FKK Artemis - Berlin

Law very active. Every girls I talked to on Wednesday. Only CBJ. And every girls said its the new rule and they can't do anything about it.

It sucked.

Went only for a half hour with blinde german Blair. Was OK. But glad I left early that day.

Well from now on I think I can save money and don't go to artemis again on my business trips to Berlin.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2071179]Heading over shortly. I've always enjoyed the club despite the grief it gets from the Hessen and NRW fans.
Can any seniors report on anything or any girl of note around presently?
Lillia present? Joanna? Kirsty? Celia? Ruby?

Is the law active (wasn't the last time I was present).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2071179]Heading over shortly. I've always enjoyed the club despite the grief it gets from the Hessen and NRW fans.
Can any seniors report on anything or any girl of note around presently?
Lillia present? Joanna? Kirsty? Celia? Ruby?

Is the law active (wasn't the last time I was present).[/QUOTE]No idea for the new law, just I visited this club may be 8 times last one was in June and never sessioned any girl, why just because the girls are not looking fresh for me, older than in Hessen clubs, quite aggressive, but the premises are nice and the food is good.

[QUOTE=BigDaddyStr;2071463]Law very active. Every girls I talked to on Wednesday. Only CBJ.

Went only for a half hour with blinde german Blair. Was OK. But glad I left early that day.[/QUOTE]So it has come to this. Only the blind girls will do BBBJ. Well if they can't see what they're sucking, they can't be penalized for it.

They say the best masseuses are blind. They really concentrate on the touch sensations. What about blowjobs? Maybe this is a good business idea, all-blind FKKs.

BigDaddy. Good to get your update. Thanks. I was planning an Artemis trip but with it costing 140 euro for the first 30 minutes (factor in entry)) will abandon the idea. Maybe Vienna beckons (but not GoldenTime)

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2071179]Heading over shortly. I've always enjoyed the club despite the grief it gets from the Hessen and NRW fans.
Can any seniors report on anything or any girl of note around presently?
Lillia present? Joanna? Kirsty? Celia? Ruby?

Is the law active (wasn't the last time I was present).[/QUOTE]Artemis is dead.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2071553]BigDaddy. Good to get your update. Thanks. I was planning an Artemis trip but with it costing 140 euro for the first 30 minutes (factor in entry)) will abandon the idea. Maybe Vienna beckons (but not GoldenTime)[/QUOTE]Yes good idea. Artemis is now quite expensive and most of the girls are behaving and looking like veteran of the P6 scene.

[QUOTE=BigDaddyStr;2071463]Law very active. Every girls I talked to on Wednesday. Only CBJ. And every girls said its the new rule and they can't do anything about it.[/QUOTE]Do they still offer CIM as extra? Sound strange they will give up the 50 E.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2071717]Artemis is dead.[/QUOTE]How is that?

[QUOTE=Nono321;2071822]How is that?[/QUOTE]It is a CBJ club according to report.

If you want CBJ then Artemis is place to be.

Ruby is now working in Hamburg.

Its the law. Aren't they all CBJ? Whether that happens or not is then the decision of the lady in question.

[QUOTE=FMoreau;2071726]Do they still offer CIM as extra? Sound strange they will give up the 50 E.[/QUOTE]No more BBBJ and CIM in principle after.

Hello folks,

I'm visiting Germany end of this month. I will be in brunswick and will have free 24 hrs. Either I decide to travel to Frankfurt (400 km) to go to Oase or other option is Artemis in Berlin (150 km). My return flight is from Berlin and I can't risk to be in Frankfurt, get delayed and miss my return flight from Berlin. I m excited to go to Artemis it will be my 2nd trip but reports here suggesting that Artemis is 'dead' that a huge statement if the reason for such statements is BBBJ because that's manageable and it depends on preferences. Someone reported that he spend €140 just in entering. So many news can someone wisely state the fact that it is OK to visit Artemis with only BBBJ limitations otherwise everything else is normal which includes entrance €80.

Secondly can someone tell me what are the lingerie day as I hope I can avoid that. Last is the Garden / open air side open to take girls and fuck them in open air considering summers or its only in rooms?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=PKMongerer123;2072546]So many news can someone wisely state the fact that it is OK to visit Artemis with only BBBJ limitations otherwise everything else is normal which includes entrance 80.[/QUOTE]Entrance fee is 80 Euro. Nothing changed. At the end of the month most of the girls will be back from vacation. IFA exhibition starts September 1. Expect CBJ.

[QUOTE=PKMongerer123;2072546]Secondly can someone tell me what are the lingerie day as I hope I can avoid that.[/QUOTE]Wednesday is lingerie day.

[QUOTE=PKMongerer123;2072546]Last is the Garden / open air side open to take girls and fuck them in open air considering summers or its only in rooms?[/QUOTE]Once upon a time. Sex in public is very unusual in Artemis. Maybe it's a good idea to ask the girl in advance.

PK. When I said 140, that was what the entrance plus one session of 30 minutes (no extras) would cost. I didn't mean entry cost 140. Sorry if I confused you

Entrance alone is 80.

Thanks! This is a relief to know that Artemis still remains one of top 5 FKKs in Germany and BBBJ restriction is a fact and I think facts cannot be challenged! Lets make the most out of it. Thanks for clarifying about the entrance. Who ever visiting, lets look fwd.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2072712]Entrance fee is 80 Euro. Nothing changed. At the end of the month most of the girls will be back from vacation. IFA exhibition starts September 1. Expect CBJ.

Wednesday is lingerie day.

Once upon a time. Sex in public is very unusual in Artemis. Maybe it's a good idea to ask the girl in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2071958]Ruby is now working in Hamburg.[/QUOTE]Not on Monday night she wasn't! She was in the bar with her usual buddy Celia. Without headband but still sporting her trademark fishnets.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2071717]Artemis is dead.[/QUOTE]2 nights in Artemis. The club is NOT dead! It is quiet as it is August and the girls often go on vacation but even on Sunday and Monday nights the club had enough girls worth taking to the rooms. Had a total of 4 rooms. No names for this reason. CBJ is the law. But if you know the girl.

The club had a lot of guys present. The girls looked happy as everyone (almost) was getting rooms. Sure it's not what it is (or was) but still great if you are a tourist.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2072768]2 nights in Artemis. The club is NOT dead! It is quiet as it is August and the girls often go on vacation but even on Sunday and Monday nights the club had enough girls worth taking to the rooms. Had a total of 4 rooms. No names for this reason. CBJ is the law. But if you know the girl.

The club had a lot of guys present. The girls looked happy as everyone (almost) was getting rooms. Sure it's not what it is (or was) but still great if you are a tourist.[/QUOTE]I was in Artemis today and the club was a susage club, there are time when I see 40 men and only 4 women, and if I go out all men, down stairs all men, so I think its really dead at least for the time I was there which was 10 pm till 1 am, I know its possible to have a session with a nice girl for a good price, BUT I saw tens of mens walking and walking around for long time searching for the girl they like but dont find it , diffenintly not the FKK scene I used to, I had no session and left, I liked one girl only but she was super busy, what happen to the club! I have no idea. I will visit again tomorrow with low expectations, I hope for better experience, I will share it with you guys.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2072780]I was in Artemis today and the club was a susage club, there are time when I see 40 men and only 4 women, and if I go out all men, down stairs all men, so I think its really dead at least for the time I was there which was 10 pm till 1 am, I know its possible to have a session with a nice girl for a good price, BUT I saw tens of mens walking and walking around for long time searching for the girl they like but dont find it , diffenintly not the FKK scene I used to, I had no session and left, I liked one girl only but she was super busy, what happen to the club! I have no idea. I will visit again tomorrow with low expectations, I hope for better experience, I will share it with you guys.[/QUOTE]Nothing new for me, except asking high entry fee.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2072780]I was in Artemis today and the club was a susage club, there are time when I see 40 men and only 4 women, and if I go out all men, down stairs all men, so I think its really dead at least for the time I was there which was 10 pm till 1 am, I know its possible to have a session with a nice girl for a good price, BUT I saw tens of mens walking and walking around for long time searching for the girl they like but dont find it , diffenintly not the FKK scene I used to, I had no session and left, I liked one girl only but she was super busy, what happen to the club! I have no idea. I will visit again tomorrow with low expectations, I hope for better experience, I will share it with you guys.[/QUOTE]It is a shame like always with this club, except asking high entry fee the management is doing nothing, when there are not enough girls they should explain it before we pay, but they don t care and I don t care also and as already shared I will never but never visit this cheating club again.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2072780]I was in Artemis today and the club was a susage club, there are time when I see 40 men and only 4 women, and if I go out all men, down stairs all men, so I think its really dead at least for the time I was there which was 10 pm till 1 am, I know its possible to have a session with a nice girl for a good price, BUT I saw tens of mens walking and walking around for long time searching for the girl they like but dont find it , diffenintly not the FKK scene I used to, I had no session and left, I liked one girl only but she was super busy, what happen to the club! I have no idea. I will visit again tomorrow with low expectations, I hope for better experience, I will share it with you guys.[/QUOTE]Well who want to go to CBJ club LOL.

4 WGs' only! That's serious now. The website claims that at any time there are between 80-120 ladies. Please please update tomorrow on the situation. Hope you have a good time.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2072780]I was in Artemis today and the club was a susage club, there are time when I see 40 men and only 4 women, and if I go out all men, down stairs all men, so I think its really dead at least for the time I was there which was 10 pm till 1 am, I know its possible to have a session with a nice girl for a good price, BUT I saw tens of mens walking and walking around for long time searching for the girl they like but dont find it , diffenintly not the FKK scene I used to, I had no session and left, I liked one girl only but she was super busy, what happen to the club! I have no idea. I will visit again tomorrow with low expectations, I hope for better experience, I will share it with you guys.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrHo;2072832]Well who want to go to CBJ club LOL.[/QUOTE]Please advice as to German guaranteed non-CBJ club?

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2072766]Not on Monday night she wasn't![/QUOTE]Confirm that. Ruby is still working at A.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2072780]I was in Artemis today and the club was a susage club, there are time when I see 40 men and only 4 women, .... which was 10 pm till 1 am.[/QUOTE]The usual rush between 10 pm an 2 am. Nothing new.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2071958]Ruby is now working in Hamburg.[/QUOTE]Based on your trip report in the FKK Babylon (Hamburg) thread, do you mean to say Spanish/Romanian Ruby from FKK Palace is now in Hamburg? She's dark haired and gypsy looking; has a few tats and likes anal play. So kind of fits your description.

It seems Blonde Romanian Ruby is still at Artemis per PayForIt and Pharisaer.

Howie.

Please update? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2072780] I will visit again tomorrow with low expectations, I hope for better experience, I will share it with you guys.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2072768]2 nights in Artemis. ... but still great if you are a tourist.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is true. Unfortunately not everyone is a regular.

I was in Artemis last year in August and it was nearly the same situation, not as many girls as I expected for the whole bunch of guys. So why are many girls on Vacation at the same time?

What happened with all the girls who are queuing to work in Artemis, but can't get in?

Call them right now! Go to Berlin! Your chance to make a lot of money! You are needed!

I agree that Artemis has still to offer some fun. Would luv to be there.

[QUOTE=Howie;2073133]Based on your trip report in the FKK Babylon (Hamburg) thread, do you mean to say Spanish/Romanian Ruby from FKK Palace is now in Hamburg? She's dark haired and gypsy looking; has a few tats and likes anal play. So kind of fits your description.

It seems Blonde Romanian Ruby is still at Artemis per PayForIt and Pharisaer.

Howie.[/QUOTE]That sounds like her although I've not been to Palace for a while so don't know if she worked there! I guess you must be right!

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2073357]That sounds like her although I've not been to Palace for a while so don't know if she worked there! I guess you must be right![/QUOTE]To clarify if it is Palace Ruby, did she have tattoos of a bow tie behind each of her thighs?

Howie.

I visited Artemis on the 15th and 16th of August with a friend of mine. Last trips were middle of the road affairs, not great and not overly bad either. This time around I finally decided to stop visiting Artemis. Not because of the ban, which seems that everybody in Artemis needs to mention but because the place is dead. Due to vacations most of the girls I use to session with are gone. Which on the other hand is OK, because I was ready for something new and was growing bored from same old crew.

I was in mood for some milfs which Artemis has more and more of for each year. Yeah, I am totally sarcastic here. Me and my buddy split up in the bar and compared the mental notes later in the bar by the pool on the first floor.

On Tuesday I only sessioned with Elena. Otherwise no other girls attracted me. This is the only time in my punting career that I just sessioned with one girl before leaving the premises. Simply put. The good girls were busy all the time and the only free girls are the ones that experienced punters avoid as plague.

Wednesday. I arrived at 17:00. They had barbecue menu which is better than the usual fair but nothing special to be honest. I was just too lazy to go find some better place to eat instead. It was dessous day. And I have to say that most of the girls really picked up the most boring outfits ever. You can see more sexy and revealing bikinis on a normal European beach. Also the lack of girls is telling. At 19:00 there was 13 girls in the bar against around 30 customers. Those 13 either talked together or were trying unsuccessfully to seduce someone for some zimmer time. It seemed as both clients and girls were totally bored.

Don't remember the name. I was too brutalized by the experience.

First one was one of the older German girls that have been in Artemis forever. Claimed early 30's but in good light when I could study her properly I would see that she was probably early or middle 40's. Now, I don't mind older girls since you may learn thing or two from them, but entire experience went downhill really quickly. Her breath was strange with metallic smell to it. Luckily I am not into kissing wgs so this was just slightly off putting. Then she gave me covered blowjob, richly using her teeth and mentioning every minute whether I was cumming. After perhaps 3 minutes and complaints from me that my private parts are getting scars from the treatment she shifted over to handjob / blowjob mix. Now, let us for moment ignore the dishonesty of using this trick. What happened next is that her perception of giving HJ involves brutal pulls of your private parts trying to separate them from the rest of your body. At this point I said, to hell with this and took the 60 euro loss. "Maybe I see you later honey", she asked after she got paid. "Not as long as I am conscious," was my answer.

Gabrialla (Poland).

Totally not my type, but truly a pleasant surprise. I picked her because she totally looked and gave different vibe than the she-devil from before. Early 30's I would say, of average looks. Works alone. The english is not her strong side but she knows enough for basic communication. With her personality it is shame I don't know german. I suspect I would have enjoyed myself more. She really worked well to give me a good experience. I only have the respect for the lady.

I sessioned with Elena again despite her getting me on my nerves with her attempts at seducing the customer.

In other news they seem to be renovating the restaurant. Some of the painting on the wall seems really nice artistically so far.

All in all, this was the worst trip to Artemis ever. Yes I know it is summer and not all girls are not back but at this point I have been with all the girls that are even remotely attractive to me and the ones I have not been together with are the type I am not even willing to be paid for to go to zimmer with. Time to move on.

Thank you for the report. Quite disappointing to read! I will be there around 2-3rd Sept. Hoping girls return from vacations by than. Will keep all posted.

[QUOTE=VaeVictis;2073483]I visited Artemis on the 15th and 16th of August with a friend of mine. Last trips were middle of the road affairs, not great and not overly bad either. This time around I finally decided to stop visiting Artemis. Not because of the ban, which seems that everybody in Artemis needs to mention but because the place is dead. Due to vacations most of the girls I use to session with are gone. Which on the other hand is OK, because I was ready for something new and was growing bored from same old crew.

I was in mood for some milfs which Artemis has more and more of for each year. Yeah, I am totally sarcastic here. Me and my buddy split up in the bar and compared the mental notes later in the bar by the pool on the first floor.

On Tuesday I only sessioned with Elena. Otherwise no other girls attracted me. This is the only time in my punting career that I just sessioned with one girl before leaving the premises. Simply put. The good girls were busy all the time and the only free girls are the ones that experienced punters avoid as plague.

Wednesday...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PKMongerer123;2073668]Thank you for the report. Quite disappointing to read! I will be there around 2-3rd Sept. Hoping girls return from vacations by than. Will keep all posted.[/QUOTE]Even all the girls return from vacations and new girls are coming, I will never visit this club again so expensive compare to Hessen one and for me no fresh girl all are veteran of the P6 scene I never felt any erotic in this club.

[QUOTE=PKMongerer123;2073668]Thank you for the report. Quite disappointing to read! I will be there around 2-3rd Sept. Hoping girls return from vacations by than. Will keep all posted.[/QUOTE]As I mentioned before (see post #9984), IFA starts Sep 01. House will be crowded for sure, at least after 8 pm. Enjoy your stay.

[QUOTE=VaeVictis;2073483]Wednesday. I arrived at 17:00. ... Also the lack of girls is telling. At 19:00 there was 13 girls in the bar against around 30 customers.[/QUOTE]A ratio of 0,43 girls per guest isn't so bad. I didn't count them, but there were between 30 and 40 girls working at cited time at Wednesday.

[QUOTE=Vccccc;2071141]I am going to visit FKK Artemis on Saturday or / and Sunday next week and this will be my first visit of this club. I am looking for very slim (even skinny) girls with small tits, who are younger than 30. On the web site of the club they mention that there are 80-120 working girls every day. The question to the frequent visitors of this club: how many girls of my type may I expect to see during my visit?[/QUOTE]Hello Vccccc,

I am sure you will find at least one or two to your taste.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2073843]As I mentioned before (see post #9984), IFA starts Sep 01. House will be crowded for sure, at least after 8 pm. Enjoy your stay.

A ratio of 0,43 girls per guest isn't so bad. I didn't count them, but there were between 30 and 40 girls working at cited time at Wednesday.[/QUOTE]Merci Pharisaer,

And remember, not all guys in a FKK Club are there for the one on one pleasure. Some only hang around, watching, showering, wanking. And don't forget a few security guys playing punter, observing discreetly in they robes, to guarantee everybody's safety.

Personally, I would love to be there.

[QUOTE=PKMongerer123;2073219]Please update? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Visit it again, it was the same but less crowded, so more girls were available, BUT I almost left with no session until I saw a girl I like and it was average session, so it was 2 days with only one session, I have 4 more days in Berlin but I have no desire to visit artemis, it was a big failure.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2073843]A

A ratio of 0,43 girls per guest isn't so bad. I didn't count them, but there were between 30 and 40 girls working at cited time at Wednesday.[/QUOTE]Even if you count cleaning stuff and ladies working the bar there was not 40 women working the floor at that time. That would imply that 27 women were either in Kino or being in rooms and there simply was not that much traffic to and from rooms. And 0,43 girls per guest is not bad, after all you need only 1 right girl to have great time but with that few girls to go around it is undeniably harder to find suitable match or waiting time for the girl to become available is longer. But that was not the point of my post, it is summertime after all. I simply consider Artemis uninteresting FKK at this moment. Even girls were complaining of the place being different than few years back so it is not just me.

At first, just for clarification purposes:

[QUOTE=VaeVictis;2074088]I simply consider Artemis uninteresting FKK at this moment.[/QUOTE]You take the word right out my mouth. And the place won't change, unfortunately. They've engaged painters and the f**king painters block some rooms in the village outside, why? They have re-newed the saunas downstairs, they've ordered new furnishing, but: The place won't change, I fear, and that's a consequence of the raid last year and the new law in conjunction. Just my two cents. Nope: I've got other places to go. I'll miss some four oder six bunnies, maybe, but that's all. My heart doesn't cling to Artemis, you know.

[QUOTE=VaeVictis;2074088]Even if you count cleaning stuff and ladies working the bar there was not 40 women working the floor at that time. That would imply that 27 women were either in Kino or being in rooms and there simply was not that much traffic to and from rooms.[/QUOTE]I left the place before 6 pm and remember exactly 15 girls by name. I'm not a regular, and I do know only a few of them by name. Believe me or not, there were 30 or 40 girls on the floor at 7 pm, maybe more.

I visited Artemis on the 15th August. Started about 12.30 and left about 19.00. It was a nice day for enjoying the outdoor facilities. There appeared to be a sufficient number of girls for the guys present. After relaxing for a couple of hours I was looking for a girl but I had to be patient as not all of the girls were to my liking. Eventually I came across Gabriela from Poland. I have had good sessions with her on previous visits. I told her I would be looking for a girl in 30 minutes. She found me again in the Kina at the lower level. This Kino was busy from time to time with guys having their girls there in the Kino. I was no different and Gabriela gave me a good session. She is not a stunning beauty but I always find here attractive for some reason. I saw her later doing the same with another guy. The next session was with a girl and I can not remember the name. I could not come with her in the room. I think she used to much lube which may have reduced sensitivity. Is this not taking the law to seriously? It was a good session anyway. The third session I should perhaps not have done I was running out of energy or enthusiasm or both. I did not blame the girl. All in all a good visit to Artemis, and I will be back in September. The new art work in the restaurant looked promising to me and there may be a new flock of girls.

[QUOTE=VaeVictis;2074088]... Even girls were complaining of the place ...[/QUOTE]Girls are usually complaining (like mostly the guys too). It is to cold, it is to hot, there is not enough money to make, all guys are crazy and so on.

I would be worried if they stop complaining, then there would be a serious issue.

Artemis is open the whole year, when should they do some work? During quiet times, of course.

Renovating the restaurant, new saunas, new furniture, it is a good sign for the future.

Especially if you think about the approval.

Thanks for sharing some information gentlemen.

Personally, I would love to be there.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;2074184]I visited Artemis on the 15th August. Started about 12.30 and left about 19.00. It was a nice day for enjoying the outdoor facilities. There appeared to be a sufficient number of girls for the guys present. After relaxing for a couple of hours I was looking for a girl but I had to be patient as not all of the girls were to my liking. Eventually I came across Gabriela from Poland. I have had good sessions with her on previous visits. I told her I would be looking for a girl in 30 minutes. She found me again in the Kina at the lower level. This Kino was busy from time to time with guys having their girls there in the Kino. I was no different and Gabriela gave me a good session. She is not a stunning beauty but I always find here attractive for some reason. I saw her later doing the same with another guy. The next session was with a girl and I can not remember the name. I could not come with her in the room. I think she used to much lube which may have reduced sensitivity. Is this not taking the law to seriously? It was a good session anyway. The third session I should perhaps not have done I was running out of energy or enthusiasm or both. I did not blame the girl. All in all a good visit to Artemis, and I will be back in September. The new art work in the restaurant looked promising to me and there may be a new flock of girls.[/QUOTE]Hopefully you are not demanding too much, you are fucking a not beautiful girl, another you were not able to come, and the last one you can t remember her name a sign that it was a great session (sorry but for this kind of experiences I prefer go to the Starbucks at least the espresso is tasty.

Hi PumDipum,

When are you planning to visit? I will be there in 10 days time and so looking forward although by reading the reviews I was planning Oase but since I have limited time near Berlin, it will be difficult to go to Oase. I just want to remain positive about Artemis.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2074208]Girls are usually complaining (like mostly the guys too). It is to cold, it is to hot, there is not enough money to make, all guys are crazy and so on.

I would be worried if they stop complaining, then there would be a serious issue.

Artemis is open the whole year, when should they do some work? During quiet times, of course.

Renovating the restaurant, new saunas, new furniture, it is a good sign for the future.

Especially if you think about the approval.

Thanks for sharing some information gentlemen.

Personally, I would love to be there.[/QUOTE]

Many of the girls at Artemis have only themselves to thank for the downfall of this once so great club. If I return it will only be for one girl there who I still think is around. A few other girls are nices.

[QUOTE=PKMongerer123;2074591]Hi PumDipum,

When are you planning to visit? I will be there in 10 days time and so looking forward although by reading the reviews I was planning Oase but since I have limited time near Berlin, it will be difficult to go to Oase. I just want to remain positive about Artemis.[/QUOTE]Hello PKMongerer123,

I feel like I am definitely not in a position to give you a sound advice. Based on a very few visits and what I read on ISG I would say:

If you are used to traveling and have some favorite girls who you know well, go to Oase. But if your time is limited like you mentioned and you don't want to sit a few hours in a plane or train to get to a place and don't know what to expect, stay in Berlin. Like some forum veterans wrote, "Internationale Funkausstellung (IFA)" is starting at the first of September. One of the biggest fairs in Germany. Artemis will getting really busy.

I could imagine that many many girls will return to Artemis the week before to make sure they get a spot in the lineup. Just right in the week you want to visit. All very relaxed after they holidays, try to get into the "groove". Also some new ones will be around. Young ones, MILF type ones, natural looking, tattooed, tall, small, slim, curvy, chubby, GFE, PSE, nice or naughty, you will get it all.

FKK Artemis Berlin.

But don't blame me, if it is not like that. A visit to a FKK Club is what you make of it. Challenge is still to find the right one. Sure it could further be slow or even a massive sausage fest. You could face some scamming and rip off. But if you read between the lines, something like that happens in every Club, even to the experienced mongers.

I think visiting in 10 days isn't such a bad idea, also Berlin has many other options. Capital City.

And for me, I am planning a visit every day, to make it happen is another story.

But believe me, I would love to be there.

Out of an accident, the double entry emerged and forgive me this, is it English?

What I wanted to say, go to Artemis. I think it's definitely worth it.

Thanks man for great response. Of course I wouldn't blame anyone for the experience. I think it will. Promising to visit since the exhibition is coming up and my date is around 2-3rd Sept. Just perfect will surely share experience. Hope you can plan a trip soon.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2074987]Hello PKMongerer123,

I feel like I am definitely not in a position to give you a sound advice. Based on a very few visits and what I read on ISG I would say:

If you are used to traveling and have some favorite girls who you know well, go to Oase. But if your time is limited like you mentioned and you don't want to sit a few hours in a plane or train to get to a place and don't know what to expect, stay in Berlin. Like some forum veterans wrote, "Internationale Funkausstellung (IFA)" is starting at the first of September. One of the biggest fairs in Germany. Artemis will getting really busy.

I could imagine that many many girls will return to Artemis the week before to make sure they get a spot in the lineup. Just right in the week you want to visit. All very relaxed after they holidays, try to get into the "groove". Also some new ones will be around. Young ones, MILF type ones, natural looking, tattooed, tall, small, slim, curvy, chubby, GFE, PSE, nice or naughty, you will get it all.

FKK Artemis Berlin..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VaeVictis;2073483]Her breath was strange with metallic smell to it. Luckily I am not into kissing wgs so this was just slightly off putting. Then she gave me covered blowjob, richly using her teeth and mentioning every minute whether I was cumming. After perhaps 3 minutes and complaints from me that my private parts are getting scars from the treatment she shifted over to handjob / blowjob mix. Now, let us for moment ignore the dishonesty of using this trick. What happened next is that her perception of giving HJ involves brutal pulls of your private parts trying to separate them from the rest of your body. At this point I said, to hell with this and took the 60 euro loss. "Maybe I see you later honey", she asked after she got paid. "Not as long as I am conscious," was my answer..[/QUOTE]HAHAHAHA man sorry for laughing but the way you described that woman was funny. She seems like a devil indeed. And the way you described her handjob actually hurts just by reading it!

For those who experience pushy ladies, follow my advice: tell them "I just had sex and I'm tired" . They will leave you alone immediately. It is more effective than 'No'. Trust me.

Who is Lilia? Describe her briefly. I need to identify her when I visit in September.

And guys, for those complaining about Artemis being "Dead" or whatever. The place is not dead. It only has seasons. Some seasons are high, others are low. So your experience greatly depends on:

1) When you visit.

2) How much time you spend there.

3) Your level of patience.

If you visit in a low season, spend 2-3 hours and you're not patient, chances are you will not have a pleasant experience. You need to make Artemis work for you (if you know what I mean). Choose the right time (not the mid of the summer), make sure you spend a whole day and night there, and be super patient in waiting for and selecting the girls. And always remember that the experience varies. An August experience would not be the same as an experience in October or April, for a variety of reasons. But if the place appears to be dead then make sure you spend more hours there and lower your expectations and tries to 1-2 decent girls. But if you're expecting the place to be heavenly every time you go there, sorry but this is not realistic. Claiming the place is no longer worth a visit is a very big judgement which is far from being a sound one. So let's just say in the past 2 months, it wasn't the best season for us, but the best is yet to come perhaps!

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2075725]For those who experience pushy ladies, follow my advice: tell them "I just had sex and I'm tired" . They will leave you alone immediately. It is more effective than 'No'. Trust me.

Who is Lilia? Describe her briefly. I need to identify her when I visit in September.

And guys, for those complaining about Artemis being "Dead" or whatever...[/QUOTE]Hello VonderJohn,

I do not think it is believable, to tell the girls that you "just had sex and are tired now". In doubt they will say to you: "Then go home"!

Seriously, I think of the girls know almost everyone at any time, who, when, how often and how long already someone was up in di room, and of course what he did there. And if not, they just ask one of the other girls who will know it! For sure. Sometimes they even know how much you drink and how often you eat. They know almost everything about their customers.

I don't know her personally, but I think Lilia was described here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=2005708&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2005708.

(If the Link isn't working, go back in the Thread to Beginning of March 2 k17).

In case she should not be there, I think at least 3 to 4 girls, which correspond to the type of Lilia, will be in the house and on the floor. Furthermore, I am sure that you will definitely find one, which has no problem with being called Lilia. By the way, some girls also like to use different names depending on which one is currently famous and which customer they meet. Right?

And to the guys who post since a while "Artemis is dead". From what I read, many Clubs are a bit slow right now. Think about it.

FKK Artemis Berlin will continue to have a lot to offer in the future. Enjoy your stay.

I would love to be there.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2076051]Hello VonderJohn,

I do not think it is believable, to tell the girls that you "just had sex and are tired now". In doubt they will say to you: "Then go home"!

Seriously, I think of the girls know almost everyone at any time, who, when, how often and how long already someone was up in di room, and of course what he did there. And if not, they just ask one of the other girls who will know it! For sure. Sometimes they even know how much you drink and how often you eat. They know almost everything about their customers.

I don't know her personally, but I think Lilia was described here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=2005708&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2005708.

(If the Link isn't working, go back in the Thread to Beginning of March 2 k17).

In case she should not be there, I think at least 3 to 4 girls, which correspond to the type of Lilia, will be in the house and on the floor. Furthermore, I am sure that you will definitely find one, which has no problem with being called Lilia. By the way, some girls also like to use different names depending on which one is currently famous and which customer they meet. Right?

And to the guys who post since a while "Artemis is dead". From what I read, many Clubs are a bit slow right now. Think about it.

FKK Artemis Berlin will continue to have a lot to offer in the future. Enjoy your stay.

I would love to be there.[/QUOTE]If I don't want to go to a room I always say that I am tired and need to rest as I was just in a room. Girls will always walk away without being pissed.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2076051]Hello VonderJohn,

I do not think it is believable, to tell the girls that you "just had sex and are tired now". In doubt they will say to you: "Then go home"!

Seriously, I think of the girls know almost everyone at any time, who, when, how often and how long already someone was up in di room, and of course what he did there. And if not, they just ask one of the other girls who will know it! For sure. Sometimes they even know how much you drink and how often you eat. They know almost everything about their customers.

I don't know her personally, but I think Lilia was described here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=2005708&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2005708..[/QUOTE]Of course it is one of the best way to decline the proposal, they have no right to tell you to go home, many German mongers are spending days and weeks without any room.

[QUOTE=Hermann666;2076337]If I don't want to go to a room I always say that I am tired and need to rest as I was just in a room. Girls will always walk away without being pissed.[/QUOTE]Just remember that the tutes watch the mongers very carefully, and they know when you went to the room, and who you went with. So just watch out because you just might get caught in your lie LOL. If I don't want to go to the room, I just straight up say I don't want to go to the room. It's my life and my money, and I don't feel the need to make up a bunch of excuses. No means no, and that's it! I always try to be nice about it though, unless the girl starts acting pissy. And then, no more Mr. Nice Guy!

[QUOTE=Hermann666;2076337]..Girls will always walk away without being pissed.[/QUOTE]For real? Never ever? Then you will probably have an extraordinary charm, which I have to envy you. But when I think about it again, yes you are right.

I once used a similar phrase: "I am tired and have a headache." Then the dove replied: "Then go home"! And all this without a smile and grabbed my seat. Then I thought to myself, damn, why I wasn't a little more creative. Because then I stood around stupidly. But I am glad for you that these conventional forms of contact are located to you.

Really, no offense. Regards.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2076367]Just remember that the tutes watch the mongers very carefully, and they know when you went to the room, and who you went with. So just watch out because you just might get caught in your lie LOL. If I don't want to go to the room, I just straight up say I don't want to go to the room. It's my life and my money, and I don't feel the need to make up a bunch of excuses. No means no, and that's it! I always try to be nice about it though, unless the girl starts acting pissy. And then, no more Mr. Nice Guy![/QUOTE]We have nothing to justify to the girls, it is fully our choice to go to the room or not there is no obligations at all, sometimes I have no rooms and I just ignóre the stupid comments from the girls.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2076400]For real? Never ever? Then you will probably have an extraordinary charm, which I have to envy you. But when I think about it again, yes you are right.

I once used a similar phrase: "I am tired and have a headache." Then the dove replied: "Then go home"! And all this without a smile and grabbed my seat. Then I thought to myself, damn, why I wasn't a little more creative. Because then I stood around stupidly. But I am glad for you that these conventional forms of contact are located to you.

Really, no offense. Regards.[/QUOTE]Sometimes the sharks that walks around hunting can be a bit offensive but most girls are really nice and can take a no. Just be polite and treat them like a lady.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2076367]Just remember that the tutes watch the mongers very carefully, and they know when you went to the room, and who you went with. So just watch out because you just might get caught in your lie LOL. If I don't want to go to the room, I just straight up say I don't want to go to the room. It's my life and my money, and I don't feel the need to make up a bunch of excuses. No means no, and that's it! I always try to be nice about it though, unless the girl starts acting pissy. And then, no more Mr. Nice Guy![/QUOTE]I don't believe it, just because it is impossible for them to know if you left the club, are in the sauna etc. I am a regular of most of the big clubs so it is very easy for me to decline politely, if a new girl is a little bit aggressive I just remind her that I am free to do what I want, even to stay all day without any room.

I'm with Cane. I politely tell the truth and never make up excuses. I never give a girl any false hope of a yes later, I just say "Sorry but I cannot go to a room with you". Normally the response is "why not?, to which I say "I don't want to, sorry". (sometimes a really clever or nice girl can use her charm and reverse this decision on my part). If a girl then responds by saying something like "that's a shame, do you mind if I sit for a few minutes" I will reassess my decision and maybe say "yes, we can chat for a while".

If a girl is rude I am really thankful that she confirms by her behaviour my decision not to go with her.

Of course I often I say I need a break and then will say so,: if the girl is on my possible list I will try to talk to her to see if she's worth trying later.

[QUOTE=Hermann666;2076585].. most girls are really nice ..[/QUOTE]Hello Hermann666,

I totally agree with you and I also think that most guests have a respectful deal with each other. But I also wanted to mention that sometimes there can be unfavorable moments, on both sides.

Allow me a brief story.

When I first visited back in 2015. I hang around downstairs in the wellness area and watched with an Englishman and a guy from Norway Football Champions League. The Romanian MILF Ioanna (that was the name she gave us, maybe she also had several) joined us and was analyzing our "psychological problems". It was quite interesting. Then came super sexy (at least for me) Alisha around the corner and before I could even say "no thanks, I'm just chilling", it immediately broke out of her and she roared:

"Wtf are you doing here? If you like guys in tight shorts, go there and suck their cocks". The Englishman laughed out loud, the Norwegian showed absolutely zero interest and I was quite shocked, because I didn't do anything.

And you know what, on my next visit me and Alisha had a nice time together up in di room. This is how it can be.

And there is no problem that visitors know that something like that can happen. It's part of the fun, if your mood is right.

By the way, mostly I like dem "Sharks"!

To make it clear again, FKK Artemis Berlin.

I would love to be there.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2076627]Hello Hermann666,

I totally agree with you and I also think that most guests have a respectful deal with each other. But I also wanted to mention that sometimes there can be unfavorable moments, on both sides.

Allow me a brief story.

When I first visited back in 2015. I hang around downstairs in the wellness area and watched with an Englishman and a guy from Norway Football Champions League. The Romanian MILF Ioanna (that was the name she gave us, maybe she also had several) joined us and was analyzing our "psychological problems". It was quite interesting. Then came super sexy (at least for me) Alisha around the corner and before I could even say "no thanks, I'm just chilling", it immediately broke out of her and she roared:

"Wtf are you doing here? If you like guys in tight shorts, go there and suck their cocks". The Englishman laughed out loud, the Norwegian showed absolutely zero interest and I was quite shocked, because I didn't do anything.

And you know what, on my next visit me and Alisha had a nice time together up in di room. This is how it can be..[/QUOTE]Thanks but let us be objective most of the girls are older than in the other big clubs, also they are not allowing a lot of new girls to work there in order to protect the old one, as long the business is good everything is fine, personally I will not visit again. Too expensive.

Hello!

I plan to visit Artemis in early September. This will be my first visit to this club. This forum often refers to the new law. What does this law mean to visitors and what are your tips for me as a new member of the club?

Hello!

I plan to visit Artemis in early September. Members of this forum often talk about the new law. What is the meaning of this law for visitors and what is your advice for my first visit to this club?

[QUOTE=Eric1980;2077040]Hello!

I plan to visit Artemis in early September. This will be my first visit to this club. This forum often refers to the new law. What does this law mean to visitors and what are your tips for me as a new member of the club?[/QUOTE]Everything you ask has been recently discussed in this forum so just take some time to read the forum like everyone else.

[QUOTE=Eric1980;2077040]Hello!

I plan to visit Artemis in early September. This will be my first visit to this club. This forum often refers to the new law. What does this law mean to visitors and what are your tips for me as a new member of the club?[/QUOTE]Recommend you to forget this club, the management is just cheating by asking too high entry fees, most of the girls are related to hell angels and restrict the access to new and sexy girls.

[QUOTE=Eric1980;2077040]Hello!

I plan to visit Artemis in early September. This will be my first visit to this club. This forum often refers to the new law. What does this law mean to visitors and what are your tips for me as a new member of the club?[/QUOTE]Hello Eric1980,

Ask about the Law at the Front Desk. They speak a lot of Languages and will certainly help you.

Basically it just means to take care about practising Safe Sex. Oral, Vaginal and Anal. You have to use a Condom. But this should be self-evident. The girls will taking care of it as well. No big Deal.

In Case you are a Prostitute and want to work there, then search for detailed Informations about the Law elsewhere, please! Because then you must pay Attention to a lot of Things. But also with this Theme the Front Desk could gladly help you. At least I suspect that.

Since I assume that you carry a third Leg and you are at least 18 years of age, watch out for:

A lot of fun!

Emotions.

Choosing the slippers in your right size, otherwise you could stumble pretty quick. It could happen, believe me.

Unless you like to give some joy, don't go completely nuts about the place, they watch you on TV.

Try to be friendly and do not push anyone accidentally. People have feelings.

If the DJ turns up di Manele, watch these girls!

Of course, same old advice, bring enough cash to make it really rain on them. Some deserve it.

Be humble.

And after you've gone and think, "Crap, I'm not quite satisfied", just come back another day. Maybe it will be your day.

I hope you can still get some useful advice from people who really know modest. Until then, here some classic stuff to read:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1763808&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1763808.

It may help. You can take also a look at FKK Artemis Webside / FAQ (sorry I'm to lazy to copy the Link). But all of this will not help much as soon as you set a foot in the door. Unforgettable.

Enjoy!

Went to Artemis on 27 August 2017.

Had severe diarrhea after eating dinner there. The paprika and pork cutlets.

Anybody else had similar issues?

I was planning to return on 28 but was stuck on the toilet bowl!

[QUOTE=ILoveBoobs;2077968]Went to Artemis on 27 August 2017.

Had severe diarrhea after eating dinner there. The paprika and pork cutlets.

Anybody else had similar issues?

I was planning to return on 28 but was stuck on the toilet bowl![/QUOTE]No chance. You must have eaten some spoiled pussy.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2076627]Then came super sexy (at least for me) Alisha around the corner and before I could even say "no thanks, I'm just chilling", it immediately broke out of her and she roared:

"Wtf are you doing here? If you like guys in tight shorts, go there and suck their cocks". The Englishman laughed out loud, the Norwegian showed absolutely zero interest and I was quite shocked, because I didn't do anything.

And you know what, on my next visit me and Alisha had a nice time together up in di room. This is how it can be.[/QUOTE]I had the same incident with Alisha, but the next day she gave me the best CIM ever.

Where is she now? I didn't see her for a year, she is one of the best CIM provider.

[QUOTE=ILoveBoobs;2077968]Went to Artemis on 27 August 2017.

Had severe diarrhea after eating dinner there. The paprika and pork cutlets.

Anybody else had similar issues?

I was planning to return on 28 but was stuck on the toilet bowl![/QUOTE]Even I don't like what the direction in which this club is moving I don't believe it is their responsibility, the rules is Germany are quite strict concerning the food industry and Artemis will not take any risk on that front. May be you linked or kissed some sick girl.

[QUOTE=Eric1980;2077057]Hello!

I plan to visit Artemis in early September. Members of this forum often talk about the new law. What is the meaning of this law for visitors and what is your advice for my first visit to this club?[/QUOTE]As you have no reports I shall assume you are new to FKKs.

1. Take your time in choosing a girl, get to know the club layout.

2. Don't let anyone hassle you into going to a room.

3. Be friendly with all girls who approach you.

4. Do not let on that you are not a frequent visitor to FKK.

5. Know the pricing structure, and what is extra. If you want DFK and DATY then know that, historically these were included in the basic price, but that now some girls want to charge them as extras. Know in advance what your reaction will be.

6. The girls need your money more than you need them. Have a back up plan and case you don't like the club / girls.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=ILoveBoobs;2077968]Went to Artemis on 27 August 2017.

Had severe diarrhea after eating dinner there. The paprika and pork cutlets.

Anybody else had similar issues?

I was planning to return on 28 but was stuck on the toilet bowl![/QUOTE]Happens very very occasionally and any club or mass catering venue. Could even be a big off a door handle and the club or S Bahn.

An anti diahorrea medicament always accompanies my visits

Sorry for the automatic spell corrections on my previous post e.g. "big" should have been " bug".

[QUOTE=Optimist;2078208]Sorry for the automatic spell corrections on my previous post e.g. "big" should have been " bug".[/QUOTE]'Bigger off' didn't make any sense...

[QUOTE=ILoveBoobs;2077968]Went to Artemis on 27 August 2017.

Had severe diarrhea after eating dinner there. The paprika and pork cutlets.

Anybody else had similar issues?

I was planning to return on 28 but was stuck on the toilet bowl![/QUOTE]Hello I love Boobs,

I love boobs too. You love boobs, I love boobs, everybody up in here is loving the boobs. So we have something in common. Isn't it a great forum. I love boobs, such a great name. Thank you for your report about your stay at FKK Artemis Berlin. Unfortunately not so appetizing. But I think it need balls to mention a less beautiful subject. Respect.

The son of a colleague of mine speaks excellent German. Once he taught me about the German word "Pups", it is like a Fart, pronounced like loops, just with a P. So a simple rhyme comes to my mind:

I Love Boobs got the "Pups". Isn't it funny?

Seriously, I hope you're doing well. Maybe you take a look on the bright side, you saved some money for your next visit.

So Sunday the 27th of August was a nice and sunny day in Berlin, that's what google said, I guess they offered BBQ. Not the baddest food there. Maybe try next time the "Bratwurst", quite well.

Did you notice anything with other guests who ate the same there?

What else was going on? Did they finished renovating the restaurant? How it looks like? Were you up in di room before dinner? Yeah excuse me, I am so curious.

And to answer your question and because I don't want to leave you alone. On my third visit I experienced something similar. But it was fixed quite well with a little nap and a cup of peppermint tea. After this I felt even stronger than before, just like a young man.

Also taking Viagra could cause the "Pups", or even being extremely excited or very very nervous. Shit happens.

The lesson from this can only be to eat not so fast and not so much at once and not to drink so much ice-cold drinks anyway.

Finally, never forget the DIA-pers.

I like to repeat it again, I hope you are doing well and you could enjoy your next visit.

[QUOTE=AgentNash;2078084]I had the same incident with Alisha, but the next day she gave me the best CIM ever.

Where is she now? I didn't see her for a year, she is one of the best CIM provider.[/QUOTE]Hello AgentNash,

The same incident? Looks like a well working tactic of hers. I only met her twice. Excuse me, but I can't help you, I don't know where she is.

But yes you're right. It's a bit more than a year since I've last seen her. And yeah of course, I liked it the most when she played with my penis like a little dog with a bone. You got me?

By the way, she owes me 10 euro.

Because of that I think she is living the good life with her lovely darling back in Hungary.

Greetings Alisha, don't miss me so much.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2076051]Hello VonderJohn,

I do not think it is believable, to tell the girls that you "just had sex and are tired now". In doubt they will say to you: "Then go home"!

Seriously, I think of the girls know almost everyone at any time, who, when, how often and how long already someone was up in di room, and of course what he did there. And if not, they just ask one of the other girls who will know it! For sure. Sometimes they even know how much you drink and how often you eat. They know almost everything about their customers.

I don't know her personally, but I think Lilia was described here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=2005708&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2005708.

(If the Link isn't working, go back in the Thread to Beginning of March 2 k17)..[/QUOTE]I will say it again, so you hear me better: Artemis is dead!

Artemis is a tourist club, so tourists visiting here have no alternative. However, tourists don't have this back home, which means give them water or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] they cannot tell the difference. They are just happy it is wet.

Have a good time.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2081755]I will say it again, so you hear me better: Artemis is dead!

Artemis is a tourist club, so tourists visiting here have no alternative. However, tourists don't have this back home, which means give them water or p they cannot tell the difference. They are just happy it is wet.

Have a good time.[/QUOTE]Never been to Artemis because of what I was said about: Not many natural woman looks, even I was told about Hungarian Geraldine? And far to drive to, but what you write is sad and reminds me about what become World. What do you mean? Poor casting now like at World? Upselling to fuck tourists like at Oase? Strict about new law? When at Oase, Sharks, Harmony, GT, LR, room go between You and the girl.

Fortunately, still top and honest girls in Germany, willing to please you back, when you treat them well. Still enjoyable games in Germany, and also Austria and Switzerland.

I had a great experience with a girl named Virginia in Feb. And I'll be there this Wednesday I'm hoping to see her again.

Anyone been to Artemis in the last few days? Is the selection of girls improved? Are most of them back from their summer vacation?

[QUOTE=MaxPayload;2082590]Anyone been to Artemis in the last few days? Is the selection of girls improved? Are most of them back from their summer vacation?[/QUOTE]Forget this club, young girls are blocked to enter, in order not to compete with the older one which are more or less girlfriends of some g. , also forget Berlin you can't get something competitive there, or visit KitKat club sometimes you can fuck a very nice girl for free.

Finally I visited Artemis last Sunday on 3rd Sept. I entered around 5 pm. It was the perfect timings as not much guys were around. I went to the Bar and ordered a drink and watched around to see if any nice girl can be shortlisted. There were few I liked. Anyway I decided to explore the place more as last time I was there for a short time only. So decided to go on the open air pool side. Saw two girls sitting there with one guy swimming in the pool. Returned back to the lounge when suddenly Avea stopped me. She was one of the girls I checked out before leaving out to the pool. We introduced each other and she sounded very confident, perfect sense of humor as she said her name is Avea from Aviation so she can fly me to the moon and back. Loved her perfect friendly attitude and I decided to go for her to start of. We had a smoke together and than walked to the room. She is from Hamburg, normal body with perfect size boobs. The session was awesome. Started off with a nice relaxing massage and BJ. And she sat on me. Was not bulky so it was easy for her to slide in and out unlike with some girls it gets difficult if one has fat thighs. I would rate her 8/10. Later I saw her with some regular who apparently bough 130 euro bottle and was busy with her till I left the club. After my first session I went down to the kino and girls kept coming there to offer company. And by 7 pm I can easily say there were about 80-100 girls however more guys were also coming in. Most of the girls I met asked me if I am there for the exhibition. Actually became friends with some guys there and its true who ever I met was in Berlin for the exhibition and that's the reason more girls were there and some girls told me they are back from vacations so overall ratio was great. Anyway I came back to the lounge around 730 pm I was ready for another session. While sitting with some random guys and choosing the next one, we all thought a girl passing by couple of times was one of the hottest but none of us went to speak to her because she looked full of attitude as she wasn't looking around until I went to grab a drink she luckily stopped me and instantly I agreed to have a session with her. BJ in kino was what I wanted and she was excited. She told me she remembers me from my last trip but probably I feel I resemble someone so I got special treatment. She was exceptional. Perfect body with little over size boobs which made her look even more sexier. She was from Budapest, name Loriene and if any one of you get a chance don't miss her because she give s world best BJ, she has a talent to vibrate her mouth while BJ. A 10/10 perfect session. Couldn't ask for more. Came back to the lounge and told the random guys I met about the best experience. Decided to have dinner after that so went to the dining here. Somehow when girls are wearing towels and sitting or walking, they look even more sexier with their curves. I had my dinner and came out, had coffee smoked and went and sat in those round sofa which are upstairs in the lounge with curtain. While sitting there Dominica girl came and sat beside. She reminded me that I was checking her out while she was getting screwed in the kino. She was right and the way she pleased me really turned me on very quickly after the last session. She was tan, bit fat but she had beautiful boobs and a nice ass to hold. We started kissing and the curtain closed and the BJ started, I lost my control and we started doggy. Its really fun to do it while you can watch people outside the curtain and they cannot see you clearly. Her name was veronica, again extremely nice attitude. I would give her 8/10. After the session, I wanted to take a break so went to the basement to the pool side and sat in sauna 30 minutes and took some laps in the pool. It was really refreshing. I would highly recommend one to do that. It just recharges you. I came back to the lounge and had a drink. Sat for almost an hour enjoying the music and obviously too many girls. I think that time around 11-12 midnight there were about over 100 girls and too many guys too but still you could find your choice. Many girls kept approaching but weren't pushy. It was close to 1 am and I decided to have last session before leaving so one of the girls who approached me, I had eye contact with her and gave her a smile she came with her friend and wanted me to take both of them, I chose one of them. Turkish girl name SIa. It was a bad decision. Till we reached the room it was OK but when she started the BJ it was obvious that she was too mechanic just eager to finish the job so we didn't even talk much and the session ended longer as I had 3 sessions before and her attitude wasn't so good. The reason I selected her was she was quite tall with good size natural boobs and big attractive eyes which were deceiving. So summarizing to the readers here. Artemis is still a good FKK place to visit, try to go as early as possible in the afternoon as you have more options but these days because of the exhibition probably that is over but as vacation of girls are over, they are back to work so you will not regret. The new law is very much effective no BJ w / o condom and all girls made it very clear before finalizing.

I am a Artemis old timer, mine is actually the first report in the first page of this thread.

For me the situation is arrived at a point that I don't know if I will be back, unless I am in Berlin for other affairs or pushed by friends.

Apart from the usual less percentage of natural girls and less young girls than other clubs (but you could find always more than enough):

- no change of girls, always the same for a very long time, getting older of course.

- this is personal (but shared with some friends with same experience), several favorites left, not replaced by new ones as high level providers.

- condom policy applied strictly.

- food, beverage / bar service and other aspect of facilities are embarassing, considering an entry fee of 80 eur. They just changed the furniture for the breakfast / dinner. And the food?? More available drinks??

The only thing is that I experience less upselling than for example Frankfurt clubs but there I am more occasional.

Buck.

Flight 123.

Yes Virginia is still in the club. I saw her on Saturday.

[QUOTE=BuckRogers;2083254]I am a Artemis old timer, mine is actually the first report in the first page of this thread. For me the situation is arrived at a point that I don't know if I will be back, unless I am in Berlin for other affairs or pushed by friends.[/QUOTE]Wow Buck thanks for your contributions over the years! If the condom law is being applied strictly, then I too won't be going back. Let's see how this thing plays out over a year or so, including when the girls have to register by the start of 2018. Well, at least we can say we enjoyed a golden age of mongering in Germany right? Sadly, could be time to move on.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2083358]Wow Buck thanks for your contributions over the years! If the condom law is being applied strictly, then I too won't be going back. Let's see how this thing plays out over a year or so, including when the girls have to register by the start of 2018. Well, at least we can say we enjoyed a golden age of mongering in Germany right? Sadly, could be time to move on.[/QUOTE]I don't see why everyone seems to be "morning" the mongering scene in Berlin, and Artemis specifically. With a bit of patience and modest expectations, anyone can have 3 decent sessions with 3 decent ladies in Artemis in one visit. And this should be enough to make you feel happy. (at least for me).

Yes, you need more time to find a right, good looking lady. It will probably take you 3 hours to find one. You'll end up staying 9 hours in Artemis to have 3 decent sessions.

Yes, it will need that you pay a bit more for a decent session. I think this is fine when your sessions are only 3. After all, this is how much stamina your body can give you in one day. Sex is like food, but your flamingo is not as controllable as your mouth is.

Yes, the condom rule is being strictly applied, but you can still get a hard on, and you can still cum. A bit of less pleasure, sure, but I don't think its too bad to the extent of driving so many of you into depression.

Relax and fuck while you still can.

Hey,

I plan on going to FKK Artemis tomorrow, and among other things I want to have my way there with a Jewish girl.

Do you know if there are? Someone been with maybe?

Its my first time there and in a brothel in general. Any recommendations?

Ty all, amazing forum.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2083606]Yes, the condom rule is being strictly applied, but you can still get a hard on, and you can still cum. A bit of less pleasure, sure, but I don't think its too bad to the extent of driving so many of you into depression. Relax and fuck while you still can.[/QUOTE]Who said anything about "depression"? Far from it! There are too many other places in the world to get depressed. Like my favored Brazil! To hell with being "depressed". If it doesn't work for you, then just move on to the next place!

Tell them you want them to be Jewish. Show them a 200€ bill and they will help you to a room. Mazel Tov!

VonderJohn.

Nobody is going into depression. If they took away my dick, yes I would be depressed then I think. If the condoms for all, and all other stuff suit you that's fine for you, but everyone is different. Also if I lived in Berlin I would go sometimes anyway. But since travel time (flight) is involved, there are alternatives in other Countries and probably also in other German venues.

Artemis is also decreased in several aspects over the years (for me) and they haven't improved simple things.

Life and mongering goes on.

Also, what are the chances they have sex toys there?

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2083773]Tell them you want them to be Jewish. Show them a 200 bill and they will help you to a room. Mazel Tov![/QUOTE]Last time I was at Artemis, I talked to a girl who claimed to be Palestinian. She said, "We go to the room and I make for you the hummus"! LOLOLOL no lie!

I did two one hour sessions. The girls charge 60 euros per 30 minutes. No more acceptance of tips for CIM like last time I was there. Girls are following the new law to the letter at least for us tourists. Unfortunately I don't remember the two girls names but neither one had tattoos which makes them the exception at Artemis. One girl was a strawberry blonde from Riga. The other was a blonde from Romania who looks something like Judy Greer. Both girls were very relaxed and pleasant in the rooms. Good vibes all around.

[QUOTE=DovduboN;2083651]Hey,

Ty all, amazing forum.[/QUOTE]Hello DovduboN,

Unfortunately it sometimes takes 4 to 6 hours or even longer until a comment is published. You're probably going to be in the middle of the fun right now, so keep going! Generally, sextoys, dildos, strapons etc. Should not pose a problem.

By the way, are you from Slovenia?

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2083773]Tell them you want them to be Jewish. Show them a 200 bill and they will help you to a room. Mazel Tov![/QUOTE]Your writing style reminds me a bit of the one bub from Hessen, how you make it?

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2084051]No more acceptance of tips for CIM like last time I was there. [/QUOTE]Hello,

May I ask when you were the last time in Artemis Mr. Big Boss Man?

No more CIM? You know something about Come on Tits? Good vibes all around, sounds good.

Thanks.

Hello fellow mongers!

I've been going to Artemis for the last eight years or so, for 10-15 occasions a year. My own experience is if you don't know the girl from before the girls are going to follow the law! And this will be a problem in the future for all of us for obvious reasons.

I've had a few sessions this Monday and all four sessions was BBBJ and DFK, but all girls told me the same I need to keep this a secret from the other girls, they all apparently not get along so good for various reasons, probably competition and the new law that makes it illegal.

The lineup was acceptable but fewer girls than a normal Monday before the new law.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2084058]Hello DovduboN,


May I ask when you were the last time in Artemis Mr. Big Boss Man?

