Medellin Reports

i don't know reefski or mhl, but i definitely have to agree with them on this argument. only a fool tries to make a wg an esposa or novia (or even worse a western union novia). also, obviously no one wishes geraldine any harm, but no one knows for sure what goes on inside her crazy mind so all the psycho-babbling (anal) yzing and eastern philosophical mumbo jumbo means nothing but wasted ether. while i only took psych 101 in college, it seems awfully passive / aggressive to attack someone on here and then use the tag line "only good energy". btw, whenever this happens on the this thread i can't help but think of the stephen bishop guitar scene in animal house where he's singing a dumb song and then john belushi (bluto) walks by and pauses to hear the ridiculous lyrics and then smashes the guitar into pieces. either that or i want to punch ghandi in the face so please give the "only good energy" thing a rest, lol.

in regard to eastern things, smokkee you seem like a decent guy so no offense but it's a whipping with your ocd'ing over the whole asian predator vs. prey thing. guess what? unless you look latin and speak fluent espanol. you're a tourist and subject to the same good or bad treatment and accompanying gringo taxations. like others have said better, money is king so just don't let it run out. otherwise be confident, respectful and don't go looking for trouble and it probably won't find you. and more than likely you will have a great time. however, imho any man that comes on the colombian forum asking whether he should bring a wingman or if he's prey for colombian thugs is probably not very secure in himself. so for you, i would humby recommend the hotel del ray in san jose, costa rica or just head straight to the hotel medellin plaza. it's a very well run establishment and a can't lose deal plus you can probably find a wingman or even a posse there, lol.

in regard to demi moore and posse's, on my first trip to colombia i was fortunate enough to meet her 4 or 5 times. on two of those occasions 4 or 5 regulars from cb1 and cb2 invited me and my date to join them and their dates for dinner and drinks on the town. demi was the date of a cool guy and regular at cb1 and i was amazed at how he pretty much kept her in check both nights which imo is next to mission impossible. but he was a confident guy and would give her this look from time to time and so she never went fully on tilt. ok maybe a little, lol! so the first night we had a great meal, the alcohol flowed and then we all went to face dos to continue the festivities. demi was definitely the alpha female and the life of the party. but she also did a great job of keeping our bar bills in check (the bars always try to get over on you) and the other girls too. anyhow we were all getting very drunk, watching the strippers, laughing and having fun when demi seized the absolute perfect moment to stand up in the middle of our group, raise her glass and yell to seemingly everyone in the club " i like to party, i like to fuck and i like to suck dick!". needless to say everyone, even the chicas absolutely fell out laughing. the next night most of the same group met up and and this time demi showed up with her hair done, nice makeup, a sexy top and jeans. and have to say she looked damn good. so we all had a great meal and we're all going to head back to cb1 but demi and the girls decided we should go to mangos so off we went. mangos was crowded, but we had a table in the center so we could see everything and everyone got drunk, had fun but no drunken demi. glaze speeches, jajaja. that week i went to mangos twice and to me it was nothing special except for all the mini me's running around a crowded club. otherwise, there weren't many other tourists mostly locals and, no, it didn't look thugged up. just my 4 cents.

[quote=legal tender; 1308654]i see that my brief defense of demi moore has rattled the cage of two of the major provocateurs, mhl and reef. frankly, one's opinion reveals much more about the opinionated than one that is being judged. the anger, disdain and negativity indicates a strong misogynistic bent. the thesis of these two emotional eruptions is wrong. people can change. after all, commitment is a choice and sex workers can commit to change their lifestyles. now, i don't have any personal knowledge (and neither do mhl or reef) of demi's present situation. don't we all wish her a secure and tranquil life? or, is anger and hostility that colors those opinions, and your lives, in general? i wonder. i wonder if she would want to introduce her mother and grandmother to either of you.

certainly, i used some license in describing her exit from sex work, but evidently her life has not turned out as she had envisioned. who knows? it is certainly not responsible to ask anyone to rely on "what was reported on another board." i never experienced, in the few times that i spent with demi, that she wanted to do anything but fuck and suck me like she meant it. i do suppose that there are some that she would show disrespect and disinterest to the point of continually being distracted by her phone.

you two need it, more than an 18 year old beautiful paisa that wants to pleasure you, so i'm wishing. .

only good energy!

* originally posted by miamiheatluver [view original post]

what a crock of shit, yeah? then the gringo she's with now must be a real fucking pato, western union baboso, because some monger on another forum just a few weeks back wrote on how he just banged her. she would be juggling phone calls, answering the phone in another room, turn the phone off, let it go to voicemail. the usual puta bs.

time and time again "can't make a ho a housewife" but then again who would be wanting geraldine as a housewife? introducing her to your mom? granny? kids? you would have to purell them all! jejejejeje lol.

only good energy! yeah i'm sure.

* originally posted by reefski [view original post]

jajajaa. knowing both parties involved, i'm sure that neither one ever envisioned quite the scenario you laid out. but hey, life goes on. she's back at doing what she does best and he's moved onto the next paisa hottie.

but i'm sure that chica you send $ to every month is "different".

reef.

btw, when are you giving that gay tag line a rest?

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1308654]I see that my brief defense of Demi Moore has rattled the cage of two of the major provocateurs, MHL and Reef. Frankly, one's opinion reveals much more about the opinionated than one that is being judged. The anger, disdain and negativity indicates a strong misogynistic bent. The thesis of these two emotional eruptions is wrong. People can change. After all, commitment is a choice and sex workers can commit to change their lifestyles. Now, I don't have any personal knowledge (and neither do MHL or Reef) of Demi's present situation. Don't we all wish her a secure and tranquil life? Or, is anger and hostility that colors those opinions, and your lives, in general? I wonder. I wonder if she would want to introduce her mother and grandmother to either of you.

Certainly, I used some license in describing her exit from sex work, but evidently her life has not turned out as she had envisioned. Who knows? It is certainly not responsible to ask anyone to rely on "what was reported on another board." I never experienced, in the few times that I spent with Demi, that she wanted to do anything but fuck and suck me like she meant it. I do suppose that there are some that she would show disrespect and disinterest to the point of continually being distracted by her phone.

You two need it, more than an 18 year old beautiful Paisa that wants to pleasure you, so I'm wishing. .

ONLY GOOD ENERGY![/QUOTE]Nobody is wishing Geraldine any harm, no one is judging her, you made a statement that "Demi has moved on, and is now out of the business" and I'm telling you that that was complete bullshit with PROOF! Can people change? Sure they can! Has Demi? Definitely not, she is the typical bandida player try trying to make anymore out of it under the guise of some psycho-analytic bullshit tagline "only good energy" is complete bullshit and futile. I don't know why you feel that you think you need to over analyze things when its not needed, just call a spade a spade and accept things as they are! I mean WTF!

You know what? You're probably the douche bag on the other end of the phone she talking to while riding some dick, sending her money and attempting to "cover the sun with one finger" jejejejejejejjeje LOL and as far as Misogonistic undertones go I am no woman hater on the contrary I am a woman LOVER and many many of them I might add!

Like Reef said later I plan on releasing some "good energies" I'm the form of a creampie!

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1308654]I see that my brief defense of Demi Moore has rattled the cage of two of the major provocateurs, MHL and Reef. Frankly, one's opinion reveals much more about the opinionated than one that is being judged. The anger, disdain and negativity indicates a strong misogynistic bent. The thesis of these two emotional eruptions is wrong. People can change. After all, commitment is a choice and sex workers can commit to change their lifestyles. Now, I don't have any personal knowledge (and neither do MHL or Reef) of Demi's present situation. Don't we all wish her a secure and tranquil life? Or, is anger and hostility that colors those opinions, and your lives, in general? I wonder. I wonder if she would want to introduce her mother and grandmother to either of you.

Certainly, I used some license in describing her exit from sex work, but evidently her life has not turned out as she had envisioned. Who knows? It is certainly not responsible to ask anyone to rely on "what was reported on another board." I never experienced, in the few times that I spent with Demi, that she wanted to do anything but fuck and suck me like she meant it. I do suppose that there are some that she would show disrespect and disinterest to the point of continually being distracted by her phone.

You two need it, more than an 18 year old beautiful Paisa that wants to pleasure you, so I'm wishing. .

ONLY GOOD ENERGY![/QUOTE]All this talk of Demi reminds me of the two times I had her in Mayorista. She at that time (2010) was working out of the Mansion but on those two times she came to the Mayo instead of the 150k she went for 30K as she knew well the going rate for the area. The first night I let her call a Western Union Novio on my Magic Jack. I also let her use my laptop for quite a while. It was a great sight to see her on her stomach using the PC with her legs curled up almost touching her butt. She was happy with the way I treated her, and stayed till the next afternoon after I gave her breakfast. I got her again later on that same long trip I was on, but she only stayed a couple of hours that time. Anyway the point that no one has brought up is that she always provided a outstanding BBBJ with no need to even have to ask for it. Since I have last seen her I have heard many different storys about her escapades, and one thing for sure with this girl there is no boredom when you sample her wares. I think of girls like her, and Porn Star, and then I walk in a mall in Sex Prison, and see all the spoiled Gorditas, and I think how nuts I am for not living in a Latin American country. Dumb and Dumber have nothing on me.

Sorry Gents for sending out a old report, but I felt this board needed a break from the usual bickering. In the long run IMHO all we really want is honest trip reports.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1308774]Nobody is wishing Geraldine any harm, no one is judging her .ie![/QUOTE]Demi, just like about all working girls, go through the evolution.

From new, fun, sweet girl to more hardened pro.

I always liked her as a person. I treated her like a friend and we got along great.

I wish the best for her and her kid.
If a guy wants to make a go out of making her or any working girl his girlfriend, well that's his business, and I wish him luck.
Might not have the best odds, but I don't subscribe to saying that No working girl can be tamed, you just can't be a dummy about it.

Don't understand the anger really.

I personally enjoy the talk of "good energy" :)

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1308784]Demi, just like about all working girls, go through the evolution.

From new, fun, sweet girl to more hardened pro.

I always liked her as a person. I treated her like a friend and we got along great.

I wish the best for her and her kid.

If a guy wants to make a go out of making her or any working girl his girlfriend, well that's his business, and I wish him luck.

Might not have the best odds, but I don't subscribe to saying that No working girl can be tamed, you just can't be a dummy about it.

Don't understand the anger really.

I personally enjoy the talk of "good energy".[/QUOTE]True That Ricker! +1000.

I'm sure some of the hater tried and failed to secure Demi or what ever her name is or was and could not. Feeling rejected they throw dirt on her name.

Never met the girl, never fucked her, don't know the Dude she married or hooked up with but I do wish them all the best in their new adventure to find true happiness.

So much cry-baby & Hater mentality on this board, you don't see it on the other ISG boards, not to this level of childishness. All the Parque Lleres haters must have their oxygen tubes in a twist because their fixed income check is late! Hahahhah

Demi Moore,
I've seen more of her than anyone.
Love her or hate her, I like her when she is sober and hate her when she is drunk.
I've thrown her out and kissed her on the cheek when she arrives.
Not very often she goes without business when she's here which is three, four times a week.
Every body to there own but I haven't heard she has a gringo who wants to take her to the next step, if she has, poor bastard!
A. G.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1308784]Demi, just like about all working girls, go through the evolution.

From new, fun, sweet girl to more hardened pro.

I always liked her as a person. I treated her like a friend and we got along great.

I wish the best for her and her kid.

If a guy wants to make a go out of making her or any working girl his girlfriend, well that's his business, and I wish him luck.

Might not have the best odds, but I don't subscribe to saying that No working girl can be tamed, you just can't be a dummy about it.

Don't understand the anger really.

I personally enjoy the talk of "good energy".[/QUOTE]I always wonder who strays first, the exworking girl or the exmonger?

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1308872]I always wonder who strays first, the exworking girl or the exmonger?[/QUOTE]I would say the exmonger but there is no such thing as either. Once a hoe always a hoe and CERTAINLY once a monger always a monger.

A couple million hot chics in Medellin, and you guys are arguing over one of them.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1308873]I would say the exmonger but there is no such thing as either. Once a hoe always a hoe and CERTAINLY once a monger always a monger.[/QUOTE]Monger for sure. Ho's are having sex for money. Doesn't mean they like fukking for free with lots of guys. Sluts, on the other hand, you need to watch out for. They like to fukk for free. Mongers are sluts.

[QUOTE=Ronin1;1308689]In regard to Eastern things, Smokkee you seem like a decent guy so no offense but it's a whipping with your OCD'ing over the whole Asian Predator vs. Prey thing. Guess what? Unless you look latin and speak fluent espanol. You're a tourist and subject to the same good or bad treatment and accompanying gringo taxations. Like others have said better, money is king so just don't let it run out. Otherwise be confident, respectful and don't go looking for trouble and it probably won't find you. And more than likely you will have a great time. However, IMHO any man that comes on the Colombian forum asking whether he should bring a wingman or if he's prey for Colombian thugs is probably not very secure in himself. So for you, I would humby recommend the Hotel Del Ray in San Jose, Costa Rica or just head straight to the Hotel Medellin Plaza. It's a very well run establishment and a can't lose deal plus you can probably find a wingman or even a posse there, LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. No offense taken. Not sure why people take stuff so personally around here, sounds like everyone is getting nice Colombian babes! Smoke a doob and chill out, I know I will!

I just want to thank you guys for "sticking to the script" over here on CRT. I don't post here much, but I am a long time member over at ISG and the Medellin forum over there is utterly useless due to all of the bickering and constant "protectionism" of certain establishments over others.

I can honestly say that I have gotten 95% of all the info I need on MDE from CRT alone. It's nice to be able to read some trip reports for a change (most people don't bother to post them anymore on the ISG MDE forum due to constant flaming).

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G'day Gent's,

I am looking for a chica friendly Hotel in El Centro.

Thanks

[quote=miamiheatluver;1308044]phew, frank thanks for creating this handle and attempting to clear things up, you wouldn't want a bad reputation or rumors being spread about now would you?[/quote]miami heat luver, you don't know one thing about me. but you already disrespect me. i am not frank casio. frank is puerto rican, i am a large black man. several on this board know me and have had a drink with me in medellin. one person on this board even flew in with me on my last trip. i have seen all you white boys in medellin; mainly hanging out in parque lleras. very rarely do i see any of you at the clubs. so for you to assume that i am frank posting is a crock. i speak spanish very well. i don't monger, just love medellin. i am not above paying a girl or being generous. i just don't have to indulge. too many women who are hot there just want attention. the reason i don't post a great deal is because of all this bs on this board. i personally have posted before. so go check your history and you will see that i am not frank and did not create a log in just to defend frank. the problem is if somebody does not agree with you "so called experts," then the insults begin. i have traveled all over the world. i don't need a babysitter anywhere. on my second trip completely by myself; i hired william z and he showed me everything i need. you have your opinions and i have mine. doesn't make you right if you disagree, just different opinion. as i stated previously, can't we all get along. i live in tampa; which is how and why i can drop by frank's anytime that i want. we don't hang out a lot in tampa. i run a business and it consumes my time. but when i can and as often as i can i go to medellin. you don't have to live there or go every week to know medellin. i have only encountered a few level headed people on this board. ricker, cheerep001, to name a few. cheerep001 and i are personal friends. met on a plane ride back to the us. so i repeat, respect my right to disagree. honor my opinion, because my comments are only directed to those who want real unbiased information. if you read my post you will see that they are all not pro frank, but i tell the truth. medellin is fantastic, let's not ruin it or the board by spreading lies or disrespect. frank is different, but a good guy who is as a very big help to the newbie, who is on a budget. he is always telling me to take the metro, but screw that, i can afford taxi's. so there is an example of why i don't listen to everything frank says. i like mayo. you have to be careful everywhere in medellin, but may o is cool. i prefer the food in other parts. my favorite area is laureles (sp) if i were to ever get my own apartment, i would get one close to uni central mall area in laureles.

so again, chill i am not frank. frank is not in jail or under indictment. i will be back either in august or september or october. trying to work it out now. come meet me for a cocktail and you will see that i am twice the size of frank.

peace / cheers

So far I've been fucking non pros all this time in Medellin, the enjoyment I got from non pros is no question memorable and I find them incomparable to casa girls or street walkers. Of course they are not virgins, but penetrating them, I found them to be a lot tighter than regular prostitutes. And the total girlfriend sex is outstanding without any doubt. The only thing I found is, after a while they become like a wife and too demanding, they argue too much and I had to to deal with their temper when things don't go their way. Money wise is not worth it. It is becoming too costly paying their expenses. Will I consider casa? Picking working girls off the streets, Internet prepagos! I don't know, I never did. My only experience in Medellin had been with non pros that I meet anywhere in their work place, on the bus, metro, park, you name it.

[QUOTE=Ronin1;1308997]you say you've gained 95% of your Colombian information on CRT than your situation seems easily resolved.[/QUOTE]He said he read it from a post in CRT. That means he did not write it. He only copied and pasted it onto this thread. I think you're barking at the wrong tree. Be gentle.

Cheers.

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[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1309265]In light of his writings, I am not sure if he understands your explanation.[/QUOTE]Matt for a guy who is always claiming "being picked on" "being a target of racial epithets" "being the victim" you sure don't seem to mind "throwing in your 2 cents" whenever you feel like you want to.

Which is completely fine, just make sure you have thick enough skin to TAKE IT as well and not cry about it when the smack you spit in the wind comes back in your face!

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[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1309279]Matt for a guy who is always claiming "being picked on" "being a target of racial epithets" "being the victim" you sure don't seem to mind "throwing in your 2 cents" whenever you feel like you want to.

Which is completely fine, just make sure you have thick enough skin to TAKE IT as well and not cry about it when the smack you spit in the wind comes back in your face![/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure he has you on his " Ignore" list, but I wouldn't want him to miss such a good response. He probably will add me also, but that's cool. Very soon he will be getting a message saying his ignore list is full LOL.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1308784]Demi, just like about all working girls, go through the evolution.

From new, fun, sweet girl to more hardened pro.

I always liked her as a person. I treated her like a friend and we got along great.

I wish the best for her and her kid.

If a guy wants to make a go out of making her or any working girl his girlfriend, well that's his business, and I wish him luck.

Might not have the best odds, but I don't subscribe to saying that No working girl can be tamed, you just can't be a dummy about it.

Don't understand the anger really.

I personally enjoy the talk of "good energy".[/QUOTE]I'm w / Ricker, why the anger? These women have it rough. They get treated like shit by Colombian men, their own police force, and their own government. They have very little hope for a happy future except to be working poor people. So they sell their affections, humor and heavenly bodies (not religious) to the locals and the foreigners. If the tables were turned and men were in their predicament would we be any different? Would we not do all the things they do now that bother us.

[Quote]She would be juggling phone calls, answering the phone in another room, turn the phone off, let it go to voicemail. The usual puta BS.

[Quote]If the lady is too nice she will be taken advantage of. If she is a hardened pro she will not be taken advantage of as much but she will lose a little business. I would say it is a hard balancing act that they have to do in order to make us happy and at the same time protect themselves. We will never be able to walk in their shoes so how can we be so brutal in our opinions of them? I am a womanizer, I want to make love to as many of these beauties as I can. This Demi Moore babe is the cream of the crop from the stories I read here. She should be revered here and have the best wishes of all that she has entertained. Whether she can or really wants to change from being a hooker is a huge challenge for a girl who REALLY loves fucking. I say stick w / the fucking and start saving some pesos, jaja. Cheers gents and ease up on the anger, have a smoke. We are so fucking lucky it's not funny, jaja. S

Geeee, loosen up guys.

I know I'm bad at times but just latley you guys have the cake!

A. G.

Are you the one who wrote one of those books of existentialist philosophy?

[QUOTE=Ronin1; 1309228]EZ tiger, yourself. And, uhh, what's your point? So what's the difference between copying, pasting and posting another person's opinion versus simply posting your own opinion to make the same point? With respect, that logic is lost on me Ezyngo. His message was the same and they always shoot the messenger or the messenger dies, coincidentally, like the original Marathon as the Olympic competitions begin today, LOL. Lastly, to post a quote from somebody else who's an unknown source is both protectionist and lame. At least most on here have the nuts to post their own opinions and accept the consequences.

Maybe I'm wrong, but to me the true purpose of this site is for heterosexual men who APPRECIATE beautiful women in general (adult women of all kinds and not just WGs) and like to persue and spend time with women in a different country / countries and to compare or share this information with other like minded individuals. Obviously only speak for myself, but IMHO all the bellyaching, whining and sermonizing is a whipping so I'm merely calling the shots as I see them. In any case, I don't consider myself a "gentle" guy and hell I don't even like typing the word now, LOL. So maybe you, Tweedle-whatever, the women haters, all the overly analytical or philosophical sermonizers, the whiny, nut-less, insecure guys who recently seem to be flocking to the Colombian forum and want to turn it into a Dr. Phil "communal circle jerk" session should consider heeding the Olympic credo of Olympians and real men alike: "Citius, Altius, Fortius!"

Put simply. There's no crying in women chasing. Just my 4 cents.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1309446]Geeee, loosen up guys.

I know I'm bad at times but just latley you guys have the cake!

A. G.[/QUOTE]You're not kidding Aussie!

This Colombia site, especially Medellin, has gotten a bit ridiculous with personal vendettas and useless attacks.

Hey I have a great idea; why don't we post reports and have healthy debates on issues.

There are guys with lots of experience, and different ideas. The FUN here used to be sharing these experiences and stories and giving good advice.

It'd be nice to return to that.

To be honest, it really is about respect and good energy as one of our amigos aqui says quite often.

There's enough bad and negativity in the world at times, why add to it?

We're all adventurers. Not just everyone picks up and heads to Colombia.

Let's share our stories, adventures and advice and opinions in a cool way.

I appreciate your insights and everything you stated is correct. But the problem we are having is a problem to implement your idea.

We all know that many people used to post reports, some of which were pretty good, but there are a few members who constantly attack these reports. We all know who they are. Members do not post reports because they do not have "thick skin" to accept these attacks. Many members are exchanging info via PM or other threads and avoiding angry flamers. Again, thank you for your keen advice.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1309518]Hey I have a great idea; why don't we post reports and have healthy debates on issues.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Socker; 1309327]I'm w / Ricker, why the anger? These women have it rough. They get treated like shit by Colombian men, their own police force, and their own government. They have very little hope for a happy future except to be working poor people. So they sell their affections, humor and heavenly bodies (not religious) to the locals and the foreigners. If the tables were turned and men were in their predicament would we be any different? Would we not do all the things they do now that bother us.

[Quote]She would be juggling phone calls, answering the phone in another room, turn the phone off, let it go to voicemail. The usual puta BS.

[Quote]If the lady is too nice she will be taken advantage of. If she is a hardened pro she will not be taken advantage of as much but she will lose a little business. I would say it is a hard balancing act that they have to do in order to make us happy and at the same time protect themselves. We will never be able to walk in their shoes so how can we be so brutal in our opinions of them? I am a womanizer, I want to make love to as many of these beauties as I can. This Demi Moore babe is the cream of the crop from the stories I read here. She should be revered here and have the best wishes of all that she has entertained. Whether she can or really wants to change from being a hooker is a huge challenge for a girl who REALLY loves fucking. I say stick w / the fucking and start saving some pesos, jaja. Cheers gents and ease up on the anger, have a smoke. We are so fucking lucky it's not funny, jaja. S[/QUOTE]Finally an expression of compassion for these beautiful women that give us so much pleasure. Some may believe that to be compassionate is to be "unmanly". So be it. I agree in spirit with Socker's thought, with one exception. Sadly, I've never met a Paisa that ever saves for tomorrow. Today is all that exists in their lives. That is all most of them have ever known. So they offer their bodies for money. Generally they worry about tomorrow, but do little to prepare for it. Ability and willingness to feel compassion leads to tranquility and good karma. Now that's good energy. Hell, even Aussie Greg spends untold hours (and plata) helping out some of the many poor, poor children in Medellin.

Having written that, I say "fuck you" to everyone who wrote bad shit about Demi. Auggie Greg reports that she stills shows up at the Mansion and is in demand. The Capitalistic system works. I rest my case. In fact, I'm going to be in Medellin in early September and plan to do my best to hook up with Demi, as "unfresh" as she may be to see if she's still got what it takes. Hopefully I can get some photos. A girl who is acknowledged to love to "fuck and suck" certainly has he right attitude. And, I'm going to make a nice contribution to AG's charity.

Good energy is not just a tag line. It's what I try to live by.

"The year I turned ninety, I wanted to give myself the gift of a night of wild love with an adolescent virgin. I thought of Rosa Cabarcas, the owner of an illicit house who would inform her good clients when she had a new girl available. I never succumbed to that or any of her many other lewd temptations, but she did not believe in the purity of my principles. Morality, too, in a question of time, she would say with a malevolent smile, you'll see. She was a little younger than I, and I hadn't heard anything about her for so many years that she very well might have died. But after the first ring I recognized the voice on the phone, and with no preambles - - -"

These are the opening lines of Gabriel Garcia Marquez's " Memories of my Melancholy Who*es." Marquez was born in Aracataca, Colombia and was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1982. This short novel is lustrously written. For Marquez, the brothel functions as a more important human institution than church or state, the male organ as a catalyst in every drama, and virginity as a pregnant theme.

It's a wonderful excursion into the the life and mind of a fellow monger. I highly recommend it.

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Well, as much as I would like to take another jab at some of the more pretentious posts here on this site, I thought it might be better to share a few pics from the last month. No quotes from a Noble prize winner, just semi naked Paisas.

Reef.

This next batch includes pics of one of my new favorites things to do in Medellin; 'the naked pedicure'. It's so much better to have sex with well trimmed toenails.

Reef

Here's the last set for now. Sorry about the cropped out faces. Some girls care, some don't.

Reef

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Reefski,

Nice job man! And thanks for not posting rubbish!

It seems you stayed at the mansion, are these all mansion girls?

BS

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1309596]Here's the last set for now. Sorry about the cropped out faces. Some girls care, some don't.

Reef[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1309596]Here's the last set for now. Sorry about the cropped out faces. Some girls care, some don't.

Reef[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your delightful treasures with us bro you have a little of everything in your current harem! ME LIKEY!

P. S. Please don't tell me you bring and wear your submariner to Colombia (I can spot one a mile away) jajajaja thats one thing I DON'T do! You gots balls of steel bro LOL! Stay well!

Thanks for sharing! This is what the forum should be about.

Great pics Reefski. I see that all the dudes bitching about negativity on this board did'nt even bother to say" Thank you" for the nice pics you posted. Thought I would take time to edit some photos to show my thanks bro.

Here are some more I just took time to edit. Now you see why I don't do casas guys. I like to play house. They dress the part and play the role. I get my show then we fuck. Then we lay around the house naked and fuck again. Then we wrestle, play tag, cuddle, laugh and then the final fuck. Try that at a casa. And I usually pay less than the casas charge. Naturally I pay for a pizza or some snacks. Sure I bring the outfits they wear that they keep. But thats the way I roll, I have fun with it. So if you see girls wearing these outfits, thank Gogo.

[quote=playing the game;1307458]not sure why you would say it is rediculous, unless you, matty psycotic, another supporter of frank have something going on with him, which is entirely possible i guess. you never know these days. as you can see from my posting history i stayed at his place previously, actually on two occasions, and posted about the great experience i had the first time, but on the 2nd occasion he had **** girls over and _____ needless to say i packed my things up and went and checked into a hotel, as i would not put myself in that type of situation, and these were very very young looking girls, and i still remember his comment when i mentioned this to him."old enough to breed, old enough to bleed". he was also always joking around with gay comments, so this if it is true does not surprise me, but hopefully it is not, but. he is a real sicko that is for sure.[/quote]jackson keeps a permanent record of all the posts here, and in that spirit, i'd like to keep the record straight on urban wildlife who has several handles running at the moment; playing the game, flying frenchman and deltapilot1. its not a glamorous job, keeping track of a serial antagonist, but records are important.

urban does seem to have a problem with mr. casio lately. i'm trying to locate that post where a monger that was with urban wildlife witnessed urban get drunk and get naked in front of all the guys. the poster was incredulous. so was i. now back to the field reports.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1309694]Great pics Reefski. I see that all the dudes bitching about negativity on this board did'nt even bother to say" Thank you" for the nice pics you posted. Thought I would take time to edit some photos to show my thanks bro.[/QUOTE]Those are nice!

Thanks. Most are Mansion girls but some are FB friends. All are WG's, although whatever shade of grey you define pro, semi-pro or "normal" girl in MDE is up for debate.

Reef.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1309651]Reefski,

Nice job man! And thanks for not posting rubbish!

It seems you stayed at the mansion, are these all mansion girls?

BS[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1309741]Thanks. Most are Mansion girls but some are FB friends. All are WG's, although whatever shade of grey you define pro, semi-pro or "normal" girl in MDE is up for debate.

Reef.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your photos. Beautiful Paisas and you've got a good eye with the camera. Looks like everyone involved was having a good time.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1309694]Great pics Reefski. I see that all the dudes bitching about negativity on this board did'nt even bother to say" Thank you" for the nice pics you posted. Thought I would take time to edit some photos to show my thanks bro.[/QUOTE]Thanks Reef & Goo! Maybe this will stop all the pissing matches! atGoo Have you ever seen the Jonny Depp movie "Blow"? He's walking through customs and they check his bag and find womens panties and JD replies "Old Habbits.". Well I imagine that's what it's like for you traveling through customs with a case full of cute outfits for the gilrs!

Thank you both again!

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1309589]Well, as much as I would like to take another jab at some of the more pretentious posts here on this site, I thought it might be better to share a few pics from the last month. No quotes from a Noble prize winner, just semi naked Paisas.

Reef.[/QUOTE]Greeat fotos Reef!

I even recognize a girl or two.

You always seem to be having fun!

Thanks for posting!

Has me thinking about a return soon.

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1309741]Thanks. Most are Mansion girls but some are FB friends. All are WG's, although whatever shade of grey you define pro, semi-pro or "normal" girl in MDE is up for debate.

Reef.[/QUOTE]Nice pics of the Medellin hotties. Looks like some serious fun was had, haha. Life is good. Down thERE. Thanks Reefski

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1309732]Those are nice![/QUOTE]My pleasure Sir, atleast someone appreciated them. But to tell you the truth, I should've followed what the vets always told me and operate behind the scenes with info and pics. Guys here are ungrateful as shit. You want the real reason why the board is going down hill? It's because guys are always trying to " Take.", but always cry when guys don't give. Medellin is my favorite place besides Sosua, but I hope you ungrateful bitches never go there.

Reef, so you had a session with my girlfriend when I went on that day trip!
She tasted like shit when I got home, what did you do to her!

A. G.

Reefski should get paid by the tourism board. Those photos are very persuasive.

Just had a great session with one I met around Metro Poblado that I hadn't talked to two in a few months. Told me she had a boyfriend for a few months, lost her phone and somehow lost me in facebook. After the session I asked if she had written down my number or something because its been a long time since we talked, she said, o no I just remembered it! I'm lucky if I can remember my own phone number let alone anyone's from several months ago. These girls aren't dumb but I would put that in the category of street smart. Also after asking to add me back in facebook I had to go into her's and unblock me. The boyfriend is no dummy either!

[QUOTE=Smokhee2003;1310016]Reefski should get paid by the tourism board. Those photos are very persuasive.[/QUOTE]Even more reason for you to crash there! One stop shopping and the area is as safe as you can get in Colombia IMO.

Is this in the mansion? What room is this? Nice pics.

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1309589]Well, as much as I would like to take another jab at some of the more pretentious posts here on this site, I thought it might be better to share a few pics from the last month. No quotes from a Noble prize winner, just semi naked Paisas.

Reef.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1309741]Thanks. Most are Mansion girls but some are FB friends. All are WG's, although whatever shade of grey you define pro, semi-pro or "normal" girl in MDE is up for debate.

Reef.[/QUOTE]Hey that girl in the black dress is stunning, is she at the MDE?

Wow, I gott get myself to Medellin.

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1310232]Hey that girl in the black dress is stunning, is she at the MDE?

Wow, I gott get myself to Medellin.[/QUOTE]MDE is the abbreviation for the city of Medellin. I think you meant to say HMP (Hotel Medellin Plaza)

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1310258]MDE is the abbreviation for the city of Medellin. I think you meant to say HMP (Hotel Medellin Plaza)[/QUOTE]Thanks, actually I meant to say MDM Medellin Mansion, pero thats beside the point anyone can confirm if she works there or where?

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1309592]This next batch includes pics of one of my new favorites things to do in Medellin; 'the naked pedicure'. It's so much better to have sex with well trimmed toenails.

Reef[/QUOTE]The one in the black dress is amazing!

I met some gringos last night on the strip. One of them was quoted 100K COP for 4 hours. He asked me if the price was decent. I took a look at the chica: look = 7 body=7 then told him I've never done anything like that before but thought the price was ok and told him so. He probably was a budget-conscious monger and hence refused to seal the deal. Not sure whom he ended up taking or doing anything.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1310694]I met some gringos last night on the strip. One of them was quoted 100K COP for 4 hours. He asked me if the price was decent. I took a look at the chica: look = 7 body=7 then told him I've never done anything like that before but thought the price was ok and told him so. He probably was a budget-conscious monger and hence refused to seal the deal. Not sure whom he ended up taking or doing anything.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I've pulled a 7 off that strip for 50k for two hours, We both parted extremely satisfied! I got my balls drained, she got a bit of spending money, I don't have any judgements on other guys choices as to whether or not to pull the trigger, I'm guessing he'd probably already had gotten in three or four sessions. Also, it doesn't bother me the least bit if a guy does only 30k sessions or if he never does less than 150k sessions, Its all about having fun! I know most guys Love the younger girls, but I've found tossing in a forty-something once in a while adds to the Medellin experience. Its all about having fun!

Guys, if your interested, we are going to in the future have an open day for people who are not staying with us to come and have a few drinks and have a look at the new La Cueva bar at Hotel Medellin Plaza.

Please, those interested let me know so we can start a list and set a date.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1310956]Guys, if your interested, we are going to in the future have an open day for people who are not staying with us to come and have a few drinks and have a look at the new La Cueva bar at Hotel Medellin Plaza.

Please, those interested let me know so we can start a list and set a date.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Maybe, you could charge a cover to non guests, That way you get something out of it, the monger gets a "freelancers" type Bar with a bit of class, And the chicas get to meet super swell guys like myself! Everybody wins

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1310956]Guys, if your interested, we are going to in the future have an open day for people who are not staying with us to come and have a few drinks and have a look at the new La Cueva bar at Hotel Medellin Plaza.

Please, those interested let me know so we can start a list and set a date.

A. G.[/QUOTE]As an upcoming guest staying at HMP, I was wondering if it would be asking to much if we (upcoming guests) could receive fair and proper warning as to when this future "open day for people who are not staying with us" is to take place. The last scenario I would hope for is to walk into the Cave and all of the top talent has been carted off by the non-guests, leaving the actual guests to rummage through the left overs.

That, or walking into a sausage-fest (the "Johns" in the Cave outnumbering the "Pros").

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1311123]As an upcoming guest staying at HMP, I was wondering if it would be asking to much if we (upcoming guests) could receive fair and proper warning as to when this future "open day for people who are not staying with us" is to take place. The last scenario I would hope for is to walk into the Cave and all of the top talent has been carted off by the non-guests, leaving the actual guests to rummage through the left overs.

That, or walking into a sausage-fest (the "Johns" in the Cave outnumbering the "Pros").[/QUOTE]I agree with this. I can understand the logic of doing this kind of thing every once in a while. But if it is on a regular basis, it takes away the value of lodging there.

[QUOTE=Combo;1311133]I agree with this. I can understand the logic of doing this kind of thing every once in a while. But if it is on a regular basis, it takes away the value of lodging there.[/QUOTE]Well said. I hope Greg will make sure that extra female guests are on hand. The "sausage" fest is no fun.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1311123]As an upcoming guest staying at HMP, I was wondering if it would be asking to much if we (upcoming guests) could receive fair and proper warning as to when this future "open day for people who are not staying with us" is to take place. The last scenario I would hope for is to walk into the Cave and all of the top talent has been carted off by the non-guests, leaving the actual guests to rummage through the left overs.

That, or walking into a sausage-fest (the "Johns" in the Cave outnumbering the "Pros").[/QUOTE]The HMP boys made an investment in a bar and now it's well known to them the bar is a loser unless they include all the sausage in Medellin, gringo sausage that is. If they don't open it up they lose bar business, if they do they lose hotel guest. Why rent a room there when the hawks are staying somewhere else for less. Very Interesting. I'm coming in September so am I up Shit Creek? Jaja It feels like Shit Creek thinking about it. Jaja

Okay guys, no open day.
Mind you the open day would have been just to see the bar and would have been around lunch time, no buying drinks, hanging or party in it.
La Cueva is only open to hotel guests and specilly invited guests by Medellin Bob, Big Bad Boyd and my self, and given that I don't have any friends !!!!!!!!!
As to the comercial viability of the bar / project. Medellin Bob doesn't need to make money, the project is a added service to the guests of the hotel and also it allows the hotel to get away from late night parties around pool side.
The bar closed at 4. 30am this morning.

A. G.
P. S. LT, if you want to come over for a few beers, let me know.

Wth? And My Invite?

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1311281]Okay guys, no open day.

Mind you the open day would have been just to see the bar and would have been around lunch time, no buying drinks, hanging or party in it.

La Cueva is only open to hotel guests and specilly invited guests by Medellin Bob, Big Bad Boyd and my self, and given that I don't have any friends!

As to the comercial viability of the bar / project. Medellin Bob doesn't need to make money, the project is a added service to the guests of the hotel and also it allows the hotel to get away from late night parties around pool side.

The bar closed at 4. 30am this morning.

A. G.

P. S. LT, if you want to come over for a few beers, let me know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1311281]Okay guys, no open day.

Mind you the open day would have been just to see the bar and would have been around lunch time, no buying drinks, hanging or party in it.

La Cueva is only open to hotel guests and specilly invited guests by Medellin Bob, Big Bad Boyd and my self, and given that I don't have any friends!

As to the comercial viability of the bar / project. Medellin Bob doesn't need to make money, the project is a added service to the guests of the hotel and also it allows the hotel to get away from late night parties around pool side.

The bar closed at 4. 30am this morning.

A. G.

P. S. LT, if you want to come over for a few beers, let me know.[/QUOTE]Good call Greg, I agree no open day. I think if you had an open day, it would [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off a large number of guest staying at the hotel.

If someone really wants to enjoy the new bar, maybe they should book a night or two at the hotel and see for themselves what the bar is all about.

AG,

IMHO it seems everyone is getting a little too uptight about an "open house" in the afternoon sometime. While I agree with the popular sentiment that if you're paying a premium price for a room at CB1 or CB2 you'd hate to have budget mongers dropping by the bar all of the time to steal away the brightest students. But AG, if you're only talking about an "open house" during some afternoon to introduce the new bar, La Cueva, than what kind of man is so insecure they couldn't appreciate a launch party for the new bar?

Damn, I say fuk it and go for it! Make it a big deal and a full on party. Invite a lot of chicas, put out some hor the'ourves, maybe buy all the Mansion Hotel guests a round or two and invite some outsiders or special guests to the opening party. As long as there's enough chicas at the fiesta, I couldn't see how anyone except the most deeply insecure guy would object to an open house or launch party for La Cueva? Just my 4 cents.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1311281]Okay guys, no open day.

Mind you the open day would have been just to see the bar and would have been around lunch time, no buying drinks, hanging or party in it.

La Cueva is only open to hotel guests and specilly invited guests by Medellin Bob, Big Bad Boyd and my self, and given that I don't have any friends!

As to the comercial viability of the bar / project. Medellin Bob doesn't need to make money, the project is a added service to the guests of the hotel and also it allows the hotel to get away from late night parties around pool side.

The bar closed at 4. 30am this morning.

A. G.

P. S. LT, if you want to come over for a few beers, let me know.[/QUOTE]

All this worry that budget Mongers will come, and take away the creame really doesn't make much sense to me. First off a budget man will not pay 150K for a ST Chica.

Really guys has the amount of Working girls in MDE fallen of that much since I was last there in March? It seemed to me there was more hot women than you could shake a stick at.

Mansion Guys come to Mayorista all the time, and take girls away from there. We don't cry about it as there are plenty more where they came from.

I wish the Cave is a big sucess, and the happy Mansion guests will stay there, and have a blast.

One day if my ship ever comes in I will book a room there, and partake of that fine talent. Till then it is treinta mil para mí, and watch my stuff like a hawk.

No open day guys but if people want to look at our new bar, pm me and I'll see when its best to show you around.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1311281]Okay guys, no open day.

La Cueva is only open to hotel guests and specilly invited guests by Medellin Bob, Big Bad Boyd and my self, and given that I don't have any friends!

A. G.

P. S. LT, if you want to come over for a few beers, let me know.[/QUOTE]

Ok, A. G, I assume the "PS" is an invitation. I feel honored given your self proclaimed truth that you have no friends. I'm reserved at the Mansion on September 5, so I'll be legal to buy you a few beers. Hopefully you will have been restored from your seclusion in the jungle, and back in Medellin. We've got to catch up. Maybe time for an additional project. The first has been a challenge, but an unquestionable success. You have a lot of friends, I think. So many have made contributions to support your charity work. That's what friends do. But, I am a friend to the friendless. They need a friend the most.

Digressing, line up Demi. I want to see if she's still "one sexy bit*h." You know that I wish you

Only good energy

I'm reserved at the Mansion on September 5, so I'll be legal to buy you a few beers. Hopefully you will have been restored from your seclusion in the jungle, and back in Medellin.
A. G.
I will be still in the jungle mate, I'm going for a month and a half, I have 50 school bags for poor children that over the last year our guests have donated to give out in Choco and then I have a hidden paradice I just chill at and would you believe they have WiFi and Direct TV! In the jungle, good fishing to.

We've got to catch up. Maybe time for an additional project. The first has been a challenge, but an unquestionable success. You have a lot of friends, I think.
A. G.
I have a new project for you mate! I'll leave her name and telephone number for you.

So many have made contributions to support your charity work. That's what friends do. But, I am a friend to the friendless. They need a friend the most.
Digressing, line up Demi. I want to see if she's still "one sexy bit*h." You know that I wish you
A. G.
Demi Moore comes over at least 3-4 times a week so no problem.
Catch you later LT.

Only good energy[/QUOTE]

i think time for some of you sad sacks to have a few laughs.

in answer to some fellows who have pm me to ask about my well being, all i can do is quote the great general douglas macarthur's farewell speech.

" old soldiers never die they just fade away"

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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvof_vppr3i&feature=g-vrec[/url]

Then you'd better get your azzzz back to Mayo soon. Last night was outstanding given it was a Friday night. I pulled two chicas a few hours apart around 2100 or so and they looked like they just came from Fase II. I took some photos of each one, and lucky me, because very few Mayo chicas want their picture taken. These two are more than worth some repeat.

Cheers.

Is 50k cop considered the average price for chica? Does everybody on here agree?

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1310752]I've pulled a 7 off that strip for 50k for two hours, We both parted extremely satisfied! I got my balls drained, she got a bit of spending money, I don't have any judgements on other guys choices as to whether or not to pull the trigger, I'm guessing he'd probably already had gotten in three or four sessions. Also, it doesn't bother me the least bit if a guy does only 30k sessions or if he never does less than 150k sessions, Its all about having fun! I know most guys Love the younger girls, but I've found tossing in a forty-something once in a while adds to the Medellin experience. Its all about having fun![/QUOTE]

[quote=john gault; 1311607]i think time for some of you sad sacks to have a few laughs.

in answer to some fellows who have pm me to ask about my well being, all i can do is quote the great general douglas macarthur's farewell speech.

" old soldiers never die they just fade away"

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvof_vppr3i&feature=g-vrec[/url][/quote]general macarthur also said,"i shall return", to mayo!

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1311622]Then you'd better get your azzzz back to Mayo soon. Last night was outstanding given it was a Friday night. I pulled two chicas a few hours apart around 2100 or so and they looked like they just came from Fase II. I took some photos of each one, and lucky me, because very few Mayo chicas want their picture taken. These two are more than worth some repeat.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I hope the talent continues as I will be in Mayo Thurs for a couple of weeks. I can't wait. For me, Mayo is my favorite part of Medellin.

[QUOTE=BondStyle;1311642]Is 50k cop considered the average price for chica? Does everybody on here agree?[/QUOTE]There's a whole thread on venues and pricing options, Mayorista and centro casas being the low end, Fase Dos at the high end, Abydos and Energy somewhere in the middle, most incalls to your hotel or apt. Same as Mansion pricing, Alot of guys feel like the only casa they ever really need is "New Life" at 34k, It all comes down to "whatever floats your boat"

My buddy Hanshin is recovering from a recent surgery on his foot. Laying on your back and having young Paisa's climb on for the ride. What a way to recover. Please let us know if you are ever able to roll over for the missionary position. Ha, ha. Markinno a / k/a Mark52

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1308666]" That's funny. I just had my hand down her ass crack a few minutes ago. Plus for the last few days she has talked quite a bit to me about her new personal situation".

A few facts here, since I know what I am talking about versus some people who just like to ***** and go into stuff that they have no idea what they are talking about (just because a girl blew you once or twice does not mean that you "know her"). First, I would like to thank Reefski for posting his excellent pictures. It was nice seeing some faces (I mean bodies) that I recognize. How many of you know what type of comfort zone that you have to establish with the chicas that they will trust you by posing for pictures (most fear being seen on the Internet because of their families).

Second, Reefski knows the story of the gringo involved with Demi and it is NOTHING like is being bantered about by others.

However, as a friend of the parties involved (Demi & the Gringo) you will not hear any real details from Reefski or any other friend of theirs. That's why we have the privilege to be called a friend.

