreigner and learning Korean. I am near Suwon.

I just had 1 experience here. Seems this place is expensive and not accept foreigners normally.

Following the forum for more information.

I am looking for some information to know better about this place.

1. In general how safe are RLDs and Anmas?

2. I looked into opstar, got reply they don't want to entertain foreigners. There prices looks reasonable, any luck?

3. Do you guys maintain separate number for this hobby? In past, I used to maintain a separate Phone. Just asking how things work here.

Sorry for asking questions at very start. I am following forum posts as well to know more about this place.

Thanks in advance.

I knew a lady pretty well on MR saw her a few times and communicated regularly by email.

Then I went on holiday for a while and her profile had gone. No answer to my emails.

So I presumed she had stopped working.

But then her profile reappeared but still no answer to my emails.

So I can only conclude there must be a lot of fake profiles on MR.

Any comments on this?

[QUOTE=Yuzu7;2319693]Great, thanks for the info. Much appreciated! Will report back later.[/QUOTE]I had some time today so I stopped by. It's definitely in the stages of closing down. The "A" row on the left side is pretty much all gone, and a lot of the other places are vacant. It looks like the area is being re-developed and won't last much longer than a year I'd say.

Maybe Lura Waxing & skincare lura. Kr? But I'm not sure. It is located at exit 1, Gildon station.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2319182]Any more insight as to where this waxing salon is, or the name? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stack58;2318907]It says so in the post headline / title. It's Castle Anma.[/QUOTE]I'm having trouble finding an address. Does anyone know where it is located?

Hey all,

First off, thanks for all the great information on this board. I have an upcoming stopover in Korea and am really looking forward to indulging in activities with some beautiful Korean women. Some of the best sex I've ever had has been with Korean women in the USA.

The reviews of the anma's have been terrific, I am definitely planning to visit. I'm also really interested in going to a kiss bang but can't seem to get a good handle on where any are located. I'm staying in Gangnam, so if there are any close to there, that would be great. Can you guys recommend any kiss bangs along with their location?

If any of you travel to Brazil or Germany, I have good advice on mongering.

I'll also be happy to post Field reports when I return.

[QUOTE=Nakk1221;2320138]I'm having trouble finding an address. Does anyone know where it is located?[/QUOTE]That is the address for the space next to Castle.

Go to Seolleung Station Line2 (Green Line). Walk out of Exit 4. Go straight, past the Mc Donald's, past the 7-11 until you come to a street just before a Lotteria. Walk up that street (a hill) and Castle should be on your right.

[QUOTE=Nakk1221;2320138]I'm having trouble finding an address. Does anyone know where it is located?[/QUOTE]It has a convenient website in Japanese (a tiny bit of English).

It's castleanma with the most frequent domain name extension.

I tried going there last week. SE Asians were quoted +30 k over the internet listed price on Korean SNS platforms.

I was quoted +80 k and they would not budge so I didn't indulge.

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;2320176]Hey all,

The reviews of the anma's have been terrific, I am definitely planning to visit. I'm also really interested in going to a kiss bang but can't seem to get a good handle on where any are located. I'm staying in Gangnam, so if there are any close to there, that would be great. Can you guys recommend any kiss bangs along with their location?
[/QUOTE]There's a link to a googlemap deeper in the thread with a few kissbang locations.

I think it was maintained by Chinese speakers.

If you can read Hangul, try looking for Korean SNS sites dedicated to mongering.

You can easily find some if you look for officetel and daytime in Korean on Google.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2320257]It has a convenient website in Japanese (a tiny bit of English).

It's castleanma with the most frequent domain name extension.

I tried going there last week. SE Asians were quoted +30 k over the internet listed price on Korean SNS platforms.

I was quoted +80 k and they would not budge so I didn't indulge.[/QUOTE]I tried Castle and Donuts. They both wanted 40 k more than the internet price, which I showed to them. They claimed the internet price was for Asians only. I said I didn't need that and walked out. In both cases, they followed and were begging me to come in and pay the justifiable foreigner tax. I kept on walking. I will save my money for cheaper and better service in Thailand.