No more CIM? You know something about Come on Tits? Good vibes all around, sounds good.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I was last there in August 2016. The sum of my total experience includes two visits.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2082132]Never been to Artemis because of what I was said about: Not many natural woman looks, even I was told about Hungarian Geraldine? And far to drive to, but what you write is sad and reminds me about what become World. What do you mean? Poor casting now like at World? Upselling to fuck tourists like at Oase? Strict about new law? When at Oase, Sharks, Harmony, GT, LR, room go between You and the girl.

Fortunately, still top and honest girls in Germany, willing to please you back, when you treat them well. Still enjoyable games in Germany, and also Austria and Switzerland.[/QUOTE]I mean that the club and the girls are strict about the new law. Even girls that I know years and from other clubs that moved to Artemis and regulars of mine. Casting is same type of girls as you mentioned, so no difference in that aspect. Upselling is a way of life at Artemis. Service of the club was never good. Massage is only by men. It is generally a tourist club, so it was never great for locals, and now even worst.

[QUOTE=StrangeKicks;2084138]Hello fellow mongers!

I've been going to Artemis for the last eight years or so, for 10-15 occasions a year. My own experience is if you don't know the girl from before the girls are going to follow the law! And this will be a problem in the future for all of us for obvious reasons.

I've had a few sessions this Monday and all four sessions was BBBJ and DFK, but all girls told me the same I need to keep this a secret from the other girls, they all apparently not get along so good for various reasons, probably competition and the new law that makes it illegal.

The lineup was acceptable but fewer girls than a normal Monday before the new law.[/QUOTE]The new law is not impacting the LU just the management has to do something to attract more new girls and also to propose some discount scheme. Personally I stopped visiting this club. If Artemis will be in Hessen for sure they will have to close the door, in Berlin without any competition they can survive.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2084058]Hello DovduboN,

Unfortunately it sometimes takes 4 to 6 hours or even longer until a comment is published. You're probably going to be in the middle of the fun right now, so keep going! Generally, sextoys, dildos, strapons etc. Should not pose a problem.

By the way, are you from Slovenia?

Your writing style reminds me a bit of the one bub from Hessen, how you make it?

Hello,

May I ask when you were the last time in Artemis Mr. Big Boss Man?

No more CIM? You know something about Come on Tits? Good vibes all around, sounds good.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]When they forbid cum on tits, you'll ask for cum on stomach, LOL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2082132]Never been to Artemis because of what I was said about: Not many natural woman looks, even I was told about Hungarian Geraldine? And far to drive to, but what you write is sad and reminds me about what become World. What do you mean? Poor casting now like at World? Upselling to fuck tourists like at Oase? Strict about new law? When at Oase, Sharks, Harmony, GT, LR, room go between You and the girl.

Fortunately, still top and honest girls in Germany, willing to please you back, when you treat them well. Still enjoyable games in Germany, and also Austria and Switzerland.[/QUOTE]Hungarian Geraldine quite the business as far as I know now though, but she was good.

Anyone seen Thaigirl Akira for the last few months or know where she is now?

Will that week be crowded in Artemis?

[QUOTE=JennyKk;2085899]Will that week be crowded in Artemis?[/QUOTE]Don't think so. Maybe a little bit more business than usual.

So with the new law, do the ladies still offer CIM with condom on? And if yes, will there still be a 50 e extra charge? I would normally get this service when I visit Artemis, but its not worth the 50 e if its with condom on. Just wondering if they charge less or no extra charge since you have to wear a condom. Anybody deal with that?

[QUOTE=ChuckZ;2089494]So with the new law, do the ladies still offer CIM with condom on? And if yes, will there still be a 50 e extra charge? I would normally get this service when I visit Artemis, but its not worth the 50 e if its with condom on. Just wondering if they charge less or no extra charge since you have to wear a condom. Anybody deal with that?[/QUOTE]You are correct that it would be silly to pay someone 50 Euros for the privilege of finishing in a condom.

It is not possible to CIM if you are wearing a condom. If you cum in a condom, then this is clearly CIC, not CIM. The extra charge for CIC is 0 Euros.

I've been wanting to visit Artemis for some time but I always go to Sharks because I hear it's the best of the big clubs. I like curvy girls as well as slim girls and I've been told Artemis has a nice line up of African women. Are there many black and Latina women at Artemis.

Hi,

I'm a newbie here and in the pay for play market.

Have been thinking a lot about visitig an FKK and finally gotten over the treshold and bought a flight ticket to Berlin to visit Artemis.

Any one who have been there recently and can post a few Words about the situation and number of girls?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2091868]I've been wanting to visit Artemis for some time but I always go to Sharks because I hear it's the best of the big clubs. I like curvy girls as well as slim girls and I've been told Artemis has a nice line up of African women. Are there many black and Latina women at Artemis.[/QUOTE]Hello YourBoyRoc,

From my humble experience I can say, Dominican and black women have always been a constant size in the lineup. I do not know exactly what you mean by "many" black and Latina ladies, but around 5 up to more of this type with the extra portion of fire and temperament you should easily find. Just take a look if you got the opportunity.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2092002]Hi,

I'm a newbie here and in the pay for play market.

Have been thinking a lot about visitig an FKK and finally gotten over the treshold and bought a flight ticket to Berlin to visit Artemis.

Any one who have been there recently and can post a few Words about the situation and number of girls?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hello PinballMachine,

I congratulate you on your decision to visit one of the largest clubs in Germany. I did a day not long ago and can only speak for myself.

As soon as I enter the locker room, put on my robe and stroll with the slippers through the building, I feel nothing but comfortable.

I think the situation for a man in the FKK Artemis Berlin is absolutely satisfactory and could hardly be better at the moment.

I am not one of those guys who are counting the number of ladies or walk to the reception mami to ask "how many girls are here tonight?

I can only tell you one thing. My problem last was, too many girls to choose from, but not enough time!

I hope you have more than one night to explore this small lively island.

I hadn't visited this club for a while but the weather was wet so I thought I'd spend some time here. The breakfast bar has moved position in the dining room, but apart from that the place is much the same as it was previously. The receptionist was notably friendly. Line up was very poor with lots of silicone, tattoos, overweight girls etc. The place was full of girls and there weren't that many men, however the choice was nowhere as good as Sharks and there were only a couple of black girls. Nobody really looked like fun. Eventually I found a nice slim, no tats, no surgery Romanian girl (Roxy) to take to a room.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2092002]Hi,

I'm a newbie here and in the pay for play market.

Have been thinking a lot about visitig an FKK and finally gotten over the treshold and bought a flight ticket to Berlin to visit Artemis.

Any one who have been there recently and can post a few Words about the situation and number of girls?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Poor LU. Expensive club, new girls are blocked to enter by the previous one, if the club was situated in Frankfurt where the competition is hard it will close the doors very soon.

Thanks PumDiPum and London Traveller.

I will give it a try.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2092247]Hello YourBoyRoc,

From my humble experience I can say, Dominican and black women have always been a constant size in the lineup. I do not know exactly what you mean by "many" black and Latina ladies, but around 5 up to more of this type with the extra portion of fire and temperament you should easily find. Just take a look if you got the opportunity.

Hello PinballMachine,

I congratulate you on your decision to visit one of the largest clubs in Germany. I did a day not long ago and can only speak for myself.

As soon as I enter the locker room, put on my robe and stroll with the slippers through the building, I feel nothing but comfortable.

I think the situation for a man in the FKK Artemis Berlin is absolutely satisfactory and could hardly be better at the moment.

I am not one of those guys who are counting the number of ladies or walk to the reception mami to ask "how many girls are here tonight?

I can only tell you one thing. My problem last was, too many girls to choose from, but not enough time!

I hope you have more than one night to explore this small lively island.[/QUOTE]Latina looking girls at Artemis. I know there are a few. Most are OK, but a word of caution to fulfill my responsibility here to preserving the health of our cocks. So, there are two Latina girls that are always situated as you enter the lounge on the left side up the 3-4 stairs and on the round bed that is closer to the bar. Two guys that went with one of them one in turns a few weeks ago were visiting here last week and were only with their fetish Latina and now when they returned they complained about some white stuff dripping from their dicks and given that that's the only girl they shared, they were nice enough to caution me against going with one of them, which I was about to take. Thanks guys. Message forwarded.

[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;2092248]I hadn't visited this club for a while but the weather was wet so I thought I'd spend some time here. The breakfast bar has moved position in the dining room, but apart from that the place is much the same as it was previously. The receptionist was notably friendly. Line up was very poor with lots of silicone, tattoos, overweight girls etc. The place was full of girls and there weren't that many men, however the choice was nowhere as good as Sharks and there were only a couple of black girls. Nobody really looked like fun. Eventually I found a nice slim, no tats, no surgery Romanian girl (Roxy) to take to a room.[/QUOTE]So the line up has not changed at Artemis still?

It used to be good diverse mixed line up with few stunners. , but then it became as you described it.

I had to stop going in 2015 and since then I stayed away.

So plastic older girls line up at Artemis is still as it is and I also heard it became a CBJ club. Sad. It used to be my favorite club for 6 years.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2093111]So the line up has not changed at Artemis still?

It used to be good diverse mixed line up with few stunners. , but then it became as you described it.

I had to stop going in 2015 and since then I stayed away.

So plastic older girls line up at Artemis is still as it is and I also heard it became a CBJ club. Sad. It used to be my favorite club for 6 years.[/QUOTE]All senior members perfectly know why the LU can't improve, it is just because the girls are blocking the arrival of new fresh one to protect their business, also they are linked to some motorcycle clubs.

Sorry, guys, for these generic questions, but I have not been here for a while.

How much is 30 min. With a girl these days?

Since the raid a few years ago, no more such scuffle with the police here?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2093111]So the line up has not changed at Artemis still? It used to be good diverse mixed line up with few stunners, but then it became as you described it. I had to stop going in 2015 and since then I stayed away.[/QUOTE]And that was a huge mistake because you missed a new, stunning jewel in the crown. And just your type too. Blue-eyed, blonde German Lilia from around Kiel I believe it was. An FKK is like a box of chocolates my friend. You never know what you're going to get!

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;2094642]How much is 30 min. With a girl these days?[/QUOTE]60 Euro.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;2094642]Since the raid a few years ago, no more such scuffle with the police here?[/QUOTE]No scuffle, no trouble.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2094674]And that was a huge mistake because you missed a new, stunning jewel in the crown. And just your type too. Blue-eyed, blonde German Lilia from around Kiel I believe it was. An FKK is like a box of chocolates my friend. You never know what you're going to get![/QUOTE]New stunning Jewel? Not sure about that. Lilia, worked previously at GT Bruggen, so she is well known. She has been at Artemis about a year or more. Her body has proportions tangent to a Hipo. That said, she may not have a perfect body, a bit on the full side and not the best ass, yet, her service and personality are a rare Jewel and especially at Artemis, agreed. One of the most recommended girls in Artemis, but she also started becoming an Artemis girl (asking for more money while working less), so get it while you can.

Just back from a four day Artemisathon.

Good fun. The Venus expo as on at the Messe, which added to the spice, although I wa blissfully unaware of this until I got off the plane and saw the posters. That did explain why I couldn't get into my usual hotels.

Artemis continues to delight. It is essentially a tourist destination, especially on a Saturday. However, there are enough of us tourists who have been many times and are concidered regulars by the ladies.

The idea that Artemis is dying was somewhat undermined by the large number of men and ladies present on Saturday with long queues for the rooms.

My room activity was limited to a few girls that I see regularly. Generally there are many ladies who have been there for along time but also many new ones too. I got chatting to Sharon (blonde, Hungarian, quite short and cute), she has been working there for seven years. We had never spoken before but we did recognise each other as I started going to Artemis at about the same time that Sharon started working there.

I think the great thing about Artemis is that there is a girl for everyone, all body shapes, sizes, ages, all creeds and colors.

Talking to one of my regular ladies about the CBJ rule, she felt it had reduced business at first, but that was building back up. Her view was that, the Police are looking to try and shut Artemis, so the CBJ rule has to be rigorously applied. So, if she doesn't know you well, you might be Police, so you will be rubbered up.

One newish girl I spotted, beautiful brunette called Angel. She claimed to be half Spanish and half Turkish but seemed to speak remarkably fluent Romanian. I didn't party with her, has anybody had the pleasure?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2094674]And that was a huge mistake because you missed a new, stunning jewel in the crown. And just your type too. Blue-eyed, blonde German Lilia from around Kiel I believe it was. An FKK is like a box of chocolates my friend. You never know what you're going to get![/QUOTE]Maybe buddy, but. Well this Artemis CBJ rule make me not want to go back there.

[QUOTE=Traveller63;2095326]Talking to one of my regular ladies about the CBJ rule, she felt it had reduced business at first, but that was building back up. Her view was that, the Police are looking to try and shut Artemis, so the CBJ rule has to be rigorously applied.[/QUOTE]I was there last month and had no problem getting BBBJ at no extra charge as long as I made it clear in advance that's what I wanted. I fucked up once and went to a room with a girl without clarifying and she wanted 50€ extra for CIM. I said I don't want CIM, just BBBJ, but she stuck to her guns. Every other girl I went with had no problem agreeing to BBBJ at no extra charge when I specified it before committing to the room.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2095072]New stunning Jewel? Not sure about that. Lilia, worked previously at GT Bruggen, so she is well known.[/QUOTE]Relatively new to Artemis (only a few months when I sessioned with her) versus her length of time at GT, and would have been brand new to Mr. Ho was my point. She is not well-known to him, and he missed her fantastic service by stopping his visits to Artemis. I like her body, and except for her ass which could be a little bit more plump for my tastes, I disagree with your characterizations of her body. I don't like women who look like stick figures. I like women with some curves!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2095343]Maybe buddy, but. Well this Artemis CBJ rule make me not want to go back there.[/QUOTE]But, Mr Ho. Given your unstinting negativity about the place, why would you go back at all?

[QUOTE=Traveller63;2095326]Just back from a four day Artemisathon.

Good fun. The Venus expo as on at the Messe, which added to the spice, although I wa blissfully unaware of this until I got off the plane and saw the posters. That did explain why I couldn't get into my usual hotels.

Artemis continues to delight. It is essentially a tourist destination, especially on a Saturday. However, there are enough of us tourists who have been many times and are concidered regulars by the ladies.

The idea that Artemis is dying was somewhat undermined by the large number of men and ladies present on Saturday with long queues for the rooms.

My room activity was limited to a few girls that I see regularly. Generally there are many ladies who have been there for along time but also many new ones too. I got chatting to Sharon (blonde, Hungarian, quite short and cute), she has been working there for seven years. We had never spoken before but we did recognise each other as I started going to Artemis at about the same time that Sharon started working there.

I think the great thing about Artemis is that there is a girl for everyone, all body shapes, sizes, ages, all creeds and colors.[/QUOTE]She isn't so new at Artemis. The quality of your time with her will be directly proportional to the money you spend.

After reading all the threads, watching Videos / Pictures I've decided to visit my first FKK, Artemis in Berlin.

However there are just a few questions I have been unable to find the answers to.

1: Is it expected to pay extra for GFE services like an oily B2B, kissing, light spanking & maybe reverse oral?

2: Do the ladies use the restaurant and specifically the Gym and if they do is it possible to "pick up" the girls from there or are you restricted to the lounges, bar, cinema etc? Nothing more sexy than watching a fit girl in a Gym!

3: I haven't seen a jacuzzi or whirlpool in the videos, are there any and do the girls venture in too?

4: I noticed in a picture the "Visa" sign. Is this for anyone who wants to pay the entrance fee by card or are then ATM's on site?

My one day visit early next month could last as long as up to 14 hours so I will need plenty of "downtime" as well as deep pockets LOL! LOL!

Many thanks for anyone who can help.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2095420]Relatively new to Artemis (only a few months when I sessioned with her) versus her length of time at GT, and would have been brand new to Mr. Ho was my point. She is not well-known to him, and he missed her fantastic service by stopping his visits to Artemis. I like her body, and except for her ass which could be a little bit more plump for my tastes, I disagree with your characterizations of her body. I don't like women who look like stick figures. I like women with some curves![/QUOTE]In matters of taste.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2095420]Relatively new to Artemis (only a few months when I sessioned with her) versus her length of time at GT, and would have been brand new to Mr. Ho was my point. She is not well-known to him, and he missed her fantastic service by stopping his visits to Artemis. I like her body, and except for her ass which could be a little bit more plump for my tastes, I disagree with your characterizations of her body. I don't like women who look like stick figures. I like women with some curves![/QUOTE]Is she half Russian and half German? Natural normal tits? I think no tattoo?

Because I did session with former gt blonde blue eye girl with great service in winter 2015.

Does this look like a Hippo to anybody?

[QUOTE=Traveller63;2095326]Just back from a four day Artemisathon.

Good fun. The Venus expo as on at the Messe, which added to the spice, although I wa blissfully unaware of this until I got off the plane and saw the posters. That did explain why I couldn't get into my usual hotels.

Artemis continues to delight. It is essentially a tourist destination, especially on a Saturday. However, there are enough of us tourists who have been many times and are concidered regulars by the ladies.

The idea that Artemis is dying was somewhat undermined by the large number of men and ladies present on Saturday with long queues for the rooms..[/QUOTE]After reading all the threads about FKK's & Artemis I have decided to pay my first visit in three weeks time, travel arrangements all sorted and already getting excited!

However I do have a few questions that I cannot find the answers to which Would be nice to get the answers to before I attend.

1: Do girls use the areas of the club like the sauna & Gym, there's nothing sexier watching a girl "work out" ?

2: I'm not interested in the extra services of COM, COB & Anal but I do like GFE, kissing, lots of oily B2B & light spanking. Would it be expected to pay extra for these services and if so how much?

3: Looking at a Artemis video I couldn't see a jacuzzi or whirlpool. Do they have one and do the ladies use them?

4: I also noticed in a Artemis video a "Visa" sign, is there an ATM on site?

Many thanks for your help.

My first visit to Artemis or any FKK early next month could be as long as 12 hours (if my stamina survives) so I will need some downtime LOL!

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;2094642]Sorry, guys, for these generic questions, but I have not been here for a while.

How much is 30 min. With a girl these days?

Since the raid a few years ago, no more such scuffle with the police here?[/QUOTE]I will visit Artemis in 3 weeks, it's also my first time at a FKK venue.

I'm not much interested in the "extras" of CIM, COB, Anal etc but whether GFE, Oily B2B, kissing, reverse oral & light spanking is available and if extra payment is required?

[QUOTE=Canary;2095766]1: Do girls use the areas of the club like the sauna & Gym, there's nothing sexier watching a girl "work out" ?[/QUOTE]I did see one girl working out in the gym, but I have no idea if she was available for a shift. She was on the treadmill and wearing regular gym clothes.

[QUOTE=Canary;2095766]2: I'm not interested in the extra services of COM, COB & Anal but I do like GFE, kissing, lots of oily B2B & light spanking. Would it be expected to pay extra for these services and if so how much?[/QUOTE]Plan to pay extra for everything. Then if you don't have to pay extra it is a nice surprise.

[QUOTE=Canary;2095766]3: Looking at a Artemis video I couldn't see a jacuzzi or whirlpool. Do they have one and do the ladies use them?[/QUOTE]I never saw a lady in the jacuzzi, but I am far from an expert. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

[QUOTE=Canary;2095766]4: I also noticed in a Artemis video a "Visa" sign, is there an ATM on site?[/QUOTE]I believe it is for cash advances from the ATM only.

Girls do quite regularly use the gym, but generally consider this to be off-duty time. There is an obvious place to sit and watch them work out as it is at the far end of the basement floor.

The is a Jacuzzi in the outdoor area, which is shut from 1 November. During high summer, it and the outdoor swimming pool and sunbeds are regularly used by the girls. Again, they are usually off-duty when doing so.

There is an ATM and Reception has again started to accept credit cards to pay the entrance fee.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2095727]Is she half Russian and half German? Natural normal tits? I think no tattoo? Because I did session with former gt blonde blue eye girl with great service in winter 2015.[/QUOTE]You missed her. Lilia wasn't at Artemis the last time you were there. And she's 100% German as far as I know. Based on your rave reviews of the "German table" at Palace, she's just your type too. Maybe next time buddy. Or, try to catch her at GT. Told me she was going to reduce her work in Germany because she doesn't want to register as a tute.

[QUOTE=Traveller63;2095473]But, Mr Ho. Given your unstinting negativity about the place, why would you go back at all?[/QUOTE]I got good memories there for years, so I may give a shot at one point in future, but I wait till line up get better.

[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2095978]I did see one girl working out in the gym, but I have no idea if she was available for a shift. She was on the treadmill and wearing regular gym clothes.

Plan to pay extra for everything. Then if you don't have to pay extra it is a nice surprise.

I never saw a lady in the jacuzzi, but I am far from an expert. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

I believe it is for cash advances from the ATM only.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for your reply.

Unlike the well known "extras" price list for Anal, CIM etc without any guarantee that "my extras list" doesn't come with an additional price list I think you're correct, I will have to take extra cash.

I didn't really want to do this as although it's my first visit to a FKK venue I will be there for around 12 hours (until my plane departs) and have tried to plan out what finances I might need.

I asked the question because I'm aware that this place has a reputation of "up selling" but although a FKK newbie I'm not a punting novice.

If every girl I'm interested in wants additional funds for some or all of my "extras" I will have to unfortunately take more than the €900 I had planned to take, unless I'm strict and stick to the basic services!

Thanks again.

P.S: I hope I'm lucky & find a sexy willing girl in the Gym & jacuzzi, something about those two venues that does it for me!!

[QUOTE=Canary;2095873]I'm not much interested in the "extras" of CIM, COB, Anal etc but whether GFE, Oily B2B, kissing, reverse oral & light spanking is available and if extra payment is required?[/QUOTE]GFE IMO is a girl that provides good relaxing (more of slower paced sensual service than high energy like PSE for example) that provides the illusion of a loving or kind service. Offering extra for GFE, upsells, extras for services that arn't officially considered extras detracts from being a GFE in the first place. It should be a good flow of interaction by a skilled girl that is proficient in taking away the client's thoughts from being a business transaction (although that is not a reality). Some girls are truely exceptional at this, and it's a delight to run into them.

CIM, Anal, are the typical official extras you should keep in mind as a newbie walking in. I would suggest starting off with well reputed, and GFE providers (ask around) or clubs starting out. It's a safer journey for a newbie from the getgo as you gain a better relative idea of service levels possible.

The LU was poor (Lilia wasn't there) and not many mans either.

But I managed to find 2 outlaws that knows me from previous visits for 1 hour + BBBJ + CIM.

Total damage: 80 entry + 40 drinks + 170 + 170 + 20 tip.

Will be there tonight as well.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2095741]Does this look like a Hippo to anybody?[/QUOTE]I have been with Lilia many times. Her body is far far away from that. If this is what you see in the room with her, dude I want the pair or glasses you are using or whatever drugs you are on. Viel Spaß amigo.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2095420]Relatively new to Artemis (only a few months when I sessioned with her) versus her length of time at GT, and would have been brand new to Mr. Ho was my point. She is not well-known to him, and he missed her fantastic service by stopping his visits to Artemis. I like her body, and except for her ass which could be a little bit more plump for my tastes, I disagree with your characterizations of her body. I don't like women who look like stick figures. I like women with some curves![/QUOTE]Dude,

Your writing is subpar when you need to explain the adjectives you throw around; new turns to relatively new and then to new for Mr Ho. I was especially moved by your attempt to quantify Mr. Ho's definition for relatively new and determine it to be relatively new. In FKK life one year take a huge toll on a girl.

And one year is not relatively new mister, one year means that she has been grinding inside out and is no longer fresh. One year in prostitute life is like seven year in normal life (drawing the analogy her but no negative implications, so please don't take this out of cobtext), this job kills you.

More information about Lilia for Mr Ho, this might be more reliable when one's written words cannot properly reflect a simple timeline reference. Mhm.

So, Lilia, she is German, always smiling with her great smile, extremely friendly and welcoming, she has worked at GT Bruggen and is a favorite for many regulars such as myself, beautiful face with blonde hair and blue eyes, Artmis girl since September 2016 or slightly before, body is evolving and she is getting rounder around the edges, not the classic German table girl (E. G. , not well manicured or pedicured, lacking the enhanced female element other the German table girls naturally posses), she is 22-3 and her service is very good, essentially you get from her Hessen service in Artemis.

Highly recommend for service, but looks is subjective. I session with her for service and fun relaxed atmosphere, but I have much better looking classic German girls.

All that said, she is a sweetheart.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2096587]I have been with Lilia many times. Her body is far far away from that. If this is what you see in the room with her, dude I want the pair or glasses you are using or whatever drugs you are on. Viel Spa amigo.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha! The point is to describe her as a "hippo" is rather harsh and unfair in my view. What was that you said? In matters of taste. But be fair and balanced. By the way, I find your taste to be strange in that I would not session even once with a girl who I thought of as being a "hippo". "Bambi" maybe. But never a hippo. Strange indeed my friend!

The LU was much better and the place was packed.

Had a 1 hour long PSE session with Lorena (CO) and Elisabeth (DR), I love those south America kinky girls.

It was like I am directing one of the old buttman movie, will repeat.

Intel needed: German girl with purple hair, great body and 'puta' tattoo on her lower back, any idea?

Will be back in 3 weeks.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2096760]Hahahaha! The point is to describe her as a "hippo" is rather harsh and unfair in my view. What was that you said? In matters of taste. But be fair and balanced. By the way, I find your taste to be strange in that I would not session even once with a girl who I thought of as being a "hippo". "Bambi" maybe. But never a hippo. Strange indeed my friend![/QUOTE]OK, so maybe a hipo is too harsh for a girl I actually like. She has the very emphasized curves. Lilia, IMO, is best known for her blowjob and that she kisses. But her body is really lacking proportions. And she has a charming personality.

What I get from all this back and forth is that Danny loves to make love with a nice girl of hippo stature. LOL.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2096891]What I get from all this back and forth is that Danny loves to make love with a nice girl of hippo stature. LOL.[/QUOTE]Stranger things have happened in FKK. But that picture you sent is not Lilia, it is the girl they bring for event and show in their photo albums.

I attended Teusday last week, arrived about 11.30 hours, early for me, but in time to enjoy the good weather outdoors. Things went wrong, I went to the showers behind the outdoor pool but they were not working. I went for a walk through the club to see who was where. The downstairs bar area was screened off, workmen were doing something at the bar. In the afternoon the screen and barriers were removed but the bar was not working. Enough girls in the morning and more in the afternoon. Plenty girls with good bodys, nice figures but without the face to go with it. I saw this girl who sits at the bar facing the main door in. I had eyed her on previous visits but this time I decided to do something about it. She went for a walk and I caught up with her on the stairs down. We went to the Kino and had a good session there with her. I will look for her on the next visit and next time I will remember the name. My next two sessions I could not come with the girls. The last session was with Gabriela, with whom I have had several good sessions. Another good day in Berlin. Left about 19.00 hours.

Had my first ever experience with an FKK like a week ago.

Thanks to this forum everything from the entrance to the safes, the lockers, the showers and the slippers and the robe went smooth and quickly. Wow! The Place was packed with sexy nude Girls! Of course this is normal but nothing I'm used to. Was approached by many Girls, like I had a sign on my forehead saying "Shark bait" and I probably was. Went with a girl with long Brown hair, nice tanned body, enhanced see- or the-cup the Name something beginning with Ra? A bit mechanical but anyhow nice, finished in the condom. 60 Euros. Next girl was a tall blond from Germany with her hair in a tail. Amazing legs and butt. Natural C-cup Nice but a bit "professional". Name something beginning with L? Condom finish. 60 Euros.

Sorry about the names but I've never been good with names.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;2097870]I attended Teusday last week, arrived about 11.30 hours, early for me, but in time to enjoy the good weather outdoors. Things went wrong, I went to the showers behind the outdoor pool but they were not working. I went for a walk through the club to see who was where. The downstairs bar area was screened off, workmen were doing something at the bar. In the afternoon the screen and barriers were removed but the bar was not working. Enough girls in the morning and more in the afternoon. Plenty girls with good bodys, nice figures but without the face to go with it. I saw this girl who sits at the bar facing the main door in. I had eyed her on previous visits but this time I decided to do something about it. She went for a walk and I caught up with her on the stairs down. We went to the Kino and had a good session there with her. I will look for her on the next visit and next time I will remember the name. My next two sessions I could not come with the girls. The last session was with Gabriela, with whom I have had several good sessions. Another good day in Berlin. Left about 19.00 hours.[/QUOTE]Interesting read as I prepare in anticipation for my first ever FKK visit on Tuesday 7th November to Artemis.

I'm experienced in the game and know all the pitfalls for a newbie in a new environment.

I have a plan of action; taking my time, avoid looking like a boy in a sweetie shop, making it clear what I'm after and being my usual charming, respectful & polite self. Show some kindness & civility usually brings rewards!

However does anyone have any tips regarding current girl recommendations? I know about the famous Jenna!

[QUOTE=Canary;2096065]Unlike the well known "extras" price list for Anal, CIM etc without any guarantee that "my extras list" doesn't come with an additional price list I think you're correct, I will have to take extra cash.[/QUOTE]The first girl I took to the room I interviewed very thoroughly beforehand. I asked her if she enjoyed kissing ("Oh yes, I love to kiss. I'll kiss the whole time") and if she liked DATY ("Mmmm, of course baby, it's my favorite") and if she will lick my balls ("Ohh yes, I lick from the head all the way down the shaft and play with the balls. I love to suck cock") Everything I asked if she liked to do, enjoyed doing, wanted to do, she said yes. I said "Let's go. ".

In the room she told me the rate would be 180 euros. I said "Oh, I just wanted 30 minutes. " She said "That is for 30 minutes. Plus licking me, plus kissing, plus licking your balls, plus BBBJ". I should have left right then. In the end I told her that I just wanted the standard 60 euro session, and it was the most mechanical, boring session of my trip.

[QUOTE=Canary;2096065]I asked the question because I'm aware that this place has a reputation of "up selling" but although a FKK newbie I'm not a punting novice.

If every girl I'm interested in wants additional funds for some or all of my "extras" I will have to unfortunately take more than the 900 I had planned to take, unless I'm strict and stick to the basic services!!![/QUOTE]Look, GFE, Oily B2 B, kissing, reverse oral & light spanking are all pretty basic services and should be included in the basic price. I suggest to avoid upsellers and go for the decent girls. Be prepared to say no to the first girls that appraoch you. If you start acting like a pushover, then suddenly all girls will act as upsellers. It's up to you.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2098096]Look, GFE, Oily B2 B, kissing, reverse oral & light spanking are all pretty basic services and should be included in the basic price. I suggest to avoid upsellers and go for the decent girls. Be prepared to say no to the first girls that appraoch you. If you start acting like a pushover, then suddenly all girls will act as upsellers. It's up to you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, most reassuring!

Having read methodically lots of threads on this website and others I feel totally prepared, I've even looked at a video tour of the premises on Google so I fully know the layout of the club which will prevent me from "standing out" like a newbie.

I'm experienced in the game so the girls that attempt to upsell I will have no problem dealing with.

Roll on 7th November!

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=AgentNash;2096843]

Intel needed: German girl with purple hair, great body and 'puta' tattoo on her lower back, any idea?

Will be back in 3 weeks.[/QUOTE]Hello AgentNash,

About 5"7 or 5"8 tall without shoes? If my memory is not completely failling, her name could be zoey, cloe or something similar. Never been with her in a room, so this is my only idea.

At PinballMachine. No need to excuse. Your first girl could have been Raissa? Pretty petite and such a beautiful face.

Thanks for the reports.

Anyone knows if Aileen (Ger / Tur) from Hamburg is working next week? Would be nice to caress those big beautiful tits again!

[QUOTE=Shark16;2098096]Look, GFE, Oily B2 B, kissing, reverse oral & light spanking are all pretty basic services and should be included in the basic price. [/QUOTE]How are you defining "GFE"? Because every guy seems to have a different definition. For some guys it is a simple "GFE = BBBJ" equation. Other guys use GFE to mean "a general illusion of passion, including DFK and cuddling" but are willing to accept BBBJ. It's not consistently defined, by hobbyists or providers.

But in the end, the best advice is to agree on the activities and the total price before you get to the room.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2098198]At PinballMachine. No need to excuse. Your first girl could have been Raissa? Pretty petite and such a beautiful face.

Thanks for the reports.[/QUOTE]Yes Raissa, that was her name. Interesting, I don't know but you do. Hehe.

Never asked where she came from thou, it was clear she wasn't German?

Nice looks indeed, but quite "sharky", but then again is there Girls that are not to a newbie?

KC,
I am moving this discussion to the FAQ section making this thread more relevant for the Artemis visitors.

[QUOTE=StrangeKicks;2098277]Anyone knows if Aileen (Ger / Tur) from Hamburg is working next week? Would be nice to caress those big beautiful tits again![/QUOTE]Aylin was out 2-3 weeks ago and in the last two weeks she is in bordello.

Big beautiful tits? Her silicone is like the Michelin Man. They stand like rubber perpendicular twin towers. Try Kiara if you like Aylin.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2098669]KC,
I am moving this discussion to the FAQ section making this thread more relevant for the Artemis visitors.[/QUOTE]Well, the discussion was which activities were standard at Artemis, but I'm happy to follow to the FAQ section.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2098560]Yes Raissa, that was her name. Interesting, I don't know but you do. Hehe.

Never asked where she came from thou, it was clear she wasn't German?

Nice looks indeed, but quite "sharky", but then again is there Girls that are not to a newbie?[/QUOTE]Nice girl indeed. I actually don't think she wants to be sharky, but the atmosphere with some other girls there kinda forces her to be a bit. Not that she is sharky with me, but noticed some upsells that wasn't there when she started almost 3 years ago. She does have very nice legs though, and can be a sight with the right lingerie leggings. She definitely knows its a strong selling point for her.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2089502]It is not possible to CIM if you are wearing a condom. If you cum in a condom, then this is clearly CIC, not CIM. The extra charge for CIC is 0 Euros.[/QUOTE]A genius at work. Great job at TRYING to tell someone something that I clearly OBVIOUS! The word idiot comes to mind.

Guys,

Is it still possible to get BBBJ in Artemis?

Visiting in a few days.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Boofer;2099437]Is it still possible to get BBBJ in Artemis?[/QUOTE]Yes, of course. Just don't tell anyone that you did or the WKs on the board will PM you and tell you not to "ruin it for others. ".

If you want BBBJ, make sure that you confirm it with the girl before you go to the room, and that it will not be an extra charge (unless you also want CIM -- that's extra). Some may turn you down, others may request that you book for an hour. But you'll find plenty who will BBBJ for no upcharge in a 30-minute session.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2098560]Yes Raissa, that was her name. Interesting, I don't know but you do. Hehe.

Never asked where she came from thou, it was clear she wasn't German?

Nice looks indeed, but quite "sharky", but then again is there Girls that are not to a newbie?[/QUOTE]Hello PinballMachine,

Since your description was pretty accurate and Raissa is the only one I know her name starts with "Ra", then all I needed was some luck to solve the puzzle. I also did not ask her, but I do not think she's from Germany. I would bet on Spain or Italy, you know? The fact that most working girls are looking forward to new and inexperienced customers should be obvious. I think being "sharky" is a big part of this business and ensures the daily amusement of the girls. They love their customers.

Greetings.

[QUOTE=Boofer;2099437]Guys,

Is it still possible to get BBBJ in Artemis?

Visiting in a few days.

Regards.[/QUOTE]Hello Boofer,

I am not a weekly German regular, professional sex tourer who travels every month for a few days to Berlin and no business man or party tourist who has to worry about money. That is why my experience is a bit different. Every lady with whom I had been together since the 1st of July preferred sucking with a condom. Uncovered Blowjobs in the cinema, disappeared. There was also no attempt to offer this as an extra or one hour as a requirement for BBBJ. But maybe I was the only fool who was following the law.

In addition, I have not asked expressly.

Greetings.

I've selected Artemis as my first FKK venue to visit next Tuesday as getting to Berlin is easier, whether it was the right choice only time will tell!

Does anyone have any info on the current LU regards to recommendations as I gather Artemis has it's fair share of Sharks?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Canary;2099932]I've selected Artemis as my first FKK venue to visit next Tuesday as getting to Berlin is easier, whether it was the right choice only time will tell!

Does anyone have any info on the current LU regards to recommendations as I gather Artemis has it's fair share of Sharks?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]At Artemis, the girls you may think are sharks and hunts guys are normally the best providers too. A rule of thumb at Artemis.

[QUOTE=Canary;2099932]I've selected Artemis as my first FKK venue to visit next Tuesday as getting to Berlin is easier, whether it was the right choice only time will tell!

Does anyone have any info on the current LU regards to recommendations as I gather Artemis has it's fair share of Sharks?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hello Canary,

I am just a nobody on ISG, but.

Don't worry to much about the entire lineup, it is huge enough, even on Tuesdays. I am sure you'll find what you are looking for. Unfortunately I can't give you any recommendations, especially since I don't know what you prefer. Also I would not feel well if I tell you, try to meet Gulia, Melli or Katalina and then your expectations will not be fully fulfilled. Therefore, just go, look, get in touch and enjoy.

Maybe someone's GFE is another one's Shark.

Service? Don't worry too much. Just read this again:

[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2099487]Yes, of course.

If you want BBBJ, make sure that you confirm it with the girl before you go to the room, and that it will not be an extra charge (unless you also want CIM -- that's extra). Some may turn you down, others may request that you book for an hour. But you'll find plenty who will BBBJ for no upcharge in a 30-minute session.[/QUOTE]And you feel better.

Regarding your question from the general info thread. I am not a VIP, but as far as I know there are one or even two VIP rooms (with jacuzzi), which of course cost extra. The price will certainly be able to call you one of the receptionists.

Greetings.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2099299]A genius at work. Great job at TRYING to tell someone something that I clearly OBVIOUS! The word idiot comes to mind.[/QUOTE]What is your vendetta against UH?. In another thread I see you dragged up an old harmless comment by him and insulted him in crude terms..

Why are you making insults in the German threads. You have never contributed anything under these threads apart from these insults.

Maybe focus your penchant for sarcasm on your own behaviour

Been going to Thailand for years but bored of Thai girls. Making my first visit to an FKK soon, Artemis, can't wait.

Thanks for all the advice on here, I'll write a review of here and the other places I visit when I return.

Just have a few questions.

How bad is it to wear underwear under your robe? I take Cialis everyday to help my blood pressure and prostate and might be embarrassing with a full blown tent during my whole stay there.

What questions do you like best to find out who is likely to rip you off?

Thanks everyone for any help.

[QUOTE=HggCraig69;2100659]How bad is it to wear underwear under your robe?[/QUOTE]Not bad at all. Just walking around, no one would really see anyway since you can belt your robe. But even if it is open it's not unusual to see someone with underwear on.

[QUOTE=HggCraig69;2100659]What questions do you like best to find out who is likely to rip you off?[/QUOTE]Just make sure you negotiate specifically which services you want and how much it will cost you. There can be no ripoff if that is clearly stated. Don't do like I did and think "We seem to get along nicely and she says she will do all of these things for me" and then find out in the room that all those things she wanted to do cost extra.

[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2100722]Not bad at all. Just walking around, no one would really see anyway since you can belt your robe. But even if it is open it's not unusual to see someone with underwear on.

Just make sure you negotiate specifically which services you want and how much it will cost you. There can be no ripoff if that is clearly stated. Don't do like I did and think "We seem to get along nicely and she says she will do all of these things for me" and then find out in the room that all those things she wanted to do cost extra.[/QUOTE]Obviously I'm not an expert as my First FKK visit is scheduled on Tuesday but I'm surprised that wearing underwear is allowed as I've read more than once it is a "no, no" ?

It doesn't bother me tbh either way although as stated it would prevent a raging hard on while in the lounge LOL!

[QUOTE=HggCraig69;2100659]How bad is it to wear underwear under your robe? I take Cialis everyday to help my blood pressure and prostate and might be embarrassing with a full blown tent during my whole stay there.
[/QUOTE]It's a sex club. Arousal is natural. Don't be embarrassed about your erections.

[QUOTE=Canary;2100858]Obviously I'm not an expert as my First FKK visit is scheduled on Tuesday but I'm surprised that wearing underwear is allowed as I've read more than once it is a "no, no" ?

It doesn't bother me tbh either way although as stated it would prevent a raging hard on while in the lounge LOL![/QUOTE]Underwear ensures no chance of a hand under the robe😣.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2100966]Underwear ensures no chance of a hand under the robe😣.[/QUOTE]I usually wear some underwear simply because I don't really fancy walking around with a big "happy-to-see-me" bulge in my bathrobe or towel. LOL.

[QUOTE=Canary;2100858]Obviously I'm not an expert as my First FKK visit is scheduled on Tuesday but I'm surprised that wearing underwear is allowed as I've read more than once it is a "no, no" ?

It doesn't bother me tbh either way although as stated it would prevent a raging hard on while in the lounge LOL![/QUOTE]Most of the guys with underwear are from Muslim culture, never saw a Asian guy wearing it.

[QUOTE=Canary;2100858]Obviously I'm not an expert as my First FKK visit is scheduled on Tuesday but I'm surprised that wearing underwear is allowed as I've read more than once it is a "no, no" ?

It doesn't bother me tbh either way although as stated it would prevent a raging hard on while in the lounge LOL![/QUOTE]It's not a "no no". Lots of guys do it. I also agree that its a sex club so the girls won't howl laughing = they think its fun and are pleased you are ready for business! For them the worst guy is someone who sits in the lounge talking to 50 girls and never goes to a room. A guy with a boner is going to want to take a girl to a room to use it! I don't wear underwear. Not because I'm exhibitionist or have a huge dick. But simply because it's quite nice, instead of embarrassing, to be in the lounge with nothing but a robe between you and a boner on display and if you get talking to a girl and she can see it so what? She has her pussy out! Just enjoy it. It's no big deal. Other guys won't care. Even having now been to FKKs over 100 times if I don't go for a few months I get a boner on when I get into the lounge surrounded by naked girls. That's good! Chill out, realise that nobody cares. Other than the girls who will be pleased.

So next week I will have a couple days in Berlin and will be visiting Artemis (and hopefully a couple other places Anni Porsche, Liberty, Royale, or Van Kampen) as well as some sightseeing. Will be there on the 8th or 9th, maybe both. Have read back about 20 pages, thank you all for the info. I know entry is 80 and 30 min is 60 plus extras correct? First time in FKK but not novice at traveling or mongering so hoping for good time. If anyone will be around, I'm happy to have a beer with you. You can PM. I'll report when I return.

Gaspar.

[QUOTE=AgentNash;2096843]Intel needed: German girl with purple hair, great body and 'puta' tattoo on her lower back, any idea?[/QUOTE]Zoe. (Ten characters needed.).

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2101431]Zoe. (Ten characters needed.).[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying the correct orthography. That will certainly help AgentNash. However, I guess she would make more money if her name would be Zoey.

Also a question to the underwear guys. How do you handle the problem of clothing in the shower, sauna or pool? Do you bring several underpants?

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2101431]Zoe. (Ten characters needed.).[/QUOTE]Thanks. She have a killer body.

I'm going to give it a try in 2 weeks.

Also, any recommended duo?

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2101497]Thanks for clarifying the correct orthography. That will certainly help AgentNash. However, I guess she would make more money if her name would be Zoey.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I didn't notice you've answered the question before. Sorry for that.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2101685]Unfortunately I didn't notice you've answered the question before. Sorry for that.[/QUOTE]Oh no no sir, no need to excuse. As I was just a reader for a long time, I always found your contributions helpful and on point. Besides, I'm sure Agentnash will appreciate your answer too, like he did. At least I would be grateful for many also different answers to my questions.

Maybe you have some more informations about Zoe. All I can contribute is that she should be a nice young lady and someone could expect a solid German PSE. Unfortunately, that's not really much, I know.

If my post may have been a little subtle or revealed a slightly different sense of humor, I may have to apologize. But this is PumDiPum and no algorithm.

I like to wish you a nice weekend.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2098821]Aylin was out 2-3 weeks ago and in the last two weeks she is in bordello.

Big beautiful tits? Her silicone is like the Michelin Man. They stand like rubber perpendicular twin towers. Try Kiara if you like Aylin.[/QUOTE]OK bordello, do you know where by any chance? Well for me they are beautiful! I don't rate Kiara highly, way to mechanical for my taste but I did see that she has bigger implants! I enjoyed Artemis this time, lineup was OK for my taste. Sessions with Carrie (Bul) and Rosa (DR) both with covered blowjob a bit disappointing, but also had a few sessions with bareback BJ for obvious reasons can't mention names but it was including normal price for an hour so no upselling.

Is Kati (DomRep, before at Palace and before that at Atlantis) still working at Artemis?

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2101824]Is Kati (DomRep, before at Palace and before that at Atlantis) still working at Artemis?[/QUOTE]No, but I've heard that her daughter have to start working in Hessen tourist clubs next year.

[QUOTE=GasparLeMarc12;2101154]I know entry is 80 and 30 min is 60 plus extras correct?

Gaspar.[/QUOTE]Hello Gaspar,

Right on the level. Stay decent and have fun with it.

[QUOTE=StrangeKicks;2101764]OK bordello, do you know where by any chance? Well for me they are beautiful! I don't rate Kiara highly, way to mechanical for my taste but I did see that she has bigger implants! I enjoyed Artemis this time, lineup was OK for my taste. Sessions with Carrie (Bul) and Rosa (DR) both with covered blowjob a bit disappointing, but also had a few sessions with bareback BJ for obvious reasons can't mention names but it was including normal price for an hour so no upselling.[/QUOTE]She is currently in the Artemis. Yep, Kiara is too mechanical and has bigger implants now.

Hey guys,

I'm planning a trip to another part of Europe and many of the flights have long layovers in either Frankfurt or Berlin so I have to choose one. I'm really into curvier, thicker girls. How are the girls at Artemis these days? I came there in 2013 and had a great time but I'm sure things have changed since then. Any girls with big butts?

[QUOTE=JoeShmoe;2104060]Hey guys,

I'm planning a trip to another part of Europe and many of the flights have long layovers in either Frankfurt or Berlin so I have to choose one. I'm really into curvier, thicker girls. How are the girls at Artemis these days? I came there in 2013 and had a great time but I'm sure things have changed since then. Any girls with big butts?[/QUOTE]Best LU is Shark, but at Artemis you will find plenty of big boobs, mostly silicone.

[QUOTE=JoeShmoe;2104060] Any girls with big butts?[/QUOTE]Yeah, things have changed. - You'll find a number of girls matching your wishes.

Is Geraldine from Hungary still around at Artemis?

I was thinking of trying Artemis for the first time. How much do you guys spend in the bar? Are the drinks expensive? I guess some girls expect you to buy them drinks. Are there other things that cost that are not related to sex?

Cheers.

A report on my first ever FKK visit on 7/11 as a thank you for all the kind advise I received beforehand.

However a warning, my review skills are very limited, if this helps anyone it might help newbies like myself?

Getting there:

From Schonefeld airport the S / Baht station is just a few hundred yards away and by using the S45 & S41 routes it was easy, very cheap and only took 50 minutes to Westkreuz station.

A Tip for new attendees:

What I found beneficial before I went was to look several times on Google Earth maps as it takes you straight into the club so I knew the complete layout of the club before I visited. This didn't make me look like a total newbie & I could just concentrate (if that's the word) on the naked female bodies.

Artemis the Club:

The receptionist was friendly & informative and after securing my valuables and showering I headed first to the Wellness part on the Ground floor. Used the sauna, had a drink and viewed the few girls who would saunter down looking for pray. Facilities are excellent & having stayed at 4 & 5 star hotels that's a compliment.

Then after nosing around the kino downstairs I went upstairs to the main lounge and my eyes were attacked by the sight of numerous ladies partially clothed or totally naked.

The Girls:

I was approached several times mainly by what looked like Romanians. None particularly I found personally attractive but mainly they were too pushy for my liking. Be prepared to stick to your guns because these girls don't accept a no until it's said several times in different polite ways.

Girl 1 I choose was my only disaster of the night. I had been there well over an hour and wasn't sure if I wanted her or not and I should have stuck to my initial feelings. Once in the room she kept trying to up sell, the more she did the more I was adamant I wouldn't be pushed around. When she finally gave in she became moody and tried to get me finished quickly but I had other ideas and took out my revenge by giving her one hell of a pounding.

Girl 2 called Nicole was exceptional. Tall, blonde hair with a fringe, just a little extra timber, natural breasts, intelligent and claims to come from The Czech Republic. She has been working there on / off for several years. After girl one I had a bad headache and when Nicole approached me I told her it was unlikely I would consider anything presently. Despite this she sat with me for over 25 minutes talking (there were few men in the club tbh) including going to the bar to get me an Expresso with lemon juice to help cure the headache. Later I saw her wave to me after she saw another client then later we bumped into each other. After another 20 min chat I decided to go with her if only for her non pushy attitude & interesting conversation.

Needless to say I spent a few amazing hours with her starting in the Kino with kissing, fondling, oral & sex. We then moved to one of the semi curtained beds in the lounge (never in my life have I been such an exerbisionist) and continued with very oily b2 be sessions, sex in various positions and more oral. I reluctantly agreed to anal sex as it's rarely my thing but my god we had three sessions of this and it was sublime.

Girl 3 was called Sidney who joined me with Nicole for a threesome for an hour. Sidney is blonde, a lot more slender than Nicole, tattoos on her back with a bum that I get easily gather in one hand. This girl can give a blow job with the suction of a hoover, unbelievable. We finished the threesome with Nicole fucking me anally and I was licking Sidney's pussy which was smothered in honey. Apparently according to Nicole there were several viewers watching which tbh I never noticed, I was so engrossed in the action.

Girl 4 was another blonde called Sisse from Bulgaria who was very heavily tattooed on her back, natural breasts, non pushy who couldn't do enough to please me. I only had a 30 min session with her because of the previous long and heavy session otherwise I would have stayed longer as she was very good at kissing, oral & sex.

Girl 5, how the hell I managed another lady I don't know but she did a pure PSE which really was really full on. Plenty of anal play on me, hard sex, tit wanking, oral both ways & toys. Although I only booked 30 minutes we did go over time. Her name was something like Fara, her English wasn't too clear. She was from Hungary, dark skinned, (looked a bit Asian to me! Big fake tits, probably around late thirties.

After girl number five and several hours of female "entertainment" I was totally shagged out so I had a brief rest on the Wellness floor with a few soft drinks before leaving around 4.15 am, over 13 hours of luxury & filth.

Conclusion:

I cannot compare with other Clubs as this was my first.

Positives; The place is exceptionally clean, very spacious, the girls were mostly pretty with some exceptional. If you have good judgement & pick the right girls you can have a blast. Facilities are excellent.

Negatives; I thought the food was average & I wasn't going to pay extra for alcohol, some of the girls were very pushy, too pushy in my opinion but it's up to you to stand your ground. The biggest problem I found was that the last few hours in the main lounge was exceptionally smokey, nearly every girl smoked although I couldn't detect when I was with them.

Tip; The girls are exceptionally observant and often know who you've been with, for how long etc. Don't be fooled they are mostly very on the ball, have your game plan, stick to the same story, don't be bullied into up sells for anything you don't really want or can afford.

Would I return? Goodness yes in the New Year but I hope to also visit another club too so I can compare, maybe in Frankfurt or elsewhere but as I use public transport in Germany I'm limited in my choices!

Sorry for the long rambling, I did warn you about my reporting skills but hopefully you might have got a bit of info from it.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2104819]I was thinking of trying Artemis for the first time. How much do you guys spend in the bar? Are the drinks expensive? I guess some girls expect you to buy them drinks. Are there other things that cost that are not related to sex?[/QUOTE]Softdrinks included. Alcoholic drinks 10 E each. Champagne more expensive, prices bottlewise, ask for prices / menu at the reception or at the counter in the main room. It's not necessary to shout for the girls. No other costs not related to sex.

Certainly reads like a Report of Distinction. Bravo to you for 5 in one session, as well being braver than most. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[QUOTE=Canary;2104905]A report on my first ever FKK visit on 7/11 as a thank you for all the kind advise I received beforehand.

However a warning, my review skills are very limited, if this helps anyone it might help newbies like myself?

Getting there:

From Schonefeld airport the S / Baht station is just a few hundred yards away and by using the S45 & S41 routes it was easy, very cheap and only took 50 minutes to Westkreuz station.

A Tip for new attendees:

What I found beneficial before I went was to look several times on Google Earth maps as it takes you straight into the club so I knew the complete layout of the club before I visited. This didn't make me look like a total newbie & I could just concentrate (if that's the word) on the naked female bodies.

Artemis the Club:

The receptionist was friendly & informative and after securing my valuables and showering I headed first to the Wellness part on the Ground floor. Used the sauna, had a drink and viewed the few girls who would saunter down looking for pray. Facilities are excellent & having stayed at 4 & 5 star hotels that's a compliment.

Then after nosing around the kino downstairs I went upstairs to the main lounge and my eyes were attacked by the sight of numerous ladies partially clothed or totally naked.

The Girls:

I was approached several times mainly by what looked like Romanians. None particularly I found personally attractive but mainly they were too pushy for my liking. Be prepared to stick to your guns because these girls don't accept a no until it's said several times in different polite ways.

Girl 1 I choose was my only disaster of the night. I had been there well over an hour and wasn't sure if I wanted her or not and I should have stuck to my initial feelings. Once in the room she kept trying to up sell, the more she did the more I was adamant I wouldn't be pushed around. When she finally gave in she became moody and tried to get me finished quickly but I had other ideas and took out my revenge by giving her one hell of a pounding.

Girl 2 called Nicole was exceptional. Tall, blonde hair with a fringe, just a little extra timber, natural breasts, intelligent and claims to come from The Czech Republic. She has been working there on / off for several years. After girl one I had a bad headache and when Nicole approached me I told her it was unlikely I would consider anything presently. Despite this she sat with me for over 25 minutes talking (there were few men in the club tbh) including going to the bar to get me an Expresso with lemon juice to help cure the headache. Later I saw her wave to me after she saw another client then later we bumped into each other. After another 20 min chat I decided to go with her if only for her non pushy attitude & interesting conversation.

Needless to say I spent a few amazing hours with her starting in the Kino with kissing, fondling, oral & sex. We then moved to one of the semi curtained beds in the lounge (never in my life have I been such an exerbisionist) and continued with very oily b2 be sessions, sex in various positions and more oral. I reluctantly agreed to anal sex as it's rarely my thing but my god we had three sessions of this and it was sublime.

Girl 3 was called Sidney who joined me with Nicole for a threesome for an hour. Sidney is blonde, a lot more slender than Nicole, tattoos on her back with a bum that I get easily gather in one hand. This girl can give a blow job with the suction of a hoover, unbelievable. We finished the threesome with Nicole fucking me anally and I was licking Sidney's pussy which was smothered in honey. Apparently according to Nicole there were several viewers watching which tbh I never noticed, I was so engrossed in the action.

Girl 4 was another blonde called Sisse from Bulgaria who was very heavily tattooed on her back, natural breasts, non pushy who couldn't do enough to please me. I only had a 30 min session with her because of the previous long and heavy session otherwise I would have stayed longer as she was very good at kissing, oral & sex.

Girl 5, how the hell I managed another lady I don't know but she did a pure PSE which really was really full on. Plenty of anal play on me, hard sex, tit wanking, oral both ways & toys. Although I only booked 30 minutes we did go over time. Her name was something like Fara, her English wasn't too clear. She was from Hungary, dark skinned, (looked a bit Asian to me! Big fake tits, probably around late thirties.

After girl number five and several hours of female "entertainment" I was totally shagged out so I had a brief rest on the Wellness floor with a few soft drinks before leaving around 4.15 am, over 13 hours of luxury & filth.

Conclusion:

I cannot compare with other Clubs as this was my first.

Positives; The place is exceptionally clean, very spacious, the girls were mostly pretty with some exceptional. If you have good judgement & pick the right girls you can have a blast. Facilities are excellent.

Negatives; I thought the food was average & I wasn't going to pay extra for alcohol, some of the girls were very pushy, too pushy in my opinion but it's up to you to stand your ground. The biggest problem I found was that the last few hours in the main lounge was exceptionally smokey, nearly every girl smoked although I couldn't detect when I was with them.

Tip; The girls are exceptionally observant and often know who you've been with, for how long etc. Don't be fooled they are mostly very on the ball, have your game plan, stick to the same story, don't be bullied into up sells for anything you don't really want or can afford.

Would I return? Goodness yes in the New Year but I hope to also visit another club too so I can compare, maybe in Frankfurt or elsewhere but as I use public transport in Germany I'm limited in my choices!

Sorry for the long rambling, I did warn you about my reporting skills but hopefully you might have got a bit of info from it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Canary;2104905]A report on my first ever FKK visit on 7/11 as a thank you for all the kind advise I received beforehand.