Why not just post some photos and be done with it? Can there possibly be any mystery left about old, new or future mansions? It's fun reading the promotional material but it would be terrific to see something else in this thread once in while.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1311281]Okay guys, no open day.

Mind you the open day would have been just to see the bar and would have been around lunch time, no buying drinks, hanging or party in it.

La Cueva is only open to hotel guests and specilly invited guests by Medellin Bob, Big Bad Boyd and my self, and given that I don't have any friends!

As to the comercial viability of the bar / project. Medellin Bob doesn't need to make money, the project is a added service to the guests of the hotel and also it allows the hotel to get away from late night parties around pool side.

The bar closed at 4. 30am this morning.

A. G.

P. S. LT, if you want to come over for a few beers, let me know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1312054]Exactly! They are both great people and I wish them all the best. The only other thing I have to say is that the gringo has moved on, and in spectacular fashion I might add.

Reef.[/QUOTE]Thats good news thats he's moved on to "greener pastures" becuase another member on here just sessioned with her and emailed me pics as proof for all the naysayers that said that she was OUT of the business! LOL. Nobody likes to be played the fool!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1312326]Thats good news thats he's moved on to "greener pastures" becuase another member on here just sessioned with her and emailed me pics as proof for all the naysayers that said that she was OUT of the business! LOL. Nobody likes to be played the fool![/QUOTE]And a minute, a day or a week later, They're back in Business! I LOVE this town!

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1311123]As an upcoming guest staying at HMP, I was wondering if it would be asking to much if we (upcoming guests) could receive fair and proper warning as to when this future "open day for people who are not staying with us" is to take place. The last scenario I would hope for is to walk into the Cave and all of the top talent has been carted off by the non-guests, leaving the actual guests to rummage through the left overs.

That, or walking into a sausage-fest (the "Johns" in the Cave outnumbering the "Pros").[/QUOTE]I think that all this talk about a sausage fest and advanced notice for people living there to be a big crock of crap! Aussie Greg and his employees always make sure that there are enough ladies around, and in getting a list of people going to an open house allows the place to preplan how many students to invite. The notion of sloppy seconds because the people staying there are too slow to pull the trigger on one day is an issue that is the fault of the monger, not of the house that is just looking to advertise their business a little bit. It doesn't hurt the Del Rey, Sportsman's Lodge, or like hotels around the world. Why should there be a different standard here? Let Aussie Greg and the guys advertise their business, and look at your hunting options if there is not someone at the house within your standard on that one day that they seek to do something new.

jg. you helped me a lot. i think pornstar retired. take care.

[quote=john gault; 1311607]i think time for some of you sad sacks to have a few laughs.

in answer to some fellows who have pm me to ask about my well being, all i can do is quote the great general douglas macarthur's farewell speech.

" old soldiers never die they just fade away"

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[QUOTE=Reefski; 1308666]Second, Reefski knows the story of the gringo involved with Demi and it is NOTHING like is being bantered about by others.

However, as a friend of the parties involved (Demi & the Gringo) you will not hear any real details from Reefski or any other friend of theirs. That's why we have the privilege to be called a friend.[/QUOTE]Let me see if I understand. Markinno and Reefsi know the truth about Demi and "the Gringo." We know that there are those of us "on the outside looking in". Our bantering is way off base. And the "real details" cannot be revealed because a friend wouldn't do that. Sorry, even with my best "good energy," I've got to call bullshit on that. Reminds me of Mitt Romney's refusal to release years of tax returns but "we just have to trust him." I assume that Demi and "The Gringo" didn't work out. Where is the secret? We've all had failures with women. Those unfulfilled expectations are the source of all pain. In the words of Harry Reed, but in a different context, I have an obligation to advise that reliable sources in Reef's inter circle say that "The Gringo" is in fact Reefski.

Digressing, thanks again for the photos. Delightful.

I wish only good energy for "The Gringo" He needs it.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1312515]JG. You helped me a lot. I think Pornstar retired. Take care.[/QUOTE]If Pornstar retired that would be a sad day indeed. She never once gave a less than super performance. No woman in MDE could match her high standard of giving 100% each, and every time you took her for a spin. She was not a GFE, but she sure lived up to the title Porn Star. If on the off chance a Gringo took her home then I wish him well as he has his work cut out for him.

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I have an obligation to advise that reliable sources in Reef's inter circle say that "The Gringo" is in fact Reefski.

I wish only good energy for "The Gringo" He needs it.[/QUOTE]I don't believe that for one second! From what I see here Reef is too smart and has too much going on and on his plate to get caught up with one run of the mill prepago and become a walmart gringo. No way!

Another thing, take your political left wing, liberal progressive bullshit out of the Colombian forum! Isn't there already a politics thread for your bloviating? Starting debates about politics and religion are the last things we need around here!

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1312515]JG. You helped me a lot. I think Pornstar retired. Take care.[/QUOTE]Pornstar is still around although I did not see her on the Mayo strip EVERY NIGHT recently, probably because of lot of rain and La Feria de Las Flores. She is 'patiently' waiting for you, Amigo, to give you the outstanding service that gives her that nickname. I only sessioned with her two times in past years and never came away disappointed; and she is in fact 'A LEGEND'.

On a side note, if some of you are one or both of the gringos I saw at the luggage carousel last night at LAX, who traveled home on the same flights from Medellin and also had their luggage delayed because COPA switched our flight to TACA, I apologize for not saying good bye before I left. I was obviously tired and in a hurry to get home and rest. I need to get some of the 'good energy' back.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1312533]

[QUOTE=Markinno; 1312025]I have an obligation to advise that reliable sources in Reef's inter circle say that "The Gringo" is in fact Reefski.

Digressing, thanks again for the photos. Delightful.

I wish only good energy for "The Gringo" He needs it.[/QUOTE]Who really cares? Really.

Go out with a prepago, you like her, she likes you, you have fun, you take care of her a bit, she takes care of you, and it almost always ends at some point, moving on.

Normal.

Like I said, who cares who the gringo in this case may or may not have been?

Why all the drama?

Have fun, enjoy life, might as well.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1312656]I don't believe that for one second! From what I see here Reef is too smart and has too much going on and on his plate to get caught up with one run of the mill prepago and become a walmart gringo. No way!

Another thing, take your political left wing, liberal progressive bullshit out of the Colombian forum! Isn't there already a politics thread for your bloviating? Starting debates about politics and religion are the last things we need around here![/QUOTE]No guys, its not Reef, after all, I should know.

A. G.

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[quote=legal tender; 1312533]who really cares? really.

go out with a prepago, you like her, she likes you, you have fun, you take care of her a bit, she takes care of you, and it almost always ends at some point, moving on.

normal.

like i said, who cares who the gringo in this case may or may not have been?

why all the drama?

have fun, enjoy life, might as well.[/quote]ricker, you say a lot in a few words. a voice of reason, pragmatism and maturity. everything is ephemeral.

people. their interest, goals, dreams. their lives interest me. now, greg says he know the story of demi and "the gringo." i was just curious. no drama was intended or desired. when discussion turns to personal attacks and attempts to control, now that's drama. i make no judgments. i believe in freedom of speech, no matter how unproductively it is exercised.

without dispute, i am not controllable. certainly not by others, and sometimes not even by myself. good energy and a desire for the best in everyone's life is my desire. i have no enemies here, only brothers trying to make it through this life, and trying to make some sense of it. everything is ephemeral? love isn't and maybe that's what we are looking for. i'm not writing about marriage. i'm writing about love. as hokey as some may think, i try to show love to everyone. all i can offer you, my brothers is.

only good energy.

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Since I did not see her at all, I thought she retired. She is a friendly cute girl. I guess I will see her next time.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1312659]Pornstar is still around although I did not see her on the Mayo strip EVERY NIGHT recently, probably because of lot of rain and La Feria de Las Flores. She is 'patiently' waiting for you, Amigo, to give you the outstanding service that gives her that nickname. I only sessioned with her two times in past years and never came away disappointed; and she is in fact 'A LEGEND'.

On a side note, if some of you are one or both of the gringos I saw at the luggage carousel last night at LAX, who traveled home on the same flights from Medellin and also had their luggage delayed because COPA switched our flight to TACA, I apologize for not saying good bye before I left. I was obviously tired and in a hurry to get home and rest. I need to get some of the 'good energy' back.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Reefski; 1312719]Finally, one last thought. Instead of trying to pry into others personal situation on this forum, why don't you explain some of yours. Maybe describe this "project" of yours. Remember, this is a place to share our innermost thoughts, a "safe zone" and no one will be judgmental. (heh, heh, heh)

Reef.[/QUOTE]Oh yes, Please enlighten us Reef! Dying to know myself! Been kinda quiet in here!

Only Good Energy! .

Men I allways nickname the pros I've been with, this help enhance the memory,

Pros do the same to the guys.

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1312760]Men I allways nickname the pros I've been with, this help enhance the memory,[/QUOTE]

I returned from MDE last night, for a week of partying that included "The Gringo" of the Geraldine saga.

If you think that the "The Gringo" needs anything, especially women (anywhere in the world) , we could share a good laugh. This man has more poosseey chasing him than any man I know.

LT, from your post you seem to think / infer that "he" was dumped Ms. G. It sure didn't seem so from what played out last week at one of our parties. He has moved on (his choice) , quite nicely, and has not missed a beat. As a matter of fact has a beautiful novia that takes great care of him.

I personally like Geraldine, and have spent much time around her (due to "The Gringo", but never sessioned with her by choice) , and "The Gringo", I am also happy that my amigo has moved on. There seems to be much less drama now at our parties, although she can also stir it up in good ways, before she gets sh*tfaced. I wish her well.

It was only for a short time that she "said" she was off the market. If you knew her well (during that short period) , and had the money, she was always available. I can also say that "The Gringo" had no problem with her working, or not. That was strcitly her choice, for him (she thought).

It is interesting to read all of the guesses though.

Health & happiness to all.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1312659]Pornstar is still around although I did not see her on the Mayo strip EVERY NIGHT recently, probably because of lot of rain and La Feria de Las Flores. She is 'patiently' waiting for you, Amigo, to give you the outstanding service that gives her that nickname. I only sessioned with her two times in past years and never came away disappointed; and she is in fact 'A LEGEND'.

On a side note, if some of you are one or both of the gringos I saw at the luggage carousel last night at LAX, who traveled home on the same flights from Medellin and also had their luggage delayed because COPA switched our flight to TACA, I apologize for not saying good bye before I left. I was obviously tired and in a hurry to get home and rest. I need to get some of the 'good energy' back.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]That was me and my amigo who you saw at MDE, and LAX. By now you should know that your luggage came in on the 2:30 PM COPA flight today, and they will either deliver it, or you can pick it up. My amigo got a call from COPA, if you need the number let me know. We went to the COPA desk before departing last night and filed a claim. The lady at the desk did not understand what the internal message was about until we told her.

The story behind this is that COPA changed planes and had twenty less seats. I just happened to be 21 so I checked in. My amigo was next and she told him,"I am sorry senior, but we have no seat for you!" I assume that Ezyngo and his amigo were also in the last twenty. They were all placed on a TACA flight that actually got to Panama about 45 minutes prior to COPA, but they screwed the pooch on the luggage. If you fly COPA to Panama beware that they can change planes, and bump you in the process. They also have a very screwed system at the desk for check in. Give yourself plenty of time so you do not become one of the forgotten twenty.

It was actually you and your amigo that showed us it just wasn't his that did not make it, but all four of you (she said there was one other person). After seeing you guys there, and no more luggage, we knew that it wasn't happening last night.

I hope that you had a great time in MDE though.

Health & happiness to you and yours

[QUOTE=Supersteve;1312831].The story behind this is that COPA changed planes and had twenty less seats.[/QUOTE]I didn't make that connection at the time. I was thinking it was usually a 737 for that first leg out of MDE but my brain was still a bit foggy from your parties and just accepted the Embraer 190 as normal. Thanks for your hospitality and great food. Hope the luggage made it to you guys. At least they lost it at the end and not the beginning of the trip though.

[QUOTE=Supersteve; 1312831]That was me and my amigo who you saw at MDE, and LAX. By now you should know that your luggage came in on the 2:30 PM COPA flight today, and they will either deliver it, or you can pick it up. My amigo got a call from COPA, if you need the number let me know. We went to the COPA desk before departing last night and filed a claim. The lady at the desk did not understand what the internal message was about until we told her.

The story behind this is that COPA changed planes and had twenty less seats. I just happened to be 21 so I checked in. My amigo was next and she told him,"I am sorry senior, but we have no seat for you!" I assume that Ezyngo and his amigo were also in the last twenty. They were all placed on a TACA flight that actually got to Panama about 45 minutes prior to COPA, but they screwed the pooch on the luggage. If you fly COPA to Panama beware that they can change planes, and bump you in the process. They also have a very screwed system at the desk for check in. Give yourself plenty of time so you do not become one of the forgotten twenty.

It was actually you and your amigo that showed us it just wasn't his that did not make it, but all four of you (she said there was one other person). After seeing you guys there, and no more luggage, we knew that it wasn't happening last night.

I hope that you had a great time in MDE though.

Health & happiness to you and yours[/QUOTE]Steve,

I fly the Copa route mde. Panama. Lax all the time. I am always on the morning flight getting in to Lax around 2. Were you bumped on the afternoon flight?

HB

[QUOTE=Supersteve; 1312831]That was me and my amigo who you saw at MDE, and LAX. By now you should know that your luggage came in on the 2:30 PM COPA flight today, and they will either deliver it, or you can pick it up. My amigo got a call from COPA, if you need the number let me know. We went to the COPA desk before departing last night and filed a claim. The lady at the desk did not understand what the internal message was about until we told her.

The story behind this is that COPA changed planes and had twenty less seats. I just happened to be 21 so I checked in. My amigo was next and she told him,"I am sorry senior, but we have no seat for you!" I assume that Ezyngo and his amigo were also in the last twenty. They were all placed on a TACA flight that actually got to Panama about 45 minutes prior to COPA, but they screwed the pooch on the luggage. If you fly COPA to Panama beware that they can change planes, and bump you in the process. They also have a very screwed system at the desk for check in. Give yourself plenty of time so you do not become one of the forgotten twenty.

It was actually you and your amigo that showed us it just wasn't his that did not make it, but all four of you (she said there was one other person). After seeing you guys there, and no more luggage, we knew that it wasn't happening last night.

I hope that you had a great time in MDE though.

Health & happiness to you and yours[/QUOTE]After having my luggage lost twice. Once in Cali, and the other time in the DR I now only travel with a carry on, and also a case for my laptop. I use laundrys in the country that I visit, and having enough clothes is not a problem. Both times it took 2 days for my luggage to get to me, and in Cali it was really bad as I had to go to the airport to pick it up (a customs issue ). American Airlines would not compensate me for the expense of the taxi or the stuff I had to buy.

I'm a college student of social science. At present we are doing from the course of Investigation 1, an approach to different social phenomena that exist in the city of Medellíand, and I chose the topic of sex tourism, due to the recent events in Cartagena, and the colombian goverment's claim that no such thing exist in the country. My purpose is not to make value judgments, I'm trying to determine whether exist or not.

So I ask the possibility of having a dialogue with you (it can be virtual) , and share my questions about that issue.

My e-mail is [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] and my cellphone nomber is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. I live in Medellíand, so if any of you can give me an interview, I would be very grateful.

Thanks for the attention.

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[QUOTE=Reefski; 1312719]Ahhhh LT. I have to start by thanking you for enlightening my morning. I was sitting in a long boring ass meeting when I read your post. I'm sure the rest of the group wondered why the fuck I burst out laughing.

Secondly, I'll hand it to you, you're never afraid to reveal your inner idiot. I don't know how you ever came up with that logic but hey, run with it."Reliable sources in Reef's inter circle?" Geraldine Demi Reefski has a certain ring to it. Jajajajaja.

Finally, one last thought. Instead of trying to pry into others personal situation on this forum, why don't you explain some of yours. Maybe describe this "project" of yours. Remember, this is a place to share our innermost thoughts, a "safe zone" and no one will be judgmental. (heh, heh, heh)

Reef.[/QUOTE]About ten years ago I established a foundation pursuant to the Internal Revenue Code. I funded it. I control it. I receive no salary from it. I do not charge it for my expenses. I live in a life style that fits my time and station in life. I am partial to exceptional cigars, exceptional single malt scotch whiskey, and exceptional young women. The foundation has provided substantial support to a couple of exceptional young men from Malawi. One just graduated from law school. The other still in school. The foundation pays the monthly health insurance for an old friend who is in a financial crisis. The foundation has provided scholarships to about six per semester in my state and as of July, five in Medellin. And, I've brought a Paisa to the USA for her university training. The Dow is over 13K. The foundation has a healthy seven figure balance sheet. At bottom, I am always open to improving the lives of worthy individuals. And I do get my fair share of appreciation sex from the young women; that is what I'm generally told anyway. But, I still want to fuck Demi. That's who I am. I don't know why. But obviously I had a good time.

Oh, as an aside, I don't attend meeting. I call meetings. And Reef, if you were on the web while I was chairing a meeting, you'd be fired. If you're bored, it's only because you're boring. I am sorry you have to live that way, but lighten up on us mere mortals. Actually, it sounds like you're lucky to have a job with your miserable fucking negative attitude. We are all blessed, some more than others.

In Colombia the foundation gets more bang for the buck, no pun intended. It doesn't cost much for a student to live and be able to go to school here. A couple of the girls have a child, and the kids go to school too. I spend money on education, without hesitation. I've got a couple of new girls in mind. Both are beautiful and serious. They have a purpose in life. They will never settle for being bored in life. The foundation may bring them to the USA, at least for extensive English Language Training.

Just trying to help people who share part of their lives with me. I'm enjoying the girls of Medellin. I'm changing the lives of some. And spreading a little,

Good energy

[QUOTE=Hanshin Baka; 1312854]Steve,

I fly the Copa route mde. Panama. Lax all the time. I am always on the morning flight getting in to Lax around 2. Were you bumped on the afternoon flight?

HB[/QUOTE]I didn't get bumped since I was apparently the last person to get on the flight from my original ticket. We were about two hours early for the flight also. Their system for queing up the passangers is sh*t. We had several groups of traverlers in line after us, that were given boarding passes prior to us making the desk.

They originally told my amigo that they were sorry and he would have to be on the flight the next day. He told them what he wanted, room fee, taxi each way, etc. It took for what seemed like forever while they figured out what to do, and then they put him and at least two others on a TACA flight that left about 45 minutes before the COPA flight, and then they were all on the origianl Panama / LAX flight. Their luggage was not so fortunate, it arrived today on the 2:30 PM arrival of COPA.

If you take the 3:45 PM flight (MDE / LAX) and they bump, if TACA has space they can put you on that flight, but you may have to ask. You will arrive in Panama about 45 minutes prior to the COPA flight on the same day. They will tell you that you have to come back tomorrow, sorry! Unfortunately your luggage probably won't it. They seemed to break down in all areas during the change. They didn't even understand their internal communication about what happened until we explained it to them at the COPA desk at LAX.

Health & happiness to all.

[QUOTE=Danny Shark; 1312864]I'm a college student of social science. At present we are doing from the course of Investigation 1, an approach to different social phenomena that exist in the city of Medellíand, and I chose the topic of sex tourism, due to the recent events in Cartagena, and the colombian goverment's claim that no such thing exist in the country. My purpose is not to make value judgments, I'm trying to determine whether exist or not.

So I ask the possibility of having a dialogue with you (it can be virtual) , and share my questions about that issue.

My e-mail is [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] And my cellphone nomber is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. I live in Medellíand, so if any of you can give me an interview, I would be very grateful.

Thanks for the attention.

Laura Díaz.

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Now that is an interesting question: "whether sex tourism exists in Medellin" Not the least because of it's context, but rather because of who presumably asks this question, a person from the country in question!

We all know sex tourism exists in Medellin and the rest of Colombia. Of course we know that. But do Colombians realize this fact? Are they in denial or in true innocent ignorance of this social phenomenal?

Wow. I just thought of the same question forwarded to me as a US citizen! Do we have sex tourism in the US? If we did, who are the men? Where do they come from? Are they government officials from Mexico, wealthy Chinese businessmen, Russian mafia men or Indian entrepreneurs?

And who will be the typical American "prepago"?

Anyone here knows of or heard of sex tourism in the USA! If you ask me, I'll say no. There is no sex tourism in my country! But how would I know!

Very interesting!

[QUOTE=Danny Shark; 1312864]I'm a college student of social science. At present we are doing from the course of Investigation 1, an approach to different social phenomena that exist in the city of Medellíand, and I chose the topic of sex tourism, due to the recent events in Cartagena, and the colombian goverment's claim that no such thing exist in the country. My purpose is not to make value judgments, I'm trying to determine whether exist or not.

So I ask the possibility of having a dialogue with you (it can be virtual) , and share my questions about that issue.

My e-mail is [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] And my cellphone nomber is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. I live in Medellíand, so if any of you can give me an interview, I would be very grateful.

Thanks for the attention.

Laura Díaz.

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[QUOTE=Danny Shark;1312864]I'm a college student of social science. At present we are doing from the course of Investigation 1, an approach to different social phenomena that exist in the city of Medellíand, and I chose the topic of sex tourism, due to the recent events in Cartagena, and the colombian goverment's claim that no such thing exist in the country. My purpose is not to make value judgments, I'm trying to determine whether exist or not.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, as far as I know there is no sex tourism in Colombia. :)

That's funny!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1312989]Hmmm, as far as I know there is no sex tourism in Colombia. .

That's funny![/QUOTE]I must agree with you on this matter. All the fellows I know go to Medellin to see the fat figures in the Parke Centro. Also to the Museum located in that park.

Why would anyone go to Medellin to look for hot sexy women wnen they can find plenty in the USA?

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1312949]Now that is an interesting question: "whether sex tourism exists in Medellin" Not the least because of it's context, but rather because of who presumably asks this question, a person from the country in question!

We all know sex tourism exists in Medellin and the rest of Colombia. Of course we know that. But do Colombians realize this fact? Are they in denial or in true innocent ignorance of this social phenomenal?

Wow. I just thought of the same question forwarded to me as a US citizen! Do we have sex tourism in the US? If we did, who are the men? Where do they come from? Are they government officials from Mexico, wealthy Chinese businessmen, Russian mafia men or Indian entrepreneurs?

And who will be the typical American "prepago"?

Anyone here knows of or heard of sex tourism in the USA! If you ask me, I'll say no. There is no sex tourism in my country! But how would I know!

Very interesting![/QUOTE]San Francisco's strip clubs are full of asian tourist. The massage parlors and the FL's are making tons of money from the visitors to our city. So bring your wallet and enjoy the (good ole fashion) fun in San Francisco. We have some hotties here too! JeJe, come on up!

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[QUOTE=Reefski; 1313151]* You've changed the lives of kids from Malawi. (Christ, it's fucking Madonna I'm talking to!)

* You sponsor young women and then come on this board with an altruistic, holier than thou attitude, however you freely admit you expect sexual favors for your generosity. * (BTW. Do the young boys from Malawi need to put out as well?)

* You say you change lives for the positive but really deep down, you just like to control and play puppet master with them. But why not? You have the cash so it's easy to feel better than others.

Last thing, I like the subject line of your post,"I'm Laid Bare". After reading it, we do know a little more about you now. Seems you're kind of a combination of Mother Teresa, Dalai Lama, Mr. Burns, Angelina Jolie and Jerry Sandusky.

Reef.

BTW, I have another boring ass meeting this afternoon and I'm sure I'll be surfing the web. Oooooh, I hope I don't get fired! Jajajaja.[/QUOTE]Jajajajajajajajjaja uffffff, I just pissed my pants! LOL Talk about "blowing up somebodys spot"

Is there anything else to add? You said it all! But let me see if I can muster up some words! LOL.

Call a spade a spade! Can't pull the wool over our eyes, I call them as I see them, if it looks like a duck, bla bla bla.

"Holier than thou" sex monger attitudes under the thinly veiled guise of some sort of perverted philanthropy is really pathetic!

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Boys I think we all have heard enough of this stuff.
Plus you guys are using to many big words.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1312676]Who really cares? Really.

Go out with a prepago, you like her, she likes you, you have fun, you take care of her a bit, she takes care of you, and it almost always ends at some point, move on.

Normal.

Have fun, enjoy life, might as well.[/QUOTE]Ricker has it exactly right. We all "take care of her a bit." Just in different ways. I am sorry if my narrative was not well received, and I am sorry if I offended anyone. I am just trying to do the best that I can.

Only good energy, really

[QUOTE=Ronin1; 1313336]LT & JG,

No worries and it's all in good fun. Ricker is right and peace to you both. Only good synergy![/QUOTE]I do what I do not because I have so much, but because I know how it feels to have Nothing. The imbalance of power in these relationships or arrangements with these young woman causes me a lot of pain. I keep telling myself that I do what I do for altruistic reasons. But I know why these girls let me enjoy the pleasures that they give because of what I do for them. I just hope that I do no harm.

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[QUOTE=Ronin1;1313330]"LOL" are arcronyms ok?[/QUOTE]Yes LOL is OK, but BBBJ is better.

I must admit I have trouble with big words. An example of this is when a Chica gives me a price of 150K.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1313346]I do what I do not because I have so much, but because I know how it feels to have Nothing. The imbalance of power in these relationships or arrangements with these young woman causes me a lot of pain. I keep telling myself that I do what I do for altruistic reasons. But I know why these girls let me enjoy the pleasures that they give because of what I do for them. I just hope that I do no harm.[/QUOTE]I know I am putting myself in harms way by offering my opinion but I'm bored here (in the ole USA) so WTF. If the monger measures his integrity by USA standards than he is a pos. That is pretty much how a monger is viewed here. But, this country (the USA) also rewards it's top (corporate) executives bonuses (in the several millions) for scamming millions of hard working citizens out of their life savings, (2008). Another company (BP) monitored by USA regulators were allowed to (temporarily?) spoil the gulf of Mexico thru questionable and illegal practices that resulted in thousands of family businesses to suffer great financial hardship, not to mention the death toll on the wild life there. There were no (successful) prosecutions for either event. Nevertheless the USA considers itself the moral compass of the world, the facts state otherwise. The USA is a young and immature country that is obviously afraid of sex and represses both genders imo.

My observations and actions are now based on what I think natures intent is for me. I am a man and luckily for me a man is the MOST POWERFUL CREATURE IN ALL OF THE KNOWN UNIVERSES (jaja).

This is not my opinion, this is fact. Woman are are very distant 2nd when compared to their male counterpart. So now we get to the sex part. Nature has created a scenario where we (male & female) need each other to survive. If there were no need for sex to procreate, the caveman would have killed off women along time ago, women are fairly useless when it comes to surviving in the wild. So natures intention (for humans) thru sexual contact is 2 fold. 1. To procreate and the species prospers and perseveres. 2. (the important one for us) Create a source of power and leverage for the WEAKER SEX.

If modern man ceased to desire sexual contact tomorrow millions of women, children, and very poor families would be in major peril very quickly. If you've ever seen families covered in dirt living on a dirt shoulder of a road than you know what I mean. There would be millions more joining their ranks. So, thru (mostly) kind hearted mongering this is not happening.

My opinion is the kind hearted monger has as much integrity as any priest, politician, or any other human on the planet. This is my opinion and I think I am right, or very close to it. I am not saying we are saints because we are not. At worst we are selfish for pursuing such superficial pleasures, and we have a right to do what we want as long as we do no harm to others imo. I don't give a shit about being selfish. I have worked hard all my life and I am kind and thoughtful to others. I can see the end of the road now (I'm 60) so for me this is the time to do whatever I decide to.

So Legal, if you are giving w / no strings attached that is noble. If you are giving because you are having sex w / them than you are following natures intent. Spread the power and wealth, that's what is really happening here and around the world. It has been happening since the very beginning so don't feel bad. Well that's my theory (the short version anyway) jaja.

Now you guys can let the bombs drop. Jaja

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1312515]JG. You helped me a lot. I think Pornstar retired. Take care.[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly you have been here 2wice? She did not retire. I think you get negative press here not because of race or creed but because when not making snide remarks you post completely wrong information that is obviously guessswork. Just chill and quit with the constant speculation. Thank you

Hello everyone,

I have a 9 days trip to Medellin coming up and I would like to get a tattoo. Does anyone knows of any good tattoo shop in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1312762]Pros do the same to the guys.[/QUOTE]Yeah pros do the same thing at mayo all the time if a guy is particularly ugly, old, fat, or a leper. Trust me it's true. The pros take notes and share nicknames and enter their stuff into a pootabase with fotos and everything to go with the nicknames. Mayorista is even backing up the pootabsae onto a cloud server run by Rodrigo. It's true, I've gleened all of this info from the metal tables in Mayo, drinking my water and getting sick from the fish.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1310694]I met some gringos last night on the strip. One of them was quoted 100K COP for 4 hours. He asked me if the price was decent. I took a look at the chica: look = 7 body=7 then told him I've never done anything like that before but thought the price was ok and told him so. He probably was a budget-conscious monger and hence refused to seal the deal. Not sure whom he ended up taking or doing anything.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Based on experience, unless you know the girl well it's always best to go with the lowest TOTAL $ figure you can. Instead of uping the figure for a promise of more time or multiple pops. I think it's better to have offered 50K for 1 hour and if all goes well after pop 1 take her up on the original offer and say let's make it that 100K for the 4.

If not, the (higher 100K) $ amt is now fixed and the performance and time oftimes seem to be elastic.

Overall you can always go up and offer more scratch once you are in the bedroom and things are going well. Commit to 100K for 4 hours and suddenly she gets a call and has to bail after an hour and a half and suddenly there is a mini battle over money and who promised what. Who needs that on vacation?

[QUOTE=Socker;1312981]Can't even spell the city you live in. Trust a shark and you will get bit. Harpoon please.[/QUOTE]In defense of the OP the software changes Medellin if you correctly type the tilde on the I. In other words she is spelling Medellin correctly and you are not. Otherwise you would have known this forum software frequently changes your original text (had you typed it correctly yourself as she did)

Medellin becomes Medelland. Just sayin'

[QUOTE=Sailor Jim;1314156]. Commit to 100K for 4 hours and suddenly she gets a call and has to bail after an hour and a half and suddenly there is a mini battle over money and who promised what. Who needs that on vacation?[/QUOTE]These girls all have the same playbook, don't they? Some try to leave much sooner than that. The bad ones always pull this crap and wonder why don't they get called again? They aren't too bright. I've heard all the excuses why they can't do what was agreed upon, so I am no longer surprised by this, I just give them a % based on them not living up to the agreement. I only stay TLN with trustworthy ones, and in MDE or anywhere else once you found some good ones, treat them well.

[QUOTE=Lusifer69; 1314148]Hello everyone,

I have a 9 days trip to Medellin coming up and I would like to get a tattoo. Does anyone knows of any good tattoo shop in Medellin?[/QUOTE]This guy does some really good stuff, a lot of my friends go here, ladies as well!

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[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1314160]In defense of the OP the software changes Medellin if you correctly type the tilde on the I. In other words she is spelling Medellin correctly and you are not. Otherwise you would have known this forum software frequently changes your original text (had you typed it correctly yourself as she did)

Medellin becomes Medelland. Just sayin'[/QUOTE]Apparently you need a college education to avoid the ridicule here. I don't have one. I come from the wrong side of the railroad tracks so I am not as astute as most others here. I learned how to spell Medellin from this board and that's how it is spell on this board. Was I being snide w / the, Shark Lady? Yes I was being a little snotty but not insulting. I was questioning her intent w / the so-called interviews. I guess that makes me the bad guy again. I will try and refrain from posting here again. It's too bad too because I'll be missing out on all this fun here.

NOTE. As far as my beliefs on mongering written below. Please completely disregard. My little manifesto (my opinions based on my observations) was meant to help guys get over the guilt of this sport but I'm sure it has opened me up for more ridicule. When I tried to upload it last night it didn't go thru so I then decided to keep it to myself. Now I see it went thru for all to see. It is an open theory to more insight from others who think and ask, why? It is food for thought, and ammunition that can be used against me from guys like you.

I think guys like me just lurk or stay completely away from these boards. Guys who ask why, that is. These boards are for asking, who, where, how much and any good? I pretty much have all I need to enjoy the city of MEDELLIN. I should try and abstain from posting because this is way too time consuming if you have other interest. Let the insults fly boys, jajaja I'm good to go.

I do what I do not because I have so much, but because I know how it feels to have Nothing. The imbalance of power in these relationships or arrangements with these young woman causes me a lot of pain. I keep telling myself that I do what I do for altruistic reasons. But I know why these girls let me enjoy the pleasures that they give because of what I do for them. I just hope that I do no harm.

Don't feel sorry for them. These girls are being presented an opportunity and if managed right it can benefit them. The ones who find regular guys who pay and / or just do it when they need a little extra money do fine. Most of these girls waste their money when times are good and then get older and have gotten used to having money and get trapped in the circle. Being a working girl is a job for a lazy person and just like Pablo Escobar, Martha Stewart, etc greed gets the best of them. Also, these girls are emotionally stronger than you think.

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[QUOTE=Socker; 1314010]So Legal, if you are giving w / no strings attached that is noble. If you are giving because you are having sex w / them than you are following natures intent. Spread the power and wealth, that's what is really happening here and around the world. It has been happening since the very beginning so don't feel bad. Well that's my theory (the short version anyway) jaja.

Now you guys can let the bombs drop. Jaja[/QUOTE]I enjoyed reading what you wrote. It was an honest and sincere opinion based on your 60 years of experience. I never attach conditions on the scholarships awarded to the young women by my foundation. I tell them, and anyone with whom I have dealings, that (1) I never do anything that I don't want to do; and, (2) that I never, ever, want my friends to do anything that they don't want to do.

My mentoring includes what I hope will make them strong, independent, and educated women. Women with a purpose in life. Part of the time with them is to build their self esteem so they are confident that whatever they want in life, they can have have it. A smart and beautiful women has power. Most of these girls, later in their lives, want to "pair bond" and have a family. We discuss the pleasures they can give, and what a man wants. I just give them the opportunity to practice. Batting 100 per cent, so far. I've assured them that if they learn to have passionate, open and fun sex, then they can have any man that they want. It's an education that some young men out there, in a few years, will reap the benefit. It's karma: some care, consideration, giving opportunity when none existed, results in receipt of wonderful pleasure. I don't think that harms anyone.

Next week I'm meeting with a Paisa that is in a bicycle club that rides every Sunday from Medellin up to Rio Negro. All uphill. I bet it does the body good. Hell, I get tired riding in a car on that trip.

Only good energy!

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[QUOTE=Socker; 1314183]Apparently you need a college education to avoid the ridicule here. I don't have one. I come from the wrong side of the railroad tracks so I am not as astute as most others here. I learned how to spell Medellin from this board and that's how it is spell on this board. Was I being snide w / the, Shark Lady? Yes I was being a little snotty but not insulting. I was questioning her intent w / the so-called interviews. I guess that makes me the bad guy again. I will try and refrain from posting here again. It's too bad too because I'll be missing out on all this fun here.

NOTE. As far as my beliefs on mongering written below. Please completely disregard. My little manifesto (my opinions based on my observations) was meant to help guys get over the guilt of this sport but I'm sure it has opened me up for more ridicule. When I tried to upload it last night it didn't go thru so I then decided to keep it to myself. Now I see it went thru for all to see. It is an open theory to more insight from others who think and ask, why? It is food for thought, and ammunition that can be used against me from guys like you.

I think guys like me just lurk or stay completely away from these boards. Guys who ask why, that is. These boards are for asking, who, where, how much and any good? I pretty much have all I need to enjoy the city of MEDELLIN. I should try and abstain from posting because this is way too time consuming if you have other interest. Let the insults fly boys, jajaja I'm good to go.[/QUOTE]Hey señor Socker,

Relajate amigo, I personally enjoyed reading your take of the PFP game, and you were dead on about the Shark reporter IMO.

The software glitch on the Medellin spelling, big deal.

Keep on truckin amigo.

Read, post, enjoy and ignore at times if you have to.

Take care.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1314305]. I never attach conditions on the scholarships awarded to the young women by my foundation. I tell them, and anyone with whom I have dealings, that (1) I never do anything that I don't want to do; and, (2) that I never, ever, want my friends to do anything that they don't want to do.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ronin1;1314352]Ok, here's one man's opinion: I call bullshit on your whole scholarship scheme and you're a disgusting, miserable fuk for what you're doing to these women. WTF, you never attach conditions on the scholarships you award? What in your sick, twisted mind are you thinking? These women do not want to sleep with your old, nasty azz? Dude, back to planet earth: these women only sleep with you to keep the financial lifeline open for their future and it's probably a soul eviscerating experience for them. I could say more but now I've got to go and take a shower and wash off the filmy slime I feel after reading the detritus which are your words.[/QUOTE]Heya Ronin,

Honestly I don't understand your disgust with LT's scholarship fund.

These girls know exactly what the program is:

They take care of LT and he takes care of them.

Nothing is hidden, they know upfront what they are doing and what the payoff is.

I imagine that LT is a pleasant guy, so he most likely wines and dines them as well, with added gifts too.

No difference at all then the normal PFP deal, except that LT's selected scholarship girls are getting a far bigger payout with a potential education and better future.

It's all upfront, on the table.

Do you believe that the Mansion girl, for example, enjoys sleeping with some (in your words)"old, nasty azz" guy?

Most likely not.

She does it, however, for the payout of course.

Heck, I'd much rather be a LT scholarship girl than a regular Mansion girl, and I could always quit if I didn't like it and go back to the Mansion or working at Exito or selling Bon Ice at el Estadio haha.

Take care amigo.

[QUOTE=Ronin1;1314352]Ok, here's one man's opinion: I call bullshit on your whole scholarship scheme and you're a disgusting, miserable fuk for what you're doing to these women. WTF, you never attach conditions on the scholarships you award? What in your sick, twisted mind are you thinking? These women do not want to sleep with your old, nasty azz? Dude, back to planet earth: these women only sleep with you to keep the financial lifeline open for their future and it's probably a soul eviscerating experience for them. I could say more but now I've got to go and take a shower and wash off the filmy slime I feel after reading the detritus which are your words.[/QUOTE]Thank god! At least ONE level headed member came forward and can wade through all the bullshit spewed on here by other members. Other gullible memebers with their constant "kumbayah" attitudes, hey, that's their prerogative, at least one thing you can say about them is that their consistent.

"We discuss the pleasures they can give, and what a man wants. I just give them the opportunity to practice. Batting 100 per cent, so far. I've assured them that if they learn to have passionate, open and fun sex,"

I told you, sex tourism and taking advantage of the misfortunate under the guise of some sort of very thinned veil perverted philanthropy is the lowest of the low. GTFO

At least most people here admit their sex tourists!

[QUOTE=Ronin1;1314352]Ok, here's one man's opinion: I call bullshit on your whole scholarship scheme and you're a disgusting, miserable fuk for what you're doing to these women. WTF, you never attach conditions on the scholarships you award? What in your sick, twisted mind are you thinking? These women do not want to sleep with your old, nasty azz? Dude, back to planet earth: these women only sleep with you to keep the financial lifeline open for their future and it's probably a soul eviscerating experience for them. I could say more but now I've got to go and take a shower and wash off the filmy slime I feel after reading the detritus which are your words.[/QUOTE]Dude,

Seriously? You're on a website for mongers and you're talking about exploitation? Are you a Republican? Do as I say not as I do. Glass house man, glass house.

Simon says: Do what makes you happy, don't hurt others.

I helped this one through her last two years at a very prestigious and renowned universities in the world. She was in town and actually stopped by to say hi last night. No sex, just saying hi to someone that had helped her in life.

Simon says: Have fun.

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We have all encountered people in our lives that like to engage in the most negative and angry manner. They see someone that is trying to improve the lives of others, and they ridicule it. They see another's pleasure and criticize it. They find every and any reason to make personal attacks. Speaking just for me, I am pleased that I don't allow these kind of people into my life. Their collective vile and nasty attitudes are contrary to everything that I believe and that I try to live. Unfortunately, the P4P world attracts a small minority that enjoy abusing and degrading these beautiful young women who are in the springtime of their lives, even if some, when we encounter them, are no longer "fresh." Let's all be thankful that we don't live in the hell that must be their daily plight, and which they obviously want us to share. Now I know what is meant by the phrase, misery loves company. I have no idea what has occurred in the lives of these troubled souls, but let all of us try to understand that they are just trying to deal with their own pain. I feel sorrow and compassion for them.

None of us have any control over the hate that some choose to personify when their fingers hit the keyboard of their computers. What is written says nothing about the subject of these sophomoric, abhorrent, repugnant, invidious, obnoxious, and offensive posts. But it says everything about the writers. I read this venom, and wonder what in life has caused such anger, hate and misery. But, if you've never felt love, I guess that you are unable to feel or give any. Like I have written, let us show some compassion for these few among us.

Turning to the practical, the vile that a few spew here has caused some long time posters to go elsewhere, and the infrequent visitor to this thread to venture here but once. This thread was previously moderated. I talked with Jackson about this when I was in Bs As. I don't know if my requesting that he allow an unmoderated discussion was influential with him, or otherwise. But, if some don't control their behavior here, I'm thinking it might be time to have another discussion with him.

Only good energy.

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[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1314515]Thank god! At least ONE level headed member came forward and can wade through all the bullshit spewed on here by other members. Other gullible memebers with their constant "kumbayah" attitudes, hey, that's their prerogative, at least one thing you can say about them is that their consistent.

"We discuss the pleasures they can give, and what a man wants. I just give them the opportunity to practice. Batting 100 per cent, so far. I've assured them that if they learn to have passionate, open and fun sex,"

I told you, sex tourism and taking advantage of the misfortunate under the guise of some sort of very thinned veil perverted philanthropy is the lowest of the low. GTFO.

At least most people here admit their sex tourists![/QUOTE]Hey Heat, somos amigos, but I disagree.

I doubt that LT is luring these girls to do anything, and I'm sure they take full advantage of the situation.

It's simply PFP with a different name; scholarship.

Big deal.

Take care.

[QUOTE=Ronin1;1314595]

Ricker perhaps you're just far more open minded than I am, because can you not see the duplicity, the arrogance, the misguided and inflated sense of self worth and importance in his words and actions? Then he wraps it all up in a hocus pocus, eastern philosophy and tries to sell it to everyone as altruism? Sorry I'm not buying into his brand of BS and personally find LT's words, actions and half baked philosophy to be douche-baggery of the highest level. If you want to call it PFP call it PFP. If you want to call it altruism or a scholarship fund from a foundation than call it that, but don't attach any strings or conditions like having to have sex with Uncle Fester to it! Again in his own words he says no one has to do anything they don't want yet he's batting 100 percent. LOL, every guy that goes to the Venetto, HDR, Passions, The Mansion, Tequila Rocks, Clinica Dr. Amor or a zillion other places can bat 100, but they have real nut sacks so they don't have to use sophistry or a convoluted, tax dodge foundation and call it altruism. Just my 16 cents.[/QUOTE]

Maybe I'm just over-simplifying the LT scholarship program, and the "good energy" mantra doesn't bug me all.
To me it beats the "screw the bitches, they're all *****s anyway" mantra.

I believe some of his talk may be off the cuff humor mixed with some egotism as well.
None of it sounds harmful or coercive to me though.
All parties know the score and are freely in the program.

I'm sure there are lots of similar programs by other guys, with other girls, though by different names and program benefits out there.

Anyway, It's a good debate, and guys can certainly disagree, and I appreciate your opinion as well.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Danny Shark;1312864]".the colombian goverment's claim that no such thing [sex tourism] exist in the country. ., I'm trying to determine whether exist or not.[/QUOTE]Laura Pirry did a special about sex tousim about 2 years ago. Look on YouTube. I have lived here on and off for 20 years and have never heard the gov't deny that sex tourism exists. It's usually just not mentioned.

Perhaps in official scenarios in the eyes of the government in order to qualify as sex tourism the revenue of such business needs to be greater than a certain % of total sales. I would say the non Colombian residents attribute to less than 10% of the overall take, if I may use such slang. But I would also say the majority of male travelers (95% of them) to Colombia are not here because they love the food or the works of Botero. JMHO

I was wondering if we can do a poll? I understand what Ronin1 writes. I'm pretty much "out there" about how I feel. I'm no better or worse than any monger. Like I've written before, I have no enemies, only brothers.

My approach to receiving the attention of beautiful, and intelligent young women, and who have a dream is like anyone here. That dream is not fucking me, but having me in their lives, or so I'm told. Not all that different than the brother that debates whether he ought to pay a New Life girl a propina to secure a BBBJ. She will do it for money. These girls are exposed to a life that they couldn't dream of because they have never been exposed to it. I'm not a mind reader, but it certainly appears that they are happy when I receive their pleasures. More than one has told me: "I want you to have anything that you want, anything, any time, any place. Works for me. One told me on Thursday, right after receiving a world class blow job, two things. That she loved to swallow my milk, and that she felt like a winner. When ask why she felt that, she said because I am in her life. Funny, I don't feel like a dirt bag!

I'm off to meet my bike rider. A girl that has the discipline and drive to ride from Medellin to Rio Negro most Sundays is someone that I want to know, spend time with, and take an interest in her life, if that's my choice.

Ronin1, I make no judgment. I believe you mean what you write. And, I do have compassion for you. You don't have a vote in that choice, it is my choice.

If you want a contest, let's just cut to the quick. A poll. Whose life would you rather be living. Legal Tender's or Ronnin1'.