Thanks, I will be staying by Yeouido Park. What's the deal with the barber shops?

[QUOTE=Stack58;2317143]I'm not into massages so I'll let the others tell you or you can check with Leah (that I've never met).

For pickup spots, go to Itaewon. A quick google search should tell you where the English speakers go. .

Tinder works differently here so if you're not staying long, avoid "only friends" or "language exchange" profiles.

Some of them are euphemisms but it takes time to break the ice.

Hope that helps a tiny bit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2320072]Maybe Lura Waxing & skincare lura. Kr? But I'm not sure. It is located at exit 1, Gildon station.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I saw that one, but wow. Was searching Naver and found what seemed like a dozen such places in that area. I thought Lura looked pretty legit, with the couples thing, and all.

[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2320220]That is the address for the space next to Castle.

Go to Seolleung Station Line2 (Green Line). Walk out of Exit 4. Go straight, past the Mc Donald's, past the 7-11 until you come to a street just before a Lotteria. Walk up that street (a hill) and Castle should be on your right.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the help. Going to head over and check it out either today or tomorrow. I'll post my report afterwards.

Anyone been to the Hill in Itaewon lately? I recall a number of posts earlier this year indicating that the whole side of the street where Happy Days and Avant Garde are located was set to be demolished in April. Can anyone who is based in Seoul or visited recently confirm whether that has been the case. I'm visiting next month and would like to know in advance whether the Hill is still an option for P4 P fun.

Some days ago buildings on the other side were demolished (Moonshine, VIP). In front of Avantgarde there's always some trash and two homeless people resting there. Strange view! Opposite side (Laura.) Only some really old girls. Maybe the last days of the hill.

BTW: Incheon Yellow House is almost all demolished.

Ambrosia is also closed!

[QUOTE=Lion55;2321767]Anyone been to the Hill in Itaewon lately? I recall a number of posts earlier this year indicating that the whole side of the street where Happy Days and Avant Garde are located was set to be demolished in April. Can anyone who is based in Seoul or visited recently confirm whether that has been the case. I'm visiting next month and would like to know in advance whether the Hill is still an option for P4 P fun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lion55;2321767]Anyone been to the Hill in Itaewon lately? I recall a number of posts earlier this year indicating that the whole side of the street where Happy Days and Avant Garde are located was set to be demolished in April. Can anyone who is based in Seoul or visited recently confirm whether that has been the case. I'm visiting next month and would like to know in advance whether the Hill is still an option for P4 P fun.[/QUOTE]Damn, that's really sad. Can someone post a pic please?

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2322057]Damn, that's really sad. Can someone post a pic please?[/QUOTE]Put in Google maps street view address.

It is exactly where it is, high resolution, the whole street.

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2322334]Put in Google maps street view address.

It is exactly where it is, high resolution, the whole street.[/QUOTE]I know where those clubs are / were, just want to see a recent pic of the demolition, which Google street wouldn't be able to show.

I'm staying in Myeongdong. Any good kiss bang recommendations easily accessible by walking or train? What prices should I be expecting for a kiss bang session?

I've read some sites where it has been challenging for some tourists to take money out of an ATM. I'll be staying in Myeongdong. Is this still an issue in Seoul?

Am I better off taking USD or Thai baht to exchange there?

[QUOTE=Stack58;2320260]There's a link to a googlemap deeper in the thread with a few kissbang locations.

I think it was maintained by Chinese speakers.

If you can read Hangul, try looking for Korean SNS sites dedicated to mongering.

You can easily find some if you look for officetel and daytime in Korean on Google.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I can't read Hangul. I used google translate to generate the Hangul but the search didn't return anything useful. However, in digging through the forum I did find opstar, which looks great except the ads are images, not text, so I can't translate them! The main thing I want to know is the course and program details. For example there is an entry for 260 k won, 120 minutes, and then this in Korean:

무 한 코 스 What does this mean? And what do you guys think of the places advertised on opstar?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2323615]I've read some sites where it has been challenging for some tourists to take money out of an ATM. I'll be staying in Myeongdong. Is this still an issue in Seoul?