However a warning, my review skills are very limited, if this helps anyone it might help newbies like myself?

Getting there:

From Schonefeld airport the S / Baht station is just a few hundred yards away and by using the S45 & S41 routes it was easy, very cheap and only took 50 minutes to Westkreuz station.

A Tip for new attendees:

What I found beneficial before I went was to look several times on Google Earth maps as it takes you straight into the club so I knew the complete layout of the club before I visited. This didn't make me look like a total newbie & I could just concentrate (if that's the word) on the naked female bodies.

Artemis the Club:.[/QUOTE]Many clubs are accessible with public transport, if you ready to walk a bit. Many times I walked from Giessen railway station to World it is 13 kilometers, or to go Oase you need to walk 45 minutes, for Shark you don t need to walk there is a bus stop more or less in front of the club.

[QUOTE=Canary;2104905]A report on my first ever FKK visit on 7/11 as a thank you for all the kind advise I received beforehand.

However a warning, my review skills are very limited, if this helps anyone it might help newbies like myself?[/QUOTE]Thanks Canary for the brilliant report! Definitely helpful to newbies.

A few questions:

1. What was the damage?

2. Did Nicole (girl 2) not up sell? You said that you reluctantly agreed to anal, I'm assuming that this was not included in the standard price, right?

3. I was wondering how Sidney joined in. Was it Nicole's suggestion, or yours? Or did she see you in the Kino or lounge and asked to join in?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Jlifeson;2105438]Thanks Canary for the brilliant report! Definitely helpful to newbies.

A few questions:

1. What was the damage?

2. Did Nicole (girl 2) not up sell? You said that you reluctantly agreed to anal, I'm assuming that this was not included in the standard price, right?

3. I was wondering how Sidney joined in. Was it Nicole's suggestion, or yours? Or did she see you in the Kino or lounge and asked to join in?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Thanks for the compliment on the report.

1: Girls one, four & five were were 30 minutes each. Girl two was initially 30 minutes but I increased to one hour. Girl four I enjoyed so much that I did four hours. Total cost 780 + just the one extra 100 = 880. Although I prefer long bookings I only do these if I really "click" with a girl which doesn't often happen. (The honey pussy licking, anal play on me, kissing, oral, oily B2B and a toy all did not occur an extra charge).

2: Nicole offered it and initially I declined but as she was so good at everything else I thought I would give it a try & unsurprisingly she excelled at this too. She offered no other extras.

3: I decided to double up at the end & I picked out the girl. Nicole spoke to her first to see if she was happy to do what I wanted us to all do together and it worked out really well.

I would totally recommend a visit, just do plenty of preparation & planning as it will be beneficial for your visit.

Early next year I plan to return to Artemis and visit one of the Frankfurt venues.

Thanks Canary!

[QUOTE=Canary;2105669]1: Girls one, four & five were were 30 minutes each. Girl two was initially 30 minutes but I increased to one hour. Girl four I enjoyed so much that I did four hours. Total cost 780 + just the one extra 100 = 880. Although I prefer long bookings I only do these if I really "click" with a girl which doesn't often happen. (The honey pussy licking, anal play on me, kissing, oral, oily B2B and a toy all did not occur an extra charge).[/QUOTE]4 hours. Wow. That is some impressive stamina you got there!

So 4 hrs is 8 x 60. I would have thought that longer bookings are less (I think in NRW and Hessen they are).

Anyway, including entrance that comes out to just under a grand for a single (albeit spectacular) day.

One of the main reasons I was considering Berlin rather than Hessen or NRW, is that flights to Berlin for me are several hundred Euros less. It seems though that I would be making that up in just a single day at an FKK.

Now the main reason I have left for choosing Berlin is that AFAIK only Artemis has a gym on site, which would give me something to do between sessions while recuperating. Unlike you, I can't do 4 hours straight.

Can someone confirm that Akira (Thai) is back at Artemis?

[QUOTE=Canary;2105669]Thanks for the compliment on the report.

1: Girls one, four & five were were 30 minutes each. Girl two was initially 30 minutes but I increased to one hour. Girl four I enjoyed so much that I did four hours. Total cost 780 + just the one extra 100 = 880. Although I prefer long bookings I only do these if I really "click" with a girl which doesn't often happen. (The honey pussy licking, anal play on me, kissing, oral, oily B2B and a toy all did not occur an extra charge).

2: Nicole offered it and initially I declined but as she was so good at everything else I thought I would give it a try & unsurprisingly she excelled at this too. She offered no other extras.

3: I decided to double up at the end & I picked out the girl. Nicole spoke to her first to see if she was happy to do what I wanted us to all do together and it worked out really well.

I would totally recommend a visit, just do plenty of preparation & planning as it will be beneficial for your visit.

Early next year I plan to return to Artemis and visit one of the Frankfurt venues.[/QUOTE]Artemis is the worst big club in Germany, happy that you were satisfy but I will never go there again, very nice tourist trap.

[QUOTE=StrangeKicks;2106191]Can someone confirm that Akira (Thai) is back at Artemis?[/QUOTE]When I was there last week one of the girls said there was a Thai girl working at the club but wasn't working that day. I didn't ask the name of the girl so if this Thai girl is the only Thai working there then in answer to your question its yes.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2098096]Look, GFE, Oily B2 B, kissing, reverse oral & light spanking are all pretty basic services and should be included in the basic price. I suggest to avoid upsellers and go for the decent girls. Be prepared to say no to the first girls that appraoch you. If you start acting like a pushover, then suddenly all girls will act as upsellers. It's up to you.[/QUOTE]This isn't basic in Artemis.

[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2098012]The first girl I took to the room I interviewed very thoroughly beforehand. I asked her if she enjoyed kissing ("Oh yes, I love to kiss. I'll kiss the whole time") and if she liked DATY ("Mmmm, of course baby, it's my favorite") and if she will lick my balls ("Ohh yes, I lick from the head all the way down the shaft and play with the balls. I love to suck cock") Everything I asked if she liked to do, enjoyed doing, wanted to do, she said yes. I said "Let's go. ".

In the room she told me the rate would be 180 euros. I said "Oh, I just wanted 30 minutes. " She said "That is for 30 minutes. Plus licking me, plus kissing, plus licking your balls, plus BBBJ". I should have left right then. In the end I told her that I just wanted the standard 60 euro session, and it was the most mechanical, boring session of my trip.[/QUOTE]Do you have a name?

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1997406]In Artemis since December 2015. GFE, smooth French Kissing, DATY. Don't be disappointed, she's got plastic tits. Recommended and worth a try.[/QUOTE]She has been gone for a while, does anybody know if she is back? Two weeks ago was still gone.

Had 2 sessions on Thursday night.

1 hour PSE session with hot new Brazilian MILF (no name sorry) - superb PSE session as Latina should provide.

1 hour GFE session with Lilia (no hair band any more) , as usual perfect 10/10.

I saw Zoe there, looks like a hot porn cyborg, something only Rocco Siffredi can handle, but I didn't have the power to session with her, maybe next time.

Will be back next month.

Hi friends,

I'm planning a trip to Berlin. Has anyone of you seen those two stunners in the club lately?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2106936]She has been gone for a while, does anybody know if she is back? Two weeks ago was still gone.[/QUOTE]I was told there's another girl called Olga now.

[QUOTE=AgentNash;2107172]1 hour GFE session with Lilia (no hair band any more) , as usual perfect 10/10.[/QUOTE]She lost the ribbon, and she lost some pounds, too. Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2098096]Look, GFE, Oily B2 B, kissing, reverse oral & light spanking are all pretty basic services and should be included in the basic price. I suggest to avoid upsellers and go for the decent girls. Be prepared to say no to the first girls that appraoch you. If you start acting like a pushover, then suddenly all girls will act as upsellers. It's up to you.[/QUOTE]Not true. And, definitely not true in Artemis where it seem like all girls took the same upselling seminar.

Who has the best natural looking tits at Artemis?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2085214]Hungarian Geraldine quite the business as far as I know now though, but she was good.[/QUOTE]She's one of the good ones? - that's true. She quitted business? - no, that's BS.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2111988]She's one of the good ones? - that's true. She quitted business? - no, that's BS.[/QUOTE]Oh you have seen her at Artemis lately?

What is the situation at Artemis around BBBJ? Still available? At extra cost? Or only within 1 h sessions? Thanks.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2112053]What is the situation at Artemis around BBBJ? Still available? At extra cost? Or only within 1 h sessions? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Maybe you've figured it out, too, BBBJ is banned by law since July 1st.

Geraldine:

[QUOTE=MrHo;2111997]Oh you have seen her at Artemis lately?[/QUOTE]Yes.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2112147]Geraldine:

Yes.[/QUOTE]Once you tute, you cannot quit LOL.

She says she quit many year ago like in 2015 LOL.

Hi there, just making an inquiry, but going rate is 60 Euros per half hour?

[QUOTE=OfficeMatt;2113046]Hi there, just making an inquiry, but going rate is 60 Euros per half hour?[/QUOTE]Yes.

€80 admission charge.

€60 for 30 min, no discount for 60 min so €120 for that.

[QUOTE=OfficeMatt;2113046]Hi there, just making an inquiry, but going rate is 60 Euros per half hour?[/QUOTE]Yes. (Ten characters needed.).

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2112147]Maybe you've figured it out, too, BBBJ is banned by law since July 1st. [/QUOTE]And no one would break the law in Germany. Absolutely no way any hooker would break the rules in a locked room with no one else around except the guy who is paying her for sex. Absolutely forbidden and there's no BBBJ to be had.

Unless you, you know, ask for it.

[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2113533]And no one would break the law in Germany. Absolutely no way any hooker would break the rules in a locked room with no one else around except the guy who is paying her for sex. Absolutely forbidden and there's no BBBJ to be had.

Unless you, you know, ask for it.[/QUOTE]Usually, the girls do not lock rooms since this would cause a delay if help is needed. But I have not heard of a single case where german police was controlling in a room whether a condom was used. This can become an issue during gangbang parties etc.

However, most of the girls are offering BBBJ as an option with extra prices after the law has changed (usually 20 Euros, sometimes more). I have not met a single girl that refused BBBJ in a sauna club due to the change of the law.

[QUOTE=HossC;2113625]I have not met a single girl that refused BBBJ in a sauna club due to the change of the law.[/QUOTE]Well, this is true for many Clubs in Germany, but it's definitively not true for Artemis. Most girls there won't give you BBBJ if they don't know you. And even if they know you more than 50% will say no.

[QUOTE=TheGame05;2113144]Yes.

80 admission charge.

60 for 30 min, no discount for 60 min so 120 for that.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much!

And to answer another post, I always lock the door!

[QUOTE=Karat;2113680]Well, this is true for many Clubs in Germany, but it's definitively not true for Artemis. Most girls there won't give you BBBJ if they don't know you. And even if they know you more than 50% will say no.[/QUOTE]So Artemis has high tendency of CBJ now?

[QUOTE=AgentNash;2107172]Had 2 sessions on Thursday night.

1 hour PSE session with hot new Brazilian MILF (no name sorry) - superb PSE session as Latina should provide.

1 hour GFE session with Lilia (no hair band any more) , as usual perfect 10/10.

I saw Zoe there, looks like a hot porn cyborg, something only Rocco Siffredi can handle, but I didn't have the power to session with her, maybe next time.

Will be back next month.[/QUOTE]Can you describe who is Zoe?

[QUOTE=HossC;2113625]Usually, the girls do not lock rooms since this would cause a delay if help is needed. But I have not heard of a single case where german police was controlling in a room whether a condom was used. This can become an issue during gangbang parties etc.

However, most of the girls are offering BBBJ as an option with extra prices after the law has changed (usually 20 Euros, sometimes more). I have not met a single girl that refused BBBJ in a sauna club due to the change of the law.[/QUOTE]Girls say no all the time. Artemis actually improved on that as compared to a few months ago when it was a strict no. Now they just ask for extra or a longer session while a few months ago I was refused systemically. Wednesday, three BBBJ only one was extra and Sunday only one, but still. I stopped coming because of this, but it improve significantly, so it is worth the drive now.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2112053]What is the situation at Artemis around BBBJ? Still available? At extra cost? Or only within 1 h sessions? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Artemis is getting better with that. Possibly girls understand that it isn't such a big deal and were a bit on edge because of the new rule in the start.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2107450]I was told there's another girl called Olga now.

She lost the ribbon, and she lost some pounds, too. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Met Lilia earlier this week, had a good time as usually. Only half hour, but still above average. She looks more slim and all that, but guy's she does not swing of the ceiling, juggling fire sticks and blowing dick at the same time. She is not a super hero. Just a girl.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2113987]Girls say no all the time. Artemis actually improved on that as compared to a few months ago when it was a strict no. Now they just ask for extra or a longer session while a few months ago I was refused systemically. Wednesday, three BBBJ only one was extra and Sunday only one, but still. I stopped coming because of this, but it improve significantly, so it is worth the drive now.[/QUOTE]If it is CBJ club, it is not worth going there unless it is forced LOL.

Sorry for the late report, but better late than never.

Visited the club in the last week of November on Tuesday and reached there around 1500. There were around 20 girls and maybe 10 guys. I was surprised to see that all girls were below 7 (my luck was bad). I was hoping that I will wait in the Lobby and enjoy the view till I find the right girl. I was looking for a girl with pale skin, firm boobs and young. Yes, I am picky, but that is what I wanted at that moment and I was willing to wait.

Many girls approached me and I politely and respectfully sent them away saying that I want to settle for some more time. But few of them were very aggressive. After one hour of waiting and not finding anyone, I was getting desperate. Few girls who approached me before came to me and starting saying rude things. For example one girl said "you wait and wait and have sex in next 20 years". I normally do not take insults, but I understand the girls frustration. This was a super boring and calm day for them and difficult to get clients, and I was not making it any easier for them. So I smiled and waited more.

Mirem (or sounded like it), non white skin, full of tattoos, not young and not slim came to me and started talking casually. After 15 minutes of talk, some chemistry was built up and I took her the zimmer. Yes, all the things I was looking for in a girl were overweight by this girls patience to build the chemistry. Took just 30 minutes of normal boring sex with condom as she started the upselling once in room. She started to talk me into taking one hour and spent 5 minutes trying to convince me. This clearly took the mood away. Gave her her 60 euros and kissed good bye. Will never never session with her. My bad.

Then I saw Avril from Romania. Pale skin like marble, slim, early 30's but looked very young. I told her that I do not want to go to room but want to talk to her for sometime and see how it goes. She said that she can stay with me to talk if it is accompanied by time in room. I said that I am not ready for room yet. I did not want to sit alone so I offered her that we sit somewhere in the corner and I will compensate her for her 30 minutes time. We went to the end of the Lobby near the kitchen and stayed there for 40 minutes. She is not looking at watch and was fun to talk. I know, that I could have had more fun in the room, but I wanted to just spend time with her and make her relaxed with me, so that she is not torturing me to go to the room all the time.

This turned out well. She was awesome to hangout and then we went into the round bed with curtain in the lobby. Stayed there for more than an hour. Did a lot of stuff, 69, DATY, cowgirl, miss, doggy in a very relaxed way. Kisses and hugs in between. It was total GFE. I did not ask for anything without condom, probably she would have agreed, but this time my instincts were to stay safe. It was little more than one and half hour with her for which I paid 200€ and she was happy. Showered and was super hungry so came to the kitchen to find her again there. We both had some food together and I left the club and writing this report. Ahhh thinking all this made me horny again, good that I told the receptionist that I will come back later (I do this every time just in case).

Forgot to mention in my last report that I revisited Artemis in the afternoon around 1300. There were around 20 girls below 7/10 for me so without even trying, left the club after writing in the reception that I will be back. After writing the report later, it made me horny and I wanted to try my luck again. Went back around 2100 and there were around 80 girls. Found my girl, forgot the name, but she is Romanian and the only one with spectacles (eye glasses). Plain and dry 30 minutes sessions, but she was hot enough for me that I came in doggy position. She did not try to upsell, so my mood was good.

Hung around for 30-40 minutes in the lobby after that to enjoy the view and then left as I felt tired. I know, it is too much to pay for the entrance for one session. But I enjoyed the view in the lobby long enough to compensate for that.

[QUOTE=NorskKing;2116162]Sorry for the late report, but better late than never.

Visited the club in the last week of November on Tuesday and reached there around 1500. There were around 20 girls and maybe 10 guys. I was surprised to see that all girls were below 7 (my luck was bad). I was hoping that I will wait in the Lobby and enjoy the view till I find the right girl. I was looking for a girl with pale skin, firm boobs and young. Yes, I am picky, but that is what I wanted at that moment and I was willing to wait.

Many girls approached me and I politely and respectfully sent them away saying that I want to settle for some more time. But few of them were very aggressive. After one hour of waiting and not finding anyone, I was getting desperate. Few girls who approached me before came to me and starting saying rude things. For example one girl said "you wait and wait and have sex in next 20 years". I normally do not take insults, but I understand the girls frustration. This was a super boring and calm day for them and difficult to get clients, and I was not making it any easier for them. So I smiled and waited more.

Mirem (or sounded like it), non white skin, full of tattoos, not young and not slim came to me and started talking casually. After 15 minutes of talk, some chemistry was built up and I took her the zimmer. Yes, all the things I was looking for in a girl were overweight by this girls patience to build the chemistry. Took just 30 minutes of normal boring sex with condom as she started the upselling once in room. She started to talk me into taking one hour and spent 5 minutes trying to convince me. This clearly took the mood away. Gave her her 60 euros and kissed good bye..[/QUOTE]So they use condom BJ at Artemis now?

[QUOTE=NorskKing;2116162]Many girls approached me and I politely and respectfully sent them away saying that I want to settle for some more time. But few of them were very aggressive. After one hour of waiting and not finding anyone, I was getting desperate. Few girls who approached me before came to me and starting saying rude things. For example one girl said "you wait and wait and have sex in next 20 years".[/QUOTE]Well that always changes minds doesn't it? Some of these tutes could really learn a thing or two about successful sales tactics. Some people here are always making excuses for the girls no matter what, but there are no excuses for this type of behaviour, and all it does it put off the clients.

[QUOTE=NorskKing;2116187]Forgot to mention in my last report that I revisited Artemis in the afternoon around 1300. There were around 20 girls below 7/10 for me so without even trying, left the club after writing in the reception that I will be back. After writing the report later, it made me horny and I wanted to try my luck again. Went back around 2100 and there were around 80 girls. Found my girl, forgot the name, but she is Romanian and the only one with spectacles (eye glasses). Plain and dry 30 minutes sessions, but she was hot enough for me that I came in doggy position. She did not try to upsell, so my mood was good.

Hung around for 30-40 minutes in the lobby after that to enjoy the view and then left as I felt tired. I know, it is too much to pay for the entrance for one session. But I enjoyed the view in the lobby long enough to compensate for that.[/QUOTE]Artemis, girls don't care much about clients as repeat client are an insignificant portion of visitors. The girls have really bad attitude and don't treat clients as graciously as in the Frankfurt area clubs. The good girls there are girls that come from the clubs in the other side of the country. That said, they also get a bit spoiled in that environment, knowing that they can do a lot less and get a lot more.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2116253]So they use condom BJ at Artemis now?[/QUOTE]It looked that way, I did not try hard for BBBJ though but most of them said they won't do it.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2116253]So they use condom BJ at Artemis now?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheCane;2116275]Well that always changes minds doesn't it? Some of these tutes could really learn a thing or two about successful sales tactics. Some people here are always making excuses for the girls no matter what, but there are no excuses for this type of behaviour, and all it does it put off the clients.[/QUOTE]Some seniors / regulars at Artemis might see completely different side (nicer side) of these girls and probably they won't understand their rudeness to others. Does not matter if they defend them or not, but most of the girls in Artemis are getting rude to non regulars. Two years ago I used to come here thinking that this is a place where I can feel like a God and think that I can choose from tons of absolute beauties who are just dying to have me (I know it is not the truth, but nothing wrong in feeling that when the girls enabled you to image that). But these days I cannot have that imaginary fantasy anymore here at least at Artemis. The girls do not anymore enable me to think that I am a GOD and they all are there to please me. No disrespect to girls, but Artemis lost its high rating in my opinion. There is a lot of negative thing about only CBJ rule. Yes this is little negative and adds to the overall bad things going on in other aspects.

I will from now on have high preference to travel to either Sharks or Vienna instead of travelling to Berlin. At least until the Artemis staff tries to do something with the quality and manners of the girls.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2116388]Artemis, girls don't care much about clients as repeat client are an insignificant portion of visitors. The girls have really bad attitude and don't treat clients as graciously as in the Frankfurt area clubs. The good girls there are girls that come from the clubs in the other side of the country. That said, they also get a bit spoiled in that environment, knowing that they can do a lot less and get a lot more.[/QUOTE]Danny,

I managed to still get girl with decent behavior. The shocking thing for me was to see that few girls rejecting Asian guys. I can understand that they have a right to choose and decide, but the guys were looking decent and approached the girl in a decent way. I did not understand why few girls consistently said no to them. Curiosity was killing me, so I went and asked them, these guys said that they are first timers to the club, so there was no history for the girls to behave like this. I do not know if they have a blacklist of countries to say no. But I was not expecting it, and was disturbed by this. I do not know if this is same in other clubs.

Like I said, the girls are humans and have right to say no, but just not based on country of origin, that is racism.

[QUOTE=NorskKing;2116472]Danny,

I managed to still get girl with decent behavior. The shocking thing for me was to see that few girls rejecting Asian guys. I can understand that they have a right to choose and decide, but the guys were looking decent and approached the girl in a decent way. I did not understand why few girls consistently said no to them. Curiosity was killing me, so I went and asked them, these guys said that they are first timers to the club, so there was no history for the girls to behave like this. I do not know if they have a blacklist of countries to say no. But I was not expecting it, and was disturbed by this. I do not know if this is same in other clubs.

Like I said, the girls are humans and have right to say no, but just not based on country of origin, that is racism.[/QUOTE]The point eludes you. However, I will entertain this for a second, What is decent and who wants it? But even so, the probability of finding decent in Artemis is much lower than not so otherwise emphasized touristic clubs.

As for the Asians, who knows why the girl didn't go, sometimes they just don't feel like it, they are essentially human, you know. In addition, the girls can reject you on any basis as it is not illegal to be racist and it is not illegal to boycott an entire country, but that is a completely unrealistic assumption, this girls love money and they don't care about your origin, just about your money.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2116253]So they use condom BJ at Artemis now?[/QUOTE]Yes, they do for a few month. It was more strict before and it gets more relaxed now, but not for clients they don't know. Artemis as a club is more strict about this than other clubs and some girls make there money anyway, so CBJ is a gift for them and they don't do without for anyone. I had one of my regulars tell me that she will never do without again as long as she is making money this way. Some girls are still super, but also lots are on vacation now, so it is a good time to assess the situation.

[QUOTE=NorskKing;2116472]Danny,

I managed to still get girl with decent behavior. The shocking thing for me was to see that few girls rejecting Asian guys. I can understand that they have a right to choose and decide, but the guys were looking decent and approached the girl in a decent way. I did not understand why few girls consistently said no to them. Curiosity was killing me, so I went and asked them, these guys said that they are first timers to the club, so there was no history for the girls to behave like this. I do not know if they have a blacklist of countries to say no. But I was not expecting it, and was disturbed by this. I do not know if this is same in other clubs.

Like I said, the girls are humans and have right to say no, but just not based on country of origin, that is racism.[/QUOTE]I know 2-3 Artemis girls who usually say no to over 50% of the clients asking them. Not going to name names, but they just don't feel like working that much and handpicks their clients. It doesn't seem to be race related tough. But perhaps money related or other factors.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2116732]Yes, they do for a few month. It was more strict before and it gets more relaxed now, but not for clients they don't know. Artemis as a club is more strict about this than other clubs and some girls make there money anyway, so CBJ is a gift for them and they don't do without for anyone. I had one of my regulars tell me that she will never do without again as long as she is making money this way. Some girls are still super, but also lots are on vacation now, so it is a good time to assess the situation.[/QUOTE]Well then, bye bye Artemis, there are so many other nicer clubs in Germany and if Germany is down, we can go to many nations next which offer same FKK set up.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2116732]Yes, they do for a few month. It was more strict before and it gets more relaxed now, but not for clients they don't know. Artemis as a club is more strict about this than other clubs and some girls make there money anyway, so CBJ is a gift for them and they don't do without for anyone. I had one of my regulars tell me that she will never do without again as long as she is making money this way. Some girls are still super, but also lots are on vacation now, so it is a good time to assess the situation.[/QUOTE]Will be in Berlin with an evening I could spend at Artemis. Guess I'll skip, find a good restaurant and spend my money and sperm elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2116725]The point eludes you. However, I will entertain this for a second, What is decent and who wants it? But even so, the probability of finding decent in Artemis is much lower than not so otherwise emphasized touristic clubs.

As for the Asians, who knows why the girl didn't go, sometimes they just don't feel like it, they are essentially human, you know. In addition, the girls can reject you on any basis as it is not illegal to be racist and it is not illegal to boycott an entire country, but that is a completely unrealistic assumption, this girls love money and they don't care about your origin, just about your money.[/QUOTE]I do not have that much experience in Artemis like others. Just been there like a dozen times in total. What you said logically makes sense of what girls in club want and why they are there. But like I mentioned before, that I never experienced this before. I mostly saw girls very receptive. I clearly see a change. The logical explanation you gave is valid, but the girls seems to be applying this recently. I hope I am wrong, since I do not want fewer options of clubs I can access. But clearly Artemis is no go for me for some time to come. Ill try Vienna and Singapore for my next trips.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2116910]I know 2-3 Artemis girls who usually say no to over 50% of the clients asking them. Not going to name names, but they just don't feel like working that much and handpicks their clients. It doesn't seem to be race related tough. But perhaps money related or other factors.[/QUOTE]If girls have that much option that they can say no to 50% of clients and hand pick them. Then I will be super cautious to approach a girl in public, just out of fear of embarrassment of rejection in a place lime this. If I want rejections I can approach girls outside the club without paying entrance fee. I don't mwan anything negative to girls. Good for them that this club is turning out to be in their favor, but I don't want to pay big entry fee for this. Smaller clubs in Nuremberg have 15 to 30€ entry fee. Yes fewer options with girls but they will for sure NOT say no to anyone.

[QUOTE=NorskKing;2117348]If girls have that much option that they can say no to 50% of clients and hand pick them. Then I will be super cautious to approach a girl in public, just out of fear of embarrassment of rejection in a place lime this. If I want rejections I can approach girls outside the club without paying entrance fee. I don't mwan anything negative to girls. Good for them that this club is turning out to be in their favor, but I don't want to pay big entry fee for this. Smaller clubs in Nuremberg have 15 to 30 entry fee. Yes fewer options with girls but they will for sure NOT say no to anyone.[/QUOTE]It's only 2-3 girls that I know of out of 3-400 Artemis girls throught the last 5 years. No idea what their real reasons for it is. But they have the looks and can choose I guess.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2116910]I know 2-3 Artemis girls who usually say no to over 50% of the clients asking them. Not going to name names, but they just don't feel like working that much and handpicks their clients. It doesn't seem to be race related tough. But perhaps money related or other factors.[/QUOTE]Geraldine only goes with regulars after her second or third year, she learnt the game LOL.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2116910]I know 2-3 Artemis girls who usually say no to over 50% of the clients asking them. Not going to name names, but they just don't feel like working that much and handpicks their clients. It doesn't seem to be race related tough. But perhaps money related or other factors.[/QUOTE]The "good" girls in Artemis have a gazillion options and no fear of repeat customers or reviews. In Artmis, all they need is one or two good sessions and the day is over. Tourists drink more and they come horny, hence a better prey. They go for the easy money and if they think you won't spend enough and might be hard work, next!

[QUOTE=NorskKing;2117348]If girls have that much option that they can say no to 50% of clients and hand pick them. Then I will be super cautious to approach a girl in public, just out of fear of embarrassment of rejection in a place lime this. If I want rejections I can approach girls outside the club without paying entrance fee. I don't mwan anything negative to girls. Good for them that this club is turning out to be in their favor, but I don't want to pay big entry fee for this. Smaller clubs in Nuremberg have 15 to 30 entry fee. Yes fewer options with girls but they will for sure NOT say no to anyone.[/QUOTE]I rarely ever approach a girl in a club. That's not out of a fear of rejection, but more along the lines of what you said about not wanting to feel like your dealing with girls in a "regular" setting. I don't want to spend my time running around going up to different girls just because I don't feel like it LOL! Like you say, if I want to do that, then stay outside of an FKK club! I'm not interested in working at it. I want to relax and enjoy myself. And I'm not going to do that if I feel like I have to keep going up to this girl and that one essentially asking them if they want to fuck.

Now, what I have found is that in fact I don't need to approach girls in the FKK clubs. Many, many, many approach me. More than I could ever fuck due to both financial and stamina reasons LOL! So, I let them approach, and I the monger choose. This is how it should be! Now, the only time I will assertively pursue a tute is if I see one that I just got to have! That usually happens only with one girl per trip. I usually will only see one who will bring out the "hunter" in me. Last time, that one just happened to be "Lilia" who was working at Artemis. No, she's not Wonder Woman with magical powers, but I wanted her based on her looks alone. And she turned out to give me some awesome sessions!

Everybody has their own way of doing things in the clubs. Some guys get annoyed with constant approaches from the girls. I do not as long as they are nice and courteous about it and can graciously accept a "no thank you" from me. It's only when they cop a "tude" or start getting shitty about it that I don't like it and just may decide to give them some attitude back. They are in the sales business! Learn how to accept "no" and move on!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2116997]Well then, bye bye Artemis, there are so many other nicer clubs in Germany and if Germany is down, we can go to many nations next which offer same FKK set up.[/QUOTE]True, I guess we'll see how it goes, sometimes there's still no choice.

[QUOTE=NorskKing;2117345]What you said logically makes sense of what girls in club want and why they are there. The logical explanation you gave is valid, but the girls seems to be applying this recently.[/QUOTE]What we have to remember is that when it comes to people, logic often does not rule the day! After all, we're humans not Vulcans. And humans are emotional beings. Those emotions normally lead to people doing illogical things. I mean, if a tute wants to earn the most money possible, and I would bet my own last dollar that the overwhelming number of them would say that they do, well then they wouldn't do things like turn somebody away based on race, color, or nationality. But we all know that some girls do that. Logic says take the money-making opportunity if making the most money possible is what you want to do. But then some emotion that comes from somewhere says I don't want to go with that type of guy, whatever the reason. So, it's all well and good to make it seem as though logic (take the money) drives a tute's choices in this. It sounds all nice and neat, but that's just not true. Human behavior is much, much more complex than that, often leading to irrational choices and behavior.

Consider the pricing structure at GT and the impact that has on tute behavior. Actually, I don't know if it's still true or not, but at GT the pricing structure was such that for a basic session it was 50 euros for the first half hour, then 25 euros for the second half hour, or 75 euros for an hour. Well, a lot of the girls didn't want to do hour-long sessions because they felt like they would be shorted 25 euros. They would rather do back-to-back hour long sessions with two different customers and make 100 euros on the hour versus stick with one customer for an hour and only make 75 euros. Sounds logical. Right? Until you realize that most of these girls couldn't line up back-to-back sessions with different customers! Works great for a really popular, high-demand girl who is constantly going to the room. But most of the girls would spend a substantial amount of time leaning against the wall waiting for another trick! They weren't lining up back-to-backs, and in fact would have earned more money by making that extra 25 euros for the second half hour with the same customer versus waiting for an elusive opportunity to make 50 euros over a second half hour with another customer. If making the most money was what they desired, then that would have been the most logical thing to do. But no, they were making the choice to pass up that extra money-making opportunity all because their emotions were telling them I'm getting shorted 25 euros. Not seeing the forest for the trees due to emotions!

Now, I'm not saying that illogical tute choices are "wrong" per se. That's often a personal determination based on a particular set or facts or circumstances. The main point I'm trying to make is that although the girls obviously want to make a lot of money, because they are human beings just like everybody else, they will often make irrational, emotion-based decisions that actually limit their money-making opportunities versus expanding them. That's my central point. I remember I met one tute at Mainhattan years ago who didn't want to go with any married mongers. If you want to make the most money, then logic would say fuck the married guys too, who make up a significant part of the monger population. Thought to myself, "She won't last long". And she didn't either. But, at least I got to smash that pale, milk white, redhead ass! LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=NorskKing;2116472]The shocking thing for me was to see that few girls rejecting Asian guys. I can understand that they have a right to choose and decide, but the guys were looking decent and approached the girl in a decent way. I did not understand why few girls consistently said no to them. Curiosity was killing me, so I went and asked them, these guys said that they are first timers to the club, so there was no history for the girls to behave like this. [/QUOTE]Depends on their mood, how much money they've already made, how busy the club is. The WGs could have been waiting for their regulars to arrive. Lots of guys go to Artemis to party together. Some WGs prefer to go with drunk or drugged out clients. They are in a good mood. They pay well and all the WG has to do is sit with them. Plus the guy will probably share drugs with the WG as well.

[QUOTE=NorskKing;2116472]Danny,

I managed to still get girl with decent behavior. The shocking thing for me was to see that few girls rejecting Asian guys. I can understand that they have a right to choose and decide, but the guys were looking decent and approached the girl in a decent way. I did not understand why few girls consistently said no to them. Curiosity was killing me, so I went and asked them, these guys said that they are first timers to the club, so there was no history for the girls to behave like this. I do not know if they have a blacklist of countries to say no. But I was not expecting it, and was disturbed by this. I do not know if this is same in other clubs.

Like I said, the girls are humans and have right to say no, but just not based on country of origin, that is racism.[/QUOTE]Have they rejected guys from Japan, Korea or from Malaysia, India, it is not the same, some girls will never go with Indian guys or with black guys it is their choice, never forget that some Indian guys from the north will never married a Indian woman from the south of India. Some other girls will never go with a guy younger than 40 or older than 40, we choose the girl we want they also can choose their customer, it is as simple as that.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2117628]Depends on their mood, how much money they've already made, how busy the club is. The WGs could have been waiting for their regulars to arrive. Lots of guys go to Artemis to party together. Some WGs prefer to go with drunk or drugged out clients. They are in a good mood. They pay well and all the WG has to do is sit with them. Plus the guy will probably share drugs with the WG as well.[/QUOTE]Also most of the Asian guys are not shaved and some of them Chinese, Japanese have small dick and some girls really dislike having air in their mouth, that is also a big reason why they refuse to session with them.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2117541]I rarely ever approach a girl in a club.[/QUOTE]I'm the same way. I know that if the girl approaches me it gives me the power to say no, without risk of rejection. I know that she is comfortable with my age and body type. And since girls talk among themselves, after a while they all know that I insist on BBBJ, and so they won't bother approaching me if they don't offer it.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2117599]What we have to remember is that when it comes to people, logic often does not rule the day! After all, we're humans not Vulcans. And humans are emotional beings. Those emotions normally lead to people doing illogical things. I mean, if a tute wants to earn the most money possible, and I would bet my own last dollar that the overwhelming number of them would say that they do, well then they wouldn't do things like turn somebody away based on race, color, or nationality. But we all know that some girls do that. Logic says take the money-making opportunity if making the most money possible is what you want to do. But then some emotion that comes from somewhere says I don't want to go with that type of guy, whatever the reason. So, it's all well and good to make it seem as though logic (take the money) drives a tute's choices in this. It sounds all nice and neat, but that's just not true. Human behavior is much, much more complex than that, often leading to irrational choices and behavior.

Consider the pricing structure at GT and the impact that has on tute behavior. Actually, I don't know if it's still true or not, but at GT the pricing structure was such that for a basic session it was 50 euros for the first half hour, then 25 euros for the second half hour, or 75 euros for an hour. Well, a lot of the girls didn't want to do hour-long sessions because they felt like they would be shorted 25 euros. They would rather do back-to-back hour long sessions with two different customers and make 100 euros on the hour versus stick with one customer for an hour and only make 75 euros.[/QUOTE]GT changes the pricing of second half hour to 50 euro now, so it is 100 euro for one hour LOL.

I was at Artemis the other day. LU far from what you could expect a few years ago. I had 3 sessions and they were all above average, but it took me some time to find the right girls. I only fuck girls with silicone boobs. It's funny that people always complain about too much silicone in Artemis. When I was there it was maximum 20% girls with fake tits.

One of the girls told me that a lot of the regulars were on holiday because of Christmas and New Year's.

I would still say that Artemis is worth a visit if you are in Berlin, but the good old days are being missed.

[QUOTE=MagicM;2122422]I was at Artemis the other day. LU far from what you could expect a few years ago. I had 3 sessions and they were all above average, but it took me some time to find the right girls. I only fuck girls with silicone boobs. It's funny that people always complain about too much silicone in Artemis. When I was there it was maximum 20% girls with fake tits.

One of the girls told me that a lot of the regulars were on holiday because of Christmas and New Year's.

I would still say that Artemis is worth a visit if you are in Berlin, but the good old days are being missed.[/QUOTE]What do you mean about LU? Is it in good way or bad way?

I mean I stopped going in Artemis because line up and service became so bad. It lineup improved now?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2122570]What do you mean about LU? Is it in good way or bad way?[/QUOTE]Pretty sure he meant the lineup was bad compared to a few years ago.

This maybe a strange question but I'm going to ask it anyway.

When would the Club know the LU for a particular day?

I'm planning on returning (subject to the new law not ruining things) on 4th February & would like to know if three particular girls will be working.

[QUOTE=Canary;2123184]When would the Club know the LU for a particular day? I'm planning on returning (subject to the new law not ruining things) on 4th February & would like to know if three particular girls will be working.[/QUOTE]To be honest: No one's able to answer your question. - Fruit Logistica will start Feb 07, therefore you may expect a lot of girls normally. But, remember: the things have changed.

[QUOTE=Canary;2123184]This maybe a strange question but I'm going to ask it anyway.

When would the Club know the LU for a particular day?

I'm planning on returning (subject to the new law not ruining things) on 4th February & would like to know if three particular girls will be working.[/QUOTE]Nobody is able to give the LU of any club even the day before, you have to go and see, no other solution or you have the whatsapp from the girls you want to meet.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2123246]To be honest: No one's able to answer your question. - Fruit Logistica will start Feb 07, therefore you may expect a lot of girls normally. But, remember: the things have changed.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

I didn't know whether they did weekly or daily rota's or whether there's just no planning?

P.S: had to Google about "Fruit Logistica" so I've learnt something!

[QUOTE=Canary;2123271]Thanks. I didn't know whether they did weekly or daily rota's or whether there's just no planning?[/QUOTE]You're welcome. - It's the girls choice, day by day. No planning.

I am arriving into Berlin 18. Jan at night around 22 h. Is it possible to go to Artemis and have sex with all the lovely ladies and lounge (sleep) there until the morning so I do not have to pay for a hotel for one night?

Anyone do this before?

Danke schon!

[QUOTE=KenzoTange;2125743]I am arriving into Berlin 18. Jan at night around 22 h. Is it possible to go to Artemis and have sex with all the lovely ladies and lounge (sleep) there until the morning so I do not have to pay for a hotel for one night?

Anyone do this before?

Danke schon![/QUOTE]If you're asleep somewhere in the house you will be woken up by security at 5 am. Maybe there's another choice in case you're a big roller and you've got a girl willing to accompany you. If you're one of these lucky guys: feel free to ask at the front desk and have your wallet ready.

Leave, have a breakfast somewhere outside (e. G. Schwarzes Cafe Kantstrasse open 24 hrs. , except Tuesday morning) and start your new day. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=KenzoTange;2125743]I am arriving into Berlin 18. Jan at night around 22 h. Is it possible to go to Artemis and have sex with all the lovely ladies and lounge (sleep) there until the morning so I do not have to pay for a hotel for one night?

Anyone do this before?

Danke schon![/QUOTE]Eh, that was my plan I still didn't accomplish. Book a cheap low cost ticket, take the train + metro (kind of feel embarrassed to ask a taxi driver to bring me in a brothel), go to Artemis at opening hour, do 3 sessions, eat, take a nap and leave at 5 am, take the metro + train, sleep in the plane and go back home. I believe it is possible as I planned it and there isn't much walk. I might do it when weather will be warmer.

[QUOTE=KenzoTange;2125743]I am arriving into Berlin 18. Jan at night around 22 h. Is it possible to go to Artemis and have sex with all the lovely ladies and lounge (sleep) there until the morning so I do not have to pay for a hotel for one night?

Anyone do this before?

Danke schon![/QUOTE]I did this myself more or less when I visited my first FKK venue, Artemis, last November.

Arrived around 3 pm via train & didn't leave until just after 4 pm.

Don't be embarrassed about the taxi, I left by taxi to the other airport, no issues, they don't really care, just want your fare.

I'm planning a 2/3 days visit to different FKK's late Spring / early summer but I don't think I can wait that long so.

I might fit in another "flying visit" to Artemis next month.

So yes it's perfectly possible.

Chatting to an Italian guy he told me that he and his friends quite regularly caught a flight to Berlin on Saturday afternoon. Partied in Artemis until 5 am and then flew back on an early Sunday morning flight.

[QUOTE=Traveller63;2126598]Chatting to an Italian guy he told me that he and his friends quite regularly caught a flight to Berlin on Saturday afternoon. Partied in Artemis until 5 am and then flew back on an early Sunday morning flight.[/QUOTE]Very common but they can also easily monger in Austria probably closer to the home base, due to the departure of some Romanian girls not willing to register the LU in the Austrian clubs should have significantly improved.

[QUOTE=Traveller63;2126598]Chatting to an Italian guy he told me that he and his friends quite regularly caught a flight to Berlin on Saturday afternoon. Partied in Artemis until 5 am and then flew back on an early Sunday morning flight.[/QUOTE]That doesn't surprise me with such cheap flights on budget airlines although saying that I'm using air miles with BA, however the taxi fare from the airport (Tegal) is still sometimes more than the cost of the flight.

How is the LU in Berlin compared to Frankfurt fkks? Similar or typically slightly Lower quality?

[QUOTE=Gorge2;2127443]How is the LU in Berlin compared to Frankfurt fkks? Similar or typically slightly Lower quality?[/QUOTE]Artemis LU is for me not attractive, too many girlfriends from rock band members control the LU and are blocking the arrival of new and sexy girls. Obviously those girls are veteran from the P6 scene. Exactly the opposite of what happen in Hessen or NRW.

[QUOTE=Canary;2127349]That doesn't surprise me with such cheap flights on budget airlines although saying that I'm using air miles with BA, however the taxi fare from the airport (Tegal) is still sometimes more than the cost of the flight.[/QUOTE]Roundtrip from Tegel Airport to Artemis is about €40 and roundtrip from Schoenefeld Airport to Artemis is about €90 so you should keep that in mind when you book your flight to Berlin.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2127571]Roundtrip from Tegel Airport to Artemis is about 40 and roundtrip from Schoenefeld Airport to Artemis is about 90 so you should keep that in mind when you book your flight to Berlin.[/QUOTE]If you use public transportation from Tegel to Artemis, it is 2. 80€ and takes about the same time maybe 5 minutes more.

Does anybody know if Kati (DomRep), formerly Palace, is currently working at Artemis? Thank you.

[QUOTE=Canary;2123271]Thanks.

I didn't know whether they did weekly or daily rota's or whether there's just no planning?

P.S: had to Google about "Fruit Logistica" so I've learnt something![/QUOTE]You could try [URL]www.messe-berlin.com[/URL] if you want to know what events are on. If there is a big event Artemis can get crowded.

Some people think it is also worth looking at [URL]www.herthabsc.de[/URL] , to see if there is a game on.

[QUOTE=KenzoTange;2125743]I am arriving into Berlin 18. Jan at night around 22 h. Is it possible to go to Artemis and have sex with all the lovely ladies and lounge (sleep) there until the morning so I do not have to pay for a hotel for one night?

Anyone do this before?

Danke schon![/QUOTE]If you want to use public transport, you may want to check the time of the earliest train. Try [URL]www.s-bahn-berlin.de/en.[/URL] I think the earliest ones are before 05.00 hours.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2128033]Does anybody know if Kati (DomRep), formerly Palace, is currently working at Artemis? Thank you.[/QUOTE]She was still there about 6 months ago. At the moment I don't know.

[QUOTE=JimQuince;2128470]She was still there about 6 months ago. At the moment I don't know.[/QUOTE]Thanks but that I knew. Anybody who has seen her this year?

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2125858] (kind of feel embarrassed to ask a taxi driver to bring me in a brothel), [/QUOTE]LOL, these German taxi drivers are heavily into FKK's and any kind of sex for money themselves too. It's like talking to a fellow monger sometimes it feel.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2128563]LOL, these German taxi drivers are heavily into FKK's and any kind of sex for money themselves too. It's like talking to a fellow monger sometimes it feel.[/QUOTE]Once I was told off by very religious taxi driver in Frankfurt all the way back to my hotel about what I am doing there wasting money LOL.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2128615]Once I was told off by very religious taxi driver in Frankfurt all the way back to my hotel about what I am doing there wasting money LOL.[/QUOTE]Was he doing it in German? Because if it was in German I would not have understood anything, so say what you want. During one of my early trips to Artemis, I had a female taxi driver take me there. Well she got all bent out of shape, not because I was going to the tute house, but because it was for a relatively short distance LOL! That seems to annoy German taxi drivers more than those in other countries I have been to who are happy to take your money no matter what.

I was in Artemis this summer and I want to share my bad experience. I have been in two other FKK in Germany without anything out of the ordinary. So I found a good looking turkish girl wearing glasses and in our chat I tell that this was my first time there. Huge mistake, we go into the room and after 5 minutes, I kid you not, she tells me -you have to finish, time is up. I tried to continue with another position and she told me that I don't get another position for a half an hour session, so she stopped the hole thing telling me that's it's, she had to go. I was shocked and speechless and threatened to call the manager, then she offered to finish me with a handjob, so I stayed -mistake number 2. Of course this couldn't work out cause she really ruined it so after a while I told her to stop, and went down to pay her. I wasn't going to make a scene, but after I paid her she went to the reception to cover her ass, told them that I couldn't cum and left laughing at me. That made me furious so I did call the manager, and it came down to a he said- she said situation. The manager took the girls position basically saying that if I stayed in the room for a "normal" period of time, there is nothing she can do but watch the cameras to verify the time, and that it was normal practise for girls to remind the time to customers even 5 minutes in. I knew I wasn't going to win this argument so I let it go. I did have a really good session with a spanish girl. So overall lesson learn, there is no room for nice guys or you'll be a push over.

Something I've been meaning to ask for ages which I know is completely irrelevant but it's just bugged me.

When I went to Artemis in November the whole place was very clean & tidy and typically organised & conformative as you would expect from a German business model but while the majority of us wore burgundy Robes & matching towels there were a very small number of chaps in pale pink Robes. This despite many burgundy Robes still available.

I know this is one of the most pointless questions ever asked on this forum but does anyone know why, I'm just bizarrely so intrigued?

My last pointless question on thIs site. I promise!

Don't the Taxi drivers get a discount entry on a Sunday, like the Pensioners do?

[QUOTE=Canary;2128801]Something I've been meaning to ask for ages which I know is completely irrelevant but it's just bugged me.

When I went to Artemis in November the whole place was very clean & tidy and typically organised & conformative as you would expect from a German business model but while the majority of us wore burgundy Robes & matching towels there were a very small number of chaps in pale pink Robes. This despite many burgundy Robes still available.

I know this is one of the most pointless questions ever asked on this forum but does anyone know why, I'm just bizarrely so intrigued?

My last pointless question on thIs site. I promise![/QUOTE]Hey,

One time when I was in Brazil, I saw some guys in a terma wearing their own personal, monogrammed robes LOL! A different touch indeed. No idea about pink robes at Artemis though. Do you think maybe somebody accidentally used some bleach while doing a batch of laundry? Hehehe!

[QUOTE=TheScomp;2128735]I was in Artemis this summer and I want to share my bad experience. I have been in two other FKK in Germany without anything out of the ordinary. So I found a good looking turkish girl wearing glasses and in our chat I tell that this was my first time there. Huge mistake, we go into the room and after 5 minutes, I kid you not, she tells me -you have to finish, time is up. I tried to continue with another position and she told me that I don't get another position for a half an hour session, so she stopped the hole thing telling me that's it's, she had to go. I was shocked and speechless and threatened to call the manager, then she offered to finish me with a handjob, so I stayed -mistake number 2. Of course this couldn't work out cause she really ruined it so after a while I told her to stop, and went down to pay her. I wasn't going to make a scene, but after I paid her she went to the reception to cover her ass, told them that I couldn't cum and left laughing at me. That made me furious so I did call the manager, and it came down to a he said- she said situation. The manager took the girls position basically saying that if I stayed in the room for a "normal" period of time, there is nothing she can do but watch the cameras to verify the time, and that it was normal practise for girls to remind the time to customers even 5 minutes in. I knew I wasn't going to win this argument so I let it go. I did have a really good session with a spanish girl. So overall lesson learn, there is no room for nice guys or you'll be a push over.[/QUOTE]Artemis is well know to be a cheating club, very few german guys are going there this is a strong negative signal, everything can happen today at Shark I sessioned a girl with her period and had my condom full of blood, do you believe I was happy?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2128717]Was he doing it in German? Because if it was in German I would not have understood anything, so say what you want. During one of my early trips to Artemis, I had a female taxi driver take me there. Well she got all bent out of shape, not because I was going to the tute house, but because it was for a relatively short distance LOL! That seems to annoy German taxi drivers more than those in other countries I have been to who are happy to take your money no matter what.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I have this too, but I be sure to say nothing and once I arrive to destination, I leave with some harmful comment about the life of such driver and slam the door hard as I can and walk out after paying LOL.

Once the driver came out and try chase me into FKK, but he stopped noticing what will be the result of this as I will make big scene LOL.

As for driver in frankfurt that is, he was religious man fighting for his marriage life in new land Germany that he has living for long time though, but still holding his home value as even most of these guys live in Germany, they just live there for money and still hold their home value. Good luck Germany with such people LOL.

[QUOTE=TheScomp;2128735]I was in Artemis this summer and I want to share my bad experience. I have been in two other FKK in Germany without anything out of the ordinary. So I found a good looking turkish girl wearing glasses and in our chat I tell that this was my first time there. Huge mistake, we go into the room and after 5 minutes, I kid you not, she tells me -you have to finish, time is up. I tried to continue with another position and she told me that I don't get another position for a half an hour session, so she stopped the hole thing telling me that's it's, she had to go. I was shocked and speechless and threatened to call the manager, then she offered to finish me with a handjob, so I stayed -mistake number 2. Of course this couldn't work out cause she really ruined it so after a while I told her to stop, and went down to pay her. I wasn't going to make a scene, but after I paid her she went to the reception to cover her ass, told them that I couldn't cum and left laughing at me. That made me furious so I did call the manager, and it came down to a he said- she said situation..[/QUOTE]Artemis became even worst service club than before with CBJ, I would stay away. There are many other better FKK in Germany.

Anybody who have some news I the current Line Up since januari considering the new law of registration?

Still a lot of Girls? New ones? Old ones?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=TheScomp;2128735]I was in Artemis this summer and I want to share my bad experience. I have been in two other FKK in Germany without anything out of the ordinary. So I found a good looking turkish girl wearing glasses and in our chat I tell that this was my first time there. Huge mistake, we go into the room and after 5 minutes, I kid you not, she tells me -you have to finish, time is up. I tried to continue with another position and she told me that I don't get another position for a half an hour session, so she stopped the hole thing telling me that's it's, she had to go. I was shocked and speechless and threatened to call the manager, then she offered to finish me with a handjob, so I stayed -mistake number 2. Of course this couldn't work out cause she really ruined it so after a while I told her to stop, and went down to pay her. I wasn't going to make a scene, but after I paid her she went to the reception to cover her ass, told them that I couldn't cum and left laughing at me. That made me furious so I did call the manager, and it came down to a he said- she said situation. The manager took the girls position basically saying that if I stayed in the room for a "normal" period of time, there is nothing she can do but watch the cameras to verify the time, and that it was normal practise for girls to remind the time to customers even 5 minutes in. I knew I wasn't going to win this argument so I let it go. I did have a really good session with a spanish girl. So overall lesson learn, there is no room for nice guys or you'll be a push over.[/QUOTE]Always, calmly tell management. Some, like Palace, will do nothing because they attract mainly tourists. For good clubs, even if a girl has an excuse or deny responsibility, the manager is frequently a former WG so she knows the BS. Of course, if you are a regular at the club, they know who to believe. You can of course take that smirk off her face. Tell her you tell tell every guy at the club she talks to that she is bad. She will have no business as long as you are there. That should get her attention. She just has to lose one customer feel the sting and the guy will thank you. But don't be a total ass. The girls talk too.

Scomp,

Your experience was very, very bad with the Turkish girl with glasses. Was her name Alia? She is quite nice, has brown hair and is not very tall.

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I've recently seen it mentioned that at some Clubs Sunday's are not the best day to visit for quality & amount of ladies working. Is this true at Artemis too?

I only ask as I'm going on Sunday 4/2 although unfortunately if it is the case it's too late now anyway as I've already arranged transportation.

I always assumed Sunday's would be popular with businessman staying over in Berlin for the start of the working week, hence a good LU would be had?

Artemis is a busy club. And a big club. So you shouldn't compare it to an NRW club for example. Maybe only sharks has as many girls as Artemis, but on average I think Artemis has more. Don't forget it has monopoly in the Berlin area.

[QUOTE=Canary;2132929]I've recently seen it mentioned that at some Clubs Sunday's are not the best day to visit for quality & amount of ladies working. Is this true at Artemis too?

I only ask as I'm going on Sunday 4/2 although unfortunately if it is the case it's too late now anyway as I've already arranged transportation.

I always assumed Sunday's would be popular with businessman staying over in Berlin for the start of the working week, hence a good LU would be had?[/QUOTE]Sunday is mostly older gents during day as they get cheaper entry if I remember right.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2133006]Artemis is a busy club. And a big club. So you shouldn't compare it to an NRW club for example. Maybe only sharks has as many girls as Artemis, but on average I think Artemis has more. Don't forget it has monopoly in the Berlin area.[/QUOTE]Thanks, didn't realise that. I plan to visit Sharks later in the year.

I will report back on Artemis upon my return.

[QUOTE=Canary;2128801]Something I've been meaning to ask for ages which I know is completely irrelevant but it's just bugged me.

When I went to Artemis in November the whole place was very clean & tidy and typically organised & conformative as you would expect from a German business model but while the majority of us wore burgundy Robes & matching towels there were a very small number of chaps in pale pink Robes. This despite many burgundy Robes still available.

I know this is one of the most pointless questions ever asked on this forum but does anyone know why, I'm just bizarrely so intrigued?

My last pointless question on thIs site. I promise![/QUOTE]Nothing special really. The pink robes are old model they have gradually replaced with burgundy ones. Some pink ones remain and some customers prefer these.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2133072]Sunday is mostly older gents during day as they get cheaper entry if I remember right.[/QUOTE]For me Sunday is a bad day for most of the men, reduced LU and many mongers try to come early or after 7 Pm when the guys left.

[QUOTE=VaeVictis;2133510]Nothing special really. The pink robes are old model they have gradually replaced with burgundy ones. Some pink ones remain and some customers prefer these.[/QUOTE]It has to do with the size, almost positive.

How's the Lineup in Artemis? Is it that bad? And how much does the girls charge for BBBJ there? Is using condom required?

[QUOTE=WoodPolarBear;2135141]How's the Lineup in Artemis? Is it that bad? And how much does the girls charge for BBBJ there? Is using condom required?[/QUOTE]Was there last week, thought line-up was terrible, I'm afraid. Only a few of the regulars, about a dozen, were there. From last year I saw Julia (skinny Rom), Emily (Bulgarian, fake tits, A specialist), two of the Dominicans (funny moment: one of them crossing the bar area triumphantly with three guys in tow on her way up to a room), Spanish girl from Valencia (forgot her name), 2 German-Turkish girls and another 3 - 4 Roms. Whole line-up was made up of about 80% Romanians. At least 70% with siliconed tits. Most of the new girls were way overweight. I wouldn't dream of approaching most of these girls in the outside so why bother here? Where are the beautiful Russians, Hungarians or Romanians of few years back?

I have a feeling that the new registration law has kept a lot of regulars away. The only ones I saw that night were already living in rented apartments in town as opposed to sleeping in the club so I guess it was easier for them to give an address when registering.