Really, only good energy

Via edit. I was thinking and I spend more time here than I do online with the scholarship girls. Their facebook bullshit is immature, as would be expected. They are from 18 to 24 years old. Now, they have an excuse. We should all be grown and mature men here. But, I don't always get what I want. Maybe I ought to offer scholarship to mongers who are obviously lost and don't know how to find purpose in life.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1314609]It's simply PFP with a different name; scholarship.

Big deal.[/QUOTE]When all is said and done Legal Tender is a monger who pays women in one way or another to have sex with him. Plain and simple. If any of these women had access to lots of money the cringe they feel in his presence would not be hidden, would they ever allow themselves to be in his presence.

Any candidate in his scheme would stay even without the philosophical bullishit to make himself feel like less of a monger if he decided to pay in all cash.

Johns pay in Dodgers T-Shirts, cosmetics, cash, education and whatever else is considered valuable currency in the eyes of the seller of her pussy. Is the seller "better" because she will take tuition reimbursement instead of cocaine? Not at all. It just means she has a different criteria of what is acceptable compensation.

You are a monger and she is a prostitute, but that is already obvious.

[QUOTE=Socker;1314183]Was I being snide w / the, Shark Lady? Yes I was being a little snotty but not insulting.[/QUOTE]Not a problem, no need to take your ball and leave the sandbox. I was just pointing out that a Colombian woman knows how to spell the name of the second largest Colombian city. The sex forum board here changes your posts- type the second to last letter if the alphabet (sounds like why) and you'll see what I mean.

A lurker here, I enjoy your posts and agree with most. Even the recent difference between the sexes post. Although I don't think the number is in the millions who are positively affected worldwide by foreign business, I know what you are trying to convey.

[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1314617]When all is said and done Legal Tender is a monger who pays women in one way or another to have sex with him. Plain and simple. If any of these women had access to lots of money the cringe they feel in his presence would not be hidden, would they ever allow themselves to be in his presence.

Any candidate in his scheme would stay even without the philosophical bullishit to make himself feel like less of a monger if he decided to pay in all cash.

Johns pay in Dodgers T-Shirts, cosmetics, cash, education and whatever else is considered valuable currency in the eyes of the seller of her pussy. Is the seller "better" because she will take tuition reimbursement instead of cocaine? Not at all. It just means she has a different criteria of what is acceptable compensation.

You are a monger and she is a prostitute, but that is already obvious.[/QUOTE]Bingo!

Right on the money.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1314609]I doubt that LT is luring these girls to do anything, and I'm sure they take full advantage of the situation.

It's simply PFP with a different name; scholarship.[/QUOTE]Even though I just posted about this it's fairly obvious. I paid a regular of mine girl once in flour because her family had a panaderia and there was a flour shortage due to a mudslide closing the roads into the city. Does that mean I am closer to spiritual enlightenment and she is not selling pussy?

Mongers in denial are not pussy marauders in an Egyptian river.

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[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1314613]My approach to receiving the attention of beautiful, and intelligent young women, and who have a dream is like anyone here. That dream is not fucking me, but having me in their lives, or so I'm told.[/QUOTE]You in their lives means = having good, repeat customers. All businesses want this. Also you're a good guy who pays working girls. Just sayin'

Man can attempt to rationalionalize his feelings of guilt by giving something other than plain cash. The sex drive is powerfull, he may someday be a future philanthopist. Haha, there are many ways to percieve the oldest profession.

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The Colombia forum, particularly the Medellin forum, is being invaded, methinks. There was DeltaPilot, Playing the Game, and now Ronin. I expect these are all the same, fake ids of Urban Wildlife or whoever. The common element seems to be new poster, strong opinions, macho, and ends with calling whoever he disagrees with gay. And always disagrees with Matt Psyche and Mr. Good Energy.

[quote=chesrep001;1314647]the colombia forum, particularly the medellin forum, is being invaded, methinks. there was deltapilot, playing the game, and now ronin.[/quote]damn, i thought i was the only one that spotted him. i had to come out of lurker mode for this one. 40 posts about absolutely nothing that had to do with anything about traveling to medellin to bang broads. this is probably the same guy posting as strangero in the rio de janeiro forum. same exact writing style and both just happened to "appear" on isg around the same time.

i'll be there in a few weeks. probably will just keep my reports to myself until jackson installs some sort of norton anti-troll software on this board.

[QUOTE=Ronin1; 1314638]The polls are just in and we have a winner! It's Illegal Tender!

OMG! That's it! That's the single gay-est thing I've ever read on ISG, LOL! LT, please remember not to get your websites mixed up again, ISG is the HETEROsexual site. You know, for men.[/QUOTE]Mr. Ronin and others, why can't you just put the members you hate on "ignore" before Mr. Jackson puts this forum back on moderated status for fucks sake. When this forum went to being fully moderated it sucked and you guys are going to get it put back that way with all these childish feuds.

As far as you Legal Tender convincing Mr. Jackson to run his forum the way you want it run, I hope you are full of shit. Jackson runs a tight ship with an even keel and I hope it stays that way otherwise I'm out.

[QUOTE=Ronin1; 1314556]Honestly, I really don't give a crap what SimonSHEsays. Ronin1 says Simon give scholarship to fat, skanky and manly looking chica and then post the foto for all to see, LOL.

Also sorry don't get your political reference and doubt it's fully baked idea in your pointy, little head either. Have fun![/QUOTE]It was a sorry, no information about mongering read. Can you go back doing what you were doing before you joined and decided to be a little puss? What was it, crocheting? Ohh wait, you have to have a few dollars to enjoy this hobby, that would mean a level of success in life. Keep at it, you might hit some day. Doubtfully based on what's evidenced in your posts."SimonSHeSays?" That's about the most intelligent, creative thing I've read in a long time. I'll leave it at this. I've been taught not to match wits with the unarmed.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1314657]Mr. Ronin and others, why can't you just put the members you hate on "ignore" before Mr. Jackson puts this forum back on moderated status for fucks sake. When this forum went to being fully moderated it sucked and you guys are going to get it put back that way with all these childish feuds.

As far as you Legal Tender convincing Mr. Jackson to run his forum the way you want it run, I hope you are full of shit. Jackson runs a tight ship with an even keel and I hope it stays that way otherwise I'm out.[/QUOTE]I'm with you señor Manizales.

I've been on this board for quite a while too, and though there's always been disagreements here and there, this Colombia forum, especially Medellin, is now ridiculous.

A little fun ribbing is cool, but getting so angry and upset and personal is a bit coocoo.

I hate to say that I miss the good old days, but ya know what, I miss the good old days of guys swappin good info and stories.

Back when Colombia was too "dangerous" to travel, and Medellin, forget about it.

I think we could use a few more of Hillbilly's fotos.

See the Cartagena thread.

[QUOTE=Ronin1; 1314638]1. You are a Spacey dude

2. You are seriously misguided with a weird need for attention.

3. You are obvoiusly suffering from delusions of grandeur

4. You are overly prideful and love to preach

5. You are greedy and one day, maybe soon, the IRS will do a little forensic foundation accounting

6. You are definitely a glutton for punishment, LOL

7. You are so incredibly disturbed it's disturbing[/QUOTE]Yep, you got me, even the IRS part. I'm all of those things on occasion, I'm sure. I'm the chairman of a publicly traded aircraft maintenance company. It is not what I manage on a day to day basis, but quarterly have to deal with the board. And, no one surfs the web during the board meetings. We have CPAs, an audit committee of board members, outside tax counsel, and we still get audited. Hell I've gotten audited personally twice within 14 months a few years ago. That's no biggie, just a cost of doing business.

More interesting, I think, is my current experience with the new 19 year old bike girl. She was recommended by one of her professors at her university here in Medellin. Excellent student, and speaks pretty damn good English, which was all self taught. I met her mother this afternoon, too. Mama reminded me that this girl was her most precious flower. My reply was that she needed opportunity since she is a beautiful flower, and is just starting to bloom. She hasn't see her father since she was 2 and doesn't remember him, of course.

I'm going to Bogota tomorrow for work. Yes, I have a profession, and I enjoy it. I ask bike girl if she wanted to go with me, and she said she would, but had no clothes. So tomorrow we're off to the Zara store, and then to the capital. During the course of the discussion, I ask what are her measurements. She said 94 58 92. I haven't converted that to inches, but looks like perfection to me. I'm already thinking she needs at least one semester abroad. It's going to be interesting. I'm feeling

Good energy!

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1314657]As far as you Legal Tender convincing Mr. Jackson to run his forum the way you want it run, I hope you are full of shit. Jackson runs a tight ship with an even keel and I hope it stays that way otherwise I'm out.[/QUOTE]Manizales, I only advocated that the Medellin thread be unmoderated. I do not advocate moderation now. We are all adults here and can deal with the occasional provocateurs that find their way here. Far too many long timers like you and Ricker have stopped participating. We all lose then, and the anarchistic. Win.

I was just thinking about Cubanut the other day. What happened to him? I couldn't even find his outstanding video "The girls of the Medellin Mansion" on Youtube. It is a must see for anyone who appreciates the beauty of the Paisas.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1314703]Manizales, I only advocated that the Medellin thread be unmoderated. I do not advocate moderation now. We are all adults here and can deal with the occasional provocateurs that find their way here. Far too many long timers like you and Ricker have stopped participating. We all lose then, and the anarchistic. Win.

I was just thinking about Cubanut the other day. What happened to him? I couldn't even find his outstanding video "The girls of the Medellin Mansion" on Youtube. It is a must see for anyone who appreciates the beauty of the Paisas.[/QUOTE]Cubanut is alive an well.

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[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1314699]I ask bike girl if she wanted to go with me, and she said she would, but had no clothes. So tomorrow we're off to the Zara store, and then to the capital. During the course of the discussion, I ask what are her measurements. She said 94 58 92. I haven't converted that to inches, but looks like perfection to me. I'm already thinking she needs at least one semester abroad. It's going to be interesting. I'm feeling

Good energy![/QUOTE]Hahaha, what a Western Union Pato Novio! Congratulations! You have a high end puta who speaks english and is looking for a sugar daddy and you just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Well at least you know you have a quid pro quo "relationship" and if you enjoy that kind of thing good for you! Make your own bed now enjoy sleeping in it. Nobody should be fooling anybody here its pretty cut and dry!

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1314703]I do not advocate moderation now. We are all adults here and can deal with the occasional provocateurs that find their way here. Far too many long timers like you and Ricker have stopped participating. We all lose then, and the anarchistic. Win.[/QUOTE]

Now ill be a son of a Bìtch, if that ain't that the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is!! Pwhahahahaha

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[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1314716]Hahaha, what a Western Union Pato Novio! Congratulations! You have a high end puta who speaks english and is looking for a sugar daddy and you just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Well at least you know you have a quid pro quo "relationship" and if you enjoy that kind of thing good for you! Make your own bed now enjoy sleeping in it. Nobody should be fooling anybody here its pretty cut and dry[/QUOTE]Yes, pretty cut and dry. I hate ambiguity. No, not a Western Union user. I prefer wire transfer. I can do that from my computer.

I don't have any debates here. What is posted by some shouldn't be elevated to be called a debate. There is no debate the Reef has a great eye with the camera and an eye for beauty.

[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1314705]Cubanut is alive an well.[/QUOTE]I'm glad to hear that. I wish he would come back to this thread. If anyone can find his youtube video it would be nice for someone to post the link, I didn't find it. It's a beautiful tribute to the Paisas and a must see, especially for those who are new and haven't see it.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1314739]I'm glad to hear that. I wish he would come back to this thread. If anyone can find his youtube video it would be nice for someone to post the link, I didn't find it. It's a beautiful tribute to the Paisas and a must see, especially for those who are new and haven't see it.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfjw28fSVfI[/url]

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[QUOTE=TweedleD;1314746][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfjw28fSVfI[/url][/QUOTE]I remember when he first got his decent camera. Wasn't even a DSLR but boy could he take some good pictures. Really painted those girls in a good light. Hell of a good guy that Cubanut.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1314687]I'm with you señor Manizales.

I think we could use a few more of Hillbilly's fotos.

See the Cartagena thread.[/QUOTE]It was a great post. There is no discounting the beauty of these women.

Ricker, you had the hottest girl ever in MDE. I can't remember her name but you were with her for a few of my visits and understandably so. Can't remember her name but do remember her aunts.

[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1314759]Ricker, you had the hottest girl ever in MDE. I can't remember her name but you were with her for a few of my visits and understandably so. Can't remember her name but do remember her aunts.[/QUOTE]I am not surprised. And I bet this "hottest girl ever in MDE" wasn't the typical Mansion girl, although there is absolutely nothing wrong with those beauties. I really don't want to contribute to any disharmony here. I don't like it in my life. Now, Ricker advocates that it is most productive to show these girls a little kindness and enrich their lives, if you can and if you want. I am evangelical about that.

I only write to share my experiences with the Paisas that I help, as I can, and in my own way. We can all contribute even if it is a few COPs for an afternoon or night of pleasure. I wanted to share my new experience with the bike rider. This part of my life is something that I can discuss only with my fellow mongers. That's all. Tomorrow to Bogota.

[QUOTE=Danny Shark;1314691]Why pay for sex? Why colombian women?[/QUOTE]Because it is legal in your country and not legal in ours. It really doesn't get any simpler than that.

We'd be interested in reading the responses you've recieved from your own countrymen (Colombianos). They've been paying for sex there way before we became aware of the fact that it is legal in your country.

Surely all the casas, strip clubs, and massage parlors that dot the landscape there weren't built in anticipation of our arrival. Or am I missing something?

Let's just get back to talking about prepagos, and where to find the best ones. Exhibits A, B and C, in case your forgot what they look like.

I have to submit a proposal by next week for a study abroad program in economics for a community college. Would like to find an educational institution in Medellin close enough to monger but far enough and safe enough to pass the smell test, does anyone have connections or know of Universities / Educational institutions. Where we could rent class rooms dorms ect. Does anyone have connections with the central bank, economic development in Columbia that could give my students tours or speak to my students (in English). I would go down the first year by myself to set it up, the school pays for my airfare hotel meals etc. Then I would have to go down with the students for three consecutive summers after that. Once the students go back I can stay for a few days and monger.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Chris

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1314836]I have to submit a proposal by next week for a study abroad program in economics for a community college. Would like to find an educational institution in Medellin close enough to monger but far enough and safe enough to pass the smell test, does anyone have connections or know of Universities / Educational institutions. Where we could rent class rooms dorms ect. Does anyone have connections with the central bank, economic development in Columbia that could give my students tours or speak to my students (in English). I would go down the first year by myself to set it up, the school pays for my airfare hotel meals etc. Then I would have to go down with the students for three consecutive summers after that. Once the students go back I can stay for a few days and monger.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Chris[/QUOTE]Yeah, try google search for the fucking universities in Medellin.

Presto. You can then contact them and ask.

I recommend the uni up near the hospital area. Just look at the Medellin map posted under RoD and you will see the place I mean.

Let us know if you can find that info. Or PM me

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1314739]I'm glad to hear that. I wish he would come back to this thread. If anyone can find his youtube video it would be nice for someone to post the link, I didn't find it. It's a beautiful tribute to the Paisas and a must see, especially for those who are new and haven't see it.[/QUOTE]Here it is.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="

[url]http://www.youtube.com/embed/vfjw28fSVfI[/url]

" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen </iframe

College might mean colegio, which I think is like 15 or 16 yoa, so discretion is advised.

These pictures aren't in MDE but at a local (top 5 of the nation) university. I happen to be helping this young lady with some tuition funding for a couple of years. Mensa and a total freak. I picked her up at the university often and sometimes even met her for lunch. We explored (fucked in) a lot of places. Classroom. Left a nice little note on the chalk board "_______ was a good girl." Did it in the mezzanine of the school chapel. Sorry to the man. But one of the coolest places was the library. Thought you guys might enjoy the pics.

The glasses are to commemorate the reunion of the Spice Girls and the success of the Olympics Games in London.

[QUOTE=SimonHeSays; 1314983]These pictures aren't in MDE but at a local (top 5 of the nation) university. I happen to be helping this young lady with some tuition funding for a couple of years. Mensa and a total freak. I picked her up at the university often and sometimes even met her for lunch. We explored (fucked in) a lot of places. Classroom. Left a nice little note on the chalk board "_______ was a good girl." Did it in the mezzanine of the school chapel. Sorry to the man. But one of the coolest places was the library. Thought you guys might enjoy the pics.

The glasses are to commemorate the reunion of the Spice Girls and the success of the Olympics Games in London.[/QUOTE]Sounds great for the adventurous couple who seek the thrill of public sex. That is until you get caught and then your name becomes shit! .

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/01/walmart-sex-arrest-couple_n_1728834.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1314987]Nice pics! It's always fun to get a little outside of the bedroom. I banged a girl scuba diving once (night dive in Phuket). Also tried on a ski lift but that one was a little too tough considering we still had skis on. Had to settle for getting some head.

I like your photos. Good collection.

Reef.[/QUOTE]I've lived a storied life. Not like some of the guys here but I have stories to tell. And a lot has been documented in photo. Had more but an x-gf found a box of pics and tossed them. Biotch! I never posted before but figured what the hell. Brings back a lot of good memories.

As far as getting caught. You got to use your head man. Stealing and fondling in a Walmart with security cameras and guards all over the place and finding an obscure area of an enormous library and choosing a place with good sight lines is a little different. Or a empty classroom with locks. Use both heads and you'll be fine.

Simon Says: Use your head!

[QUOTE=Danny Shark; 1314691]If you decide to answer any of my questions, you won't have to worry about your privacy; yes, I'm studying journalism, but I'm in my first year, so I'm not able to publish this investigation in the college paper. So, I have some quiestions to everyone who wants to answer.

Would you rate sex tourism as good or bad? Why?

Why pay for sex? Why colombian women?

Thank you all for your time.[/QUOTE]I have been going to Medellin for the past 7years on vacation so I will answer your questions from my side of things, of course others will be different.

Would you rate sex tourism as good or bad? Why. I did not know there was sex tourism going on in Medellin, if there is it is bad.

Why pay for sex? Why colombian women? I do not pay for sex, but if I do meet a nice girl in Medellin and she does go back with me, I pay her to leave. Why Colombian women. Well if I am on vacation in Medellin the chances are that I will meet a hot colombian women, as the old saying goes `When in Rome`

Got to love that boy Ronin, or should I say 'Urban Wildlife'. He does manage to stir things up, with his multiple IDs, all talking to each other and everyone else and creating havoc.

Flushed out was Legal Tender, who boasts of being the CEO of a publicly traded aircraft maintenance company. Well, here in S Florida we have Heico which fixes planes among other things and is publicly traded so maybe thats it. I'd hate to think that instead of keeping the planes safely flying, the Tender is spending his time fighting with Urban Wildlife on a sex travel website. That doesn't inspire confidence with regards to the reliability of the planes. Probably should short that stock.

Any moment now, Ricker will bleat;"can't we all just get along".

Urban bears watching as he is a serial antagonist and does manage to drag in all manner of flotsam and jetsam, flora and fauna and detract from the mission of the board.

-Only Big Loads-

[QUOTE=Belvaros; 1314900]Yeah, try google search for the fucking universities in Medellin.

Presto. You can then contact them and ask.

I recommend the uni up near the hospital area. Just look at the Medellin map posted under RoD and you will see the place I mean.

Let us know if you can find that info. Or PM me[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response, where do I find the map?

Thanks Again.

Chris

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1314746][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfjw28fSVfI[/url][/QUOTE]Yep, that confirms it. I'm going to Medellin.

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[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1315084]Thanks for the response, where do I find the map?

Thanks Again.

Chris[/QUOTE]Trying here matie.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=206810231178282017429.000494779e6b2fb07f4d4&msa=0&ll=6.257157[/url]

Also check the maps of Medellin thread.

[QUOTE=Troubleman69;1315087]Yep, that confirms it. I'm going to Medellin.[/QUOTE]Made my first trip shorly after that video came out, Cubanut has done more for Colombia tourism than the Colombian tourist board, Incidently, all photos were shot entirely on location at Aussie Greg's lovely Bed and Breakfast,"where the customer cums first". Well sometimes

[QUOTE=Dashing Don; 1315074]Got to love that boy Ronin, or should I say 'Urban Wildlife'. He does manage to stir things up, with his multiple IDs, all talking to each other and everyone else and creating havoc.

Flushed out was Legal Tender, who boasts of being the CEO of a publicly traded aircraft maintenance company. Well, here in S Florida we have Heico which fixes planes among other things and is publicly traded so maybe thats it. I'd hate to think that instead of keeping the planes safely flying, the Tender is spending his time fighting with Urban Wildlife on a sex travel website. That doesn't inspire confidence with regards to the reliability of the planes. Probably should short that stock.

Any moment now, Ricker will bleat;"can't we all just get along".

Urban bears watching as he is a serial antagonist and does manage to drag in all manner of flotsam and jetsam, flora and fauna and detract from the mission of the board.

-Only Big Loads-[/QUOTE]What you say is undisputed, at least in substance. Whether brother Ronin has used previous names. He is a troll. Don't feed him. We have an obligation to "just get along." It's called self moderation. The way you exile a troll is to banish him from the group until his behavior is improves. Don't feed the troll! Ignore him. To do otherwise is to feed him. It's a shame because his photos are exceptional, but his words are vile and antagonistic. Don't feed the troll. But if we don't handle it, Jackson may. No one wants that, but it has happened before. It was a pain in the ass for posters and Jackson.

I'm not boasting about anything. I am who I am. I do what I do.

Well, it's almost midnight and I'm sitting in a hotel room in Bogata with the nude bike girl laying in my bed and I can't have sex with her. And, I was anticipating that so much. This morning we were at the Zara store when it opened, and she picked out some clothes including a little black dress that fit her like it was painted on. I should have picked-up on her innocence when she confided that she had never worn high heels, but said she wanted to try as she giggled like a school girl; it seemed incongruous with the body of a woman. A body that is the best I have ever seen, and I've seen my share.

By five I was finished with business, and when I came back to the room she was dressed in the dress sans bra. We ate at the restaurant in the hotel. It wasn't far, but she had to lean on me several times because she was so unsteady wearing the heels. We were back in the room by 8:00 and she said she wanted to get comfortable. And said that we should take a shower together. Sounded damn good to me. She slipped out of her dress, and the sight took my breath away. Double Ds that don't sag a millimeter. You know those where the nipples actually point up, like they are suspended by an invisible string. I was surprised that her pussy, with perfect pouty little lips, was not shaved, as is the custom in Medellin. Just a beautifully trimmed little Bush.

We got in the shower and her curves were almost like a caricature with those perfect breast sloping down to a 22 inch waist followed by a beautiful Paisa ass. Then she dropped the bomb shell. She had never been with a man before. In fact, her sexual experience amounted to kissing a boy during some church social. She was and is a virgin.

I couldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. So, she is asleep, and I'm writing to you mongers. Life is what happens that you don't have planned. Tomorrow she returns to Medellin and I'm back in another reality for a few weeks, anyway. Sometimes you just got to throw them back.

Oh, she got her scholarship, and is going to keep it.

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[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1315180]We got in the shower and her curves were almost like a caricature with those perfect breast sloping down to a 22 inch waist followed by a beautiful Paisa ass. Then she dropped the bomb shell. She had never been with a man before. In fact, her sexual experience amounted to kissing a boy during some church social. She was and is a virgin.

I couldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. So, she is asleep, and I'm writing to you mongers. Life is what happens that you don't have planned. Tomorrow she returns to Medellin and I'm back in another reality for a few weeks, anyway. Sometimes you just got to throw them back.

Oh, she got her scholarship, and is going to keep it.[/QUOTE]Ouch, that hurts!

I've had that happen a few times in my travels also.

I hope you make it back for fun soon.

[QUOTE=Ronin1;1315237]So what more can I say Tender Buddha, but self reflection is a powerful thing and deep down you know, I know and most everyone on ISG knows what a dirt bag and a pompous, self delusional, lying sack of crap you are. And for once I'm not kidding or being funny because anyone that bothers to read any of your previous posts would see right through your self promoting BS stories and then realize what a sad, miserable excuse of a human being you are. Don't know who's worse off you the drama queen with all his made up fantasy stories or the scholarship recipients: the Malawi boyz and the sad, little chicas that are forced to endure any kind physical or even a worse torture a spiritual encounter with you the sequined drama queen of Medellin! So from now on drama queen your new ISG name is Liberace Tender![/QUOTE]Ummm, I was going to comment, but never mind.

I'll just say;

I enjoyed the LT virgin report, though blue balls are sure a b.tch haha.

A little ribbing is fun. I dig the Reefski humor for example.

He's a funny cat.

But damn, the ranting gets old.
Definitely discourages others from reporting, expecting backlash.

Peace, ehh. :)

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I'm certain I'm not the only one who finds all this sniping tedious, guys. Only good pussy energy!

I do not know Legal Tender, but I have to admit it does sound a little far fetched. A 19 year virgin in Colombia? LOL

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[QUOTE=EstebanH;1315365]I do not know Legal Tender, but I have to admit it does sound a little far fetched. A 19 year virgin in Colombia? LOL[/QUOTE]I was thinking the same thing. The definition of a 19 year old virgin Colombiana = a liar.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1315369]I was thinking the same thing. The definition of a 19 year old virgin Colombiana = a liar.[/QUOTE]I agree. I would have gotten the "I'm a virgin" (translation: "I don't want to fuck, but I'll take everything else that comes with the gig") part straightened out first way before the clothes shopping and showering naked together.

Only good bong rips!

As others have already said " enough is enough." You guys could continue your flame war via PM.

Myself I leave for MGA next Tuesday, and I will look at the MDE board when I return, and hope to see no more of this banter. All I think people want to read here are trip reports with solid details of where, and how much. It is OK if you want to put in how many orgasimos you gave the WG, but keep the reports cuming.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1315373]Only good bong rips![/QUOTE]Hahahahaha! Thanks Man, I needed the chuckle badly today! Dealing with some jerks at work.

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[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely argumentative[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You! [/i][/blue][/QUOTE]Maybe we can get some sanity back on the board. Here's my contribution to a saner friendlier board.

Only good pussy for everyone.

Senor Simon, another nice piece of pussy, room 8 Hotel Medellin Plaza 1, I stand to be corrected!

A. G.

[QUOTE=SimonHeSays; 1315690]Maybe we can get some sanity back on the board. Here's my contribution to a saner friendlier board.

Only good pussy for everyone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1315705]Senor Simon, another nice piece of pussy, room 8 Hotel Medellin Plaza 1, I stand to be corrected!

A. G.[/QUOTE]Don't forget my chocolates on the pillow. Long time my Aussie friend. I think I need a vacation. Are these kinda girls still hanging around in my room?

You "WILL NOT" be disappointed mate.

A. G.

[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1315719]Don't forget my chocolates on the pillow. Long time my Aussie friend. I think I need a vacation. Are these kinda girls still hanging around in my room?[/QUOTE]

Ill be heading to Mde in a few weeks, any one know where to find the 19 yearold virgins, haha, Lookin for a non pro with my limited spanish and visa card, haha, My self worthlessness, I've concluded in the USA, leads me in this direction, Nice guys definetly finish last in the USA, so I have nothing to lose in South America.

Funny you should mention this. As I was sitting on my bed in Plaza II night before last getting my 10th uncovered blowjob in 5 days, I was thinking to myself "How many guys back home in the states will go all year without getting one of these"?"Just doesn't seem fair".

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1315810]Ill be heading to Mde in a few weeks, any one know where to find the 19 yearold virgins, haha, Lookin for a non pro with my limited spanish and visa card, haha, My self worthlessness, I've concluded in the USA, leads me in this direction, Nice guys definetly finish last in the USA, so I have nothing to lose in South America.[/QUOTE]

Here's a pic of Diane. The bartender at the new MP bar. She resisted my charms (cash offers). But definitely worth looking at.

Jonesie,
I used to date her when she was 18 hombre, met her in Mangos, she was with a group of people on the next table.
She had her tounge down the throat of a 70 year old guy, beautifull sight.
I sent the waitress over to get her telephone number, we dated for 3-4 months then I lost contact.
Medellin Bob ran into her one night and offered her the job.
I new her when she and her friend could drink Guardo by the bottle, she got potted just after we lost contact and now has a little "bastard" running around.
Maybe you didn't offer her enough, you "chichi-pato" jajaja.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1315816]Here's a pic of Diane. The bartender at the new MP bar. She resisted my charms (cash offers). But definitely worth looking at.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1316090]Jonesie,

I used to date her when she was 18 hombre, met her in Mangos, she was with a group of people on the next table.

She had her tounge down the throat of a 70 year old guy, beautifull sight.

I sent the waitress over to get her telephone number, we dated for 3-4 months then I lost contact.

Medellin Bob ran into her one night and offered her the job.

I new her when she and her friend could drink Guardo by the bottle, she got potted just after we lost contact and now has a little "bastard" running around.

Maybe you didn't offer her enough, you "chichi-pato" jajaja.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Ha haaaaa, got to love Colombia, where having a lot of money can make almost any girl (puta) become ciega and your temporary "girlfriend"
Where having a good time and rumbiando will ALWAYS trump a little self diginity lol!

"She had her tounge down the throat of a 70 year old guy, beautifull sight."Ii you sure that wasn't you they were talking about mate? Jajajajaja

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1315813]Funny you should mention this. As I was sitting on my bed in Plaza II night before last getting my 10th uncovered blowjob in 5 days, I was thinking to myself "How many guys back home in the states will go all year without getting one of these"?"Just doesn't seem fair".[/QUOTE]You're lagging! Step up the program a bit.

No, still here just don't check in as much as I should. Busy having fun and living this incredible dream like life. Got a call two weeks ago from a chica, I got a number from on the metro two months before telling me she's coming to town for the flower festival. I didn't give it much stock because she did this one time before and never showed. Picture on my website with her on the couch but she showed from Cucuta near the border with Venezuela, great week together had to put off the girlfriend with a client in town routine which was true. Finally had to ask my visitor to leave yesterday and another cutie spent the afternoon with me that I met while I was with my client showing him around and getting things going for him. She left at 7pm last night and I picked up my girlfriend at 10pm and she just left this morning. This place and life is dreamy and I love just about every minute of it!

Quoting Jonesie "10th uncovered blowjob in 5 days".

Shit, I'm only good for 1 every two or three days.

A. G.

My investigation is only academic, so you don't have to worry about your privacy, I'm not going to put the link of this page in my work. If it's not a problem, I would like to know why are you so interested in women of Medellin, why do you came to this city, even when it has been so dangerous in the past. I would like to know your opinion about sex tourism, if you think it benefit both parts.

Thanks for your time.

I'm comming to Medellin the 3d of Sep. For a 3week trip! Ill be staying in the Centro for a week or so! Since I can't find a map showing the Mayorista area, I was needing to know the nearest Metro stop, and directions on walking from the Metro stop to Mayorista!

Thanks guys

[QUOTE=Colorado Dan;1316298] I'm comming to Medellin the 3d of Sep. For a 3week trip! Ill be staying in the Centro for a week or so! Since I can't find a map showing the Mayorista area, I was needing to know the nearest Metro stop, and directions on walking from the Metro stop to Mayorista!

Thanks guys[/QUOTE] [url]Https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202115846141467908565.0004c773b750e87e57227&msa=0&ll=6.187617[/url]-75. 585594&spn=0. 011306, 0.020685.

Keep in mind peoples opinions vary about the quality of women there.

Exit Ayura station and walk / taxi about 4 blocks (Clle 85) to the west (left). You will see bars and girls. It would be better after 9pm.

I'm comming to Medellin the 3d of Sep. For a 3week trip! Ill be staying in the Centro for a week or so! Since I can't find a map showing the Mayorista area, I was needing to know the nearest Metro stop, and directions on walking from the Metro stop to Mayorista!

Thanks guys[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1316802][url]http://watchdocumentary.com/watch/worlds-scariest-drug-video_c8a858703.html[/url]

For those who are not familiar with this drug this video is a must watch. The drug is seeing and increase in Medellin. I know two locals who this drug was used on recently. Someone might have posted info on this topic 100 pages ago, but with the way this forum is setup who knows. Please comment if you have something to add regarding this serious topic.[/QUOTE]A very scary thing. Thanks for the heads up.

Why would anyone would go with that nasty chica near the end of the video.

I'm surprised you don't hear more about people getting hit with this stuff. Maybe it is mostly a BOG thing?

I must have left my beer a 100 different times going to the bathroom. Not anymore.

Despite the reports of Mayo going downhill, Friday night was as good as I have seen it in years. A slight rain brought most people under the awnings but around midnight it was packed. Saturday night was slower but still a high number of doables.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1315373]I agree. I would have gotten the "I'm a virgin" (translation: "I don't want to fuck, but I'll take everything else that comes with the gig") part straightened out first way before the clothes shopping and showering naked together.

Only good bong rips![/QUOTE]Damn, that thought never occurred to me. Sure could have been, but that part was straightened out before anything. I told her and her mother that I never do anything that I don't want to do, and that I never, ever want my friends to do anything that they don't want to do. I hate ambiguity. If I feel that any of these girls don't want to pleasure me, then I don't want to have sex with them. It's happened. It's happened with a wife, it's happened with a casa girl, it's happened before. I don't like it. Maya Angelou said that you can forget what someone says, you can forget what someone does, but you can't forget how you feel when you're with that person. With the bike rider, I always felt only sweetness and naivety. I've gotten a couple of e-mails from her where she ask if I would reconsider my choice. I told her to fuck the first guy that she wanted to have his child. Not religious, just biological. And, I suspect it will be her husband. Interesting girl.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1316090]Jonesie,

I used to date her when she was 18 hombre, met her in Mangos, she was with a group of people on the next table.

She had her tounge down the throat of a 70 year old guy, beautifull sight.

I sent the waitress over to get her telephone number, we dated for 3-4 months then I lost contact.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Beautiful sight? Hell it felt good too. Not 70 yet, but that dude was a lucky bastard.

I'm thinking we all want to have that woman's tongue down our throats when we're 70.

Only good energy!

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1316802][url]http://watchdocumentary.com/watch/worlds-scariest-drug-video_c8a858703.html[/url]

For those who are not familiar with this drug this video is a must watch. The drug is seeing and increase in Medellin. I know two locals who this drug was used on recently. Someone might have posted info on this topic 100 pages ago, but with the way this forum is setup who knows. Please comment if you have something to add regarding this serious topic.[/QUOTE]All you dudes who like to suck on tits of girls that you do not know should be very careful. A favorite trick is to put the stuff on the titits. ALso, it can be transmitted by touch, ie, flyers, and papers.

[QUOTE=Asianpussylover;1317340]All you dudes who like to suck on tits of girls that you do not know should be very careful. A favorite trick is to put the stuff on the titits. ALso, it can be transmitted by touch, ie, flyers, and papers.[/QUOTE]Watching right now. The one thing I don't get is if it can be transmitted by touch (flyers and papers), or can even affect you by smell (according to the documentary) then how does it not affect a woman with it on her tits?

In the video, the drug dealer is talking about blowing the stuff at someone walking by, but how would it not affect him also as he is handling the stuff? If he doesn't factor in the direction of the wind, he runs the risk of the shit blowing right back in his face, LOL?

The first 7 minutes has mostly been "he said; she said". Seems like the drug dealer is the only "expert" they've consulted so far. But we'll see what happens.

UPDATE: Apparently if you just shove cotton up your nose then you'll be just fine. It worked for the hooker in the video who had the drug under her nose to drug her client.

If they slip it in your drink, you're fucked.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1317352].the drug dealer is talking about blowing the stuff at someone walking by, but how would it not affect him also as he is handling the stuff? If he doesn't factor in the direction of the wind, he runs the risk of the shit blowing right back in his face, LOL?.[/QUOTE]One way is they can have the stuff in a folded map. As they approach you to ask directions and slowly unfold the map enough to blow it in your face.

[QUOTE=Senor G;1317374]Making my first trip to Medellin and was wondering if there is any freelance bars similar to the Help Disco in Rio de Janiero, or LDV in Cartagena, where my friend and I went last year. Cartagena was a nice place, but way to expense for our tastes, and after hearing so much about Medellin, we decided to come and check it out since it seems like a great place, and it will not break our bank. We have rented an apartment from someone who also posts here on the board, so the La Cueva bar is out.[/QUOTE]La Manzana and Mayorista. But la Manzana is an after hours bar / club so you would have to wait till 2-3am.

Yep, thats right La Cueva bar is out, but hey, give Alexa a call and maybe she can show you through the place!

A. G.

[QUOTE=Senor G;1317374]Making my first trip to Medellin and was wondering if there is any freelance bars similar to the Help Disco in Rio de Janiero, or LDV in Cartagena, where my friend and I went last year. Cartagena was a nice place, but way to expense for our tastes, and after hearing so much about Medellin, we decided to come and check it out since it seems like a great place, and it will not break our bank. We have rented an apartment from someone who also posts here on the board, so the La Cueva bar is out.[/QUOTE]

LT,
She's got this boyfriend in Bogota who looks after her, the bar is just a working interest and keeps her busy when he's not in town.
A. G.
Hey, one of my secretarys seen "M" at Uni de Antioquia the other day, she said she put on a little weight! off to the bush soon.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1317332]Beautiful sight? Hell it felt good too. Not 70 yet, but that dude was a lucky bastard.

I'm thinking we all want to have that woman's tongue down our throats when we're 70.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1317538]LT,

She's got this boyfriend in Bogota who looks after her, the bar is just a working interest and keeps her busy when he's not in town.

A. G.

Hey, one of my secretarys seen "M" at Uni de Antioquia the other day, she said she put on a little weight! Off to the Bush soon.[/QUOTE]A. G, I bet it was at EAFIT, that's where she's going. One of the best private universities in South America. I finally convinced her that to change Colombia that she has to do it from within the establishment. Still a revolutionary, and you must love that passion and love for the common man. A little weight? She doesn't have to eat just rice and beans anymore. Besides, she not a young girl anymore; she's a woman. She did "fill out" a bit when she was in the USA, but is still very flaco.

Only good energy for you, my amigo

[QUOTE=Superboy1; 1315044]I have been going to Medellin for the past 7years on vacation so I will answer your questions from my side of things, of course others will be different.

Would you rate sex tourism as good or bad? Why. I did not know there was sex tourism going on in Medellin, if there is it is bad.

Why pay for sex? Why colombian women? I do not pay for sex, but if I do meet a nice girl in Medellin and she does go back with me, I pay her to leave. Why Colombian women. Well if I am on vacation in Medellin the chances are that I will meet a hot colombian women, as the old saying goes `When in Rome`[/QUOTE]I go to these places because I can get 9's or 10's without having to work for it. I can get girls in the states, but don't want to put out the effort and lies to get them to sleep with me. Its just so much easier to go to brazil, mexico, or Medellin to get legit playboy quality girls for 60 to 100 bucks. I tend to bore easy with even hot girls, so I always need something new.

Regular girls are just so much work, and when you put forth the effort and they like you, how do you break it off after a month because you want something new. Its hard to do on a regular basis. If it wasnt so cheap to get 9's in all these countries, I would stay in america and sarge, but since its so easy to go across the border to Tijuana, at minimum, and get a real good looking 20yo with natural D's, why bother with american girls.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1317815]Regular girls are just so much work, and when you put forth the effort and they like you, how do you break it off after a month because you want something new. Its hard to do on a regular basis.[/QUOTE]You said it brother! That's the tough part, breaking it off.

I still usually have a girlfriend, but play with the PFP for variety.

Works for me.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1318123]You said it brother! That's the tough part, breaking it off.

I still usually have a girlfriend, but play with the PFP for variety.

Works for me.[/QUOTE]I was on one of my first mongering trips in Mexico or it became a mongering trip but was original for golf, as the time the group was 25 or younger. I said to the group "do you guys want to go to the club and try to pick up some regular girls?" and one of the other guys says "Who needs regular girls?"

I never forgot that conversation.

I'm playing the same cards; Regular GF for diner, finca, taking care of me when I'm sick, cooking, ect. Pros for the spice of life!

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1317815]Regular girls are just so much work, and when you put forth the effort and they like you, how do you break it off after a month because you want something new. Its hard to do on a regular basis.[/QUOTE]It's funny, because guys I meet IRL always argue against this idea, talking about having a duty to be with one girl, and "one true love" kind of talk.

I am honest, I do treat the P4P girls well and have tremendous fun with them, it is not something disrespectful to anyone to enjoy a multitude of women of all cultures, kinds of beauties, and personalities.

I would not be happy if I could not have a nice variety of women to share special moments with, and I refuse to live unhappily just to live up to somebody else's standards.

And if a P4P woman is truly amazing, as in fits exactly what I have always wanted, I am all for repeating with her more than once, and keeping her in my life.

About to plan my first trip & thinking of renting a car as well.

Quick question.

I have seen you guys mention certain names for these casas.

& looked at a few pics.

Do these casas have the name of the establishment on them?

How would I be able to know a casas vs regular business / home.

Is there places to park around the city? (street parking)

Is driving around the city difficult?

Which casas is the best for some. 9-10 in looks & performance

[QUOTE=Infamous Man;1318355]Do these casas have the name of the establishment on them[/QUOTE]No.

[QUOTE=Infamous Man;1318355]How would I be able to know a casas vs regular business / home.[/QUOTE]Refer to the map of centro casas.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=206810231178282017429.000494779e6b2fb07f4d4&ll=6.253808[/url]

[QUOTE=Infamous Man;1318355]Is there places to park around the city? (street parking)[/QUOTE]Yes but very few and somewhat hard to find.

[QUOTE=Infamous Man;1318355]Is driving around the city difficult?[/QUOTE]Yes, not recommended.

[QUOTE=Infamous Man;1318355]Which casas is the best for some. 9-10 in looks & performance[/QUOTE]New life. If you're lucky, you might get an 8, not 9-10. Fase II is a better bet but prepare to pay a fortune.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy; 1318276]It's funny, because guys I meet IRL always argue against this idea, talking about having a duty to be with one girl, and "one true love" kind of talk.

I am honest, I do treat the P4P girls well and have tremendous fun with them, it is not something disrespectful to anyone to enjoy a multitude of women of all cultures, kinds of beauties, and personalities.

I would not be happy if I could not have a nice variety of women to share special moments with, and I refuse to live unhappily just to live up to somebody else's standards.

And if a P4P woman is truly amazing, as in fits exactly what I have always wanted, I am all for repeating with her more than once, and keeping her in my life.[/QUOTE]I wish I could express my thoughts as well as you. My feeling, exactly, but in a little different context. Respect, care, compassion and only good energy with everyone we let into our lives, whether it's for an hour or longer.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy; 1318276]It's funny, because guys I meet IRL always argue against this idea, talking about having a duty to be with one girl, and "one true love" kind of talk.

I am honest, I do treat the P4P girls well and have tremendous fun with them, it is not something disrespectful to anyone to enjoy a multitude of women of all cultures, kinds of beauties, and personalities.

I would not be happy if I could not have a nice variety of women to share special moments with, and I refuse to live unhappily just to live up to somebody else's standards.

And if a P4P woman is truly amazing, as in fits exactly what I have always wanted, I am all for repeating with her more than once, and keeping her in my life.[/QUOTE]People that look down on what we do don't know what they are missing. No girlfriend or wife in the US can compare to a hot 18 to 25 year old latina chick with natural double dd and a great attitude. Sure, there are risks of disease, and I always wear condoms during sex, but you just can't beat the thrill. Banging some 40 year old with 3 kids isn't my idea of fun. I want to bang 18 to 25 until I die.

Men it means a lot to pick a chica that actually seems to like you, I've made many mistakes picking a girl thats a standoffish hot biatch over an 8 with a good attitude, then I find out the hot one has African tittys or worse. Good energy. Nothing worse than a girl with painted on jeans but a giant fat ass some how fits in them, or a nice cleavage only to have droopy set of Africans. Stay kool every 1

[quote=vegas jeff; 1316802][url]http://watchdocumentary.com/watch/worlds-scariest-drug-video_c8a858703.html[/url]

for those who are not familiar with this drug this video is a must watch. the drug is seeing and increase in medellin. i know two locals who this drug was used on recently. someone might have posted info on this topic 100 pages ago, but with the way this forum is setup who knows. please comment if you have something to add regarding this serious topic.[/quote]i must be the luckiest guy in the world. i have been in the worst places in medellin you can imagine. for seven years i've visited just about every high & low end club in medellin, from bello, centro to itagui, and spent 5 years hanging out in la mayorista and i have never encountered or even heard of such a drug, except for the typical date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug, which is probably the same thing. whatever its story, one thing is clear from my experience and from the report itself, it is not commonly used. the only time i ever lost track of time, space and reality was after drinking an entire bottle of rum and half a bottle of aguardiente with a friend, he, he.

frank casio!

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1316491]Exit Ayura station and walk / taxi about 4 blocks (Clle 85) to the west (left). You will see bars and girls. It would be better after 9pm.

I'm comming to Medellin the 3d of Sep. For a 3week trip! Ill be staying in the Centro for a week or so! Since I can't find a map showing the Mayorista area, I was needing to know the nearest Metro stop, and directions on walking from the Metro stop to Mayorista!

Thanks guys[/QUOTE]Here is your Map guy, good luck!

[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1318355]About to plan my first trip & thinking of renting a car as well.

Quick question.

I have seen you guys mention certain names for these casas.

& looked at a few pics.

Do these casas have the name of the establishment on them?

How would I be able to know a casas vs regular business / home.

Is there places to park around the city? (street parking)

Is driving around the city difficult?

Which casas is the best for some. 9-10 in looks & performance[/QUOTE]Traffic sucks, parking is a hassle, Car rental is relitively expensive, Taxis are cheap and plentiful

So, you tell me that you come here because you like colombian girls, and because it's easier. But, in the years of intense violence in the city, did you kept coming here? This city isn't the most secure place in earth, even now, then, why would risk your life coming here for a bunch of women?