Am I better off taking USD or Thai baht to exchange there?[/QUOTE]Absolutely no problems with ATMs at the airport. Just follow instructions on screen and don't be hasty. Read every bit of information carefully before pushing buttons and you will be fine.

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;2323670]Unfortunately I can't read Hangul. I used google translate to generate the Hangul but the search didn't return anything useful. However, in digging through the forum I did find opstar, which looks great except the ads are images, not text, so I can't translate them! The main thing I want to know is the course and program details. For example there is an entry for 260 k won, 120 minutes, and then this in Korean:

무 한 코 스 What does this mean? And what do you guys think of the places advertised on opstar?[/QUOTE]Ok, I was playing around with google translate and I understand the translation, which I think means unlimited. Would still love some feedback from you all on what you think of the opstar advertisements. Is it worthwhile trying to pursue an appointment through them?

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;2323803]Ok, I was playing around with google translate and I understand the translation, which I think means unlimited. Would still love some feedback from you all on what you think of the opstar advertisements. Is it worthwhile trying to pursue an appointment through them?[/QUOTE]I've been to few places on Opstar, I send them a text in Korean and ask if they accept white foreigners (because that's what I am). Some say yes then I ask for the location. All the girls l got have been Thai or Chinese. I think the places with Korean women say no, so far. I read some Korean, but also use the camera function on the translation app for the images, good luck.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2322057]Damn, that's really sad. Can someone post a pic please?[/QUOTE]I posted a ton of pics a few months back. I haven't been back to the hill in a month, but those boarded-up places were still standing. I read someone posted that one of the ladies said the demolition was delayed until next summer. Surely going to happen, though, as it's all been gutted and / or boarded-up, spray-painted, etc. I was told that there was going to be a guesthouse going in at the top of the hill, somewhere near old Pollys and those bars up there.

[QUOTE=Oesede;2321855]Some days ago buildings on the other side were demolished (Moonshine, VIP). In front of Avantgarde there's always some trash and two homeless people resting there. Strange view! Opposite side (Laura.) Only some really old girls. Maybe the last days of the hill.

BTW: Incheon Yellow House is almost all demolished.

Ambrosia is also closed![/QUOTE]Oh, just saw this after I posted. So Moonshine and VIP are gone, or you mean the ones opposite Moonshine and VIP? I'd be surprised if Moonshine and VIP went first, but not if Cheers / Texas / etc, on that other side, were gone.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2323615]I've read some sites where it has been challenging for some tourists to take money out of an ATM. I'll be staying in Myeongdong. Is this still an issue in Seoul?

Am I better off taking USD or Thai baht to exchange there?[/QUOTE]Info is from 2015. Should still be valid.

There are tons of ATMs around. You will be able to find the ones that work. The ones at the airport and Costco works. The ones at Itaewon should work. All Citibank ATMs will work. In the subway stations and elsewhere, some of the ATMs will have a sign that states "Global ATM"; those will work.

There should still be a black market for US hundred dollar bills. You get a slightly better rate. In Namdaemun market, there will be old ladies sitting on stools asking for hundred dollar bills.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2323922]The ones at the airport and Costco works. <snip> All Citibank ATMs will work. In the subway stations and elsewhere, some of the ATMs will have a sign that states "Global ATM"; those will work.[/QUOTE]There are Costco's in Seoul. Nice! Thanks Greenbud and Blanqui. I feel better now. Did exchange some Korean Won yesterday and will bring some USD if needed.

Seems like the Seoul scene is as good as dead for cute young girls under 25 max. Unfortunate. I guess I'll be sight seeing and looking for a Kiss Bang on my own.

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;2323803]Ok, I was playing around with google translate and I understand the translation, which I think means unlimited. Would still love some feedback from you all on what you think of the opstar advertisements. Is it worthwhile trying to pursue an appointment through them?[/QUOTE]I found difficult to decode the actual address. So, I tried sending text (in Korean, using translator) to some of them. Either no response or they don't entertain foreigners.

How to find officetel girls? Is there any site?