BBBJ: spoke to a few of the new girls. BBBJ is totally out of question. All saying it's against the law, that they could lose their job, etc. I hooked up with one of the regulars I had sessioned a few times in the past and she agreed to it. I obviously cannot divulge her name. I would say that unless you already knew the lady from before, chances of BBBJ are pretty nil at the moment, at least until you've had time to establish a trusted relation with one of the girls.

Going back to Berlin in a few weeks, might give it another try. It was so much fun before, I had so many great sessions. It's pretty grim at the moment.

[QUOTE=Azymuth;2135355]Was there last week, thought line-up was terrible, I'm afraid. Only a few of the regulars, about a dozen, were there. From last year I saw Julia (skinny Rom), Emily (Bulgarian, fake tits, A specialist), two of the Dominicans (funny moment: one of them crossing the bar area triumphantly with three guys in tow on her way up to a room), Spanish girl from Valencia (forgot her name), 2 German-Turkish girls and another 3 - 4 Roms. Whole line-up was made up of about 80% Romanians. At least 70% with siliconed tits. Most of the new girls were way overweight. I wouldn't dream of approaching most of these girls in the outside so why bother here? Where are the beautiful Russians, Hungarians or Romanians of few years back?

I have a feeling that the new registration law has kept a lot of regulars away. The only ones I saw that night were already living in rented apartments in town as opposed to sleeping in the club so I guess it was easier for them to give an address when registering.

BBBJ: spoke to a few of the new girls. BBBJ is totally out of question. All saying it's against the law, that they could lose their job, etc. I hooked up with one of the regulars I had sessioned a few times in the past and she agreed to it. I obviously cannot divulge her name. I would say that unless you already knew the lady from before, chances of BBBJ are pretty nil at the moment, at least until you've had time to establish a trusted relation with one of the girls.

Going back to Berlin in a few weeks, might give it another try. It was so much fun before, I had so many great sessions. It's pretty grim at the moment.[/QUOTE]CBJ only, bad lineup, now FKK Artemis is must avoid club.

I mean if I end up there, I only go to room for 60 euro 30 min session only as service will be so bad.

Once upon a time not so long ago, artemis was good club.

[QUOTE=Azymuth;2135355]Was there last week, thought line-up was terrible, I'm afraid. Only a few of the regulars, about a dozen, were there. From last year I saw Julia (skinny Rom), Emily (Bulgarian, fake tits, A specialist), two of the Dominicans (funny moment: one of them crossing the bar area triumphantly with three guys in tow on her way up to a room), Spanish girl from Valencia (forgot her name), 2 German-Turkish girls and another 3 - 4 Roms. Whole line-up was made up of about 80% Romanians. At least 70% with siliconed tits. Most of the new girls were way overweight. I wouldn't dream of approaching most of these girls in the outside so why bother here? Where are the beautiful Russians, Hungarians or Romanians of few years back?

I have a feeling that the new registration law has kept a lot of regulars away. The only ones I saw that night were already living in rented apartments in town as opposed to sleeping in the club so I guess it was easier for them to give an address when registering..[/QUOTE]I'm due to visit Artemis on Sunday but your bleak report is giving me second thoughts. Already have a flight booked but it's a cheap one so I won't lose much. Have some thinking to do mow!

Was Nicole, Paige or Sidney working? (All blondes If you know them).

[QUOTE=Azymuth;2135355]Was there last week, thought line-up was terrible, I'm afraid. Only a few of the regulars, about a dozen, were there. From last year I saw Julia (skinny Rom), Emily (Bulgarian, fake tits, A specialist), two of the Dominicans (funny moment: one of them crossing the bar area triumphantly with three guys in tow on her way up to a room), Spanish girl from Valencia (forgot her name), 2 German-Turkish girls and another 3 - 4 Roms. Whole line-up was made up of about 80% Romanians. At least 70% with siliconed tits. Most of the new girls were way overweight. I wouldn't dream of approaching most of these girls in the outside so why bother here? Where are the beautiful Russians, Hungarians or Romanians of few years back?

I have a feeling that the new registration law has kept a lot of regulars away. The only ones I saw that night were already living in rented apartments in town as opposed to sleeping in the club so I guess it was easier for them to give an address when registering.

BBBJ: spoke to a few of the new girls. BBBJ is totally out of question. All saying it's against the law, that they could lose their job, etc. I hooked up with one of the regulars I had sessioned a few times in the past and she agreed to it. I obviously cannot divulge her name. I would say that unless you already knew the lady from before, chances of BBBJ are pretty nil at the moment, at least until you've had time to establish a trusted relation with one of the girls.

Going back to Berlin in a few weeks, might give it another try. It was so much fun before, I had so many great sessions. It's pretty grim at the moment.[/QUOTE]I was planning to go to Artemis on Sunday afternoon but after reading this report I'm having second thoughts even though I've already paid the airfare, albeit a very cheap fare.

I've previously enjoyed the Company of Sidney, Susie & Nicole and would like to meet an English lass called Paige but if they aren't there & the LO is so poor I might just stay at home & wave goodbye to the air fare.

Plenty of thinking between now and Sunday for me to do.

Does anyone know if a girl named Alef is still working at Artemis? She's a dark, beautiful Romanian Girl with very large breasts. Does anyone know if she is still there, and when is the best time to see her?

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Canary;2135473]I'm due to visit Artemis on Sunday but your bleak report is giving me second thoughts. Already have a flight booked but it's a cheap one so I won't lose much. Have some thinking to do mow!

Was Nicole, Paige or Sidney working? (All blondes If you know them).[/QUOTE]I don't know them.

[QUOTE=Azymuth;2135355]Was there last week, thought line-up was terrible, I'm afraid. Only a few of the regulars, about a dozen, were there. From last year I saw Julia (skinny Rom), Emily (Bulgarian, fake tits, A specialist), two of the Dominicans (funny moment: one of them crossing the bar area triumphantly with three guys in tow on her way up to a room), Spanish girl from Valencia (forgot her name), 2 German-Turkish girls and another 3 - 4 Roms. Whole line-up was made up of about 80% Romanians. At least 70% with siliconed tits. Most of the new girls were way overweight. I wouldn't dream of approaching most of these girls in the outside so why bother here? Where are the beautiful Russians, Hungarians or Romanians of few years back?

I have a feeling that the new registration law has kept a lot of regulars away. The only ones I saw that night were already living in rented apartments in town as opposed to sleeping in the club so I guess it was easier for them to give an address when registering.

BBBJ: spoke to a few of the new girls. BBBJ is totally out of question. All saying it's against the law, that they could lose their job, etc. I hooked up with one of the regulars I had sessioned a few times in the past and she agreed to it. I obviously cannot divulge her name. I would say that unless you already knew the lady from before, chances of BBBJ are pretty nil at the moment, at least until you've had time to establish a trusted relation with one of the girls.

Going back to Berlin in a few weeks, might give it another try. It was so much fun before, I had so many great sessions. It's pretty grim at the moment.[/QUOTE]On this forum we are all saying that Artemis is not worth a visit, same comments on the german forum, when it is like this better to try some escort can't be worse. The problem is not the address the problem is that when you are in the database it will be challenging to get delete and due to the fact that most of the girls are in relationship with guys being member of the HA therefore going on living in Berlin they also are aware that a future employer if any will have access to that database and clearly see that she was a prostitute what is not the best reference.

[QUOTE=GTBoy1976;2135561]Does anyone know if a girl named Alef is still working at Artemis? She's a dark, beautiful Romanian Girl with very large breasts. Does anyone know if she is still there, and when is the best time to see her? [/QUOTE]AFAIR she's still there (but I am not 100 % sure, sorry for that). Nightshift girl, starts working between 6 pm and 8 pm usually.

I like Alef.

Took her to the room once and it was like shagging a dead sheep. Never again.

Outside of the room, when she is friendly she is great fun, chatty and likes a joke. When she is in a bad mood, she is cold.

Still, lovely to look at.

Hello all,

I was in Berlin and went to artemis on a Wednesday. To my surprise it was a lingerie night so all the girls were dressed. This is good and bad. Bad because you do not know how much some breasts sag. Good because some girls have sexy outfits.

This was my first time in an FKK, but thanks to everyone here I had some idea of what to expect.

Still negotiation was not easy. When I first saw a girl I liked, I went up to her to talk. Her first response was "you want to go upstairs?" too direct. I laughed and said it'd be nice to talk for a bit more. Like the other girls who had come up to me. She seemed bored, but I was horny, so I said, okay let's go. Before we entered the room I wanted to talk about prices, but she said that we would discuss in room. Okay.

Go in room, she asks what I want. I don't like her prices so I said "let's call it quits". She gets mad. I told her "I wanted to talk before we go in, but you were in a rush to come in. Why are you mad?" she starts spouting off stupid stuff about how I'm an amateur etc. Whatever. We leave. I was worried she might make me pay, but thank god she didn't. Hot girl, but bad attitude. I wish I could remember her name so I could warn others here.

An hour later, I finally found someone else sexy from across the room. I motioned at her to come her. She motioned for me to go to her. I shook my head and waited. She came. Came up to me and grabbed my thigh and we had a nice chat. At some point she even put my hand my her breasts. That was it. We went upstairs. She knew how to treat a customer right. Spent an hour's price on her but finished in 30, but worth it. Her name was Roberta. I recommend her.

Artemis is okay. Compared to my old experience in Berlin with Kamilla Dee (rip), the service is much worse. The only thing good might be the sauna downstairs and how close it is to the s-bahn.

Beginner tips if you do go:

1) lingere night. Stand by the stairs so you can see girls undressed, or go on a better night.

2) take the s-bahn there and a cab back to save money.

3) don't pursue girls that have no interest in you. Even if she is hot. The service will not improve in the room. If a girl is chatty and flirty before the room, she will probably give decent service.

4) FKK sharks is better. A lot better.

[QUOTE=KenzoTange;2136357]Hello all,

I was in Berlin and went to artemis on a Wednesday. To my surprise it was a lingerie night so all the girls were dressed. This is good and bad. Bad because you do not know how much some breasts sag. Good because some girls have sexy outfits.

This was my first time in an FKK, but thanks to everyone here I had some idea of what to expect.

Still negotiation was not easy. When I first saw a girl I liked, I went up to her to talk. Her first response was "you want to go upstairs?" too direct. I laughed and said it'd be nice to talk for a bit more. Like the other girls who had come up to me. She seemed bored, but I was horny, so I said, okay let's go. Before we entered the room I wanted to talk about prices, but she said that we would discuss in room. Okay.

Go in room, she asks what I want. I don't like her prices so I said "let's call it quits". She gets mad. I told her "I wanted to talk before we go in, but you were in a rush to come in. Why are you mad?" she starts spouting off stupid stuff about how I'm an amateur etc. Whatever. We leave. I was worried she might make me pay, but thank god she didn't. Hot girl, but bad attitude. I wish I could remember her name so I could warn others here..[/QUOTE]Don t need the name all the girls are like this in Artemis, this club is just a real nightmare for those who like to enjoy relaxing time with beauties at a reasonable price.

I was pleasantly surprised by the LU on Sunday however there were the usual sharks which I can now easily spot and avoid like a Turkish girl (name begins with "F") who ironically hassled me last time and a Bulgarian who snapped "bullshit" when I made my excuses.

I don't mind this as I chuckle to myself that I've saved money & time on a girl who is probably crap in the room.

I had a two hour session with Sandra a Polish lady who has been there a few years. She's not everyone's choice being mid 30's & well built but I liked her, great sense of humour, lovely big natural tits. She can really deliver a good BJ & excels in oily B2B which I've found had to find at these places.

Had another two hours with a small breasted, thin German blonde who's name escapes me. Physically totally different to Sandra but even dirtier & can BJ for the the olympics. For the last hour Her friend joined us for a threesome, surprisingly good also considering she was Romanian. My experiences with Romanians are patchy so I'm always wary.

After turning down a few more Sharks I could not resist another two & a half hours with Sandra.

In all a very successful 12 hours.

My only tip I can offer to anyone who has never attended a FKK is that with any girl I've not seen before I tell that I have a rule that I only book for 30 minutes & if we're all happy I might extend. That way you won't lose much money if she is rubbish & it gives the girl an incentive to perform.

Note:

For those that like OWO some girls at Artemis will oblige & some won't, you don't have to be a regular attendee at the Club to get it. Yes they do want extra payment but the ladies I spoke to who were willing wanted an extra 40 for half an hour bookings & 30 for one hour sessions. It's all a matter of choice I suppose.

Personally I'm happy either way, the important thing for me is how good her technique is.

The negatives of Artemis is the main bar gets extremely smokey, the whirlpool is outside so can't really be used in the winter & the food is poor but the girls and sex is great which is really the purpose of going.

I will attend Artemis again this year when it's warmer as I want to experience the Club outside.

Also this year I plan to visit the famous Sharks just to compare & see if it's as good as some people say.

Sorry if the report is a bit disjointed.

[QUOTE=Canary;2137749]I was pleasantly surprised by the LU on Sunday however there were the usual sharks which I can now easily spot and avoid like a Turkish girl (name begins with "F") who ironically hassled me last time and a Bulgarian who snapped "bullshit" when I made my excuses.[/QUOTE]Funda.

[QUOTE=Canary;2137749]I had a two hour session with Sandra a Polish lady who has been there a few years. She's not everyone's choice being mid 30's & well built but I liked her, great sense of humour, lovely big natural tits.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but IMHO she's in her lower 30's. - Not my choice, but nevertheless I like her. Recommended.

[QUOTE=Canary;2137749]Had another two hours with a small breasted, thin German blonde who's name escapes me. Physically totally different to Sandra but even dirtier & can BJ for the the olympics. [/QUOTE]Difficult. Madlen? She's slim, but not thin. Sorry, no idea.

[QUOTE=Canary;2137749]Sorry if the report is a bit disjointed.[/QUOTE]Not at all. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

Hi gents!

Does anybody knows the name of a girl that usually hangs around the stairs or just inside the main lounge? She is a petite maybe 1.60, looks like she could be of Turkish origin, big boobs could be silicone but they kind of look natural! She has been working for at least a few years maybe longer. Thankful for answers.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2137972]Hi gents!

Does anybody knows the name of a girl that usually hangs around the stairs or just inside the main lounge? She is a petite maybe 1.60, looks like she could be of Turkish origin, big boobs could be silicone but they kind of look natural! She has been working for at least a few years maybe longer. Thankful for answers.[/QUOTE]Sounds like the hottie Shayen.

[QUOTE=Canary;2137749]My only tip I can offer to anyone who has never attended a FKK is that with any girl I've not seen before I tell that I have a rule that I only book for 30 minutes & if we're all happy I might extend. That way you won't lose much money if she is rubbish & it gives the girl an incentive to perform.
[/QUOTE]Great report. Great advice. Thank you!

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;2138167]Sounds like the hottie Shayen.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Thanks for your reply, let's assume Shayen is the girl I'm looking for. Can anyone comment on her service level in the room? I always seem to run into her at the wrong time for me (in-between sessions) otherwise I would have taken her to the room myself!

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2138443]Hi,

Thanks for your reply, let's assume Shayen is the girl I'm looking for. Can anyone comment on her service level in the room? I always seem to run into her at the wrong time for me (in-between sessions) otherwise I would have taken her to the room myself![/QUOTE]Chemistry between people is the key for great session, I never care about the reports from other just go with her and you will see, so many are so positively reporting about Mandy, Electra, Brenda. From Shark they are just average for me in the room and I will never had another sessions with them. Better you make your own opinion.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2125809] Maybe there's another choice in case you're a big roller and you've got a girl willing to accompany you. If you're one of these lucky guys: feel free to ask at the front desk and have your wallet ready.[/QUOTE]Is this really a possibility?

I am off to Berlin in a few days and wondering whether to visit Artemis again since the new law seems to be enforced. But, I have had fun here before. And it seems OWO is possible but hit and miss. I shall see. It's been a year since I last went to Artemis (was before July 1). Any girls who work there now who are recommended? Usually I go for slim, gazelle types but am open to other types too if the service level is good. Is it still 90 for entry and 60/30? What's the food like now? I remember last time I went the line up was full of a majority of girls heavily tattooed and many with fake boobs which I hate but so many girls that you could still find enough to your taste. I'm there Wed to Friday so which of these nights is likely to have a better day and night lineup? I've recently been mongering in Hamburg and could do Harmony again but Berlin as a city is awesome in itself.

Does anyone know if the German-born Turkish girl Scarlett (ex-Sakura Stella) still works at Artemis?

My other option is to cancel my Berlin trip and go to another city for FKK. What's Sharks like nowadays for line-up? Or, I could explore other Berlin options for pay-for-play. Kamilla Dee is shut but which other of the famous brothels remain open? Or I could try a partyreff for the first time.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2139918]Is it still 90 for entry and 60/30?[/QUOTE]Entrance fee 80 Euro. 60430 as usual.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2139918]What's the food like now?[/QUOTE]Nothing changed.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2139918]I remember last time I went the line up was full of a majority of girls heavily tattooed and many with fake boobs which I hate but so many girls that you could still find enough to your taste.[/QUOTE]Nothing changed. Less girls compared to 2017, alloverall.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2139918]I'm there Wed to Friday so which of these nights is likely to have a better day and night lineup?[/QUOTE]Thursday. Usually no crowd, but a good night lineup.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2139918]My other option is to cancel my Berlin trip and go to another city for FKK.[/QUOTE]Cancel Berlin. Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2140000]
Cancel Berlin. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]I agree and now he has already 4 cents and trending to be richer.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2140000]Cancel Berlin. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]When was your last visit to Artemis?

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2139918]I am off to Berlin in a few days and wondering whether to visit Artemis again since the new law seems to be enforced. But, I have had fun here before. And it seems OWO is possible but hit and miss. I shall see. It's been a year since I last went to Artemis (was before July 1). Any girls who work there now who are recommended? Usually I go for slim, gazelle types but am open to other types too if the service level is good. Is it still 90 for entry and 60/30? What's the food like now? I remember last time I went the line up was full of a majority of girls heavily tattooed and many with fake boobs which I hate but so many girls that you could still find enough to your taste. I'm there Wed to Friday so which of these nights is likely to have a better day and night lineup? I've recently been mongering in Hamburg and could do Harmony again but Berlin as a city is awesome in itself.

Does anyone know if the German-born Turkish girl Scarlett (ex-Sakura Stella) still works at Artemis?

My other option is to cancel my Berlin trip and go to another city for FKK. What's Sharks like nowadays for line-up? Or, I could explore other Berlin options for pay-for-play. Kamilla Dee is shut but which other of the famous brothels remain open? Or I could try a partyreff for the first time.[/QUOTE]Can only recommend you to cancel the trip to Berlin and to visit Hessen or NRW, rent a car so you will get so many options not only 1 club like in Berlin, if you are not happy with Artemis very few other options in Berlin.

Any Asian girls at Artemis at the moment?

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2140115]Any Asian girls at Artemis at the moment?[/QUOTE]AFAIR: No. If, only a few.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2140051]When was your last visit to Artemis?[/QUOTE]Next-to-last weekend. Why do you want wo know?

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2140115]Any Asian girls at Artemis at the moment?[/QUOTE]There were a few Asian girls around on the 4th Feb but not many!

I like Asian ladies but the few that were around didn't appeal to me so it was a blonde day for me LOL!

[QUOTE=Canary;2140279]There were a few Asian girls around on the 4th Feb but not many!

I like Asian ladies but the few that were around didn't appeal to me so it was a blonde day for me LOL![/QUOTE]In the recent years very few real Asian girls around, probably close to 0 Chinese girl, they don't need anymore to be prostitute they have so many other solutions to make their living, in China there is a strong excess of man versus woman due to natality control from the government for so many years, the girls have the choice and also Chinese woman are not lazy like Roumania girls who prefer spreading out the legs, sucking dicks that to build their own life in a complete other direction. It is just a problem of culture.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2140220]Next-to-last weekend. Why do you want wo know?[/QUOTE]Just wondering why you give someone the advice to not go, and assumed you maybe had not been there recently.

I was there some Days ago for two Days in a row and had a good time. Nice line up and good service.

A lot of girls and everything was on the menu.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2140378]Just wondering why you give someone the advice to not go, and assumed you maybe had not been there recently. I was there some Days ago for two Days in a row and had a good time. Nice line up and good service. A lot of girls and everything was on the menu.[/QUOTE]I see. Thanks for clearifying. - Once upon a time A was a place worth the longest journey. Nowadays it isn't. That's all.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2140378]Just wondering why you give someone the advice to not go, and assumed you maybe had not been there recently.

I was there some Days ago for two Days in a row and had a good time. Nice line up and good service.

A lot of girls and everything was on the menu.[/QUOTE]Just because all the senior mongers mostly German we are sharing every week about the clubs to go or not to go and Artemis is really the one not to go, probably you saw there few senior Caucasian guys, now nice to hear that you had great time there, may be the things are getting better.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2140220]AFAIR: No. If, only a few.[/QUOTE]A couple of years ago there were Akira and Suna / Suma do you know if they are still around?

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2140472]A couple of years ago there were Akira and Suna / Suma do you know if they are still around?[/QUOTE]Akira is still there. Not sure where Suna is. There's a new girl tetsuo.

Spent this weekend in Berlin and enjoyed Artemis during 2 visits. Friday night after midnight was too crowded with customers: hard to find a place to sit at all and main room so smoky. Still had fun.

Came back Saturday around 16:00: so much better. Number of available girls was better than Friday night, quality too and the number of customers only 10%-20% of Friday night. Much less smoke and more room to sit and also possibilities for relaxed chat-up and teasing. My taste is big silicone boobs and long nails, big lips and Artemis delivered: Jenna was there with her 1500 CC, huge filled lips, butt implants, tiny petite body. Perfect service. I also tried a Blonde 700 CC Hungarian with even bigger inflated sexy lips. So sexy. There was also a few more 500 CC, 600 CC girls and many girls with clearly filled lips.

Service was 60 and the extra cost for OWO and CIM was 50.

I think best time for Artemis is 16-20.

[QUOTE=Wiild;2140858]Spent this weekend in Berlin and enjoyed Artemis during 2 visits. Friday night after midnight was too crowded with customers: hard to find a place to sit at all and main room so smoky. Still had fun.

Came back Saturday around 16:00: so much better. Number of available girls was better than Friday night, quality too and the number of customers only 10%-20% of Friday night. Much less smoke and more room to sit and also possibilities for relaxed chat-up and teasing. My taste is big silicone boobs and long nails, big lips and Artemis delivered: Jenna was there with her 1500 CC, huge filled lips, butt implants, tiny petite body. Perfect service. I also tried a Blonde 700 CC Hungarian with even bigger inflated sexy lips. So sexy. There was also a few more 500 CC, 600 CC girls and many girls with clearly filled lips.

Service was 60 and the extra cost for OWO and CIM was 50.

I think best time for Artemis is 16-20.[/QUOTE]Artemis is the temple for sili, botox. It is not my cup of tea all, just because I will never session those kind of girls but for sure you had a great time.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2140472]A couple of years ago there were Akira and Suna / Suma do you know if they are still around?[/QUOTE]Suna was spotted there in Nov. or Dec. According to a local I talked to at least. And he was not very frequently there, so she should still be around. But then again I only saw her on a bit under half my visits anyway, so she never worked all the time. Vacations and days or weeks off. So consider her a bonus if she is there.

[QUOTE=Wiild;2140858]I also tried a Blonde 700 CC Hungarian with even bigger inflated sexy lips. So sexy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report!

How was her service?

Remember her name?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2140975]Suna was spotted there in Nov. or Dec. According to a local I talked to at least. And he was not very frequently there, so she should still be around. But then again I only saw her on a bit under half my visits anyway, so she never worked all the time. Vacations and days or weeks off. So consider her a bonus if she is there.[/QUOTE]Probably doing some escort job too.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2140975]Suna was spotted there in Nov. or Dec. According to a local I talked to at least. And he was not very frequently there, so she should still be around. But then again I only saw her on a bit under half my visits anyway, so she never worked all the time. Vacations and days or weeks off. So consider her a bonus if she is there.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply Pistons, much appreciated! If you guys also like Thai food Suna recommended me restaurant Papaya on Kantstrasse and I can confirm it was very authentic and spicy Thai food! Best in Berlin she quoted.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2141983]Thanks for your report!

How was her service?

Remember her name?[/QUOTE]Sorry Pinball, I don't. For me it was a great experience, but I am really a huge lip freak haha and I paid 50 extra for OWO and CIM so that probably increased the quality: my guess is that you experienced artemis visitors would call her a shark with questionable service as I got that vibe from her. Kinda pushy.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2142085]If you guys also like Thai food Suna recommended me restaurant Papaya on Kantstrasse and I can confirm it was very authentic and spicy Thai food! Best in Berlin she quoted..[/QUOTE]Haha, that's such a great tip! Is it walkable distance from A?

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2142341]Haha, that's such a great tip! Is it walkable distance from A?[/QUOTE]Haha I wish, no unfortunately not walking distance but if the food sucks at A then a taxi round trip would be less then €20.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2142341]Haha, that's such a great tip! Is it walkable distance from A?[/QUOTE]Of course. It takes 30 minutes approx one way.

In case you're feeling uncomfortable with walking: You may take S-Bahn from Westkreuz station, every train eastbound, leave the train at the next stop Charlottenburg station. Short trip ticket 1,70 Euro. There's absolutely no need to take a cab.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2142341]Haha, that's such a great tip! Is it walkable distance from A?[/QUOTE]Google map will answer all your questions.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2140000]Entrance fee 80 Euro. 60430 as usual.

Nothing changed.

Nothing changed. Less girls compared to 2017, alloverall.

Thursday. Usually no crowd, but a good night lineup.

Cancel Berlin. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]I took your advice and did going to Atmos in Hamburg instead! I do miss the party atmosphere in Artemis and will try to visit it in warmer weather when the outside jacuzzi and pool are open. My main qualm is too many girls with silicone tits (hate that!) and too many girls with tattoos. And too many girls over 30 it seems.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2143757]I took your advice and did going to Atmos in Hamburg instead! I do miss the party atmosphere in Artemis and will try to visit it in warmer weather when the outside jacuzzi and pool are open. My main qualm is too many girls with silicone tits (hate that!) and too many girls with tattoos. And too many girls over 30 it seems.[/QUOTE]You talking Artemis right about too many girls with tattoos and silicone tit? Not Atmos?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2144366]You talking Artemis right about too many girls with tattoos and silicone tit? Not Atmos?[/QUOTE]You know very well that there are many girls with silicone and there are also many girls that stays natural at Artemis. At Atmos you are lucky if there are 25-30 girls working at the same time, and the quality are very questionable.

Going to any FKK and not finding ink and silicon is surely highly unlikely? There are girls with neither but they are few and far between.

I was at Artemis last weekend. Good fun, some old favourites and some newbies. Seemed quiet though, not the massed ranks of Italians but there were quite a few Israelis. There is always change.

The big news is. New lockers, big and small. Took about 4 days to replace the old key-locked lockers with new, shiny magnetic FOB (on a watch strap) lockers.

Hello to everybody,

I'm new here and I have couple of questions:

1. Is Artemis full with clients all the time? I don't like crowded places as I get Panic attacks and when they hit me hard I don't feel very well (I'm like that since 15 and now I'm 29 years old).

2. Are there any Bulgarian girls as well? I had a BG GF for like 4 years (we split up though) and she was fire in the bed and as personality as well. I'd like to feel a Bulgarian pussy again. LOL.

3. I heard for the new law so which extras can I purchase when I go with a girl in a room? Especially anal. I get rejected most of the times because my dick is big and even for 2 x the price they don't want to do it.

Thanks for your answers from now.

Kind regards.

[QUOTE=Traveller63;2144986]The big news is. New lockers, big and small. Took about 4 days to replace the old key-locked lockers with new, shiny magnetic FOB (on a watch strap) lockers.[/QUOTE]The safes or the clothes lockers? Can you choose big or small).

[QUOTE=Traveller63;2144986]Going to any FKK and not finding ink and silicon is surely highly unlikely? There are girls with neither but they are few and far between.

I was at Artemis last weekend. Good fun, some old favourites and some newbies. Seemed quiet though, not the massed ranks of Italians but there were quite a few Israelis. There is always change.

The big news is. New lockers, big and small. Took about 4 days to replace the old key-locked lockers with new, shiny magnetic FOB (on a watch strap) lockers.[/QUOTE]How was the BBBJ situation for you at Artemis?

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2144573]You know very well that there are many girls with silicone and there are also many girls that stays natural at Artemis. At Atmos you are lucky if there are 25-30 girls working at the same time, and the quality are very questionable.[/QUOTE]Yeah at least Artemis there usually are minimum 50 girls.

[QUOTE=KingOfTheKill;2145099]Is Artemis full with clients all the time?[/QUOTE]Avoid the big fairs like IFA, ITB, Green Week, Fruit Logistica. Avoid weekend nights.

[QUOTE=KingOfTheKill;2145099]Are there any Bulgarian girls as well?[/QUOTE]Yes.

[QUOTE=KingOfTheKill;2145099]I heard for the new law so which extras can I purchase when I go with a girl in a room? Especially anal.[/QUOTE]If you prefer anal, just ask the girl in advance. She will refuse or not. It depends. Have your wallet ready.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2145407]Avoid the big fairs like IFA, ITB, Green Week, Fruit Logistica. Avoid weekend nights.

Yes.

If you prefer anal, just ask the girl in advance. She will refuse or not. It depends. Have your wallet ready.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the answer!

What about on the week, is it full every time or it depends?

[QUOTE=KingOfTheKill;2145494]Thanks for the answer!

What about on the week, is it full every time or it depends?[/QUOTE]No its not full every night, best time to visit IMO is between 16-23.

Wednesdays are lingerie day, so if you want to see fully nude bodies avoid Wednesday.

[QUOTE=KingOfTheKill;2145494]Thanks for the answer!

What about on the week, is it full every time or it depends?[/QUOTE]Avoid Friday & Saturday.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;2145851]Avoid Friday & Saturday.[/QUOTE]No Friday and Saturdays? Why avoid?

[QUOTE=KingOfTheKill;2145494]Thanks for the answer!

What about on the week, is it full every time or it depends?[/QUOTE]I've been on a Sunday & Monday, both days were not overcrowded at all.

In fact the girls were complaining of a lack of "game to hunt" hence the customers received a lot of attention.

[QUOTE=KingOfTheKill;2145494]Thanks for the answer![/QUOTE]You're welcome.

[QUOTE=KingOfTheKill;2145494]What about on the week, is it full every time or it depends?[/QUOTE]There's no common rule. Remember Forrest Gump: Artemis is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get. Usually it's more calm in the afternoon and more busy during the night. Monday is a calm day, Tuesday probably the calmest day alloverall. IMHO you've got the biggest and best choice of girls between 6 pm and 12 pm on every day.

And remember: It always depends from your own expectations. What do YOU want to get?

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2146119]And remember: It always depends from your own expectations. What do YOU want to get?[/QUOTE]So the reports of the quality of selection at Artemis are not really true?

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2145407]Avoid the big fairs like IFA, ITB, Green Week, Fruit Logistica. Avoid weekend nights.

Yes.

If you prefer anal, just ask the girl in advance. She will refuse or not. It depends. Have your wallet ready.[/QUOTE]Depends if you're a day, evening- or night guy.

I have been there during IFA, Green Week and Fruit Logistica and since I like to hang around from early day I can feel a bit satisfied at 7 o'clock when the participants from fairs arrive.

Just to sit and enjoy the circus. There will always be a chance of a final pop.

[QUOTE=Canary;2146066]I've been on a Sunday & Monday, both days were not overcrowded at all.

In fact the girls were complaining of a lack of "game to hunt" hence the customers received a lot of attention.[/QUOTE]Obviously the club is on a strong downtrend so the customers are considering 2 times before to pay the exorbitant entry price. Many senior German mongers have blacklisted the club in the recent months, fortunately they have a big Turkish ground and tourists who are less demanding.

[QUOTE=Antex;2146131]Depends if you're a day, evening- or night guy.

I have been there during IFA, Green Week and Fruit Logistica and since I like to hang around from early day I can feel a bit satisfied at 7 o'clock when the participants from fairs arrive.

Just to sit and enjoy the circus. There will always be a chance of a final pop.[/QUOTE]I visit every year at IFA and use exactly the same approach!

Don't forget, at those event, the lineup will be very large.

Note: Starting from March 1 there's an extra 5 Euro deposit for the key.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2147253]Note: Starting from March 1 there's an extra 5 Euro deposit for the key.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for the information.

I'm nearly sorry to ask questions without dropping a single report on the board, but it's so damn cold.

What if I accidentally lose the key? And what if I want to leave the house for a few hours, can I take the key with me or do I have to exchange it for the 5 bucks or do I only get the deposit back in a small white envelope when I finally check out? Do the girls like the new keys and lockers?

Keep grinning.

Why the hell is it so damn cold? Are you feeling me social bot?

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2147388]Many thanks for the information.

I'm nearly sorry to ask questions without dropping a single report on the board, but it's so damn cold.

What if I accidentally lose the key? And what if I want to leave the house for a few hours, can I take the key with me or do I have to exchange it for the 5 bucks or do I only get the deposit back in a small white envelope when I finally check out? Do the girls like the new keys and lockers?

Keep grinning.

Why the hell is it so damn cold? Are you feeling me social bot?[/QUOTE]It is better that paying 250 euro at Sharks for a lost key. Relax.

More alarming is the fact that Artemis management is becoming a bit more loose with the girls they let work there. I remember stricter days. Some girls get really nasty when you refuse to room with them and curse you in their language. Personally, I spent the last few visits in Dusseldorf are Clubs and was pleasantly surprised with the quality. But back to Artemis later today, hoping they start teaching some girls how to behave.

It's been 9 years since my last Artemis visit, and now it's time again for a Friday visit. Which girls are a must to avoid, and which girls are recommended? Very kind if someone can help. I promise to write a review of my experience later.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2147550]It is better that paying 250 euro at Sharks for a lost key. Relax.

More alarming is the fact that Artemis management is becoming a bit more loose with the girls they let work there. I remember stricter days. Some girls get really nasty when you refuse to room with them and curse you in their language. Personally, I spent the last few visits in Dusseldorf are Clubs and was pleasantly surprised with the quality. But back to Artemis later today, hoping they start teaching some girls how to behave.[/QUOTE]It's true but yesterday I had a fantastic experience with the only Brazilian girl in Artemis, a typical sexy mulata with generous and hard butt and juicy tits with pointy nipples. But the main point is something I never experienced before. At a certain point, when I was licking her nipples, belly and around the pussy (I never lick the pussy itself) she started masturbating and became hotter and hotter. It was like in the porno movies. She moistened her fingers, rubbed her clitoris, moistened again, rubbed again, forth and back, moaning like hell. You could see she was in an ecstasy and finally cummed.

Never happened to me before just unforgettable.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2147550]It is better that paying 250 euro at Sharks for a lost key. Relax.

More alarming is the fact that Artemis management is becoming a bit more loose with the girls they let work there. I remember stricter days. Some girls get really nasty when you refuse to room with them and curse you in their language. Personally, I spent the last few visits in Dusseldorf are Clubs and was pleasantly surprised with the quality. But back to Artemis later today, hoping they start teaching some girls how to behave.[/QUOTE]I guess they do not want police raid like few years back, that apparently started by a girl informing false fictional stories to the police because she was not happy with her lover boys and also in part the club.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2147550]It is better that paying 250 euro at Sharks for a lost key. Relax.[/QUOTE]Yes.

Probably. Yes.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2147550]More alarming is the fact that Artemis management is becoming a bit more loose with the girls they let work there. I remember stricter days. Some girls get really nasty when you refuse to room with them and curse on you in their language..[/QUOTE]Judging the work of management is quite impressive. From a customer perspective I guess they try their best under the 2018 circumstances. If the show is still running every night, then it is a fact too.

The nasty ones are not even a handful. Just talk trash back and focus on the loving being. Should be no real problem. Especially for men who are used to the 'intestinal-city' and don't believe the hype. Maybe a few Artemis pro's are more good in this game of freedom.

If you visit watch out for the lousy acting deaf pickpocket and show him some love.

The birds are twittering really loud this morning that spring is coming soon. Can you hear it programs?

[QUOTE=TuxyTux;2147708]Which girls are a must to avoid, and which girls are recommended?[/QUOTE]There's no rule. Maybe I'd name ten girls to avoid, another guy would call up exactly these ten girls as great performers. It's a deal between human beings, no one is like the other. Listen to your heart, your dick and your brain, if possible.

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2147728]You could see she was in an ecstasy and finally cummed.[/QUOTE]It's not late to call her up for the Academy Awards, isn't it?

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2147728]It's true but yesterday I had a fantastic experience with the only Brazilian girl in Artemis, a typical sexy mulata with generous and hard butt and juicy tits with pointy nipples.[/QUOTE]Congrats! At the end of the day, that's what really matters: a fantastic experience.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2148032]... Listen to your heart, your dick and your brain....[/QUOTE]I tried that once. All I heard was a lot of shouting and disagreement.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2148032]It's not late to call her up for the Academy Awards, isn't it?[/QUOTE]Hahaha Pharisaer. But it really didn't look like she was acting. You would call it a wishful thinking but I do believe that was real.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2148032]There's no rule. Maybe I'd name ten girls to avoid, another guy would call up exactly these ten girls as great performers. It's a deal between human beings, no one is like the other. Listen to your heart, your dick and your brain, if possible.

It's not late to call her up for the Academy Awards, isn't it?

Congrats! At the end of the day, that's what really matters: a fantastic experience.[/QUOTE]Okay enjoy this cheating club, it is better you stay there so more space in the good clubs for me.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2148036]I tried that once. All I heard was a lot of shouting and disagreement.[/QUOTE]Couldn't out it better myself!

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2148036]I tried that once. All I heard was a lot of shouting and disagreement.[/QUOTE]So which one of them is your dicktator at the moment? For me, well. There is a reason I call him the dicktator.

A visit done last Tuesday.

General impression: The LU was mixed. You find slims, chubbies, fit bodies, blondes, brunettes, tall, average, real and silicon boobs. It was pretty varied. But from the line up you'll find 40-50% of the ladies with a pleasant attitude. The key is for you to take your time in looking around, chatting and choosing. Patience is key if you want to make a good decision. I take around an hour to choose every lady, and I mostly end up with good choices and no regrets.

Here are my experiences:

Malvina. East European (forgot the country).

So my first try was with Malvina. She was a tall, white brunette that had a nice attitude and good reactions in bed. She allowed me to kiss and lick every inch of her body (I make sure to enjoy every lady I choose, in foreplay and not just intercourse). When licking and sucking on her nipples, she was clearly loose, letting me enjoy her while also reacting very genuinely. Moaning as her eyes closed and wanting more. This doesn't always happen. I've been with ladies who show no reaction, are cold or appear bored and waiting when I suck and lick on the sensitive areas of their body. This created the proper mood to start banging her, and I did that in three positions. She had a pleasant attitude overall. Half hour well spent. 9/10.

Samantha. Hungary.

I spotted Samantha in the gym. She had a killer body, 6-packs and well tanned. Relatively short and blonde. She was also relatively old. In her late 30's. I watched her closely as she did sit-ups, push ups and worked out tirelessly until she was heavily sweating. I appreciated that hard work this lady was putting on her body and made my decision to enjoy that body and bang the sh&t out of it.

And so I approached her later on at the bar, had a small chat, a few laughs and agreed for half an hour right after I finish my drink.

The session with her was very pleasant. She had a relatively smaller body so she was easy to carry and move and hold during intercourse. She pleasantly welcomed the fact that I was enjoying her body smoothly. We had a missionary fuck and a doggystyle fuck. She was tight and her moans were deep and mature. Another pleasant experience. 9/10.

Raluna. Germany.

Raluna had a very cute face (looks very young, early or mid 20's) and is less than chubby but surely not skinny. She was German and was very playful. I always see her socializing with her fellow coworkers and ladies around. She seems to be at ease in harmony with a good group of ladies. But this did not reflect badly on her attitude: she was not arrogant or rude to customers. So I thought I'd give her a try hoping she'd also be pleasant in her attitude with me. I was very right. For example: she made sure to check whether I'm comfortable on the bed, that the pillow was good, you can notice that she does care about her customer and is pretty attentive. She proceeded with the BJ (with no condom) . Stroking my flamingo slowly and gently. Again showing to be attentive. Intercourse proceeded doggystyle then missionary. Slowly and smoothly. Prolonging the pleasure of the experience. Another 9/10.

Yolanda. Jamaica.

Met Yolanda during dinner time. She was the only black lady around. Relatively tall with a fit body. She was talkative too.

After a few drinks I spotted her again and we had the last session for the night.

Into the room, you notice she is a dirty talker. "f*ck my black pussy* type of talker. After a good and deep blowjob (with condom this time) , I take her doggystyle slowly but deeply with good and loud reactions from her side. I decided to move and bang her while she's standing. She welcomed the change. And standing we do it until I came. A pleasant lady with another pleasant experience of 8/10.

I also had one more lady but honestly forgot her name. Wasn't fully sober LOL.

Overall, I made sure to spend my whole day there and enjoy my time. I had a brief sleep in the underground pool section, pampered myself with a Turkish massage and enjoyed lunch and dinner. I even did some weights training. In between, I had the sessions above. This is how I enjoy Artemis every time; making the best of everything and every moment. It was a great experience: came in at 5 pm, left at 4 am No complaints. Would repeat that visit whenever I pass by Berlin.

P. S: Never try the Turkish ladies. They're ugly in both face and attitude.

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2147728]It's true but yesterday I had a fantastic experience with the only Brazilian girl in Artemis, a typical sexy mulata with generous and hard butt and juicy tits with pointy nipples. But the main point is something I never experienced before. At a certain point, when I was licking her nipples, belly and around the pussy (I never lick the pussy itself) she started masturbating and became hotter and hotter. It was like in the porno movies. She moistened her fingers, rubbed her clitoris, moistened again, rubbed again, forth and back, moaning like hell. You could see she was in an ecstasy and finally cummed.

Never happened to me before just unforgettable.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, Artemis has many wonderful girls with perfect attitude. Just a few that are a bit aggressive. Saturday was great for me and no negative interactions. However, one bad interaction puts a dent on the day. Some Turkish German girls are actually very good in the room and some not, just like any other nationality. I heard quite a few complaints by regular clients that some girls are just obnoxious, in behaviour mostly cause the LU is not bad at all.

Lets focus on the bright side, it is a great escape from the cold, no place I'd rather be on Berlin when it is so cold.

Hey, excellent report but have a few questions: how much did you pay per session. Were the blowjobs covered or uncovered? Did the girls French kiss you? Thanks.

P.S. Some Turkish girls are fantastic and some of the most memorable sessions have been with them.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2148216]A visit done last Tuesday.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the informative report.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2148216]Yolanda. Jamaica.[/QUOTE]Jamaica? In former times, she had another story, but who cares. - Was upstairs with her a few times five years ago or so. Recommended, indeed, if you're in tall, slim, black ladies.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2148400]Hey, excellent report but have a few questions: how much did you pay per session. Were the blowjobs covered or uncovered? Did the girls French kiss you? Thanks.

P.S. Some Turkish girls are fantastic and some of the most memorable sessions have been with them.[/QUOTE]Are you really sure they are Turkish most probably from Albania.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2148400]Hey, excellent report but have a few questions: how much did you pay per session. Were the blowjobs covered or uncovered? Did the girls French kiss you? Thanks.

P.S. Some Turkish girls are fantastic and some of the most memorable sessions have been with them.[/QUOTE]1) Two blowjobs were uncovered, another two were covered.

2) No French kissing took place.

3) The regular 60 euros per session, except for the blowjobs: I gave the lady an extra $20 euros for a bare blowjob and it worked.

Regarding the Turkish girls, their slutty and vulgar attitude in public pushes me away. There might be a few hidden gems tho, but I never noticed them.

Was visiting Berlin last weekend and met a girl in another venue who told me she had been working at Artemis for a while. Mentioned one pertinent detail: girls who get mentioned doing BBBJ will lose their job if management finds out. She doesn't know if this policy is still as strict as a few weeks ago, but still. It should be considered when writing a report here.

[QUOTE=TeFab456;2149787]Was visiting Berlin last weekend and met a girl in another venue who told me she had been working at Artemis for a while. Mentioned one pertinent detail: girls who get mentioned doing BBBJ will lose their job if management finds out. She doesn't know if this policy is still as strict as a few weeks ago, but still. It should be considered when writing a report here.[/QUOTE]I think this is an excellent approach!

If naming all girls giving BBBJ results in all of the getting thrown out from Artemis, we haven't got a situation anyone want to have.

Am in Berlin!! Am tired but wondering if it is worth going to Artemis during the night from say 11 pm to 5 am. What's the number of women like after midnight and the men to women ratio? The other option is to just wait till tomorrow and go in the after noon.

[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2150700]I think this is an excellent approach!

If naming all girls giving BBBJ results in all of the getting thrown out from Artemis, we haven't got a situation anyone want to have.[/QUOTE]I don't believe one word about it, it is the interest of all the clubs to let the girls do BBBJ so the customers will come back it is a strong selling point.

[QUOTE=TeFab456;2149787]Was visiting Berlin last weekend and met a girl in another venue who told me she had been working at Artemis for a while. Mentioned one pertinent detail: girls who get mentioned doing BBBJ will lose their job if management finds out. She doesn't know if this policy is still as strict as a few weeks ago, but still. It should be considered when writing a report here.[/QUOTE]I disagree. How come a paragraph on a discussion forum from an anonymous individual become evidence? And evidence strong enough to be used against a sex worker?

I don't think this is how things go in law-enforced Germany. So what if I write a report mentioning names of 20 ladies and claim that they all give BBJ?

Doesn't make sense to me and I don't see anyone losing a job because of an unverified post claim.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2150879]Am in Berlin!! Am tired but wondering if it is worth going to Artemis during the night from say 11 pm to 5 am. What's the number of women like after midnight and the men to women ratio? The other option is to just wait till tomorrow and go in the after noon.[/QUOTE]I would say, yes, definitely go. Artemis has almost full LU at night. Some girls only come around 8-9 PM. Men / Women Ratio is from the better ratios in Germany. Make sure you eat tho because kitchen closes around 2 AM I think. Have fun.

[QUOTE=TeFab456;2149787]Was visiting Berlin last weekend and met a girl in another venue who told me she had been working at Artemis for a while. Mentioned one pertinent detail: girls who get mentioned doing BBBJ will lose their job if management finds out. She doesn't know if this policy is still as strict as a few weeks ago, but still. It should be considered when writing a report here.[/QUOTE]In general, keep your room benefits private, girls don't provide all guests with the same experience in the room, some get more and some get less. It isn't nice to give such details here on the front page of the newspaper. General information and extreme girls to be careful from is fair game, IMO. Extreme girls, meaning girls that are really terrible in behavior and unfair with the guests. Keeping BJ experiences to yourselves and to private messages seems to be the approach the benefit all the most. This is only my opinion and not everybody must accept it, so please no attacks. Good weekend to all.

[QUOTE=TeFab456;2149787]Was visiting Berlin last weekend and met a girl in another venue who told me she had been working at Artemis for a while. Mentioned one pertinent detail: girls who get mentioned doing BBBJ will lose their job if management finds out. She doesn't know if this policy is still as strict as a few weeks ago, but still. It should be considered when writing a report here.[/QUOTE]Really. Surprise surprise.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2147253]Note: Starting from March 1 there's an extra 5 Euro deposit for the key.[/QUOTE]Please note: deposit increased, that is to say doubled: 10 Euro.

Bunny Party on 28 March. To whom it may concern.

Friends,

Can any of you advice about the women to men ratio:

- On Wednesdays, the lingerie day:

- On other non-weekend days until 7 pm:

BTW, is lingerie mandatory on Wednesday or can you also see topless girls? Or are.

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2153918]BTW, is lingerie mandatory on Wednesday or can you also see topless girls? Or are.[/QUOTE]Yes. It's mandatory.

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2153918]Friends,

BTW, is lingerie mandatory on Wednesday or can you also see topless girls? Or are.[/QUOTE]It's mandatory, but if you positions you at the stairs you often can see the girls topless when they come walking down the stairs after sessions.

I was there Friday night. I have been here a few times 9 years ago, and have been to Hassen area also. I remember seeing natural beauties with good humor, nice conversation, and willingness to please in the room. But now it's like a totally different story. What happened to natural tits? GFE? Girl next door look? All I saw is a bunch of over-inflated bimbos who looked hideous, and the usual Romanian / Turkish sharks. Good thing I met an Italian mamasita, which saved my day. And to top it all of the food is mediocre.

It's not a total waste of time I guess if you're in the city and want some standard suck & fuck action, but don't waste your time and money for a planned trip here.

[QUOTE=TuxyTux;2154617]I was there Friday night. I have been here a few times 9 years ago, and have been to Hassen area also. I remember seeing natural beauties with good humor, nice conversation, and willingness to please in the room. But now it's like a totally different story. What happened to natural tits? GFE? Girl next door look? All I saw is a bunch of over-inflated bimbos who looked hideous, and the usual Romanian / Turkish sharks. Good thing I met an Italian mamasita, which saved my day. And to top it all of the food is mediocre.

It's not a total waste of time I guess if you're in the city and want some standard suck & fuck action, but don't waste your time and money for a planned trip here.[/QUOTE]The line up quality dropped from 2014 and 2015 I confirmed that quality of line up did not improved, so I stopped going to artemis.

Before and till 2014, Artemis had diverse line up with few natural young stunners girls but now. Plastic old tattoo girls. I mean why? It used to be such a good club with good stunners to be found.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2154426]It's mandatory, but if you positions you at the stairs you often can see the girls topless when they come walking down the stairs after sessions.[/QUOTE]Mandatory is subject to definition in the FKK realm, everything is nothing more than a mere guideline or suggestions at best. Many girls are naked fully or just throw on some piece of non existent fabric. Also, some girls change what they wear through out the night. Also, the can start with and decide to be naked.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2150913]I disagree. How come a paragraph on a discussion forum from an anonymous individual become evidence? And evidence strong enough to be used against a sex worker?

I don't think this is how things go in law-enforced Germany. So what if I write a report mentioning names of 20 ladies and claim that they all give BBJ?

Doesn't make sense to me and I don't see anyone losing a job because of an unverified post claim.[/QUOTE]Artemis management is super strict. It doesn't take much with respect to client / girl problems to kick a girl out. When it comes to suspicions about breaking the BBBJ law, there is a lot of at stake, so it definitely cause serious problems for the girl and the way out is short from that point. And clients normally complain anonymously to avoid inconveniences.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2154799]Mandatory is subject to definition in the FKK realm, everything is nothing more than a mere guideline or suggestions at best. Many girls are naked fully or just throw on some piece of non existent fabric. Also, some girls change what they wear through out the night. Also, the can start with and decide to be naked.[/QUOTE]Lingerie is mandatory on Wednesday. Without exception.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2155019]Lingerie is mandatory on Wednesday. Without exception.[/QUOTE]My years of Artemis experience disagree with you. Mandatory or not, many girl are fully nude. Anyway, whomever wants can attend Wednesday and share their experience, viel Spaß.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2155523]My years of Artemis experience disagree with you.[/QUOTE]Tu as raison et moi j'ai la paix.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2155552]Tu as raison et moi j'ai la paix.[/QUOTE]OK, I will experience by myself. However a question for those with experience on Wednesdays: Is it a good day? I mean, is the women: men ration more favorable? And, is the attitude of the girls better on Wednesdays?

It's a few years since I last visited Artemis. Does Fatima still attend?

Did not see Fatima since 1 or 2 years.

[QUOTE=Frozty;2155841]It's a few years since I last visited Artemis. Does Fatima still attend?[/QUOTE]Quitted Artemis in November 2016. Don't cry for her, she isn't worth your tears.

Hey people,

To be honest I was disappointed from my visit in Artemis.

I was there on Monday so there we're around 40/50 girls, most of them s bit crunchy.

They approached me very fast as I was a fish in a tank and thei the cat.

I was with a new girl Angelica, skinny big breasted Bulgarian and to be honest, no satisfaction at all.

And there weren't a lot of people in the sauna either, I thought it will be something like GT Wien or Fun Palast even FKK Sharks, but no. For me that was kinda cool because I don't like crowded places but how the f*ck do they make a living there, LOL.

From what I saw there (I was from 22:00 till 03:00 there) not more than 30 clients.

Most of the girls looked disappointed.

Don't know.

Girls we're beautiful but a lot of fake titted girls there, I'm a guy who likes the natural breasts.

Overall the place is nice, beautiful and big, park place is there too. The personal are highly adorable, even the maids there.

But no go for me.

I have returned to Artemis after the disappointing visit last year, where I actually had two good sessions. They have improved the lockers, which can now be opened with electronic tag, so no more keys. Because it was freezing outside the whole action happened in the bar and wellness area. Overall wellness facilities are below the standards of the Frankfurt big clubs. The bar area was really smoky to the point that your eyes burned a bit, so I had to escape downstairs into the wellness area when I couldn't take it anymore.

Food is terrible at Artemis, so I had dinner at my hotel before going to the club.

Girls approached me frequently, but they were all very polite and they could take a no without problems. Sunday is a quiet day at Artemis, but late at night a big group of Japanese came in and the girls were looking at them with big dollar signs in their eyes. I was very tired from my journey, so I didn't have a lot of energies for many sessions.

Chloe. De: Blonde, tall and used to work at Globe (Zurich), tatoo 'la vida loca' on her tummy. Very sweet and sexy girl. Provided light kissing, CBJ and it was just a pleasure to touch her body and to hear her moaning during sex. She also looks straight into your eyes when you pound her in mish and this is always something that makes me cum in no time! I've had two sessions with her (2 X 30 min = 120 E).

There weren't other girls that tempted me to the point to session with them, so I left at 23 after almost 4 hours in the club. All in all I don't think I would return to this club. It is just not good enough and it survives just because it is the only one in Berlin.

Rock.

A couple of weeks back I was passing by Berlin, so decided for a stop and visit to Artemis.

I arrived around 9 pm, and sat behind the bar with a beer to get a good look at the lineup. Was approached quite a few times, but none too aggressively. The lineup was not bad, quite many good lookers.

After a while I set my eyes on a blond hanging around the end of the lounge tables across the bar. Just looking at her I was quite sure she must be Russian. Kind of classical Russian blond beauty with a nice smile, mid-20's, silly cones and a nice ass. She reminded me of another Russian girl I had some serious fun with a couple of years. I moved around to the other side of the bar and caught her eye. Funnily she didn't come over to me, but waved me to her. I walked over and said Hello,. Sure enough, she was indeed Russian. She and her brunette friend (also Russian. Just over 30 I guess) starting persuading me for a threesome. I'm pretty reluctant, since my past experience with such a setup is very much hit and miss. But even though I was mostly interested in the blond, in the end I agreed and we went upstairs. On the way up, I chatted a bit with the blond, and she was quite friendly and not too business like.

Once in the room they of course started to upsell a lesbian show, which I quickly declined. But more interestingly, they also offered OWO at a 50 premium each which was great, then I didn't have to ask. They also offered CIM at another 50 each. Which could have been the start of an interesting philosophical discussion, since I would have been curious to know how exactly they would accomplish CIM on both of them simultaneously. But I gracefully declined.

After we had agreed on details, they got started on the BJ. And I have to give to them, they absolutely nailed the two-girl porn-style BJ in different poses. Great looks, great feel. Top service. I then got on my back, got covered and the brunette mounted up. It was pretty much a ride of 3-4 inches, no home run. But she was pretty tight so it was OK. After 5 minutes, she dismonted, change of cover and then the blond mounted up. Same thing, 3-4 inches tight fit, but felt good, and the brunette was busy stroke my balls same time. After another 5 minutes or so, she dismounted and cover came off. I got on my knees, and the brunette resumed BJ, while the blond got on her back playing with herself eyeballing me. Very hot. I then got on my back, and then blond got up and sat on my face, continuing to play with herself. That was brilliant, and the brunette BJ'd me near to the finishing line, and finished me HJ still with the blond on my face. Ace.

Damage total was 220, but will definitely repeat the blond if I get a chance.

I got back at the bar, for another beer and recover. I thought about repeating the Russian blond, but I couldn't find her. So after a while I got talking to a German girl. MILF material, pale skin, small tits and waist, pear-shaped ass somewhat wide. Kind of sexy. I asked her to go to the upstairs kino and we got a bed at the back. I really wanted to have a good look at that ass while banging her, so got her doggy style facing the entrance. Didn't really care about the people walking in and out, so just went on banging her in doggy pose. She took it like a pro for 20 minutes or more, no complaints at all going all in, and I finished there. Good service.