This are my last questions. Thanks all for your answers and time.

The casa all have flashing neon lites showing their names for people on their first trip away from home who are too lazy to read the wealth of info in previous posts, even the real lazy would read 'reports of distinction"

[QUOTE=Danny Shark; 1318629]So, you tell me that you come here because you like colombian girls, and because it's easier. But, in the years of intense violence in the city, did you kept coming here? This city isn't the most secure place in earth, even now, then, why would risk your life coming here for a bunch of women?

This are my last questions. Thanks all for your answers and time.[/QUOTE]It's not quite that simple. Men come here for everything that Medellin has to offer. Beautiful weather, friendly people, excellent food, and, of course, some of the most beautiful women on earth. Medellin is not the safest city on the earth, but it depends on where you are and with whom you are keeping company. Life is not risk free.

For me, the Paisa women are very aware of their sexual powers, and utilize them to get what they want. It really is a degree of security and protection, whether they see that by sharing their time for an hour, a day, a week. Or a lifetime. They all have the same goal. And, in Colombia, if you are discrete, there exist a fairly open society, so sexual tourism is condoned if not encouraged. In a conversation with a Paisa man, almost always he will raise the issue and comment on how beautiful the women of Medellin are. It's a sense of pride with most, I believe. The women, or at least the smart ones, know exactly how to get what they want. God bless 'them. She sure made them beautiful.

Sex workers exist everywhere. Just look at this website. Want sex in Medellin, or in a Muslim country? You can find where to find it here. But the Colombian sex worker is known world wide and the girls go everywhere. Besides drugs, the Colombian sex worker goes all over this world, and are considered among the best available. But, why is it that Colombian girls are so free to go and become sex workers? It's not simply economics. There is no lack of economic need in South and Central America. But, go anywhere, and you will find the Colombian sex worker. You don't see the same kind of numbers of working girls from any other country. Why? That is a more relevant question, to me.

Life has allways been a risk, true, you can lock yourself up in your room and never really face any risk, you won't be hurt, but you won't be alive, the biggest risk you will ever take is to take no risk at all, but danger is my middle name, keep it real Men.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1318781]Men come here for everything that Medellin has to offer. Beautiful weather, friendly people, excellent food, and, of course, some of the most beautiful women on earth.[/QUOTE]I love Colombia as much as the next guy. In fact I plan to live there as soon as I finish getting my affairs in order here in the states. I personally have a different reason for living in Colombia, I have a three year old daughter there and want to be part of her life and help raise her. To say that men come here because of the weather and food is preposterous in my opinion. Men come here for one reason and one reason only and that is the women, they enjoy everything else this beautiful country has to offer as an aside only. If there were no women none of us would have come to Colombia.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1318805]I love Colombia as much as the next guy. In fact I plan to live there as soon as I finish getting my affairs in order here in the states. I personally have a different reason for living in Colombia, I have a three year old daughter there and want to be part of her life and help raise her. To say that men come here because of the weather and food is preposterous in my opinion. Men come here for one reason and one reason only and that is the women, they enjoy everything else this beautiful country has to offer as an aside only. If there were no women none of us would have come to Colombia.[/QUOTE]A little breath of fresh air honesty here! Thank-you!

That and decrepit krusty old gringos like to come here to be perverted, and live out their delusional fantasies where hot, young women "like" them because they think they're self proclaimed "casanovas" and they're "philosophical sermons" in spanglish are an aphodisiac to Colombian women, not the girth of their wallets! Jejejeje

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1318805]Men come here for one reason and one reason only and that is the women, they enjoy everything else this beautiful country has to offer as an aside only. If there were no women none of us would have come to Colombia.[/QUOTE]Well said. Everything else this beautiful country has to offer is only an aside.

[QUOTE=Reefski;1318840]Please don't argue with my spiritual guru when he's on a roll trying to impress a reporter. Pissing on his parade is obviously bad energy, even if it's true.[/QUOTE]Jejejeje LOL.

I personally enjoy the fat statues at the botero museum, riding the metro, metro cable all day, then walk over to watch the street jugglers then finally topping it all off with a world class thai smorgasbord at thaico! Could do this everyday easily for a couple of weeks. Beach and women? Who needs them.

"only ejaculating little good energies"

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1318847]Could do this everyday easily for a couple of weeks. Beach and women? Who needs them.[/QUOTE]Las escaleras electricas. I could ride the 6 of them up and down everyday for a week with some neighborhood kids.

Cheers.

I came here for different reasons.

1) The weather.
2) Low property values.
3) High standard of living at a reasonable price.
4) Beautiful but complicated girls.
5) An exciting country ready to open up to international tourism and trade.
6) Great food, music and very friendly people who are very agriculural minded.
7) Spectacular mountains, rivers.
Thats why I have settled in Colombia.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1318837]Well said. Everything else this beautiful country has to offer is only an aside.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1318805]I love Colombia as much as the next guy. In fact I plan to live there as soon as I finish getting my affairs in order here in the states. I personally have a different reason for living in Colombia, I have a three year old daughter there and want to be part of her life and help raise her[/QUOTE]The best reason in the world. To come to give love and attention. No discussion of whether she will love you, or not: with your plan, it can't be avoided. She has a daddy that loves her and wants to be in her life, and is willing to move a continent away to do it You will change her life, as she has changed yours. What a gift!

Thanks for the good energy.

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[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1318861]Las escaleras electricas. I could ride the 6 of them up and down everyday for a week with some neighborhood kids.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Thats a real fucked up neighborhood they put those escalators in (slums of comuna 13) I wouldn't recommend anybody "sightseeing" those. Why a gringo would need to be hanging around in that area is beyond me. Even if I did find that "diamond in the rough" in that estrato 0-1, I would make her take the metro or spring for a taxi!

[QUOTE=Dashing Don; 1319148]What the hell is happening to the ISG?

Yogi Tender is smothering us with peace and love. Swami Ricker is crooning 'We are the World'. Goddamed Rainbow Coalition.

Ya know something; I never thought I'd say this, but I'm beginning to miss Urban Wildlife.

-Only hard rods-[/QUOTE]Well, it really is all about "Peace and Love" or is it about getting a peice and loving it?

[QUOTE=Danny Shark; 1318629]So, you tell me that you come here because you like colombian girls, and because it's easier. But, in the years of intense violence in the city, did you kept coming here? This city isn't the most secure place in earth, even now, then, why would risk your life coming here for a bunch of women?

This are my last questions. Thanks all for your answers and time.[/QUOTE]"why would risk your life coming here for a bunch of women?"

My short answer is I go because it is awesome here. A little danger is a good thing as it keeps away a lot of overpaying sheep.

Now if MDE is a little to racy for some then go to CTG instead. It is safer there, and you can pay for that safety in spades.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1318865]I came here for different reasons.

1) The weather.

2) Low property values.

3) High standard of living at a reasonable price.

4) Beautiful but complicated girls.

5) An exciting country ready to open up to international tourism and trade.

6) Great food, music and very friendly people who are very agriculural minded.

7) Spectacular mountains, rivers.

Thats why I have settled in Colombia.

A. G.[/QUOTE]I agree with all but one. Great food? Only if you don't mind about variety. One maybe two decent Italian and one decent Chinese restaurant. Good Peruvian food. That's it! No Greek, Turkish, Indian, Thai etc. Not even fresh (living) lobsters!

Men,
I eat Colombian cobber and the odd Aussie Gregs barbie pool side, smahed potatoes mmmmmmm. Dont go out much now, I like cooking in the kitchen, sanchocho australiano, my aussie meat pies and of course my Aunty Kates famous apple pie's with granny smiths apples and vanila ice cream.

I'll be living on fresh "living" lobsters for the next 3 weeks mate in Choco and Uraba.
Plenty of Greek around, you just need to ask the right girls mate!
Indian, I'll be there for 2 months next Febuary watching cricket, not looking forward to that but I guess they have a few more resteraunts international since 86 when I was there, I hope !!.
As for Turkish, I do miss there beef / lamb / fresh bread rolls on the banks of the Borsfruss.
A. G.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1319302]I agree with all but one. Great food? Only if you don't mind about variety. One maybe two decent Italian and one decent Chinese restaurant. Good Peruvian food. That's it! No Greek, Turkish, Indian, Thai etc. Not even fresh (living) lobsters![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1318381]No.

Refer to the map of centro casas.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=206810231178282017429.000494779e6b2fb07f4d4&ll=6.253808[/url][/QUOTE]I wish I saw this map before I booked my hotel. I will be staying at the Best Western Skyplus, which isn't close to any of this. Not so far distance wise, but.

I imagine with traffic, it's not so close either.

3 Quick questions.

1. Are the SW in El centro (53 and degriff) there also at day time or like Mayo (after 10 pm)?

2. How much should TLN should cost on the low end (Mayorista, El centro SW')?

3. Any recommended girls friendly Hotels at El Cnetro?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1318865]I came here for different reasons.

1) The weather.

2) Low property values.

3) High standard of living at a reasonable price.

4) Beautiful but complicated girls.

5) An exciting country ready to open up to international tourism and trade.

6) Great food, music and very friendly people who are very agriculural minded.

7) Spectacular mountains, rivers.

Thats why I have settled in Colombia.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Right on the money, those are the very same reasons I came to Medellin. I looked into Real Estate in Costa Rica and realized quickly that it was over priced. I figured, Colombia being a virgin Country with less tourism and outside investments would have much better Real Estate prices, and I was right. My researched payed off and I was able to make $25, 000 on my very first investment and purchased a second property. Not to mention that everybody was scared shitless of Colombia keeping real estate and everything else reasonably priced.

Second thing I did was to look at pictures of women from Costa Rica and Colombia in A Foreign Affair and Colombian Sweethearts websites, and realized right away that colombian women were much more beautiful and greater in numbers. I was not looking at all at the tourism industry and came precisely because I didn't think there was any. I came looking for a wife and found an Eternal Spring Paradise with beautiful mountains, greenery, flowers and more women than one can ever dream of. I tried to get married, but it was difficult with so many beautiful women, and you all know how that went. The rest of that story is written in these ISG pages, he, he.

After almost 6 years I finally got my Permenant Residence in Colombia and I'm more free now to live outside in the USA, as before I had to proof for 5 years that I resided in Colombia. Hence for 5 and a half years I only came back to the USA for 3 weeks every year. Now I can stay out of Colombia up to 2 years and not loose my Colombian Residency. But of course I never stay away that long. I spend 3 months in Tampa and 2 months in Medellin and so on.

And the second thing I don't share with Aussie is the "great food" idea. The food is precisely what I find the most boring in Colombia and why I stay in Tampa 3 months and only 2 months in Medellin. I find the great variety of food and reataurants at reasonable prices in the USA far superior to the meager selection in Colombia. Any variance in Colombia from the typical "Bandeja Paisa" can get costly for a colombian budget. You might be thinking, with so many beautiful women in Medellin why spend more time in Tampa? Well, with respect to that, after having access to so many women in Medellin, you need a break. And at 53, I'm finding out now that indulging my palate is almost up there with the beautiful women in Medellin, he, he.

But I am leaving my mark in this beautiful Medellin Paradise. In a couple of weeks I will be having a baby with a nice "Paisita".28 yrs. Old, with degrees in Accounting and Enviromental concerns.

Frank Casio!

53 & DeGreif looks more dangerous to me than Mayorista after dusk. I think you can find chicas at DeGreif starting 2-3pm until all hours of the night.

The latest I have cruised DeGreif is 8pm. It's been a long time since I have found any talent worth writing home about from there.

Mayorisita appears safely to me. I have walked up & down that 3 block strip until 2-3am. Some girls can be found mid to late afternoon but the chicas.

Arrive en masse starting at 8pm or so. They keep coming from other working spots until well past midnight. The talent varies from night to night.

I would not try to get a chica for TLN until you have had ST sessions with her. I imagine 100K-150KCOP would get you TLN or a couple of pops. TLN is a.

Good concept but as I get older my attention span has gotten shorter. I'll would settle very nicely for an intense media hora for 30K instead these days.

Love motels are all over in Centro, the most popular one for the street girl scene is Hotel Eros (down the block from DeGreif) and Hotel Premier (near the Botero Museum).

Check out the Medellin Lists section for addresses & telephone numbers.

[QUOTE=Bennn; 1319778]3 Quick questions.

1. Are the SW in El centro (53 and degriff) there also at day time or like Mayo (after 10 pm)?

2. How much should TLN should cost on the low end (Mayorista, El centro SW')?

3. Any recommended girls friendly Hotels at El Cnetro?

Thanks[/QUOTE]There's chicas in the El Centro SW areas (53 and Degriff) 24-7. But its safer to go in the daytime before 8pm. Too dangerous after that. Also there's dozens of short time hotels in El Centro. One that comes to mind is Hotel Cascada close to the corner of 53 and 51.

At the Sandiego grill, is there a room fee in addition to the chicas fee of $120mil. ? Androys? Gary

Coming to Medellin for first time in early septemer. Should I stay in el centro area or mayorista, and can anyone recommend a good hotel in each area where I could walk to casas or pick up SW. Being a first timer, safety is an issue. Been to sousa and normally like to walk the strips let, and how far apart are the two areas.

I like Medellin for the Women, the women, and the women, oh did I mention I like the Women. HAhaja

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1320221]Thanks for the autobiography Frank, and congrats on the baby!

Good luck amigo.

The Rainbow coalition.

(the heck with the grumpy, negative, non productive, bullying, bashing posters)

Being happy has it's advantages, duhhhh.

Just ask Frank.[/QUOTE]Hi Ricker, yup, you are totally right. I used to be dragged into the mud trying to correct what I thought were mis-representations of Colombia or La Mayorista till I finally realized the less people the better it is for me. More my little Paradise, more paisitas for me, or like the saying goes in Spanish;"menos perros para la comida", or there abouts. Hope you leave your mark in Brazil, he, he.

Frank Casio!

Several weeks ago, there was a discussion of Geraldine, her estrangement from her Yankee, and the more relevant issue of whether, in my opinion, the most enduring sex worker in Medellin, still had something to offer the monger. No doubt, Geraldine is no longer fresh. She says she is 24, but from what I've read, she's been a sex worker since she was 14. Some first met her when she was a street worker. Here are some very recent photos. I still say, show this girl a little good energy, and she will leave you weak.

Oh, she told me the story with her former Yankee fiancee. No need to stroke the drama comments, but she did opine that he is a "motherfu*ker." Life goes on.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1320432]Several weeks ago, there was a discussion of Geraldine, her estrangement from her Yankee, and the more relevant issue of whether, in my opinion, the most enduring sex worker in Medellin, still had something to offer the monger. No doubt, Geraldine is no longer fresh. She says she is 24, but from what I've read, she's been a sex worker since she was 14. Some first met her when she was a street worker. Here are some very recent photos. I still say, show this girl a little good energy, and she will leave you weak.

Oh, she told me the story with her former Yankee fiancee. No need to stroke the drama comments, but she did opine that he is a "motherfu*ker." Life goes on.[/QUOTE]I'm liking the new put on a few pounds look! Maybe time to hit that again?

20Jul-21Aug Here it is:

Arrived at night and as always took the airport-Medellin bus to my hotel for siete mil quinientos 7, 500pesos.

Room costs 25, 000 pesitos per night.

I immediately go to the local bar / kiosk area and find me a sweet sardina. I make eye contact and smile, she smiles back. I call her over from the crowd and she comes still smiling. I tell her what I want and she agrees to my offered 20k. She resisted at first coming to my hotel and wanted to go to one of the cheap run down hotels where all the working girls and local men go to. Since my hotel is near, she accepted. What a body this girl has! Firm. Firm with small waist and perky small breast barely enough to fit in my mouth. I tried. LOL.

I told her I wanted her for TLN but she couldn't that night. So I offered her another 20 for a second pop and she did it, although I had to help the poor girl who never complained about the time. Too bad I never saw her again!

The next day I hit the new life CASA. I found a new cute and petit blanquita and this time I did pay the extra BBBJ 20k pesos I criticized others for in the past. I guess the damage has been done! But her service wasn't something to talk about! Another proof paying extra plata doesn't guarantee major servisios. That's why you won't see my azz in F-2. *

I hit my pharmacy in el centro for my C-vitamin and the magic of genotropin and of I go cruising the "Oriental" for girls from the communas. I found two stopped to buy some chickle and I ask to invite them for un refresco nearby. The one I really wanted to bang flat out turned me down, but her friend said yes and all three of us sat down. Now I sensed it was a bad sign when the one who said yes started to order food! I should've just said no. But I said to myself, let's just wait and see. After all the total bill was just 8k. But sure enough she asked for 100k per hour. I laughed and told her I only offer $70 so we parted.

Too bad because she too had a nice young body with a delicious hip to waist ratio. Something about these comunas girls that excites the heck out of my dick. Even the way they talk.

I go back to check other casas but nothing worthy. So I go back to my hotel area and I spot a shorty slightly bushy eyebrowed trigueña but had clothe that suggested nice perky and big tits. Same thing I take her to my room and she was just like I expected and her breasts were even fuller than her clothe insinuated. Found out she was a caleña. I fucked her so good that evening she came all over my happy friend that I forgot the waisted time with the two girls from el centro earlier. She had a clean and delicious body. Only thing I wished she had shaved her legs. But where it counted the most she was bare skin for my tongue. I repeated once with her and took her to see " el dictator" in premium plaza. *

The next day I decide to make it a casa day. So I copied most of the casas on a paper with the streets drown out and since I stay in el centro I just walk. The first one I hit is literally a block away from my hotel: CASA geisha. A big disappointment just like my last trip except the mamasan had a bad attitude and the girls were uglier. Too bad since its proximity, I can just make it a daily pilgrimage after my 3, 500 pesos breakfast! *Next CASA is again a block away: casa de fantasias. Picked the cutest girl I liked but a horrible performance. Even though I paid the extra 20k for BBBJ. Sory guys, I really can't recall neither the name nor the face. I've had better sessions since. But if I do go back I will get a name. Next I basically hit the three casae on cr 47 within a couple of blocks from each other. Nothing interesting, so I go to one of my favorites "Masajes de sexi" and I pick a tall Blanca with braces and black hair. She gave a great service and looked fantastic from the doggy dog position with her onion like nalgas. I am satisfied now.) I decided I needed to hit "camino real" and with no sexual pressure and tension I cruise the outside and inside of the mall for normal or semipro chicas. I finally find a trigueña sitting alone inside on a bench. I approach and ask "puedo sentar aqui" she looks up at me and smiles and nods her head up and down. I start telling her how great the weather is in Medellin and that it is one of the reason why I love Medallo. I never told her about the other reasons. Jajajaja Found out she was waiting on her manicure appointment time, *she worked for her father who owns a clothing company and that she really is a sociable and confident woman. We exchanged numbers and she went for her appointment and that's when I got to see her full body as she stood up. Nice! Her name is Gloria and her glory was revealed. *

(time out comment). What a sharp contrast to my adolescence days in a sexually conservative middle eastern country where finding a VHS porn tape in those depressive days was an achievement. Wow man. Just wow.

Anyhow, I go back to my mongering habits and don't even call Gloria. In fact I was trying unsuccessfully to again have the same hot GFE sex I had with Nancy from last trip. But Nancy quickly wake up from her own fantasy with me and realized I just wanted a girlfriend for the vacation. Damm it, really damn it. Just lost a great ASSet in Medallo. I hate that! That's when all of the sudden gloria calls and asks about my days since we met. I said everything was peachy. Bacano. Chevery.) Gloria keeps on talking when I realize she really wants to bang me but as a typical paisa she wants me to initiate something. Actually she just did. All I had to do is set up the plan: a cocktail in "Martin Martini" then to 33 and dance close together with a couple of more drinks and shots. *

(timeout comment) how on earth a club / bar on 33 has no tequila or aguardiente which was what Gloria wanted. No GUARO! *In Medallo. Wow man. Just wow.

Anyhow, By now there is no doubt Gloria is so feeling my 90% erection grinding against her inner thigh while Plan-B is blasting through the loudspeakers. We take a taxi to her home and she has a 12 yrs old. No time out comment. Let's just see what happens. We had a conversation previously about her not wanting a boyfriend. That she enjoys her life as a single mother. But now I am thinking there is a 12 yrs old really nice boy in the house and I want to bang his mommy. Mmmm. It was a bit uncomfortable but we did it. She didn't give it all out sighting her son was next door and that tomorrow she'll feel better if we do it in my hotel room. *And we did. It was fantastic. *

Gloria is 31 but even I didn't believe her and I am anal about doing only younger women. But man she got a body. Natural selection is in her side for sure. She told me she hasn't been with a man for three months. I didn't know what to say! I know she had multiple orgasms and she had to literally beg me to stop after she ran out of natural moister and the friction was unbearable to her. So I saved my load for the morning. We had chemistry and we were in synch with the kissing that it felt like we were one person. That was one of my memorable GFE in Medallo. *Of course it wasn't all free. I paid for the outings. Although I can say she wasn't after money because when she gets to my hotel in taxi she never waits for me to come down and pay. But of course I give her taxi money when she leaves. I naught her a pair of boots for the cabalgata and that was around $62. But she surprised me on my final day by sending me a men's bracelet gift with her taxi friend on the way to the airport. *

We had many crazy sex nights and by now I realize I need more variety. So I hit the casas again. And this time I went to the casa where they show the girls topless on weekend. Well, it wasn't weekend and I asked if it was possible to show topless. The guy agreed. Funny thing I picked the only girl who didn't come out topless and I struck gold. LOL she was a new girl as her innocent young *looks suggested too. * Great service except she has cracked front tooth if you read between the lines.

I met a local driver who was trying to sell me maryjane but I told him my only drug are women. To my surprise he offered to bring me one of his acquaintances the next day if I call. I explained I am not looking for pros or veterans. The next day he brought me a 22 yrs old big booty morena. She asked for 100 I explained to her this is not my first time in medallo and I only want short time. So she accepted my 50. *Good session, but won't repeat. Very commercial like attitude.

The next one he brought was his cousin and she was barely 18 and firm body all around. Much better looking than the first girl. One of the best sex I had. I can tell I was her first gringo. And most likely one of few sex experiences she ever had. I gave her 60. I regret not giving her more as for some reason, she always wanted to introduce me someone else. And who does she bring me again? The first morena I didn't like so I told them one can stay, and of course she says no she can't. Just like that. And the older fatter morena calls the shots. Now, I am mad cause it is obvious my sweet girl is being influenced by this hardened nasty attitude *****. I even offered her 100 for LT but no response. The next day she still want to hook me up with another friend. By this time I lose faith in her and in the driver as he makes up lies about his cousin being busy with other men and that he will will bring her in the next day. All lies. Too bad it would have been a great source for fresh girls.

He tried bringing me much lesser quality older girls with silicone implants. I reminded him of what I don't want. I guess he just over promised and under delivered. That's why he never returned my calls later. So not recommended PERIOD.

Ok, I am stateside now and real busy guys so lets wrap this up, shall we? I ended the day by having Gloria spend the night after both of us partied in her aunt's house. In the morning I made an excuse to separate so to shag someone else. I ended up shagging the first girl I did when I got to Medellin and just when I thought I lost her. LOL what a great ending. *

THE END.

BS.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1320221]

... (the heck with the grumpy, negative, non productive, bullying, bashing posters)

Being happy has it's advantages, duhhhh.

Just ask Frank.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Hioctanee;1320280]I agree as there is no place on the forum for the MiamiHeatLuvers, Reefski's (wink) and several more of these grumpy, negative, non productive, bullying, bashing posters, but at the same time they are the most informative posters on the board.[/QUOTE]Well, I wasn't referring to Miami or Reefski in my post actually, but other occassional disruptive guys.

Miami and Reefski are actually mis amigos, and though we may disagree at times, I do appreciate their experience and humor (Reefski).

Have fun!

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1320548]20Jul-21Aug Here it is:

Arrived at night and as always took the airport-Medellin bus to my hotel for siete mil quinientos 7, 500pesos.

Room costs 25, 000 pesitos per night.

I immediately go to the local bar / kiosk area and find me a sweet sardina. I make eye contact and smile, she smiles back. I call her over from the crowd and she comes still smiling. I tell her what I want and she agrees to my offered 20k. She resisted at first coming to my hotel and wanted to go to one of the cheap run down hotels where all the working girls and local men go to. Since my hotel is near, she accepted. What a body this girl has! Firm. Firm with small waist and perky small breast barely enough to fit in my mouth. I tried. LOL.

I told her I wanted her for TLN but she couldn't that night. So I offered her another 20 for a second pop and she did it, although I had to help the poor girl who never complained about the time. Too bad I never saw her again!

The next day I hit the new life CASA. I found a new cute and petit blanquita and this time I did pay the extra BBBJ 20k pesos I criticized others for in the past. I guess the damage has been done! But her service wasn't something to talk about! Another proof paying extra plata doesn't guarantee major servisios. That's why you won't see my azz in F-2. *

I hit my pharmacy in el centro for my C-vitamin and the magic of genotropin and of I go cruising the "Oriental" for girls from the communas. I found two stopped to buy some chickle and I ask to invite them for un refresco nearby. The one I really wanted to bang flat out turned me down, but her friend said yes and all three of us sat down. Now I sensed it was a bad sign when the one who said yes started to order food! I should've just said no. But I said to myself, let's just wait and see. After all the total bill was just 8k. But sure enough she asked for 100k per hour. I laughed and told her I only offer $70 so we parted.

Too bad because she too had a nice young body with a delicious hip to waist ratio. Something about these comunas girls that excites the heck out of my dick. Even the way they talk.

I go back to check other casas but nothing worthy. So I go back to my hotel area and I spot a shorty slightly bushy eyebrowed trigueña but had clothe that suggested nice perky and big tits. Same thing I take her to my room and she was just like I expected and her breasts were even fuller than her clothe insinuated. Found out she was a caleña. I fucked her so good that evening she came all over my happy friend that I forgot the waisted time with the two girls from el centro earlier. She had a clean and delicious body. Only thing I wished she had shaved her legs. But where it counted the most she was bare skin for my tongue. I repeated once with her and took her to see " el dictator" in premium plaza. *

The next day I decide to make it a casa day. So I copied most of the casas on a paper with the streets drown out and since I stay in el centro I just walk. The first one I hit is literally a block away from my hotel: CASA geisha. A big disappointment just like my last trip except the mamasan had a bad attitude and the girls were uglier. Too bad since its proximity, I can just make it a daily pilgrimage after my 3, 500 pesos breakfast! *Next CASA is again a block away: casa de fantasias. Picked the cutest girl I liked but a horrible performance. Even though I paid the extra 20k for BBBJ. Sory guys, I really can't recall neither the name nor the face. I've had better sessions since. But if I do go back I will get a name. Next I basically hit the three casae on cr 47 within a couple of blocks from each other. Nothing interesting, so I go to one of my favorites "Masajes de sexi" and I pick a tall Blanca with braces and black hair. She gave a great service and looked fantastic from the doggy dog position with her onion like nalgas. I am satisfied now.) I decided I needed to hit "camino real" and with no sexual pressure and tension I cruise the outside and inside of the mall for normal or semipro chicas. I finally find a trigueña sitting alone inside on a bench. I approach and ask "puedo sentar aqui" she looks up at me and smiles and nods her head up and down. I start telling her how great the weather is in Medellin and that it is one of the reason why I love Medallo. I never told her about the other reasons. Jajajaja Found out she was waiting on her manicure appointment time, *she worked for her father who owns a clothing company and that she really is a sociable and confident woman. We exchanged numbers and she went for her appointment and that's when I got to see her full body as she stood up. Nice! Her name is Gloria and her glory was revealed. *

(time out comment). What a sharp contrast to my adolescence days in a sexually conservative middle eastern country where finding a VHS porn tape in those depressive days was an achievement. Wow man. Just wow.

Anyhow, I go back to my mongering habits and don't even call Gloria. In fact I was trying unsuccessfully to again have the same hot GFE sex I had with Nancy from last trip. But Nancy quickly wake up from her own fantasy with me and realized I just wanted a girlfriend for the vacation. Damm it, really damn it. Just lost a great ASSet in Medallo. I hate that! That's when all of the sudden gloria calls and asks about my days since we met. I said everything was peachy. Bacano. Chevery.) Gloria keeps on talking when I realize she really wants to bang me but as a typical paisa she wants me to initiate something. Actually she just did. All I had to do is set up the plan: a cocktail in "Martin Martini" then to 33 and dance close together with a couple of more drinks and shots. *

(timeout comment) how on earth a club / bar on 33 has no tequila or aguardiente which was what Gloria wanted. No GUARO! *In Medallo. Wow man. Just wow.

Anyhow, By now there is no doubt Gloria is so feeling my 90% erection grinding against her inner thigh while Plan-B is blasting through the loudspeakers. We take a taxi to her home and she has a 12 yrs old. No time out comment. Let's just see what happens. We had a conversation previously about her not wanting a boyfriend. That she enjoys her life as a single mother. But now I am thinking there is a 12 yrs old really nice boy in the house and I want to bang his mommy. Mmmm. It was a bit uncomfortable but we did it. She didn't give it all out sighting her son was next door and that tomorrow she'll feel better if we do it in my hotel room. *And we did. It was fantastic. *

Gloria is 31 but even I didn't believe her and I am anal about doing only younger women. But man she got a body. Natural selection is in her side for sure. She told me she hasn't been with a man for three months. I didn't know what to say! I know she had multiple orgasms and she had to literally beg me to stop after she ran out of natural moister and the friction was unbearable to her. So I saved my load for the morning. We had chemistry and we were in synch with the kissing that it felt like we were one person. That was one of my memorable GFE in Medallo. *Of course it wasn't all free. I paid for the outings. Although I can say she wasn't after money because when she gets to my hotel in taxi she never waits for me to come down and pay. But of course I give her taxi money when she leaves. I naught her a pair of boots for the cabalgata and that was around $62. But she surprised me on my final day by sending me a men's bracelet gift with her taxi friend on the way to the airport. *

We had many crazy sex nights and by now I realize I need more variety. So I hit the casas again. And this time I went to the casa where they show the girls topless on weekend. Well, it wasn't weekend and I asked if it was possible to show topless. The guy agreed. Funny thing I picked the only girl who didn't come out topless and I struck gold. LOL she was a new girl as her innocent young *looks suggested too. * Great service except she has cracked front tooth if you read between the lines.

I met a local driver who was trying to sell me maryjane but I told him my only drug are women. To my surprise he offered to bring me one of his acquaintances the next day if I call. I explained I am not looking for pros or veterans. The next day he brought me a 22 yrs old big booty morena. She asked for 100 I explained to her this is not my first time in medallo and I only want short time. So she accepted my 50. *Good session, but won't repeat. Very commercial like attitude.

The next one he brought was his cousin and she was barely 18 and firm body all around. Much better looking than the first girl. One of the best sex I had. I can tell I was her first gringo. And most likely one of few sex experiences she ever had. I gave her 60. I regret not giving her more as for some reason, she always wanted to introduce me someone else. And who does she bring me again? The first morena I didn't like so I told them one can stay, and of course she says no she can't. Just like that. And the older fatter morena calls the shots. Now, I am mad cause it is obvious my sweet girl is being influenced by this hardened nasty attitude. I even offered her 100 for LT but no response. The next day she still want to hook me up with another friend. By this time I lose faith in her and in the driver as he makes up lies about his cousin being busy with other men and that he will will bring her in the next day. All lies. Too bad it would have been a great source for fresh girls.

He tried bringing me much lesser quality older girls with silicone implants. I reminded him of what I don't want. I guess he just over promised and under delivered. That's why he never returned my calls later. So not recommended PERIOD.

Ok, I am stateside now and real busy guys so lets wrap this up, shall we? I ended the day by having Gloria spend the night after both of us partied in her aunt's house. In the morning I made an excuse to separate so to shag someone else. I ended up shagging the first girl I did when I got to Medellin and just when I thought I lost her. LOL what a great ending. *

THE END.

BS.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the very detailed report. I'm now going to use your expression "doggy dog position"

OK now next time try 10K instead of 20K for the BBBJ. Almost all will except that. I don't even tell them a set price, just I will give them extra for it.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1320432]Several weeks ago, there was a discussion of Geraldine, her estrangement from her Yankee, and the more relevant issue of whether, in my opinion, the most enduring sex worker in Medellin, still had something to offer the monger. No doubt, Geraldine is no longer fresh. She says she is 24, but from what I've read, she's been a sex worker since she was 14. Some first met her when she was a street worker. Here are some very recent photos. I still say, show this girl a little good energy, and she will leave you weak.

Oh, she told me the story with her former Yankee fiancee. No need to stroke the drama comments, but she did opine that he is a "motherfu*ker." Life goes on.[/QUOTE]I love the last photo the best. Brings back memories.

Careful now with more posts like this one you may gain my respect, but no need to bring up the former Yankee boyfriend drama.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1320548]20Jul-21Aug Here it is:

Arrived at night and as always took the airport-Medellin bus to my hotel for siete mil quinientos 7, 500pesos.

Room costs 25, 000 pesitos per night.

I immediately go to the local bar / kiosk area and find me a sweet sardina. I make eye contact and smile, she smiles back. I call her over from the crowd...[/QUOTE]Well done very good report.

Wreckdiver

Nice report. Thanks.

Hey. What is the scoop on this Genotropin? Do you find that it helps in general?

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1320548]20Jul-21Aug Here it is:

Arrived at night and as always took the airport-Medellin bus to my hotel for siete mil quinientos 7, 500pesos.

Room costs 25, 000 pesitos per night.

I immediately go to the local bar / kiosk area and find me a...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hioctanee; 1320723]Another ISG police officer telling people what they can post and what they cannot. It has always been my belief that the monitoring of the postings of the forum, and the monitoring of the rules set forth in the forum is the responsibility of our great leader Mr. Jackson, who does an excellent job, not members such as yourself, Officer Johnny Jump up Gault.

I also love it when people feel a need to "gain respect" on an internet sex forum. This is fricking hilarious.[/QUOTE]Careful now as you have your tongue so far up Jackson's ass you will need a ventalator.

Your meager worthless posts gain no respect whatsoever.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1320548] ... I love Medallo. I never told her about the other reasons. Jajajaja Found out she was waiting on her manicure appointment time, *she worked for her father who owns a clothing company and that she really is a sociable and confident woman. We exchanged numbers and she went for her appointment and that's when I got to see her full body as she stood up. Nice! Her name is Gloria and her glory was revealed. *

(time out comment). What a sharp contrast to my adolescence days in a sexually conservative middle eastern country where finding a VHS porn tape in those depressive days was an achievement. Wow man. Just wow.

Anyhow, I go back to my mongering habits and don't even call Gloria ...

BS.[/QUOTE]Great trip report! Love your 'time out comments'.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=DiverDown69; 1320866]Nice report. Thanks.

Hey. What is the scoop on this Genotropin? Do you find that it helps in general?[/QUOTE]Hi guy, I researched it immediately as I'm always looking to imrove my strength as I get older. The generic name is Somatropin. It's an HGH (Human Growth Hormone) , identical to the biological one, but it's synthetic, better supposedly. It has 191 Aminoacids and is great for older men in improving their stamina and strength overall. It's consider good to take with Testasterone and Synthroid, which is great for me as I already take Synthroid and I'm always afraid of interactions.

The dosis is 2-6 IU daily, injected. It's supposed to be very costly, $1000US for a 1 month cycle in the USA. I need to know how much it costs in Colombia, I'm hoping it will be a lot less. It's supposed to be an "exact copy" of the natural HGH, helps with growth of muscles, bones, tendons, etc. It even helps with body fat. Who knows maybe it will grow my dick, he, he, it grows everything else!

As soon as I arrive in Medellin I'll try it if it's not too expensive, along with Testasterone and the Synthroid which I'm already taking. Last time I took Testasterone I got scared and stopped because it made me to aggressive, made me loose my temper easily. Hopefully I'll reach a balance here. I'll let you know if I survive without beating somebody up or vice-versa, he, he.

Frank Casio!

Hioctanee kinda puts things in line, when making a post I need the approval and evaluation of a Man on a sex forum all day. We shouldn't have to walk on eggshells here and I won't, and the rest of you should freely post, risking your self worth, haha, Man I hope I get some respect for this,

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1321193]We shouldn't have to walk on eggshells here and I won't, and the rest of you should freely post, risking your self worth, haha, Man I hope I get some respect for this,[/QUOTE]Oh thanks for your permission, are people allowed to post freely now? As for respect, oh yes El Bacano, you are a unique poster I'm sure you have your fans on here!

Do you not get that Hioctanee is simply the latest in a string of trolls over the last couple of months, stirring things up, insulting people? In fact, it's actually the same guy, over and over?

DeltaPilot, Playingthegame, Ronin, now Hioctanee. How it is working this time, Hioctanee insults long-time poster John Gault, Bacano follows the lead sort of criticizing JG, then Miami Heat jumps in sort of getting on Bacano, and the board disintegrates.

Miami Heat, by the way, is 100%. Every personification of this troll that has appeared on the board this past couple of months, that is DeltaPilot, Playingthegame, Ronin, and Hioctanee, Miami Heat has enthusiastically seconded their opinions and posts.

[quote=chesrep001; 1321204]do you not get that hioctanee is simply the latest in a string of trolls over the last couple of months, stirring things up, insulting people? in fact, it's actually the same guy, over and over?

deltapilot, playingthegame, ronin, now hioctanee. how it is working this time, hioctanee insults long-time poster john gault, bacano follows the lead sort of criticizing jg, then miami heat jumps in sort of getting on bacano, and the board disintegrates.

miami heat, by the way, is 100. every personification of this troll that has appeared on the board this past couple of months, that is deltapilot, playingthegame, ronin, and hioctanee, miami heat has enthusiastically seconded their opinions and posts.[/quote]i am my own person with my own strong opinions, i am not a follower but a leader! i have been the same consistent way for 6+ years and i am not here and never will be here to appease anybody. if some posters choose to pat me on the back and agree with me so be it, i don't control what other posters write, i do and say what i feel and do not worry about hurting any feelings or any of the repercussions that may follow, some feel that i am rough around the edges for being hard on some posters but i call them like i see them. i'm not a crybaby or somebody looking for or afraid of losing that ole high and mighty coveted "respect" on here. it's an internet forum for christs sake.

i can tell you 100% that ronin was his very own person with some very strong opinions, we have been emailing back and forth. his writing style was completely unique and detailed. he is a many many a year monger and has traveled extensively in europe and asia he came in here with guns a blazing calling "bullshit" "calling a spade a spade" and callin out people and for that he was banned. does that make him a troll?

Ronin (or DeltaPilot or Playing the Game or Hioctanee) is most definitely a troll. The question is, are you a troll? Check out your posts 10144 and 10355.

[quote=chesrep001;1321224]ronin (or deltapilot or playing the game or hioctanee) is most definitely a troll. the question is, are you a troll? check out your posts 10144 and 10355.[/quote]no are you? i'm talking about ronin1, was definitely not a troll! as far as other ronin's i don't know how many there are/were and it's not my job to keep track of them.

have you even read all of ronin1's posts from the beginning? he had some very valid points mixed with some very strong statements and options. he called many posters out was not afraid to challenge them with not just bs bit with substance as well. i would not categorize him as a troll at all but maybe combative with strong opinions.

Only Colombian residents should be allowed to post!

A. G.

You are a troll. And I'm thinking your buddy Miami Heat is a troll too (assuming you are not one and the same).

So you are in CTG.

Instead of your trouble making posts maybe you could grace us with a trip report or two?

You can even include how many phony orgasimos you gave those playa chicas.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1320548]20Jul-21Aug Here it is:

Arrived at night and as always took the airport-Medellin bus to my hotel for siete mil quinientos 7, 500pesos.

Room costs 25, 000 pesitos per night.

I immediately go to the local bar / kiosk area and find me a sweet sardina. I make eye contact and smile, she smiles back. I call her over from the crowd and she comes still smiling. I tell her what I want and she agrees to my offered 20k. She resisted at first coming to my hotel and wanted to go to one of the cheap run down hotels where all the working girls and local men go to. Since my hotel is near, she accepted. What a body this girl has! Firm. Firm with small waist and perky small breast barely enough to fit in my mouth. I tried. LOL.

I told her I wanted her for TLN but she couldn't that night. So I offered her another 20 for a second pop and she did it, although I had to help the poor girl who never complained about the time. Too bad I never saw her again!

The next day I hit the new life CASA. I found a new cute and petit blanquita and this time I did pay the extra BBBJ 20k pesos I criticized others for in the past. I guess the damage has been done! But her service wasn't something to talk about! Another proof paying extra plata doesn't guarantee major servisios. That's why you won't see my azz in F-2. *

I hit my pharmacy in el centro for my C-vitamin and the magic of genotropin and of I go cruising the "Oriental" for girls from the communas. I found two stopped to buy some chickle and I ask to invite them for un refresco nearby. The one I really wanted to bang flat out turned me down, but her friend said yes and all three of us sat down. Now I sensed it was a bad sign when the one who said yes started to order food! I should've just said no. But I said to myself, let's just wait and see. After all the total bill was just 8k. But sure enough she asked for 100k per hour. I laughed and told her I only offer $70 so we parted.

Too bad because she too had a nice young body with a delicious hip to waist ratio. Something about these comunas girls that excites the heck out of my dick. Even the way they talk.

I go back to check other casas but nothing worthy. So I go back to my hotel area and I spot a shorty slightly bushy eyebrowed trigueña but had clothe that suggested nice perky and big tits. Same thing I take her to my room and she was just like I expected and her breasts were even fuller than her clothe insinuated. Found out she was a caleña. I fucked her so good that evening she came all over my happy friend that I forgot the waisted time with the two girls from el centro earlier. She had a clean and delicious body. Only thing I wished she had shaved her legs. But where it counted the most she was bare skin for my tongue. I repeated once with her and took her to see " el dictator" in premium plaza. *

The next day I decide to make it a casa day. So I copied most of the casas on a paper with the streets drown out and since I stay in el centro I just walk. The first one I hit is literally a block away from my hotel: CASA geisha. A big disappointment just like my last trip except the mamasan had a bad attitude and the girls were uglier. Too bad since its proximity, I can just make it a daily pilgrimage after my 3, 500 pesos breakfast! *Next CASA is again a block away: casa de fantasias. Picked the cutest girl I liked but a horrible performance. Even though I paid the extra 20k for BBBJ. Sory guys, I really can't recall neither the name nor the face. I've had better sessions since. But if I do go back I will get a name. Next I basically hit the three casae on cr 47 within a couple of blocks from each other. Nothing interesting, so I go to one of my favorites "Masajes de sexi" and I pick a tall Blanca with braces and black hair. She gave a great service and looked fantastic from the doggy dog position with her onion like nalgas. I am satisfied now.) I decided I needed to hit "camino real" and with no sexual pressure and tension I cruise the outside and inside of the mall for normal or semipro chicas. I finally find a trigueña sitting alone inside on a bench. I approach and ask "puedo sentar aqui" she looks up at me and smiles and nods her head up and down. I start telling her how great the weather is in Medellin and that it is one of the reason why I love Medallo. I never told her about the other reasons. Jajajaja Found out she was waiting on her manicure appointment time, *she worked for her father who owns a clothing company and that she really is a sociable and confident woman. We exchanged numbers and she went for her appointment and that's when I got to see her full body as she stood up. Nice! Her name is Gloria and her glory was revealed. *

(time out comment). What a sharp contrast to my adolescence days in a sexually conservative middle eastern country where finding a VHS porn tape in those depressive days was an achievement. Wow man. Just wow.

Anyhow, I go back to my mongering habits and don't even call Gloria. In fact I was trying unsuccessfully to again have the same hot GFE sex I had with Nancy from last trip. But Nancy quickly wake up from her own fantasy with me and realized I just wanted a girlfriend for the vacation. Damm it, really damn it. Just lost a great ASSet in Medallo. I hate that! That's when all of the sudden gloria calls and asks about my days since we met. I said everything was peachy. Bacano. Chevery.) Gloria keeps on talking when I realize she really wants to bang me but as a typical paisa she wants me to initiate something. Actually she just did. All I had to do is set up the plan: a cocktail in "Martin Martini" then to 33 and dance close together with a couple of more drinks and shots. *

(timeout comment) how on earth a club / bar on 33 has no tequila or aguardiente which was what Gloria wanted. No GUARO! *In Medallo. Wow man. Just wow.

Anyhow, By now there is no doubt Gloria is so feeling my 90% erection grinding against her inner thigh while Plan-B is blasting through the loudspeakers. We take a taxi to her home and she has a 12 yrs old. No time out comment. Let's just see what happens. We had a conversation previously about her not wanting a boyfriend. That she enjoys her life as a single mother. But now I am thinking there is a 12 yrs old really nice boy in the house and I want to bang his mommy. Mmmm. It was a bit uncomfortable but we did it. She didn't give it all out sighting her son was next door and that tomorrow she'll feel better if we do it in my hotel room. *And we did. It was fantastic. *

Gloria is 31 but even I didn't believe her and I am anal about doing only younger women. But man she got a body. Natural selection is in her side for sure. She told me she hasn't been with a man for three months. I didn't know what to say! I know she had multiple orgasms and she had to literally beg me to stop after she ran out of natural moister and the friction was unbearable to her. So I saved my load for the morning. We had chemistry and we were in synch with the kissing that it felt like we were one person. That was one of my memorable GFE in Medallo. *Of course it wasn't all free. I paid for the outings. Although I can say she wasn't after money because when she gets to my hotel in taxi she never waits for me to come down and pay. But of course I give her taxi money when she leaves. I naught her a pair of boots for the cabalgata and that was around $62. But she surprised me on my final day by sending me a men's bracelet gift with her taxi friend on the way to the airport. *

We had many crazy sex nights and by now I realize I need more variety. So I hit the casas again. And this time I went to the casa where they show the girls topless on weekend. Well, it wasn't weekend and I asked if it was possible to show topless. The guy agreed. Funny thing I picked the only girl who didn't come out topless and I struck gold. LOL she was a new girl as her innocent young *looks suggested too. * Great service except she has cracked front tooth if you read between the lines.