[QUOTE=Taehyun;2324116]I found difficult to decode the actual address. So, I tried sending text (in Korean, using translator) to some of them. Either no response or they don't entertain foreigners.

How to find officetel girls? Is there any site?[/QUOTE]Some officetel's will not respond to text, or they won't reply to numbers they don't know. About a year and a half ago, some places started to be more selective due to police cracking down more. Assuming you get a reply, at some point you will need to call them, or they will call you to get the actual location and room, so if you don't speak Korean (or understand Korean), you won't be able to get very far.

If you're in Seoul for an extended period of time, start practicing your korean.

By the time you start comfortably ordering food delivery on the phone and you know the number / address system, communicating with officetel and lip cafe managers will be a breeze (though your first few times might be a bust).

The other method is to find a korean speaker who can vouch for you and book an appointment for you.

Looking to get back into the scene. A few years ago was here, and visited some anmas. Based on what I'm reading, it sounds like they have moved to a different way of doing things, more public based acts, although still within their own building. I visited Eve Anma (RIP) which was 2 or 3 girls depending on time and had an amazing time, but that's closed down. Seems Ace might be the same way in terms of service, but haven't seen reports on that in a while. Anyone have Intel on that these days?

I am thinking of going to fish or castle for now and seeing about Ace depending on what people say.

Thanks for any help that can be provided. Info on current kiss bangs or how I can get some discreet during the day fun, as I am travelling with family, would be appreciated!

[QUOTE=RainMania;2324460]If you're in Seoul for an extended period of time, start practicing your korean.

By the time you start comfortably ordering food delivery on the phone and you know the number / address system, communicating with officetel and lip cafe managers will be a breeze (though your first few times might be a bust).

The other method is to find a korean speaker who can vouch for you and book an appointment for you.[/QUOTE]RM is correct, A little homework goes a long way. Hast makes waste they say.

The threats on other areas are old, so even when Adam Techno Valley is not Seoul. I am posting here. There are many Massage places in Asan Tecno Valley, and most of them advertise in English, and some say welcome foreigners. I went to Myeong. Something Massage on a 2nd floor of this building. They have a huge bill boat outside on top of building. As I came in there were 3 ladies scantily clad around the front desk managed by a guy. They have a course menu which I could not read but went for the "top" service. It was overall a great experience except the lady tried to get more money from me (Besides a tip). They are Chinese and guess their tipping culture is not as Korea. I recommend the place. Anyone knows of any other places in Asan Techno Valley that are worthy? Any Kiss Salons?. I drive around Dunpo-myeon the other day and some places look promising but did not try.

Hey Leah,

Saw your site says you're away, getting back soon or is this a long term trip?

I'd send you a pm, but not a premium member and hesitant about paying for membership with a credit card.

[QUOTE=Leahchoi;2314069]Cheonho and other RLD's workers are getting a compensation from Government, if in case if they decide to step out to normal life and settle down with normal job (hair, nail etc), probably many of them did.

Those money comes from taxes, so many locals aren't happy about it.

Anyway RLDs will be gone.

Never pay via bank transfer. If there's no record it should be OK even if establishment will bust earlier or later. One is currently under investigation BTW.[/QUOTE]
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Greetings,

Let me address your concerns about using a credit card to purchase a subscription.

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In addition, the forum's servers are located in Hamburg, Germany, safely outside the USA legal system, and in a country where commercial sex is legal.

4. [i]Is there a possibility that I will take your money and disappear?[/i] No. This has been a membership website for several years, and nobody here has ever reported a single problem with using their credit card to purchase a subscription. Believe me, if there had ever been a problem, it would have been reported it here.

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Thanks,

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I've spent so much time to find any pleasure house in Seoul. Information online is quite old and outdated. I found myself Anma in Gangnam area is the best option to buy Sex in Seoul. A few places have their own website but they are in Japanese. Only Castle anma near the Seolleung Station (Subway #2 line) has both Japanese and English so you can check out the courses and price.