So back at the bar again, another couple of beers and then I thought to finish the evening in another direction, so went to a room with a black Jamaican girl. Good OWO and OK service, but probably one beer too far gone, so couldn't finish in time and didn't really feel like extending.

After this I decided too call it a night and went back to my hotel. Good evening.

(I didn't want mention any names here due to the OWO services).

[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2160156]A couple of weeks back I was passing by Berlin, so decided for a stop and visit to Artemis.

I arrived around 9 pm, and sat behind the bar with a beer to get a good look at the lineup. Was approached quite a few times, but none too aggressively. The lineup was not bad, quite many good lookers.

After a while I set my eyes on a blond hanging around the end of the lounge tables across the bar. Just looking at her I was quite sure she must be Russian. Kind of classical Russian blond beauty with a nice smile, mid-20's, silly cones and a nice ass. She reminded me of another Russian girl I had some serious fun with a couple of years. I moved around to the other side of the bar and caught her eye. Funnily she didn't come over to me, but waved me to her. I walked over and said Hello,. Sure enough, she was indeed Russian. She and her brunette friend (also Russian. Just over 30 I guess) starting persuading me for a threesome. I'm pretty reluctant, since my past experience with such a setup is very much hit and miss. But even though I was mostly interested in the blond, in the end I agreed and we went upstairs. On the way up, I chatted a bit with the blond, and she was quite friendly and not too business like..[/QUOTE]That cum in two mouths thing is a pretty common unsell in my experience, but with two pairs of lips on your shaft I have never been able to decline. First time, quite a few years back in my first duo, I argued no, that is OK, I will cum in one mouth. But it's like a package deal. Either CIM at 50 each or no CIM. So I caved.

Next time, didn't argue as much and of course caved. Last week in London -- two Romanian girls again -- and it was "cum in two mouths" for 50 each. I didn't even bother to push back. I just let it fly. Soon enough they both had some of my load in their mouths, so it worked out somehow! I was too spent to notice and frankly worth every penny. Some of it is expectations. Since it was "normal" now to me I was not put off at all.

Anyone successfully negotiated a CIM duo, but only pay for one CIM?

[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2160156] OWO at a 50 premium each which was great, then I didn't have to ask. They also offered CIM at another 50 each. [/QUOTE]So BBBJ 50 EUR extra. Wonder what the club policy is about that.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2160273]So BBBJ 50 EUR extra. Wonder what the club policy is about that.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure it's not allowed, stupid new law and all. But seems to be the going rate. I guess the girls don't mind. Just another upsell.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2160273]So BBBJ 50 EUR extra. Wonder what the club policy is about that.[/QUOTE]Sounds like capy negotiated a great deal!

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2160273]So BBBJ 50 EUR extra. Wonder what the club policy is about that.[/QUOTE]Go for one hour session or pay 20 euro more is usual fee, but some monger get ripped off for more.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2160748]Go for one hour session or pay 20 euro more is usual fee, but some monger get ripped off for more.[/QUOTE]So you're saying 50 is a rip-off then? Is the 1 hour / 20 euro BBBJ deal a common thing, or do you need to haggle to get that every time? Anyone else care to contribute what deals they're seeing being the norm?

[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2161389]So you're saying 50 is a rip-off then? Is the 1 hour / 20 euro BBBJ deal a common thing, or do you need to haggle to get that every time? Anyone else care to contribute what deals they're seeing being the norm?[/QUOTE]Well do the math, 60 euro 30 min is club rate right? It was for BBBJ, fuck, DATY among other things even DFK if you were lucky though DFK was mostly extra or longer session. So how much of that 60 euro is BBBJ? I would say 20 or 30 euro and normally it is given for like 80 euro if not 90 euro now per 30 min including DFK if it is 90 euro.

However, going one hour can get you all, but it depend on girls, some are more sharky than others.

I would skip Artemis now as it is too messed up.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2151065]I would say, yes, definitely go. Artemis has almost full LU at night. Some girls only come around 8-9 PM. Men / Women Ratio is from the better ratios in Germany. Make sure you eat tho because kitchen closes around 2 AM I think. Have fun.[/QUOTE]Friends,

How are Sundays at Artemis? Crowded? How is the ratio?

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2161472]Friends, How are Sundays at Artemis? Crowded? How is the ratio?[/QUOTE]Usually not crowded at all, ratio okay. Lineup weaker in comparison with Fridays and Saturdays. Enjoy your stay.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2161459]Well do the math, 60 euro 30 min is club rate right? It was for BBBJ, fuck, DATY among other things even DFK if you were lucky though DFK was mostly extra or longer session. So how much of that 60 euro is BBBJ? I would say 20 or 30 euro and normally it is given for like 80 euro if not 90 euro now per 30 min including DFK if it is 90 euro.

However, going one hour can get you all, but it depend on girls, some are more sharky than others.

I would skip Artemis now as it is too messed up.[/QUOTE]Don't disagree with the maths or the reasonable sense of it, its evident the girls are being opportunistic given that there's a law against it now. By which you're essentially paying them to break the law and possibly house rules, which merit a higher asking price. And Artemis girls tend to be opportunistic if anyone.

Kinda sucks to pay a premium for something that was free and the norm just a little while ago.

Unfortunately Artemis is the place I mostly pass by, I would much rather hang out in the abundance of great FKKs in NRW.

[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2161846]Don't disagree with the maths or the reasonable sense of it, its evident the girls are being opportunistic given that there's a law against it now. By which you're essentially paying them to break the law and possibly house rules, which merit a higher asking price. And Artemis girls tend to be opportunistic if anyone.

Kinda sucks to pay a premium for something that was free and the norm just a little while ago.

Unfortunately Artemis is the place I mostly pass by, I would much rather hang out in the abundance of great FKKs in NRW.[/QUOTE]Let go strictly to realistic things, BBBJ is there is most of the clubs with most of the girls without any extra costs, all the rest is just phantasm.

[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2161846]Don't disagree with the maths or the reasonable sense of it, its evident the girls are being opportunistic given that there's a law against it now. By which you're essentially paying them to break the law and possibly house rules, which merit a higher asking price. And Artemis girls tend to be opportunistic if anyone.

Kinda sucks to pay a premium for something that was free and the norm just a little while ago.

Unfortunately Artemis is the place I mostly pass by, I would much rather hang out in the abundance of great FKKs in NRW.[/QUOTE]Yeah I feel you, but I keep it cool and simple, I pay up a bit, but if they ask too much, then I go for 60 euro 30 min session, I do her doggy hardcore and out of the room, you know quick bang and dump her.

It is up to her to be reasonable with me or all she get is 60 euro session.

Greetings all!

Planning to revisit Artemis the next couple of weeks and are hoping to see these girls again. I think both of them left for vacation (and in Beas case also a boobjob) just before Christmas. Diana said she wanted to see how the new taxes would affect her income, before she decided to continue working in Germany (was talking of maybe trying Belgium / Triers).

Both have great personalities and better GFE-performances then most WG: s in this place and I was hoping someone had some info whether they are back in Berlin or not?

[QUOTE=Tegelhof;2164055]Both have great personalities and better GFE-performances then most WG: s in this place and I was hoping someone had some info whether they are back in Berlin or not?[/QUOTE]I can't remember having seen Diana and Bea in 2018. Note: my memory for names and faces isn't quite good. - Maybe it's a good idea giving the front desk a call.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2164606]I can't remember having seen Diana and Bea in 2018. Note: my memory for names and faces isn't quite good. - Maybe it's a good idea giving the front desk a call.[/QUOTE]OK, thanks! Will do.

[QUOTE=Tegelhof;2164055]Greetings all!

Planning to revisit Artemis the next couple of weeks and are hoping to see these girls again. I think both of them left for vacation (and in Beas case also a boobjob) just before Christmas. Diana said she wanted to see how the new taxes would affect her income, before she decided to continue working in Germany (was talking of maybe trying Belgium / Triers).

Both have great personalities and better GFE-performances then most WG: s in this place and I was hoping someone had some info whether they are back in Berlin or not?[/QUOTE]I think Tries is also in Germany, just one advice never believe what a girl in a club is saying, they are just prostitutes able to open legs and mouth for 50 euros.

Anyone seen Kisha lately?

Brief report about the 'Bunnyparty' or Hschenparty (Germ):

Wednesday, March 28, I was in Berlin merely for a stopover and decided to check out the Hschenparty. I won two tickets for drinks and got another two tickets from another guest (driving). OK, it was not on a weekend but even for an event day during the week the club was really slow (BTW, Germany played soccer vs Brazil the day before). It improved a bit in the evening but not significantly, so it was far away from a party. The LU was average. I went with Samantha and Elise. New to me was the last one: dark, curly hair, approx 1.60 m tall (w / o heels), curvy figure, smoker, hangs out at the bar with the side facing the sliding door. Both experiences were ok but I wouldn't come back just for them.

Artemis is an option. If the weather is really bad in Berlin and someone is looking for a workout in the gym, good wellness area, some sort of food, Sky TV with a great soccer game, and very few female attractions.

P.S. : One WG told me that she asked a supervisor because of her missing lingerie for that Wednesday, and that was not a big deal. Hence, lingerie is obviously not mandatory (not a surprise to me).

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2165215]Anyone seen Kisha lately?[/QUOTE]Yes. (Ten characters needed.).

Can't wait to be there next week.

[QUOTE=TheCanadian;2165601]Brief report about the 'Bunnyparty' or Hschenparty (Germ):

P.S. : One WG told me that she asked a supervisor because of her missing lingerie for that Wednesday, and that was not a big deal. Hence, lingerie is obviously not mandatory (not a surprise to me).[/QUOTE]TheCanadian,

Did you see on Wednesday many topless girls? I am asking since I am arriving in Berlin on Wednesday and would prefer spending my money only on the most attractive days, when all these gorgeous girls are topless.

Hi guys,

Any one seen this beauty lately?

Thanks.

Hello San Pedro,

I was also at the bunny party and I saw the whole night not a single girl out on the floor who was topless, except one and that was at about 4 am.

If you like to take a look at all the boobs in the house, don't go on a dessous-day because all the ladies wearing lingerie.

(Beside some exceptions for a few moments).

BTW, I liked the party. Good organized, good staff, well day.

I was in Berlin last Wednesday and decided to call into Artemis. The weather was fine and warm so I thought the outdoor area would be open. It was not. There was a notice to say that the area was closed from December. I looked around, there was a cordon around the pool, and weeds were growing from between the floor slabs. The area had a run down appearance. Very dissapointing. Pherhaps they are waiting for a spring clean. There was enough girls and enough of them were of interest to me. I met two girls from Chekoslovakia and one of them caught me at the ideal time in the Kino. An excellent session followed, for 60 e. Two other similar sessions folowed. It is unfortunate that I cannot remember their names. Around 17.00 hrs the bar filled up with girls. The line up was quite good. Artemis is still a good place to pick up girls.

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2167062]TheCanadian,

Did you see on Wednesday many topless girls? I am asking since I am arriving in Berlin on Wednesday and would prefer spending my money only on the most attractive days, when all these gorgeous girls are topless.[/QUOTE]Except dessous day, the girls are not topless but fully naked.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;2167734]I met two girls from Chekoslovakia and one of them caught me at the ideal time in the Kino. An excellent session followed, for 60 e. Two other similar sessions folowed. It is unfortunate that I cannot remember their names. [/QUOTE]The first one blondish, maybe 5'7 or so, small natural tits, the other one dark, curly hair, maybe 5'5, a good handful of breast?

[QUOTE=Blover34;2167211]Hi guys,

Any one seen this beauty lately?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Evan, black hair, slim, tall green blue eyes?

She's need a way for a couple of weeks. Guess she isn't back from her Easter break.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;2167734]I was in Berlin last Wednesday and decided to call into Artemis. The weather was fine and warm so I thought the outdoor area would be open. It was not. There was a notice to say that the area was closed from December. I looked around, there was a cordon around the pool, and weeds were growing from between the floor slabs. The area had a run down appearance. Very dissapointing. Pherhaps they are waiting for a spring clean. There was enough girls and enough of them were of interest to me. I met two girls from Chekoslovakia and one of them caught me at the ideal time in the Kino. An excellent session followed, for 60 e. Two other similar sessions folowed. It is unfortunate that I cannot remember their names. Around 17.00 hrs the bar filled up with girls. The line up was quite good. Artemis is still a good place to pick up girls.[/QUOTE]Outdoor is already open. You are lucky with the 60 euro sessions, girls ask for 100 for 30 minutes. Crazy.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2168118]The first one blondish, maybe 5'7 or so, small natural tits, the other one dark, curly hair, maybe 5'5, a good handful of breast?[/QUOTE]One girl was about 1800 tall and slim and good looking. The other smaller about 1600 tall, slim and good looking. At first they offered to go with me as a pair, but I declined. The smaller one had black hair and was the one I was most interested in. The taller one had brown hair. The smaller one is the one who got me in the Kino, later. We went to the room at the back of the Kino. I said 60 e and she agreed to this. It was all done with condoms and I had no problem with this.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2168118]The first one blondish, maybe 5'7 or so, small natural tits, the other one dark, curly hair, maybe 5'5, a good handful of breast?[/QUOTE]One girl was about 1800 tall and slim and good looking. The other smaller about 1600 tall, slim and good looking. At first they offered to go with me as a pair, but I declined. The smaller one had black hair and was the one I was most interested in. The taller one had brown hair. The smaller one is the one who got me in the Kino, later. We went to the room at the back of the Kino. I said 60 e and she agreed to this. It was all done with condoms and I had no problem with this.

Maybe I got it.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;2168921]One girl was about 1800 tall and slim and good looking. The taller one had brown hair. [/QUOTE]Brown hair or dark blondish, who knows. - Ivana.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;2168921]The other smaller about 1600 tall, slim and good looking. The smaller one had black hair and was the one I was most interested in. The smaller one is the one who got me in the Kino, later. We went to the room at the back of the Kino. I said 60 e and she agreed to this. It was all done with condoms and I had no problem with this.[/QUOTE]Mercedes.

Hello guys,

I was at Artemis 1 days ago (night of the 19th -20th of April) and had a great session with an amazing girl.

Light dark skin, long curly dark blond hair, she is from Eritrea, 22 yo, living in Dusseldorf I think. I cannot record the name she gave me, it sounded more from Eastern Europe.

She told me she was there for 2 weeks.

I am wondering if I could offer her to do some escorting with me. I should have asked her for her contact, but this idea came to me afterwards.

Anyone recognising her from my description above and would know how to contact her?

Thanks in advance for you answers guys.

[QUOTE=Nyco13;2170007]I am wondering if I could offer her to do some escorting with me. I should have asked her for her contact, but this idea came to me afterwards.[/QUOTE]DO NOT DISCUSS an issue like that in public. Maybe she will be banned from the house as a result.

[QUOTE=Nyco13;2170007]Hello guys,

I was at Artemis 1 days ago (night of the 19th -20th of April) and had a great session with an amazing girl.

Light dark skin, long curly dark blond hair, she is from Eritrea, 22 yo, living in Dusseldorf I think. I cannot record the name she gave me, it sounded more from Eastern Europe.

She told me she was there for 2 weeks.

I am wondering if I could offer her to do some escorting with me. I should have asked her for her contact, but this idea came to me afterwards.

Anyone recognising her from my description above and would know how to contact her?

Thanks in advance for you answers guys.[/QUOTE]The question is not, if or if not (someone, women or men, would ever get any problems meeting women working in different clubs, privately for escorting, because E. G. The women are not employed and are free in their decisions. This is really nothing to discuss here! The question is, as for heaven's sake, why you would think, that someone would give private contact data of women to someone unknown (you), asking on a public internet forum. You always have to ask the women yourself, if they would give you their contact details! That was really a strange question, which I really don't understand you asked. Just visit again and ask her! Most women won't give their private contact details, and that for at very good reason. To many strange men. Clubs are a very safe place.

[QUOTE=BunnyLover;2170342]The question is not, if or if not (someone, women or men, would ever get any problems meeting women working in different clubs, privately for escorting, because E. G. The women are not employed and are free in their decisions. This is really nothing to discuss here! The question is, as for heaven's sake, why you would think, that someone would give private contact data of women to someone unknown (you), asking on a public internet forum. You always have to ask the women yourself, if they would give you their contact details! That was really a strange question, which I really don't understand you asked. Just visit again and ask her! Most women won't give their private contact details, and that for at very good reason. To many strange men. Clubs are a very safe place.[/QUOTE]Thanks Phariser and BunnyLover for your answer.

At Phariser: I did not see the issue of raising this topic in public as she said she was here only for 2 additional weeks and I guess she is working in some other places when she is not here.

At BunnyLover: I do understand your comment. But I was in Berlin only for one day for my work; living in France, it would be quite expensive (and time consuming) to go back there without being sure to find her just to ask if she would be willing to do it, considering she might answer no. So I have just sent a bottle to the sea. If someone recognize her or is going to Artemis in the following weeks: "Light dark skin, long curly dark blond hair, slim and about 160-165 cm, medium / small natural perfect boobs she is from Eritrea, 22 yo, living in Dusseldorf I think", just let me know and I would be very happy to send you a private message in which I would give you some personnel contact data to give her.

Thanks a lot guys, not that I really think that it's going to work, but at least I gave it a try I would have regretted it if I did not.

Yes this one, if she's the one with silicone then it's her for sure. Wanted to visit Berlin but I have to know she's there. What a beauty OMG.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2168133]Evan, black hair, slim, tall green blue eyes?

She's need a way for a couple of weeks. Guess she isn't back from her Easter break.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HDN2015;2166936]Can't wait to be there next week.[/QUOTE]I was there last night, most of the German women left the business a few of them (around 5/8) are still in the Club. Some women I met in other German clubs came in Art and the prices are still the same.

The LU was fair but without the German women it is different.

[QUOTE=Nyco13;2170478]At Phariser: I did not see the issue of raising this topic in public as she said she was here only for 2 additional weeks and I guess she is working in some other places when she is not here.[/QUOTE]What did I tell you? What are you doing instead? Stupid boy. Sorry for that.

Note: Artemis' management is checking boards like that. Mr. BunnyLovers first post as a reaction of your question and my answer? Suspicious.

Been to this place a few times over the years and time I contributed. Below are my general impressions of the place, information for first timers and short reviews of the girls I saw.

Short version: worth it if you're not bothered about having a basic service from a choice of lots of great looking girls.

I went on a Tuesday evening, week before last.

The place.

80 entry fee which allows you access all day; you're given a wristband and keyless FOB for a locker. With the girls, it's 60 per half hour (120 for one hour). Some girls charge extra on top for OWO, kissing, reverse O, reverse anal, A levels etc.

Well run, clean and a number of staff around who keep it that way. Their website has details of what's available on site.

The restaurant is more like a small canteen. The food is OK. Nothing special, nothing terrible. It's the one place where girls won't proposition you.

Breakfast is 11 am to 3 pm and dinner is from 6 pm to 2 pm (I think). Both are all you can eat for no extra charge. Soft drinks are also free. Alcohol starts at 10 for 400 ML of Carlsberg up to 2000 for champagne.

Main bar on the first floor is where 95% of the girls are. It's a smoking area.

The place is quiet from 11 am to 2 pm. Fairly relaxed till about 6-7 pm. Friday and Saturday nights are the worst for overcrowding (even though there are lots of girls). Even Wednesday night is quite busy. Mondays and Tuesdays are generally the most chilled days.

S bahn station using S78 Westcruz is less than a five minute walk away. At night, the car park has lots of taxis in waiting.

Two cash machines near the changing rooms for when you run out of money.

The girls.

10-20 girls from 11 am to 2 pm. From then, more girls come out up to 8 pm approx. I find the best looking girls come out from 7 pm onwards, though still plenty of lookers before then.

In terms of looks, I'd say 10% great and the remainder split evenly between average and good looking. You get girl next door types, models, and porn star types. Lots of girls with great boob jobs and great bodies. Most are Eastern European.

For first timers.

If a girl asks if this is your first time (as I am an Indian), say no. Whilst not all girls will do this, some girls will be more pushy and / or upsell if they think you're inexperienced.

Artemis is generally a place where men keep to themselves (except those there with friends). Conversation (if any) will most likely come from other lone punters.

Some girls will approach you. Some do it once, others will do it time and again. Typically the better looking ones will sit by the bar looking bored and you'll have to make the approach. Be confident and friendly, don't be an idiot, and you'll be fine.

Don't feel rushed or pressured into going with a girl. You have the luxury of time and choice.

In the room, don't expect a GFE or PSE. The service is pretty much a routine from almost all girls (that I've seen). 60 for half an hour is the 'standard' service I. E. Covered oral and sex. No reverse O, no OWO, no fingering and no kissing etc. You want more, you'll have to pay more.

Regarding the time, a 30 minute service equals cumming once (and twice for a 60 minute session). NB. When I say 30 minutes, I mean that's the maximum time you'll get; the session is usually over as soon as you cum.

Reviews of the girls I saw.

Mariela. Germany, 23,5' 5", slim and curvy figure, natural medium sized boobs, London blonde / light brown hair.

Pretty girl next door type. Oral was good, not amazing. No deep throat or ball licking. Sex was good with her on top and doggy style. Pleasant girl with a decent service.

Mika. Croatia, 24,5' 6" ish, slim figure but still with a round enough backside, small boobs, long blonde hair.

I approached her at the bar. Stunning looking girl, the atypical Eastern European model type. Oral was good even without deepthroat or ball licking. Sex was also good with her pussy tight. More business like attitude in the room which is what I expected. Would see her again just for the looks.

Shirley. Moldova, 24,5' 5", slim and curvy, medium-large enhanced boobs, long black hair.

Looks like a curvier Miranda Kerr from a certain angle. Fantastic fake boobs. Good oral, deep but not all the way and some gentle ball licking. Sex was also good and she looked great in reverse cowgirl. Friendly yet reserved girl and the closest I came to getting a GFE. Saw her twice.

Julia. Bulgaria, mid to late 20's (medium height, voluptuous figure, medium sized boobs, big frizzy black hair.

Flirty and vivacious personality. Has a sexy gypsy girl look. Oral was really good but still no deepthroat. OWO and CIM offered for an extra 40 which I accepted. Decent session, though in hindsight not one I'm fussed about repeating.

Shireen. Germany, 34, looks like a slimmer version of the pornstar Shyla Stylez, tattoos all down her back and legs.

I love the pornstar look but less keen on tattoos. But I went for her anyway. Fairly raunchy in the room with good oral, no deepthroat, and good sex. It's a bit fake but I didn't care. Closest I got to having a PSE.

Esther. Germany, 24,5' 3", slim and petite with medium sized boobs, long brown hair.

Pretty girl who seems friendly enough. Service was rushed throughout. Immediately wanted to start with oral. Wanted to move onto sex after a minute of oral. Less than 10 minutes in she was asking me to cum. I faked an orgasm in doggystyle and ended it. Been around long enough to know a lost cause.

Julia. Romania, 30 but looks several years younger, 5' 3", slim and petite with small boobs, long blonde hair.

Flirty and extroverted. Decent service in terms of oral and sex. But she can't keep still which I found off putting. Always stopping and changing what she was doing. Fun for the right guy but not for me.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2170709]Stupid boy.[/QUOTE]In my opinion: another guy who has fell in love.

Hey everyone,

I'm planning to enjoy my first FKK experience in Artemis next week. I've been reading you guys' reports for a few days, so thanks for all the info! Do you guys know if we can watch football (soccer) games there? How's the LU these days? Also, did the dust settle on BBBJ?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Loggy;2173421]Hey everyone,

I'm planning to enjoy my first FKK experience in Artemis next week. I've been reading you guys' reports for a few days, so thanks for all the info! Do you guys know if we can watch football (soccer) games there? How's the LU these days? Also, did the dust settle on BBBJ?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]They will show football in the wellness area downstairs if you ask them to.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2173569]They will show football in the wellness area downstairs if you ask them to.[/QUOTE]Only games involving German teams, otherwise super tiny chance.

[QUOTE=Blover34;2170484]Yes this one, if she's the one with silicone then it's her for sure. Wanted to visit Berlin but I have to know she's there. What a beauty OMG.[/QUOTE]She is definitely a beauty and also has a great attitude as compared to many Artemis girls. I don't remember the service anymore as I was with her last a few years ago, but I am sure that she is great. She will probably be coming back soon as most girls are returning now.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2170709]What did I tell you? What are you doing instead? Stupid boy. Sorry for that.

Note: Artemis' management is checking boards like that. Mr. BunnyLovers first post as a reaction of your question and my answer? Suspicious.[/QUOTE]Oh men, get off that three you went on. The guy wants to write and if the moderator didn't delete it, it is legit, so relax. This is an information forum, a blog of sorts where people can exchange whatever information that pleases them as long as it is legal and with in forum guidelines or rules. So, sit back on your little chair and don't call grown ups stupid boys, you are impertinent and rude. Your posting preferences are your own and not ours. Keep it that way. Insults are not welcome here.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2174272]Your posting preferences are your own and not ours. Keep it that way. Insults are not welcome here.[/QUOTE]Tu as raison et moi j'ai la paix. - Don't worry. I won't bother you anymore.

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2174406]Tu as raison et moi j'ai la paix. - Don't worry. I won't bother you anymore.[/QUOTE]I'm not worried at all, but minimum respect is to he expected.

I spent my first three nights at Artemis. First night I was a bit apprehensive, it's hard to get into the groove when it's set up like that but I had 4 sessions. All with BBBJ for extra ranging from 20-50. Didn't argue or negotiate. They'd ask nicely to change positions and subtly start saying oh I want you to cum inside me or change to doggy when they want to rush but it was done in an ok way that didn't bother me.

Second night repeated with one and 2 new girls. Same story and overall all were good. I had a Turkish girl and she was fun and wild.

Third night was tonight and 2 new and one repeat. Also a new Turkish girl and she was great too. 2 BBBJ for 50 and one for 30.

The repeats started to allow kissing with no upsell.

Overall at first the mechanical aspect bothered me and I didn't enjoy my first night but I think it's just as much my fault because I wasn't at ease yet.

I won't name names because of the BBBJ stuff but overall the few German ones that were there had the best attitude. Sweet and giggly. The Turkish ones that I went with were cool too and fun, but I saw some outside hanging with groups of guys and being a bit obnoxious.

Facility is well run although guys showering keep taking the wrong robes when they finish which is gross to wear another guy's robe.

Food sucks. Only ate the vegetables and butter sticks.

All the action is in the main bar, there's no point checking the other areas.

I'm returning to Artemis in two weeks & I doubt much will have changed since I last visited in February although I gather the Lockers are no longer key locked?

My main question is whether the outside area (weather permitting) is likely to be open as I've never experienced this despite this being my third visit?

Anyone there on 21st who would like to meet up for a drink please let me know.

[QUOTE=Nyco13;2170478]Thanks Phariser and BunnyLover for your answer.

At Phariser: I did not see the issue of raising this topic in public as she said she was here only for 2 additional weeks and I guess she is working in some other places when she is not here.

At BunnyLover: I do understand your comment. But I was in Berlin only for one day for my work; living in France, it would be quite expensive (and time consuming) to go back there without being sure to find her just to ask if she would be willing to do it, considering she might answer no. So I have just sent a bottle to the sea. If someone recognize her or is going to Artemis in the following weeks: "Light dark skin, long curly dark blond hair, slim and about 160-165 cm, medium / small natural perfect boobs she is from Eritrea, 22 yo, living in Dusseldorf I think", just let me know and I would be very happy to send you a private message in which I would give you some personnel contact data to give her.

Thanks a lot guys, not that I really think that it's going to work, but at least I gave it a try I would have regretted it if I did not.[/QUOTE]Hi,

There all, so I have no visited an FKK since 2009. I was in Artemis last month and I am a little bit confused. There is a new rule where girls cannot give a blowjob without a condom. If it is illegal it then don't do it or don't go to the room with a client who wants it. I understand that the new rule says the guy needs to pay the 50 K and the girl is unpunished, so why does the guy pay extra if he takes the risk? Even if he doesn't take the risk, he should not pay extra, IMO. Let say that an extra is in order, why is it 50 euro. Can't it be reasonable? That leads me to my point, in Artemis, two girls (two dark short girls, one is called heaven or angel or something and has a pretty face with fake boobs and then her not pretty friend with big and very red lipps) offered me or tried to force me into the room for 300 hundred each for one hour including BBBJ. From what I am reading here, that is not so normal. I think that this is outrageous. In my next visits, I might as well go to an apartment or something more private if that is the case. Can any of the guys here shed some light on this? Thanks.

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[QUOTE=Canary;2175790]I'm returning to Artemis in two weeks & I doubt much will have changed since I last visited in February although I gather the Lockers are no longer key locked?

My main question is whether the outside area (weather permitting) is likely to be open as I've never experienced this despite this being my third visit?

Anyone there on 21st who would like to meet up for a drink please let me know.[/QUOTE]It is already open. Locker are with electronic chips, which is an improvement. However, you must leave a 10 euro key deposit in addition to the 80 euro entry.

[QUOTE=TheGreenArrow;2176072]Hi,

There all, so I have no visited an FKK since 2009. I was in Artemis last month and I am a little bit confused. There is a new rule where girls cannot give a blowjob without a condom. If it is illegal it then don't do it or don't go to the room with a client who wants it. I understand that the new rule says the guy needs to pay the 50 K and the girl is unpunished, so why does the guy pay extra if he takes the risk? Even if he doesn't take the risk, he should not pay extra, IMO. Let say that an extra is in order, why is it 50 euro. Can't it be reasonable? That leads me to my point, in Artemis, two girls (two dark short girls, one is called heaven or angel or something and has a pretty face with fake boobs and then her not pretty friend with big and very red lipps) offered me or tried to force me into the room for 300 hundred each for one hour including BBBJ. From what I am reading here, that is not so normal. I think that this is outrageous. In my next visits, I might as well go to an apartment or something more private if that is the case. Can any of the guys here shed some light on this? Thanks.[/QUOTE]BBBJ is illegal in Germany now. So, if you want it you enter an illegal scene. The girl can ask anything she wants as it is illegal. If you get caught doing so, you will pay a huge penalty. Other clubs send girls away if they are reported giving BBBJ or asking money for it. The last one is the reason why clients report to the club management.

The two girls that wanted to rip you off is quite common. Never go with two girls if you don't know at least one of them. Two girls might also do the following: offer you a threesome for half an hour for 120 euro. That is a normal price. But if you kiss one of them and she then kisses the other girl you end up paying 100 euro extra (50 to each girl) for Lesbian action. There are several 'duo's' that try their game on you in Artemis. Just beware.

[QUOTE=TheGreenArrow;2176072]That leads me to my point, in Artemis, two girls (two dark short girls, one is called heaven or angel or something and has a pretty face with fake boobs and then her not pretty friend with big and very red lipps) offered me or tried to force me into the room for 300 hundred each for one hour including BBBJ. [/QUOTE]You are right. Sometimes the girls try ridiculous things when they think they found a sucker.

Easy solution: Just say no. Find someone who is not crazy.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2176216]BBBJ is illegal in Germany now. So, if you want it you enter an illegal scene. The girl can ask anything she wants as it is illegal. If you get caught doing so, you will pay a huge penalty. Other clubs send girls away if they are reported giving BBBJ or asking money for it. The last one is the reason why clients report to the club management.

The two girls that wanted to rip you off is quite common. Never go with two girls if you don't know at least one of them. Two girls might also do the following: offer you a threesome for half an hour for 120 euro. That is a normal price. But if you kiss one of them and she then kisses the other girl you end up paying 100 euro extra (50 to each girl) for Lesbian action. There are several 'duo's' that try their game on you in Artemis. Just beware.[/QUOTE]We can go to FKK in Austria or Switzerland if you are fly in monger, but BBBJ is on is most FKK in Germany still, but in oceans, palace and Artemis, girls try funny trick, but we can go else where.

Hi Fellas,

I have visited both FKK's and apartments in Berlin. Please tell me what I'm missing but what's the benefit of paying 80 euro to walk in when I can just visit an apartment with multiple girls? This is a real question.

[QUOTE=Neworlean;2176844]Hi Fellas,

I have visited both FKK's and apartments in Berlin. Please tell me what I'm missing but what's the benefit of paying 80 euro to walk in when I can just visit an apartment with multiple girls? This is a real question.[/QUOTE]The girls are more clean at FKK and more girls and quality of girls optic is better at FKK.

[QUOTE=Neworlean;2176844]Hi Fellas,

I have visited both FKK's and apartments in Berlin. Please tell me what I'm missing but what's the benefit of paying 80 euro to walk in when I can just visit an apartment with multiple girls? This is a real question.[/QUOTE]What's the point of your question? If you have been to both and don't see the point then just go to an apartment.

People have different sets of requirements. If your requirements are satisfied in an apartment, then you're good. Some people are vegan, their food is more expensive.

[QUOTE=Neworlean;2176844]Hi Fellas,

I have visited both FKK's and apartments in Berlin. Please tell me what I'm missing but what's the benefit of paying 80 euro to walk in when I can just visit an apartment with multiple girls? This is a real question.[/QUOTE]I've only done "walk ins" in the UK, Holland & Thailand so cannot comment on precisely the German scene but both venues have their + & -.

Why I love FKK's is the massive choice of girls, the perverted fun in turning down the "Sharks", well being facilities & free food enabling me to spend several hours or a whole day there relaxing & watching everyone, the general relaxing atmosphere inside & in the garden & the most important thing a big buzz that I rarely get at "walk ins".

FKK's do have negatives and as you say can be expensive with the entrance fee unless you stay a long time. Alcohol can be pricey too.

Personally I would always choose an FKK & make a day out of it however if I was restricted on time or just wanted a "quickly" I would certainly choose a "walk in".

[QUOTE=Neworlean;2176844]Hi Fellas,

I have visited both FKK's and apartments in Berlin. Please tell me what I'm missing but what's the benefit of paying 80 euro to walk in when I can just visit an apartment with multiple girls? This is a real question.[/QUOTE]If you think about it, the answer to this question is pretty obvious. The question itself should have probably been asked in the [B]Lounge and Chat Area[/B] or [B]General Info[/b] sections of the forum. Nevertheless in answer, some of the reasons why so many gentlemen visit FKK and Sauna Clubs is because (in no particular order of importance) they enjoy the facilities, the ladies, the food and drink, the general atmosphere and the possibility to meet and enjoy all of the above with friends and acquaintances. Some visit and go quickly but many (if not most) will spend a whole afternoon and evening is these establishments taking advantage of all the delights on offer. FKKs and Sauna Clubs are extremely popular. That is why the Germany. FKK Clubs is one of the most popular sections of ISG. Certainly more popular (by number of posts) than any other Germany section of the Board (including brothels and apartments).

If FKK and Sauna Clubs are not for you, fair enough! But remember that guys fly across the Atlantic (multiple times) and even from the West Coast of America just to visit these establishments. So they must be doing something right!

Hi Neworlean,

How can I get into the apartment scene as FKK suck especially in Berlin.

[QUOTE=Neworlean;2176844]Hi Fellas,

I have visited both FKK's and apartments in Berlin. Please tell me what I'm missing but what's the benefit of paying 80 euro to walk in when I can just visit an apartment with multiple girls? This is a real question.[/QUOTE]

My background: late 20's, here for optics fuck (ideal is busty petite with good face, 18- 20 yo). 2 years since last visit to FKKs. Basic service good for me, don't need GFE.

1 week ago.

Day 7 and 8: Artemis.

Day 7: Thursday.

- Ruby: 27-28 yo, blonde, fake tits (shows some sag), good face, said she is Maldovan. Went with her because she reminded me of friend. Overall great service. Caring BJ and grinder me nicely with her on top. Not rushed, very caring to make me cum.

- Girl 2: not memorable. Some brunette.

Day 8: Friday, came back thinking might be change is line up even though lots of girls on Thursday night. Not much change, maybe only 10 girl I didn't see on Thursday.

- Gabby: blonde, Ro, 22 yo. Said she's been at Artemis for 4 years. Wished I could have had her when she started, but still nice tight body. Wanted to do her in cinema. First attempt to get her, but another guy took her. Upset but know I will get another chance. Went downstairs to check cinema, and there she is blowing the guy. I sit down to enjoy the show, she's very good. Another guy is watching them too. She's doing long blowjob, the fuck is quick. When she finish from shower I took her down again. Great BJ is confirmed, she did some fucking in cinema, but wanted to finish is room. Very good for me. Later saw the same other guy watching her fuck walk upstairs with her, they likely too fucked in cinema. He nodded to me and said "very good", indeed.

Overall: Action mostly in bar room. Very smoky. Facilities kinda cramped. Food was bad. One day they had salmon, but it was cold. I think they make beforehand and let it sit there for an hour before serving. My first salmon was undercooked, pink, eww.

Girls were on older side, many late 20's and 30's. Much more fake tits, but not nicely done like girls in Sharks with nice fake tits (Sharks also has more younger and naturals). Will not come back to this club unless major change is line up.

[QUOTE=Baiju;2177165]Hi Neworlean,

How can I get into the apartment scene as FKK suck especially in Berlin.[/QUOTE]Baiju,

What a nice nickname.

The first pen of my life was also a pelican, not white but blue. I miss him. Just do a little online research and you will find all the remaining apartment brothels, then just go there and ring the bell. But be aware, service should be shitty too.

Does Artemis have a father's day party and am I allowed to get in even without having own kids or is it a real men only party?

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2177628]Does Artemis have a father's day party and am I allowed to get in even without having own kids or is it a real men only party?[/QUOTE]Parties are meant to attract more customers. Not shut some of them out. Vatertag is big in Germany and all clubs try to get their share of men.

I'm due to visit the Club on Monday 21st May and was wondering if anyone had any experience about a typical Monday LU?

I just hope there will be a few decent girls to select from as opposed to the "sharks" that sometimes TRY and promote themselves.

I'm guessing it will be fairly quite (I will be there most of the day) but I have been on a Tuesday & although the girls said it was too quite for them I thought it was very busy with plenty of barbie types. Well busy enough for me!!

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2178446]Parties are meant to attract more customers. Not shut some of them out. Vatertag is big in Germany and all clubs try to get their share of men.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah! I was just a little confused about the emphasis on "Father". What I could learned it is also called 'Maennertag' or 'Christi Himmelfahrt' and nowadays it is more like a celebration day for the whole family. However, I am sure that Father's Day Special with free beer (for every kind of man) and barbecue met with a great response.

But last time a girl said I am not allowed to come because I'm not a dad at all. (with a smile).

I was probably fooled again.

Thanks for the answer and have fun wherever you are.

[QUOTE=Canary;2178495]I'm due to visit the Club on Monday 21st May and was wondering if anyone had any experience about a typical Monday LU?

I just hope there will be a few decent girls to select from as opposed to the "sharks" that sometimes TRY and promote themselves.

I'm guessing it will be fairly quite (I will be there most of the day) but I have been on a Tuesday & although the girls said it was too quite for them I thought it was very busy with plenty of barbie types. Well busy enough for me!![/QUOTE]IMO Sundays, Mondays and Tuesday is about the same amount of girls at Artemis. These are the days I usually visit Artemis I tend to go there around 2 pm to have some breakfast before they close the dining area at 3 pm. At this hour there are usually only about 20 girls to choose from. Between 5 pm and 8 pm when day-shift and night-shift switches you usually find 50-70 girls on these days, always a few options at least for my taste!

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2177628]Does Artemis have a father's day party and am I allowed to get in even without having own kids or is it a real men only party?[/QUOTE]It means you get to bring your kids with you to the club!

Friends,

I am planning to travel to Artemis directly from the airport. I will be carrying a cabin bag alone, sized up to 56 cm x 45 cm x 25 cm. Are the lockers large enough for such baggage?

Sorry for getting into technical matters!

Thanks.

Hi,

I'm going to Berlin in June. I've never experienced FKK and maybe will give it a go this time. I just want to know if the rooms are clean? The last thing I want is to walk on some other guy's cum.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2178636]Hi,

I'm going to Berlin in June. I've never experienced FKK and maybe will give it a go this time. I just want to know if the rooms are clean? The last thing I want is to walk on some other guy's cum.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]On both my visits to Artemis I've always found the place to be clean, in fact there are often service staff wondering about keeping the place in good order.

My main criticism is the food, I appreciate it's free but IMO it's awful!

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2178614]Friends,

I am planning to travel to Artemis directly from the airport. I will be carrying a cabin bag alone, sized up to 56 cm x 45 cm x 25 cm. Are the lockers large enough for such baggage?

Sorry for getting into technical matters!

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If your bag doesn't fit in the locker they will store it for you in a room behind the reception desk. I always have a backpack with me that fits in the locker ok.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2178636]Hi,

I'm going to Berlin in June. I've never experienced FKK and maybe will give it a go this time. I just want to know if the rooms are clean? The last thing I want is to walk on some other guy's cum.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Cum drinking is mandatory ahead of every room. And there is cum in the baked potatoes for dinner. There is even a jaccuzzi with 80% cum and added air like in ice cream, for extra added moisture after a session. And then there is the cum bar downstairs. Built like an ice-bar, its walls, floor and ceiling is fully made out of frozen cum. Even the glasses are made out of hardened cum. The girls love it, and it is where you will find the hottest girls hanging out.

Enjoy your stay!

Hi everyone! (sorry for my English, I'm French).

I never have been in a FKK and I was wondering if the Artemis is a good one for a first time?

I heard that some girls try to rip newcomers off is that true?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=EazyX;2179076]Hi everyone! (sorry for my English, I'm French). I never have been in a FKK and I was wondering if the Artemis is a good one for a first time? I heard that some girls try to rip newcomers off is that true? Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Your English is clear to me. The easiest answer to your question is "Yes". But to give good advice after that is difficult. First, in any FKK a newbie will have these problems. Maybe ParkSauna Residenz is the exception but I didn't like it very much. In Artemis you can do one of the following. Talk to a girl for some time and if she wants to talk a bit more than it is likely that she will be less sharky. Girls that work on their own and not in groups usually are less sharky. Girls that tell you that they will kiss you usually are less sharky. In the early afternoon there is less business and a girl might take more time for you. There are some girls that have shown themselves to be not sharky but line-up in Artemis varies a lot. Mandy is a blonde Australian and she treated many men fairly. Jenna has big boobs and doesn't play customers. If German Emiglia is there, you should take her without hesitation. Do not ever take two girls in the room and do not ever take over confident or very popular girls into a room. Polish girls so far have not disappointed me in Artemis. If Polish Gabriela is there, you can take her to a room. And just remember that I have been there a lot and I haven been in quite a few FKK but still make wrong choices. Then simply finish the session and look for another girl. There are plenty and only some of them are really sharky.

Good luck. Oh, one thing more. As you are French, you could try some French website.

[QUOTE=EazyX;2179076]Hi everyone! (sorry for my English, I'm French).

I never have been in a FKK and I was wondering if the Artemis is a good one for a first time?

I heard that some girls try to rip newcomers off is that true?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Artemis is as good as anywhere to begin your FKK-experience. Many girls tries to hustle men if they get a chance not only newbies, the most important thing on a FKK or any club in the world for that matter is to talk to the girl before you go to her room so that you know what to expect, if the girl can't give you a few minutes of her time then most likely she's not a good choice anyway. This small matter can't be echoed enough it will save you a lot of euros and your time there will be much more pleasant!

I suggest you tell them you have been there before, take the virtual tour on their website so you know your way around. Have fun!

Thank you so much guys for your answers!

Last question and I leave you alone haha!

Are the girls fully naked or in lingerie at the Artemis? I know that in every FKK once a week there is a "special" day where girls are not fully naked but what is the actual meaning of "naked" in FKK? Just a thong maybe and topless or it depends?

Are they doing BBQ in that month?

Even though the general rule is to always avoid sharks, one of my top ten experiences ever was with a shark I met hunting in the staircase at Artemis. Her name was Amina, with Iranian decent. I ended up doing several sessions with her. Non-smoker, good kisser and all three holes available. So there are exceptions to the rule.

[QUOTE=EazyX;2179432]Thank you so much guys for your answers!

Last question and I leave you alone haha!

Are the girls fully naked or in lingerie at the Artemis? I know that in every FKK once a week there is a "special" day where girls are not fully naked but what is the actual meaning of "naked" in FKK? Just a thong maybe and topless or it depends?[/QUOTE]Mixed. Some naked, some lingerie with tits out. Different from magnum I went to where they wear full lingerie covering tits.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2178569]It means you get to bring your kids with you to the club![/QUOTE]A rule of my deceased mother was always to say politely "please" and "thank you" and that sincerely. Because of this I would like to express my gratitude for the helpful answer to my question.

I am touched. Nevertheless, with all the fun a very little decency should prevail.

Those German playgrounds are only for adult brats.

[QUOTE=EazyX;2179076]Hi everyone! (sorry for my English, I'm French).

I never have been in a FKK and I was wondering if the Artemis is a good one for a first time?

I heard that some girls try to rip newcomers off is that true?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Yes it is. Clubs are made perfect for ripping everybody off. Beware of the girls who play the game "I am so nice" perfectly. Those are the megalodons among the harmless sharks.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2179253].I suggest you tell them you have been there before, take the virtual tour on their website so you know your way around. Have fun![/QUOTE]Why you suggest somebody to lie about the number of his visits? Don't you know that management is reading? Even front desk will asked him if he is a first timer.

[QUOTE=EazyX;2179432]Are the girls fully naked or in lingerie at the Artemis? I know that in every FKK once a week there is a "special" day where girls are not fully naked but what is the actual meaning of "naked" in FKK? Just a thong maybe and topless or it depends?[/QUOTE]Naked actually means wrapped in a towel. Not every girl has so much self-confidence to present herself completely naked and likes to be watched for hours by voyeurs.

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2179440]Are they doing BBQ in that month?[/QUOTE]I also wanted to go that day. I hope the weather is not nice. I prefer the ordinary food. Call the reception and then post the answer here.

[QUOTE=Hermann666;2179478]Even though the general rule is to always avoid sharks, one of my top ten experiences ever was with a shark I met hunting in the staircase at Artemis. Her name was Amina, with Iranian decent. I ended up doing several sessions with her. Non-smoker, good kisser and all three holes available. So there are exceptions to the rule.[/QUOTE]She was my first ever Artemis room. 60 E for 11 minutes suck and fuck. But she didn't asked for a tip. I guess that is called GFE.

Sorry everybody. I am just moody and so tired.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2179579]Naked actually means wrapped in a towel. Not every girl has so much self-confidence to present herself completely naked and likes to be watched for hours by voyeurs.[/QUOTE]They are wrapped in a towel only when they go for food, still there boobs are there!

They are completely naked except one lingerie day (usually Wednesday) and believe me they do have self-confidence to walk around while voyeurs check their pussy. I don't think they care.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2179579]Naked actually means wrapped in a towel. Not every girl has so much self-confidence to present herself completely naked and likes to be watched for hours by voyeurs.[/QUOTE]Naked in Artemis used to mean fully naked. There are three valid exceptions to that rule.

1. Lingerie day.

2. Lunch / dinner: they wrap a towel, just above their breasts.

3. A bra after silicon implants, for a few weeks.

Girls however are quite resourceful. They will put on any clothes as long as they don't cover their breasts or pussy. So it might turn out a 'negative' from a bikini. Once you are aware of this, it can serve as a pastime to watch it.

Alright, thanks guys!

I'm soon off again to Artemis, the excitement & anticipation builds up for me a few days before I visit, I'm like a kid in a sweetie shop LOL!

Obviously as the girls work independently no one will know the LU until the actual day but has anyone been very recently to Artemis?

If a few of my favourites (& some ladies I would like to try) are currently working there is a chance they will be there next week when I visit?

The ladies are; Sandra (busty), Nicole, Sidney & Sissie (all blondes).

Also Emiglia (German), Paige (English), Valentina, (Spanish) & Gabriela (Polish).

Monday night might be a bit quite anyway so I'm guessing I will be lucky if one or two of them will be working.

Many thanks.

P.S: I will compile a report if required upon my return as I will be there for around 15 hours. Stamina & wallet prevailing!

[QUOTE=Canary;2179870]I'm soon off again to Artemis, the excitement & anticipation builds up for me a few days before I visit, I'm like a kid in a sweetie shop LOL!

Obviously as the girls work independently no one will know the LU until the actual day but has anyone been very recently to Artemis?

If a few of my favourites (& some ladies I would like to try) are currently working there is a chance they will be there next week when I visit?

The ladies are; Sandra (busty), Nicole, Sidney & Sissie (all blondes).[/QUOTE]I land on the on the 22nd, I won't be there till the 23rd, I am waiting for lingerer day! I read Wednesday is BBQ day. Not sure if May is the month for BBQ, I certainly hope so! I was there maybe 5-7 years ago? It was great and I got an awesome blowjob by a Hungarian chick, I like spit and drool! If anyone knows a chick that does, let me know.

Please report, I have not been back since the new rule. Has anyone been there recently? Is bareback blow jobs automatic? Do I have to haggle and give a surcharge? If so, this may be my last trip to Germany. BBBJ is the only reason I go to these fuck and suck Holidays! I was planning maybe checking out Club Nina's, has anyone been there? Is it worth it?

When I was in Artemis, German girl Susie and Daisy were working there. Those 2 were sisters, I only had Susie and she was rather mechanical, but nice. I was planning trying my luck out on street walkers on the 22nd, does anyone know the consequences on getting caught? I was planning to head out to Kurfürstenstrasse, however you spell it, and use the kino at LSD. I have never picked up a street walker in Berlin, so I like to try it. Does anyone know what they charge? And are they AO? I like the adrenaline on picking up hookers.

When does the you and S banh stop running? I hate to miss my train. I am only in Berlin for 2 days, then Dusseldorf, Cologne, and Frankfurt. Its a fuckfest for me! But I am rather concern with the new law. I have money to burn, but I find it a turn off if I must beg and pay more. I feel as if they have more leeway because of that. Most likely I will refuse to pay for it and not do any fucking and sucking, no matter how great they look.

To those that have, were you able to do CIM? I remember Artemis was rather more, 50 more I beleive? Is that still available? I remember GT was only 20-25 more?

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2179922]Please report, I have not been back since the new rule. Has anyone been there recently? Is bareback blow jobs automatic? Do I have to haggle and give a surcharge? If so, this may be my last trip to Germany. BBBJ is the only reason I go to these fuck and suck Holidays![/QUOTE]Always depends on girl, but from recent experience, plan on paying 50 e extra for anything above basic service.

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2179922]I was planning trying my luck out on street walkers on the 22nd, does anyone know the consequences on getting caught? I was planning to head out to Kurfrstenstrasse, however you spell it, and use the kino at LSD. I have never picked up a street walker in Berlin, so I like to try it. Does anyone know what they charge? And are they AO? I like the adrenaline on picking up hookers. [/QUOTE]I only have seen street walkers. Never do them. Their number and looks are in decline. You won't be caught because of the street walker but if you are caught for BB then you might be paying for quite a while.

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2179922]When does the you and S banh stop running? I hate to miss my train. I am only in Berlin for 2 days, then Dusseldorf, Cologne, and Frankfurt. Its a fuckfest for me! [/QUOTE][URL]https://www.bahn.com/en/view/index.shtml[/URL] will give you the necessary info. They have an app as well. Just look for "Berlin Westkreuz" etc. To Hauptbahnhof it seems that on May 24 the S-bahn will only stop between 1 AM and 3 AM. But just try it yourself. Not all lines will have that service. It is actually S-bahn (mostly above ground level) and you-bahn (mostly under ground level).

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2179922]But I am rather concern with the new law.[/QUOTE]Asking for AO and worries about getting caught. Yes, you should be concerned with those wishes. I want to tell you that CBJ has not disappointed me lately.

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2179922]I have money to burn, but I find it a turn off if I must beg and pay more. I feel as if they have more leeway because of that.[/QUOTE]Certainly true in Artemis but other clubs don't allow girls to ask money for things the law does not allow. You can just make clear appointments in the lounge. Remember that if you want CIM in Artemis you pay for CIM and for BBBJ. That might add up to 100 euro easily.

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2179922]Please report, I have not been back since the new rule. Has anyone been there recently? Is bareback blow jobs automatic? Do I have to haggle and give a surcharge?

To those that have, were you able to do CIM? I remember Artemis was rather more, 50 more I beleive? Is that still available? I remember GT was only 20-25 more?[/QUOTE]Since the introduction of the new law I have been offered BBBJ for an extra €50, €30 & at no extra cost. There are also some girls who will only provide CBJ. It really depends on (a) The girl, (b) Your negotiation skills.

Regards CIM it's never really been "my thing" but I've often been offered this many times for an extra €50.

IMO if you've never met the girl before the chat beforehand is most important not only to ascertain the services she provides but to try & gauge her personality & likelihood of providing a good service.

For me this is all part of the fun!

If anyone wishes to know whether any particular individual is currently working at Artemis or indeed anything else, just drop me a line as I will be there tomorrow for nearly the whole day. So I will have a bit of spare "down time" to aid recovery.

[QUOTE=Canary;2182662]If anyone wishes to know whether any particular individual is currently working at Artemis......[/QUOTE]

Hey Canary,

Let us know if you see Even (or Evan/Heaven) there. I could be tempted to swing by here again pretty soon if she is. You can't miss her. Slim gazelle, very pretty brunette, Romanian and with amazing pointed silicon tits (B+ cups). May be wearing thick black framed glasses.

Also could you provide a comment on the line up. Updates on any new stunners would be a plus.

Many thanks...Howie.

Since I've never been to a FKK I don't know what to expect. Does Artemis have private baths? I'd love to take a bath with 1-2 girls. I get the impression, however, that everything is done under stress: quick sex and fast cash.

[QUOTE=Canary;2182662]If anyone wishes to know whether any particular individual is currently working at Artemis or indeed anything else, just drop me a line as I will be there tomorrow for nearly the whole day. So I will have a bit of spare "down time" to aid recovery.[/QUOTE]I'd like to know if Kiara (ger) or Kylie (cze) still are working in Artemis. Kiara has big silicon tits, lot of tattoos and amazing eyes. Kylie has brown hair and natural tits. She is a bit sharky.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Canary;2182662]If anyone wishes to know whether any particular individual is currently working at Artemis or indeed anything else, just drop me a line as I will be there tomorrow for nearly the whole day. So I will have a bit of spare "down time" to aid recovery.[/QUOTE]Thanks for you kind offer Canary.

Last February I had a great session with a Brazilian mulata around 30 years old, but don't recall her name. Reportedly she was back to Artemis after a long break. Can you see what Brazilian girls are hanging around?

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2179922]When I was in Artemis, German girl Susie and Daisy were working there. Those 2 were sisters, I only had Susie and she was rather mechanical, but nice.[/QUOTE]I never saw Susie or her sister at Artemis since probably 2015. Maybe even 2014. She has mostly been at Sharks (as Liz) the past few years with a few shorter runs at GoldenTime Bruggen. Her sister Daisy stopped working from what I understood.

That's a very generous offer from you Mr. Canary. In case you should know them despite your third or fourth visit, the father of a cousin of my neighbor would like to know if Mariella and / or Tanja are currently or at all still hanging around Artemis.

Both are Germans from the North of the Republic, blond and know how to create a natural erection by letting their shapely buttocks wander through the club in an inimitable way.

But he's just a stalker, so do not take the request too seriously.

BTW Monday is a holiday in Germany, so don't wonder if you don't have to pay all the prostitutes by yourself.

At Milfotronic: There is a Vip room, I think it also has a jacuzzi. The use of course costs extra.

At DioRetz and Pksimar69:

Thank you for your helpful education and correction regarding the "nakedness".

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2182900]Since I've never been to a FKK I don't know what to expect. Does Artemis have private baths? I'd love to take a bath with 1-2 girls. I get the impression, however, that everything is done under stress: quick sex and fast cash.[/QUOTE]Yes, in VIP room.

I got there tonight around 5:30, things didn't build up till around 8 I believe. Line up was less than stellar, BBBJ was almost impossible.

Wanted me a nice German blonde girl, refuse BBBJ, only saw 2. This new law suck monkey balls and ass. I settle up with 3 Romanians who did BBBJ with the scale level of 3 of 10 in looks. Lots of bottocs and disgusting implants. I will not be coming back to Artemis.

Even the girls said things suck ass now. I hope the laws change, and the girls were pissed when I opt out of condom blows. Lots of girls sitting around for fucking hours! They pay 80 to work, where do they get the money to stay? Leaving for Dusseldorf tomorrow to hit LR. Wish me fucking luck!

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2184167]Even the girls said things suck ass now. I hope the laws change, and the girls were pissed when I opt out of condom blows. Lots of girls sitting around for fucking hours! They pay 80 to work, where do they get the money to stay? Leaving for Dusseldorf tomorrow to hit LR. Wish me fucking luck![/QUOTE]I have been told they share rooms to save on rent. In other clubs they pay 100 e to enter the club.