I met a local driver who was trying to sell me maryjane but I told him my only drug are women. To my surprise he offered to bring me one of his acquaintances the next day if I call. I explained I am not looking for pros or veterans. The next day he brought me a 22 yrs old big booty morena. She asked for 100 I explained to her this is not my first time in medallo and I only want short time. So she accepted my 50. *Good session, but won't repeat. Very commercial like attitude.

The next one he brought was his cousin and she was barely 18 and firm body all around. Much better looking than the first girl. One of the best sex I had. I can tell I was her first gringo. And most likely one of few sex experiences she ever had. I gave her 60. I regret not giving her more as for some reason, she always wanted to introduce me someone else. And who does she bring me again? The first morena I didn't like so I told them one can stay, and of course she says no she can't. Just like that. And the older fatter morena calls the shots. Now, I am mad cause it is obvious my sweet girl is being influenced by this hardened nasty attitude. I even offered her 100 for LT but no response. The next day she still want to hook me up with another friend. By this time I lose faith in her and in the driver as he makes up lies about his cousin being busy with other men and that he will will bring her in the next day. All lies. Too bad it would have been a great source for fresh girls.

He tried bringing me much lesser quality older girls with silicone implants. I reminded him of what I don't want. I guess he just over promised and under delivered. That's why he never returned my calls later. So not recommended PERIOD.

Ok, I am stateside now and real busy guys so lets wrap this up, shall we? I ended the day by having Gloria spend the night after both of us partied in her aunt's house. In the morning I made an excuse to separate so to shag someone else. I ended up shagging the first girl I did when I got to Medellin and just when I thought I lost her. LOL what a great ending. *

THE END.

BS.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the nice trip report.

Where did you stay in El Centro (Hotel)? Did you have wifi?

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(time out comment). What a sharp contrast to my adolescence days in a sexually conservative middle eastern country where finding a VHS porn tape in those depressive days was an achievement. Wow man. Just wow.[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time to report your experiences. I had to smile when I read your "time out comment." Not all that different than a conservative part of the USA. Before the days of video tape, the mother load for us boys was to find a Hustler or Playboy magazine.

It sounds like you had a memorable time. Again, thanks for sharing it with us.

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Hey guys,

This is my second time going to Medellin. 27 and spanish is actually my first language. I'm trying to figure out where to stay, I"m thinking something in el centro closer to the casas, what do you guys recommend? Or if anyone is going to be here at that time, I'd be willing to share an apartment rental or even rent a room.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1320432]Several weeks ago, there was a discussion of Geraldine, her estrangement from her Yankee, and the more relevant issue of whether, in my opinion, the most enduring sex worker in Medellin, still had something to offer the monger. No doubt, Geraldine is no longer fresh. She says she is 24, but from what I've read, she's been a sex worker since she was 14. Some first met her when she was a street worker. Here are some very recent photos. I still say, show this girl a little good energy, and she will leave you weak.

Oh, she told me the story with her former Yankee fiancee. No need to stroke the drama comments, but she did opine that he is a "motherfu*ker." Life goes on.[/QUOTE]Thank You Thank You Thank You, LT the pics of Gearaldine are awesome, I freaking want her! Thanks for the current intel on that babe. I've got some good plans for Gearaldine. Cheers Brah!

And please (the) ignorant ones, leave it alone.

Geraldine {Demi Moore} who was nicknamed that by Ricker in her early days, is so popular because of her personality, not her looks, not that her looks are bad or anything, I was introduced to her she was so nice and willing that I thought she was desperate, but this girl that was born so poor was there just to make you feel better. When you are with her, even just having a drink with her, you allways walk away happier. Theres a lady that does massages too named Olge I believe that is really nice also. I try to get with women who have an upbeat personality now days pro or not, I was with too may negative attitudes in the USA Good vibes good fun and we have the power of South America. Stay kool everyone.

Olga and Geraldine are both quality people whom I like. That being said, Geraldine is getting a bit large, not huge but not the flaca she once was. I've done Miss G once about 2 years ago and have flirted and partied with her many times since. (coincidentally, last night) I've had Olga give me a massage (massage only) as I cannot for the life of me get past that face. It's too bad as people have told me that Olga gives the best head in South America. Also all holes are available if that floats your boat. Do I sometimes say crude things about the girls? Of course. Do they sometimes say crude things about us gringos? Jajajaja. You're delusional if you think they don't.

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Reef.

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1322078]Geraldine {Demi Moore} who was nicknamed that by Ricker in her early days, is so popular because of her personality, not her looks, not that her looks are bad or anything, I was introduced to her she was so nice and willing that I thought she was desperate, but this girl that was born so poor was there just to make you feel better. When you are with her, even just having a drink with her, you allways walk away happier. Theres a lady that does massages too named Olge I believe that is really nice also. I try to get with women who have an upbeat personality now days pro or not, I was with too may negative attitudes in the USA Good vibes good fun and we have the power of South America. Stay kool everyone.[/QUOTE][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely antagonistic[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You![/i][/blue]

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1322143]I sometimes wish I could readily settle for fat, old ugly women. It would save me the trouble of coming to Medellin as there are plenty in the US that I could be banging. But if you're okay with fucking them, then man-up as it goes with the territory that guys like me may snicker a bit when we see you try and sneak them out in the morning.

Reef.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of an incident in Santo Domingo. Having dinner with 2 other gringos I had met, over at the bar we spotted an obvious working girl.

One of the guys I was with just went on and on about how old and fat and ugly she was, and truthfully, she was a fugly, and this one guy just wouldn't shut up about it.

As the evening progressed, us guys went our seperate ways to do our own thing.

In the morning, however, as I was leaving my hotel room for breakfast, coincidentally out of his room comes the ranting guy accompanied by the same exact fugly pro.

He looked at me, and me at him with his new gal, and he gave me the most surprised and embarrassed look.

Man that was funny!

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1322143]I've had Olga give me a massage (massage only) as I cannot for the life of me get past that face. It's too bad as people have told me that Olga gives the best head in South America. Also all holes are available if that floats your boat.

Reef.[/QUOTE]Is Olga still riding that motorcycle? Old girl is still hard as a rock, and her face hasn't gotten any better, so I understand. Several years ago I got into the habit of having Olga start my day by bringing up coffee, followed by an above average massage, topped of by her famous blow job. I recall once she ran out of lotion, and remarked that all she needed were her hands and her lips. Reef, I like her too. She was always in a good mood and spreading good energy with all those who retained her services. I'm curious, although she is not too easy on the eyes and yet has a good body, is she closer to 40 or 50? No spring Paisa, for sure.

Before I get to the business we are all here for, mongering, I just want to say what a shame some of us, notably senior members, continue on perpetuating negative energy on personal attacks, useless comments and what a particular prostitute is up to nowadays!

That being said, thank you for the positive feed back. And here is what I have to add in answering some of your questions:

- Pm me to get contact info of hotel. Yes it is in el centro and keep in mind the title of my report!

- Genotropine sells for around 153k pesos per cartridge of 16 or 36 units. Notice I said cartridge not ampule. The cartridge is meant to be used with a special pen that I don't care for. Just look up the photos and research it before you get into it. One caution is if you have / had cancer or family history then DO NOT TAKE ANY HGH INCLUDING GENOTROPIN!

I wish I can find HGH in ampules! Much easier to use!

- As far as the side notes, I am an American by choice and that was really just my own reflection on my life and how it has evolved. Thoes days growing up in the Mideast, I remember we were supposed to not stare at a woman's body and pretend as if we had no sexual urges. I remember some of the crazy religious clergy advising young men to fast if unable to mary to lessen their sexual desire. LOL FAST! That makes me horney. LOL I remember I used to secretly desire my neihbor's mom and I was like 7-9yrs. One day I'll tell you about my crazy first sexual experience and believe it or not but it was in where I grow up.

But in the mean time let's stick to the purpose of this site: MONGERING.

So, please be patient because I do have a lot of photos to put out here from my trip. I am a full time student and my time is short. Any suggestions on where to post the photos and how to size them to fit for posting? I have them on my Apple laptop.

BTW, how does one become a "senior" member?

BS.

Last time I took Testasterone I got scared and stopped because it made me to aggressive, made me loose my temper easily. Hopefully I'll reach a balance here. I'll let you know if I survive without beating somebody up or vice-versa, he, he.

Frank Casio![/QUOTE]

Man, the last time I used the gels I ended up getting 2 women pregnant, and tended to have agression filled work outs at the gymn. So I researched it and found out that it's ok for younger guys to use but is off limits to anyone over 60 because of increased incidences of heart attacks, etc. Let me know how the genotropin works out for you.

[/QUOTE]Man, the last time I used the gels I ended up getting 2 women pregnant, and tended to have agression filled work outs at the gymn. So I researched it and found out that it's ok for younger guys to use but is off limits to anyone over 60 because of increased incidences of heart attacks, etc. Let me know how the genotropin works out for you.[/QUOTE]Hi guy, you might be right, but why is testasterone therapy being recommended for older people by so many doctors here and announced all over? I think even Viagara can cause heart attacks, but I think it depends on the medical history of each individual. I'ts probably the same with Testasterone. I do remember loosing belly fat when I took it, but not the sexual boost that I was hoping for. I did get a girl pregnant last December, but that's because I take a lot of vitamins, like, Zink, DHEA, L-Lysine, B-12 Complex, etc.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1322254]- Genotropine sells for around 153k pesos per cartridge of 16 or 36 units. Notice I said cartridge not ampule. The cartridge is meant to be used with a special pen that I don't care for. Just look up the photos and research it before you get into it. One caution is if you have / had cancer or family history then DO NOT TAKE ANY HGH INCLUDING GENOTROPIN!

IBS.[/QUOTE]Hi guy, I believe 2-6 IU a day it's what's reccommended of Genotropine. Can you break down for me the 16 or 36 units per cartridge in relation to the daily dose of 2-6 IU. In other words, how many daily dosis does the 156k pesos cover, how many IU per day?

Aussie Greg helps children with backpacks, school supplies and toys in Choco district of Colombia. Here are some photos that represent the preparation of the stuff for the kids. It would be easy to give these things to some kids in Medellin, but A. G. Said the kids that get this stuff literally have nothing. It's not an easy job. First, the effort is not only time intensive, but cost plata. The trip to deliver these backpacks is by truck, then by boat, and is completed by a 5 or 6 hour mule ride.

Some that visit the Mansion make nominal contributions, and A. G. Has not organized a method for making contributions to this effort, but I assume that Alexa could arrange that if anyone wants to contact her.

Finally, I respectfully disagree that this thread is only about "mongering" in the narrow sense. It's about Medellin, its women and our ability to make our experiences there better for the visitor and the visited. And, that goes for remembrances of a particular sex worker that has provided pleasure to many.

Look at these photos. You'll feel the good energy, besides look at the tits on the helper.

Only Good Energy.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1322254]BTW, how does one become a "senior" member?

BS.[/QUOTE]SENIOR MEMBER after 6 months being a regular member.

I meant to ask you how it went for you the night I saw you in Mayo.

Cheers.

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Just to clear things up:

MYTH: Taking testosterone increases anger. I. E."roid rage". Simply NOT true. There are no studies to back this claim up. More than likely you have always had an anger problem.

MYTH: Testosterone causes heart attacks and should not be taken by men over 60. Again NOT true, in fact testosterone therapy in older men is good for the heart and vascular system. ALL men over 60 should be taking testosterone.

Regarding HGH, the normal I. You. Injection rate for anti-aging purposes is 2-3 units per day. 6 units is excessive and is usually what body builders use when training for a competition. Also, HGH therapy is a long term proposition. One cannot see any results using 2. 3 units per day until about 6 months after therapy begins. Using it short term, while on vacation in Colombia does no good and is a waste of money.

Also, testosterone patches aren't as effective as injections. If one is injecting testosterone, about 1 cc per week in effective for men with low test.

Of course, anyone using these drugs for anti-aging or body building should do so under a qualified doctors care, such as an anti-aging doctor or a hormone replacement specialist. It's important that blood tests be performed every 6 months to monitor levels and diagnose any problems.

This one is a test. I hope it makes it.

I'll be going to MDE next week. Can anyone name and locate a pharmacy that will sell and administer T shots?

[QUOTE=Iguana Six;1322804]I'll be going to MDE next week. Can anyone name and locate a pharmacy that will sell and administer T shots?[/QUOTE]Hi guy,

I use one in Envigado, it's too complicated to explain how to get there, but I'll be in Medellin myself next week and might be able to take you and tell you the brand I use. You can find Teste. In just about any pharmacy, but some will administer it to you and others will ask for a Dr. 's prescription. So you will have to shop around. It's very cheap, around $6-7US for 250 IU. I told one of my older guests about it and he started using them every time he visits and is very happy. I'm going to start using again as I am more calmed down now. Keep in touch, message me and I'll give you more info as soon as I arrive in Medellin in a couple days.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1322620]This one is a test. I hope it makes it.[/QUOTE]It made it, he, he, let's see some more!

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo; 1322576]Just to clear things up:

MYTH: Taking testosterone increases anger. I. E."roid rage". Simply NOT true. There are no studies to back this claim up. More than likely you have always had an anger problem.

MYTH: Testosterone causes heart attacks and should not be taken by men over 60. Again NOT true, in fact testosterone therapy in older men is good for the heart and vascular system. ALL men over 60 should be taking testosterone.

Regarding HGH, the normal I. You. Injection rate for anti-aging purposes is 2-3 units per day. 6 units is excessive and is usually what body builders use when training for a competition. Also, HGH therapy is a long term proposition. One cannot see any results using 2. 3 units per day until about 6 months after therapy begins. Using it short term, while on vacation in Colombia does no good and is a waste of money.

Also, testosterone patches aren't as effective as injections. If one is injecting testosterone, about 1 cc per week in effective for men with low test.

Of course, anyone using these drugs for anti-aging or body building should do so under a qualified doctors care, such as an anti-aging doctor or a hormone replacement specialist. It's important that blood tests be performed every 6 months to monitor levels and diagnose any problems.[/QUOTE]Very imformative Nino, thank you. I've read of cycles of HGH of about a month. I'll be there 2 months and will be using it for the whole time if not too expensive. I've also read that small dosis don't work too well and most people get discourage because of the high price tag and little results at small dosages. As for Teste. What I've used weelky is 200 cc and it has a 6 day life, I'm confused when you say 1cc, unless the measuring in Colombia is different.

Very imformative Nino, thank you. I've read of cycles of HGH of about a month. I'll be there 2 months and will be using it for the whole time if not too expensive. I've also read that small dosis don't work too well and most people get discourage because of the high price tag and little results at small dosages. As for Teste. What I've used weekly is 200 cc and it has a 6 day life, I'm confused when you say 1cc, unless the measuring in Colombia is different.

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo; 1322576]Just to clear things up:

MYTH: Taking testosterone increases anger. I. E."roid rage". Simply NOT true. There are no studies to back this claim up. More than likely you have always had an anger problem.

MYTH: Testosterone causes heart attacks and should not be taken by men over 60. Again NOT true, in fact testosterone therapy in older men is good for the heart and vascular system. ALL men over 60 should be taking testosterone.

Regarding HGH, the normal I. You. Injection rate for anti-aging purposes is 2-3 units per day. 6 units is excessive and is usually what body builders use when training for a competition. Also, HGH therapy is a long term proposition. One cannot see any results using 2. 3 units per day until about 6 months after therapy begins. Using it short term, while on vacation in Colombia does no good and is a waste of money.

Also, testosterone patches aren't as effective as injections. If one is injecting testosterone, about 1 cc per week in effective for men with low test.

Of course, anyone using these drugs for anti-aging or body building should do so under a qualified doctors care, such as an anti-aging doctor or a hormone replacement specialist. It's important that blood tests be performed every 6 months to monitor levels and diagnose any problems.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo;1322576]Regarding HGH, the normal I. You. Injection rate for anti-aging purposes is 2-3 units per day. 6 units is excessive and is usually what body builders use when training for a competition.[/QUOTE]Not sure what is going on with this forum, but somehow the sentence above turned into a snafu.

Of course it should read "the normal "iu" injection rate"

Sorry.

Okay that test one was way over the limit for. Jpg files but it made it. I guess admin forgot to update the file attachment new size limits.

Ezyngo, I go to the mayo a lot and can't recall that night but I get a good experiences there. As far as the senior thing, your answer was troubling that it is automatic but not surprising. I think I want to stay regular member, at least I can have an excuse. LOL

One of the nicest tits I enjoyed. She is the calena who told me had a girlfriend. I believe she just wanted some financial help at the time as I didn't see her again. A little too hairy for my taste but her curves made the a big difference.

This is a repeat from previous trips. Nice body and great attitude. Real sweet girl, pero si tira sakol en esos dias.

A shot of the calena with me at crepes in premium plaza.

And a shot of gloria. What a nice body for a 31yrs old and those are unenhanced buttocks. I was really a skeptic, especially since I know she has a rich dad.

More of gloria's ass. The next is a repeat but won't recommend this time was a total disappointment. Maybe having two kids have lowered her libido and energy or something. Her tits definitely took a beating from child birth since my previous trips. A gem who didn't shine long enough.

The two girls from the taxi guy.

More of my best experience chica and a shot of a girl I did in ejecutivo. Great service. Got rock hard body and high energy. Didn't get tired or complain and I did her right after she did her pole dancing. Told her to go shower and then to call me to the room when she is done and she did. There was a great ass black girl on another day but she wanted 70. I declined as I didn't want word spreading out among the chicas. But she had a fenomenal body. Maracaibo was a big disappointment on many occasions this trip I stopped going there.

Same chick from ejecutivo and another from the mayo.

More of the two from before. And the one in blue lighting is from NL.

This one is a new girl in the topless casa. What a great firm body she has. Great service. Too bad she was taken under the wings of alejandra a well experienced morena / india who was giving her bad advice. I tried to arrange for a domicilio but when she calls me I can hear alejandra on the background. I never get it! This has always mad me angry. It's as though these bitter bitches brain wash these newbies into believing we are bad people and should milk us for the most money for the least service.

Oh. The end.

Be safe. Medellin is getting hotter these days. More crime and more murders. I think Santos is too weak. I wish Uribe can be reelected.

Looks like you just posted one.

In the future, you might want to post them in the photo gallery.

I just finally posted some from '09.

In addition to Jackson suggestions, you might want to try Faststone Image viewer.

I was able to resize. Watermark & blur out faces with it.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1322254]Any suggestions on where to post the photos and how to size them to fit for posting? I have them on my Apple laptop.

BS.[/QUOTE]

Pay attention to the bottom paragraph Matt P something I already told you and you can't find in your library studies.

This isn't the complete page too fricking big, sorry.

[url]http://www.expat-chronicles.com/2012/09/noah-goldberg-medellin-colombia-sex-tourism/[/url]

48-year-old US citizen Noah Goldberg was shot dead in May 2012, the second American killed in Medellin that year. Medellin is prone to gang violence, but I never felt unsafe during my three trips totaling over 6 weeks. When I read about gringos getting killed, I always wonder how it went down. Botched robbery? Drunken argument?

And I always conclude that Medellin may not be as safe as it feels. However, there's more to the Goldberg story than was reported. The newspapers mentioned that Goldberg ran a travel agency, but none reported that it catered to sex tourism. I only learned recently from an offhand reader email. I started researching the case and wound up going down the rabbit hole. Goldberg's death was an international news story, and the public largely concluded that his murder was random (myself included). The city of Medellin and greater Colombia undeservedly took the blame. However, random violence didn't kill Noah Goldberg.

Like Goldberg, I also did brothel tours. But there were huge differences between how Goldberg and I managed our businesses – mainly in what I call 'Push vs. Pull' marketing. The fact that I didn't know who Goldberg was when he was murdered goes to show how much I wasn't plugged into the sex tourism community. I did little to promote my tours. My attitude was, 'I'll throw a site up. If someone bites, great. ' I threw a site up, linked to it from my blog, and that was it. I only found out about the sex tourism forums when clients told me. A few had mentioned me. Still, I never joined or pursued them. A gringo buddy used to pressure me to print business cards and promote in the tourist areas, but I never did. I never worked out deals with hotels. A few brothels offered commission, which I took. But my entire marketing efforts included nothing more than the website. At the first sign of stress, I closed shop.

Goldberg, on the other hand, pushed his tours. He was well known on sex tourism forums, **************. Com (CRT) and InternationalSexGuide. Info (ISG). He offered discounts for CRT members – a paid membership focusing on Costa Rica. He had a reputation among the *****mongers ('mongers') as a shameless self-promoter. He worked out deals with hotels to create sex tourism travel packages. He got cuts from every angle. He was building and promoting a full-time sex tourism business with multiple revenue streams. He was immersed in the industry.

Before setting up shop in Medellin, Goldberg briefly worked in Latin America's sex tourism capital, San Jose, Costa Rica. He quickly made many enemies and moved to Colombia. Much of this article uses less-than-concrete sources. However, this much has been established as fact:

Noah Goldberg ran Medellin Paisa Tours, a travel agency catering to sex tourism. He made enemies in Costa Rica and Colombia.

He was killed while with a client.

In addition to Medellin Paisa Tours, Goldberg had begun loaning money in Medellin.

He was killed by two gunmen who were drinking beer at an adjacent table. There were no words beforehand, no argument. There was no robbery. They stood up, produced pistols, and shot him twice – once in the head, once in the shoulder.

That's been established. The rest of this article is based on anonymous witnesses, forum posts, etc.

Here's a detailed testimonial of Goldberg's services:

Medellin Paisa Tour Update:

After coming back from Santa Fe, we decided to extend our trip and see more of Medellin. There was a last-minute cancellation of a reservation in this penthouse in Castropol, Poblado. And Medellin Paisa hooked us up with a great deal. So we decided to stay for 3 more days, and our friend from Miami flew in and we stayed in this 5-br penthouse overlooking the city. Incredible place, great deal, with views of the whole city. Party palace.

Got set up with a private chef. Amazing Italian meal. We then sat in the group jacuzzi.

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The more I saw there, the more I smiled. Friends and I were hooked up with amazing women. No bs, no clock-watchers, and not one time did any of them pick up their cell phones. Original deal was for 3 hours with them, and they stayed and partied with us all night. The girls left in the morning and thanked us for a good time.

To add icing to the cake, for our final night, Medellin Paisa kept talking about our 'final surprise'. We all took naps in the afternoon and then went out for a nice seafood dinner somewhere off 'La Setenta'. I had a delicious red snapper, my friends were all happy. When we asked what the surprise was, he kept smiling his devilish smile. At this point, it was just Medellin Paisa's crew and our crew, which was all guys. We kept wondering when we were going to see some women.

When the surprise was finally unveiled, we were all pleasantly surprised. We were taken to this discrete, and very private after hours club.

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The place was somewhere close to Estadio off one of the circles. We went up to the gate, and were welcomed in and escorted to the second floor, where there was a bar, a dance floor with a pole, and many lounge rooms. In the far back, is an outdoor terrace, where people were smoking cigarettes and talking. The management and staff clearly knew Medellin Paisa very well.

Everyone came up and gave him a kiss or shook his hand. We were given a bottle of aguardiente on the house, and escorted to a private lounge with couches and tables. It was a very relaxed atmosphere. We sat down, and immediately were greeted by 6 beautiful paisas who asked us if there was anything we needed. I ordered a beer for myself and friends, and was pleasantly surprised it only cost 3000 pesos / beer.

We watched some girls dance, the owner, a beautiful blonde paisa, came over and sat down to talk with us. We spent a couple hours just chatting and drinking with the women. No one ever asked us for anything. No pressure at all.

At 2:30 in the morning, I heard the doorbell ring, saw 4 taxi's down on the street with women pouring out of them. About 15-20 women walked through the door, and we had the choice of women in the place. I chose a tall, black haired beauty from Baranquilla. Rocked my world, and only for 70, 000 pesos. She eventually came home with me.

I was surprised to see the sun rising. Had no idea how much time had passed.

Lucky we still made our flight at 2 pm. The last night was definitely one of the most interesting nights of my life, still with a smile on my face as I type this.

See two more testimonials.

Clients could book an entire tour on the Medellin Paisa Tours website. His prices reflected up to a 50% markup on hotel rooms. He charged $65 USD taxi from the airport (which should never be more than 65, 000 pesos). This is how Goldberg irked many in the mongers community, which organized to share information and benefit from collective knowledge. One monger published this sarcastic post, summing up the mongers' criticisms of Goldberg:

I just spent a week in Medellin and I booked my trip thru Medellin Paisa. He had a car waiting for me at the airport for $65. Its okay that the actual rate is about $50, since I was informed that you could get kidnapped if you just grab any taxi.

The Lincoln Hotel was very good. They were kind to tell me that we Americans can not book direct and get the $60 rates because of some law there so we must book thru a third party and pay about 40% more.

Medellin Paisa introduced me to a few very nice ladies. I thought the $150 a night rate was high but they said it was fair. It was strange that no Colombian women give blowjobs, They all hate it.

I don not understand why I need to send them Western Union but, they are poor, so what the Hell.

Everyday I was informed of the multiple muggings all around town and the many hotel break ins.

I am glad I have a friend for life now. This was the best $5, 000 vacation that I ever had.

When these criticisms were leveled, Goldberg often mocked and insulted the members. Here's a senior monger admonishing him:

CRT members can be tough and demanding with their service providers. Fortunately, the successful CRT sponsors live and breath customer service, have very thick skin and offer decent value for their goods or services. You can learn alot from the gulch business owners who address issues and complaints on here. They listen to the feedback from the guys on here and make adjustments accordingly without feeling hurt and throwing insults at potential customers. If a provider offers a decent product, the positive posts you read on here are just the tip of the iceberg. The meaningful, market-capturing kudos are spread via word of mouth & private conversations. Maybe, it's time to step back and re-evaluate if your business model is not working as planned. Your business should give your customers the product they want at a price that is 'fair and reasonable'. Good luck.

Goldberg was known to emphasize the danger in Colombia and drop scopolamine warnings. This is not uncommon among legit tour guides I know in Colombia. I've never seen anyone do it to the extent he did, but some gringo tour guides exaggerate the danger to justify taking personalized tours. And scopolamine should be on the radar of gringos visiting Colombia, especially if they're going to be partying with prostitutes.

Here are selections showing Goldberg's emphasis on the security element in his services:

There are many places in Medellin that are not for the faint-of-heart. The trick is to be discrete! Todo es Muy Discreto en Medallo.

For example, despite what he says, this Club is not for a guy like Bbrocs who speaks absolutely no Spanish & must rely on his right-hand-man to act as translator & protector. If you offend the wrong person you may be on your last trip to Medallo!

But the members on this Board seemed to express a true interest in visiting this type of Club (there are many more of these types of underground clubs in Medallo). It can be a lot of fun if you have the street smarts & know how to talk the talk!

I have brought many friends to this Club & they have had a fantastic time! Take a look at the Trip Report by Kansas Cowboy on the first page in this ever-expanding thread. He & his crew had an amazing evening!

Medellin can be a dangerous place but the owner of this Club is a wonderful woman (Her name is Kate La Gata) who has expressed an interest in entertaining foreigners. I always feel more than welcome in her Casa.

Just remember that the Narcos like to share their chicas. If a fellow guest expresses an interest in your chica de noche I would suggest that you offer to share. In return they will share their chicas with you!

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I don't just provide translator services. I have a five man crew of guides and we watch the back of our clients (I know the owners & security at the Club as well).

But at the same time I would never bring a loud-mouth client to this Club (Wink-Wink). It would only be a headache for everyone involved!

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The point I was trying to make regarding Bbrocs is that, whether you speak Spanish or not, if you don't know 'PEOPLE'down here in Medallo you put yourself at some risk.

I don't have a corner on this market (knowing People) but I take my guide responsibilities seriously & would never put a client / friend at risk. If a client wants to take a Walk on the Wildside an important part of our job is to make sure that they can focus on enjoying themselves & not have to worry about anything. If a situation arises where it becomes unsafe for our clients, myself & my crew of guides will firmly suggest that it is time to move on. Our job is to anticipate any type of trouble before it even happens. Being a good Brujo is part of what we are all about!

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Once again, I would strongly advise that you only visit this type of Casa if you are capable of reading the eyes of people (I. E you have street-smarts). Just relying on a translator can get you in a lot of trouble. Many Colombians would never consider frequenting this type of Casa.

As they say down here in PaisaLandia.

Usted tiene que leer los ojos de la gente!

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Let's wait to see & hear from the CRT Membership what kind of experiences they have at the Club. If there is a positive response from both the CRT Membership as well as the owner / staff of the Club I will be happy to include the addresses of other locations. I am being a little bit cautious because I am not completely confident that CRT members can go to a place like this without a proper escort. Perhaps, Jimmy will volunteer to be our test case! If he survives the experience it will prove that almost anyone can go to this type of Club!

To answer your question: The Club is both eat-in & take-out. There is no bar fine involved! But the Club has certain chicas that are on staff & these chicas are not allowed to leave with a client. But at the same time many chicas just show up to party (usually after 2 am) & are free to leave with a potential client, or rent one of the rooms for a private party. Generally the rates for a chica and room are only $70, 000. Pesos for an hour but I don't want to commit to this price quote because it can depend on the chica & the type of customer (I. E. YMMV). Also please remember that many of these chicas have never met / nor been with a gringo before. They are Narco Party Girls but you need to be very careful with them if you decide to leave with one of them. I would suggest that for first encounters that you party in the club & rent one of the rooms.

One more bit of advice:

This is not the kind of Casa where you just pop-in to take a look at the menu like other Casas in El Centro! The etiquette is that you come in. They show you to a lounge area. You buy a drink (Only $4, 000 pesos for a beer) & other optional party favors. And then you invite the chicas in to your lounge area to party with you. If you want to just pop-in for 5 minutes I seriously doubt that they will ever let you back in through the front door ever again. They also might suspect you of being a DEA agent or some other type of police officer! LOL!

Just remember that this is an underground type of Club. There are rules that must be followed, and these rules are not written down!

That is why I strongly suggest that if you frequent a club like this that you go with someone who has experience dealing with this form of Paisa Entertainment. It is highly unlikely that you will see other Gringos in this type of Club!

He was eventually banned from **************, so he migrated to InternationalSexGuide. From ISG, here's Goldberg attacking another brothel tour guide:

Thank God I am not Colombia Jake. Most of his clients seem to get Drugged these days if the rumors are true. Unlike Jake I am fluent in English, Spanish, French & Hebrew!

I am not on steroids, just living the dream in PaisaLandia! I know Medallo in a way that most Gringos will never know the City of Eternal Spring.

Don't be jealous, because I love to share my knowledge. LOL! Maybe I will throw you a bone just like I have done for TweedleD & Legal Tender. Assuming you will be nice & sweet to me! LOL!

If I come across as if I am on steroids it is only because I provide a very special VIP Concierge service to my clients and that is why I am almost completely booked for the next 5 months.

Colombia Jake is scrounging for clients at the Poblado Metro station. LOL! While I deal in geishas and offer tours of the surrounding pueblos & comunas.

I know Jake & I would never consider him a friend but he aint a bad guy! No! Really!

Before the next two posts, an anecdote about this industry. I once met an American in Bogota on business who had gone to an upscale northern *****house. His tab was well over $1, 000 USD, and he and his buddies were still partying when he was summoned by the manager. My acquaintance brought his translator and sat with the manager's entourage. After the manager spoke, the translator told my acquaintance to thank the manager for letting him drink with him. The translator helped my acquaintance in saying the words to thank the manager for letting him drink at his brothel.

That brothel is most likely a money-laundering operation for narcos. Any manager who wanted to run a legal, profitable brothel would be thanking and kissing the ass of a customer who drops over a grand in one night. However, this brothel doesn't need to be a profit center. In fact, it may be able to launder more cocaine profit if it's not. This money-laundering brothel manager . Probably not a powerful position within his organization – felt he was being shown up by the gringo with deep pockets, and decided to throw his weight around.

The point of this story is to illustrate who's running many of the legal brothels – narcos. They don't only run brothels, they launder money in a variety of industries: hotels, cell phones, anything. But narco money-laundering operations are especially popular in the sex industry. And they don't announce to clients and tour guides that they're money-hemorrhaging fronts for other operations. Keep that in mind when reading these next passages.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1322872]A shot of the calena with me at crepes in premium plaza.[/QUOTE]She looks very cute in this casual photo (photo 3 from the left). Do you have any more intimate photos of this chica that you can share? How much was her fee? PM me if you could give me details on how I can get in touch with her. I am in Medellin until Sunday. Many thanks.

[QUOTE=Frank Casio;1322817]Very imformative Nino, thank you. I've read of cycles of HGH of about a month. I'll be there 2 months and will be using it for the whole time if not too expensive. I've also read that small dosis don't work too well and most people get discourage because of the high price tag and little results at small dosages. As for Teste. What I've used weekly is 200 cc and it has a 6 day life, I'm confused when you say 1cc, unless the measuring in Colombia is different.[/QUOTE]You're welcome Frank!

To clear things up on the testosterone. Remember 1 cc is the same as one ml. If you have testosterone 200 mg / ml or 200 mg / cc, it's basically the strength of the testosterone. In your case there are 200 mg of test per ml of liquid. The 1 cc or 1 ml that I was referring to was the injection doseage, or in my case I fill the syringe to 1 cc or 1 ml on the syringe for injection. I normally use a test that is 250 mg / ml.

Regarding your HgH, if you want to see quick positive effects in a 2 month time frame, you need to be injecting 4 or 5 iu's daily or minimum 5 days a week. This is what a competitive body builder would take before a competition, or a pro athlete to recover from an injury. And yes, it's expensive, but again very beneficial. Every man 45 or older should seriously consider HGH AND testosterone replacement therapy.

I was skeptical about the idea that the casas are run by the "FARC," if not drug cartels. You know Medellin better than I do anyway. Good article. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1323115]Pay attention to the bottom paragraph Matt P something I already told you and you can't find in your library studies.[/QUOTE]

Hi Nino,

Thanks again for the info. But if I take the 4-5 IU, would I have to work out like a body builder? And what's the heads up on any sexual positive side effects, potency, libido, etc. And do you no prices in Medellin for a daily 4-5 IU dose?

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo; 1323133]You're welcome Frank!

To clear things up on the testosterone. Remember 1 cc is the same as one ml. If you have testosterone 200 mg / ml or 200 mg / cc, it's basically the strength of the testosterone. In your case there are 200 mg of test per ml of liquid. The 1 cc or 1 ml that I was referring to was the injection doseage, or in my case I fill the syringe to 1 cc or 1 ml on the syringe for injection. I normally use a test that is 250 mg / ml.

Regarding your HgH, if you want to see quick positive effects in a 2 month time frame, you need to be injecting 4 or 5 iu's daily or minimum 5 days a week. This is what a competitive body builder would take before a competition, or a pro athlete to recover from an injury. And yes, it's expensive, but again very beneficial. Every man 45 or older should seriously consider HGH AND testosterone replacement therapy.[/QUOTE]

For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would want to remember a departed soul with such critical and unflattering remembrances. Noah, was all of that which has been written about him. I considered Noah a friend, but because of his situation near the end of his life, he was not capable of being a friend to anyone. Unfortunately, his addiction to cocaine changed his personality, became his only interest in life, and I'm sure had something to do with his death. He has been dead over three months now, so what is the purpose in bringing up the unpleasant truth of this tormented individual? I just don't "get it."

Ordinarily, what one writes about another says more about the author than the subject, but what Hillbilly has written is sadly true. I prefer to remember the time that I remember Noah when he was a kind and compassionate human being. I recall him going to Exito and spending a chunk of cash to buy food for families in one of the poorest bario. The drug induced aggression and paranoia certainly brought out the worst in him. Let him rest in peace.

Noah was not easy to always like, and certainly a challenge to those who choose to love him. Monica, his long time novia, post photographs of him regularly, always lamenting her loss. What I've learned is that there was one gringo whose Paisa woman loved him and continues to morn his loss. As so it goes.

The truth is not always pleasant, and Hillbilly has written it. But that detour is of no benefit that I can see. Man, that was a bummer, we need only good energy. We all see enough shit to last us a lifetime.

Man I been looking for info on this.

Hey niño where can I find some good "JUICE" in Medellin.

& is shipping this stuff thru postal back to the States a guarantee OK.

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo; 1323133]You're welcome Frank!

To clear things up on the testosterone. Remember 1 cc is the same as one ml. If you have testosterone 200 mg / ml or 200 mg / cc, it's basically the strength of the testosterone. In your case there are 200 mg of test per ml of liquid. The 1 cc or 1 ml that I was referring to was the injection doseage, or in my case I fill the syringe to 1 cc or 1 ml on the syringe for injection. I normally use a test that is 250 mg / ml.

Regarding your HgH, if you want to see quick positive effects in a 2 month time frame, you need to be injecting 4 or 5 iu's daily or minimum 5 days a week. This is what a competitive body builder would take before a competition, or a pro athlete to recover from an injury. And yes, it's expensive, but again very beneficial. Every man 45 or older should seriously consider HGH AND testosterone replacement therapy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1323232]He has been dead over three months now, so what is the purpose in bringing up the unpleasant truth of this tormented individual? I just don't "get it."[/QUOTE]Over the years, we have seen quite a few 'ruminant' posters on this Medellin thread. There is no end in sight, near or far. But at any rate,

Cheers.

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[QUOTE=Reefski; 1323252]I would have imagined with your beliefs in eastern religions and karma you'd be okay with the concept of reaping what you sow.

I thought Hillbilly's post offered an interesting insight into MP's downward spiral and why so many people saw a different side of him. Seemed to depend on how many lines he had snorted that day.

Reef. OGE![/QUOTE]Reef, we agree on many things. No doubt with his choices, Noah's end was predictable.

Soo I been to DR.

Jamaica & other places.

Is the Mansion just as Blackbeards in DR.

Would I do fine with my broken Spanish?

Is it as easy hunting on the streets & just walking into a casa in el centro?

I will be in Columbia for last 2 weeks of October. Any company would be great. Beer on me. LOL.

I have mongered in Costa rica and mexico before but it would be my first time in Columbia.

It will be pleasant experience if I have some company.

Thanks.

Matt has arrived and through half his stay everything has been great! Security guards do help plus the fact that I set him up with a sweetheart and he even took her to Santa Marta for a few days. Photo's. Returns to Medellin tomorrow and we'll see if the last 6 days of his stay here go without a hitch? I will let you know!

Clean trip with nothing but good memories! Matt flew out today back to the polar bears and eskimos! Says he will return around the 1st of Oct for another adventure. Going to stay with me for the first few days and takehis time finding an apartment that fits his criteria exactly before he moves out. I think its a great idea rather than taking a chance with the pictures and info over the internet which often times turns out to be like an over priced hooker. You come away feeling ripped off!

NSD: I suggest you post your trip dates in the Travel Announcements thread so other mongers that want to hang can get in touch.

Infamous: Any level of Spanish would be better than none. Hand gestures can usually help get your point across. I have never been to Blackbeards so can't compare the Casablanca properties to it. If you can find availability it is always a good idea to spend a few days there because it is structured to help a first time traveler to Medellin. I am not sure if your comment about hunting in the streets means streetwalkers. There are several SW areas listed in the Medellin Lists section. Most of them I would not go after dark. YMMV. As for casas, once you have the list of addresses and the google map it is the easiest way to get FS in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1323330]

Is the Mansion just as Blackbeards in DR.

Fuck no!
A. G.

[QUOTE=Colombia Jake; 1323665]Matt has arrived and through half his stay everything has been great! Security guards do help plus the fact that I set him up with a sweetheart and he even took her to Santa Marta for a few days. Photo's. Returns to Medellin tomorrow and we'll see if the last 6 days of his stay here go without a hitch? I will let you know!

Clean trip with nothing but good memories! Matt flew out today back to the polar bears and eskimos! Says he will return around the 1st of Oct for another adventure. Going to stay with me for the first few days and takehis time finding an apartment that fits his criteria exactly before he moves out. I think its a great idea rather than taking a chance with the pictures and info over the internet which often times turns out to be like an over priced hooker. You come away feeling ripped off![/QUOTE]I'm planning on Medellin in the next 2 weeks or so. I also want to go to Santa Marta. Can you post picture of the chica? You can also PM me and I'll send my e-mail. Thanks, Arjay

He is a troll.

[QUOTE=Arjay;1323970]I'm planning on Medellin in the next 2 weeks or so. I also want to go to Santa Marta. Can you post picture of the chica? You can also PM me and I'll send my e-mail. Thanks, Arjay[/QUOTE]

Guys I wil be in madellin last 2 weeks of October.

Please any company from ISG?

Beer on me. Ok I will go higher this time.

YOUR FIRST PUSSY CHARGES ON ME TOO. Common guys I need a company. Or else I can't go to Columbia. LOL

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1323973]He is a troll.[/QUOTE]Thanks Matt. Others have also posted negative vibes on him especially about his "night tours". I was just curious what the paisa looked liked that he claimed went to Santa Marta. Maybe see you in Medellin one day. Arjay

[QUOTE=Nsd1983; 1324001]Guys I wil be in madellin last 2 weeks of October.

Please any company from ISG?

Beer on me. Ok I will go higher this time.

YOUR FIRST PUSSY CHARGES ON ME TOO. Common guys I need a company. Or else I can't go to Columbia. LOL[/QUOTE]Stay at the Hotel Medellin Plaza, formerly the Mansion. You'll find fellow mongers, all of whom will know more than you, and most will be happy to introduce you to what they know. But, remember, Medellin is our secret.

Only good energy

[QUOTE=Nsd1983; 1324001]Guys I wil be in madellin last 2 weeks of October.

Please any company from ISG?

Beer on me. Ok I will go higher this time.

YOUR FIRST PUSSY CHARGES ON ME TOO. Common guys I need a company. Or else I can't go to Columbia. LOL[/QUOTE]I'll be in Medellin during October. You can PM me. Drinks Ok but, I have a novia. Arjay

[QUOTE=Nsd1983;1324001]YOUR FIRST PUSSY CHARGES ON ME TOO.[/QUOTE]It can be very expensive. I'd be the first one to take up on that offer if you do not back out. At any rate,

Cheers.

sex isn't for the squeamish, sex is a exchange of body fluids, saliva, breath and smells, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], semen, shit, sweat, microbes, bacteria.

a. g.

[quote=aussie greg; 1324226]sex isn't for the squeamish, sex is a exchange of body fluids, saliva, breath and smells, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], semen, shit, sweat, microbes, bacteria.

a. g.[/quote]not sure where you're going with this post ag but i bet you exchange all of those goodies in one session! jejejejejejeje lol

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1324280]Not sure where you're going with this post AG but I bet you exchange all of those goodies in one session! Jejejejejejeje LOL[/QUOTE]

Hey MHL, I enjoy sex even if it means I got to change the sheets more often mate.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1324330]Hey MHL, I enjoy sex even if it means I got to change the sheets more often mate.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Jejejejejeje, funny, you're too much mate LOL. Cheers!

[QUOTE=Almotu; 1323813]NSD: I suggest you post your trip dates in the Travel Announcements thread so other mongers that want to hang can get in touch.

Infamous: Any level of Spanish would be better than none. Hand gestures can usually help get your point across. I have never been to Blackbeards so can't compare the Casablanca properties to it. If you can find availability it is always a good idea to spend a few days there because it is structured to help a first time traveler to Medellin. I am not sure if your comment about hunting in the streets means streetwalkers. There are several SW areas listed in the Medellin Lists section. Most of them I would not go after dark. YMMV. As for casas, once you have the list of addresses and the google map it is the easiest way to get FS in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Hey Buddy:

Saw you walking in central today about 12 noon.

How long you in town? Just paid for PM service here and awaiting it to be activated so I can chat with you.

KB151

There is something special about this town that keeps guys coming back for more! Eric arrived two days ago from Clearwater, Florida for the second times in three months. Eric who lost his wife to cancer a year ago decided to rediscover Medellin after coming here over 30 years ago on his honeymoon. He had no idea what to expect but off we went to see if some of the places he remembered from all those years ago still existed. There was a restaurant where he had the most delicious rabbit he had ever tasted but what restaurant stays in business that long? Never did find it but it didn't matter because there is so many other things to see and do in the this town that he quickly forgot all about it. After being with the same women for the majority of his life, I didn't know what to expect when I introduced him to the young beautiful Paisa's. I shouldn't have been surprised when he fell in love again and again!

Common man. I won't back out. Just choose the women with the ongoing rate. A great company will far outweigh the benefits against the pussy charges. LOL.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1324163]It can be very expensive. I'd be the first one to take up on that offer if you do not back out. At any rate,

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[quote=aussie greg; 1324226]sex isn't for the squeamish, sex is a exchange of body fluids, saliva, breath and smells, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], semen, shit, sweat, microbes, bacteria.

a. g.[/quote]if sex for you involves an exchange of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], you might be drinking too much. i mean, if you are just pissing all over her that is one thing but an "exchange"? if sex for you involves an exchange of shit, it's even more likely you are drinking too much, since we know you aren't german.

Here is one that is supposed to be safe.
They were offering free samples. I got them, but because I am not traveling anywhere soon, I have not tried it.

X180.