[URL]https://www.castleanma.com[/URL]

I had a great time there. They have so-called the club style course referring to orgy and I loved it. Only problem is they charged me more that they wrote on the website. I heard that the Korean girls in the house having a hard time to deal with western style big Pen. So they ask additional charge to Western guys. It seems like a custom there. Not only Castle but also other places do same thing. However it is worthy of paying that money. Soooooo good! Sooooo great!

[QUOTE=BlueKona007;2324930]I've spent so much time to find any pleasure house in Seoul. Information online is quite old and outdated. I found myself Anma in Gangnam area is the best option to buy Sex in Seoul. A few places have their own website but they are in Japanese. Only Castle anma near the Seolleung Station (Subway #2 line) has both Japanese and English so you can check out the courses and price.

[URL]https://www.castleanma.com[/URL]

I had a great time there. They have so-called the club style course referring to orgy and I loved it. Only problem is they charged me more that they wrote on the website. I heard that the Korean girls in the house having a hard time to deal with western style big Pen. So they ask additional charge to Western guys. It seems like a custom there. Not only Castle but also other places do same thing. However it is worthy of paying that money. Soooooo good! Sooooo great![/QUOTE]Glad to hear.

BTW what was the damage? Website it's mentioned 260 K around.

[QUOTE=BlueKona007;2324930]I've spent so much time to find any pleasure house in Seoul. Information online is quite old and outdated. I found myself Anma in Gangnam area is the best option to buy Sex in Seoul. A few places have their own website but they are in Japanese. Only Castle anma near the Seolleung Station (Subway #2 line) has both Japanese and English so you can check out the courses and price.

[URL]https://www.castleanma.com[/URL]

I had a great time there. They have so-called the club style course referring to orgy and I loved it. Only problem is they charged me more that they wrote on the website. I heard that the Korean girls in the house having a hard time to deal with western style big Pen. So they ask additional charge to Western guys. It seems like a custom there. Not only Castle but also other places do same thing. However it is worthy of paying that money. Soooooo good! Sooooo great![/QUOTE]Sounds to me like a Korean FKK.

[QUOTE=FacelessBoy;2324514]

Thanks for any help that can be provided. Info on current kiss bangs or how I can get some discreet during the day fun, as I am travelling with family, would be appreciated![/QUOTE]Are some of you guys successful at getting more than kisses or pecks on the cheeks at kiss bangs? From what I've read the girls hesitate to give much action. Are there any proven reliable ones out there? I hear Sillim is the llace to go.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2325965]Are some of you guys successful at getting more than kisses or pecks on the cheeks at kiss bangs? From what I've read the girls hesitate to give much action. Are there any proven reliable ones out there? I hear Sillim is the llace to go.[/QUOTE]It's going to vary from girl to girl. If you are looking for guaranteed FS, there are other places to go (anmas) that won't waste your time.

How do the girls in an Anma look compared to top looking girls you see shopping on Myeongdong Street? Is there a good Anma or Kissbang near Myeongdong station?

I'm willing to hpbby if someone directs me to some cute young girls but until then I am enjoying my Korean food.

I'm planning on visiting Seoul in a week. Would appreciate any tips I get for some good action. Anma is definitely on my list.

Kiss bang seems intriguing. I definitely want to try that. Any suggestion around that will be highly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2301837]Curious, are you Asian? IF so, you have a distinct advantage.... [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yuiop69;2300676]It has been a time since anyone posted on Miari RLD. BUt it is still going strong ....[/QUOTE]No I am about as un-Asian as they come. But I never felt I was at much of a disadvantage.

First the area is huge. At least several dozen establishments if not more. So there is choice.

Second, whenever I go. I don't think there are lots of other customers around. So they are eager for business.

Third as you walk by, either the Mamasan waves at you or doesn't. Maybe 1 in 4 do in the main alleys, but in the back alleys, the Mamasan are even more welcoming.

[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2326196]It's going to vary from girl to girl. If you are looking for guaranteed FS, there are other places to go (anmas) that won't waste your time.[/QUOTE]Yes the Anmas are guaranteed but at a steep price and you probably could get youmger university girls working at kiss bangs. I'm sure it varies and / or good fortune.