In my opinion Artemis is over rated, ok it is big and has lots of girls but the quality of service is not so good. I like Palace in FRA more.

[QUOTE=Ulver;2182903]I'd like to know if Kiara (ger) or Kylie (cze) still are working in Artemis. Kiara has big silicon tits, lot of tattoos and amazing eyes. Kylie has brown hair and natural tits. She is a bit sharky.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I don't think Kiara works in Artemis any more. Either a break from this line of work or simply change of pasture, I don't remember which.

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2184167]I will not be coming back to Artemis.

Even the girls said things suck ass now. I hope the laws change, and the girls were pissed when I opt out of condom blows. Lots of girls sitting around for fucking hours! They pay 80 to work, where do they get the money to stay? Leaving for Dusseldorf tomorrow to hit LR. Wish me fucking luck![/QUOTE]The law will not change or disappear. The girl can do something about their situation. Otherwise more clients besides you and me will come to the conclusion you stated with the first sentence in my quote.

[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2184167] BBBJ was almost impossible.

Wanted me a nice German blonde girl, refuse BBBJ, only saw 2. This new law suck monkey balls and ass. I settle up with 3 Romanians who did BBBJ with the scale level of 3 of 10 in looks. Lots of bottocs and disgusting implants. I will not be coming back to Artemis.

Even the girls said things suck ass now. I hope the laws change, and the girls were pissed when I opt out of condom blows. Lots of girls sitting around for fucking hours! They pay 80 to work, where do they get the money to stay? Leaving for Dusseldorf tomorrow to hit LR. Wish me fucking luck![/QUOTE]Good luck and enjoy your trip to LR, Care to expand on your comments a tad? Did the German girls refuse BBBJ and the Romanians were more flexible? Curious to know what they offered for a CBJ / FS session and what you settled for with the BBBJ / CFS sessions assuming no monkey wrenches to pricing were tossed in like DFK or DATY CIM or Greek etc.

It is sad this place has gone downhill but I may hit it in the fall. I have to pay the family an obligatory visit and go home and thru Baltimore I can fly in to Berlin for pennies so first night and last night in Berlin. Artemis I loved and it might not be what it was in 2016 (was fucking awesome in fact, highlight of that trip) but it beats sitting in my hotel room and I would much rather get hosed by one of them now if I could snap my fingers and be there instead I have to search for Texas WGs where pricing is sort of similar to meats, ' pay by pound'.

I would much rather go H2H with a Artemis girl now (All it takes is one, will look for the crack in the wall) than a Texan Pork Belly.

Visited Artemis on Tuesday at around 10. Went with a German girl named Anja (I think that was her name). She was a very petite blonde with natural breasts and several tattoos. She spoke pretty good English and was very enthusiastic, wasn't worried about time and didn't feel rushed at all. Anyone else familiar with this girl? I would def recommend her.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2184222]In my opinion Artemis is over rated, ok it is big and has lots of girls but the quality of service is not so good. I like Palace in FRA more.[/QUOTE]LOL I'm sure that for plenty of guys here, for somebody to say Palace is better than Artemis is like the pot calling the kettle black LOLOLOL! I happen to like both clubs and have garnered many, many pleasant memories from each of them. During my last trip, the brightest star of the entire journey was found at Artemis. FKKs are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get! The club that was hot the last time this time around is not. And vice versa. That's why you need to have a wide rotation and just get around to a lot of clubs. You just never know when and where you're going to discover the next top quality tute!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2184407]LOL I'm sure that for plenty of guys here, for somebody to say Palace is better than Artemis is like the pot calling the kettle black LOLOLOL! I happen to like both clubs and have garnered many, many pleasant memories from each of them. During my last trip, the brightest star of the entire journey was found at Artemis. FKKs are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get! The club that was hot the last time this time around is not. And vice versa. That's why you need to have a wide rotation and just get around to a lot of clubs. You just never know when and where you're going to discover the next top quality tute![/QUOTE]Well I have to agree it is like a box of chocolates. I have been to Artemis only once and to Palace 4 times. Maybe I was just lucky and found some lovely ladies in FRA while in Berlin it just wasn't my day. Bad thing with Berlin is that you don't have alternative options. What if I tell you that Sharks was even worse than both? LOL.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2184367]Good luck and enjoy your trip to LR, Care to expand on your comments a tad? Did the German girls refuse BBBJ and the Romanians were more flexible? Curious to know what they offered for a CBJ / FS session and what you settled for with the BBBJ / CFS sessions assuming no monkey wrenches to pricing were tossed in like DFK or DATY CIM or Greek etc..[/QUOTE]Could not hit LR tonight. I boarded the ICE 544 at 3:44 PM, and did not arrive in my hotel till 1:30 AM. Apparently people being killed by the ICE is a common occurrence in Germany, I thought people were joking, its not. They did give me a voucher for my money back, 116 Euro. As for the question about Romanians being more flexible? Not all. I had some flat out refuse and some wanted extra just for that without including CIM.

I did not find 1 single attractive Romanian there. I was able to bargain BBBJ only if it includes CIM, paid extra 40 Euro to 1 girl, and 50 Euro to the other 2. I am a CIM man, and I will refuse to pay extra for that, as some girls were there to ask for that on top. Standard FS / CBJ is still 60 euro's.

The girls there have an attitude. I have never experience this at any FKK I been too, there's also a lot of frustration as no one is really engaging, I really hope this get the point across to them, but I doubt it. The real German girls stood in the far right corner, before you enter the pole room section. I think those 2 maybe only had 1 session each through out the night I was there watching. German girls don't engage with the Romanians I notice, every FKK I been.

Finding a German is like finding a white girl among a bunch of black girls in the redlight of California.

Every Romanian claims to be something else, so obvious. The excitement is no longer what it once was in 6 years ago. I forgot to mention the food was fucking terrible! The club was not even full of men like it used to be, just rather dull.

I do no recommend this club to anyone, I will either hit LR or GT, but GT is so fucking far!

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2184452]What if I tell you that Sharks was even worse than both? LOL.[/QUOTE]I would totally understand since Sharks doesn't do it for me either. In the Frankfurt area, I like Oase, Palace, and World in that order. I'm so disenchanted with Mainhattan that I don't even have a desire to go there anymore at the moment (and have not sessioned there in years). Also have not sessioned at Sharks in a long, long time but can't turn it totally off since there's just too much talent walking around that club numbers-wise.

Artemis was great on a Thursday, but I tried going back today (Friday at 4 pm) and there was literally a line of dudes at reception waiting to get in. I noped out of there and left.

I guess it was to be expected since it's the weekend, but nonetheless disappointing. Anyone here have experience Friday late night, like 2-3 am? I was thinking of returning then.

The place is big. Why turn around if there's a line of guys?

Was there on Thursday night. Had a very good time. Spend most of my time with 2 Moldovan girls. The 1 blond tall her name was Ruby and the other one Isabelle I think dark hair.

I will definitely go again but not on Weekends.

Can't say that I enjoyed my time at Artemis.

My partner is with me so I couldn't go at night. Arrived at 11:15 am and stayed to 6 pm on a Monday, probs not the best time, but it's what I had to work with.

Club.

The club itself is nice, but the outdoor pool seems smaller than other places I've been (Oase, Sharks) - or maybe that's just my imagination. The indoor (downstairs) pool was great, but empty (except when I was in it). They ask for additional money to use the hammam - 50 euro for 30 min or something? At an 80 euro entry, that crap should be free. The food offerings was pretty lame as well. I was hoping would have outdoor shag spots / tents / cabins (like Oase) but this was pretty contained. Overall, I liked the clubs in Frankfurt better. For the layout / ambiance of just soaking up some sun and watching nude girls play. Also, The kino wasn't as cool as the one in Oase. Nobody was using these areas / and the beers are $10 euro each.

Took a taxi, it was 34 euro there and 30 on the way back (Mitte).

Girls.

Totally under-impressed with the lineup. Maybe 30 girls and most all of them were old hags, if there was a girl in there under 25 I'll eat my shorts. When I inquired about their ages it was pretty funny, seems like it's common to take real age and subtract 10, sometimes 15. Some of the girls looked great from a distance, but up close their age really showed. Lines around the eyes deep enough to fill will wall plaster (and I think some of them tried).

A few interesting encounters, listening to their sales pitches, none of them were too aggressive, but the hard ones (er, really hard ones. They're all hard here) would just fire you and walk off (like Snow White).

I took a Spanish girl, she BJ with condom ($100 asked for extra / received a free laugh), and missionary sex. She kept her hand under her body the entire time assuring the condom stayed on. Terribly annoying.

Took a Berlin girl (blonde, not very hot), couldn't finish with her as the sex was so bad, she also was covered and wanted $50 extra for BBBJ. Again; the free laugh.

Took another German who was super thin, but up close looked like something escaped from the Egyptian Museum. She was totally insane, really insane (had been in the bars 10+ years). Biting me, talking wildly, deep throat (covered) and not in a good way, I ended it early and was just happy to escape the room.

The rest of the girls were just used up looking, haggard. Maybe it's different at night, and maybe more options. There were no blacks, Latin or any other flavor in the 7 HR I was around.

In the end I paid 330 euro for 3 forgettable experiences with 3 completely average to sub-average girls. Still, no hard feelings. Live and learn. The eye candy at a distance was fun.

Next trip is certainly back to Frankfurt and Dusseldorf for me!

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2186106]She kept her hand under her body the entire time assuring the condom stayed on. Terribly annoying.[/QUOTE]I had the same thing happen with literally 5 of the 6 girls I experienced there. It's very annoying, but I get it.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2184979]The place is big. Why turn around if there's a line of guys?[/QUOTE]Bad advice. I actually went back and Artemis was stupidly crowded. You could barely walk around at all, and all the room keys were taken at times. Stay away from this club on the weekends if you don't want that.

There are 2 cinema's at Artemis. Which one did you try? Upstairs or downstairs? I've had some of my best sex experiences ever at the upstairs cinema. Downstairs kinda suck.

The pool outside is more shallow than at other clubs, like sharks. But I think it is the same size as sharks pool.

I was there last Friday. An update. The theke during the day is a young fresh girl that was very nice for a change. The amount of girls far exceeded the number of men until around 10 pm But it never got really crowded like it used to be.

The beauty of the girls is better than at GT for example. At any time of day until around 10 pm there were always 5 to 10 girls that I liked well enough for a session. The food is getting worse and worse. Wonder what will be next. Crackers and canned fish? The staff at the bar has improved greatly. Only little waiting for a drink. More blonde girls than I could remember in the last 6 or 7 years or so. Even more plastic than I could remember. Most noticeable is the great lack of men during the day. I was at the pool with 7 girls, no other men. That was around 2 am. For her fans: I think I saw Jenna. Mandy definitely was there. I talked with a very nice girl, her name is Julia but I did not session with her. Raissa was there two. Beautiful as ever and very good skills but I didn't want her early in the day as she can make me come in minutes with her blowjob, covered or not.

I had sessions with Viviane, dark blonde, 1.60, 25 yo tattoo on her left butt cheek. Natural tits. She is from Germany. Her skills are good but her attitude sucks. She is very good at sucking and I had no trouble coming with CBJ. She told me she could not fuck all the time for 60 euro. Her pussy was too delicate and she could not fuck like a machine. So she said. Well, it seemed very much mechanical to me. So she was exactly doing the thing she said she wanted to avoid. For her skills are better than most. So not too bad a session but if you are looking for GFE, do not book her.

I liked Amy much better. A German blonde, 1.65, 27 yo. Natural tits. I had to kiss her. One of the best sessions so far this year. At some point she couldn't stop kissing me any more. So. I paid her a huge tip. A good session should be rewarded. Amy is often sitting at the bar, closest spot to the pole.

Last session was a mistake. Raja, a Moldovan with plastic tits and only 22 yo, 1.55. She has a face to die for. Her butt is unbelievable. But her service is so utterly bad I just want to forget about her.

Two tips: girls like Raissa, Viviane, Raissa and Mandy have excellent CBJ's. No need to pay for BBBJ. Other thing is that the beer will be free of charge during the World Cup matches of Germany. I wonder whether Artemis will get worse and worse or that the low level of service is just a dip. Anyway, the girls were quite polite this day and that has been different.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2186233]There are 2 cinema's at Artemis. Which one did you try? Upstairs or downstairs? I've had some of my best sex experiences ever at the upstairs cinema. Downstairs kinda suck.

The pool outside is more shallow than at other clubs, like sharks. But I think it is the same size as sharks pool.[/QUOTE]Downstairs are the chairs, upstairs the beds. The Spanish girl found me in the kino downstairs, I went with her primarily due to the erection caused from the porn clip.

I dropped into the downstairs kino 4 x, I was the only one 3 of those times, the fourth there was an Asian kid, me, and someone sleeping behind me. Girls rarely if ever dropped in downstairs while I was there, and no action.

Upstairs were the beds, I didn't really feel comfortable hanging in this room as it was always dead empty. I'd have to sit on a bed and I thought that was asking for company. The lineup on Monday was truly dire and I was more akin to the virgin-girl locked in the prison overnight. Always trying to dodge the inmates and escape with my dignity intact!

Yeah, maybe the same size as Sharks (pool) - but Sharks just felt more fun. Maybe it was the better LU and hormones. Or the more open area.

[QUOTE=Mach9;2186142]I had the same thing happen with literally 5 of the 6 girls I experienced there. It's very annoying, but I get it.[/QUOTE]Never had a girl hold the condom before. I've also never had a condom 'fall' off. I had to stop to ask her what she was doing. I thought maybe she was living in fear that one of my strokes would miss her vagina and land in her rear. (some danger of that as I could have let the MyTaxi park in there.

However, she replied she was holding the condom on. I explained that's what my cock is for. But she continued to hold it.

No BBBJ, holding condoms on, if this is where the world is going I'm just going to stay in Asia. But will miss my twice yearly trips to Germany. If nothing else for the beer and food.

Raissa still working day shift? I missed out on her once or twice since she left too early. One of the few girls to look forward to at Artemis these days. Did you spot Aksena or Suna by the way? Or Ella?

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2186106]Took a taxi, it was 34 euro there and 30 on the way back (Mitte)...[/QUOTE]Try public transport system next time. For 7.70 Euro you get a day ticket for the whole of Berlin. (I think valid until 2 am.) For 3.40 Euro you can drive through the city for 2 hours.

The money saved, compared to the taxi ride, you can invest in the hamam, an extra or a few beers.

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2186106].Took another German who was super thin, but up close looked like something escaped from the Egyptian Museum. She was totally insane, really insane...[/QUOTE]Do you remember her name? I like crazy people or at least more then those who think they are not a bit insane at all.

Thanks for the work you put in your report.

Looking forward to Berlin.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2186468]Try public transport system next time. For 7.70 Euro you get a day ticket for the whole of Berlin. (I think valid until 2 am.) For 3.40 Euro you can drive through the city for 2 hours.

The money saved, compared to the taxi ride, you can invest in the hamam, an extra or a few beers.

Do you remember her name? I like crazy people or at least more then those who think they are not a bit insane at all.

Looking forward to Berlin.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I was headed for the metro. It goes pretty close, but these days I have to save every bit of energy I have. So much easier to open up the MyTaxi app and chill. I wasn't bemoaning the price, just documenting it for other mongers. But, you're right. The taxi was the same cost as another short time.

Nope, can't remember her name, dark hair, super skinny, doesn't like the sun. Appears to stake out the bar area, friends with a very large blonde gal. She was just too much for me, if you've ever shagged a crack / coke person you'll know what I mean. One second a blow job then jumps up to talk to you, bite your stomach, down for another stroke or two of BJ then telling you she hates boring sex, then bites your arm, runs her mouth, jumps up etc etc. Like a love-bot with some seriously screwed up software.

Not my thing. I prefer them to just lay down, open and let me do the work.

Excuse my low to no English skills. I understood not everything exactly but I guess I got the main meaning. Taxi is far more relaxed, especially when it is so hot out there. Copy that, it safes some energy. I was also just trying to give some serious information about the easy public transport possibility to those who may interested.

So do you included the bill for the cab rides and one beer into your 330 euro all in all Artemis day costs? I am just asking because out of your writings I assume that all your 3 rooms were for 60 Euro each.

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2186670]Nope, can't remember her name, dark hair, super skinny, doesn't like the sun. Appears to stake out the bar area, friends with a very large blonde gal. She was just too much for me, if you've ever shagged a crack / coke person you'll know what I mean. One second a blow job then jumps up to talk to you, bite your stomach, down for another stroke or two of BJ then telling you she hates boring sex, then bites your arm, runs her mouth, jumps up etc etc. Like a love-bot with some seriously screwed up software.

Not my thing. I prefer them to just lay down, open and let me do the work.[/QUOTE]YaYa sounds tough to handle if you were actually looking for something else. I am sure you're able to score in the next yard. And really I don't know what you mean, but at least I am grinning if I imagine how the bored shark is trying to bite into elephants belly. Hope you don't misunderstood the humor.

Thanks for your responds.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2186358]I liked Amy much better. A German blonde, 1.65, 27 yo. Natural tits. I had to kiss her. One of the best sessions so far this year. At some point she couldn't stop kissing me any more. So. I paid her a huge tip. A good session should be rewarded. Amy is often sitting at the bar, closest spot to the pole.[/QUOTE]Indeed, Amy is a gem. I never saw her hanging out at a bar since she finds me often than I her. However, she is charming, welcoming, and often wears lingerie.

Public transport:

The day ticket is 8.00 Euro and valid until 03:00 am IMHO.

The two hour ticket is 2.80 Euro now.

Above tickets are valid for zone A and be in Berlin. This is enough when you fly in via Tegel (TXL).

Schoenefeld (SXF) is in zone see, and that could be the 3. 40 Euro ticket.

However, either train station Halensee or Westkreuz, both are just a short walk away from Arte.

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2186670]Yeah, I was headed for the metro. It goes pretty close, but these days I have to save every bit of energy I have. So much easier to open up the MyTaxi app and chill. I wasn't bemoaning the price, just documenting it for other mongers. But, you're right. The taxi was the same cost as another short time.

Nope, can't remember her name, dark hair, super skinny, doesn't like the sun. Appears to stake out the bar area, friends with a very large blonde gal. She was just too much for me, if you've ever shagged a crack / coke person you'll know what I mean. One second a blow job then jumps up to talk to you, bite your stomach, down for another stroke or two of BJ then telling you she hates boring sex, then bites your arm, runs her mouth, jumps up etc etc. Like a love-bot with some seriously screwed up software.

Not my thing. I prefer them to just lay down, open and let me do the work.[/QUOTE]Saving energy by refusing to walk from public transportation stop to Artemis, if this is true it is better you stay home. It is so close.

Hi guys,

I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?

[QUOTE=TheCanadian;2186820]Public transport:

The day ticket is 8.00 Euro and valid until 03:00 am IMHO.[/QUOTE]Yes, error after my assumption. Day ticket is valid until 3 am. Even better.

Here are some actual prices for the 2 hrs one direction tickets and for the day tickets. But no guarantee, maybe they changed on first of June.

Excuse, found it only in aleman language.

[URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/aboundtickets/einzeltickets.htm&ved=2ahUKEwjejYj6nbHbAhUBKVAKHUSCCH8QFjAAegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw3DThmjlA5dUh1pzNjz7Hd6[/URL]

[URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/aboundtickets/tageskarte.htm&ved=2ahUKEwjejYj6nbHbAhUBKVAKHUSCCH8QFjACegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2Kni2WCYf7-4ozbQUwRbsV[/URL]

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2187173]Hi guys,

I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?[/QUOTE]Hello you,

I think exactly the opposite could be the case. Consider what all the hooligans who were denied entry into Russia will do. They will overrun the Berlin Fan Mile and other places with a big public viewing all over the city such as beach bars and pubs, just to watch soccer and drinking in the sun all day long. (As well as a few others of the annually approximately 13 million Berlin tourists.).

After the final whistle a few of them could come to only one idea: "Lets go to a brothel to fuck!

As a working girl I would stay in artemis or become another new girlfriend of Christiano Ronaldo to travel for free to Russia.

I also hope that it is not empty of girls.

Hi guys!

In your opinion what is the best arrival time?

Next Thursday will be my first time in FKK and I'll be landing in Berlin at 1:30 pm but I'd like to visit Berlin beforehand.

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2187173]Hi guys,

I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?[/QUOTE]Don't worry. Berlin has always events like festivals, exhibitions, etc, also in June. I would rather stay away when really big events are on like IFA or Venus, because Arte could be very crowded then.

Hence, enjoy!

[QUOTE=EazyX;2187453]Hi guys!

In your opinion what is the best arrival time?

Next Thursday will be my first time in FKK and I'll be landing in Berlin at 1:30 pm but I'd like to visit Berlin beforehand.

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]You have plenty of time to visit the city before heading to Artemis which is the only FKK anyway. From the airport Tegel or the other shitty one you can go downtown in 30 minutes approx and see some places of interest by walk and then have plenty of time to take the train to Westkreuz station which is only 5 minutes walk from the club.

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2187173]Hi guys,

I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?[/QUOTE]No way. For many reasons starting with the visa requirement, with game venues spread over 3,000 km and all the expenses to set up for just one month, only "high class" escorts might take a chance to go to Moscow.

There have always been stories about working girls heading to countries where the Olympics or major football events happen, but it's not true and reports from the ground in past years suggest that business is slow as the locals are watching the games. In fact you might benefit as locals will be more interested in the World cup rather than go to an FKK.

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2187173]Hi guys,

I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?[/QUOTE]Your post already has a few useful replies. I'd like to add a bit. Last week I found one Russian girl in Artemis. Maybe I missed one or two, but it cannot be much. Girls from other countries will have some difficulty getting a working place in Moscow or St Pete. But there is more. If you go on a day that Germany has one of their matches, you can take advantage of the many Germans that will watch the match. Girls won't have much business than. So, you have more options. If you opt to join the Germans and watch the match the beer will be free. Either way you will win.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2187565]No way. For many reasons starting with the visa requirement, with game venues spread over 3,000 km and all the expenses to set up for just one month, only "high class" escorts might take a chance to go to Moscow.

There have always been stories about working girls heading to countries where the Olympics or major football events happen, but it's not true and reports from the ground in past years suggest that business is slow as the locals are watching the games. In fact you might benefit as locals will be more interested in the World cup rather than go to an FKK.[/QUOTE]Totally rIght. When the World Cup was staged in Germany there was little difference in the number of workers, and generally no spike in customer numbers. In fact the customers spent hours watching the matches on screens in the clubs and the girls were twiddling their thumbs. Girls will not be heading off to Russia.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2187561]You have plenty of time to visit the city before heading to Artemis which is the only FKK anyway. From the airport Tegel or the other shitty one you can go downtown in 30 minutes approx and see some places of interest by walk and then have plenty of time to take the train to Westkreuz station which is only 5 minutes walk from the club.[/QUOTE]Thanks!

I'll be coming from Schoenefeld but I guess it's almost the same.

[QUOTE=EazyX;2187840]Thanks!

I'll be coming from Schoenefeld but I guess it's almost the same.[/QUOTE]It is even easier then if you have an early morning flight back you can take the train from Westkreuz to Schonefield. Make sure you don't stay long in that airport, it is the worst in Europe!

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2187913]It is even easier then if you have an early morning flight back you can take the train from Westkreuz to Schonefield. Make sure you don't stay long in that airport, it is the worst in Europe![/QUOTE]It's really convenient! Thanks for the tips.

Why is this the worst airport in Europe?

[QUOTE=SanPedro;2187173]Hi guys,

I plan to be in Berlin on the week the World Cup starts in Russia and am afraid from a massive migration of working girls to Russia. I hope that I will not find an Artemis empty of girls. Opinions?[/QUOTE]0 risk, the girls will not take any risk to go there knowing the bad reputation of the country and authorities, they prefer to stay in Germany even the business is never good during World cup.

[QUOTE=EazyX;2188332]It's really convenient! Thanks for the tips.

Why is this the worst airport in Europe?[/QUOTE]Clearly somebody needs to visit more European airports. LOL! In Germany, try Frankfurt Hahn for example.

[QUOTE=EazyX;2188332]It's really convenient! Thanks for the tips. Why is this the worst airport in Europe?[/QUOTE]I have been there about 20 times. Schönefeld airport is the original East Germany airport. And most likely it is the best place to still "smell" the East German luxury. The arrivals area has been improved lately. The departure area depends. The area where RyanAir planes leave is not too bad. The area where EasyJet leaves is probably the best place to experience East German luxury. There is no real hall, just an isle. But I never had big problems. Maybe a delay of 45 minutes was the worst that happened. When tired and all seats are taken people sometimes sit on the floor. The airfare compensates a lot.

Haha alright I see thanks to all of you!

I can't wait to see Germany for the very first time! I don't travel often so it's new to me.

The weather will be beautiful on Thursday I'm lucky.

Have a good day guys thanks!

[QUOTE=EazyX;2188949]Haha alright I see thanks to all of you!

I can't wait to see Germany for the very first time! I don't travel often so it's new to me.

The weather will be beautiful on Thursday I'm lucky.

Have a good day guys thanks![/QUOTE]Yes, you are a lucky man indeed, the naked ladies will make you feel very welcome I can guarantee you that. I Think you said in an earlier post that you will check out Berlin before you go to Artemis, but I say go to Artemis directly, and then see if you still feel the same way.

[QUOTE=EazyX;2188949]Haha alright I see thanks to all of you!

I can't wait to see Germany for the very first time! I don't travel often so it's new to me.

The weather will be beautiful on Thursday I'm lucky.

Have a good day guys thanks![/QUOTE]Enjoy your time in Berlin and Artemis! That is where I started my tours as well (not that I have gone anywhere else than Frankfurt. LOL).

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2189035]Yes, you are a lucky man indeed, the naked ladies will make you feel very welcome I can guarantee you that. I Think you said in an earlier post that you will check out Berlin before you go to Artemis, but I say go to Artemis directly, and then see if you still feel the same way.[/QUOTE]Or go to Artemis directly for a first round then go downtown and come back with the same ticket to continue.

It's very possible that I go directly to Artemis and then later will hang out in Berlin a little bit!

You're right that's a good idea! I want to see the Branderburg Gate, Reichstag, East Side Gallery if I can see all of them that would be great!

I have one last question for you guys: how much do cost extras like CIM and bareback blowjob? I guess it depends but how much would you say? 100€ for both?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=EazyX;2189319]It's very possible that I go directly to Artemis and then later will hang out in Berlin a little bit!

You're right that's a good idea! I want to see the Branderburg Gate, Reichstag, East Side Gallery if I can see all of them that would be great!

I have one last question for you guys: how much do cost extras like CIM and bareback blowjob? I guess it depends but how much would you say? 100 for both?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Regarding Berlin tour: Take the train to Alexander platz, take your walk tour visit the Berliner Dom, and continue to the Bradenburg gate, getting the 'street feeling'. From there take another long walk to checkpoint Charlie and visit one museum about the wall (there is one just opposite checkpoint). If you have time take the Ubahn to east side gallery as you mentioned. The Reichstag is impressive but you will need time and there is also a queue this time of year.

BBBJ will cost you either free or extra 50 euro better negotiate from beginning, CIM is 50 extra, maybe DATY the same, and anal is 100 but not all girls will offer.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2189535]Regarding Berlin tour: Take the train to Alexander platz, take your walk tour visit the Berliner Dom, and continue to the Bradenburg gate, getting the 'street feeling'. From there take another long walk to checkpoint Charlie and visit one museum about the wall (there is one just opposite checkpoint). If you have time take the Ubahn to east side gallery as you mentioned. The Reichstag is impressive but you will need time and there is also a queue this time of year.

BBBJ will cost you either free or extra 50 euro better negotiate from beginning, CIM is 50 extra, maybe DATY the same, and anal is 100 but not all girls will offer.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much! That's what I'm going to do!

I haven't seen the film yet, but the trailer for the film Hotel Artemis appears to be a fairly accurate portrayal of its FKK namesake in Berlin: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqfuKsoEEm[/URL].

Yup, that trailer about sums up the club.

Was there yesterday annd first new thing I noticed is they took out the locker fee because customers have been complaining.

Sessioned with a new comer from Latvia, she is white with smooth skin, nice curves and ass, beautiful face with red lipstick and very long blond hair. It looked natural. One quirk is her small breasts but they actually fit her body and are natural, in contrary to the usual silicon zombies you usually see. She usually works at oceans in Köln area, but is at Artemis for a while, so make sure you session with her before she goes. Nice attitude and talks good English.

Fucking her nice ass is a lovely experience.

Hi all!

I am visiting Berlin from the US, and want to go to a FKK for the first time. Arrived yesterday and planning to make it to Artemis or another FKK (recommendation for first timers?) today. If anyone in the area would like to go, please PM me. Would be great to go with a fellow hobbyist to show me the ropes my first time! Happy to pay for drinks!

Thanks!

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This is the most international, ie the less Rumanian of all FKK line-ups. About 8 latinas among whom 2 Brazilians. Some interesting black skin. This is also the oldest LU, older even than GT's. MILFs with toned bodies. Not bad at all, far better than twenty somethings with poor figures!

At 80 euros the entrance is expensive though. The food is hardly better than Acapulco's. I saw no place to relax and read a book after sunset, and it seemed e-books were not tolerated judging by the paranoid posters against "phones, cameras, tablets etc. " Rather than linger all day long in the club, better venture out into the city and avail oneself of the opportunity to come back later.

[QUOTE=XXL;2191665]I saw no place to relax and read a book after sunset.[/QUOTE]Some bears read in restaurant / dining area. Not complete sure if there is enough light to read downstairs by the indoorpool during the night, may depend on your eyes. The round couch under the stairs could also work. But never tried it personally, maybe a book with XXL letters could be a solution.

Reading by the entrance should also be possible, even e-books. If not, a friendly big muscle man who is wearing an Artemis shirt would teach you what to do. (hard return).

I guess.

I didn't know the basic rate here was 60€ until a client told me so today. I thought I had been tipping the girls 10€ by giving them 60.

I had a good session with a German girl who is not at all my type, because of her Lolo Ferrari tits. I don't care either way about tits but I'd have feared such weighty appendages would hinder the girl in doggy. It turned out quite allright in the room. She had a pussy that was both tight and easy to slip in and out. She is not easy to overlook on account of her monstrous tits and her exaggeratedly siliconed lips.

After 2 visits on 2 consecutive days I rate the Artemis LU on a par with Oase's, a notch above Oase's even if you value variety and black skin. What with the 80€ entrance, the starting price at 60€ instead of 50, the crappy food and the run-down infrastructure, Oase remains better value for money.

[QUOTE=XXL;2192005]I didn't know the basic rate here was 60 until a client told me so today. I thought I had been tipping the girls 10 by giving them 60. I had a good session with a German girl who is not at all my type, because of her Lolo Ferrari tits. She is not easy to overlook on account of her monstrous tits and her exaggeratedly siliconed lips. What with the 80 entrance, the starting price at 60 instead of 50, the crappy food and the run-down infrastructure, Oase remains better value for money.[/QUOTE]Dude,

The basic rate at Artemis has been discussed long and often here. Don't know how you could have missed that. As for the girl, I think I know exactly which one you're talking about. Totally not my type either, and one of the ones at Artemis I describe as a "plastic monster" LOL! And yes, the facilities at Artemis were looking a little ratty the last time I was there. Time for some refurbishment! The last time I was in Germany, which has been awhile, Oase had the far superior line-up, but Artemis made up for it for having the number one super star of my entire trip. The one and only "Lilia"! Yes sir! No matter, if you're in Berlin, then you just have to do Artemis!

[QUOTE=XXL;2192005](...) I had a good session with a German girl who is not at all my type, because of her Lolo Ferrari tits. I don't care either way about tits but I'd have feared such weighty appendages would hinder the girl in doggy. It turned out quite allright in the room. She had a pussy that was both tight and easy to slip in and out. She is not easy to overlook on account of her monstrous tits and her exaggeratedly siliconed lips. (...)[/QUOTE]This is Jenna.

Indeed, she really stands out. I tried her as well and liked her service.

She can be recommended but indeed rather to guys who care about her dominant physical attributes.

XXL,

Your Girl with the gigantic boobs is famous Jenna.

Haven't been to Artemis since September last year oh god I miss the place! I need to come back soon, just the thought to come early afternoon and have a breakfast and then go and fuck the lovely Kisha to have the best start of the afternoon, after a couple of hours rest continue the decadence with sweet Thai girl Suna, then after dinner go with big breasted barbie doll Thai Akira after a little rest continue the orgy with the most beautiful Carrie and then to end it with a bang to fuck the tight Aileen before you head home to the hotel for some well needed sleep. I love it!

A question for the regulars, If you only go for one hour sessions will most girls then provide BBBJ? Or is it still hard to get BBBJ at Artemis?

I am asking generally not the specific goddesses mentioned in this post.

A cluster of Asians with taxi drivers in tow were hogging the front desk when I walked in, a sign that this was going to be a crowded day compared to Tuesday and Wednesday.

First a warning about German Nana. Tall, light brown skin, black eyes and long raven black hair, she looked more like a classical Spanish beauty than a teutonic one. When I whipped out my latex-free Sagami she went "wait a minute girls do not normally accept clients'condoms", a blatant lie. Then came a spiel about BBBJ which I cut short by requiring "hand-job only". She then declared DATY was not included in the 60. In a nuttshell, she wanted 100.

The girls on my to-do list had contrived either not to come to work today or to stay booked for hours. The crappy loud music and the cigarette smoke compelled me regularly to take breaths outdoors to avert a headache. In the cantine I witnessed a very ugly female member of staff being rude to a customer for having committed the heinous crime of ever so slightly misplacing a ladle.

A first Thai girl understood I was not interested in her upon my telling her I was now retired and a resident of Pattaya. A second Thai girl refused to take the hint and went away in a huff after I spelled out I was going places in Europe to do caucasian and black girls, not Asian girls. None of those 2 Thai girls had much to recommend them in the looks department.

I finally had a bang for my buck through a repeat session with Bulgarian Catarina (white-skinned, narrow-shouldered, minute tits and broad hips with delicious saddle-bags and a touch of cellulite).

Three days running at Artemis may have been too much for my declining sex-drive and my mushrooming jadedness. I'll try to stick to sightseeing tomorrow and revisit the club early on Saturday before flying away on Sunday morning. I have been stretching my pensioner's budget as it is.

I'm staying at Ibis Messe, a 10 minute's walk from Artemis, but a hotel I wouldn't recommend because it has no in-room safe. That's no problem at Artemis owing to the impeccable locker arrangements there, but what about if you want to sample Berlin's street action? Would it be all right to leave cash and credit cards unattended in the room? I came with hand-luggage only so I have no lockable suitcase to use as safe storage.

[QUOTE=XXL;2192402]In the cantine I witnessed a very ugly female member of staff being rude to a customer for having committed the heinous crime of ever so slightly misplacing a ladle. The crappy loud music and the cigarette smoke compelled me regularly to take breaths outdoors to avert a headache.[/QUOTE]I wonder if that's the same hag who called me "schwein" because I accidentally spilled some gravy? Probably LOL! I'm OK with the music, but they really, really, really need to do something about the cigarette smoke. It was really bad time last time I was there and made me (and Lilia) sick! But that was during winter when opening the windows meant allowing in too much cold for the girls. Those windows ought to be able to be opened wide by now!

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2192079]Haven't been to Artemis since September last year oh god I miss the place! I need to come back soon, just the thought to come early afternoon and have a breakfast and then go and fuck the lovely Kisha to have the best start of the afternoon, after a couple of hours rest continue the decadence with sweet Thai girl Suna, then after dinner go with big breasted barbie doll Thai Akira after a little rest continue the orgy with the most beautiful Carrie and then to end it with a bang to fuck the tight Aileen before you head home to the hotel for some well needed sleep. I love it!

A question for the regulars, If you only go for one hour sessions will most girls then provide BBBJ? Or is it still hard to get BBBJ at Artemis?

I am asking generally not the specific goddesses mentioned in this post.[/QUOTE]I have been to Artemis three times in six months and very rarely had problems receiving BBBJ. Getting it without extra payment is the difficult part. But it can be done!

I really think they should turn the volume of the Music down. In the main bar it is difficult to talk to the Girls because of the loud Music.

A few thoughts based on my experiences.

I have often stayed at the Ibis Messe and would recommend. There is no security safe but I carry my passport and cash with me and store them in the Artemis locker. I have sometimes left a tablet or laptop charging in the IBIS room and have never had a problem. The IBIS Messe is expensive when there is an event on at the Messe, so I then book into the IBIS City West which is a short metro journey away in the morning and an 8 Euro taxi back at night.

As for Kindle reading, never had a problem. My basic Kindle has a cover and I carry it openly. I find the best internal spot is the downstairs bar. Generally, the light is a little dim but there are bar side seats that are beneath spotlights that make reading easy. I have spent hours down there, happily reading my kindle and chatting to bar staff and ladies with no comments made. I think that a tablet would get a different reception and mobile phones are of course verboten.

The food in Artemis is mass catering. OK mass catering but mass catering. It doesn't pretend to be anything else.

BBBJ is available. Usually at extra cost and I suspect with chaps that the girls recognise and so are unlikely to be from the Authorities. I have received it without extra cost from ladies I see regularly. No names, no pack-drill.

It will be two weeks on Thursday when I was last at Artemis. Most of my best sessions start in the downstairs Kino. A girl approached me there, before I was ready for a girl, but we were soon in the room at the back of the Kino. As usual I asked for the standard 60 euro job. What I got was DKF and BBBJ, and followed by reverse cowgirl. All of this was unbidden. The session lasted about 15 minutes, or more, but it was short, sharp and intense. I paid 60 euro, the girl never asked for more. Later I went with a girl from Hamburg, but the session did not work. I did not blame the girl, maybe I had not recovered from the first session. I wondered if the first girl, perhaps, thought that she knew me from somewhere.

[QUOTE=Canary;2192811]I have been to Artemis three times in six months and very rarely had problems receiving BBBJ. Getting it without extra payment is the difficult part. But it can be done![/QUOTE]It depends. The girls try to take as much money as possible and it gets hard in Artemis. 3 days in Artemis in the last week and as a principle, any girl that asked for extra for this I didn't go with and will not go with. But, I must say, the football is a pleasure, food is actually quite ok recently and the place is well maintained. Not so bad overall, if you find some girls that are fair.

[QUOTE=XXL;2192005]After 2 visits on 2 consecutive days I rate the Artemis LU on a par with Oase's, a notch above Oase's even if you value variety and black skin. What with the 80 entrance, the starting price at 60 instead of 50, the crappy food and the run-down infrastructure, Oase remains better value for money.[/QUOTE]Most people get the 12 for 10 card. Making entry 66 euro. Then again, most people at Oase only pay 50 anyway. Indeed Oase is better, but Artemis has more girls and slightly better variety historically. And less chance for groups to apply club wide upselling. Kind of like Sharks in that aspect. Still Artemis is a bit high priced compared to competition in western Germany, making it less ideal for FKK travels. Only good if flights are much cheaper or you are in Berlin. Their monopoly as an FKK in Berlin lets them set the prices accordingly I guess. Like Goldentime in Vienna which has even crazier entry fee at 90 e.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2194363]Most people get the 12 for 10 card. Making entry 66 euro. Then again, most people at Oase only pay 50 anyway. Indeed Oase is better, but Artemis has more girls and slightly better variety historically. And less chance for groups to apply club wide upselling. Kind of like Sharks in that aspect. Still Artemis is a bit high priced compared to competition in western Germany, making it less ideal for FKK travels. Only good if flights are much cheaper or you are in Berlin. Their monopoly as an FKK in Berlin lets them set the prices accordingly I guess. Like Goldentime in Vienna which has even crazier entry fee at 90 e.[/QUOTE]Most people actually don't buy the 12 for 10 card. She keeps them in a box and we she opens that box you can see, it isn't so many. Still, Artemis is the most expensive club in Germany, but what choice do Berliners have.

I am flying from Copenhagen to Berlin, if I'm in good time with flight tickets I can get them for 60 euro round trip, if I want to go to Frankfurt from Copenhagen flight tickets are 350 euro so for me the decision is easy. If I choose to live in Charlottenburg then taxi is very cheap as well. In Frankfurt a few of the clubs is outside the center and if you don't wish to use public transportation like me then it gets expensive to go by taxi. Even the hotel is much cheaper in Berlin so as a tourist it's a no brainer with all what Berlin has to offer.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2194581]I am flying from Copenhagen to Berlin, if I'm in good time with flight tickets I can get them for 60 euro round trip, if I want to go to Frankfurt from Copenhagen flight tickets are 350 euro so for me the decision is easy. If I choose to live in Charlottenburg then taxi is very cheap as well. In Frankfurt a few of the clubs is outside the center and if you don't wish to use public transportation like me then it gets expensive to go by taxi. Even the hotel is much cheaper in Berlin so as a tourist it's a no brainer with all what Berlin has to offer.[/QUOTE]Ryanair flies Copenhagen. Cologne. From there you can get a rental car. But I hear you. It has been like that with me before also.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2194581]I am flying from Copenhagen to Berlin, if I'm in good time with flight tickets I can get them for 60 euro round trip, if I want to go to Frankfurt from Copenhagen flight tickets are 350 euro so for me the decision is easy. If I choose to live in Charlottenburg then taxi is very cheap as well. In Frankfurt a few of the clubs is outside the center and if you don't wish to use public transportation like me then it gets expensive to go by taxi. Even the hotel is much cheaper in Berlin so as a tourist it's a no brainer with all what Berlin has to offer.[/QUOTE]Impossible to compare both cities only one club in Berlin Artemis a real nightmare for all senior and experienced mongers, poor LU, mostly veteran bitches, sucking far more your money than your dick. In Hessen so many possibilities around, also Berlin hotels are not cheaper, overall better to find a another mean to travel to Frankfurt if your level of expectations are high.

Thank you for your advise haven't thought about that before! Cologne has a few clubs as well, do you or anyone else know if they are worth a visit?

Superwoman blond edition. That's Katrin from Poland. Green eyes, godly lips. Massive curves and a lovely ass made for fucking. Good attitude too. She wanted to come after three days of not coming. So a good DATY made her come loud, and took no extra for that. Followed by a nice BJ with eyes contact, and missionary, and finally doggy. I collapsed next to her with heart pounding like hell.

Another sessions with Gabbi from Hungary, which was nice too. But katrin takes the cake.

With that said I don't think I will come back to this club again, the trip just aint worth it for a few pearls, you might meet if you are lucky. There should be a better variety of beauties. There is some seriousely fugly biathes there with huge asses, where the f**k have FKK's come to?

Ride the waves, my friends.

Over and out.

I will soon be heading to Artemis again. Does anyone know if Akira and Suna both Thai is still around? Or are there other Asian or Latin girls on the menu nowadays?

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2200265]I will soon be heading to Artemis again. Does anyone know if Akira and Suna both Thai is still around? Or are there other Asian or Latin girls on the menu nowadays?[/QUOTE]Hi TeddyBears,

I will be there this Saturday and take a look.

Cheers!

Hi,

I am coming to Artemis next month. Is there anybody who would fuck Jenna nova with me?

[QUOTE=Mckenzy;2201065]Hi,

I am coming to Artemis next month. Is there anybody who would fuck Jenna nova with me?[/QUOTE]She is the only lady at Artemis I've seen at the bar on every visit but as she doesn't approach men I never roomed with her as for some reason she looked very intimidating!

[QUOTE=Canary;2202000]She is the only lady at Artemis I've seen at the bar on every visit but as she doesn't approach men I never roomed with her as for some reason she looked very intimidating![/QUOTE]There is a reason why she doesn't approach me men. Not have to.

She has regulars that stays long time with her at the club.

When I first saw her I thought she looked cold. But after gone with her to room she's one favorite.

[QUOTE=Mckenzy;2201065]Hi,

I am coming to Artemis next month. Is there anybody who would fuck Jenna nova with me?[/QUOTE]Check and believe her Twitter. She is now on vacation until mid-August. But you can make an appointment with her. Good service.

But instead of looking for another guy, just take a second working woman to a room and pay her to play the masculine part by wearing a fake beard and a big fat strap-on.

Hope I am helping.

[QUOTE=Mckenzy;2201065]Hi,

I am coming to Artemis next month. Is there anybody who would fuck Jenna nova with me?[/QUOTE]I would love to McKenzy, am am only visiting though so depends on dates. I am in Berlin aug 8-10 only. Jenna's latest pics on social media look GREAT, lips = lovely and bigger than ever, boobs seems to be 1800cc+ also that is bigger than ever. :-)

Canary: she SEEMS intimidating, not very interested sitting there but once you speak to her or go with her you'll see she is a very sweet and nice girl. Especially if you are into her looks and appreciate her, giving her validation.I have met her two times, both very nice.

Had a short visit yesterday, although the LU was a little down, I have managed to have 2 great sessions.

First a hot Brazilian with great butt and lovely personality, love those sleazy Latinas.

The second one was a beautiful Turkish girl, I could not resist and upgraded to one hour + ass fucking, unforgettable session.

I didn't see Jenna and there is now a free WiFi in Artemis.

There is this sex cyborg with puta tattoo on her lower back that each man she take upstairs does not last more then 10 minutes.

The LU is OK, more updates later on.

Hi all,

Any long term mongers here regarding Artemis.

Read somewhere the line up quality used to be better some 4-5 years ago, when I visited last time in Berlin. Do you agree, or is it just some posh talk with not knowing any better?

Cheers,

Justin.

Hi all,

I visited the club after 6 months and the only good difference I noticed was the electronic lockers. The line up was not good only 2-3 girls really nice between a total of 35-40 girls maximum. I had a session with one of these few girls she was from Albania, can't recall her name (started from A) but blonde hair not very long and tall with nice body. We agreed to do several things before going to the room and before starting in the room and at the end she did not do what we agreed. She was trying to upwell all the time and kept changing the tariff. Not happy at all.

The other 2 girls I tried were so so. The showers were under construction so you had to go downstairs at the pool to take a shower. The food was under average and generally I must say I was disappointed. I wasn't excited even the first time I went in January but this time it really sucked. The clubs in Frankfurt are much better so stay away, I don't really think it is worth a visit for a 80 euro entry and the service from the girls. I will not visit again, Berlin and Artemis are over, I have had enough. Artemis is over rated and not value for money anymore in my opinion.

I left Artemis 10 minuteS ago after a 6 hour visit. I am well aware that it's Tuesday and probably a few girls have vacation or are free at the weekdays. The thing is that I have only visited Artemis Sunday-Wednesday before as well, I normally visit Berlin 4-5 times a year and always visit Artemis on those visits, so about 15 visits a year normally. Have been doing this since 2009 so I am not a newbie at Artemis.

But for various reasons this was my first visit this year and I was tremendously underwhelmed by the lineup today, day and night shift combined about 60 girls only a handful of them doable in my opinion, not even one really beautiful girl! This has never happened before on my visits, I am almost in shock. On top of that I learned that all the girls charge extra 50€ for BBBJ but most of them at least do it! I am not a regular so I can't comment if it's common that Artemis lineup is this weak normally, but I can tell you it sure wasn't so weak the last 9 years visiting. First time ever I don't even have one session when visiting.

I frequently monger in Spain, and I must say with the up sell currently at Artemis I rather spend my money on the South American girls for less money.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2204848] I was tremendously underwhelmed by the lineup today,

if it's common that Artemis lineup is this weak normally, but I can tell you it sure wasn't so weak the last 9 years visiting. First time ever I don't even have one session when visiting[/QUOTE]Well, bad timing. Holiday season for the EE girls plus lingerie day.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2203532]The line up was not good only 2-3 girls really nice between a total of 35-40 girls maximum.

She was trying to upwell all the time and kept changing the tariff. Not happy at all.

The other 2 girls I tried were so so. The showers were under construction so you had to go downstairs at the pool to take a shower. The food was under average and generally I must say I was disappointed. I wasn't excited even the first time I went in January but this time it really sucked. The clubs in Frankfurt are much better so stay away, I don't really think it is worth a visit for a 80 euro entry and the service from the girls. I will not visit again, Berlin and Artemis are over, I have had enough. Artemis is over rated and not value for money anymore in my opinion.[/QUOTE]My last visit to Artemis was in 2014 and even at that time my impression was that it is over rated. Food, facilities, rooms, Line-up, service quality, value for money. So on my last visits to Berlin I skipped Artemis and waited until I got back to Frankfurt to hit the clubs.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2205027]Well, bad timing. Holiday season for the EE girls plus lingerie day.

My last visit to Artemis was in 2014 and even at that time my impression was that it is over rated. Food, facilities, rooms, Line-up, service quality, value for money. So on my last visits to Berlin I skipped Artemis and waited until I got back to Frankfurt to hit the clubs.[/QUOTE]Maybe it never was VFM. People go there because it is the only club in Berlin and the management takes advantage of this monopoly.

I've been out of the game for a couple of years. Has the artemis LU remained as varied as it was back in 2015? Can someone give me an accurate description of the types of girls present in Artemis now? Some good / bad reports here and I do like the german polish girls if anyone remembers hannah, gabi types. Thanks to all.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2205341]Maybe it never was VFM. People go there because it is the only club in Berlin and the management takes advantage of this monopoly.[/QUOTE]It was when it opened. Most girls came from other big clubs and where okay to get 60€ instead of 50€ per half hour. That lasted a few years but from 2012 it went the wrong way. My opinion.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2205920]It was when it opened. Most girls came from other big clubs and where okay to get 60 instead of 50 per half hour. That lasted a few years but from 2012 it went the wrong way. My opinion.[/QUOTE]I can see it is going the wrong way because myself saw a big difference in just 6 months. I can imagine how much better it was before a couple of years.

I was so disappointed I will never visit again in my life.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2205027]Well, bad timing. Holiday season for the EE girls plus lingerie day.

Hopefully only bad timing! But it feels like the club is slowly getting worse year by year, only my gut feeling. Well it wasn't lingerie day, that is wednesday.

My last visit to Artemis was in 2014 and even at that time my impression was that it is over rated. Food, facilities, rooms, Line-up, service quality, value for money. So on my last visits to Berlin I skipped Artemis and waited until I got back to Frankfurt to hit the clubs.[/QUOTE]Have never visit Sharks but Oase was even worse than this Artemis visit when I was there late 2015. Palace had a decent selection of good looking girls at that time but extremely pushy, almost impossible to be polite when you have turned down the same twenty girls for the sixth time in three hours time. So Frankfurt is not on my to do list in the near future.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;2205865] description of the types of girls present in Artemis now?[/QUOTE]I see a trend that tatoos are increasing and so is fakeness / barbie looks with more silicone and filled lips. I like this trend but most don't so I guess a portion of peoples perception of decline in quality is due to this trend?

I visited on the 16th. Really good weather. The outdoor area was well used but it was to hot for me to lie in the sun. I retreated to the down stairs bar intending to cool down and relax away from the girls for the first hour or so. Then this girl turned up at the bar and was talking to me. I felt my blood rise, but I was not ready for a girl. Nonetheless after 10 minutes we retired to a room. The session was short, sharp and intense. This happened to me on the last visit. After this I relaxed, for a while, not looking for a girl. Later I was looking for a girl, but could not hit on anyone. I began to feel frustrated. Many of the girls did not appear attractive to me. Something about the appearance I thought was artificial, particularly around the lips. After a while I met a girl as I came out of the downstairs Kino, at the bottom of the stairs. She had a nice natural looking face, Soon we were in the room, a good session ensued. Dissatisfaction with the line up may, have something to do with artificial looks. Maybe it was just the day or girls on holiday but I thought the line up was not as strong as on previous visits. My next visit will be next month on a Thursday.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2206322]Have never visit Sharks but Oase was even worse than this Artemis visit when I was there late 2015. Palace had a decent selection of good looking girls at that time but extremely pushy, almost impossible to be polite when you have turned down the same twenty girls for the sixth time in three hours time. So Frankfurt is not on my to do list in the near future.[/QUOTE]Currently with the upselling in Oase, Shark and other clubs, there is no big difference anymore in value for money with Artemis. When you go to clubs like Oase or Sharks where everybody knows you, you get better service vs a club they don't know you. True for most clubs. Currently, Artemis has a lot to offer, but again, it depends what you fancy. If you want the natural, new to the business, you will not find many in Artemis. The club is managed much better than Sharks and Oase. Tip top facilities and cleanliness, despite many silly tourists.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2200265]I will soon be heading to Artemis again. Does anyone know if Akira and Suna both Thai is still around? Or are there other Asian or Latin girls on the menu nowadays?[/QUOTE]Sorry for the late response. I can't recall names like Akira or Suna. However during my visit I saw one to two Thais, as well as a few other Asians and Latinas. I'd say the overall lineup had about 70 to 80% European WGs and the rest might be equally distributed to Asians and Latinas. A few Asians may not have the typical look, e. G. Elisa who looks more oriental.

Friday and Saturday could be the preferred days for spotting some (relatively) more Asians and Latinas. On other days one might see a comprised variety.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2206591]. The club is managed much better than Sharks and Oase. Tip top facilities and cleanliness, despite many silly tourists.[/QUOTE]I don't know what you mean by saying better management but a selection of nice girls in their club should be a top priority for the management and I don't see that in Artemis. Not to mention the under average food or the lack of a non smoking area.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2206591]Currently with the upselling in Oase, Shark and other clubs, there is no big difference anymore in value for money with Artemis. When you go to clubs like Oase or Sharks where everybody knows you, you get better service vs a club they don't know you. True for most clubs. Currently, Artemis has a lot to offer, but again, it depends what you fancy. If you want the natural, new to the business, you will not find many in Artemis. The club is managed much better than Sharks and Oase. Tip top facilities and cleanliness, despite many silly tourists.[/QUOTE]I think you are spot on in your comments. Over the years spent in Artemis I have developed a 'deeper' relation with 12-15 girls that I try to see if possible, and as you write with these ladies I get better service then the average customer would get. On my visit last Tuesday I was unlucky because none of these girls were working, and this has never happened to me before.

I think we all understand the girls try to charge more if they can, after all it's about money not love for them. But and its a BIG but I wonder if it's not contra productive simply because if it's get to expensive then many of their customers will spend their money elsewhere. I for one will never spend €50 extra for bareback BJ, but I would accept to spend more time in the room to receive better service. I will be back in Berlin late November if price level stays the same by then, then I will probably not go back to Berlin and Artemis in a few years.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2206775]I don't know what you mean by saying better management but a selection of nice girls in their club should be a top priority for the management and I don't see that in Artemis. Not to mention the under average food or the lack of a non smoking area.[/QUOTE]Like I said, Artemis is not the place for the natural 18 years olds, but has many many beauties. Girls are a matter of taste. Artemis has an entire floor down stairs of non smoking, what in the world are you talking about? Please don't confuse with incorrect information. I don't really think much of what you see and don't as it seems like you have never been to Artemis when you say no non smoking area. Girls at Artemis are top notch, just no 18 years old that are new to the business. Artemis has two real issues: outdoor is not green (nice to have some grass), girls are more expensive. Is overall sharks for example more diverse, yes. But depends what one is searching.

I visited Artemis 2 years back. Is the general price per hour still 60 Euros for a 30 min fuck & suck or do you need to haggle with girls now?

Highly recommended reading for those curious about the consequences and follow-up from the June, 2017 Artemis raid:

[URL]https://www.donacarmen.de/die-artemis-razzia-in-berlin-und-ihre-folgen/[/URL]#more-704.

Use Google translate if you do not speak German. Fascinating article with many good points.

Article written by the attorney that is bringing the constitutional challenge against the "new" July, 2017 Prostitution Law.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2207116]Like I said, Artemis is not the place for the natural 18 years olds, but has many many beauties. Girls are a matter of taste. Artemis has an entire floor down stairs of non smoking, what in the world are you talking about? Please don't confuse with incorrect information. I don't really think much of what you see and don't as it seems like you have never been to Artemis when you say no non smoking area. Girls at Artemis are top notch, just no 18 years old that are new to the business. Artemis has two real issues: outdoor is not green (nice to have some grass), girls are more expensive. Is overall sharks for example more diverse, yes. But depends what one is searching.[/QUOTE]Yes there is a non smoking area downstairs but what do you prefer? To be downstairs watching the studs lying by the swimming pool but having some fresh air, or upstairs in the lounge where the fun is supposed to be with the girls but with all the smoke around you? And ohhh yes there is a non smoking area in the toilets as well!