[url]http://www.howlifeworks.com/Article.aspx?Cat_URL=health_beauty&AG_URL=How_to_Quickly_Boost_Your_Testosterone_for_Increased_Performance_441&AG_ID=1275&cid=8088nu_news_z[/url]

[QUOTE=Frank Casio; 1322810]Hi guy,

I use one in Envigado, it's too complicated to explain how to get there, but I'll be in Medellin myself next week and might be able to take you and tell you the brand I use. You can find Teste. In just about any pharmacy, but some will administer it to you and others will ask for a Dr. 's prescription. So you will have to shop around. It's very cheap, around $6-7US for 250 IU. I told one of my older guests about it and he started using them every time he visits and is very happy. I'm going to start using again as I am more calmed down now. Keep in touch, message me and I'll give you more info as soon as I arrive in Medellin in a couple days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frank Casio; 1323209]Hi Nino,

Thanks again for the info. But if I take the 4-5 IU, would I have to work out like a body builder? And what's the heads up on any sexual positive side effects, potency, libido, etc. And do you no prices in Medellin for a daily 4-5 IU dose?[/QUOTE]Frank,

I wouldn't recommend that anyone take 4-5 units for the short run. HGH really needs to be a long term therapy. 1-2 units. 5-7 times a week for the rest of one's life. I cycle off of it when I travel, which is recommended a few times a year. Usually a month at a time. This allows the body to continue to make growth hormone naturally instead of becoming totally dependent on the injections. So I really can't help you with sources or prices in Medellin.

Hope this helps!

[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1325175]Here is one that is supposed to be safe.

They were offering free samples. I got them, but because I am not traveling anywhere soon, I have not tried it.

X180.

[url]http://www.howlifeworks.com/Article.aspx?Cat_URL=health_beauty&AG_URL=How_to_Quickly_Boost_Your_Testosterone_for_Increased_Performance_441&AG_ID=1275&cid=8088nu_news_z[/url][/QUOTE]Remember, that article is an advertisement. I really don't think these test booster supplements do much good, especially if your test levels are low. Patches are good, but if you really want to see results, you need to being doing injections. I doubt very much the older fellow in the picture in that article is taking the supplements, but I would bet the ranch that he has been injecting test for quite a while.

[QUOTE=Nsd1983;1324963]Common man. I won't back out. Just choose the women with the ongoing rate. A great company will far outweigh the benefits against the pussy charges. LOL.[/QUOTE]You already know my travel plan for October. Keep in touch.

Cheers.

How is pricing vs 2 years ago? Is access to top tier girls easier? I was with 8s but saw 12s out.

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo;1325194]Remember, that article is an advertisement. I really don't think these test booster supplements do much good, especially if your test levels are low. Patches are good, but if you really want to see results, you need to being doing injections. I doubt very much the older fellow in the picture in that article is taking the supplements, but I would bet the ranch that he has been injecting test for quite a while.[/QUOTE]Bad reviews online for that supplement.

Interested in the girl line up there. Names pictures? Last time I was disappointed with the girls there. Deciding if its worth it or CTG?

Medellin is for Men, Cartagena is for tourist like Costa Rica. ? Hense, I stick with Medellin

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1325987]Medellin is for Men[/QUOTE]Medellin is for men? This forum is about consensual HETEROsexuxal p4p between a man and a women! Let's stick to the subject and keep your homo fantasies out of this forum!!

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1323618]A prepago will be very mad if you say that to her. She needs economic support, but never, she would say that she is a prepago. If she does, they usually try you to pay like 500k COP, for services that Colombian hardly pays 100k for.

But you have it good with a semi-prepago to. Just be generous to what yourself feels right, the numbers you have on this site in 10k reports from Medellin.

My tactic was to visit Energy, it was different house-rules in 2009, and prepagos in that have an apartment, for 100-150k.

Then afterwards, you can take that well edcucated, maybe english speaking girl out to dinner. Fully relaxed.

That was my game. Now when my spanish is much better I don't really need prepagos, my friends provide me with dates. Can't get any better than that. However, a good prepago always taste like a cold Carlsberg, probably the best sex.[/QUOTE]I like BV's Modus Operandi. Are there any casas like that in MDE (or Cali) where I may find girls that are likely to go out to dinner and dancing? I understand it is a hit or miss but if anyone has any success stories, I would love to hear.

I am sure the girls from Clubs will be happy to do but it might cost a bit. My buddy and I did that in CTG and it was a blast.

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1326097]I like BV's Modus Operandi. Are there any casas like that in MDE (or Cali) where I may find girls that are likely to go out to dinner and dancing? I understand it is a hit or miss but if anyone has any success stories, I would love to hear.

I am sure the girls from Clubs will be happy to do but it might cost a bit. My buddy and I did that in CTG and it was a blast.[/QUOTE]It's called chemistry. No rules for that in any casa. Either you got it with a prepago or don't. In other words if they like you they will.

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1326097]I like BV's Modus Operandi. Are there any casas like that in MDE (or Cali) where I may find girls that are likely to go out to dinner and dancing? I understand it is a hit or miss but if anyone has any success stories, I would love to hear.

I am sure the girls from Clubs will be happy to do but it might cost a bit. My buddy and I did that in CTG and it was a blast.[/QUOTE]Good luck amigo.

I tried to answer your PM, however, your Inbox was full.

Take care.

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1325987]Medellin is for Men, Cartagena is for tourist like Costa Rica. ? Hense, I stick with Medellin[/QUOTE]

When talking to people and they say, I've been to Colombia, and I say where in Colombia, they say Cartagena, my answer.
Thats not real Colombia, Cartagena is a tourist rip off but I must say, a nice old city.
A. G.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1326339]Good luck amigo.

I tried to answer your PM, however, your Inbox was full.

Take care.[/QUOTE]Sorry about that. I did not realize till I saw your post and thank you for letting me know. I just emptied it.

[QUOTE=Davidnelson;1325660]How is pricing vs 2 years ago? Is access to top tier girls easier? I was with 8s but saw 12s out.[/QUOTE]Prices are only slightly higher, lower increases than most cities in that time span. That said, the exchange rate is much worse for dollar, euro, etc than it was in say 2009.

Access to top tier girls I would say is slightly tougher. There is a bit more attention and opportunity so I would say average prepago appearance has gone down and the regular girls are more aware of their, hmmm,"value." that said, loads of fun and hot girls to be had, I would not be concerned. I've never been to havana (I am not allowed to go!) but I have heard it's also excellent for mongering and the overall experience.

Hi all! Medellin am known in part as the taster of prepayments, a man who review various girls lived experiences of the city, which serves as a reference for those who want to know more men like tourists.

In the midst of my experience I can recommend apartments prepayments, girls who draw their own apartments and they cater to customers who want a different experience, can find contact numbers of girls in various pages as paisasdivinas. Com amantesintimas. Com, inter damascolombianas. Com.

Those who wish to know more of my stories or reviews can visit me in [url]http://www.catadordeprepagosmedellin.com/[/url]

Happy day to all

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1326439]When talking to people and they say, I've been to Colombia, and I say where in Colombia, they say Cartagena, my answer.

Thats not real Colombia, Cartagena is a tourist rip off but I must say, a nice old city.

A. G.[/QUOTE]I have lived in Cartagena two months 2010 after having lived in Medellin three months. My friend invited me to stay at her parents house, and I payed like 500k COP / month including food and laundry from her mother. Increible friendly familily! I felt that people where very relaxed in Cartagena, paisas seem to be a progressive people, while the people in Cartagena, maybe due to the intense heat 24/7, can not keep up. I found girls be relaxed enojoying life and sex even more relaxed than in Medellíand. You need some Spanish skills to get across to the other side then you don't need to pay gringo prices. It is a lifetime investment.

I think that if you get to know people in Cartagena they will reward you with friendship. It's more expensive in the tourist areas, but many items and services cost the same as in Medellin, Periera or Cali.

Of course, Sir AG have a lot more experience than me, but I don't agree. Cartagena, if you can stand the climate, is a very nice place.

I know this is extremely early planning.

Next year will be my second trip Medellin. I'm planning to visit during my bday in the last week in July. I was thinking about staying an extra week for the flower festival. I heard most places like casas shutdown during that time. I have a few questions if anyone can answer them.

1. Is everything shutdown during flower festival?

2. Is it easier to meet a chica during flower festival?

3. I have a few chicas I keep in touch on facebook I met on my first trip. What are the chances they have free time during the flower festival?

BV, thank you for the SIR bit mate.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1327732]I have lived in Cartagena two months 2010 after having lived in Medellin three months. My friend invited me to stay at her parents house, and I payed like 500k COP / month including food and laundry from her mother. Increible friendly familily! I felt that people where very relaxed in Cartagena, paisas seem to be a progressive people.
A. G.
I agree.

While the people in Cartagena, maybe due to the intense heat 24/7, can not keep up.
A. G.
Work wise yes, I have found them very lazy, the most lazy in Colombia but all Colombians will sit down when U-turn your back.

I found girls be relaxed enojoying life and sex even more relaxed than in Medellíand.
A. G.
The sex part, depends largley on the guy to get the best out of a girl and if the girl likes having sex with you.

You need some Spanish skills to get across to the other side then you don't need to pay gringo prices. It is a lifetime investment.
A. G.
Thats the same in all latino countries.

I think that if you get to know people in Cartagena they will reward you with friendship. It's more expensive in the tourist areas, but many items and services cost the same as in Medellin, Periera or Cali.
Of course, Sir AG have a lot more experience than me, but I don't agree. Cartagena, if you can stand the climate, is a very nice place.
A. G.
Okay after three days and nights, what do you do? Yes the islands are nice for a few days and the interior from Cartagena is nice.
I live in Medellin because of the weather, carnt beat it.
A. G.

Matt has arrived and through half his stay everything has been great! Security guards do help plus the fact that I set him up with a sweetheart and he even took her to Santa Marta for a few days. Photo's. Returns to Medellin tomorrow and we'll see if the last 6 days of his stay here go without a hitch? I will let you know!

Clean trip with nothing but good memories! Matt flew out today back to the polar bears and eskimos! Says he will return around the 1st of Oct for another adventure. Going to stay with me for the first few days and takehis time finding an apartment that fits his criteria exactly before he moves out. I think its a great idea rather than taking a chance with the pictures and info over the internet which often times turns out to be like an over priced hooker. You come away feeling ripped off!

[QUOTE=Arjay;1323970]I'm planning on Medellin in the next 2 weeks or so. I also want to go to Santa Marta. Can you post picture of the chica? You can also PM me and I'll send my e-mail. Thanks, Arjay[/QUOTE]I tried to get back with you before but some reason it was never posted. The picture of the girl that was taken to Santa Marta is the first picture on [url]www.ColombiaJake.com[/url] I guess I may have missed your trip this time but I will tell you my night tour is one of the most exciting things you may ever experience. The only feedback I have heard is this is amazing but its not for the faint of heart. You see the city in a very different way which is exciting and amazing to most, but also a little scary to some no doubt. Eric returned to Clearwater after another fun time here with me feeling like a star! Tried to get a date with anyone for a concert and realized he had become just another USA old throw away. Nobody wants you in the USA after U-turn 45 unfortunately but you either adapt or die so they say. I only take in one or two people a month because I like to be full of energy and fun when you arrive. Let me know Colombia Jake

[QUOTE=Amb832; 1328131]I know this is extremely early planning.

1. Is everything shutdown during flower festival?

2. Is it easier to meet a chica during flower festival?

3. I have a few chicas I keep in touch on facebook I met on my first trip. What are the chances they have free time during the flower festival?[/QUOTE]1. Didn't check the casas this year but it seems like I heard about guys going. Normal places were still open.

2. Lots of crowds for the parades and concerts so might be easier for you to meet the ones you're standing next to.

3. During a couple of the days they might be taking their kids to see a parade, but other days and nights they should have free time (if all the other guys in town that week haven't already reserved them.)

Hey guys,

Just wondering what changed in Medellin the last years?

Is it still dangerous at night traveling as a Gringo?

Which places at Medellin are best avoid?

Other question, did you try to chat up girls on the Street, Bar etc? Does it work there being a Gringo? Or do they respond with Shock / Fear?

Internet and Disco are common places, men think are "easiest" but from my experience thats definetly not the case.

Saludos,

Manuel

Lately, it seems to go down in a hurry both in quality and quantity. For newbies to Medellin, it might still be an interesting place to come as if it were a new experience to you. For the vets, IMHO, only Friday night offers you the best selection of chicas if you are free from noviamigas and the likes for one night. That is my observation of the Mayo scene during the last few trips. At any rate,

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1328625]Lately, it seems to go down in a hurry both in quality and quantity. For newbies to Medellin, it might still be an interesting place to come as if it were a new experience to you. For the vets, IMHO, only Friday night offers you the best selection of chicas if you are free from noviamigas and the likes for one night. That is my observation of the Mayo scene during the last few trips. At any rate,

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Saturday nights are still very active but it gets going later (closer to midnight) because the bars there close later on Saturdays.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1320548]I immediately go to the local bar / kiosk area and find me a sweet sardina. I make eye contact and smile, she smiles back. I call her over from the crowd and she comes still smiling. I tell her what I want and she agrees to my offered 20k. She resisted at first coming to my hotel and wanted to go to one of the cheap run down hotels where all the working girls and local men go to. Since my hotel is near, she accepted. What a body this girl has! Firm. Firm with small waist and perky small breast barely enough to fit in my mouth. I tried. LOL.[/QUOTE]"the local bar / kiosk area"

What does this mean? I'm in downtown Medellin now and there are a few bars close by but I don't want to just go up to one of the waitresses and proposition her without knowing that she's available.

Can any of you pros clarify this for me? Feel free to pm me if you prefer.

And if anyone wants to meet up for drinks let me know.

jinx, i don't know what brasil was talking about, but if you are planning to immediately assume a waitress is a prostitute, i think that's just bad manners. it makes you look bad, it makes foreigners look bad in general.

assuming you speak spanish, just talk to her and see if you get along. if there is any chemistry, you can ask her when she gets off or something like that, just like you would do in your home country.

if you don't speak spanish, you probably need to get out of the bars in el centro, find some real casas.

chesrep001.

[quote=jinxx; 1328702]"the local bar / kiosk area"

what does this mean? i'm in downtown medellin now and there are a few bars close by but i don't want to just go up to one of the waitresses and proposition her without knowing that she's available.

can any of you pros clarify this for me? feel free to pm me if you prefer.

and if anyone wants to meet up for drinks let me know.[/quote]

[quote=chesrep001; 1328869]jinx, i don't know what brasil was talking about, but if you are planning to immediately assume a waitress is a prostitute, i think that's just bad manners. it makes you look bad, it makes foreigners look bad in general.

assuming you speak spanish, just talk to her and see if you get along. if there is any chemistry, you can ask her when she gets off or something like that, just like you would do in your home country.

if you don't speak spanish, you probably need to get out of the bars in el centro, find some real casas.

chesrep001.[/quote]i don't see anywhere that he says waitress.

he says he finds himself a "sweet sardina", meaning a younger girl.

sounds to me that he's referring to going to one of the hooker bars in el central and finding a chica in there to bring to his hotel.

big deal.

[quote=chesrep001; 1328869]jinx, i don't know what brasil was talking about, but if you are planning to immediately assume a waitress is a prostitute, i think that's just bad manners. it makes you look bad, it makes foreigners look bad in general.

assuming you speak spanish, just talk to her and see if you get along. if there is any chemistry, you can ask her when she gets off or something like that, just like you would do in your home country.

if you don't speak spanish, you probably need to get out of the bars in el centro, find some real casas.

chesrep001.[/quote]good post. walking around with a hard dick and a twenty dollar bill hanging out of your mouth is just tacky. i've gotten more pussy by acting like i'm not looking for pussy. most pretty girl's have guys tripping over each other trying to get her. that confident, self-assured, laidback dude will always arouse her curiosity.

It's El Centro, Ricker what happened to your Spanish?

Did you not see that Jinxx asked about waitresses?

"hooker bars". Maybe we need a map of them, or more info in any event.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1328896]I don't see anywhere that he says waitress.

He says he finds himself a "sweet sardina", meaning a younger girl.

Sounds to me that he's referring to going to one of the hooker bars in el Central and finding a chica in there to bring to his hotel.

Big deal.[/QUOTE]

I give props to the guys who have the balls to hang out in el centro at night. That place is fucking raw. The place is crawling with crackhead zombies, transvestites, gays, thieves, shady looking cops, and girls of questionable ages. And I thought mexico was raw. Mexico is like disneyland compared to Colombia, almost. Number one word of advice if you ever find yourself in mde el centro at night, don't make eye contact with anybody if you can help it, unless it's a hot chick. Even then you better look close enough to make sure she's not a tranny.

I went to check the mayorista scene last weekend. I had to do it if for nothing else just to be able to say I'd been there. It was awkward for me because I was alone and didn't feel like drinking there so I basically just walked back and forth checking out the chicks until I decided on one. She was kind of thick but pretty young face. I'd give her maybe a 6. Service about a 6. I doubt I'll go back there without some colombiano buddies. But then I don't know if I'd want to associate with any colombians who would hang out in a raunchy place like that, LOL!

Ricker, what "hooker bars" are you referring to, if you don't mind me asking? The strip clubs or those billares sports bar places? Or is this a read between the lines, figure it out yourself kind of deal? Either way it's cool.

Probably he's talking about De greiff, Veracruz, or other. Check Medellin list.

[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1328702]"the local bar / kiosk area"

What does this mean? I'm in downtown Medellin now and there are a few bars close by but I don't want to just go up to one of the waitresses and proposition her without knowing that she's available.

Can any of you pros clarify this for me? Feel free to pm me if you prefer.

And if anyone wants to meet up for drinks let me know.[/QUOTE]

[quote=chesrep001; 1328912]it's el centro, ricker what happened to your spanish?

did you not see that jinxx asked about waitresses?

"hooker bars". maybe we need a map of them, or more info in any event.[/quote]jajaja, you're right!

you have to know that i'm always between writing emails and posts in english, spanish and portuguese.

you should hear me as i end a call to a brasileira then call a colombiana; takes a minute or so to re- rack the language computer en la mente jajaja.

as far as jinxx's post goes; he was referring to a post that brasileiro made.

i just stated that brasileiro's post really wasn't referring to waitresses is all.

take care.

I'm planning a trip to Medellin and was planning on staying at Il Castillo. When I went to their website, they are Hotel Casa Blanca now. What happened? New management? Were they bought out? Is Boyd there anymore? Have the policies changed, is it still a good place to go?

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1328936]Probably he's talking about De greiff, Veracruz, or other. Check Medellin list.[/QUOTE]He told me where this place was and how he operated. I was very impressed with the ways he conducted himself the entire trip. He is a legend.

Cheers.

I was in Mansion many weeks ago. It is much better place now when it has a bar. Before action stopped around 8, now there are girls available whole night, depending little of which week day it is.

I did not take any girls from Dolce Face or Mayorista although I visited them, because Mansion girls had always pumped me dry already.

In the morning there are no girls available, so better collect some phone numbers and call girl by yourself if you want morning action.

Or ask from office to call somebody

[QUOTE=Vatore007;1328965]I'm planning a trip to Medellin and was planning on staying at Il Castillo. When I went to their website, they are Hotel Casa Blanca now. What happened? New management? Were they bought out? Is Boyd there anymore? Have the policies changed, is it still a good place to go?[/QUOTE]New name, new website, new Bar, new English Students, same old Greg, Robert and Boyd, [url]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/news.html[/url]

[QUOTE=TweedleD; 1329126]New name, new website, new Bar, new English Students, same old Greg, Robert and Boyd,

[url]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/news.html[/url][/QUOTE]Same old Greg and Robert, geeeeee, thats not nice.

Boyds gone misssing though!

Goooooooooooooooooooo JETSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1330564]Same old Greg and Robert, geeeeee, thats not nice.

Boyds gone misssing though!

Goooooooooooooooooooo JETSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

A. G.[/QUOTE]It's Nice to have certain things consistent, A good reliable hotel, excellent customer service, fun friendly owners and staff! Not to mention fresh baked apple pies!

I will be staying in Laureles, which casa is still open in that area. Which casas do you recommend? Anyone?

[QUOTE=DmeHcg;1331418]I will be staying in Laureles, which casa is still open in that area. Which casas do you recommend? Anyone?[/QUOTE]Energy has had very good talent there every time I have been there. Nice place, too.

Is there a list of casas and their addresses?

[QUOTE=Monger#77;1331697]Is there a list of casas and their addresses?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists&p=1107931&viewfull=1#post1107931[/url]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1330564]Same old Greg and Robert, geeeeee, thats not nice.

Boyds gone misssing though!

Goooooooooooooooooooo JETSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Greg,

Unable to plan better. Mainly due to airline flights. & will arrive early in Medellin (on the 26th of oct). Before the room at the castillo becomes available on the 29th. Do you have friends / contacts you would refer me to?

Thanks.

Cya in oct.

I was one of their most frequent visitor I think in October.December 2009. The talent was very good. The price was 90k COP for 1 hour. Girls agrred on BBBJ for 30-60 k COP.

The best sex in my life!

Then in December 2010 they had changed the rules. One time the girl just accepted one fuck with coming, refused to make more fucking " solamente un relacion". One time I couldn't hold back and came fast: The girl said that the service was finished, and she was my favorite in 2009.

From Paradise to HELL.

If they still not have got the picture, skip this place. Do not visit Energy.

Personally my best value for the money is the place beside Estambul in Centro. They had equally sexy girls for half the price.

[QUOTE=EstebanH;1331675]Energy has had very good talent there every time I have been there. Nice place, too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo;1332004]Personally my best value for the money is the place beside Estambul in Centro. They had equally sexy girls for half the price.[/QUOTE]But I can not really remember the exact location of where OR what this is. A casa? Strip bar? Can you enlighten us? I will definitely pay a visit on my next trip.

Cheers.

1. Encuentros (Estambul) , Calle 49 # 43-68, piso 2. 4-6 Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min. 45k 45 min. 50k hour. Tel: (57) (4) 239 89 42. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am to 7:30pm, Sundays and Holidays 10am to 5pm. (#28 on Tung's Map.)

It should be this place. One or two gates before the love hotel Estambul if you walk up from Centro. They have people in the vicinity on the plaza who give you cards with adress and phonenumber.

I remember the girls being very young 18-20 why-o and very feminine. A very cute morena with a thin body and the most beautiful natural D-cups breats I have seen in Latinamerica. I payed 15-30k COP extra for BBBJ.

Hopes this helpes

3rd trip to Medellin.

Book the flight for 9/11 but did not realize the significance of that date until a few weeks later. I show up at sfo at 4am and of course it has been canceled. They said mechanical issues but I think I was the only dummy to book a flight on that day and they canceled due to lack of customers. That's what I think. They booked me on the next days flight, same time. My entire vaca pushed back one day, AA gave me a $150 voucher for the inconvenience and taxi cost.

Spent the first night in El Centro at The Nutibara Hotel. It's a dump in my book ($60 per night) but very close to the strip clubs. Hit the ground running (Wed. Night) and was hunting for a girlfriend at (strip club) Los Americas. The first chica I wanted would go to my hotel for 3 hours at 100, 000 pesos. Got to the hotel and she didn't have I'd, hotel won't let her in. Go back to L. A's and start all over, grab the first honey that has a nice smile, and she had a nice everything.

The price in the strip club was 80. 000 pesos for an hour in the back rms. I thought it was suppose to be 50, 000 so I wasn't going for it. As I talked to the new chica I kept repeating 100, 000 por 3 horas en mi hotel, over and over again. Soon after we were in the rm. And she was a good performer, great fleshy tits. We got out there and stayed up till 4 or 5am. She was sweet and pretty and did her best for me. Her body was typical paisa, curvy yet slender w / ample tits. She stayed all night and I gave her 180, 000 = $100. Her exit fee to the bar was 50, 000.

Check out of Nutibara at 12 and head to Hotel Medellin Plaza. Spend the first night at HMP recovering from the night before. Friday and I'm ready for more action, eventually head down the hill to HMP #1. See the new bar for the first time and it's fine. It's approx. 30' sq. W / couches lining the walls, small bar off to the side. This is where the hotel guest end up, bar opens at 6pm. I hooked up w / 4 or 5 chicas from this bar during my stay. The chicas range from ok to pretty good. The quality of the sex is the same, ok to pretty good. There were a couple of standouts for me, Monica, Diana, Christina and eventually the famous one. There were also a few duds of course. Most of the women I experienced were not tight, almost all had a least one kid. In retrospect I think the quality of lady (at HMP) has slipped a little from my first visit to HMP in 2011, maybe it was my timing. Also my choices in chicas might not have been very good. Some of the ladies there that are not the best lookers turn out to be the best fuckers. I think I need to work on my selection process a little more.

Near the end of my 9 days I hooked up w / the famous one. I saw her at the bar earlier in the week and got her number. She is a freaking sexy looking paisa. We got pretty wild and stayed up real late. Took an early morning swim w / her and much much more. She allowed pics eventually and I got some good ones. Her body is a little worn but still excellent. Her tits are beautifully shaped and more than a handful. She is a very sexy woman but she is quite full of herself and constantly being distracted by her phone. I still enjoyed her but had better sex w / a couple of other ladies this trip. I over paid her because I thought it would benefit me later but it didn't. She took advantage of my kind nature and in so doing helped me understand the downside of overpaying.

My big success came in the form of finding a new dentist. The HMP sent me to their dentist and I thought he was very good. My dentist in SF's Pac Hts wanted $1, 800 for 3 cavities. My new dentist in Medellin charged me $160 for the same 3 cavities. I am very happy w / the work and the way it was done. So that is huge and will also provide a good reason to return to Medellin in the future.

As for this trip overall, I wish I had done more things but I stuck w / the low hanging fruit at La Cueva in HMP #1. At times I partied like I was in the 80's again and that was fun but it takes a lot out of me. I did venture into El Centro via el bus and went to the casa, New Life. It is a decent experience but rather industrial. The chica I saw (Samantha) turned up her sexuality once the door was closed and that really helps. She wanted 30, 000 extra for BBBJ sin condom and she got it. But I only got about a minute of BBBJ action, then on w / condom and the fucking commences. I'm out of there in 16 minutes. These women are pros at getting you on your way fast. I can do w or w / out the casas. I would have like to see the more upscale ones, perhaps next time.

The HMP cost $70 per night w / free breakfast, good wifi, and free calls to the USA. My rm was big, comfortable and very private. The service there is very good and the 3 owners are friendly and helpful. I think it's a great hotel for the novice or pro monger. I liked being in El Centro but not sure about hotels in that area. The Nutibara is a little dumpy for my taste but doable if you don't mind dingy old rms. W / no hot water. Also checked out the hotels in La Mayorista I / e, Central Plaza (the best I saw) , Hotel Caravan and the others on that street. They all offer very small rms. At a small price, approx. $22 per night. The Central Plaza had AC and jacuzzi's on top floor. They are clean and looked comfortable except for being very small. No fridge in any of them which I like to have in the rm.

I went to La Mayorista twice, once in the daytime and then again on a Monday night around 12am. Saw one hottie there in the daytime and nothing on Monday night. Stupid me, on the Monday night visit I notice the policia on the corner. They are by themselves as everyone on this little strip avoids them except me of course. As I walk by them they stop me and ask me what I'm doing. I had a beer in my hand and quickly put it down and out of sight. I told them I was looking for a cab. Where are you staying sir? I'm at the Hotel Medellin Plaza. After a long look. OK, you can go. And that's exactly what I did. Hauled ass back to HMP and hooked up w / Diana (big tattoo on her back, of her sister) and she was excellent. She was leaving in a taxi and I flagged that sucker down and pulled her. I wish I had a few pics of her.

So my 3rd trip was fine. I learned a little more and fucked some nice babes. Will have to wait a full year before returning to Medellin unless of course my teeth start acting up. I will also say (in general) that the Colombianas are spectacular in appearance, nothing like them here in California, nothing even close. Here are a few pics. Please! No names. Gracias and Cheers

[QUOTE=Socker;1332372]I went to La Mayorista twice, once in the daytime and then again on a Monday night around 12am. Saw one hottie there in the daytime and nothing on Monday night. Stupid me, on the Monday night visit I notice the policia on the corner. They are by themselves as everyone on this little strip avoids them except me of course. As I walk by them they stop me and ask me what I'm doing. I had a beer in my hand and quickly put it down and out of sight. I told them I was looking for a cab. Where are you staying sir? I'm at the Hotel Medellin Plaza. After a long look. OK, you can go.[/QUOTE]I enjoyed it very much. Amigo, you did not have to put your beer down and out of sight. It is perfectly ok to drink there. The policia shows up in Mayo on occasions to keep the place at peace as there are many drug dealers and addicts around.

Thanks.

Hey guys I've been here in Medellin a while and I feel like I have a pretty good handle on the place, so I'd like to offer my services as a tour-guide / wingman. When I first got here I was kind of intimidated and wished I would've had someone help show me around. I speak spanish and I blend in pretty easily so if you're with me it will kind of feel like you're with a local.

Basically what I can do for you is accompany you anywhere you want to go. I know where everything is at. I'll translate and make sure you don't pay too much for any services. I know exactly what to look out for and won't let you get into anything unsafe. I can take you to casas, strip-clubs, bars, street scene, escorts, discotecas, restaurants, pretty much anything you want to do. I like to mix a little bit of the discoteca scene in with the mongering just because the women at the non-pro discotecas are so amazingly beautiful. I can help you approach regular girls and who knows maybe you can hook up with one. And if not oh well, a strip club is only a short taxi ride away. It's all up to you.

My fees are $50usd for daytime hours, $50usd nighttime tour, and $100 for day and night together.

If you're interested pm me with your info. Let me know when you're going to be in town, what kind of accomadations you're looking for (apt rental, hotel) , and give me an idea of what you're looking for. Are you looking for low-end, midrange, top-shelf?

I'll do my best to get everything set up for you and make sure your trip is hassle-free so all you have to do is enjoy yourself.

I've been back in town a few days now and I have to say right off, even though I love and enjoy demasiado my time in Brazil where I'm hanging these days, you just really can't beat the pure beauty of the Paisas.

They always seem to amaze me.

I'm staying this trip at the Mansion, or whatever the current name is, it'll always be the Mansion to me.

Though obviously I don't return to Colombia to meet dudes, I have met some cool ones staying at the Mansion this trip.

No strange birds, yet anyway.

Also the famous, now ISG banned for some reason, Reefski is here.

That man is always happy and smiling and with a beautiful Paisa on his arm. Very nice guy and takes Cuba Nut quality photos.

Anyway, I've been about everywhere now in Medellin, hitting all the old haunts and always looking for new.

I've been exclusively with pros so far this trip, Just as I planned.

Tomorrow I'm switching gears to my Medellin non pro for a couple days and then I'm heading to Cali to see this absolutely beautiful morena non pro I met previously.

Of course I've seen the new bar at the Mansion, la Cueva.

Very nice. Beautiful and friendly bartender, Paula.

I'm sure she's breaking gringo hearts.

Met lots of Mansion chicas. Some really hot, some pretty or cute, none ugly.

Just about all have been nice people.

Though I certainly can't blame guys for partaking with them, I just don't really.

I have several phone numbers now, just in case, however, most likely not.

There's just so much out there, especially if you can speak at least OK conversational spanish.

I hit 2 casas. At both I believe I struck gold. Both sessions were great with good chemestry.

I returned to see one of the chicas again and it was even better, I'm going to try and see her on the side, outside the casa for more fun, if I can I can fit it in.

I even had good luck this trip, twice even, on the seedy streets of el Centro.

I always take a walk thru the street scene in Centro, almost never pulling the trigger.

This trip I met 2 sexy chicas, amazingly with cedulas, out working.

Though the rooms out there are yuckoo, the sessions were fun and amazingly, the girls though unsophisticated, were very hot and sexy.

My main fun though has been with a couple Mayo chicas I've befriended.

To these girls, for the Mansion girl normal price of 150K pesos, they'd stay with ya for 2 soild days haha.

These 2 girls, both diamonds in the rough, treat me like a boyfriend with great sex, passionate kisses, whatever I want really.

Funny side note: one of these Mayo chicas saw me leaving one of the love Motels with another chica (a random sexy girl, quick sex) and she got kind of jealous with me but finally succomed and told me "esta bien, I understand Papi, you're a man, you need variety, just don't give her your kisses or love".

Now that's the attitude we all like.

That's my story so far this trip and I'm betting the next few days will be even better.

Hasta pronto, Ricker. :)

I have a noviamiga that I know for a year now. I've had many "better than incredible" experiences with this awesome girl. I am sure many of you have similar friends. One problem, she has an ex boyfriend that is like a muthafrekin hungry stray dog. (meaning, ya just don't know what it is capable of)

On one visit, he got a hold of my colombian phone number and started calling me and texting me. One time I answered and I actually felt sympathetic upon hearing his lies about how this girl is his wife and I should leave her alone and an idle threat "this is Medellin, this is my city, you are not home in the United States.". Next visit, I heard nothing from him.

Recently, he tried to become my friend under a fake alias on facebook but I saw it coming a mile away. Then, even more recently, in my excited frenzy of planning my next itinerary, he tried again and I took the bait. Now he knows the date of my arrival and other small bits of personal info that you can find out about me on my FB page.

My noviamiga has already filed a police complaint about him because he sporadically harasses / begs her and once even showed up at her job. She tells me she broke up with him because he was cheating on her (big surprise) and she could not deal with it any more because it was just too blatant. She says he has never done anything violent to another person.

Any suggestions? I really do not want to cut this girl off but of course my safety is the priority.

Thanks

I vote for cutting her off. But if not, it seems like you would be able to spend time with here where no one would know. You could ask her to come in a taxi and when she arrives you could jump in the taxi and go directly to a love motel, there seem to be some really luxurious ones. Or you could go to eat or anywhere with her using the taxi. It seems like what you wouldn't want to do is wander around your old haunts with her or go to her neighborhood.

This dude seems very serious about going extra lengths for his girl, might be time to drop that whole situation. No need to put yourself at risk over a piece of ass. The dude knows what you look like, has your number, and is trying to get on your Facebook page. I'm surprised you haven't dumped her already.

Hasideas Tao

[QUOTE=Any suggestions? I really do not want to cut this girl off but of course my safety is the priority.Thanks[/QUOTE]

You already answered your question with the statement above. If "Safety is the priority". Then whey do you even think of hanging out with this girl? Life is cheap and so is a hitman in Medellin. By him stalking you a million miles away in another country via facebook is a huge sign this guy is unstable. He can easily hire a hitman and wack you with no problem in Medellin. Plus. Do you really want to spend your hard earned money while on vacation worrying and watching your back every minute? There is plenty of women for you to get all wrapped up on one and deal with all this baggage!

Cheers and good luck to you.

Buddy:

I live here so let me just give my 2 cents.

In your favor you do NOT live here. So, with that said, I would use this as an excuse to have "quick" time with her and then you will have more time for other chicks. I would have her dropped off by the taxi and then she can gain access to where ever you are staying. Just do not hang out with her in publis! This is a great situation. You can hook up and have fun and spend a whole lot less money!

Have her tell the taxi cab driver to take a lap or 2 around your place before dropping her off. In this way she can see if anyone is following her.

Thats what I would do.

KB.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1332820]I have a noviamiga that I know for a year now. I've had many "better than incredible" experiences with this awesome girl. I am sure many of you have similar friends. One problem, she has an ex boyfriend that is like a muthafrekin hungry stray dog. (meaning, ya just don't know what it is capable of)

On one visit, he got a hold of my colombian phone number and started calling me and texting me. One time I answered and I actually felt sympathetic upon hearing his lies about how this girl is his wife and I should leave her alone and an idle threat "this is Medellin, this is my city, you are not home in the United States.". Next visit, I heard nothing from him.

Recently, he tried to become my friend under a fake alias on facebook but I saw it coming a mile away. Then, even more recently, in my excited frenzy of planning my next itinerary, he tried again and I took the bait. Now he knows the date of my arrival and other small bits of personal info that you can find out about me on my FB page.

My noviamiga has already filed a police complaint about him because he sporadically harasses / begs her and once even showed up at her job. She tells me she broke up with him because he was cheating on her (big surprise) and she could not deal with it any more because it was just too blatant. She says he has never done anything violent to another person.

Any suggestions? I really do not want to cut this girl off but of course my safety is the priority.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Hasideas Tao.

If I were in your situation I would continue seeing this girl discreetly, but make sure she understands that if this idiot keeps up his bs that you'll have to stop seeing her. Depending on how much you want to continue seeing this girl, you could file a complaint with the police about him harassing you and threatening you. That could be a hassle that may or may not be worth it to you. Don't forget there are always other fish in the sea.

Take care.

Colombianas like to pretend that the guys a stalker, he's annoying, I don't want anything to do with him, blah blah blah etc etc etc, but in reality secretly, she's probably still banging him and she absolutely loves the attention. Hence the psycho behavior!

She might be telling you she's going to "great lengths" for him to leave her alone but has anybody even ever heard of a restraining order in Colombia? The reason he's acting like a stalker because she's banging him as well, playing both sides of the fences and she likes the attention like almost all Colombianas do. Believe me, if she really wanted to put and end to it she would have done it a long time ago and all it really takes is one angry phone call to his parents. They will snap it out of him and knock some sense in him, make him feel like shit, especially if he has a sister she will make him feel Undignified, that's how it works over there, la familia trumps even the police!

I will be in MDE the last week of October if anyone wants to hang out with me. It will be my first time in Colombia. I am looking to try to meet non-working girls during the day and working girls at night if no success during the day. PM me.

[QUOTE=Crown Royal; 1332844]Or we could get lucky and have him permanently take you out, doing all of us a favor.

On another subject, what is it about a guy getting there chest waxed? Through a very reliable contact from this board I have learned this is what illegal tender does. Now this shit is gay as hell. I guess you never know who is walking on both sides of fence. SMFH[/QUOTE]Things have been a little boring around here lately. A little drama about the stalking ex novio, and the welcomed report of Ricker's recent foray in the City of Eternal Spring. Now, it's obvious we have a new troll. That's indisputable. Which banned member is now posting as Crown Royal?

Just to be consistant, Crown Royal, only good energy, whoever you really are.

Oh, to set the record straight, I get my balls waxed. By your mama, after some decent head by the old girl.

Thank you friends. I appreciate the many good suggestions and valid remarks. I have many reasons to believe she is being truthful with me. However, I have been guilty of naivete on more than one occasion. Colombia is great, but for sure, here in the US we live in a bubble and the same rules do not apply. I will suggest about making the family aware. In my opinion, that would probably be the most viable and effective. I did tell her she needs to take care of this situation and that I cannot allow myself to be anyone's target in addition to simply standing out as a gringo. I am so foolishly proud that my internal dialogue dictates to never make decisions based on fear. However, my pride can trick me into blurring the lines between fear and prudent caution.

All this is a good reminder for me that I need to adhere to certain rules of safety and realize, jealousy is an extremely powerful motivator. No matter how relaxed the situation appears, having developed some comfortable and rewarding patterns by staying in the same places and seeing the same girls. I tend to resist change, especially when I find such great chemistry with someone.

We all must remind ourselves, change is good. Change is a major force in what makes us grow. My numerous visits have led me to believe I have the situation under control. I am learning the lay of the land. I am creating a niche for myself. And guess what, some of the wrong people are beginning to notice. Time for a change. It is difficult to let go of something or someone who seems so great. But obviously she has some baggage she needs to take care of. Until then, time for new beginnings, new noviamigas with new unknown baggage. Haha Back to the good ol' days.

Peace and positive energy!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1332982]Colombianas like to pretend that the guys a stalker, he's annoying, I don't want anything to do with him, blah blah blah etc etc etc, but in reality secretly, she's probably still banging him and she absolutely loves the attention. Hence the psycho behavior!

She might be telling you she's going to "great lengths" for him to leave her alone but has anybody even ever heard of a restraining order in Colombia? The reason he's acting like a stalker because she's banging him as well, playing both sides of the fences and she likes the attention like almost all Colombianas do. Believe me, if she really wanted to put and end to it she would have done it a long time ago and all it really takes is one angry phone call to his parents. They will snap it out of him and knock some sense in him, make him feel like shit, especially if he has a sister she will make him feel Undignified, that's how it works over there, la familia trumps even the police![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1333171]Time for a change. It is difficult to let go of something or someone who seems so great. But obviously she has some baggage she needs to take care of. Until then, time for new beginnings, new noviamigas with new unknown baggage.[/QUOTE]You just answered your own question then, you tell her that you want nothing to do with her until she takes care of her baggage and that it is HER PROBLEM to deal with it and take care of it. If she really likes you she will go that extra mile and really take you seriously and take care of it. Colombianas will move heaven and earth to be with someone the like. Others (most) will play both sides of the fence with many guys, whoever is the "best option" on that Friday or Saturday night. But then lies the question if she really took care of it or just said she did so you need to make sure. Believe me I've been there with the jealous ex novio or husband and nobody likes eating or drinking with their back to the wall, curious, suspicious of everybody around you when you are out, that's no way to enjoy your vacation time. Especially in a country with 20million women.

So this coming Friday I will be doing my 2nd trip to Medellin. I will be staying at the Mansion 1 for the first few days and then moving to an Apt. I have been reading this treat for a few weeks now trying 2 find the Casas, Strip Clubs and Clubs that are worth checking out and I have an idea but I would love 2 get some suggestions from the people that are in Medellin right now. So to thoses that are in Medellin at the moment what's popping?

[QUOTE=Monger#77;1332984]I will be in MDE the last week of October if anyone wants to hang out with me. It will be my first time in Colombia. I am looking to try to meet non-working girls during the day and working girls at night if no success during the day. PM me.[/QUOTE]I Know I sound like a broken record but you guys that live in the USA just can't get enough of Medellin! Matt is back again and together with the same chica I set him up with before his trip with her to Santa Marta. There is chemistry and not just because he treats her well. Even without much Spanish they are laughing and having fun together. Its real and its what you get when you work the streets and find some diamonds. That is where I met her and what I enjoy doing on my tours. She is hoping for something that may or may not happen long term but its here and you can find it with a little work! [url]www.colombiajake.com[/url]

Jake

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1333183]You just answered your own question then, you tell her that you want nothing to do with her until she takes care of her baggage and that it is HER PROBLEM to deal with it and take care of it. If she really likes you she will go that extra mile and really take you seriously and take care of it. Colombianas will move heaven and earth to be with someone the like. Others (most) will play both sides of the fence with many guys, whoever is the "best option" on that Friday or Saturday night. But then lies the question if she really took care of it or just said she did so you need to make sure. Believe me I've been there with the jealous ex novio or husband and nobody likes eating or drinking with their back to the wall, curious, suspicious of everybody around you when you are out, that's no way to enjoy your vacation time. Especially in a country with 20million women.[/QUOTE]MHL has a way of separating the wheat from the shaft. It's HER PROBLEM, and it's your choice if you want to make it YOUR PROBLEM. It all depends on your level of connection and desire to protect this particular little Paisa. Depending on her circumstances, she or her family might not be able to dissuade the ex novio from continuing to bother her. It sounds as if you've been around Medellin somewhat. Hopefully you've developed some local contacts. Folks that will have no difficulty in having the ex develop a new love interest exist. Have you considered that? Fast, easy, and non violent. All it takes is a request that he desist from the right person, and he's out of the picture.

Sometimes, it takes this kind of "good" energy.

Well I stepped out of my hotel in el centro today. Right into the middle of a f*cking riot! I've never seen so many cops in my life. People running all over the place. Shit was crazy!

[QUOTE=Jinxx;1333296]Well I stepped out of my hotel in el centro today. Right into the middle of a f*cking riot! I've never seen so many cops in my life. People running all over the place. Shit was crazy![/QUOTE]I was just thinking, fuck, I wish I were there. It's a desire that those in my real life would never consider belonged to me. I am not too stupid. I know where to go and not go in Medellin, but if you're there enough, you'll get into a situation that will make your asshole draw up so tight that you couldn't drive a broom straw up it with a sledge hammer. Haven't gotten assaulted or robbed yet (except years ago in Paris) , but I guess I find the adrenaline rush invigorating.

[QUOTE=Lusifer69;1333211]So this coming Friday I will be doing my 2nd trip to Medellin. I will be staying at the Mansion 1 for the first few days and then moving to an Apt. I have been reading this treat for a few weeks now trying 2 find the Casas, Strip Clubs and Clubs that are worth checking out and I have an idea but I would love 2 get some suggestions from the people that are in Medellin right now. So to thoses that are in Medellin at the moment what's popping?[/QUOTE]As far as casas go, New Life seems to be a favorite, and yet, Friday near closing time it pretty much sucked, I just cruise from one to the other (theres alot in centro) And you can always find something doable, Refer to the Medellin List thread, There is a few now that are asking a viewing fee, I just walk

What area of El Centro are you talking about? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Jinxx;1333296]Well I stepped out of my hotel in el centro today. Right into the middle of a f*cking riot! I've never seen so many cops in my life. People running all over the place. Shit was crazy![/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2787-Map-of-Casas-of-Centro-in-Medellin&p=1308121&viewfull=1#post1308121[/url]

[QUOTE=Lusifer69;1333211]So this coming Friday I will be doing my 2nd trip to Medellin. I will be staying at the Mansion 1 for the first few days and then moving to an Apt. I have been reading this treat for a few weeks now trying 2 find the Casas, Strip Clubs and Clubs that are worth checking out and I have an idea but I would love 2 get some suggestions from the people that are in Medellin right now. So to thoses that are in Medellin at the moment what's popping?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1333382]What area of El Centro are you talking about? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The part I witnessed was around el junin, maracaibo, Caracas, carrera 50, and parque bolivar. I saw a mob with sticks and bats and the big tank think shooting water come down maracaibo then go up cra 50, then I walked by parque bolivar I must have seen at leas 100 cops piled up like they were getting ready to go to war. There's an article about in on Colombia reports. Twice I had to take off running because I heard some loud boom and everybody else took off running. Men, women, children, old ladies. I've never experienced anything like it in my life.