[QUOTE=Yuiop69;2326420]No I am about as un-Asian as they come. But I never felt I was at much of a disadvantage.

First the area is huge. At least several dozen establishments if not more. So there is choice.

Second, whenever I go. I don't think there are lots of other customers around. So they are eager for business.

Third as you walk by, either the Mamasan waves at you or doesn't. Maybe 1 in 4 do in the main alleys, but in the back alleys, the Mamasan are even more welcoming.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Miari in a long time, but the last time I went, most of the girls were just meh to me in terms of looks. Has that changed?

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;2323670]Unfortunately I can't read Hangul. I used google translate to generate the Hangul but the search didn't return anything useful. However, in digging through the forum I did find opstar, which looks great except the ads are images, not text, so I can't translate them! The main thing I want to know is the course and program details. For example there is an entry for 260 k won, 120 minutes, and then this in Korean:

무 한 코 스 What does this mean? And what do you guys think of the places advertised on opstar?[/QUOTE]It's kind of like termless or limitless course of study. Were you referring to an online course in Korean?

[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2326540]I haven't been to Miari in a long time, but the last time I went, most of the girls were just meh to me in terms of looks. Has that changed?[/QUOTE]It is and has been 'meh' for years. Compare the number of establishments to the darkened whole and a depressing reality emerges.

Walking around myeongdong tonight. Are any of these kiss bang clubs? If not, what are they? I know the last one says karaoke bar.

If they aren't kiss bang places I'll ask for a third time hoping someone will share info. Where are they?

They are all singing karaoke bars, the difference is only amount of drinks and snacks. There's another signs for kissbangs.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2327244]Walking around myeongdong tonight. Are any of these kiss bang clubs? If not, what are they? I know the last one says karaoke bar.

If they aren't kiss bang places I'll ask for a third time hoping someone will share info. Where are they?[/QUOTE]

I just visited Castle and enjoyed a lot. Girls are beautiful and Club system is fantastic! There is a male staff whose name is Jay who speaks some English. Although his English is a little broken, I had no problem in communication with him. He is so kind and funny. Now Castle Anma is so hot in Singapore. Probably most famous Korean sex house in Singapore.

I paid the price that they wrote on the website but heard that they charge more money to non-Asian customers. I found that it is kind of a custom of Korean sex business. I know it is not fair but still a lot better than Japan. When I visited Japan and tried the sex houses, they would not accept foreign customers at all regardless how much I will pay.

I also visited Donuts anma not far from Castle but they talked me in Japanese no body speaks English at all. I got an impression that they care about only Japanese customers since I sow several Japanese in the shower room. The quality of girls were not that good.

Anybody thinking about enjoying Korean night life. Please check Castle out. You can get the information from following website. [URL]Https://www.castleanma.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=Merlion8292;2327519]I just visited Castle and enjoyed a lot. Girls are beautiful and Club system is fantastic! There is a male staff whose name is Jay who speaks some English. Although his English is a little broken, I had no problem in communication with him. He is so kind and funny. Now Castle Anma is so hot in Singapore. Probably most famous Korean sex house in Singapore.

I paid the price that they wrote on the website but heard that they charge more money to non-Asian customers. I found that it is kind of a custom of Korean sex business. I know it is not fair but still a lot better than Japan. When I visited Japan and tried the sex houses, they would not accept foreign customers at all regardless how much I will pay.

I also visited Donuts anma not far from Castle but they talked me in Japanese no body speaks English at all. I got an impression that they care about only Japanese customers since I sow several Japanese in the shower room. The quality of girls were not that good.

Anybody thinking about enjoying Korean night life. Please check Castle out. You can get the information from following website. [URL]Https://www.castleanma.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]All girls are Korean?

Price of 1 pop (20-30 mins) with a MR escort: 300 k won.

Price of airline tickets to Manila for 10 days in August: 180 k (AirAsia), 280 k (Asiana), 300 k (Korean Air).

Ticket to Bangkok for the same period: 270 k (Jeju Air), 350 k (Jin Air), 450 k (Asiana).

Hotel fee in Manila for 10 days: 200 k (3 star) to 1 million won (5 star).