To sum up my issue is not mainly the non smoking area but the service the club provides. It is one of the most expensive with low quality service, robot girls and shity food. I agree with you that at the end of the day it depends on what you are searching but I think the girls is in the top search for all of us. Palace in example has better girls but it lacks of an outdoor area. But I will take the girls first. I don't want to start a fight if Artemis is good or bad but for me it is history.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2207354]Highly recommended reading for those curious about the consequences and follow-up from the June, 2017 Artemis raid:

[URL]https://www.donacarmen.de/die-artemis-razzia-in-berlin-und-ihre-folgen/[/URL]#more-704.

Use Google translate if you do not speak German. Fascinating article with many good points.

Article written by the attorney that is bringing the constitutional challenge against the "new" July, 2017 Prostitution Law.[/QUOTE]Super interesting. Thanks.

It gets too silly half way through. Couldn't finish reading it. Of course they are mainly right here, but the silliness is the framing by the activist groups and the labeling of words such as slavery. By this definition any job is slavery. And in a way it is. But then you cannot exclusively attack prostitution.

Coining it on rules set by management is probably the main problem I have with their approach. As if these rules are negative towards abuse, instead of positive towards integrity. Any job requires integrity, but the activist groups doesn't like integrity.

Unless of course they go too far with these rules. In Artemis's case they might have with one rule: no meeting with customers outside the club. But then again, the girl who told me of this rule could have been lying to me also. But those types of rules, probably made to avoid market loss should be attacked by the police. Just not with 900 policemen, LOL. A warning should suffice if that was it.

Now the girl who went to the cops probably had a story nobody can discuss here at least. And the media shouldn't even mention situations where information is classified due to the mass suggestion of assumptions it afflicts.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2207354]Highly recommended reading for those curious about the consequences and follow-up from the June, 2017 Artemis raid:

[URL]https://www.donacarmen.de/die-artemis-razzia-in-berlin-und-ihre-folgen/[/URL]#more-704.

Use Google translate if you do not speak German. Fascinating article with many good points.

Article written by the attorney that is bringing the constitutional challenge against the "new" July, 2017 Prostitution Law.[/QUOTE]Just confirming what I am writing many times, this club is owned by the HA, behind the scene the things are far less sexy, like in all the clubs, only the very naive guys are still thinking that the girls are in the clubs because they like sex. The things are getting worse and worse, probably 80 percent of the girls are pimped, or married or have a stable BF.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2207354]Highly recommended reading for those curious about the consequences and follow-up from the June, 2017 Artemis raid:

[URL]https://www.donacarmen.de/die-artemis-razzia-in-berlin-und-ihre-folgen/[/URL]#more-704.

Use Google translate if you do not speak German. Fascinating article with many good points.

Article written by the attorney that is bringing the constitutional challenge against the "new" July, 2017 Prostitution Law.[/QUOTE]Many mongers just believe the reality doesn't exist because they don't like this reality.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2207354]Highly recommended reading for those curious about the consequences and follow-up from the June, 2017 Artemis raid:

[URL]https://www.donacarmen.de/die-artemis-razzia-in-berlin-und-ihre-folgen/[/URL]#more-704.

Use Google translate if you do not speak German. Fascinating article with many good points.

Article written by the attorney that is bringing the constitutional challenge against the "new" July, 2017 Prostitution Law.[/QUOTE]Al-salaam Sayyid Happy. Nice article. With all these raids in Germany, any other industry would have shrivelled up and died by now. Could it be that FKKs actually serve a real human need?

But I don't have much sympathy for Artemis. They were managing the girls so badly, long before the raids started. My favorite theory is that there was an important politician or big police chief who used to go there regularly for pleasure. Then the girls started to treat him disrespectfully as they did everybody else. One day he felt so humiliated that he ordered that a thousand cops descend on Artemis. I know that's the way I used to feel. (Fortunately for the world I don't possess that kind of power. My emotions would generally cool down after an hour or two anyway.).

Instead of trying to kill Artemis by force, they should let the competition thrive. It is insane that only one FKK is allowed to rule the roost in Berlin, which is twice as big as any other German city. And also insane that Artemis managed to do so badly even with its monopoly status.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2207532]Al-salaam Sayyid Happy. Nice article. With all these raids in Germany, any other industry would have shrivelled up and died by now. Could it be that FKKs actually serve a real human need?

But I don't have much sympathy for Artemis. They were managing the girls so badly, long before the raids started. My favorite theory is that there was an important politician or big police chief who used to go there regularly for pleasure. Then the girls started to treat him disrespectfully as they did everybody else. One day he felt so humiliated that he ordered that a thousand cops descend on Artemis. I know that's the way I used to feel. (Fortunately for the world I don't possess that kind of power. My emotions would generally cool down after an hour or two anyway.).

Instead of trying to kill Artemis by force, they should let the competition thrive. It is insane that only one FKK is allowed to rule the roost in Berlin, which is twice as big as any other German city. And also insane that Artemis managed to do so badly even with its monopoly status.[/QUOTE]I don't believe that they are getting any protection it is just impossible in many European countries, probably half of the clubs will close in Germany in the coming 5 years. No politician will take the risk to be seen visiting a FKK.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2207532] With all these raids in Germany, any other industry would have shrivelled up and died by now. [/QUOTE]German customs, authorities and police are performing dozens of checks / controls around labor regulations in many industries every day. Especially on construction sites they will check workers for their permission to work, their legal status, being self-employed or not and if they are paid minimum wage. So no, those raids are not specific for the P6 industry. But those make better headlines.

After a 15 mos absence from Berlin I took an afternoon trip to Artemis this afternoon. Yes, a hot Weds afternoon isn't the best time to attend, but it was my only free time this trip. Slim selection of ladies, but I found two worth sessioning with.

Jane, claims to be German, 30's, with reasonable sized silicones and a tight slim figure. BBBJ was an extra 50, but included kissing and DATY. Good unrushed room on a hot afternoon.

Forget the name of the second girl; says she's Iranian but born in Hamburg. Same as above; 50 e extra for BBBJ, kissing, and DATY, but a nice no upsell session beyond the tariff for what used to be standard.

I'll keep Frankfurt and Dusseldorf as my primary German destination, but for a quick afternoon delight, not too bad.

FoF.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2207368]Yes there is a non smoking area downstairs but what do you prefer? To be downstairs watching the studs lying by the swimming pool but having some fresh air, or upstairs in the lounge where the fun is supposed to be with the girls but with all the smoke around you? And ohhh yes there is a non smoking area in the toilets as well!

To sum up my issue is not mainly the non smoking area but the service the club provides. It is one of the most expensive with low quality service, robot girls and shity food. I agree with you that at the end of the day it depends on what you are searching but I think the girls is in the top search for all of us. Palace in example has better girls but it lacks of an outdoor area. But I will take the girls first. I don't want to start a fight if Artemis is good or bad but for me it is history.[/QUOTE]Information should be provided by those who know what they are talking about. 6 of current Artemis girls moved in the recent year from Palace. Another 4-6 girls are there from Hamburg clubs. Another 6-7 girls previously worked in clubs like GT and LR. And, we have two from world and Oase as well as girls from Sharks. These are top quality girls mostly. What do I prefer doesn't matter, it matters what other people prefer, I just give them accurate information.

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] Toilets are not as huge as the downstairs area. No different almost from Oase non smoking area (the small area in the lounge is kind of mixed). So information should be provided by people who know what they are talking about regarding a certain club, you are not one of those people. Artemis girls lie oiled in the sun and swim in the pool (4-8 girls depending on the day). The go downstairs regularly to pick up guys from the cinema and wellness area. It is not a fight it is just addressing and correcting your misleading non sense, so people that actually like that type of girls and don't mind the added cost, don't miss out on a great experience.

Visited on Saturday night (29 July) and met an awesome brunette. She said her name was Jay, 27 years old, and from the Middle East but I can't remember if she got more specific than that. She's tallish with a tight body, nice ass, beautiful medium-big natural tits with pierced nipples, and filled lips. She was sweet and a real pro and the sex was great. After a short blowjob we fucked cowgirl, missionary, and doggie. Has anyone else met her or knows anything more about her? Would love to see her again.

Next was a Dominican girl with humongous natural tits and a terrific ass. I think her name was Maria? (Or maybe Salome? Or her friend's name was Salome?) Can't remember, I should've paid more attention. She was kind of a pain in the ass, constantly trying to upsell. I must have said no ten times. But I'm a sucker for huge tits so I went for it. No regrets but wouldn't repeat, once was enough.

Had to head home early but good day overall.

FormulaOneFan.

The Iranian girl from Hamburg is probably Lara, she wanted me to pay €250 for an hour everything included I declined her proposal.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2195502]Thank you for your advise haven't thought about that before! Cologne has a few clubs as well, do you or anyone else know if they are worth a visit?[/QUOTE]Didn't see this question before now as I checked up on my last posts in the thread (pretty sure I posted one that is not around where I mentionned around 20 artemis girls I have seen at palace / sharks / gt / paradise. So the type of girls are almost identical to these other clubs. Sharks may have slightly different girl crowds, but the other 3 are like a mirror).

In cologne I have only been to Samya, and its ok. Many western guys enjoy the party atmosphere at Samya. Especially Americans for some reason. It reminds me of the American customer oriented gogo's in Angeles, philippines kinda. For me as a European, I consider other clubs atmosphere slightly better. But with rental car from cologne, both dusseldorf and the entire nrw plus hessen is very close. The drive from cologne airport to sharks is at 1 h 52 m on google maps. But you can beat that time by 7 minutes or so.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2207892]FormulaOneFan.

The Iranian girl from Hamburg is probably Lara, she wanted me to pay 250 for an hour everything included I declined her proposal.[/QUOTE]That sounds right. She didn't proposition me for that much money though, but it was early afternoon on a slow hot afternoon.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2208167]That sounds right. She didn't proposition me for that much money though, but it was early afternoon on a slow hot afternoon.[/QUOTE]If anal is included it is not a bad deal.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2207892]FormulaOneFan.

The Iranian girl from Hamburg is probably Lara, she wanted me to pay 250 for an hour everything included I declined her proposal.[/QUOTE]Probably a Turkish girl like many, I don t believe there is any Iranian girl in a FKK, so many cheating girls around.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2208167]That sounds right. She didn't proposition me for that much money though, but it was early afternoon on a slow hot afternoon.[/QUOTE]She normally offers an hour for 200, all included. And, yes has to be Lara as her prices are the most agressive in the club along with one other girl who charges the BBBJ 50 extra for every half hour.

Lara's service isn't great and she comes from palace. Normally, palace girls can give excellent service for the right money, but IMO not that one.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2208192]She normally offers an hour for 200, all included. And, yes has to be Lara as her prices are the most agressive in the club along with one other girl who charges the BBBJ 50 extra for every half hour.

Lara's service isn't great and she comes from palace. Normally, palace girls can give excellent service for the right money, but IMO not that one.[/QUOTE]Generally I play the longer game and scope out the talent more thoroughly before selecting, but I was on a short timeframe so I didn't have time to be super duper picky. Service was fine overall though with both ladies;. Better than just a suck and fuck session, but far from the best.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2208689]Generally I play the longer game and scope out the talent more thoroughly before selecting, but I was on a short timeframe so I didn't have time to be super duper picky. Service was fine overall though with both ladies;. Better than just a suck and fuck session, but far from the best.[/QUOTE]She isn't bad, just not worth so much money and is a bit distant in the room. She does do a good job in the pick up stage, which can be misleading. I fell for it, so LOL. But no repeat. For that kind of money, it is possible to find great sessions with real beauties in Artemis as well as in most other clubs. But in Berlin Artemis is the only club choice.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2208896]She isn't bad, just not worth so much money and is a bit distant in the room. She does do a good job in the pick up stage, which can be misleading. I fell for it, so LOL. But no repeat. For that kind of money, it is possible to find great sessions with real beauties in Artemis as well as in most other clubs. But in Berlin Artemis is the only club choice.[/QUOTE]Yep, Artemis is the only FKK game in town for Berlin, so you take what you can get. My usual stomping grounds are Sharks and Oase in Frankfurt and I have many regulars at those clubs that give solid sessions with no drama or upsell. Considering I had a small window of time, I'm happy with the outcome. .

The regular entry fee will be reduced to only 60 euros on 20th and 21th of August 2 k18.

Nice to know I know. But without a guarantee.

250/200 € an hour. We are far from the 120€ for an hour. It seems things are changing.

I'll see it by myself at the end of the month and probably go in a room with a regular one if the upsells are crazy with the new ones.

[QUOTE=HDN2015;2211981]250/200 an hour. We are far from the 120 for an hour. It seems things are changing.

I'll see it by myself at the end of the month and probably go in a room with a regular one if the upsells are crazy with the new ones.[/QUOTE]Things have changed, of course. But 200/250 an hour is the high point for everything included and still high. You can do 120 no extras. Or 170 with 1 extra that is for some people crucial.

I will be in Dresden the 29 of August, I can see that Artemis has a Pool party that day, do you guys think it can be worth the two hours of driving to Berlin for a visit.

I have never before visit Artemis for such "party" day.

Don't know if it's good or bad.

In fact it's more than two years since my last visit at Artemis.

I spent three days at Artemis in mid July and enjoyed it. The facilities are very nice, with two pools (outdoor and indoor). Compared with Oase, Samya, Sharks, and GT-Vienna, the lineup is more varied internationally (girls from all over), though a bit older. The average age for the girls I chose was probably 26. It wasn't my favorite club for lineup (Samya and Oase were), but it also wasn't my least favorite (surprisingly, Sharks was). I had fun and it broadened my perspective about suitable girls.

[QUOTE=FlyByCable;2212363]I will be in Dresden the 29 of August, I can see that Artemis has a Pool party that day, do you guys think it can be worth the two hours of driving to Berlin for a visit.

I have never before visit Artemis for such "party" day.

Don't know if it's good or bad.

In fact it's more than two years since my last visit at Artemis.[/QUOTE]If you are set on an FKK day, the yes, it is worth the drive, especially considering the alternatives in Dresden.

Can you give us more info on the number of germans and the number of all-natural big-boobers (D+)?

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2212749]I spent three days at Artemis in mid July and enjoyed it. The facilities are very nice, with two pools (outdoor and indoor). Compared with Oase, Samya, Sharks, and GT-Vienna, the lineup is more varied internationally (girls from all over), though a bit older. The average age for the girls I chose was probably 26. It wasn't my favorite club for lineup (Samya and Oase were), but it also wasn't my least favorite (surprisingly, Sharks was). I had fun and it broadened my perspective about suitable girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FlyByCable;2212363]I will be in Dresden the 29 of August, I can see that Artemis has a Pool party that day, do you guys think it can be worth the two hours of driving to Berlin for a visit.

I have never before visit Artemis for such "party" day.

Don't know if it's good or bad.

In fact it's more than two years since my last visit at Artemis.[/QUOTE]What a coincidence. I will be there also same date. I sent PM.

What to say about Artemis these days? I do wonder why the club seems unable to attract more girls. A club like this with such a massive customer base should be a magnet to girls wanting to make money. But somehow it isn't, and average age continues to rise. There are a few doable girls around still, but I just don't see why this club isn't booming more than it does in terms of lineup.

When that is said, girls at Artemis seems to strictly follow the CBJ game now. With +50 e for the BBBJ. And I did a room at Artemis this time that was so bad I was wondering afterwards how I really could have hated my money so much! (Turk German girl) It was on a Monday with limited lineup at least. On Wednesday it was markably better, and I could avoid the mines more easily.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2211668]The regular entry fee will be reduced to only 60 euros on 20th and 21th of August 2 k18.

Nice to know I know. But without a guarantee.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about Artemis here? Because it surely was the old rates on entry on Monday 20th Aug. Unless I got scammed by receptionist.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2215521]What to say about Artemis these days? I do wonder why the club seems unable to attract more girls. A club like this with such a massive customer base should be a magnet to girls wanting to make money. But somehow it isn't, and average age continues to rise. There are a few doable girls around still, but I just don't see why this club isn't booming more than it does in terms of lineup.[/QUOTE]Maybe the fact that Artemis got busted by police big time and girls do not want to be involved in such event where it is risk for exposure about their job as prostitute which a lot of time girls family do not know that she is prostitute.

Plus many fly in clients stop going there due to too much up sell and bad line up.

Artemis got all the negative spiral now.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2215637]Maybe the fact that Artemis got busted by police big time and girls do not want to be involved in such event where it is risk for exposure about their job as prostitute which a lot of time girls family do not know that she is prostitute.

Plus many fly in clients stop going there due to too much up sell and bad line up.

Artemis got all the negative spiral now.[/QUOTE]Artemis has strict rules regarding which girls can work there, must talk German, if they sleep in the club, OK otherwise must be registered and show documents. Must get checked every 3 months. Also, Artemis doesn't have a client base, that would imply regular customer, which Artemis doesn't have so many. Artemis cater to tourist. The LU is great, it just doesn't cater to those that search 18-20 year old. Artemis is not in any sort of downward spiral, I am not sure when you last visited, but it is doing pretty well. The only thing is that fresh meet is not readily available on the menu.

Maybe, but these things usually normalise over time.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2215604]Are you talking about Artemis here? Because it surely was the old rates on entry on Monday 20th Aug. Unless I got scammed by receptionist.[/QUOTE]I'm selling my soul just for a post. Other guys know better then me about doing so. Why should I talk about FKK "Tralala" in the Artemis thread?

Last week I've read on "Fkk24. De" the information that the bar area is going to be upgraded / renovated on the dates I mentioned and because of that the bar is out of use these two days. And since Artemis is, no matter what some say, at least a bit customer orientated the entry fee was going to be reduced.

Since these two particular days are past, the information isn't online anymore. I am looking like a shameless liar now. "Oops"!

If you didn't recognize that some work was going on, then the renovation was cancelled, or shifted, or was already been done, or I was fooled by "Fkk24. De". I don't know. But since management is reading they could lighten up the confusion. If they see a reason to do so.

I don't think that you were scammed. But of course I hope you didn't traveled all the way to Berlin to save 20. But out of your reports you were successful in having fun and even returned two days later again.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2215637]Maybe the fact that Artemis got busted by police big time and girls do not want to be involved in such event where it is risk for exposure about their job as prostitute which a lot of time girls family do not know that she is prostitute.

Plus many fly in clients stop going there due to too much up sell and bad line up.

Artemis got all the negative spiral now.[/QUOTE]It is more like a cheap (regarding quality) super market of average girls. The last time I went (been twice) it was even worse than first, the LU was very poor with a lot of upselling, the food sucked and the showers where under construction so you had to keep walking down the stairs to get washed. The girls provided bad quality, not to mention that they all do blow jobs without condoms. This is what they told me when I mentioned that it is not allowed. Worst club I have ever been with the most expensive entrance and the worst value. And now I know someone is going to pop up telling me again I don't know what I am talking about.

I visited again on the 18th, a Thursday. The line up was better than last time, on a Teusday. There were a good number of girls with good figures. The line up got better as the evening progressed. I was getting ready to leave about 20.00 hrs, and was just enjoying the general ambience and watching the action when an attractive blond with a statuesque figure turned up. Initially I mistook her for another blond girl (Czech), with a similar figure. I had already had two good sessions and thought that my visit was about over. This blond came over to me and she was warm and encouraging (half German). This was to good to miss so I invited her to a room. Another good session. I never experienced any upsell in my visit. If I politely declined a girl, she took it well. I enjoy the outdoor and indoor facilities at Artemis. Artemis was designed and constructed for the purpose for which it is used. This may be a unique feature among FKK's. I liked the new showers. I went to the restaurant at 18.00 hrs and the food was good. A selection of beef, chicken or lamb, with suitable accompaniments was offered. For me, Artemis continues to be a good place to pick up girls.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2215823]I'm selling my soul just for a post. Other guys know better then me about doing so. Why should I talk about FKK "Tralala" in the Artemis thread?

Last week I've read on "Fkk24. De" the information that the bar area is going to be upgraded / renovated on the dates I mentioned and because of that the bar is out of use these two days. And since Artemis is, no matter what some say, at least a bit customer orientated the entry fee was going to be reduced.

Since these two particular days are past, the information isn't online anymore. I am looking like a shameless liar now. "Oops"!

If you didn't recognize that some work was going on, then the renovation was cancelled, or shifted, or was already been done, or I was fooled by "Fkk24. De". I don't know. But since management is reading they could lighten up the confusion. If they see a reason to do so.

I don't think that you were scammed. But of course I hope you didn't traveled all the way to Berlin to save 20. But out of your reports you were successful in having fun and even returned two days later again.[/QUOTE]I didn't say you were lying, it just seemed a bit odd.

There were no renovations, although one girl mentioned to me that she was hoping for new lockers. The girls still have the old ones, while us customers have brand new ones since a few months ago it seems.

I returned 5 days later, and not 2. If I had based anything off of my Monday visit, I would have gone sightseeing instead, or to some weird Berlin kink club (LOL). My Wednesday visit was however quite good indeed.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2215885]It is more like a cheap (regarding quality) super market of average girls. The last time I went (been twice) it was even worse than first, the LU was very poor with a lot of upselling, the food sucked and the showers where under construction so you had to keep walking down the stairs to get washed. The girls provided bad quality, not to mention that they all do blow jobs without condoms. This is what they told me when I mentioned that it is not allowed. Worst club I have ever been with the most expensive entrance and the worst value. And now I know someone is going to pop up telling me again I don't know what I am talking about.[/QUOTE]In matter of personal preference, you can't be wrong as it is subjective. Artemis is probably the most expensive club with Germany, so value for money is, again, subjective. But, you are not a frequent visitor, so your sample size is not significant enough to reflect club culture. For me the worst club ATM is Palace prices are either in line or more expensive. 5 euro entry difference is negligible. The facility itself in Artemis is great and clean. Girls are a matter of taste, like mentioned before not many 18-22 year old. At the moment, Artemis is a little more expensive: 15 euro entry and 10 euro per half hour over other clubs. For two hours in total in the room, that's 55 euro more per visit, not to bad for me. But need to know how to get that golden extra with no charge and then you are fine. You want guaranteed service and guaranteed good time, go to globe.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2216074]In matter of personal preference, you can't be wrong as it is subjective. Artemis is probably the most expensive club with Germany, so value for money is, again, subjective. But, you are not a frequent visitor, so your sample size is not significant enough to reflect club culture. For me the worst club ATM is Palace prices are either in line or more expensive. 5 euro entry difference is negligible. The facility itself in Artemis is great and clean. Girls are a matter of taste, like mentioned before not many 18-22 year old. At the moment, Artemis is a little more expensive: 15 euro entry and 10 euro per half hour over other clubs. For two hours in total in the room, that's 55 euro more per visit, not to bad for me. But need to know how to get that golden extra with no charge and then you are fine. You want guaranteed service and guaranteed good time, go to globe.[/QUOTE]I forgot to say in previous posts that the most beautiful girl in the club is a brunette working in the bar. She was so beautiful and sweet I was sitting in the bar staring at her for an hour. I kept ordering drinks just to look at me. I told her she was the best in the club and she smiled. I wish she was in the LU.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2216218]I forgot to say in previous posts that the most beautiful girl in the club is a brunette working in the bar. She was so beautiful and sweet I was sitting in the bar staring at her for an hour. I kept ordering drinks just to look at me. I told her she was the best in the club and she smiled. I wish she was in the LU.[/QUOTE]I think that you don t sessioned her, this is the life today in the clubs the most beautiful girls are not the prostitutes'

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2216218]I forgot to say in previous posts that the most beautiful girl in the club is a brunette working in the bar. She was so beautiful and sweet I was sitting in the bar staring at her for an hour. I kept ordering drinks just to look at me. I told her she was the best in the club and she smiled. I wish she was in the LU.[/QUOTE]She is beautiful. If that is your type, then Artemis is not for you. She is Romanian. Looks a little German.

Artemis should be the best major club in Germany- but its one of the worst! It is in Berlin which is probably Europe's- if not the world's- best city for partying. I love Berlin. Artemis is centrally located and easy to get to by public transport. It even has a higher entry fee and is 60/30. To be fair when I first went there about 5 years ago the beauty level of the girls were as good as at any other major club (see my report from back then) and the atmosphere was probably the best party atmosphere. It still has a great party atmosphere at the long bar (I'd visit it now for that and for the outside jacuzzi and pool and it's wellness facilities). Unfortunately the main reason FKKs exist is for sex with beautiful girls and that is what, in my eyes at least, has been sorely missing from Artemis for the last 3 times went there. The upselling doesn't bother me as it happens in every German club to some extent, but the problem is the average girl here is more likely to be a woman in her mid 30's with plastic tits and loads of tattoos who has been in this business for a decade and is like a washed up boxer who used to be good! I don't want to pay 60/30 for girls I wouldn't even date for free. ! Of course, that's the average girl so there will be *some* attractive girls who are under 30 - preferably under 25 - slim, natural breasts, very little tattoos; the problem is many of these tend to be booked or you have to spend a lot of time trying to find them.

Would I visit Artemis next time I am in Berlin? Possibly especially in summer just for the fun party atmosphere but I'd probably visit one of the brothels or get an escort beforehand! If some beautiful slim young 20 year old Romanian did come to Artemis she would be the undisputed queen and could make a lot of money- so I wonder why that doesn't happen? The management of Artemis should take a look at Sharks, Oase, Palace, or even go to any of the Hamburg clubs or pop in to Globe and have a look at the kind of girls high-paying mongers like.

Last I heard she was in Artemis Berlin.

Does anyone know if she is still there, because I will be in Berlin shortly?

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2216695]Last I heard she was in Artemis Berlin.

Does anyone know if she is still there, because I will be in Berlin shortly?[/QUOTE]Have not seen her in Artemis, not recently and not at all. Why do you think she is there?

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2216544]Artemis should be the best major club in Germany- but its one of the worst! It is in Berlin which is probably Europe's- if not the world's- best city for partying. I love Berlin. Artemis is centrally located and easy to get to by public transport. It even has a higher entry fee and is 60/30. To be fair when I first went there about 5 years ago the beauty level of the girls were as good as at any other major club (see my report from back then) and the atmosphere was probably the best party atmosphere. It still has a great party atmosphere at the long bar (I'd visit it now for that and for the outside jacuzzi and pool and it's wellness facilities). Unfortunately the main reason FKKs exist is for sex with beautiful girls and that is what, in my eyes at least, has been sorely missing from Artemis for the last 3 times went there..[/QUOTE]Personal opinion is understandable. And, true, Artemis doesn't have many girls of that type you mention. But the extreme statement is also not true, most girls are not mid 30's. Also, that type wouldn't be a star there, it is a tourist club and a club for mostly young tourists, and this they like that look. Now many many girls at the moment relocated from Heesen and NRW clubs. Also, you can group Sharks and Palace as similar clubs or Globe. You are mixing oil and water. Palace is the mother of all porn star girls. Sharks has a healthy mix tending towards the natural girls. Just a false statement.

Granted Artemis is the exact opposite of sharks for girls type (less naturals). Artemis is also very strict with girls documentation rules and other clubs less. I can tell you for a fact that not all clubs check registration of girls. Therefore, they can get different types.

You can find everything in Artemis, just some things are scars. The upselling is the issue. But you don't care, I don't also. I don't like that it is full with tourists that want to party. It kills the relax atmosphere.

I also result to privates when I have nothing to do in the club, but I do that in sharks too, so. It really isn't that bad. Especially, in current times where girls from all over come to Artemis. You project a point in time of a visit (s) onto always.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2216695]Last I heard she was in Artemis Berlin.

Does anyone know if she is still there, because I will be in Berlin shortly?[/QUOTE]I thought she only had a short stint at Artemis. Last time I saw her was at Palace before summer, probably May or June.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2216739]I thought she only had a short stint at Artemis. Last time I saw her was at Palace before summer, probably May or June.[/QUOTE]I even asked today one girls who was friendly with her in sharks and she didn't know what I was talking about. Last I know was also palace.

Swedish guy who gave me his card that I lost due to stolen robe last Tuesday 11 days ago, please PM me. Yes I know I said I don't write here, LOL. (I guess you are someone here).

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2216695]Last I heard she was in Artemis Berlin.

Does anyone know if she is still there, because I will be in Berlin shortly?[/QUOTE]I did a session with her in Artemis about a month ago.

I was in Artemis last week end. From my point of view, the LU was poorer than before, maybe this is an effect of leaving of many German Women or summer period. I talked with a German woman who told me 70% of the pool are made of Romanian and Bulgarian women. Thus it tends to be like the other German clubs. I met a pretty German blonde woman who offered me a 30 min package at 100 euros. I replied that I preferred the standard one, because I'd like to see other women. She said OK and the session was good. I globally spent less than before in the club as and I felt bored in the middle of the night.

I was in Artemis last week end. From my point of view, the LU was poorer than before, maybe this is an effect of leaving of many German Women or summer period. I talked with a German woman who told me 70% of the pool are made of Romanian and Bulgarian women. Thus it tends to be like the other German clubs. I met a pretty German blonde woman who offered me a 30 min package at 100 euros. I replied that I preferred the standard one, because I'd like to see other women. She said OK and the session was good. I globally spent less than before in the club as and I felt bored in the middle of the night.

I went Wed night, It was Pool Party night. All the girls were in bikinis. The 80 cover incl 2 mixed drinks. They had BBQ also, but only chicken and Pork. This was my first visit to Artemis. For the size of this place, I was expecting more Women. There were some very good looking ladies. I eventually picked a very sexy Romanian Babe. Had lots of fun in the room with her, all the usual acronyms incl. Very expensive night with the cover and the extras in the room.

[QUOTE=HDN2015;2217484]I was in Artemis last week end. From my point of view, the LU was poorer than before, maybe this is an effect of leaving of many German Women or summer period. I talked with a German woman who told me 70% of the pool are made of Romanian and Bulgarian women. Thus it tends to be like the other German clubs. I met a pretty German blonde woman who offered me a 30 min package at 100 euros. I replied that I preferred the standard one, because I'd like to see other women. She said OK and the session was good. I globally spent less than before in the club as and I felt bored in the middle of the night.[/QUOTE]To get bored happen to many of us, that it is why I enjoy a lot the sauna, and I am extremely selective for the girls, even I can easily leave without any session, so easy to return the next day for me.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2218801]I went Wed night, It was Pool Party night. All the girls were in bikinis. The 80 cover incl 2 mixed drinks. They had BBQ also, but only chicken and Pork. This was my first visit to Artemis. For the size of this place, I was expecting more Women. There were some very good looking ladies. I eventually picked a very sexy Romanian Babe. Had lots of fun in the room with her, all the usual acronyms incl. Very expensive night with the cover and the extras in the room.[/QUOTE]How much did you pay for all the usual acronyms incl?

I had some decent times in Artemis in 2014 and 2015. However while visiting Berlin, I popped in for a look around 17:00. This seems worse than Palace in Frankfurt, a heavily tattooed German Mild with black dyed hair told me 100 Euros for a very good 30 minutes. The experience was more like the cheating they do in the Amsterdam RLD to avoid fucking. She destroyed my mood and insisted I was not hard so we could not fuck. Avoid her and I am not returning to Artemis for a long time.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2218924]I had some decent times in Artemis in 2014 and 2015. However while visiting Berlin, I popped in for a look around 17:00. This seems worse than Palace in Frankfurt, a heavily tattooed German Mild with black dyed hair told me 100 Euros for a very good 30 minutes. The experience was more like the cheating they do in the Amsterdam RLD to avoid fucking. She destroyed my mood and insisted I was not hard so we could not fuck. Avoid her and I am not returning to Artemis for a long time.[/QUOTE]I stopped going to Artemis in 2015, it is a shame because from 2009 till 2014 ish, Artemis was good club, but after that line up is left with old tattoo plastic surgery girls with too heavy up sell.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2218924]I had some decent times in Artemis in 2014 and 2015. However while visiting Berlin, I popped in for a look around 17:00. This seems worse than Palace in Frankfurt, a heavily tattooed German Mild with black dyed hair told me 100 Euros for a very good 30 minutes. The experience was more like the cheating they do in the Amsterdam RLD to avoid fucking. She destroyed my mood and insisted I was not hard so we could not fuck. Avoid her and I am not returning to Artemis for a long time.[/QUOTE]Same conclusion I came to a couple of years ago. Stick to it.

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[QUOTE=MrHo;2218991]I stopped going to Artemis in 2015, it is a shame because from 2009 till 2014 ish, Artemis was good club, but after that line up is left with old tattoo plastic surgery girls with too heavy up sell.[/QUOTE]Call me Mrs. Ho honey. You forgot your visit in December 2016 again.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1988560]I saw both of them during first week of December, so they are still in the game, but I do not know if they are currently there now, sorry.[/QUOTE]And this one in 2017.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1989320]Well I am going in two weeks in February, so I hope LU is back from holiday then.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2218867]How much did you pay for all the usual acronyms incl?[/QUOTE]170 for the hour.

I actually like 'fake' looking girls and MILFs. Were there any curvy / big butt (not fat girls last time when you've been at Artemis?

I had an amazing experience in that club in May 2017. Also an australian asian guy told me who had a 2 weeks sex vacation in Germany told me that he found Artemis to be the best of the german clubs.

So this is how wide, taste can differ.

Now to the behaviour below:

Please guys, let's do each other a favor and call out those ladies:

A) Here with name and description. Let's put an "AVOID Monika (or whatever her chosen nickname is)" into the subject. And describe what happened briefly.

ALSO.

B) go to the desk / reception and tell your bad experience with the girl. Many receptions will tend to trust customers, esp if some girls are often accused of bad service. This way the desk can simply refuse entrance to them. They will do it to avoid any long-term damage to the club.


[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2218924]I had some decent times in Artemis in 2014 and 2015. However while visiting Berlin, I popped in for a look around 17:00. This seems worse than Palace in Frankfurt, a heavily tattooed German Mild with black dyed hair told me 100 Euros for a very good 30 minutes. The experience was more like the cheating they do in the Amsterdam RLD to avoid fucking. She destroyed my mood and insisted I was not hard so we could not fuck. Avoid her and I am not returning to Artemis for a long time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2219414]I had an amazing experience in that club in May 2017. Also an australian asian guy told me who had a 2 weeks sex vacation in Germany told me that he found Artemis to be the best of the german clubs..[/QUOTE]I am not so sure that the management will support the customer if he complains. I have heard about stories when he is usually kicked out of the club.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2216996]I did a session with her in Artemis about a month ago.[/QUOTE]Was in Artemis 3 days this week. She was not there. Had a chat with reception who checked the log and said she was not and isn't there. If she was there by chance, then it was just a day or two.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2219414]I had an amazing experience in that club in May 2017. Also an australian asian guy told me who had a 2 weeks sex vacation in Germany told me that he found Artemis to be the best of the german clubs.

So this is how wide, taste can differ.

Now to the behaviour below:

Please guys, let's do each other a favor and call out those ladies:

A) Here with name and description. Let's put an "AVOID Monika (or whatever her chosen nickname is)" into the subject. And describe what happened briefly.

ALSO.

B) go to the desk / reception and tell your bad experience with the girl. Many receptions will tend to trust customers, esp if some girls are often accused of bad service. This way the desk can simply refuse entrance to them. They will do it to avoid any long-term damage to the club.[/QUOTE]This is of course my point of view, however I have been to quite a few clubs over the last 6 years through out Germany. So I can compare with many other places and I have been to Artemis in the past during 2014 and 2016 when in my opinion it was a lot better.

It was not only this girl whose name I did not catch, she was the only one I sessioned with, I did get a bad vibe from a lot of the girls and this comes from experience. I met a very pretty Brazilian German girl who seemed nice I asked her if she kissed, straight out no, I asked her about BBBJ, and she said straight out no, not even for an additional charge.

Looks are in the eye of the beholder, although I do not strictly agree with this, however service levels are more easily to compare and Artemis is a lot worse than other clubs in general and it has deteriorated quite a bit.

I do not know the extent of your experiences in FKK land, but a lot of experienced mongers tend to agree on this one.

Of course you can have a good time at any club provided you find the right girl and in the past I was there for hours late into the night and I found the right person and it was good, at that time I used to wonder why people gave Artemis a bad rap.

Let me summarize why, because all things being equal, the average service level sucks compared to other clubs, I have been to Oase and Palace in Frankfurt and it was a lot better at both every single time than this time at Artemis.

So I think you are mistaken and it is not the matter of the odd girl but a certain service culture that this club perpetuates. Some people pay bundles and then report great experiences, well that is not a fair comparison. I like comparing 50 Euro 30 min sessions to 50 Euro 30 minute sessions (I know Artemis is more) and 100 Euro 1 hour sessions to 100 Euro 1 hour sessions.

Now I have heard about Artemis lately, and she did promise to provide a great time for 100 Euros 30 minutes, I gave in stupidly and then she did the Amsterdam RLD, you are not hard enough trick after doing the best to kill my mood. So that is quite a lot of cheating. After her promise, when I stupidly went with the flow, she started with no kissing, not even on the cheek and then no doggy style I have to make sure you are hard and so on.

Black dyed hair, very thin a bit loose skin, 32 years old, tattoos all over the place, a small but flabby ass, which she had managed to conceal from me. I chose too hastily and could only be there a short time. But the vibe was not at all good. Normally I think I would not have fallen for her approach. Oh well, I can make the odd mistake.

In comparison, in all my times in Sharks, I have had only one bad experience out of maybe 12 different girls.

Another bad sign is that if a girl was in Switzerland, she told she had been there for a short time, and did not last long there, that usually means she did not fit the bill for Swiss service standards.

Good report Delta.

If this shit keeps up, the new sex dolls are going to make Artemis obsolete. Thanks you as I was considering trying it out as an excuse to see Berlin. Fuck that place.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2219658]Good report Delta.

If this shit keeps up, the new sex dolls are going to make Artemis obsolete. Thanks you as I was considering trying it out as an excuse to see Berlin. Fuck that place.[/QUOTE]According to all recent reviews including my experience (twice) the place really sucks. So many people can't be wrong.

Artemis kicks them out directly if a client will say he had that offer or BBBJ service. True, Artemis, is more expensive than most clubs in Germany. I think comparing 30 min for 60 euro at Artemis to 30 minutes for 50 euros in other clubs as Artemis does not charge 50 euros, but 60 euros. True, in other clubs your chances are better to get good service for 30 minutes, but not as high as they used to be. Kissing and BBBJ service starts at 100 normally. 30 minutes clients have no reason to go to Artemis. No chance to get good service. And, they are not likely to get great service anywhere unless they are repeat clients that girls know. To enjoy Artemis, you must be a 1 HR client and be willing to pay 120 - 200 euro, depending on the girl. With Romanians one has greater chances for good service for 120-150 euro. Germans, no less than 150, if you are lucky. For 200, 1.5 hours, I get outstanding service at Artemis and no unnecessary extras are charged. Artemis is a great club for certain type of clients. Also True, it was better 2 years ago, price wise and service, again, it depends what type of client you are. That said, being better two years ago doesn't make it bad now. This is a tourist place. BTW, Sharks and Oase were much better two years ago as well. World improved marginally after a huge decline, but far away from the 3 years ago level. Clubs are declining and that is a trend and a fact. If you are a 50 euro client, go to World, best chances for good service. Artemis should be evaluated based on that standard as it is not a 50 euro or a half type of club. Even at smaller clubs like Harmony, you will pay 100 for 30 minutes of good service and still, you should do a DD on the girl before because if you are a tourist, she might pull a fast one on you. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2219414]I had an amazing experience in that club in May 2017. Also an australian asian guy told me who had a 2 weeks sex vacation in Germany told me that he found Artemis to be the best of the german clubs.

So this is how wide, taste can differ.

Now to the behaviour below:

Please guys, let's do each other a favor and call out those ladies:

A) Here with name and description. Let's put an "AVOID Monika (or whatever her chosen nickname is)" into the subject. And describe what happened briefly.

ALSO.


B) go to the desk / reception and tell your bad experience with the girl. Many receptions will tend to trust customers, esp if some girls are often accused of bad service. This way the desk can simply refuse entrance to them. They will do it to avoid any long-term damage to the club.[/QUOTE]If a Asian guy living in Australian is telling it, it must be true like the existence of Jesus. I have nothing to add with my only 700 FKK visits in most of the clubs in Germany.

"Now I have heard about Artemis lately, and she did promise to provide a great time for 100 Euros 30 minutes, I gave in stupidly and then she did the Amsterdam RLD, you are not hard enough trick after doing the best to kill my mood. So that is quite a lot of cheating. After her promise, when I stupidly went with the flow, she started with no kissing, not even on the cheek and then no doggy style I have to make sure you are hard and so on. ".

Interesting review. I will be frequenting the Berlin scene on a very regular basis over many years to come. So, if this is the status of Artemis now, I will certainly avoid this place, even though I loved it back in 2007 and the following years. If management is hell-bent on destroying their own business, nobody can save them. I'll try Kaufmich or whatever escort agency is around.

I had a chance to visit Berlin earlier this summer. Sessioned with Lydia and later Amy, giving them each an hour. Not sure what Lydia is; probably Romanian, maybe Hungarian, not German though. Skinny and cute in a mousy sort of way with dark hair and glasses and a kind of squeaky voice. Amy says she is German and from Stuttgart. Blonde, pretty, lean, and natural. Overall great body. Not a price gouger. I'd been with both on a previous trip last year but didn't remember how I liked either of them and didn't even realize I'd had Amy before until I approached her and she insisted I was familiar.

Lydia was nothing special; pretty unenthusiastic. Probably won't repeat again unless I'm desperate for options.

Amy was great though. If I had her last year I'm surprised I don't remember. Maybe she considers me a repeat customer now and gave me a better performance than before. Really felt like a good GFE with her initiating round 2 before I even thought I was ready. I actually went back a couple days later just for another hour with her and it was another great session.

I know there's a lot of unhappiness here about the LU and I have to agree for the most part. The only reason I decided to share today is because I think Amy is an excellent counter-example to a lot of the complaints, but probably the only one.

[blue]Why are you reviewing non stop other member's posts? Write you own reports if you have a different story. You are not going to change their opinion. And to say other members are lying is argumentative. People sometime confuses names, time, day or wherever.

A3[/blue]

[QUOTE=Danny227;2219976][blue]Why are you reviewing non stop other member's posts? Write you own reports if you have a different story. You are not going to change their opinion. And to say other members are lying is argumentative. People sometime confuses names, time, day or wherever.

A3[/blue][/QUOTE]Because people lie to make a point. They don't know a girl or visit a club once in a blue moon and provide bad reputation or false information. False information is why I write what I write. Is that not the reason we are writing here? To review and provide fellow poster correct information?

[blue]Do that but in a better way. Not offending others.

A3[/blue]

Anyone seen Avril at Artemis lately? She's a skinny, pale Romanian with dyed red hair.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2220195]Because people lie to make a point. They don't know a girl or visit a club once in a blue moon and provide bad reputation or false information. False information is why I write what I write. Is that not the reason we are writing here? To review and provide fellow poster correct information?

[blue]Do that but in a better way. Not offending others.

A3[/blue][/QUOTE]I believe in being blunt. False posters are the worst, but I don't want to have this discussion anymore. It is what it is.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2219355]170 for the hour.[/QUOTE]That's a good price to a great time in a one hour session at Artemis. Some girls don't room for 50, but for 150, the give heavenly service. The alternative is privates where girls charge 150-200 an hour. At least here, we can talk and choose. Paid double this in Globe last month, but can't beat the service at Globe. Worth every penny.

[QUOTE=LouieDePalma;2219805]"Now I have heard about Artemis lately, and she did promise to provide a great time for 100 Euros 30 minutes, I gave in stupidly and then she did the Amsterdam RLD, you are not hard enough trick after doing the best to kill my mood. So that is quite a lot of cheating. After her promise, when I stupidly went with the flow, she started with no kissing, not even on the cheek and then no doggy style I have to make sure you are hard and so on. ".

Interesting review. I will be frequenting the Berlin scene on a very regular basis over many years to come. So, if this is the status of Artemis now, I will certainly avoid this place, even though I loved it back in 2007 and the following years. If management is hell-bent on destroying their own business, nobody can save them. I'll try Kaufmich or whatever escort agency is around.[/QUOTE]The Hell Angels are managing the club, and they have other problems today that Artemis.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2219709] For 200, 1.5 hours, I get outstanding service at Artemis and no unnecessary extras are charged. .[/QUOTE]Okay, fine, I'll spend 200 euros for 1. 5 hours. But are we going to spend these 1. 5 hours in the room? Certainly I won't do that. I've seen a number of clients enjoy their lady for like 30 minutes before going to the room, then go to the room for another 30 minutes, have a shot or two, then spend another 30 minutes enjoying her in the bar. I'm not sure what kind of service this is. Is it the GF experience? What should I exactly tell the lady if this is what I want? (enjoying the 1. 5 hours around Artemis with her, not just in the room. Maybe in the kino and on the bar too).

Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2220732]Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?[/QUOTE]There are some ladies that are booked for hours for some clients. Usually they are very beautiful and have this diva attitude drinking only champagne etc. I met one of these ladies in Palace. She was booked for 8-9 hours to a company of 2-3 men, every 2-3 hours one was fucking her for maybe 20 minutes and all other time was spent in the bar drinking and pretending they are having a 'fun party' time. So yes I guess they also sell a bar GFE experience to customers but not all of them, it depends to the girl.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2220732]Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?[/QUOTE]I wish "the sex part" only took me 15 minutes, I would save a bloody fortune!

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2220732]Okay, fine, I'll spend 200 euros for 1. 5 hours. But are we going to spend these 1. 5 hours in the room? Certainly I won't do that. I've seen a number of clients enjoy their lady for like 30 minutes before going to the room, then go to the room for another 30 minutes, have a shot or two, then spend another 30 minutes enjoying her in the bar. I'm not sure what kind of service this is. Is it the GF experience? What should I exactly tell the lady if this is what I want? (enjoying the 1. 5 hours around Artemis with her, not just in the room. Maybe in the kino and on the bar too).

Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?[/QUOTE]It depends what you like in the room. Not all people take only 15 minutes. But, I can tell you that a 1.5 hour session involve maximum wasted 10 minutes for toilet or a cigarette break. The act of service that is not limited to netto sex (also no massage), take up most of the session. That said, you still need to do your DD with the girl, but very high chances at this rate for top service. The only thing is, one must like the Artemis type girls, less natural 18-22. Some people only need half an hour, in that case Artemis is difficult for them and it is really not the best club for them to go to. A good half an hour service starts at 100 and you still need to search good to find a trustworthy girl. I ask the same normally the opposite question, whatvcan a person do in half an hour? It is over before it begins.

[QUOTE=Canary;2220797]I wish "the sex part" only took me 15 minutes, I would save a bloody fortune![/QUOTE]Absolutely agree with that statement. But, I still like it when it take so long, I just wish that maybe half the tines will take me less and I will also save a fortune.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2220732]Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?[/QUOTE]All this "must have long session" is just silly. Was explained long time back, and still applies (as of 6 days ago - testing brand new sexy upstairs bar):

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1702812&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1702812.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2220954]All this "must have long session" is just silly. Was explained long time back, and still applies (as of 6 days ago - testing brand new sexy upstairs bar):

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1702812&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1702812.[/QUOTE]Scroll to Post 7576,4 April 2015 "30 Min GFE".

Glad to notice you're still alive, Nooky Ninja. - By the way: Didn't spot Vegas at our Big A for a long, long time.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2219709]For 200, 1.5 hours, I get outstanding service at Artemis and no unnecessary extras are charged. Artemis is a great club for certain type of clients. [/QUOTE]For that deal you can get good service at almost an Club with almost every girl.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2222083]For that deal you can get good service at almost any Club with almost every girl.[/QUOTE]Nice to hear a different perspective. I still aim for excellent service for a rate of under 50 per 30 minutes (or 60 were I to go to Artemis). :)

Thank you Danny 227 for explaining so clearly why I have not visited Artemis recently: 100 for 30 minutes to get decent service is not for me. Whilst I willingly pay several 100 to a girl it is not when 100 for 30 is the starting point

Cheers

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2222083]For that deal you can get good service at almost an Club with almost every girl.[/QUOTE]I agree with RN and this is one of the many reasons I am not going to visit Artemis again in my life. I can get much better service with even less with pretty girls in Palace or Mainhattan which have also cheaper entrance and better facilities besides the girls.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1702812]Well there are many theories about many things but after several thousand years at the Fick Fabrik, RB can say it all boils down to chemistry. If you take your time, choose well, are clean and smell nice, and exhibit just a little charm and respect (hiding your diploma from the Conan the Barbarian School of Etiquette),...

there is absolutely no problem experiencing and enjoying DFK and DATY in a 30 min session.

You just need to click with a girl, feel the vibe, and not be shy about walking away if all does not feel right. Some girls are not comfortable there, or even with their bodies, and the whole Artemis deal is just putting in the time to get the Euros. You need to develop a sense of this, and avoid. But most are friendly, and also want to have a pleasant time; they do not have rules about what they will feel in 30 min vs 1 hours. You just have to tune in to what makes them tick, and somehow create a mood that you are not just another stupid tourist with a cock. And reality being what it is, sometimes a girl will simply not find you sufficiently attractive to kiss or let you lick her or whatever. It has nothing to do with "service" (itself a highly subjective concept); it just happens, and even lots more Euros won't change it. So you just roll with it, and decide if knowing this, you still want to carry on. RB would not, but many are happy enough with an optifick so that's fine for them. Common sense, really.

It does take a little practice, but really not so much as just take the time up front to talk, do a little light touching, and get things in synch, basically seducing each other, vs just grabbing an item off the shelf in a supermarket.

I have been surprised many times with real passion, even with girls who have a kind of cool, distant, tough, even intimidating personna, like Vegas, Lena, Sariah, or Lea or even some of the late Team Abdul gang. You can have a roaring good time for 30 min if you just slow it down, get things right at the beginning, and with a little talking up front before you head off, the 30 min is actually 45 or so. Just toward the closing of the deal, be clear what you want if there are deal breakers, and don't zimmer if the vibe is dubious. The good times are easy if you make the girl feel comfortable, and it's not that difficult.[/QUOTE]Wow! One of the best advice post I have ever seen. I personally already try to do the same, but this post really reminded me why I was failing some recently. Great suggestions well written. Thanks Nooky Ninja for referring to this old post.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1702812]Well there are many theories about many things but after several thousand years at the Fick Fabrik, RB can say it all boils down to chemistry. If you take your time, choose well, are clean and smell nice, and exhibit just a little charm and respect (hiding your diploma from the Conan the Barbarian School of Etiquette),...

there is absolutely no problem experiencing and enjoying DFK and DATY in a 30 min session.

You just need to click with a girl, feel the vibe, and not be shy about walking away if all does not feel right. Some girls are not comfortable there, or even with their bodies, and the whole Artemis deal is just putting in the time to get the Euros..[/QUOTE]I suppose at the end of the day it's just a bit of common sense really!

Being clean is vital, being interesting helps and more importantly respectful to the lady. The chances of having a great session are then hugely improved, it's just a few simple rules of etiquette.

Of course with some ladies it doesn't matter what you do or say but with a bit of intelligence it's not difficult to "weed out" these poor providers.

There will be occasions when you make a mistake but generally I've had many many more successes than failures.

Surely picking the right girl is all part of the package of fun at these clubs?

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2222083]For that deal you can get good service at almost an Club with almost every girl.[/QUOTE]Of course. Even for less. But I am only referring to good service at in Artemis, that is how it works there. 30 minutes, you'll pay 100 and girls will rush you out of the room in 10-15 minutes. So you need minimum one hour not to be rushed. A good one hour is no less then 150-170.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2222139]Nice to hear a different perspective. I still aim for excellent service for a rate of under 50 per 30 minutes (or 60 were I to go to Artemis). :)

Thank you Danny 227 for explaining so clearly why I have not visited Artemis recently: 100 for 30 minutes to get decent service is not for me. Whilst I willingly pay several 100 to a girl it is not when 100 for 30 is the starting point

Cheers[/QUOTE]Even 100 doesn't guarantee good service at Artemis. Other clubs in Germany are better value for money, but if you are in Berlin for business or you live there, you have not so many choices, so that's the price.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2222234]Even 100 doesn't guarantee good service at Artemis. Other clubs in Germany are better value for money, but if you are in Berlin for business or you live there, you have not so many choices, so that's the price.[/QUOTE]Correct. Incalls in Berlin can be exploitative (in my experience), and are spread out, so one can take a hour to travel and then have to walk away when quoted ridiculous prices. Some members have done great at Insomnia and partytreffs but that is not my style. Streetwalkers worked best for me. So you are right, if already in Berlin Artemis sets the price and service.

Has the pricing really been changed so much in the past 12 months? Last May I was enjoying 30 min for 60 e. And wasnt rushed. Nor experienced any upselling. But again, this maybe different, if you are obviously a foreigner. - I would also charge sex tourists more. As they have no choice.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2222234]Even 100 doesn't guarantee good service at Artemis. Other clubs in Germany are better value for money, but if you are in Berlin for business or you live there, you have not so many choices, so that's the price.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Danny227;2222234]Even 100 doesn't guarantee good service at Artemis. Other clubs in Germany are better value for money, but if you are in Berlin for business or you live there, you have not so many choices, so that's the price.[/QUOTE]Makes me wonder how come there isn't another FKK club in Berlin or even near Berlin just like Frankfurt in example? I mean it is the capital of Germany ffs!

I don't think prices have changed. This was always a guide-price, the actual price was left to the girls.

Some, will of course try and charge more if they think they can or they don't fancy the punter.

The 'banning' of BBBJ has provided them with an opportunity to sell at a premium that which used to be free.

However, you can haggle or refuse.

Seems to be getting rather hysterical.

Agree! Wondered about that too. I think it may have to do with strong libanese families running the show. And intimidating any other launch attempts. But this still begs the questions why the same owners of Artemis have not launched two establishements. One in the east part and one in the west part (Artemis)?

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2222488]Makes me wonder how come there isn't another FKK club in Berlin or even near Berlin just like Frankfurt in example? I mean it is the capital of Germany ffs![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2222536]Agree! Wondered about that too. I think it may have to do with strong libanese families running the show. And intimidating any other launch attempts. But this still begs the questions why the same owners of Artemis have not launched two establishements. One in the east part and one in the west part (Artemis)?[/QUOTE]Hakim and Kenan are not Lebanese. They are Turkish / Kurdish. They had several plans for extending their business which never got converted.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2222586]Hakim and Kenan are not Lebanese. They are Turkish / Kurdish. They had several plans for extending their business which never got converted.[/QUOTE]I was thinking that Artemis is owned by the HA, it is at least what is written on the German forums.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2222586]Hakim and Kenan are not Lebanese. They are Turkish / Kurdish. They had several plans for extending their business which never got converted.[/QUOTE]There was a plan in potsdam to open other big FKK and I think it began the constructing, but it never made it to complete. This was not by the owner of Artemis though.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2222478]Has the pricing really been changed so much in the past 12 months? Last May I was enjoying 30 min for 60 e. And wasnt rushed. Nor experienced any upselling. But again, this maybe different, if you are obviously a foreigner. - I would also charge sex tourists more. As they have no choice.[/QUOTE]New rules let girls say, that a good half hour is 100. Of course you can say, OK 60 no extra, but then it will be even worst. Girls got so used to 10-15 minutes for 100 that they don't like anything else. You might get lucky, but I doubt it. People that like longer sessions get better service and price at this point is not so different from other clubs (I don't consider 20-30 euros a big difference).

[QUOTE=Danny227;2222234]Even 100 doesn't guarantee good service at Artemis. Other clubs in Germany are better value for money, but if you are in Berlin for business or you live there, you have not so many choices, so that's the price.[/QUOTE]No private, no escorts. Some escorts in Germany are for 150/ h, when at least 120 at Artemis.

I was in Artemis last week end, tried to negotiate a BBBJ. The lady explained me why it's so complicate right now. But anyway, some German women had left, some are new, other women are still rude and will never see my money. Artemis is a good club, but the new rules lead me to go often in Spain than the last year.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2222804]New rules let girls say, that a good half hour is 100. [/QUOTE]One opinion. Fine.

But as Dude Lebowski said. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c[/URL].

All this money service competition theory stuff exhausting-and been said now 1000 times. ISG thread become Rain Man playground.

Ninja rarely have problem with 60 EU, 30 min super mega GFE service if choosing right. Maybe he got game, or maybe is just simple, decent fellow who also like to give girl pleasure. Even if ugly & 82 years old.

"Service" concept somehow odd. It is all just chemistry. Everybody different so fine. Basta.

So enough now. Maybe we can just return to point - help others, get useful reports with actual names.

Phariser we count on you as sage of Westkreuz. Ninja retire to Osaka cave, again.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2223018]One opinion. Fine.