[QUOTE=Jinxx;1333407]The part I witnessed was around el junin, maracaibo, Caracas, carrera 50, and parque bolivar. I saw a mob with sticks and bats and the big tank think shooting water come down maracaibo then go up cra 50, then I walked by parque bolivar I must have seen at leas 100 cops piled up like they were getting ready to go to war. There's an article about in on Colombia reports. Twice I had to take off running because I heard some loud boom and everybody else took off running. Men, women, children, old ladies. I've never experienced anything like it in my life.[/QUOTE][url]Http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/26292-criminal-gang-infiltrated-protest-medellin-mayor.html[/url]

Thanks, Jinxx and Tender!

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1333570][url]Http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/26292-criminal-gang-infiltrated-protest-medellin-mayor.html[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jinxx;1333407]The part I witnessed was around el junin, maracaibo, Caracas, carrera 50, and parque bolivar. I saw a mob with sticks and bats and the big tank think shooting water come down maracaibo then go up cra 50, then I walked by parque bolivar I must have seen at leas 100 cops piled up like they were getting ready to go to war. There's an article about in on Colombia reports. Twice I had to take off running because I heard some loud boom and everybody else took off running. Men, women, children, old ladies. I've never experienced anything like it in my life.[/QUOTE]


Can you see any immediate effect on the action in El centro (street walkers, strip clubs, casa's)?

Anyone know the current location of Abydos?

I heard they moved and I see that it was removed from the Medellin Casa map.

The City of Medellin has cracked down on all the street vendors without licences, thats all and these street vendors protested, plus a few gang members.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1333923]The City of Medellin has cracked down on all the street vendors without licences, thats all and these street vendors protested, plus a few gang members.

A. G.[/QUOTE]The mayor wants all roving vendors (los vendedores ambulantes) out of the area between Ayacucho all the way across to the curve of Oriental (behind the Church) and on the other side between Giradot all the way down two blocks west (down the hill so to speak) of the main metro line. It is a huge square area that includes 3 subway stops (Prado, Parque Berrio, and right on the edge of the proposed border station San Antonio)

The government is citing criminal activity with many of the roving vendors so has decided to ban ALL OF THEM from this high traffic and high profit area. Most of which are hardworking and honest. These vendors are up getting ready at 5AM busting their backs 14 hours a day until 7PM making an honest living and supporting families. These guys are in tears over this bullshit ban.

Why not just arrest roving vendors who are criminals? Well let's be honest, that would be the sensible thing to do. Lock up criminals regardless off their occupation. But the "crimes" well, that's not really the issue but the smokescreen.

The storefronts who actually pay rent and higher taxes obviously have a lower profit margin and are feeling the effects of the bad economy. Getting rid of the roving street vendors cuts out a good chunk of competition.

This is political push from storefronts complaining perhaps greasing the government to get rid the roving vendors in an effort to clean up centro. Pirated DVDs and other bad stuff is still and always will be available all over the city. This could get really ugly as the government is royally screwing the hardworking people who need it the most. This affects hundreds of vendors not to mention the thousands back home in los barrios populares that depend on them.

[QUOTE=Bennn;1333888]Can you see any immediate effect on the action in El centro (street walkers, strip clubs, casa's)?[/QUOTE]Some banks in the area were still closed as of today and there were still some issues last night. Watching the news would be a good bet. I would just stay away at night. For now. Actually staying out of Centro at night is usually a good bet, not really worth the risk.

El Centro is certainly a different world from Poblado.

I agree that is harsh for those street vendors who have probably been there for years, all of a sudden can't work. But for the most part, there are many others with literally a lot of garbage they are trying to sell. Overpriced fake sneakers, aren't so bad, but used clothes, old broken appliances. Does anyone really buy that garbage? There is a lot of useless junk picked from the trash and not forgetting to mention the hoards of people clustered under the metro, crapping and pissing and doing drugs, forcing you to walk in the street. Seems like a lot of those people just don't know where else to go. Maybe keeping them out will force them to find something better to do. That being said, back home I always say that I am approached by very few straight up beggars. Seems to me, like everyone has something they are trying to exchange for cash. In contrast to many US cities where beggars stand in front of stores and flat out just ask for your change. We even teach our kids to do it. For example, it confuses me when I see teenagers standing outside the grocery store asking for donations for their sports team, benefit or cause. At least girl scouts will sell you 6 cookies in a box that could probably hold twice as many. Who knows what is the right answer? I would love to hear some front line reports what the atmosphere is like down there these days?

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1334125]I agree that is harsh for those street vendors who have probably been there for years, all of a sudden can't work. But for the most part, there are many others with literally a lot of garbage they are trying to sell. Overpriced fake sneakers, aren't so bad, but used clothes, old broken appliances. Does anyone really buy that garbage? There is a lot of useless junk picked from the trash and not forgetting to mention the hoards of people clustered under the metro, crapping and pissing and doing drugs, forcing you to walk in the street. Seems like a lot of those people just don't know where else to go. Maybe keeping them out will force them to find something better to do. That being said, back home I always say that I am approached by very few straight up beggars. Seems to me, like everyone has something they are trying to exchange for cash. In contrast to many US cities where beggars stand in front of stores and flat out just ask for your change. We even teach our kids to do it. For example, it confuses me when I see teenagers standing outside the grocery store asking for donations for their sports team, benefit or cause. At least girl scouts will sell you 6 cookies in a box that could probably hold twice as many. Who knows what is the right answer? I would love to hear some front line reports what the atmosphere is like down there these days?[/QUOTE]I assume that "back home" where you are approached "by very few straight up beggars" is in the USA or other western, industrialized country. What you wrote reveals a total lack of understanding and absence of compassion for these poor human beings in Medellin. In Colombia, the number of internally displaced people is approximately 4. 9 million. Nearly the population of Colorado. This makes Colombia the second largest internal displacement country in the world next to Sudan. These people do what they can to survive, even selling "useless junk picked from the trash. ." They are trying to survive, doing whatever they can do to continue to live. Man, I get a bad feeling from reading what you say you feel when you view them. Try a little compassion and care, if you're capable.

I don't mean to write disparagingly of your honest conclusion drawn from your observation. I'm almost as sad for you as I am for them.

But, dude, try to find some good energy when you consider those that are so much less fortunate than any of us.

[quote=legal tender; 1334265]i assume that "back home" where you are approached "by very few straight up beggars" is in the usa or other western, industrialized country. what you wrote reveals a total lack of understanding and absence of compassion for these poor human beings in medellin. in colombia, the number of internally displaced people is approximately 4. 9 million. nearly the population of colorado. this makes colombia the second largest internal displacement country in the world next to sudan. these people do what they can to survive, even selling "useless junk picked from the trash." they are trying to survive, doing whatever they can do to continue to live. man, i get a bad feeling from reading what you say you feel when you view them. try a little compassion and care, if you're capable.

i don't mean to write disparagingly of your honest conclusion drawn from your observation. i'm almost as sad for you as i am for them.

but, dude, try to find some good energy when you consider those that are so much less fortunate than any of us.[/quote]geez, man, browbeat much? and while you're heaping guilt on some gringo, the business owner in their own community are probably scraping together money to have these people killed by the police if they grow too large in number (limpieza social=social cleansing).

you don't have to be displaced to be desperate, hell most people in colombia are poor and many are without jobs, support systems, etc. there are many reasons to have compassion but just because the guy doesn't like seeing that desperation and doesn't think it contributes anything to the experience of the city does not make him heartless.

i think an outright ban is bs, it should be phased in, but eventually it will have to happen and hopefully when that time comes fewer people will be resorting to this type of commerce anyway.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1333358]As far as casas go, New Life seems to be a favorite, and yet, Friday near closing time it pretty much sucked, I just cruise from one to the other (theres alot in centro) And you can always find something doable, Refer to the Medellin List thread, There is a few now that are asking a viewing fee, I just walk[/QUOTE]IMO New Life is vastly overused and overrated. Unfortunately a lot of the better casas have shut down or taken a turn for the worse though, at least the good ones in that price range. Honestly though you're dropping 40K there plus extras, a place like Energy or Blue Room will often wind up costing about the same plus no dealing with Centro traffic if you are coming from outside. There are still small gems but they tend to move around. I also think late afternoon on you can find talent in the Centro strip clubs for 50K-100K.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1334284]You don't have to be displaced to be desperate, hell most people in Colombia are poor and many are without jobs, support systems, etc. There are many reasons to have compassion but just because the guy doesn't like seeing that desperation and doesn't think it contributes anything to the experience of the city does not make him heartless.[/QUOTE]You are so right. Colombia is a third world country, and most of the residents live a less than tranquil life. I don't know why our fellow monger's posting really hit me the wrong way. Seeing this desperation absolutely contributes to the experience, though. Medellin is not Poblado. Reality ought to be the goal of any experience. Colombia is such a troubled place. My view is that lack of compassion is the gold standard for determining heartlessness.

Try a little good energy toward everyone. Something that I admit I don't always follow, but when I do, my life is so much better.

On a happier note, I have a couple of new scholarship applicants in Medellin next week. One scholarship recipient, who claims she is a 19 year old virgin, keeps e-mailing me she wants to have sex. I wrote about her before, she the girl that rides from Medellin to Rio Negro every Sunday on her bike. She's is shape. I've been a womanizer all of my life, but I don't feel right about this. Anyone else understand that?

Only good energy,

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1334287]IMO New Life is vastly overused and overrated. Unfortunately a lot of the better casas have shut down or taken a turn for the worse though, at least the good ones in that price range. Honestly though you're dropping 40K there plus extras, a place like Energy or Blue Room will often wind up costing about the same plus no dealing with Centro traffic if you are coming from outside. There are still small gems but they tend to move around. I also think late afternoon on you can find talent in the Centro strip clubs for 50K-100K.[/QUOTE]I'm just back from a trip to Medellin.

I hit the casas 4 times.

Was with 3 chicas total, with one repeat.

Hit the jackpot with one of them, and it wasn't even the repeat one, though she was great.

The jackpot was in an obscure casa, new I believe.
When she presented I nearly fell off the sofa there.

Beautiful girl, great chemestry, fun sex.

Didn't repeat with her, because I got her number and went from there.
Going back to see her at the end of the month.

This may have actually been the most fun trip I've had to Medellin, and I've been there mucho.

From casas, to clubs, to Mansion chicas to Mayo, to non pros, I didn't have one dud chica, not once.

One Mansion chica even came to see me, she wanted taxi money only, of course she's become a friend over the past year or so.

My Mayo favorita came over and spent my last night with me after I tired of the non pro drama, and she helped me pack and stuff.

Also, believe it or not, with another Mayo chica, I took her to one of the better motels around the corner from the strip.
Like a bobo, I unknowingly dropped my wallet on the floor before entering the bathroom.
I was carrying a couple beers, the room key and the TV control along with my wallet in my hands.
Anyway, after several minutes in the bathroom, I come out and this chica hands me my wallet, nothing missing, and I had about 200K in it.
I'm not usually that dumb to not take better care of my wallet, money, etc, but what a cool chica.
This trip was just like that. I had the mongering magic good energy the whole trip.

Great time.

Best advice, as always, learn spanish, as much as you can.

Don't over plan, just a general game plan, be nice and have fun!

Buenas noches amigos, back to Brazil pasado mañana.

I just had 3 of my buddies in and I could not be a tour guide since so I sent them over to "Jinxx". Jinxx speaks perfect Spanish and English perfect since my buddies that came speak about 5% Spanish at best.

For a pretty good fee he took them around to all the casas. Strip clubs etc. Not to mention the Pablo Escobar Tour.

My buddies were VERY pleased and satisfied to have this wingman that is American Latino that could show them around. He introduced them to local "ladies" that he knows and I think you can figure out the rest. LOL.

Just wanted to put this post up for my buddies since they have no clue or members of ISG,

KB151

[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1332715]Hey guys I've been here in Medellin a while and I feel like I have a pretty good handle on the place, so I'd like to offer my services as a tour-guide / wingman. When I first got here I was kind of intimidated and wished I would've had someone help show me around. I speak spanish and I blend in pretty easily so if you're with me it will kind of feel like you're with a local.

Basically what I can do for you is accompany you anywhere you want to go. I know where everything is at. I'll translate and make sure you don't pay too much for any services. I know exactly what to look out for and won't let you get into anything unsafe. I can take you to casas, strip-clubs, bars, street scene, escorts, discotecas, restaurants, pretty much anything you want to do. I like to mix a little bit of the discoteca scene in with the mongering just because the women at the non-pro discotecas are so amazingly beautiful. I can help you approach regular girls and who knows maybe you can hook up with one. And if not oh well, a strip club is only a short taxi ride away. It's all up to you.

My fees are $50usd for daytime hours, $50usd nighttime tour, and $100 for day and night together.

If you're interested pm me with your info. Let me know when you're going to be in town, what kind of accomadations you're looking for (apt rental, hotel) , and give me an idea of what you're looking for. Are you looking for low-end, midrange, top-shelf?

I'll do my best to get everything set up for you and make sure your trip is hassle-free so all you have to do is enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1334335]You are so right. Colombia is a third world country, and most of the residents live a less than tranquil life. I don't know why our fellow monger's posting really hit me the wrong way. Seeing this desperation absolutely contributes to the experience, though. Medellin is not Poblado. Reality ought to be the goal of any experience. Colombia is such a troubled place. My view is that lack of compassion is the gold standard for determining heartlessness.

Try a little good energy toward everyone. Something that I admit I don't always follow, but when I do, my life is so much better.

On a happier note, I have a couple of new scholarship applicants in Medellin next week. One scholarship recipient, who claims she is a 19 year old virgin, keeps e-mailing me she wants to have sex. I wrote about her before, she the girl that rides from Medellin to Rio Negro every Sunday on her bike. She's is shape. I've been a womanizer all of my life, but I don't feel right about this. Anyone else understand that?

Only good energy, [/QUOTE]Well let's see, she's an adult of legal age and she said she WANTS to have sex? What is there to feel bad about? Is it the part of her being a virgin? Just be nice to her and treat her good. I don't see any problem. Do you feel like you're manipulating her? If it doesn't feel right to YOU then don't have sex with her.

It has occured to me that almost every girl seem to lack money, due to genrally low wages, unemployment etc. This makes it hard to distinguish the good one from the barracudas. But if one follow a plan, a strategy, this can minimiza loss of time and money.

We need advice from you Legal Tender. You have found a method that works, while many of us still fumble in the Darkness Of Cultural Misconception.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1334335]You are so right. Colombia is a third world country, and most of the residents live a less than tranquil life. I don't know why our fellow monger's posting really hit me the wrong way. Seeing this desperation absolutely contributes to the experience, though. Medellin is not Poblado. Reality ought to be the goal of any experience. Colombia is such a troubled place. My view is that lack of compassion is the gold standard for determining heartlessness.

Try a little good energy toward everyone. Something that I admit I don't always follow, but when I do, my life is so much better.

On a happier note, I have a couple of new scholarship applicants in Medellin next week. One scholarship recipient, who claims she is a 19 year old virgin, keeps e-mailing me she wants to have sex. I wrote about her before, she the girl that rides from Medellin to Rio Negro every Sunday on her bike. She's is shape. I've been a womanizer all of my life, but I don't feel right about this. Anyone else understand that?

Only good energy, [/QUOTE]Legal Tender Colombia is NOT a third world country. Have you ever been to a third world country? I am guessing not, it is alot more different to Colombia.

The terms First, Second, and Third Worlds are obsolete and have been for quite some time. No one really agreed on who was where and what it meant. Colombia is a "developing country." First, Second, and Third were rather ethnocentric terms which, given the often jingoistic nature of the more developed countries' foreign policy toward them, weren't too popular in places like Colombia. A good example of jingoistic US policy towards Colombia would be the Hay-Herráand Treaty of 1903. This comprises the root of the instinctive dislike that many Colombians have for the US.

A lot of what some call the Third World would have been the First World if the Spaniards hadn't come in and fucked them all up with bullionism. The Mexica and the Inca were much more developed than those who invaded them.

Maybe the wording of my previous post was confusing.

"Back home". Beggars tend to ask for money with nothing in exchange. I tried to clarify that by making the cutting reference about teaching kids to stand in front of supermarkets and praised girls scouts for cutely ripping us off with their over priced over packaged snacks.

In Medellin, it has been my experience, most people on the street want to make some kind of exchange with you for money. Respect.

However, the recent events in El Centro have occurred in part because it is already dangerous.

I'm no social analyst or economist. I will try to be concise, since admittedly, these are the opinions of a layman. Maintaining the status quo doesn't seem like a good solution. Yet, making a change is going to cause some grief. It is simply impossible to make everyone happy. Fact is, its a designated business environment. Regardless of whether or not someone is there just trying to survive. Public drug use, urination, defecation and peddling in the streets intimidates others from peacefully going about their business and from simply getting from point A to B. If I ruled the world there would be only one law. If what you are doing purposely, directly, negatively and unwillingly impacts another within a 5 yard radius, you can't do it. Obviously that was facetious. Point is something should be done for the improvement, development, enhancement and safety of Medellin as a whole. My compassion is immense. I love Medellin.

My feelings aside, I've spoken to a few people who live there and those few have all played the recent events down. I know this a monger forum but hopefully we will continue to receive front line updates since this topic undoubtedly impacts the environment as a whole.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1334265]I assume that "back home" where you are approached "by very few straight up beggars" is in the USA or other western, industrialized country. What you wrote reveals a total lack of understanding and absence of compassion for these poor human beings in Medellin. In Colombia, the number of internally displaced people is approximately 4. 9 million. Nearly the population of Colorado. This makes Colombia the second largest internal displacement country in the world next to Sudan. These people do what they can to survive, even selling "useless junk picked from the trash." They are trying to survive, doing whatever they can do to continue to live. Man, I get a bad feeling from reading what you say you feel when you view them. Try a little compassion and care, if you're capable.

I don't mean to write disparagingly of your honest conclusion drawn from your observation. I'm almost as sad for you as I am for them.

But, dude, try to find some good energy when you consider those that are so much less fortunate than any of us.[/QUOTE]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but are there any Casas in or near by El Poblado? I have looked at the Medellin list and the handy google map, but they seem clustered around El Centro. There should be some decent places in El Poblao right?

Thanks!

I visited Medellin in September. I played in Chica punto com, Energy, New life. It was fun. Although I think I'll visit again at the end of the year, do you go home Everyone girls?

[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1334811]The terms First, Second, and Third Worlds are obsolete and have been for quite some time. No one really agreed on who was where and what it meant. Colombia is a "developing country." First, Second, and Third were rather ethnocentric terms which, given the often jingoistic nature of the more developed countries' foreign policy toward them, weren't too popular in places like Colombia. A good example of jingoistic US policy towards Colombia would be the Hay-Herráand Treaty of 1903. This comprises the root of the instinctive dislike that many Colombians have for the US.

A lot of what some call the Third World would have been the First World if the Spaniards hadn't come in and fucked them all up with bullionism. The Mexica and the Inca were much more developed than those who invaded them.[/QUOTE]I had to look up a couple of words, e. G,"jingoistic" and refresh myself on the hay-Herraand non-treaty before I could write this response. Dickhead is a prolific poster and I've read many of his reports on his exploits in South and Central America. A stalwart among us fellow mongers. I'm glad he took the time to post here.

Dickhead, my use of first, second and third world terminology was sloppy and imprecise. Colombia is a developing country with one of the strongest economies in Sur America. The USA senate ratified the Hay-Herraand Treaty, by which Colombia would have given the USA the land on which the Panama canal was eventually built. The Colombians didn't ratify the treaty, so the USA supported a pro USA revolution in Panama, and the result was an "independent" Panama and USA control over the canal.

The USA imperialistic attitude toward Colombia (and every other country) continues. Plan Colombia is highly unpopular among Colombians and has resulted in all kind of chaos in Colombia. Let's face it. In common parlance, the USA is a bully and that is not a paradigm for friendly relations based on mutual interest and respect. The Colombia Free Trade Agreement has yet to play out, but it will decimate the small Colombian farmer. It still perplexes me that such a beautiful country, with some of the most beautiful and sensual women in the world, has always existed in a vortex of violence and insecurity. To enjoy and appreciate Colombia, one has to learn a bit about the countries' history and as Ricker always advises, learn some Spanish.

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1334804]Legal Tender Colombia is NOT a third world country. Have you ever been to a third world country? I am guessing not, it is alot more different to Colombia.[/QUOTE]I have been to what I think everyone will agree is the poorest among some of the poorest. I've helped a couple of young men from Malawi study in the United States. I just use Malawi as an example to contrast with Colombia since I've experienced both. You and Dickhead appropriately corrected my sloppy use of words.

Only good energy, SD

[QUOTE=Liveheree; 1335252]Sorry if this has been asked before, but are there any Casas in or near by El Poblado? I have looked at the Medellin list and the handy google map, but they seem clustered around El Centro. There should be some decent places in El Poblao right?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Centro de Masajes Pekin, Calle 10A # 43A-31, Apt 201, El Poblado. 3 Chicas. Prices: 70k 45 min, Playboy session 150k 30 min. Tel: 268 64 22. Hours: 10am to 8pm. From an old posting, prices are up a bit, and the 3 or 4 girls working there fall into the MILF catagory

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1335378]I have been to what I think everyone will agree is the poorest among some of the poorest. I've helped a couple of young men from Malawi study in the United States. I just use Malawi as an example to contrast with Colombia since I've experienced both. You and Dickhead appropriately corrected my sloppy use of words.

Only good energy, SD[/QUOTE]I'd better keep my mouth shut about Colombia! I've backpacked around Malawi also, only good energy.

A. G.

Another America hater. Americans are always the ones causing the problems, right? Imperialists? Give me a break.

Plan Colombia was a Colombian initiative. USA has pumped billions into Colombia to fight the FARC and the narco traffickers. Much of that money has also gone into infrastructure and human development.

I do think the free trade agreement will ultimately be beneficial to Colombia but there will be a lot of internal displacement as a result. One of the reasons the Colombian economy has been growing a such a rapid rate is that the country has extensive free trade agreements with the EU, China and other Latin American counties.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1335376]I

The USA imperialistic attitude toward Colombia (and every other country) continues. Plan Colombia is highly unpopular among Colombians and has resulted in all kind of chaos in Colombia. Let's face it. In common parlance, the USA is a bully and that is not a paradigm for friendly relations based on mutual interest and respect. The Colombia Free Trade Agreement has yet to play out, but it will decimate the small Colombian farmer. It still perplexes me that such a beautiful country, with some of the most beautiful and sensual women in the world, has always existed in a vortex of violence and insecurity. To enjoy and appreciate Colombia, one has to learn a bit about the countries' history and as Ricker always advises, learn some Spanish.[/QUOTE]

Those journals cover much of American foreign policy.

Of course America is imperalistic with military installations in more than 100 countries.

But America pays a high economical and political price for this engagement, even if it is beneficial to countries as Colombia and cities like Medellin.

There is no other way to handle the complex world, the isolationism 1920-41 is not an option, US allies are simply to weak, can't act because of their history or simply refuse, leaving the US no other choise than to act.

Back to Medellin.

The city is more like two worlds, Medellin and the suburbs. The first world and the third world in one. Even the languages is so different between the pure Castellano and the suburbs dialects (that it is hard to understand) so even with the Metrocable it is difficult for poor people to advance, speaking suburb dialect will exclude you from all finer social groups. Social stratas are very distinct in Colombia. There will "always" be a big proletariat, thus making the term "The Third World" relevant.

If one refrain to extrapolate Colombias current GNP-growth and looks at it's current GNP statistics Colombia is in the middle in Latinamerica with US$ 10, 000 per capita, Argentina has +17, 000, Bolivia 4, 900.

[url]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html[/url]

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[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1335420]I'd better keep my mouth shut about Colombia! I've backpacked around Malawi also, only good energy.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Come on Greg, everyone always appreciates your perspective on Colombia.

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1335434]Another America hater. Americans are always the ones causing the problems, right? Imperialists? Give me a break.

Plan Colombia was a Colombian initiative. USA has pumped billions into Colombia to fight the FARC and the narco traffickers. Much of that money has also gone into infrastructure and human development.

I do think the free trade agreement will ultimately be beneficial to Colombia but there will be a lot of internal displacement as a result. One of the reasons the Colombian economy has been growing a such a rapid rate is that the country has extensive free trade agreements with the EU, China and other Latin American counties.[/QUOTE]My observations and opinions are not emotional. I don't hate anyone, much less my country. It has many attributes, but reality is reality. Plan Colombia may have been endorsed by the powers that be in Colombia, but it has been devastating to many poor, hard working Colombians that are simply trying to feed their family. I suggest you read,"Beyond Bogota" by Gary Leech and / or Robin Kirk's "More Terrible than Death: Drugs, Violence, and America's War in Colombia."

I am not suggesting that the Colombian Free Trade Agreement won't benefit many Colombians. I imagine the costs of arepa will decline because USA produced grains will flood into Colombia. The efficiency of USA farmers can't be competed with by the Colombian small (and inefficient) farmers.

Bottom line, Colombia is America's bit*h in South America. The Fair Trade Agreement was agreed to without any addressing of the oppression of the Colombian labor leaders. I love America. But it's imperialistic foreign policy is unsound, immoral, and in the end, unproductive.

Hey, I advocate good energy not oppression and dominance.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1334755]It has occured to me that almost every girl seem to lack money, due to genrally low wages, unemployment etc. This makes it hard to distinguish the good one from the barracudas. But if one follow a plan, a strategy, this can minimiza loss of time and money.

We need advice from you Legal Tender. You have found a method that works, while many of us still fumble in the Darkness Of Cultural Misconception.[/QUOTE]I really can't give advice to anyone, but I'll be pleased to share my thoughts and experiences. We read continually about those of us that see the Girl Friend Experience (GFE). To that end, there are the undefined categories of prepago, semi-pro, and "normal" girls. I don't buy into that delineation, all adult females are sex workers in one form or another. There is no such thing as free pussy, they all want something. Maybe it's as simple and direct as a few COPs or lifetime commitment.

If one wants a real GFE, you have to understand that it takes agreement of two people. There is no such thing as a "no strings attached" relationship. Everything is subject to discussion and agreement. Clearly, most girls in Medellin are very open to having a sponsor. I have no interest in a girl that sees material things in exchange for attention and affection. They are simply unworthy of time and treasure. I like smart girls that are serious about their education and have some passion in life for what they will be doing after obtaining a degree. To those who feel monogamy is important, I know several girls that are simply not diverting their attention and time to anything that isn't related to their studies. No discos, no drugs, no novio. It's easy to make their dream, you're dream: to see them educated, independent and successful.

In order to make this idea realistic, one has to be able to spend some time in Colombia. Coming to Medellin for a week each year won't do it. These kind of girls are really easy to find. I've got some university professors that recommend recipients for scholarship opportunities, but Facebook is a great asset. Just makes FB friends with a few Piasas and soon many of their friends will want to get to know the "yankee."

My experience has been that karma kicks in almost every time. Understand the financial commitment, and stick to it. If you take an interest in one of these girls and want to see a good one be able to go to a university, the response is not only heart warming, but results in a beautiful young woman WANTING to give you all of the physical pleasure that she can give. Works for me.

Really, my way of spreading good energy and receiving the benefit of doing somethings that are not entirely egoistic.

Just decide what kind of girl you want to spend time with. Of course, as shallow as it is, she's got to be hotter than a two dollar pistol. Those with kids are problematic simply because they're too damn needy. I highly recommend a serious university student.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1335378]I have been to what I think everyone will agree is the poorest among some of the poorest. I've helped a couple of young men from Malawi study in the United States. I just use Malawi as an example to contrast with Colombia since I've experienced both. You and Dickhead appropriately corrected my sloppy use of words.

Only good energy, SD[/QUOTE]No problem buddy, sorry if my reply to your post sounded alittle blunt. Was having a bad day then I read you calling Colombia third world. All good energy.

The both are great read.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1335477]I suggest you read,"Beyond Bogota" by Gary Leech and / or Robin Kirk's "More Terrible than Death: Drugs, Violence, and America's War in Colombia." .[/QUOTE]

As I said before, I have no problem with what you are doing. But I think it is entirely egoistic. It is a "payment" rather than "scholarship." Thanks.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1335485]Really, my way of spreading good energy and receiving the benefit of doing somethings that are not entirely egoistic.[/QUOTE]

Legal,

The cocaine trade wholly originated in Colombia and was exploited by Colombians and has created incredible wealth for many there. Without that trade, US involvement in that country would be minimal.

The USA is actually late to the game in terms of trade with Colombia. Free trade is inevitable and irreversible for all countries.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1335477]My observations and opinions are not emotional. I don't hate anyone, much less my country. It has many attributes, but reality is reality. Plan Colombia may have been endorsed by the powers that be in Colombia, but it has been devastating to many poor, hard working Colombians that are simply trying to feed their family. I suggest you read,"Beyond Bogota" by Gary Leech and / or Robin Kirk's "More Terrible than Death: Drugs, Violence, and America's War in Colombia."

I am not suggesting that the Colombian Free Trade Agreement won't benefit many Colombians. I imagine the costs of arepa will decline because USA produced grains will flood into Colombia. The efficiency of USA farmers can't be competed with by the Colombian small (and inefficient) farmers.

Bottom line, Colombia is America's bit*h in South America. The Fair Trade Agreement was agreed to without any addressing of the oppression of the Colombian labor leaders. I love America. But it's imperialistic foreign policy is unsound, immoral, and in the end, unproductive.

Hey, I advocate good energy not oppression and dominance.[/QUOTE]

Matt from Alaska came and went with no problems whatsoever! He has a very nice things going with Carolina whom keeps him from partying too hard, photo's at the [url]www.Colombiajake.com[/url]. The girls I try to provide and or meet with you are not full time pro's, no they are girls that are usually a lot of fun and when they meet the right guy there is interest in a relationship which is what happened with Matt. It doesn't happen that often but those two are definitely into each other and she stay's with him the entire time he's here. She took us to her casa high in the hills and showed us the new big sink to wash clothes in and a wall that was going up. I told Matt the second story will be named after him because he certainly financed the new things we saw, but it made him feel good to help out and see where his money was going! He left a few days ago and Fernando whom is also in my photo's arrives Friday. He likes to stay at his favorite place but we have a lot of fun working the girls in Centro together and later exploring nice places to eat and see at night in out of the way places like La Doctora near Sabaneta and finish up with a cutie if he has any energy left!

Jake

Anyone in Medellin right now that wants to go check Mayorista or some of the strip clubs tonight?

I nearlly shed a tear in happyness for Matt and Carolina but after giving it some thought, what a fucken idiot.
He's been milked, but hey, lets blame the Colombia Free Trade Agreement and PLAN COLOMBIA.
A. G.

[QUOTE=Colombia Jake; 1335759]Matt from Alaska came and went with no problems whatsoever! He has a very nice things going with Carolina whom keeps him from partying too hard, photo's at the.

[url]www.Colombiajake.com[/url]

The girls I try to provide and or meet with you are not full time pro's, no they are girls that are usually a lot of fun and when they meet the right guy there is interest in a relationship which is what happened with Matt. It doesn't happen that often but those two are definitely into each other and she stay's with him the entire time he's here. She took us to her casa high in the hills and showed us the new big sink to wash clothes in and a wall that was going up. I told Matt the second story will be named after him because he certainly financed the new things we saw, but it made him feel good to help out and see where his money was going! He left a few days ago and Fernando whom is also in my photo's arrives Friday. He likes to stay at his favorite place but we have a lot of fun working the girls in Centro together and later exploring nice places to eat and see at night in out of the way places like La Doctora near Sabaneta and finish up with a cutie if he has any energy left!

Jake[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1335856]I nearlly shed a tear in happyness for Matt and Carolina but after giving it some thought, what a fucken idiot.

He's been milked, but hey, lets blame the Colombia Free Trade Agreement and PLAN COLOMBIA.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Aussie, have a little compassion, amigo. Matt thinks he found one that fits. We all know that pussy can be more addictive than cocaine. He'll be ok if he keeps his expectations at zero. We only have what we are experiencing in the moment.

Think good energy!

[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1335741]Legal,

The cocaine trade wholly originated in Colombia and was exploited by Colombians and has created incredible wealth for many there. Without that trade, US involvement in that country would be minimal.

The USA is actually late to the game in terms of trade with Colombia. Free trade is inevitable and irreversible for all countries.[/QUOTE]The drug trade has not diminished one bit since the yankee's decided to be Colombia's daddy. The public officials in all of Sur America are corrupt, and many are neck deep in the drug trade. The USA is involved in Colombia to protect US interest there. United Fruit, for example, and because of Hugo Chavez and the anti-american government in Bolivia. Colombia is to South America what Taiwan is to China, in a sense. The Colombian Constitutional Court recently held that the government's program to allow US troops to be stationed at Colombian army bases was unconstitutional. We're bullies and that why many Colombians hold the US in contempt. The boiling of discontent, especially among the young at public universities in Colombia, could erupt at any time.

I didn't say that the Colombian Fair Trade agreement was not beneficial to both countries, on balance. I'm just saying that the Colombian government is leaving the soon to be displaced farmers out to dry, so to speak. Colombia has the second largest number of internally displaced citizens, exceeded only by Sudan. One in ten Colombians have been driven off their land by the leftist or para militaries, and now there will be more. Where's the social justice in that? Hey, karma works for countries, too. We Yankees are getting some bad karma, that's all.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1335856]I nearlly shed a tear in happyness for Matt and Carolina but after giving it some thought, what a fucken idiot.

He's been milked, but hey, lets blame the Colombia Free Trade Agreement and PLAN COLOMBIA.

A. G.[/QUOTE]. Dr. Dre;"You can't make a ho a house wife"

If dude feel like he has a connection with this chick and he's not suffering financially to build her and her family a house. Good Luck to him. His money his life.

Can we get some real reports going?

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1335856]I nearlly shed a tear in happyness for Matt and Carolina but after giving it some thought, what a fucken idiot.

He's been milked, but hey, lets blame the Colombia Free Trade Agreement and PLAN COLOMBIA.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Any kind of "masking" the situation, non pro, semi pro, only did it a few times, student, Bullshit! Any girls who take money for sex is a prepago period! Obviously there are different levels of putas, I'm not saying she's a mayorista or casa girl. But you think you've found the "one"? Think again! YOU JUST TRY to keep her under wraps until your next visit! It's not going to happen no matter what you try! The #1 goal for a colombiana is making money and a very close #2 is partying their asses off! Best bet is to enjoy them while you have them there in front of you because it's not worth worrying about what their doing when your not there! Take it from a guy who will be celebrating 8 years going to Colombia next March! Jack off Jake has his little harem of putas who he claims Matt and Carolina really hit it off, until the NEXT JOHN comes into town and then what?"Fred and Carolina" really hit it off? Lmfao!

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1335923]We're bullies and that why many Colombians hold the US in contempt. The boiling of discontent, especially among the young at public universities in Colombia, could erupt at any time.[/QUOTE]You're full of it. Most Colombians I have met like Americans. I have several who work for me and live here by choice. Its left wing weenies like you that give the USA a bad name.

Why so much bad energy?

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lt, i got to agree with estebanh, the leftists are pissed because they carnt win, your little one included.

as with the displaced peasants, the government has just started to confirep001e many properties that the paraco's / farc and eln got for nothing and are in the process of giving it back.

i personally think the free trade agreement will hurt the big business familys more than the people who are struggelling, for me the price of cars and electrical goods will i hope be affected and reduced.

a. g.

[quote=estebanh; 1336086]you're full of it. most colombians i have met like americans. i have several who work for me and live here by choice. its left wing weenies like you that give the usa a bad name.

why so much bad energy?[/quote]

I don't know too much about trade agreement, I wish the

I don't know much About free trade, but I wish the P@ssy Was free.

P#

Free Trade is a recipe for disaster. The drive for efficiency / market economy etc means more unemployment locally while exporting work for Asians / Orientals. The end result is you get to pay $1 less for your plastic toy but destroy your national economy.

For those of you who want to do the rah rah sis boom bah bullshit, I will quote Ulysses S Grant,

" For centuries England has relied on protectionism, has carried it to extremes, and has obtained satisfactory results from it. There is no doubt that it is to his system that it owes its present strength. After two centuries, England has found it convenient to adopt free trade because it thinks that protection can no longer offer it anything. Very well then, gentlemen, my knowledge of our country leads me to believe that within two hundred years, when America has gotten out of protection all that it can offer, it too will adopt free trade.

The shoe is now on the other foot!

Free trade maximizes worldwide wealth under three main theories: comparative advantage (David Ricardo as refined by the Heckscher-Ollin model), economies of scale, and product differentiation. The first theory can be conclusively proven mathematically (at least to me), the second theory can be proven mathematically with some assumptions that I am pretty much okay with, and the third makes logical sense.

But, just because free trade maximizes worldwide wealth doesn't mean there aren't individual winners and losers. For example, Colombia might have a relative abundance of labor to capital. It will have a comparative advantage in labor intensive products and that is what will be exported. This will drive up wages due to increased production of the export product. When the exports are paid for, Colombia will have relatively more capital. That will drive down returns to capital. Labor benefits and capital loses, while the importing country will see the opposite benefit, to capital which is becoming more scarce as the imports are paid for. But, with completely free trade, Hecksher-Ollin shows that the benefit to labor will be greater than the loss to capital, (and the opposite in the importing country) and both countries benefit overall.

So with completely free trade, all countries are better off as a whole, but some groups within the countries lose. If you start adding tariffs, it gets more complicated. Then you can have entire winner countries and entire loser countries. But, the winner countries win more than the loser countries lose, as compared to no trade at all.

Grant, whose presidency was a financial disaster, notwithstanding, Latin America's persistent protectionist urges are mere populism and have been just as deleterious to the region as Spain's protectionist policies were 400 years ago. Probably the single biggest factor in creating the widespread poverty in the region.

BTW visa requirements act like a tariff on imported pussy.

I hate to bore other members, but some thoughts. The theory of comparative advantage is an "inter" national theory without an indication for "intra" national relationship. The theory does not explain how a nation and its people would, or did, find / focuse on the goods they have comparative advantage of. The theory simply presumes that nations do by assuming single, unitary, and rational nations, without sub-national units. Also, as for economy of scale, it will increase competition, which would enhance the quality of goods and services. But, as you indicated, nations will lose jobs and business in the areas they do not have comparative advantage of. Again, my apology to other members for this non-mongering post, and I do not wish to receive responses from the usual antagonists. I will post a report soon. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1337412]Free trade maximizes worldwide wealth under three main theories: comparative advantage (David Ricardo as refined by the Heckscher-Ollin model) , economies of scale, and product differentiation. The first theory can be conclusively proven mathematically (at least to me) , the second theory can be proven mathematically with some assumptions that I am pretty much okay with, and the third makes logical sense.

But, just because free trade maximizes worldwide wealth doesn't mean there aren't individual winners and losers. For example, Colombia might have a relative abundance of labor to capital. It will have a comparative advantage in labor intensive products and that is what will be exported. This will drive up wages due to increased production of the export product. When the exports are paid for, Colombia will have relatively more capital. That will drive down returns to capital. Labor benefits and capital loses, while the importing country will see the opposite benefit, to capital which is becoming more scarce as the imports are paid for. But, with completely free trade, Hecksher-Ollin shows that the benefit to labor will be greater than the loss to capital, (and the opposite in the importing country) and both countries benefit overall.

So with completely free trade, all countries are better off as a whole, but some groups within the countries lose. If you start adding tariffs, it gets more complicated. Then you can have entire winner countries and entire loser countries. But, the winner countries win more than the loser countries lose, as compared to no trade at all.

Grant, whose presidency was a financial disaster, notwithstanding, Latin America's persistent protectionist urges are mere populism and have been just as deleterious to the region as Spain's protectionist policies were 400 years ago. Probably the single biggest factor in creating the widespread poverty in the region.

BTW visa requirements act like a tariff on imported pussy.[/QUOTE]

I wanted to ask is this hotel close as in walking distance to the clubs and casas or do you need a taxi? I am not new to mongering just new to Colombia and would appreciate this info. I will be meeting a chica and she will be staying with me in whatever hotel I choose, but I will leave open a night or two for myself to venture out and have some fun.

Hecksher-Ollin says worldwide factor prices will tell them where their comparative advantages are. That is what H-O added to Ricardo. You have to have some reasonable possibility of factor mobility (emigration and capital flows) and usually you do, so the model is valid under a lot of different conditions.

A Colombian friend asked me to bring him an expensive camera from the US. Am I going to have to pay some customs fee?

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1335923]The drug trade has not diminished one bit since the yankee's decided to be Colombia's daddy. The public officials in all of Sur America are corrupt, and many are neck deep in the drug trade. The USA is involved in Colombia to protect US interest there. United Fruit, for example, and because of Hugo Chavez and the anti-american government in Bolivia. Colombia is to South America what Taiwan is to China, in a sense. The Colombian Constitutional Court recently held that the government's program to allow US troops to be stationed at Colombian army bases was unconstitutional. We're bullies and that why many Colombians hold the US in contempt. The boiling of discontent, especially among the young at public universities in Colombia, could erupt at any time.

I didn't say that the Colombian Fair Trade agreement was not beneficial to both countries, on balance. I'm just saying that the Colombian government is leaving the soon to be displaced farmers out to dry, so to speak. Colombia has the second largest number of internally displaced citizens, exceeded only by Sudan. One in ten Colombians have been driven off their land by the leftist or para militaries, and now there will be more. Where's the social justice in that? Hey, karma works for countries, too. We Yankees are getting some bad karma, that's all.[/QUOTE]This is almost more annoying than your usual Sandusky sponsering.

Some countries have got no comparative advantage in anything but pussy. They have to give up their independence to be subsidized forever. Hope it never materializes and we continue travel to poor shitholes. My airfare is probably a subsidy already.

[QUOTE=Hanshin Baka;1337465]This is almost more annoying than your usual Sandusky sponsering.[/QUOTE]Guys, trust me, no one cares about trade agreements. With all due respect, the political ideas posted by a mongerer, posted on a sex site, are never going to be taken seriously by anyone but yourselves.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1337458]A Colombian friend asked me to bring him an expensive camera from the US. Am I going to have to pay some customs fee?[/QUOTE]Take it out of the box and any plastic wrapping and throw away the manuals (or bring them the next time) and it will look like your personal camera. The manual should be available online (usually as a pdf file) from the manufacturer's website.

[QUOTE=Nabru;1337538]Take it out of the box and any plastic wrapping and throw away the manuals (or bring them the next time) and it will look like your personal camera. The manual should be available online (usually as a pdf file) from the manufacturer's website.[/QUOTE]Absolutely NOT necessary. Leave it in the box. He will NOT be charged a customs fee for bringing in ONE camera as a gift.

I figure I can explain I am a photographer but still.

I have not found any specific information online about what you are required to declare when entering Colombia.

Has anyone here ever been stopped at customs and actually had to pay?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Nabru;1337538]Take it out of the box and any plastic wrapping and throw away the manuals (or bring them the next time) and it will look like your personal camera. The manual should be available online (usually as a pdf file) from the manufacturer's website.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1337598]I figure I can explain I am a photographer but still.

I have not found any specific information online about what you are required to declare when entering Colombia.

Has anyone here ever been stopped at customs and actually had to pay?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Nabru's adivice is good but your over thinking things too much, I have brought dozens of cameras into the Colombia still in the box and given them away to girls and they were all still in the box [ back when digital cameras were a big deal lmfao], I usually have 3 cameras of my own I use for pics one waterproof with floatable handle, one for daytime and one for a night, the one at night is usually a cheap one.

[QUOTE=Forest;1337473]Guys, trust me, no one cares about trade agreements. With all due respect, the political ideas posted by a mongerer, posted on a sex site, are never going to be taken seriously by anyone but yourselves.[/QUOTE]Boy is that the truth!

If you just have to vent about economics, trade agreements and other such topics that most guys quickly pass over, at least put them in the general area.

Like Forest says, does anyone really open the ISG wondering what guys are thinking about Trade agreements? Doubt it.

Of course good advice about traveling and customs, etc is always helpful info.

Have fun out there!

[QUOTE=Mardonius;1337445]I wanted to ask is this hotel close as in walking distance to the clubs and casas or do you need a taxi? I am not new to mongering just new to Colombia and would appreciate this info. I will be meeting a chica and she will be staying with me in whatever hotel I choose, but I will leave open a night or two for myself to venture out and have some fun.[/QUOTE]You'd need a taxi to go everywhere. Stay in El Centro or La Mayorista if you want some action on the side and if you do not want to pay a fortune on taxi fare.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1337848]You'd need a taxi to go everywhere. Stay in El Centro or La Mayorista if you want some action on the side and if you do not want to pay a fortune on taxi fare.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I look at the casa map and I see a lot of the casa close together so I am assuming that is el centro. My question is about this El Polblado area because that is the area that chica is trying to steer me to as far as hotel she is saying that it is nice and it has nice clubs and restaurants etc. Now does that put me much farther away from the clubs and places I may want to check out?

Your hotel is in a very good area. I wouldn't change the hotel. Centro is not far from Poblado. Appro. 3-4 miles and 10-15 mnts by taxi (about US$4). I usually stay in El Centro or Mayorista because I do not seek non-pro actions. For you and your amiga, Poblado is better.