Hotel fee in Bangkok for 10 days: around the same.

Budget 10 day trip to Manila in August if I book now: 380 k won flights and hotel.

If I want a bit of comfort and luxury: 700 k won flights and hotel.

Price of overnight girls in Manila: anything from 30 k won to 100 k won.

Girls in Bangkok overnight: higher, 50k won to 300k won

These are the most expensive cities to stay in their respective countries, which means there are much cheaper options with endless possibilities.

STOP getting scammed in Korea.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2327702]All girls are Korean?[/QUOTE]As long as I know all girls in Castle are Korean.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2327929]Price of 1 pop (20-30 mins) with a MR escort: 300 k won.

Price of airline tickets to Manila for 10 days in August: 180 k (AirAsia), 280 k (Asiana), 300 k (Korean Air).

Ticket to Bangkok for the same period: 270 k (Jeju Air), 350 k (Jin Air), 450 k (Asiana).

Hotel fee in Manila for 10 days: 200 k (3 star) to 1 million won (5 star).

Hotel fee in Bangkok for 10 days: around the same.

Budget 10 day trip to Manila in August if I book now: 380 k won flights and hotel.

If I want a bit of comfort and luxury: 700 k won flights and hotel.

Price of overnight girls in Manila: anything from 30 k won to 100 k won.

Girls in Bangkok overnight: higher, 50k won to 300k won

These are the most expensive cities to stay in their respective countries, which means there are much cheaper options with endless possibilities.

STOP getting scammed in Korea.[/QUOTE]Thank you to the voice of reason. Business is down here all around as the Korean gents are going to the aforementioned places as well to avoid the ridiculous domestic pricing. Anmas are openly advertising for non-Koreans to fill the void. They are also asking for the foreigner surcharge as it is a normal thing to ask for. No thank you. Those anmas have trolls on here with one post each advocating how great they are and encouraging acceptance of the foreigner tax. When is the last time you had a truly memorable experience with a Korean provider? Now, when is also the last time you had a memorable experience with a non-Korean provider? Save your money and avoid disappointment and go to the southeast Asia.

General Info (updated May 2019).

For newcomers:

LIP Csfes (50 k).

Blowjob room, requires call reservation.

<Pros .

- Cheap.

- Girls range from good to hot.

- can choose girl via call.

<Cons .

- 20 minutes (reality 15 minutes).

- Robotic, No GFE.

- Switches to handjobs after 5 minutes.

KISS BANGS (70 k).

Rooms to make out and cuddle with girls under 30, takes walk ins and call reservations.

<Pros .

- Girls range from good to hot.

- 50 minutes.

- can choose girl via call.

<Cons .

- No sexual services (without extra tip ie 50 k for handjob).

HYUGETELS (100 k).

Full service with older Koreans (34 - 45 yo).

Or non Koreans ( 30 yo), takes walk ins and reservations.

<Pros .

- 50 minutes (minus 5 min shower), 60 two shots for 150 k.

- Reasonable price for time.

- OK to hot (Non Korean SO).

- can choose girl via call.

<Cons .

- Girls rate from mediocre to ok (Korean SO).

RED LIGHT DISTRICT (80 k).

Foreigners allowed in earlier hours.

<Pros .

- You choose the girl.

- Girls rate from OK to good.

- Better experience for repeat customers (BBFS, GFE).

<Cons .

- Bad cost to time value.

- 20 minutes.

- Not foreigner friendly in peak hours.

- Have to travel a ways.

OFFICETEL (130 k + 2 7 tip) min.

The pinnacle of Korean GFE, no foreigners allowed, call reservation needed.

<Pros .

- Best option for GFE at apartment setting.

- The #1 place for Korean hotties.

- Girls range from good to amazing.

- No girls over 30.

- You have to choose your girl via call.

- 60 minutes (90 minutes for 200 k + tip).

<Cons .

- For most places, you have to prove you're not a cop to the mob with papers or ID (use at own risk).

- Expensive.

- Mandatory tip (little difference in girl hotness over +3 tip).

- New girls might not provide the best service.