But as Dude Lebowski said. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c[/URL].

All this money service competition theory stuff exhausting-and been said now 1000 times. ISG thread become Rain Man playground.

Ninja rarely have problem with 60 EU, 30 min super mega GFE service if choosing right. Maybe he got game, or maybe is just simple, decent fellow who also like to give girl pleasure. Even if ugly & 82 years old.

"Service" concept somehow odd. It is all just chemistry. Everybody different so fine. Basta.

So enough now. Maybe we can just return to point - help others, get useful reports with actual names.

Phariser we count on you as sage of Westkreuz. Ninja retire to Osaka cave, again.[/QUOTE]In Artemis, I can tell you exactly which 3-6 girls you can choose that will give you that service. Most people want the better quality girls. Artemis ate greedier than in any other club in Germany. You get nothing for 60 from a good girl. Other clubs in Germany chances are better. Overall, 50 euro days are done. Girls don't care about chemistry, so people can rationalize how they want what they want, but at the end it is all about money for them, otherwise if the chemistry is so good, she can just do it for free. Don't be naive. Opinions are one thing, statistics is another.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2223217]In Artemis, I can tell you exactly which 3-6 girls you can choose that will give you that service. Most people want the better quality girls. Artemis ate greedier than in any other club in Germany. You get nothing for 60 from a good girl. Other clubs in Germany chances are better. Overall, 50 euro days are done. Girls don't care about chemistry, so people can rationalize how they want what they want, but at the end it is all about money for them, otherwise if the chemistry is so good, she can just do it for free. Don't be naive. Opinions are one thing, statistics is another.[/QUOTE]That is a good point there about chemistry although very hard to find not only in Artemis but all clubs. I have talked with many men in the clubs and all (including me) want more than a quick rabbit fuck. It is not exactly a GFE experience because this is usually too fake to be true but that 'click' between a WG and the client. No we don't go there to fall in love but we still want a girl to male us desire her. All those ladies with the fake boobs the horrible tattoos and the look 'fuck me now because I want your money' are not desirable, at least to me. I see a lack of chemistry in FKKs to be honest.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2223399]That is a good point there about chemistry although very hard to find not only in Artemis but all clubs. I have talked with many men in the clubs and all (including me) want more than a quick rabbit fuck. It is not exactly a GFE experience because this is usually too fake to be true but that 'click' between a WG and the client. No we don't go there to fall in love but we still want a girl to male us desire her. All those ladies with the fake boobs the horrible tattoos and the look 'fuck me now because I want your money' are not desirable, at least to me. I see a lack of chemistry in FKKs to be honest.[/QUOTE]In that case don't fuck prostitutes, most of the Romanians girls have BF or are married, they fucked everyone just what matters is the money.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2223217]Artemis ate greedier than in any other club in Germany. You get nothing for 60 from a good girl. Other clubs in Germany chances are better. Overall, 50 euro days are done. Girls don't care about chemistry, so people can rationalize how they want what they want, but at the end it is all about money for them, otherwise if the chemistry is so good, she can just do it for free. Don't be naive. Opinions are one thing, statistics is another.[/QUOTE]Ninja know Artemis. Live in Berlin, make several thousand visits over 13 years (and know well other clubs in DE). Not at all naive-but thanks for asking. Do not want pissing contest but you confuse your "true statistics" with your subjective experience / opinion. You have very aggressive view of world-clear in many of your posts. Fine if it works for you. In Ninja opinion, after a lot of experience-this hard, commercial view is just wrong. Maybe not for you, ok. Maybe not for Thomas Hobbes. But not true for Ninja and not true for many others.

There are always (as you yourself say) 5-10 girls who are just great-and who want chemistry and pleasure also. Certainly 5-10 per day-which is more than enough for most mortals. True in any club. True in any real world bar. You must simply find. Plenty enough for a long, good stay. Of course there are sharks. Like in real world, attraction is selective and subjective, both ways. But if you have not noticed, not exactly like all visiting men are such gems either. No one under any illusion that FKK Clubs anything but fundamentally a fuck factory. But, nevertheless...

Ninja can only say, for the rest, if you just slow down, be pleasant, choose well, get a good vibe...

It is not problem to find great, passionate girls and great time for 30 min, 60 Eur.

If you cannot experience this, you do something wrong.

Wrong choice, too fast choice, not enough talk before, too aggressive in room, too much stuff in your head, etc. Must just relax, have reasonable expectations. Ask girls about their experience - so many men just go in room and start grabbing, think "I paid, you suck and fuck. Now". It has to be a mutual seduction. Common sense. Of course long session can be nice. Real girlfriend can also be nice. Villa, Porsche and yacht and real girl friend even nicer. But if you are short on time and money - 30 min can still be great.

Do not see such a great change over years. Sometimes of course line up better than other times. Girls move around. Clubs go up and down and up and down. No question things have changed a little after new law, but true everywhere. And actually after a year, things settling down almost back to normal. Almost.

Please now we finish this, we all relax, and go back to make useful, positive reports for others. With names. Topic is exhausted here or can continue in lounge. Peace.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2223585]Ninja know Artemis. Live in Berlin, make several thousand visits over 13 years (and know well other clubs in DE). Not at all naive-but thanks for asking. Do not want pissing contest but you confuse your "true statistics" with your subjective experience / opinion. You have very aggressive view of world-clear in many of your posts. Fine if it works for you. In Ninja opinion, after a lot of experience-this hard, commercial view is just wrong. Maybe not for you, ok. Maybe not for Thomas Hobbes. But not true for Ninja and not true for many others.

There are always (as you yourself say) 5-10 girls who are just great-and who want chemistry and pleasure also. Certainly 5-10 per day-which is more than enough for most mortals. True in any club. True in any real world bar. You must simply find. Plenty enough for a long, good stay. Of course there are sharks. Like in real world, attraction is selective and subjective, both ways. But if you have not noticed, not exactly like all visiting men are such gems either. No one under any illusion that FKK Clubs anything but fundamentally a fuck factory. But, nevertheless..[/QUOTE]Not a contest. I too live in Berlin mr. Ninja. I to visited Artemis and many other clubs in Germany. I am really sorry that you view my disagreement as an aggressive view. And as a frequent visitor you should already know this for a fact, girls are providing a service for money. Anything else is naive. Now, if you are extremely good looking or have some other trait, then tou might be an outlier, meaning you might get a treatment that other people don't get, so you might be special- I am not being ironic, so in all seriousness maybe you have some sort of an allure that others do not have. That said, it is statistics not only my experience, girls don't give clients the world in the room for 50 or 60 euro. These girls have "boy friends" and "husbands. " Who are we as clients exactly. Like I said, you might be special or your set of requirements in Tues. Room is lower, but moat people don't get the world for 50 or 60 euro. For sure not in Artemis. BTW, why tou refer to yourself in third person?

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2223018]Phariser we count on you as sage of Westkreuz. Ninja retire to Osaka cave, again.[/QUOTE]Nonono. Already retired. I'm insulting people, according to Mr. Danny227. Bye-bye.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2223018]One opinion. Fine.

But as Dude Lebowski said. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c[/URL].

All this money service competition theory stuff exhausting-and been said now 1000 times. ISG thread become Rain Man playground.

Ninja rarely have problem with 60 EU, 30 min super mega GFE service if choosing right. Maybe he got game, or maybe is just simple, decent fellow who also like to give girl pleasure. Even if ugly & 82 years old.

"Service" concept somehow odd. It is all just chemistry. Everybody different so fine. Basta.

So enough now. Maybe we can just return to point - help others, get useful reports with actual names.

Phariser we count on you as sage of Westkreuz. Ninja retire to Osaka cave, again.[/QUOTE]This is actually quite interesting, people that speak about themselves in third person and at the same time use "we" instead of I normally have some inferiority issues normally coupled with a degree of intimacy issues. I think I will withdraw at this point as I don't want to further escalate your situation. I'm sure that if you out your mind to I, you basic charm will get you all the chemistry you need to get everything for 60 euros. Good luck mate. Didn't mean to offend you, sincerely.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2223613]Not a contest. I too live in Berlin mr. Ninja. I to visited Artemis and many other clubs in Germany. I am really sorry that you view my disagreement as an aggressive view. And as a frequent visitor you should already know this for a fact, girls are providing a service for money. Anything else is naive. Now, if you are extremely good looking or have some other trait, then tou might be an outlier, meaning you might get a treatment that other people don't get, so you might be special- I am not being ironic, so in all seriousness maybe you have some sort of an allure that others do not have. That said, it is statistics not only my experience, girls don't give clients the world in the room for 50 or 60 euro. These girls have "boy friends" and "husbands. " Who are we as clients exactly. Like I said, you might be special or your set of requirements in Tues. Room is lower, but moat people don't get the world for 50 or 60 euro. For sure not in Artemis. BTW, why tou refer to yourself in third person?[/QUOTE]Hey guys,

I will be visiting Berlin this weekend, from Saturday (Sep. 13) to Wednesday morning. My plan was to hang out and check out the hotness at FKK Artemis during those days, maybe also check out a partytreff / gangbang venue. Is there anyone planning on being at Artemis between Saturday. Wednesday? It would be great to meet any fellow mongers who may be planning to be at Artemis during those days and would be nice to have some help in which girls provide good service, or if anyone wants to a double tag team with a girl (LOL do the girls at FKK do that?

Also, any recommendations for good gangbang venues in Berlin? Mostly I would be interested in a venue that has moderately to hot looking girls, even if it's expensive.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Danny227;2223903]This is actually quite interesting, people that speak about themselves in third person and at the same time use "we" instead of I normally have some inferiority issues normally coupled with a degree of intimacy issues. I think I will withdraw at this point as I don't want to further escalate your situation. I'm sure that if you out your mind to I, you basic charm will get you all the chemistry you need to get everything for 60 euros. Good luck mate. Didn't mean to offend you, sincerely.[/QUOTE]Ninja has warrior code-must refer to self in 3rd person. Not sure what "out your mind to I" means, but must be profound smart phone auto remark. Also of course Ninja suffer from deep inferiority and intimacy issues. Glad you share my "delicate situation" (as my secret therapist) with entire forum, and then do not mean to offend. Interesting jujitso strategy. Would hate to see real insult.

But for world, Danny later write nice PM and and Ninja excerpt from exchange (Ninja slip out of 3rd person, due to drugs).

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We just have very different experiences-for whatever the reason I can tell you that chemistry is THE thing. I am a very normal, plain looking, old guy, but simply won't go with anyone, however hot, if there is no chemistry. I would (and have) walk out un-gepopped if it just isn't there on a particular night. And I would gladly settle for one good session vs some sort of multiple starfish optifick fuckathon. I have never tried to track the incidence of all this, but I just know, if I choose a girl, the chemistry "is" there and right maybe 90% of the time. I am just selective; I actually find few girls really attractive enough, and even fewer where we have some sort of click. But I assure you, I have nevertheless of course made more than my fair share of idiotic, disasterous choices.

Everyone has their own style. I just know chemistry is a very real thing. It is not just a "service" thing. It has to be mutual. Of course there are plenty of girls there who just want euros, as quickly and as coldly as possible. (This deep insight will not win a Nobel Prize). But there are more than enough who are not motivated only by this and you just have to find them. It is worth the effort, and part of the appeal of the FKK model is at least you have the time to do this.

But the FKK business model indeed counts on throughput-and 90% seem fine with this as you see from the crowded weekends.

But what I do think is wrong, and unfair to newbees and also to the girls, is to just re-enforce this and say it is the only way, somehow "statistically". That becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, and if you want to get social sciencey it about, skews the sample size and hence the "statistics". If you get to know some of the girls, they will all tell you part of their cold, calculating response is also a reflection of how men treat them, and these expectations set up a nice negative feedback loop. No need to fall into this.

My point was and is, if you just choose right, and act decent and try to also please the girls, and just de-pressurize the whole thing, you can have a fine good "GFE" time without spending a fortune. That has been my experience all over das Fickerland for many years. It was my experience even as a newbee-it is a matter of tuning into the girl and finding out what makes her tick. Common sense. I just wish the forum would talk a little more about this vs creating an impression that it is just pay, bang, raus. Of course if that is what you want, easily done. But it can be more than that, if you slow things down. Even 30 minutes can go slowly.

Reducing something quite complex to a series of rules, market price trends, and rigid expectations just seems overly simplistic. Life is brutal enough-hopefully we go to an FKK to at least have some real contact and fun. At least before the AI cyborg dolls take over.

It is a choice.

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So now boys. Ninja stop and hope we end this, and return to actual reviews (with girls names) and news.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2224066]Ninja has warrior code-must refer to self in 3rd person. Not sure what "out your mind to I" means, but must be profound smart phone auto remark. Also of course Ninja suffer from deep inferiority and intimacy issues. Glad you share my "delicate situation" (as my secret therapist) with entire forum, and then do not mean to offend. Interesting jujitso strategy. Would hate to see real insult.

But for world, Danny later write nice PM and and Ninja excerpt from exchange (Ninja slip out of 3rd person, due to drugs).

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We just have very different experiences-for whatever the reason I can tell you that chemistry is THE thing. I am a very normal, plain looking, old guy, but simply won't go with anyone, however hot, if there is no chemistry. I would (and have) walk out un-gepopped if it just isn't there on a particular night. And I would gladly settle for one good session vs some sort of multiple starfish optifick fuckathon. I have never tried to track the incidence of all this, but I just know, if I choose a girl, the chemistry "is" there and right maybe 90% of the time. I am just selective; I actually find few girls really attractive enough, and even fewer where we have some sort of click. But I assure you, I have nevertheless of course made more than my fair share of idiotic, disasterous choices..[/QUOTE]I really don't mean to offend you. Apologies and may we meet under happy circumstances.

I always go for the porn start look, and Nova has it in spades. Gargantuan fake breasts, puffed up lips, and blonde hair. She was a goddess sitting at the bar. I waited for her to do a couple of sessions (she doesn't stay alone for long), then approached her. She has a bit of an intimidating look, but she was really a very nice person. I would guess her to be in her early 30's. She absolutely gave one of the best BJs I've ever had and did it as long as I asked for. Pussy tasted amazing as well.

Hi all,

Any updates For LU? Will be there on Wednesday, I was there in the end of August it's seems poor LU.

Hi gents!

Anyone know if beautiful Asian girl Akira is still around?

Hi Folks,

I'd like to ask your opinion about this FKK.

I've never been at Artemis before, and the previous reviews do not look so encouraging, not all of them at least.

Considering standard 30 mins (60 euros), without extras, would you still recommend this place or better to look somewhere else?

Thanks.

Hi folks,

Based on your experience, would you still recommend FKK Artemis even for standard 30 mins action?

I've never been in Artemis before, in general I'm not looking for any extra, but I'm just wondering it's worth the 60 e standard or if the girls put pressure or so.

Thanks for any suggestion!

[QUOTE=AcidJazz;2231975]Hi Folks,

I'd like to ask your opinion about this FKK.

I've never been at Artemis before, and the previous reviews do not look so encouraging, not all of them at least.

Considering standard 30 mins (60 euros), without extras, would you still recommend this place or better to look somewhere else?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]They sometimes have OK porn in the cinema at Artemis. Hardly see that in other FKK's, but the lineup is not more than average. It all depends on what you compare it to and what your demands are.

So heading to Artemis soon and you guys have me a bit worried. I don't care for the Barbie types. I like petite girls with a hand sized set of naturals and dreamy brown eyes. I have no issue with Romanians and in fact some of my top experiences have been with Ro-girls. And of course BBBJ and DFK.

I assume Artemis is big enough to have this kind of selection on staff? I like hour long sessions and CIM, so in the past at Sharks or Oasis this has been €150. What's the consensus here on price for that at Artemis?

I travel all over (just back from doing ten hotties in Brazil) and I really like the FKK format. Am I in for disappointment, or the time of my life? Or somewhere in between.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2232092]So heading to Artemis soon and you guys have me a bit worried. I don't care for the Barbie types. I like petite girls with a hand sized set of naturals and dreamy brown eyes. I have no issue with Romanians and in fact some of my top experiences have been with Ro-girls. And of course BBBJ and DFK.

I assume Artemis is big enough to have this kind of selection on staff? I like hour long sessions and CIM, so in the past at Sharks or Oasis this has been 150. What's the consensus here on price for that at Artemis?

I travel all over (just back from doing ten hotties in Brazil) and I really like the FKK format. Am I in for disappointment, or the time of my life? Or somewhere in between.[/QUOTE]In average girls are much more older and fake with sili, Botox, hair extensions in Artemis vs Shark or Oase, will be difficult to find what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2232092]So heading to Artemis soon and you guys have me a bit worried. I don't care for the Barbie types. I like petite girls with a hand sized set of naturals and dreamy brown eyes. I have no issue with Romanians and in fact some of my top experiences have been with Ro-girls. And of course BBBJ and DFK.

I assume Artemis is big enough to have this kind of selection on staff? I like hour long sessions and CIM, so in the past at Sharks or Oasis this has been 150. What's the consensus here on price for that at Artemis?

I travel all over (just back from doing ten hotties in Brazil) and I really like the FKK format. Am I in for disappointment, or the time of my life? Or somewhere in between.[/QUOTE]So this would be 170 in the past, now you can get it between 170 - 220 depending on the girl.

[QUOTE=AcidJazz;2232017]Hi folks,

Based on your experience, would you still recommend FKK Artemis even for standard 30 mins action?

I've never been in Artemis before, in general I'm not looking for any extra, but I'm just wondering it's worth the 60 e standard or if the girls put pressure or so.

Thanks for any suggestion![/QUOTE]For 60 euro you get an one hour massage from one of the guys downstairs and that about the most you'll get. The good half hour sessions are very very hard to find not only at Artemis.

Went to Artemis two nights in a row, Monday and Tuesday.

80 EU entry.

60 EU is the starting price with the girls for sex and BJ w a condom.

Line up on Monday when we arrived at 9 p was really nice. Maybe about 40-50 girls, in various states of undress. Mostly nude or wearing skimpy lingerie. That was one of the beauties of this place. Everything is very much on display so the girls really have nicer bodies in general since they can't hide it. Lots of fake boobs, some fake butts.

Many stunners but also many girls on the older, but still attractive, side of the fence.

For 120 EU, I was able to negotiate 1 HR including BBBJ and anal.

By comparison I would say this place rivals Rio de Janeiro's Centaurus which I've visited at least ten times during my travels. But I give the edge to Artemis bc the facilities are quite impressive.

Nationality of the girls varied across Armenian, Moldovan, Serbia, a couple of Dominicans, two Colombians, a Venezuelan, only a handful of Germans surprisingly. They pay 30EU a day to work there. The girls I sessioned with also told me they try and pull in about 700-1000EU a shift and work 15-20 days a month.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;2234448]Went to Artemis two nights in a row, Monday and Tuesday..[/QUOTE]120 an hour for anal and BBBJ is a bargain! Are you sure it wasn't a cross? LOL.

30 EU per day entrance for the girls must not be true. In Palace they have told me they pay 100 and some others have told me 150. I don't think they aver say the truth, they give fake information, they have fake names, fake boobs, many even give fake nationality. Not that I really care at the end of the day.

I like your comparison to Centaurus. But it seems Centaurus is also much more expensive? An internet source says " the starting price for a 40 minute session with a prostitute in a room at the brothel is $200. ".

[QUOTE=Bonhead;2234448]Went to Artemis two nights in a row, Monday and Tuesday.

80 EU entry.

60 EU is the starting price with the girls for sex and BJ w a condom.

Line up on Monday when we arrived at 9 p was really nice. Maybe about 40-50 girls, in various states of undress. Mostly nude or wearing skimpy lingerie. That was one of the beauties of this place. Everything is very much on display so the girls really have nicer bodies in general since they can't hide it. Lots of fake boobs, some fake butts.

Many stunners but also many girls on the older, but still attractive, side of the fence.

For 120 EU, I was able to negotiate 1 HR including BBBJ and anal.

By comparison I would say this place rivals Rio de Janeiro's Centaurus which I've visited at least ten times during my travels. But I give the edge to Artemis bc the facilities are quite impressive.

Nationality of the girls varied across Armenian, Moldovan, Serbia, a couple of Dominicans, two Colombians, a Venezuelan, only a handful of Germans surprisingly. They pay 30EU a day to work there. The girls I sessioned with also told me they try and pull in about 700-1000EU a shift and work 15-20 days a month.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bonhead;2234448]Went to Artemis two nights in a row, Monday and Tuesday.

80 EU entry.

60 EU is the starting price with the girls for sex and BJ w a condom.

Line up on Monday when we arrived at 9 p was really nice. Maybe about 40-50 girls, in various states of undress. Mostly nude or wearing skimpy lingerie. That was one of the beauties of this place. Everything is very much on display so the girls really have nicer bodies in general since they can't hide it. Lots of fake boobs, some fake butts.

Many stunners but also many girls on the older, but still attractive, side of the fence.

For 120 EU, I was able to negotiate 1 HR including BBBJ and anal.

By comparison I would say this place rivals Rio de Janeiro's Centaurus which I've visited at least ten times during my travels. But I give the edge to Artemis bc the facilities are quite impressive.

Nationality of the girls varied across Armenian, Moldovan, Serbia, a couple of Dominicans, two Colombians, a Venezuelan, only a handful of Germans surprisingly. They pay 30EU a day to work there. The girls I sessioned with also told me they try and pull in about 700-1000EU a shift and work 15-20 days a month.[/QUOTE]Girls pay more than 100 to enter, excluding sleeping costs. Fact. 120 an hour including BBBJ and anal, you can't find in a street corner. If you found it in Artemis, you must be a great negotiator or extremely lucky. To get the one hour with BBBJ alone is an achievement. Are you sure you were in Artemis.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2234608]Girls pay more than 100 to enter, excluding sleeping costs. Fact. 120 an hour including BBBJ and anal, you can't find in a street corner. If you found it in Artemis, you must be a great negotiator or extremely lucky. To get the one hour with BBBJ alone is an achievement. Are you sure you were in Artemis.[/QUOTE]140 euro to enter and sleep there on third floor if I remember right.

Bonhead,

I'm sorry but I don't believe the info you shared, the prices you quote is not possible at Artemis. Anal alone is 100 extra so it should be at least 220 for an hour and I have never found a girl at Artemis willing to that for free. And just as Danny writes the girls pay way more than 30 so it's hard to take your post serious.

Sorry but unfortunately almost all girls charge extra for BBBJ if you don't know them from before, even if you extend time it's hard to get BBBJ without paying extra nowadays. Personally I think this tactics will backfire in the long run, I for one rather go to Spain where I can find many price worthy options and even good weather!! Unfortunately no FKK's in Spain but constant upsell for 'normal' service such as BBBJ and french kissing makes visiting Germany less interesting IMO.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2234672]Bonhead,

I'm sorry but I don't believe the info you shared, the prices you quote is not possible at Artemis. Anal alone is 100 extra so it should be at least 220 for an hour and I have never found a girl at Artemis willing to that for free. And just as Danny writes the girls pay way more than 30 so it's hard to take your post serious.

Sorry but unfortunately almost all girls charge extra for BBBJ if you don't know them from before, even if you extend time it's hard to get BBBJ without paying extra nowadays. Personally I think this tactics will backfire in the long run, I for one rather go to Spain where I can find many price worthy options and even good weather!! Unfortunately no FKK's in Spain but constant upsell for 'normal' service such as BBBJ and french kissing makes visiting Germany less interesting IMO.[/QUOTE]May be he is so sexy that the HA girls are paying for him.

Have you seen Mariella lately (short, blonde German)? Have you seen the tall, brunette Ukrainian with bangs? THANKS because I'd like to see them again.

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2236528]Have you seen Mariella lately (short, blonde German)? Have you seen the tall, brunette Ukrainian with bangs? THANKS because I'd like to see them again.[/QUOTE]Who is who if he is not you? I need more points.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2234665]140 euro to enter and sleep there on third floor if I remember right.[/QUOTE]80 (Euro) for the entry, 30 (Euro) for the pre taxes and 20 (Euro) for the bedroom. But this is only my personal fantasy-fact which comes from 'he said he said'. Maybe the towel ladies know more.

Where is the female bartender with the 'all you need is love' shirt?

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2236548]Who is who if he is not you? I need more points.

80 (Euro) for the entry, 30 (Euro) for the pre taxes and 20 (Euro) for the bedroom. But this is only my personal fantasy-fact which comes from 'he said he said'. Maybe the towel ladies know more.

Where is the female bartender with the 'all you need is love' shirt?[/QUOTE]I don't know who that bartender girl is actually. Anyone seen Geraldine Hungarian or Coco Albanian lately?

Is it possible to buy the Berlin Welcome Card at Tegel Airport? All these taxi-rides is taking to much money out of my wallet.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2236548]Who is who if he is not you? I need more points.

80 (Euro) for the entry, 30 (Euro) for the pre taxes and 20 (Euro) for the bedroom. But this is only my personal fantasy-fact which comes from 'he said he said'. Maybe the towel ladies know more.

Where is the female bartender with the 'all you need is love' shirt?[/QUOTE]Girls don't pay 80 euro or 20 to sleep. They pay altogether close to 150.

Mariella is there. The Ukrainian is there as well, but they don't work everyday, so call reception and ask on the day you come as both work mornings. Normally they are with giving information.

Coco is not Albanian, but of Arab decent. And I have not seen her on the weekend.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2236750]Is it possible to buy the Berlin Welcome Card at Tegel Airport? All these taxi-rides is taking to much money out of my wallet.[/QUOTE]Download the BVG app and you can buy whatever ticket you need on the go.

The welcome card I think includes entrance to museums and stuff, but no entrance to Artemis. :-)

I use to buy a Day ticket. Costs 7

But watch out, it is valid to 3 am the day after you buy it! It is not valid for 24 hours from purchase!

Danny227, thanks for your help! What is the Ukrainian girl's name? Does she still have the bangs?

[QUOTE=Danny227;2236800]Girls don't pay 80 euro or 20 to sleep. They pay altogether close to 150.

Mariella is there. The Ukrainian is there as well, but they don't work everyday, so call reception and ask on the day you come as both work mornings. Normally they are with giving information.

Coco is not Albanian, but of Arab decent. And I have not seen her on the weekend.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2237073]Danny227, thanks for your help! What is the Ukrainian girl's name? Does she still have the bangs?[/QUOTE]There is only one Ukrainian. I am not sure about her club name. What do you mean by "bangs?

Bangs are head hairs that cover the forehead. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangs_[/URL](hair) Does she have that?

[QUOTE=Danny227;2237102]There is only one Ukrainian. I am not sure about her club name. What do you mean by "bangs?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2237150]Bangs are head hairs that cover the forehead. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangs_[/URL](hair) Does she have that?[/QUOTE]Oh, OK. You mean Katya. Black hair. Pretty face, flat ass.

Yes, she is still there.

Visited Artemis this week and can only confirm once again what we have all written the last year or so. Almost all girls provide BBBJ but they all want extra for it, most girls want €50 extra for this service but what was disappointing for me was that even a few girls that I knew from before now wanted this also I tried negotiating with them staying longer in the room with included BBBJ but the girls I talked to didn't buy that at all, so with a couple of girls I only stayed 30 minutes standard rate €60. Sorry can't remember the names, one black girl with enhanced tits from Tanzania and a Romanian girl with long black hair, enhanced tits probably one of the best looking girls at Artemis at this moment IMO. Just sad she wanted to upsell everything in the room.

Lineup has clearly changed a lot the last year or so still many familiar faces but many new as well, as always very wide range of women at Artemis if you can't find any girl that suits your taste then I guess the fault lies on you. Conclusion if you fancy paying €110 for half an hour with BBBJ and entrance €80 then go ahead you can have a blast at Artemis. My problem with that is really in my own head because I think it should be standard rate since they have all done it in the past for the same money and they are obviously willing to provide it, I feel cheap when I think about it but I just don't think it's worth it.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2237661]Visited Artemis this week and can only confirm once again what we have all written the last year or so. Almost all girls provide BBBJ but they all want extra for it, most girls want 50 extra for this service but what was disappointing for me was that even a few girls that I knew from before now wanted this also I tried negotiating with them staying longer in the room with included BBBJ but the girls I talked to didn't buy that at all, so with a couple of girls I only stayed 30 minutes standard rate 60. Sorry can't remember the names, one black girl with enhanced tits from Tanzania and a Romanian girl with long black hair, enhanced tits probably one of the best looking girls at Artemis at this moment IMO. Just sad she wanted to upsell everything in the room.

Lineup has clearly changed a lot the last year or so still many familiar faces but many new as well, as always very wide range of women at Artemis if you can't find any girl that suits your taste then I guess the fault lies on you. Conclusion if you fancy paying 110 for half an hour with BBBJ and entrance 80 then go ahead you can have a blast at Artemis. My problem with that is really in my own head because I think it should be standard rate since they have all done it in the past for the same money and they are obviously willing to provide it, I feel cheap when I think about it but I just don't think it's worth it.[/QUOTE]Palace is just a cheating place good enough for tourists or very hungry guys, very few senior German mongers are going there for the moment.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2237661]Visited Artemis this week and can only confirm once again what we have all written the last year or so. Almost all girls provide BBBJ but they all want extra for it, most girls want 50 extra for this service but what was disappointing for me was that even a few girls that I knew from before now wanted this also I tried negotiating with them staying longer in the room with included BBBJ but the girls I talked to didn't buy that at all, so with a couple of girls I only stayed 30 minutes standard rate 60. Sorry can't remember the names, one black girl with enhanced tits from Tanzania and a Romanian girl with long black hair, enhanced tits probably one of the best looking girls at Artemis at this moment IMO. Just sad she wanted to upsell everything in the room.

Lineup has clearly changed a lot the last year or so still many familiar faces but many new as well, as always very wide range of women at Artemis if you can't find any girl that suits your taste then I guess the fault lies on you. Conclusion if you fancy paying 110 for half an hour with BBBJ and entrance 80 then go ahead you can have a blast at Artemis. My problem with that is really in my own head because I think it should be standard rate since they have all done it in the past for the same money and they are obviously willing to provide it, I feel cheap when I think about it but I just don't think it's worth it.[/QUOTE]So the price is same as globe Zurich now, if the service is the same as Globe Zurich, it can be perceived as OK, but if not it is really rip off club.

[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2237661]Visited Artemis this week and can only confirm once again what we have all written the last year or so. Almost all girls provide BBBJ but they all want extra for it, most girls want 50 extra for this service but what was disappointing for me was that even a few girls that I knew from before now wanted this also I tried negotiating with them staying longer in the room with included BBBJ but the girls I talked to didn't buy that at all, so with a couple of girls I only stayed 30 minutes standard rate 60. Sorry can't remember the names, one black girl with enhanced tits from Tanzania and a Romanian girl with long black hair, enhanced tits probably one of the best looking girls at Artemis at this moment IMO. Just sad she wanted to upsell everything in the room.

Lineup has clearly changed a lot the last year or so still many familiar faces but many new as well, as always very wide range of women at Artemis if you can't find any girl that suits your taste then I guess the fault lies on you. Conclusion if you fancy paying 110 for half an hour with BBBJ and entrance 80 then go ahead you can have a blast at Artemis. My problem with that is really in my own head because I think it should be standard rate since they have all done it in the past for the same money and they are obviously willing to provide it, I feel cheap when I think about it but I just don't think it's worth it.[/QUOTE]I hear you Teddy Bears. You write a compelling case.

If the new standard rates at Artemis is for a half hour session with BBBJ included is 110 being 60 for the half hour and 50 extra for BBBJ plus 80 entrance fee then that 190 euro for that half hour assuming you give the one shot.

This means going to a private apartment or even seeing an Escort becomes a more economic prospect. The main advantage from my perspective of a FKK becomes the choice advantage of a plethora of women to choose from. But even then.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2237770]So the price is same as globe Zurich now, if the service is the same as Globe Zurich, it can be perceived as OK, but if not it is really rip off club.[/QUOTE]The club is absolutely a rip off. But for 170 an hour, which is not cheap, I get good service. This isn't easy.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2237917]The club is absolutely a rip off. But for 170 an hour, which is not cheap, I get good service. This isn't easy.[/QUOTE]Even at 170 per hour plus the 80 euros entry makes that first hour if that is all you are shooting is 250 euros for the hour which is high end Escort prices. Also the service may not be that good as well.

Heading to Globe Zurich for 280 CHF for the hour plus entry becomes much more viable when the service is expected.

[QUOTE=OmarRap;2237958]Even at 170 per hour plus the 80 euros entry makes that first hour if that is all you are shooting is 250 euros for the hour which is high end Escort prices. Also the service may not be that good as well.

Heading to Globe Zurich for 280 CHF for the hour plus entry becomes much more viable when the service is expected.[/QUOTE]For one hour, no point to go to Artemis. Also, some people actually live in Berlin and Artemis or escort is the only choice. For sex alone you can escort, but then there is a luck element. But if you like to spend the day and enjoy the facility then in Berlin you have no other option.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2237102]There is only one Ukrainian. I am not sure about her club name. What do you mean by "bangs?[/QUOTE]There was one petite brunette (below 1.55 probably) who claimed for a long time she was Ukrainian, but I figured out she indeed also were Romanian. Who is this real Ukrainian then?

[QUOTE=Danny227;2237917]The club is absolutely a rip off. But for 170 an hour, which is not cheap, I get good service. This isn't easy.[/QUOTE]Artemis now can be total rip off club if full GFE service including DFK, DATY, condom fuck passionately is not offered for such up sell prices of around 100 euro. Also 30 min should be 30 min, not 20 min.

As for Globe, it is reasonable rate considering they do give you promised passionate service and 30 min is 30 min without any deception or cheat or annoying negotiation.

If it is 100 euro 30 min and Artemis give same service as globe Zurich then it is fine, and if it is 30 min is 30 min.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2238100]There was one petite brunette (below 1.55 probably) who claimed for a long time she was Ukrainian, but I figured out she indeed also were Romanian. Who is this real Ukrainian then?[/QUOTE]There are actually two: One Blonde named Anja, she can pass for German when talking but has a Ukrainian face IMO. And, Katya with the bangs (I actually forgot about her for a second). Both sit together, both worked in GT before, both should be good service. Normally sitting on the bar in the main side and on the last two chairs before the bar curves right.

It's been a couple years since I saw her but I asked recently on here about the girl. She has dark hair, bangs, is tall (taller than the Romanian with bangs girl). She holds hands with another girl and walks around. Easy going. I was told she is there still. Hopefully that is the case.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2238100]There was one petite brunette (below 1.55 probably) who claimed for a long time she was Ukrainian, but I figured out she indeed also were Romanian. Who is this real Ukrainian then?[/QUOTE]

Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.

5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.

Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2238320]It's been a couple years since I saw her but I asked recently on here about the girl. She has dark hair, bangs, is tall (taller than the Romanian with bangs girl). She holds hands with another girl and walks around. Easy going. I was told she is there still. Hopefully that is the case.[/QUOTE]So many other girls around the best is not to concentrate on one.

What did the 2 local racist Turkish Germans do?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2238381]Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.

5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.

Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2238381]Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.

5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.

Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.[/QUOTE]The club is owned by the HA or so, most of the girls are veteran and in relation with the gang members so they reduce the competition by refusing top sexy new girls, on top of that they face the same issues than everywhere in Europe, less new girls need to be prostitutes.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2238381]Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.

5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.

Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.[/QUOTE]You had a bad experience. That happens. Artemis has some pretty good girls and new girls keep coming. And after Globe, this is the club women make the most money in. The issue is; 110 euro for half an hour (BJ considerations); a good hour should be 170 and it is not guaranteed. It depends on the girl you choose. So, My feelings is to leave Artemis for the visitors and stay home. This is getting disproportionately expensive.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2238623]You had a bad experience. That happens. Artemis has some pretty good girls and new girls keep coming. And after Globe, this is the club women make the most money in. The issue is; 110 euro for half an hour (BJ considerations); a good hour should be 170 and it is not guaranteed. It depends on the girl you choose. So, My feelings is to leave Artemis for the visitors and stay home. This is getting disproportionately expensive.[/QUOTE]How many shares have you from Artemis or I can t understand how you can support this club just have a look on the German forums, the reports are getting worse and worse which I was thinking is not possible knowing how bad the club is for 3 years at least. Now if you like it don t hesitate go and spend your money.

It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes. What my original 50 E extra should cover she never told me. We did some 69 which was OK for a few minutes, then DATY in normal position where she squeezed her thights against my chins and more or less wanted me to lick her stomach and not her pussy. At this stage I stopped, said to her this is a total rip-off and my momentum was totally gone. We left the room after ca. 15 min, I paid her 60 E and that was the end of the evening. I should have taken the warning signals, I should have chose someone else, but I didn't. So all my skepticism about the club came true. I have had many good moments in the club before; now it was totally different. When I left at 10 pm I told the house lady about the bad experience. Her reply was more like "the girls are independent". Next time I'm in Berlin I'll do something else.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2239340]It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min"..[/QUOTE]Girls are independent, but must adhere to house rules. You should ask for the manager at the reception. Management will treat you better than the receptionist. But, all in all, you paid her 60 and not 110, so you didn't chicken out. Only when you take her to the manager and say what was the original agreement, this can be a lesson for her. But you also had a bad pick. For 110 30 min you should be fine. That's still expensive to my taste.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2239340]It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes.[/QUOTE]I would have just fucked her for 30 min and paid standard price of 60 euro.

When upsell become rip off, one should pay original price but finish the 30 min session and pay 60 euro house price, after that it is all she said he said.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2239340]It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes..[/QUOTE]I am sorry but you should trust the recent reviews. I went in July and it really sucked. Very bad service from the girls, a lot of upsetting, rude attitude. Regarding the service and the look from the WG I think it's not even in the top 15 FKK clubs in Germany. Next time in Berlin go to an erotic massage studio, it will be much better.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2239340]It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes. What my original 50 E extra should cover she never told me. We did some 69 which was OK for a few minutes, then DATY in normal position where she squeezed her thights against my chins and more or less wanted me to lick her stomach and not her pussy. At this stage I stopped, said to her this is a total rip-off and my momentum was totally gone. We left the room after ca. 15 min, I paid her 60 E and that was the end of the evening. I should have taken the warning signals, I should have chose someone else, but I didn't. So all my skepticism about the club came true. I have had many good moments in the club before; now it was totally different. When I left at 10 pm I told the house lady about the bad experience. Her reply was more like "the girls are independent". Next time I'm in Berlin I'll do something else.[/QUOTE]Nice to see that Artemis remains in the top position for the cheating clubs that obviously I will never visit again.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2239686]I am sorry but you should trust the recent reviews. I went in July and it really sucked. Very bad service from the girls, a lot of upsetting, rude attitude. Regarding the service and the look from the WG I think it's not even in the top 15 FKK clubs in Germany. Next time in Berlin go to an erotic massage studio, it will be much better.[/QUOTE]I think it's the overall situation in Berlin. The last couple of times I've been there have been very negative. The rude WG's are all over town. Don't know if it's something in the water or what it is, but Berlin is no fun anymore. My last trip to Germany went to Frankfurt. Won't go back to Berlin.

I visited Artemis last Thursday. It was too cool to use the outdoor pool, so I satisfied my self with the indoor pool. When I got into the main bar lounge I thought there was plenty of girls with good figures, enough for me to be interested in. The last two visits were OK, but today it felt like my first few visits to Artemis. I alternated between the lower Kino and watching the action at the main bar. When I was in the Kino I was approached by Alessandra from Spain. We soon retired to the room at the back of the Kino. The action was short, and sharp and intense. This was a repetition with this girl because I had the same kind of session on a previous visit. I wanted to have another session before grabbing a bite at 18.00 hrs. Sometime after 17.00 hrs I met Mandy from Berlin. I had a good session with her on a previous visit, and she remembered me, so I went with her again. Another good session ensued. It would appear that if you get to know some of the girls you can get better service and a good session need not be longer than 30 minutes. Both sessions were for 60 euro. Mandy supplied information that she does not turn up till 17.00 hrs and that there is a room in Artemis for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url]. I did not know this before. I spent nearly 6 hours there. Artemis is still a good place for picking up girls.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2236629]I don't know who that bartender girl is actually. Anyone seen Geraldine Hungarian or Coco Albanian lately?[/QUOTE]Is she still working at the Artemis?

[QUOTE=RichMan1;2240086]Is she still working at the Artemis?[/QUOTE]That was my question LOL. Have you seen Geraldine from Hungary recently at Artemis? She was one of the best provider in room.

Very interesting post!

So you agreed to 110 E. But then essentially only paid 60 E, because of your dissatisfaction with the service, right? And the WG was not climbing on the barricades and screaming at you? Instead she simply took the 60 E. Which was a decent per-min price of 4 E per min,.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2239340] We left the room after ca. 15 min, I paid her 60 E and that was the end of the evening. I should have taken the warning signals, I should have chose someone else, but I didn't. So all my skepticism about the club came true. I have had many good moments in the club before; now it was totally different. When I left at 10 pm I told the house lady about the bad experience. Her reply was more like "the girls are independent". Next time I'm in Berlin I'll do something else.[/QUOTE]

Short story: There is no question that the majority of Artemis girls are sharks and the overall girlfriend vibe is lacking. If you only have one or two shots, you are rolling the dice. If you are there for longer than that, you can have at least one good experience. Not great. But solid.

Rolled in to Artemis about 4 PM on a Sunday. Maybe 15-20 girls and at least that many guys and growing by the minute. I had a thirties-ish Brazilian girl court me for a bit. Wanted 130 for the usual extras. A little thick around the middle and clearly older so I said I was hanging for a bit. Several other non-starters (remember for me any thing but brown eyes is the kiss of death).

Eventually hooked up with Salome. Clearly about 10 x better on the optics than most of the girls there. Given my aesthetic. Nice heart shaped face, huge brown eyes, and a full set of lips. Her tits are clearly DD+ all natural. She was not backing down off 160 for kissing and the usual extra for a half hour. I caved and said lets go. On balance a very fine experience. Some upsell that I quickly squashed. No real illusion of BFGF and the kissing was distinctly lame. But the BJ and the mish and the doggie were all mighty fine. I am a bit girthy and some girls are too tight to get a good slip and slide going, but she was just right. Had a super nice bare back tittle fuck to finish. Was actually worth the €160, but I would skip kissing next time.

Second girl was a mistake. Nikki from Hungary. Been at it for 12 years. Thought that might be good for a pro- level BJ but was wrong. Won't even recount this disaster, except to say she is beyond thick and he BJ is 90% HJ. Avoid.

Tatiana saved the day. She is a tight little brunette Romanian with bangs. I'd seen here around and she didn't do it for me, but when I walked past her in better light I was like whoa, beautiful eyes. And the more I chatted her up, the more she appealed. Given my prior lame kissing I decided to skip that and got the standard €110 offer. And this girl was true to her word and a trooper. No in room upsell. We did several positions, but she really had to work the BJ for a long time -- no hands, unlike my Hungarian girl, and brought a spectacular finish. I tipped her 20 because she was an awesome hard worker.

I took a three hour break and a nap. I came back around 10, armed with a small dose of VitaminV. (You can leave and return same day). My first go was again a mistake, but not as huge. I can't recall her name, but an exceptionally tall blond with deep brown eyes and pouty lips. There were a couple warning signs that I blew I right past and the experience was pretty much OK. Kissing was lame again, but she did offer DATY as part of the kissing bundle. Altogether pleasant enough but pretty transactional. Finished by hand, while she moved sexily in doggie position giving a good view of her pussy. Very helpful. LOL.

Last girl was a solid win, but could have been an upsell disaster in the wrong hands. I had just finished with my Russian girl so it was too early. This really pretty Romanian in a red fishnet top caught my eye and latched on pretty hard (in a good way). Her name was Karina and she was undeterred when I said I just got back from a session. Just chose to hang out with me and cuddle and drape herself all over me until 20 or so minutes later we agreed to a room.

Again it was important as others noted that we agreed up front. We decided on an hour (it being my fifth go in 8 hours) and €220 for kissing and the usual other extra. This was overall a really nice experience. Early she tried to upsell me to the prostate massage and even tried to shame me a bit when I declined -- which about got her the boot -- but I told her no upselling. Only what we agreed. That must have gotten her attention because a minute later she said "69?" and I said, only if it's not extra and she said "no darling that is included of course" Anyhow, after this rough spot it was as close to GFE as Artemis gets I think. She wasn't very good at tongue kissing, but the kisses were sweet and felt passionate, not forced. We did a whole lotta stuff in that hour, with help from VitaminV and a very strong finish. All in all a really good hour, after the initial miscues.

I would repeat with Salome, Tatiana, and Karina- avoid the other two.

Tomorrow I'll summarize a few Artemis tips, plus report on my aborted Paris No 5 visit and my super nice Angentur Liberty visit.

Steve 9696.

Nice report Steve. Artemis has clearly evolved to a proper ripoff place nowadays. I have had hundreds of sessions at Artemis the last ten years, normally very good sessions including DFK & BBBJ but the apparent price structure is just crazy and it just doesn't make sense to frequently visit anymore. I will be in Berlin in four weeks time for leisure and will probably visit then as well, but after that visit I can't see any reason to visit Berlin in the near future as it feels as Artemis is dead as we know it.

No reason to pay 80€ entrance when proper sex is overpriced, if you don't mind covered BJ and bad attitude then you are OK. I for one will rather spend my euros in Spain where you get an hour for 100€ everything included from a Latin girl which I prefer over the Romanians in FKK-land, just sad that FKK's don't exist in Spain, why don't they anyway? Just not the same to visit apartments when you are used to facilities such as Artemis. But the sun and the prices in Spain makes it my preferred destination.

Happy mongering!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2242181]Short story: There is no question that the majority of Artemis girls are sharks and the overall girlfriend vibe is lacking. If you only have one or two shots, you are rolling the dice. If you are there for longer than that, you can have at least one good experience. Not great. But solid.

Rolled in to Artemis about 4 PM on a Sunday. Maybe 15-20 girls and at least that many guys and growing by the minute. I had a thirties-ish Brazilian girl court me for a bit. Wanted 130 for the usual extras. A little thick around the middle and clearly older so I said I was hanging for a bit. Several other non-starters (remember for me any thing but brown eyes is the kiss of death).

Eventually hooked up with Salome. Clearly about 10 x better on the optics than most of the girls there. Given my aesthetic. Nice heart shaped face, huge brown eyes, and a full set of lips. Her tits are clearly DD+ all natural. She was not backing down off 160 for kissing and the usual extra for a half hour. I caved and said lets go. On balance a very fine experience. Some upsell that I quickly squashed. No real illusion of BFGF and the kissing was distinctly lame. But the BJ and the mish and the doggie were all mighty fine. I am a bit girthy and some girls are too tight to get a good slip and slide going, but she was just right. Had a super nice bare back tittle fuck to finish. Was actually worth the 160, but I would skip kissing next time.

Second girl was a mistake. Nikki from Hungary. Been at it for 12 years. Thought that might be good for a pro- level BJ but was wrong. Won't even recount this disaster, except to say she is beyond thick and he BJ is 90% HJ. Avoid.

Tatiana saved the day. She is a tight little brunette Romanian with bangs. I'd seen here around and she didn't do it for me, but when I walked past her in better light I was like whoa, beautiful eyes. And the more I chatted her up, the more she appealed. Given my prior lame kissing I decided to skip that and got the standard 110 offer. And this girl was true to her word and a trooper. No in room upsell. We did several positions, but she really had to work the BJ for a long time -- no hands, unlike my Hungarian girl, and brought a spectacular finish. I tipped her 20 because she was an awesome hard worker..[/QUOTE]Viagra to fuck a prostitute? Sorry if you can t means better you save your money, you overpaid all the girls, you got quantity but not quality at least for me, Artemis is a nightmare for most of the senior mongers.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2241196]Very interesting post!

So you agreed to 110 E. But then essentially only paid 60 E, because of your dissatisfaction with the service, right? And the WG was not climbing on the barricades and screaming at you? Instead she simply took the 60 E. Which was a decent per-min price of 4 E per min,.[/QUOTE]I would have banged her hardcore for good 30 min from back position and cut the session at 30 min due to bad service and pay her 60 euro for 30 min.

I should note that I've been almost everywhere worldwide and to Oase, World, and Sharks. So my view is pretty jaded. If you have never been to FKK before it will be awesome. And the facilities are top notch. I'the say the "fit and finish" of Artemis is top notch.

So much about life is about expectations. Go in with high expectations and you will be disappointed by the sharkiness and service level. Go in not expecting much and some girl is sure to surprise you in a positive way.

More tonight after visit #2.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2242424]I should note that I've been almost everywhere worldwide and to Oase, World, and Sharks. So my view is pretty jaded. If you have never been to FKK before it will be awesome. And the facilities are top notch. I'the say the "fit and finish" of Artemis is top notch.

So much about life is about expectations. Go in with high expectations and you will be disappointed by the sharkiness and service level. Go in not expecting much and some girl is sure to surprise you in a positive way.[/QUOTE]Even with your experience, you go on slowest, weakest lineup days of the week Sun-Tues? "Chill" aspect of slow days has its charms, but lineup much better Thurs-Sat. Before 2300 not crowded. Not fair to generalize from slow days. Sometimes more hardened, more money pressured girls work slower days (sometime not...). But in general choices better on power days. All FKKs basically the same, some up some down, girls move around. Easy to blame venue. But many factors under your control:

"Game" (how to make girl relax not feel like steak, and so you not just tourist with cock and euros),
"Choice" ( how to get everything clear up front before heading to room or walking away if vibe not right)
& "Chemistry" (must feel some minimal mutual attraction-from girl, take time to sense it or not)

All big suc(k)cess factors.

You seem like decent guy so should be able to find some good times. Before wizened souls come back with usual negatives, remember; like life, some people find way to enjoy, some don't.

Totally agree with you Nooky and Steve.

For a newbie the Artemis experience would probably still be very exciting and mind blowing, I can still remember my first visit in 2009 I felt like a kid in a candy store LOL.

I agree that your expectations sometimes can be to high especially when you have been there so many times before, because you expect it to be as before but it will probably never be like that again. The disappointing part with Artemis is when you compare it with other FKK's in many of those clubs the girls give good service if you choose to stay 1 hour or longer, but in Artemis it seems that many girls wants additional charge for everything, even DATY with a few girls that I talked to! It fast becomes extremely expensive if you want good service, if you are ok with covered BJ I can almost guarantee you that many girls will try to upsell you in the room which at least for me becomes very stressful and takes away the fun and momentum of the session, when that happens I most times abort and cut short.

As said if you are a first time visitor or not care about the amount of money you spend you will probably have a very good time at Artemis, I know I had at least.

Just as Nooky mentioned it can't be echoed to many times, do the Q&A and try to get to 'know' the girl before you agree rooming with her and don't be afraid to walk away if it doesn't feel right, trust your gut feel. Treat the girls respectfully and agree on everything before your session and you will be OK. Remember to have control of your wallet just because the girls want a certain amount of money doesn't mean you can't make them a counteroffer and stand your ground, after all they want your money!

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2239686]I am sorry but you should trust the recent reviews. I went in July and it really sucked. Very bad service from the girls, a lot of upsetting, rude attitude. Regarding the service and the look from the WG I think it's not even in the top 15 FKK clubs in Germany. Next time in Berlin go to an erotic massage studio, it will be much better.[/QUOTE]What a bad luck that we didn't met each other, I bet it would have been unforgettable. I was also in Artemis in July but not the whole July. Did you saw the ugly guy wearing a Bordeaux robe, it was me.

My performance in room wasn't optimal as always, but I kept on improving. At least that's what the girls said, of course all the girls and I pay just basic rate for compliments.

I didn't notice any unfriendly hookers beside the usual kidding, fun making and middle finger raising. Playground reality but far from being "Dracu".

My visit didn't sucked. And since it is written now on ISG (if this post is passing censorship) everybody has to believe it. No choice I am sorry.

But I promise not to search for the passwords of my other never used nicknames to confirm multiple times that also "other" guys are alright with Artemis.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;2240049]I visited Artemis last Thursday. It was too cool to use the outdoor pool, so I satisfied my self with the indoor pool. When I got into the main bar lounge I thought there was plenty of girls with good figures, enough for me to be interested in. The last two visits were OK, but today it felt like my first few visits to Artemis. I alternated between the lower Kino and watching the action at the main bar. When I was in the Kino I was approached by Alessandra from Spain. We soon retired to the room at the back of the Kino. The action was short, and sharp and intense. This was a repetition with this girl because I had the same kind of session on a previous visit. I wanted to have another session before grabbing a bite at 18.00 hrs. Sometime after 17.00 hrs I met Mandy from Berlin. I had a good session with her on a previous visit, and she remembered me, so I went with her again. Another good session ensued. It would appear that if you get to know some of the girls you can get better service and a good session need not be longer than 30 minutes. Both sessions were for 60 euro. Mandy supplied information that she does not turn up till 17.00 hrs and that there is a room in Artemis for (CodeWord118). I did not know this before. I spent nearly 6 hours there. Artemis is still a good place for picking up girls.[/QUOTE]Nice report Warmstone. I had one room with Alessandra about three years ago. She is friendly.

Sure NN, I would choose different days if I could, but business travel dictates the schedule. That said, fair point to not judge too harshly based on a single day. And in fact, tonight was Artemis redemption night. (bearing in mind it was good the other night, but had some of the sharkiness other's have noted). Went around 11 PM and stayed till four (Tuesday night).

Wasn't there more than 10 minutes before Salome found me. God, that girl is good looking. And on balance I had a really nice time with her on Sunday, brief though it was. I forgot to mention she is a real pro at what she does and as my first visit after a week of abstinence, on Sunday, she literally had me ready to come in 5 minutes. She was actually pretty understanding and took direction to stave that off, but still had me blowing at the 15 minute mark.

Tonight, she wiggled up to me at the bar and we kinda just body to body rubbed a bit and I was ready for a room. This being my 7th session in 3 days, it was not like the first one. I told her no kissing, so it was only going to be 110 but she upsold me in the room on cum in tittle fuck and go nice and slow. Still we only took twentyish minutes for the actual deed. She gives a great BJ, has a wonderful feeling pussy, is super sexy and accommodating and has an unmatched tittle fuck finish. Very happy to spend 160 for her quality.

Took a short nap and had a massage, which was quite good. Not long after re-entering the bar area, my other girl from Sunday, Karina found me. God, she is cute too. It was a little early for another room, but she convinced me. We went for a 160 half including kissing, which again was sexy if not top notch. In the room it was really comfortable. She tried to sell me the prostate thing again, but not very hard. In general good BJ and nice sex in a few positions tho for some reason her pussy doesn't feel as nice as Salomes. The funny part of this experience was I was terribly hard to finish. At one point nearing the time limit I went to take things in my own hands and she said "No! I will keel you!" And she meant it, swatting my hands away. Even five minutes later I was ready to call it, but she persisted -- "here, touch my pussy" etc while she kept on. She ran a serious 10-15 minutes over the half hour and got it done! Now that is a gal for me!

She said no more sex for me, and that was the plan. I went downstairs and was just going to hang out. Way in the back there is a seating area and stage. It was 215 by now and the girls had a couple of bottles of champagne and probably 15 of them were putting on a dance party. Honestly it was so much fun to watch these girls having such a great time. All of them pretty much naked and dancing up a storm and really truly joyful. I watched for probably 45 minutes and was just struck by the spirit of the whole thing. It was awesome.

I have to admit all this sexy tit shaking got me turned on, but I was pretty sure one girl would not be able to finish the deed at this point. I ran into a smoking hot Bulgarian girl. Just the slimmest frame and lovely well done lips. I told her I didn't really want to pay for kissing because of my bad experiences and she said she could change my mind. She melted my mind with her sexiness, but also offered kissing for 20. So that sealed the deal. So 130 was the plan. We had her friend join who was a bit more milfy, but not unattractive. She was also 130. Had a really solid time with these two. I guess the 20 doesn't get you DATY or much FIV, which seemed to be included in other girls 50 for kissing add on. But that was ok. Having two girls we were pretty busy kissing (both were good!) and getting BJ.

They did go for the CIM upsell and it being two of them would be 100. Which I declined. The "mom" was smart enough to then back it off to just the young girls mouth at 50 and I took the offer. It was really sort of amusing to, watch the interaction. Mom did a bit of BJ coaching with her young charge and this was sort of sexy. She also did dirty talk in my ear like "fill her mouth with you cum". (good English!) and boy that girl was a trooper. Kept at it strong and with a bit of manual assist, our little trio accomplished the impossible 9th shot.

Really I have to say I really enjoyed tonight. Having two go-to girls helped a lot and I got lucky on the duo. And the vibe and scene with the dancing was just great. Really nice time at Artemis tonight!