GUNMA (130 k ) hyu.

Massage and sex, call reservation needed.

<Pros .

- Quality 60 min massage and 20 min service.

- Girls range from good to amazing.

- You can choose your girl via call.

- Different options (two shots, relay, handjob).

- Daytime discounts.

<Cons .

- Kinda dark during service.

- If only interested in sex, bad cost-time value.

ANMA (200 k ).

Go to officetels to be treated like a boyfriend, go to anmas to be treated like a king, foreigners allowed in only selected places.

<Pros .

- Porno like service.

- Many different concepts and events (club orgy, threesome, relay, angel, nuru).

- Many different options (two shots, unlimited shots, threesomes, daytime discounts).

- Girls rate from good to amazing.

- Can choose your girl via call (+10 k fee).

- 60 minutes (two shots 70 minutes for 230 k, unlimited shots 80 mins for 260 k).

<Cons .

- Most expensive.

- Wait times can be long during peak hours.

- Non East Asians can be turned away at the door.

Barbershop (110 k) no.

Double spinning barber poles.

<Pros .

- Good service.

- Many different locations.

- Girls range from bad to OK.

<Cons .

- Bad money value (110 k for 50 minutes for OK girl).

- can't choose girl.

- Girls are mediocre at best.

I think everything is worth trying at least once for the experience, but personally I couldn't recommend anything outside of officetels, anmas, and gunmas. If you want the best Korea has to offer, you will need to pass as Korean or have a Korean friend to help you. I wonder where you could find one IG.

[QUOTE=SeoulSex;2328228]General Info (updated May 2019).

For newcomers:

LIP Csfes (50 k).

[/QUOTE]Epic post.

I'm now seeing 'independents' asking for extra for incalls, because they have to book the motel room, after asking you to pay 250-300 k for one pop haha!

[QUOTE=Waygook12;2328029]Thank you to the voice of reason. Business is down here all around as the Korean gents are going to the aforementioned places as well to avoid the ridiculous domestic pricing. Anmas are openly advertising for non-Koreans to fill the void. They are also asking for the foreigner surcharge as it is a normal thing to ask for. No thank you. Those anmas have trolls on here with one post each advocating how great they are and encouraging acceptance of the foreigner tax. When is the last time you had a truly memorable experience with a Korean provider? Now, when is also the last time you had a memorable experience with a non-Korean provider? Save your money and avoid disappointment and go to the southeast Asia.[/QUOTE]Yep!

Korean guys are literally flooding SE Asian destinations. From your local bus driver, to the guy running your local GS25, to salarymen and even jobless university students and recent graduates. There is such a big supply of k-mongerers even some local women have become 'exclusive' providers to koreans. Exclusive in very loose terms because most of these women don't really give a shit about your nationality, just your money.

In many cases these guys are leaving their wives and gfs behind to party for 3-10 days, some even take their spouses with them. I've seen a few korean women in Pattaya and Angeles city clubs, partying in a group of guys and local freelancers.

What is the consensus on here about the Massage Republic girls? L am specifically talking about the ones who list themselves as Korean.

L messaged several of them last week, then something happened. One of the girls took exception to me using some Korean (serious, she was that petty), and started getting really personal with me. After a few back and forth the other girls.

Started emailing me as well and were referencing things that were in the emails between me and said first girl. Also the first girl was referencing things that l had not sent, disclosed or asked her as yet, it was all very strange and left me thinking that either a) this is the same girl operating under different aliases, b) the girls are all in cahoots with each other. The debacle finished with me concluding that, ultimately, what does it matter what the details are no way l am going with any of these girls regardless.

Some of the girls listed have good reviews but to all intents and purposes it is probably pretty easy to leave a review on MR so how can you tell?

Broadly speaking what do you guys think of the girls on there? Have you had good experiences or is it a scam? I am already highly suspicious.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SeoulSex;2328228]General Info (updated May 2019).
Many different concepts and events (club orgy, threesome, relay, angel, nuru).
[/QUOTE]Please say more about these concepts.

Where do Lip cafes or any other club advertise? Thanks.