[QUOTE=Mardonius;1337968]I look at the casa map and I see a lot of the casa close together so I am assuming that is el centro. My question is about this El Polblado area because that is the area that chica is trying to steer me to as far as hotel she is saying that it is nice and it has nice clubs and restaurants etc. Now does that put me much farther away from the clubs and places I may want to check out?[/QUOTE]

Actually I'm not sure about cameras. I was just repeating the instructions a friend of mine had given me before bringing him a new laptop computer to Medellin, just in case I got the red light before leaving the baggage claim area.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1338025]Your hotel is in a very good area. I wouldn't change the hotel. Centro is not far from Poblado. Appro. 3-4 miles and 10-15 mnts by taxi (about US$4). I usually stay in El Centro or Mayorista because I do not seek non-pro actions. For you and your amiga, Poblado is better.[/QUOTE]Thanks you for the info I will do that

[QUOTE=Nabru;1338067]Actually I'm not sure about cameras. I was just repeating the instructions a friend of mine had given me before bringing him a new laptop computer to Medellin, just in case I got the red light before leaving the baggage claim area.[/QUOTE]Even if you DID get a red light at customs, they would NOT charge you for bringing into the country ONE laptop computer, even if it was in the box, or even wrapped as a Christmas present. Trust me, I have 90 plus entries into Colombia over the last 14 years.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1336032]Any kind of "masking" the situation, non pro, semi pro, only did it a few times, student, Bullshit! Any girls who take money for sex is a prepago period! Obviously there are different levels of putas, I'm not saying she's a mayorista or casa girl. But you think you've found the "one"? Think again! YOU JUST TRY to keep her under wraps until your next visit! It's not going to happen no matter what you try! The #1 goal for a colombiana is making money and a very close #2 is partying their asses off! Best bet is to enjoy them while you have them there in front of you because it's not worth worrying about what their doing when your not there! Take it from a guy who will be celebrating 8 years going to Colombia next March! Jack off Jake has his little harem of putas who he claims Matt and Carolina really hit it off, until the NEXT JOHN comes into town and then what?"Fred and Carolina" really hit it off? Lmfao![/QUOTE]Take it from another 8 year seasoned Veteran to Medellin, everything is fair in Love and War. The short test came when I had another client come in before Matt's last visit and yes, I tried to see if she wanted to meet him but, she said no she was waiting for Matt, and even if he gave something for her time he's having a girlfriend experience that beats anything he's going to have in the USA. For the vast majority of guys who come and go here, its nothing but some seasoned Pro sitting around waiting in the lobby for nothing more than the usual empty business in and out. With me a least you have a chance of something more than a business transaction. It may not work long term with Matt and Carolina who knows but, I can tell you its not in my best interest for my guys to come here and fall in love! Why? Because then you don't need me anymore now do you? I put up a couple new photo's as well as my other trips and the women I found along the way on ColombiaJake. Com

[QUOTE=Jinxx;1333296]Well I stepped out of my hotel in el centro today. Right into the middle of a f*cking riot! I've never seen so many cops in my life. People running all over the place. Shit was crazy![/QUOTE]For those of you who may have an interest in mongering, which appears deminimus since I just waded through 5 pages of political and economic coffee house chit chat to find even one post germaine to the subject of sex, the following link gives some clarification to the riots of two weeks ago.

For anyone who mongers in El Centro and / or is concerned about his personal security, this article is required reading. Note that the article starts by interviewing a working girl in front of the Vera Cruz church.

[url]http://www.elcolombiano.com/BancoConocimiento/E/el_crimen_del_centro_se_maneja_desde_la_periferia/el_crimen_del_centro_se_maneja_desde_la_periferia.asp?CodSeccion=211[/url]

I have been to many of the centro casas, checked out the centro strip clubs, and went to the high end strip clubs like fase dos, san diego, etc.

I can find hot girls in the casas with enough time, and the price is great, but there is no kissing or making out, and the whole experience is so down to business it gets really boring after a while. I suggested a propina to one girl for kissing, and she seemed okay with that, but was then just unable to really change her mentality. And I am not a gross or ugly guy. That said, I'm not sure I should make out with such frequently used girls anways.

On the other hand, I had one girl from an expensive strip club that was reasonably GFE (kissing at least) , but the costs add up so fast there, and the whole scene can be a hassle to identify and get the attention of the right girl. And I don't know there is any assurance the girls will perform better than casa girls anyways.

So where can you find "midrange" girls that will kiss and make out and give the slightest bit of sensuality? To be clear, I am not looking for a pretend girlfriend to hang out with for a week, just someone for a few hours who acts like a nighttime working girl in other monger places around the world, instead of a brothel girl. Also, I do not want to move to the Mansion, and don't want to hire some local gringo to introduce me to all his old prepagos. And the girl has to be hot, to my tastes. The great thing with casas is you can see 30-40 girls, then choose one.

So does this scene exist, or is it all restricted to the Mansion and local guys with their networks?

Are the high end casas any better? I checked out Energy once, and heard a list of all the restrictions that came with 30 minutes, but don't quite understand if they act differently for 1 hour.

I have not been to Mayorista yet. Since I now know where to find hot casa girls, it hasnt seemed worth it given that casas are so cheap, and safer, simpler and closer. But maybe I am missing out? Hard for me to believe streetwalkers would be more passionate but who knows.

I had considered inviting a casa girl to my hotel one night, but I don't want to see them after they have been working all day. 6 days a week, and it is hard for me to deal with all the hassle when I know how cheaply and simply I can get them back in the casa.

So is there any way to find girls that give something similar to Mansion service (or just not the cold brothel service) without staying there? I am happy to pay more than the casa prices, but it just isn't clear where the next level up really is.

Thank you.

Do you really expect GFE from someone you are paying $17 for and is banging men all day. I think you need to set appropriate expectations.

I really believe that the best strategy for believable GFE is developing relationships over multiple visits and via Facebook / Skype prior to visiting. Eventually, you will find girls who actually might enjoy being with you in addition to the money.

[QUOTE=Zero1; 1338955]I have been to many of the centro casas, checked out the centro strip clubs, and went to the high end strip clubs like fase dos, san diego, etc.

I can find hot girls in the casas with enough time, and the price is great, but there is no kissing or making out, and the whole experience is so down to business it gets really boring after a while. I suggested a propina to one girl for kissing, and she seemed okay with that, but was then just unable to really change her mentality. And I am not a gross or ugly guy. That said, I'm not sure I should make out with such frequently used girls anways.

On the other hand, I had one girl from an expensive strip club that was reasonably GFE (kissing at least) , but the costs add up so fast there, and the whole scene can be a hassle to identify and get the attention of the right girl. And I don't know there is any assurance the girls will perform better than casa girls anyways.

So where can you find "midrange" girls that will kiss and make out and give the slightest bit of sensuality? To be clear, I am not looking for a pretend girlfriend to hang out with for a week, just someone for a few hours who acts like a nighttime working girl in other monger places around the world, instead of a brothel girl. Also, I do not want to move to the Mansion, and don't want to hire some local gringo to introduce me to all his old prepagos. And the girl has to be hot, to my tastes. The great thing with casas is you can see 30-40 girls, then choose one.

So does this scene exist, or is it all restricted to the Mansion and local guys with their networks?

Are the high end casas any better? I checked out Energy once, and heard a list of all the restrictions that came with 30 minutes, but don't quite understand if they act differently for 1 hour.

I have not been to Mayorista yet. Since I now know where to find hot casa girls, it hasnt seemed worth it given that casas are so cheap, and safer, simpler and closer. But maybe I am missing out? Hard for me to believe streetwalkers would be more passionate but who knows.

I had considered inviting a casa girl to my hotel one night, but I don't want to see them after they have been working all day. 6 days a week, and it is hard for me to deal with all the hassle when I know how cheaply and simply I can get them back in the casa.

So is there any way to find girls that give something similar to Mansion service (or just not the cold brothel service) without staying there? I am happy to pay more than the casa prices, but it just isn't clear where the next level up really is.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zero1; 1338955]So is there any way to find girls that give something similar to Mansion service (or just not the cold brothel service) without staying there? I am happy to pay more than the casa prices, but it just isn't clear where the next level up really is.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]It ain't hard look to the photo gallery, where do you think TweedleD got the picture from? FB

You can match usernames to dudes faces pretty easily, then go down their friends list [ girls of course], a gentleman from Fort Wayne would be a good start, alot of others but last time I mentioned I screwed half a dudes friendslist was Medellin Paisa that day he upped his privacy settings so noone could scope his talent anymore. LMAO.

Another option would be Romance Latina, find a member of a monger board that you can put a name to, then look at his friends list or a popular puta.

Go to the night strip joints on Maracaibo in "el centro" Better luck there for what you want.

The Mayo is a good place too, just spend sometime talking and getting a vibe from the girl outside before you commit to the dead. Talk it out if you have to clear any miscommunications about your requirement.

Try to be humble and relax. I can sense your stress and I haven't met you. These girls will too!

If all else fail, find my report on Medellin, the last two photos one of a dark curly hair white casa girl and the skinny blonde in bikini strip club girl will take care of you. Just remember, it also depends on your treatment and attitude with the girls. Just ask yourself, why do the CASA girls peak through the curtains before they come out!

You can find the blonde in club Ejecutivo and the other girl in that CASA with the topless presentation, can't recall the name or address of the CASA. Maybe another monger can help with name here.

Good luck and buy, I can tell that is something important for you, hence, I recommend the "island"

BS.

[QUOTE=Zero1; 1338955]. So where can you find "midrange" girls that will kiss and make out and give the slightest bit of sensuality? To be clear, I am not looking for a pretend girlfriend to hang out with for a week, just someone for a few hours who acts like a nighttime working girl in other monger places around the world, instead of a brothel girl. Also, I do not want to move to the Mansion, and don't want to hire some local gringo to introduce me to all his old prepagos. And the girl has to be hot, to my tastes. The great thing with casas is you can see 30-40 girls, then choose one.

So does this scene exist, or is it all restricted to the Mansion and local guys with their networks? .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zero1; 1338955]I have not been to Mayorista yet. Since I now know where to find hot casa girls, it hasnt seemed worth it given that casas are so cheap, and safer, simpler and closer. But maybe I am missing out? Hard for me to believe streetwalkers would be more passionate but who knows.

I had considered inviting a casa girl to my hotel one night, but I don't want to see them after they have been working all day. 6 days a week, and it is hard for me to deal with all the hassle when I know how cheaply and simply I can get them back in the casa.

So is there any way to find girls that give something similar to Mansion service (or just not the cold brothel service) without staying there? I am happy to pay more than the casa prices, but it just isn't clear where the next level up really is.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Really, from the Mansion girls to the Mayo girls and Casa girls, and everything in between, the kissing, the GFE, etc is dependant on the natural chemestry and the vibe you give.

I can tell by the way you wrote about not wanting to invite a casa girl home because you can simply have them cheaper back at the casa, that you have not broken the simple code; treat the girls like girls and not just like a cheap f. K toy and really, the GFE just comes naturally.

I'm not saying just to be polite to them, that's a given, but be more, talk to them a bit, make them laugh, ask about their family, kids, studies, show them that you see them as a person and not just a quick piece of ass,

It's not that difficult.

If these girls see you as a cool, caring guy and they feel comfortable with you, and you don't act like just another hard on, the GFE will come.

Seriously, it's all in the attitude, and I don't care if you're offering a tip, asking for kissing, etc, it's still not going to be a GFE, just some cursory fakey fake stuff.

Good luck.

It is not about place. It is about you. You need to be attractive to the girls.

[QUOTE=Zero1; 1338955]I can find hot girls in the casas with enough time, and the price is great, but there is no kissing or making out, and the whole experience is so down to business it gets really boring after a while. I suggested a propina to one girl for kissing, and she seemed okay with that, but was then just unable to really change her mentality. And I am not a gross or ugly guy. That said, I'm not sure I should make out with such frequently used girls anways.

On the other hand, I had one girl from an expensive strip club that was reasonably GFE (kissing at least) , but the costs add up so fast there, and the whole scene can be a hassle to identify and get the attention of the right girl. And I don't know there is any assurance the girls will perform better than casa girls anyways.

So where can you find "midrange" girls that will kiss and make out and give the slightest bit of sensuality?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

LT,

I haven't noticed Monica in the press footage on T.V. from Norway of the Colombian government and FARC negociations!
Did she fly over for it ?

A. G.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1339178]It is not about place. It is about you. You need to be attractive to the girls.[/QUOTE]Matt, I agree with you, but on the other hand I would not blame zero 1, I have found women from cities closer to the capital city of Colombia are less friendly, and run a lot of scams, I have been a victim of that myself, it is hard to have a relationship with a chica from Medellin, all they care about is your wallet, I have been going to cities on the north of Colombia, such as Cartagena, and Santa marta etc they are a bit more pricy but I don't see that prepago scam there, pros are pros, and serious girls you can find for sure, is there any legit girls you recommend? Pass me some infos in a pvt if you can, thanks.

[QUOTE=Zero1; 1338955]I have been to many of the centro casas, checked out the centro strip clubs, and went to the high end strip clubs like fase dos,

So where can you find "midrange" girls that will kiss and make out and give the slightest bit of sensuality? To be clear, I am not looking for a pretend girlfriend to hang out with for a week, just someone for a few hours who acts like a nighttime working girl in other monger places around the world, instead of a brothel girl. Also, I do not want to move to the Mansion, and don't want to hire some local gringo to introduce me to all his old prepagos. And the girl has to be hot, to my tastes. The great thing with casas is you can see 30-40 girls, then choose one.

So does this scene exist, or is it all restricted to the Mansion and local guys with their networks?

Are the high end casas any better? I checked out Energy once, and heard a list of all the restrictions that came with 30 minutes, but don't quite understand if they act differently for 1 hour.

I have not been to Mayorista yet. Since I now know where to find hot casa girls, it hasnt seemed worth it given that casas are so cheap, and safer, simpler and closer. But maybe I am missing out? Hard for me to believe streetwalkers would be more passionate but who knows.

I had considered inviting a casa girl to my hotel one night, but I don't want to see them after they have been working all day. 6 days a week, and it is hard for me to deal with all the hassle when I know how cheaply and simply I can get them back in the casa.

So is there any way to find girls that give something similar to Mansion service (or just not the cold brothel service) without staying there? I am happy to pay more than the casa prices, but it just isn't clear where the next level up really is.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Hey Zero 1, I am not ugly or anything like that, I think the problem you are having is communication, try to find the one that understands you when you joke or so that works and makes you interesting to a girl, remember always keep them laughing and do not meet them and fuck them right away, try to be a gentleman, offer a drink, and chat if you can, you will let them know for sure you can be a great lover, you will know it is working when they start wanting to hang out with you more while you are in those casas or wherever yu are, ask for their numbers and text them saying hello, something like holla p. S: El gringo de tu vida, or whatever works for you, be nice to the girls you will see they will be throwing pussy your way always, send some my way when you become an expert at seducing LOL, peace out.

Went to the infamous New Life today. Decent line up however there was competition from like 8 dudes.

Ended up at Belle. 7 chicas. 4 were totally cute. Tough decision but a great time. Great time.

Meanwhile, Looking for a wing.

PM me.

Thanks for the replies. Some contradictory thoughts, but okay.

What is "the island"? Do you mean "La Isla"-I heard it was owned by the san diego people, but far from the city. I have not seen any online details about it-can you explain it, and is there any cheap way to get there?

I will check out the centro strip clubs again, and perhaps Mayorista. My problem with the centro strip clubs is that I thought the girls were not very good looking.

Perhaps I haven't been charming enough to the casa girls, but that really didn't seem like the issue. I actually began going there and talking to the girls and trying to warm them up, like I would in other countries, but I kept feeling this unstated attitude of something like "please stop being a silly gringo and thinking this place is anything more than a simple knocking shop." In other words, they seemed more comfortable just acting like a "cheap piece of ass", and like they had some clear routines and rules they seriously did not want to break. Who knows, I am basing this on a just a few times, so I am sure it varies by girl. I don't doubt that I can break through to some of the girls, but I don't feel like it makes sense to invest real time in romancing a casa girl outside of the casa, given the realities of her daily job.

And let's be honest, the entire setup and procedure at the casas is so non-sexy and business like to begin with. After a few times I found it easier and less awkward to just go with the flow rather than push for something different.

Anyways, I am surprised there is not a night time casa option, kind of like at Termas in Rio, where the price is higher, but there is a bar, music, more interaction, fewer customers a day, and better service. The daytime sterility of casas definitely leaves me feeling a bit sleazy at times! The casas do some things great, but they were obviously never designed to satisfy all the interests of most gringos. Thus the popularity of all the private networks of semi-pros, etc.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1339177]Really, from the Mansion girls to the Mayo girls and Casa girls, and everything in between, the kissing, the GFE, etc is dependant on the natural chemestry and the vibe you give.

I can tell by the way you wrote about not wanting to invite a casa girl home because you can simply have them cheaper back at the casa, that you have not broken the simple code; treat the girls like girls and not just like a cheap f. K toy and really, the GFE just comes naturally.

I'm not saying just to be polite to them, that's a given, but be more, talk to them a bit, make them laugh, ask about their family, kids, studies, show them that you see them as a person and not just a quick piece of ass,

It's not that difficult.

If these girls see you as a cool, caring guy and they feel comfortable with you, and you don't act like just another hard on, the GFE will come.

Seriously, it's all in the attitude, and I don't care if you're offering a tip, asking for kissing, etc, it's still not going to be a GFE, just some cursory fakey fake stuff.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]

I will be traveling alone to Medellin & would like to hire some one on the ground to help me out. I have read about Parcero & ColombiaJake's but wondering if there are others who are under the radar? Anyone has any recommendations? PM me.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1339256]LT,

I haven't noticed Monica in the press footage on T. V. From Norway of the Colombian government and FARC negociations!

Did she fly over for it?

A. G.[/QUOTE]A. G, she going to EAFIT with the Poblado upper crust. Still a leader, but she's starting to understand that change can come from the inside easier than the outside. She's still evangelical about economic and social justice. Anyone would have to love her passion for "her" people. But she's becoming older and more educated, and more realistic. We are going to her graduation. She's getting more conservative while I've gotten more liberal. She's an unusual combination of rage against the status quo and compassion for the people of Colombia. I guess a little of that has rubbed off on me.

Only good energy, amigo

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1339178]It is not about place. It is about you. You need to be attractive to the girls.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's right. The thicker the wallet the more attractive you become.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1339177]Really, from the Mansion girls to the Mayo girls and Casa girls, and everything in between, the kissing, the GFE, etc is dependant on the natural chemestry and the vibe you give.

I can tell by the way you wrote about not wanting to invite a casa girl home because you can simply have them cheaper back at the casa, that you have not broken the simple code; treat the girls like girls and not just like a cheap f. K toy and really, the GFE just comes naturally.

I'm not saying just to be polite to them, that's a given, but be more, talk to them a bit, make them laugh, ask about their family, kids, studies, show them that you see them as a person and not just a quick piece of ass,

It's not that difficult.

If these girls see you as a cool, caring guy and they feel comfortable with you, and you don't act like just another hard on, the GFE will come.

Seriously, it's all in the attitude, and I don't care if you're offering a tip, asking for kissing, etc, it's still not going to be a GFE, just some cursory fakey fake stuff.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Ricker has a great ability to capture the truth in just a few words. The key in what was written, i think, is "caring." If you don't think you have it in you to honestly be interested in a working girl's life, then why should you expect attention and affection in addition to the obligatory sex? If you want GFE, then be a BFE, even if for just an hour.

Only good energy, remember?

[QUOTE=Zero1;1339323]And let's be honest, the entire setup and procedure at the casas is so non-sexy and business like to begin with. After a few times I found it easier and less awkward to just go with the flow rather than push for something different.[/QUOTE]So, how is going with the flow working for you? Amigo, if you want something in addition to mechanical sex, you don't get it by being pushy. One establishes his own flow and his own energy. Sex permeates Medellin. Like Richer said, just treat these girls, any girl that you want to have sex with, like someone that you want to share a little slice of her life. A must is knowing enough Spanish to communicate, but it's so easy after that. I haven't been to a casa in a long time, but I don't remember a bad experience. Make them laugh. It works with women anywhere.

Two weeks ago I was visiting with a beautiful young lawyer in Medellin about business. She agreed to go to dinner since we hadn't finished our discussion and I had to leave the next day. We talked about her family, her ex boyfriend, her profession. About her life. Now, this girl is young enough to be my daughter. We were enjoying each other's company and after a bottle of wine, I explained that she had a great responsibility. I explained that until I met her, I felt that I was turning gay and that she was the only woman in the world that could save me. Of course, she ask me if I was serious, and I said to her,"do you think that I would kid about something as important as that?" And I explained that if that happened, it was because of her choice. She was the only one that could save me. In due course, I ask her if she thought she could save me. She said, of course, she could and explained that she had many men interested in her, but she was too busy with her work. I certainly understood that, and agreed that she could save me, and she was the only one that could. A simple "let's go" lead to a wonderful night with a beautiful, educated young woman. In the morning I confirmed that I was in fact straight, and it was her and her alone that had saved me from the scourge of homosexuality. We laughed, and now we are friends. It's not that hard.

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Rain rain rain.

Mayorista. In spite of the rain there were many girls. In my non inebriated state, I noticed 3 or 4 I considered barely doable. And by that I mean, that is how many did not have belly jiggle. While nursing my beer, a very tight jeans, big fake boobs, pretty face chica gets out of a taxi walking like a peacock. Easily the hottest girl to show up, highly attributed to her nice clothes and confident attitude. She was a little thick or big or maybe athletic looking depending how you see things. Anyway, she was grabbed within 5 minutes. I give her a 7 based on sex appeal. I should have grabbed her.

Went to Executiva in centro. Approx 25 chicas. In my book. 4 doable. And again, by that I mean 3 with relatively flat tummies. Most of them had these military like costumes on. It was cute. One chica was just dressed in street clothes and I was not sure she was even working. Turns out she was. She was fun to chat and flirt with but very pushy. To the point where I eventually left her. She wanted 100mil to meet me around the corner so I would not have to pay the exit fee. I may call her.

I need to stop being so nice. But part of it is because the picking were pretty slim and I want the interaction.

Peace

I have noticed that the stereotypes of Paisas, to the Colombians outside of Medellin, are hardcore, cold-blood and agressive materialists. It could be (only) partially true. While a few pros have ripped me off, some pros and non-pros in Medellin are friendly and give me numbers sometimes. While a few pros have declined my invitation, a few pros have given me a freebie and traveled with me. Probably just a chemistry. Girls nice to me may not be nice to you and girls nice to you may not be nice to me either.

Money is a "minimum" requirement, but not a charm booster. After a certain level, your wealth may have a limited or modest effect on your attractiveness. If you are a millionaire, it does not make you 10x attractive than a guy who make 100k, especially to pros. So as for the relationship between mens' wealth and attractiveness, there is a law of diminished return, if not a negative relationship.

Overall, we all may want to have a realistic expectation. If girls who are 30 years younger than you do not come to you in the USA, there is no reason why girls in Medellin would do otherwise. In Colombia and other countries, I saw "a few" gringos who believed that they looked like Brad Pitt and acted accordingly because they "thought" they were rich. Also I heard what pros and non pros talked about these guys. Thanks.

[QUOTE=CartaAngel;1339294]Matt, I agree with you, but on the other hand I would not blame zero 1, I have found women from cities closer to the capital city of Colombia are less friendly, and run a lot of scams, I have been a victim of that myself, it is hard to have a relationship with a chica from Medellin, all they care about is your wallet, I have been going to cities on the north of Colombia, such as Cartagena, and Santa marta etc they are a bit more pricy but I don't see that prepago scam there, pros are pros, and serious girls you can find for sure, is there any legit girls you recommend? Pass me some infos in a pvt if you can, thanks.[/QUOTE]

Look at the presentations of girls carefully. Only choose a girl who smiled to you. Avoid girls who are indifferent to you. Ask a few questions to the girls you like, and see how they react. If the girl touches you or keeps holding your hand, of course she likes you.

[QUOTE=Zero1; 1339323]Thanks for the replies. Some contradictory thoughts, but okay.

What is "the island"? Do you mean "La Isla"-I heard it was owned by the san diego people, but far from the city. I have not seen any online details about it-can you explain it, and is there any cheap way to get there?

I will check out the centro strip clubs again, and perhaps Mayorista. My problem with the centro strip clubs is that I thought the girls were not very good looking.

Perhaps I haven't been charming enough to the casa girls, but that really didn't seem like the issue. I actually began going there and talking to the girls and trying to warm them up, like I would in other countries, but I kept feeling this unstated attitude of something like "please stop being a silly gringo and thinking this place is anything more than a simple knocking shop." In other words, they seemed more comfortable just acting like a "cheap piece of ass", and like they had some clear routines and rules they seriously did not want to break. Who knows, I am basing this on a just a few times, so I am sure it varies by girl. I don't doubt that I can break through to some of the girls, but I don't feel like it makes sense to invest real time in romancing a casa girl outside of the casa, given the realities of her daily job.

And let's be honest, the entire setup and procedure at the casas is so non-sexy and business like to begin with. After a few times I found it easier and less awkward to just go with the flow rather than push for something different.

Anyways, I am surprised there is not a night time casa option, kind of like at Termas in Rio, where the price is higher, but there is a bar, music, more interaction, fewer customers a day, and better service. The daytime sterility of casas definitely leaves me feeling a bit sleazy at times! The casas do some things great, but they were obviously never designed to satisfy all the interests of most gringos. Thus the popularity of all the private networks of semi-pros, etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1339401]A simple "let's go" lead to a wonderful night with a beautiful, educated young woman. In the morning I confirmed that I was in fact straight, and it was her and her alone that had saved me from the scourge of homosexuality. We laughed, and now we are friends. It's not that hard.[/QUOTE]Nothing beats free sex with a gorgeous Paisa. My hats to you.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1339570]Look at the presentations of girls carefully. Only choose a girl who smiled to you. Avoid girls who are indifferent to you. Ask a few questions to the girls you like, and see how they react. If the girl touches you or keeps holding your hand, of course she likes you.[/QUOTE]Great advice!

Also, if you like a girl, once they've all presented, have her come back to talk for a few minutes before making the decision to go with her.

You'll easily feel out the chemestry between you, or the non-chemestry and move on.

My last trip to Medellin, I selected no chemestry duds with me, because I followed Matt's advice and my own, by further talking with them before the final selection.

Matter of fact. 2 of the girls have become friends and we keep in touch, and planning my return to meet up, one of them is a star for me.

Good luck

[QUOTE=the Monger; 1339371]I will be traveling alone to Medellin & would like to hire some one on the ground to help me out. I have read about Parcero & ColombiaJake's but wondering if there are others who are under the radar? Anyone has any recommendations? PM me.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Guidesbyandrea dot com, Or Medellinadventuretours dot com Both Jimmy and Andrea are absolutely wonderful, spectacular really nice people, you can't go wrong with either of them!

Hi there, I'm new to the beauty Medellin has to offer and currently staying in Envigado.

I'm definitely planning on going to downtown Medellin to check out the girls there.

However I was wondering if anyone knows of any casas in Envigado itself, if possible close to Parque Envigado.

You know, sometimes when it's late in the night I just want to be able to walk to a casa and not have the hassle of taking taxis.

Or if there are no casas, do Prepagos work in and around Parque Envigado?

Thanks

Thetij,

How did you end up staying in envigado? That's way down south and far from p4p. I know cause I LIVED there for a while by the gym.

Don't waste your time. Envigado is the cleanest municipality in medelline. No p4p there. Not even gangs can survive there.

Parquet envigado is where you can meet regular nice people. You want to meet regular young women, go to the nightclubs by the gym. About 4 blocks west of the park.

But really man, why Envigado?

Oh, while you are there go visit "Escobar" prison way up on the mountains. A real cool tourist spot.

BS.

[QUOTE=Thetij; 1339735]Hi there, I'm new to the beauty Medellin has to offer and currently staying in Envigado.

I'm definitely planning on going to downtown Medellin to check out the girls there.

However I was wondering if anyone knows of any casas in Envigado itself, if possible close to Parque Envigado.

You know, sometimes when it's late in the night I just want to be able to walk to a casa and not have the hassle of taking taxis.

Or if there are no casas, do Prepagos work in and around Parque Envigado?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Great to see quality posts and information now being published again on this forum! Great job guys, and all it seemed to take was the banning of one flaming fool. Keep it coming!

If you are in Envigado you should get in touch with BlueDevil, who lives there, he posts on a competing forum.

[QUOTE=TheTij; 1339735]You know, sometimes when it's late in the night I just want to be able to walk to a casa and not have the hassle of taking taxis.

Or if there are no casas, do Prepagos work in and around Parque Envigado?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Your not far from Mayorista, walkable by day if your adventurous, it isn't a casa.

Thanks for the info guys. I might check out Mayorista during the day this week.

And BrasilSoccer0, to answer your question "why Envigado". Because I'm her to stay for a while. Not visiting for just p4p, that's secondary.

Got some work to do, and if I were to live next to Parque Lleras I would not get ANY work done.

TheTij

No. Please go to Mayorista after 9pm. There's nothing in Mayo in the daytime.
During the daytime, you may want to visit casas in Centro, which are closed in the night.
Personally I like Envigado. I prefer Envigado to El Poblado.

[QUOTE=TheTij; 1340396]Thanks for the info guys. I might check out Mayorista during the day this week.

And BrasilSoccer0, to answer your question "why Envigado". Because I'm her to stay for a while. Not visiting for just p4p, that's secondary.

Got some work to do, and if I were to live next to Parque Lleras I would not get ANY work done.

TheTij[/QUOTE]

[quote=chesrep001;1339989]if you are in envigado you should get in touch with bluedevil, who lives there, he posts on a competing forum.[/quote]to the very best of my knowledge bd lives in sabaneta unless he has just very recently moved.

You're right, my bad.

[QUOTE=Rainman3;1340505]To the very best of my knowledge BD lives in Sabaneta unless he has just very recently moved.[/QUOTE]

I'm not Shute how long you are staying there but the gym is a great place to meet girls.

BS.

[QUOTE=TheTij;1340396]Not visiting for just p4p, that's secondary.[/QUOTE]Fellow womanizers, is the pursuit of the perfect sexual experience ever secondary? I anticipated that as I enjoy senior states in age and station of life, that woman would not have so much control over me. The intensity the sexual experience with the woman that has giving pleasure in her heart, and the perfect body in a tranquil environment takes one to a brief trip to heaven. Isn't that the addiction that we all share? Fuck, sometimes I wish it were secondary, but even when I have everything material that anyone could ever reasonably desire, I'm still searching for the better "high" Worse than crack cocaine.

Tij, I know what you mean about having to get some work done. All of them are p4p in some context, and everyone has to live. Besides, I assume you have commitments regarding your work. Got to respect that. If anyone doesn't do what he says he will, then there is no chance of enjoying. .

Only good energy

P4p is allways secondary for me, I like to visit the city for its natural beauty, I actually never noticed it had a female population at first. So secondarily I will be heading to Medellin in a month on a secondary mission. Does any one know of a place El Central thats extremely crowded with secondaries I passed it one day and I'm unable to find this place again.

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1341074]P4p is allways secondary for me, I like to visit the city for its natural beauty, I actually never noticed it had a female population at first. So secondarily I will be heading to Medellin in a month on a secondary mission. Does any one know of a place El Central thats extremely crowded with secondaries I passed it one day and I'm unable to find this place again.[/QUOTE]Carerra 52 one block south of Museo Antioquia on Plaza Botero (exit the Metro at Parque Berrio).

Lots of Secondaries!

Happy Hunting

Anyone have any Halloween event recommendations?

Fellow womanizers.

I like the enhacement Viagra gives, but not the sideeffects, but it is cheap generic in Medellin. Cialis is much better, but I have not a fund a generic one, original where like 20-28 k pesos in December 2010.

Has this changed? Has anyone come over generic Cialis?

Important for me since I like very long sessions, visiting 2-4 places before I give in fully exhausted. Those Cialis are essential in the pursuit of the perfect sexual experience.

Lots of sexually deprived USA horney guys in town for Halloween! Tem arrived here and took my Master Suite and could not be a cooler southern Louisiana dude! Yesterday after arriving he was starving after a long flight and was in the mood for empanadas. Walked over to my favorite place just a block away for chicken empanadas with a creamy hot sauce that makes them real tasty. A couple hours to recharge and time to meet up in Lleras for 3 for 1 Drinks and a couple of average chica's at our table to pass the time. I sent them on their way because my man Tem prefers above average chica's and with his above average cash flow we took off for Fase Dos. The energy was real good along with the amount of chica's as well as the Beauty level! Lots of fun! We'll see if he's interested in one or two Crazy Halloween Parties I know of tonight, or more adventure's with the strippers? Tem leaves on Saturday and guess who arrives again on the 7th. Yup can't get enough Matt from Alaska! Colombiajake. Com

Fellow Womanizers.

I got off my +80hs week working programe a little to early, so I now have been spending my time since 7 weeks surfing Cupid Romance etc. Until I arrive at Medellin late December for 10 weeks.

My conclusion is that Internet has made the Paisa Pimps unemployed.

The girls simply use this sites as advertizing media. It's free and no pimps involved. Profits goes up 111% directly! Plus the chance to get gringos to send them money for a Crying Game. The best business idea since The Catolic Chuch invented letter of indulgence. I can just congratulate those girls who make such easy money. If I was not a Vikingo I would love to be a hot Paisa!

Internet hooking is so profitable that is attracts females of every social group, since it so discrete, which gives us Inglourious Basterds access to The Greatest De Luxe Bordello In The World.

The Quest for The Ultimate Erotic Experience.

My method is to use Cialis / Viagra since it obvoiusly gives you a boner for hours if you can control the cum-impulse while visiting as many 1st Class babes as can until You give in. I tried this 2010. It worked wonderfully. As a reward for this sexually torture, now a fully relaxed Gentleman You ask Your favourite serious paisa out to Teatro Metropolitano and afterward to "The Eden restaurant at The Charlee hotel is a beautiful place to enjoy a romantic dinner and drink. There is also a rooftop bar and lounge called Envy that is perfect for a private and quiet drink."

You only need one, two such experiences a week. Memories seems to last. For years!

Brasil maybe still be hotter, but a too strong currency and Portugese is still obstacles I have to overcome since I do long time trips.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1341653]Fellow womanizers.

I like the enhacement Viagra gives, but not the sideeffects, but it is cheap generic in Medellin. Cialis is much better, but I have not a fund a generic one, original where like 20-28 k pesos in December 2010.

Has this changed? Has anyone come over generic Cialis?

Important for me since I like very long sessions, visiting 2-4 places before I give in fully exhausted. Those Cialis are essential in the pursuit of the perfect sexual experience.[/QUOTE]Blanco,

Lilly's patent has not run out yet, so no there is no generic, or at least a legal one I would recommend. BTW and I say this in the nicest way mixing Viagra and Cialis. Uhm not bueno my friend. (unless I misread another post of yours. Then I apologize) Yes you would be probably ok most of the time but it only takes one time for it to fuck you up permanently, . And no I am not talking about the pinga but cardiac effects.

Cialis is a great drug. If you want a good in between drug and less side effects, Levitra is a good one.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1342131]Fellow Womanizers.

I got off my +80hs week working programe a little to early, so I now have been spending my time since 7 weeks surfing Cupid Romance etc. Until I arrive at Medellin late December for 10 weeks.

My conclusion is that Internet has made the Paisa Pimps unemployed.

The girls simply use this sites as advertizing media. It's free and no pimps involved. Profits goes up 111% directly! Plus the chance to get gringos to send them money for a Crying Game. The best business idea since The Catolic Chuch invented letter of indulgence. I can just congratulate those girls who make such easy money. If I was not a Vikingo I would love to be a hot Paisa!

Internet hooking is so profitable that is attracts females of every social group, since it so discrete, which gives us Inglourious Basterds access to The Greatest De Luxe Bordello In The World.[/QUOTE]BV speaks the truth. The sites like Cupid Romance, etc, are p4p advertisements, personified. And, it crossed every socio-economic group. The Poblado girls aim a little higher just because that's what they've become accustomed to. There is not such thing as free sex. The next time you think you've met a "normal" girl, just remember there is no such thing as free sex. Say it one hundred times until you come back to reality. They all want something!

I've been having sex with this beautiful 24 year old Paisa lawyer who drives an E class Mercedes and has a nice place in Poblado. I don't pay her a penny directly, but have mutual clients, that I control, that pay her a butt load of COPs for her legal work, and she is damn smart. But, for that relationship and the benefit she receives, I would never been able to have sex with her. I know it. She knows it. And now you know it. There is no free sex, and they all have their price.

Only good energy, and my wish that we all find the magical sexual experience.

L. T.

Your trying to tell me Romance Latinas is not a web site I can trust to find a loving wife, gosh.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1342958]BV speaks the truth. The sites like Cupid Romance, etc, are p4p advertisements, personified. And, it crossed every socio-economic group. The Poblado girls aim a little higher just because that's what they've become accustomed to. There is not such thing as free sex. The next time you think you've met a "normal" girl, just remember there is no such thing as free sex. Say it one hundred times until you come back to reality. They all want something!

I've been having sex with this beautiful 24 year old Paisa lawyer who drives an E class Mercedes and has a nice place in Poblado. I don't pay her a penny directly, but have mutual clients, that I control, that pay her a butt load of COPs for her legal work, and she is damn smart. But, for that relationship and the benefit she receives, I would never been able to have sex with her. I know it. She knows it. And now you know it. There is no free sex, and they all have their price.

Only good energy, and my wish that we all find the magical sexual experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1339401]Two weeks ago I was visiting with a beautiful young lawyer in Medellin about business. She agreed to go to dinner since we hadn't finished our discussion and I had to leave the next day. We talked about her family, her ex boyfriend, her profession. About her life. Now, this girl is young enough to be my daughter. We were enjoying each other's company and after a bottle of wine, I explained that she had a great responsibility. I explained that until I met her, I felt that I was turning gay and that she was the only woman in the world that could save me. Of course, she ask me if I was serious, and I said to her,"do you think that I would kid about something as important as that?" And I explained that if that happened, it was because of her choice. She was the only one that could save me. In due course, I ask her if she thought she could save me. She said, of course, she could and explained that she had many men interested in her, but she was too busy with her work. I certainly understood that, and agreed that she could save me, and she was the only one that could. A simple "let's go" lead to a wonderful night with a beautiful, educated young woman. In the morning I confirmed that I was in fact straight, and it was her and her alone that had saved me from the scourge of homosexuality. We laughed, and now we are friends. It's not that hard.[/QUOTE]This story is truly how to operate in Medellin. One of my renters was talking to a blonde at my house. There rapping and he is like well why don't you come up stairs. She's like well you have to pay me. He fires back "pay you, but I like you, in a very sincere voice." She's just like ok then.

This is the power of Medellin, and in essence self confidence, being sweet, asking about her, telling a joke. Hell I seen guys with zero Spanish but the best ever at the old game charades I ever seen make them laugh right out of there pants 0 dollars. I here guys tell me about the weather and write about the great weather here in Medellin. That's all bullshit, if this was the artic circle with fun, intense women like this we all be there with are snow suits on. I hear guys asking me if you think she's using me, aren't we all getting something mutual from each other. This coming from a 40 something desk pusher who hasn't been to the gym in the decade and is asking me if this gorgeous 20 something wants something more then love from him. Your on vacation, enjoy your time, soon you'll be back behind your desk, grabbing your Starbucks reminiscing about Wendy Herrera or the other heart-throbs on the prepago MDE circuit. My advice, don't over think, don't marry, don't make them any promises you can't deliver and enjoy. Leave them laughing.

Happy Halloween

[QUOTE=Bbrocs; 1344135]Your on vacation, enjoy your time, soon you'll be back behind your desk, grabbing your Starbucks reminiscing about Wendy Herrera or the other heart-throbs on the prepago MDE circuit. My advice, don't over think, don't marry, don't make them any promises you can't deliver and enjoy. Leave them laughing.

Happy Halloween[/QUOTE]This should be required reading for all mongers, vets and newbies. Well said.

[QUOTE=Bbrocs; 1344135]This story is truly how to operate in Medellin. One of my renters was talking to a blonde at my house. There rapping and he is like well why don't you come up stairs. She's like well you have to pay me. He fires back "pay you, but I like you, in a very sincere voice." She's just like ok then.

This is the power of Medellin, and in essence self confidence, being sweet, asking about her, telling a joke. Hell I seen guys with zero Spanish but the best ever at the old game charades I ever seen make them laugh right out of there pants 0 dollars. I here guys tell me about the weather and write about the great weather here in Medellin. That's all bullshit, if this was the artic circle with fun, intense women like this we all be there with are snow suits on. I hear guys asking me if you think she's using me, aren't we all getting something mutual from each other. This coming from a 40 something desk pusher who hasn't been to the gym in the decade and is asking me if this gorgeous 20 something wants something more then love from him. Your on vacation, enjoy your time, soon you'll be back behind your desk, grabbing your Starbucks reminiscing about Wendy Herrera or the other heart-throbs on the prepago MDE circuit. My advice, don't over think, don't marry, don't make them any promises you can't deliver and enjoy. Leave them laughing.

Happy Halloween[/QUOTE]No. I categorically wouldn't visit MDE if it had arctic weather. The rest of your post I agree with.

How many times does the guy say "not nessesary" in this video? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwjTqBW2HZM[/url]

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1342131]Fellow Womanizers.

I got off my +80hs week working programe a little to early, so I now have been spending my time since 7 weeks surfing Cupid Romance etc. Until I arrive at Medellin late December for 10 weeks.

......
The Quest for The Ultimate Erotic Experience.

My method is to use Cialis / Viagra since it obvoiusly gives you a boner for hours [B]if you can control the cum-impulse[/B] While visiting as many 1st Class babes as can until You give in. I tried this 2010. It worked wonderfully. As a reward for this sexually torture, now a fully relaxed Gentleman You ask Your favourite serious paisa out to Teatro Metropolitano and afterward to "The Eden restaurant at The Charlee hotel is a beautiful place to enjoy a romantic dinner and drink. There is also a rooftop bar and lounge called Envy that is perfect for a private and quiet drink."

You only need one, two such experiences a week. Memories seems to last. For years!

Brasil maybe still be hotter, but a too strong currency and Portugese is still obstacles I have to overcome since I do long time trips.[/QUOTE]Great advice. Referring to comment in bold; Add 10-20 mg of Paxil if cum-impulse is an issue. :-)

I plan to spend 40% of my time in Medellin / latinamerica: I work intensly and then take long vacations. So, yes, you can can have a relationship in Medellin. At your own risk of course, this babes now how to play you.

I met an US physician working in Florida intensly and then living in Medellin where we studied Castellano together, another gringo from Minnesota had his wife in Periera. I met him at strip club.

Make promises that you maybe can't deliver, go crazy- fall in love- Just do It!

Prepare yourself for the Adventure of your life. It is worth to spend a lot of time in the gym, learning some essential Spanish and knowledge about Medellin. Consider that many good looking girls are open to meet with you. A normal salary is $500 US for young girl, or less. Consider that when paying for services or making long term compromises.

I think Paisas are well aware of they being a beautiful people so I would not rely on self confidence alone. They have high standards regarding fitness, especially for foreigners."they make money, but we work out- and we dress well".

You only have one life. Work hard in sexprison-spend your savings in Medellin / latinamerica. That's one recepy, it works wonderfully for me.

[QUOTE=Bbrocs; 1344135]This story is truly how to operate in Medellin. One of my renters was talking to a blonde at my house. There rapping and he is like well why don't you come up stairs. She's like well you have to pay me. He fires back "pay you, but I like you, in a very sincere voice." She's just like ok then.

This is the power of Medellin, and in essence self confidence, being sweet, asking about her, telling a joke. Hell I seen guys with zero Spanish but the best ever at the old game charades I ever seen make them laugh right out of there pants 0 dollars. I here guys tell me about the weather and write about the great weather here in Medellin. That's all bullshit, if this was the artic circle with fun, intense women like this we all be there with are snow suits on. I hear guys asking me if you think she's using me, aren't we all getting something mutual from each other. This coming from a 40 something desk pusher who hasn't been to the gym in the decade and is asking me if this gorgeous 20 something wants something more then love from him. Your on vacation, enjoy your time, soon you'll be back behind your desk, grabbing your Starbucks reminiscing about Wendy Herrera or the other heart-throbs on the prepago MDE circuit. My advice, don't over think, don't marry, don't make them any promises you can't deliver and enjoy. Leave them laughing.

Happy Halloween[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1339560]I have noticed that the stereotypes of Paisas, to the Colombians outside of Medellin, are hardcore, cold-blood and agressive materialists. It could be (only) partially true. While a few pros have ripped me off, some pros and non-pros in Medellin are friendly and give me numbers sometimes. While a few pros have declined my invitation, a few pros have given me a freebie and traveled with me. Probably just a chemistry. Girls nice to me may not be nice to you and girls nice to you may not be nice to me either.

Money is a "minimum" requirement, but not a charm booster. After a certain level, your wealth may have a limited or modest effect on your attractiveness. If you are a millionaire, it does not make you 10x attractive than a guy who make 100k, especially to pros. So as for the relationship between mens' wealth and attractiveness, there is a law of diminished return, if not a negative relationship.

Overall, we all may want to have a realistic expectation. If girls who are 30 years younger than you do not come to you in the USA, there is no reason why girls in Medellin would do otherwise. In Colombia and other countries, I saw "a few" gringos who believed that they looked like Brad Pitt and acted accordingly because they "thought" they were rich. Also I heard what pros and non pros talked about these guys. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I agree with the post and very good advice. However, I do think that latin American women, culturally, are more open to a public "relationship" with an older man than a north American woman. I do agree that it may not work if you "act" like you look like Brad Pitt. Last time I was in MDE, I met a young woman in a bar and hung out with her all night. She introduced me to her friends and her family, went to restaurants and discos and never made me feel like I am 20 yrs older than her. Unlikely that would have happened in the USA. I also think that acceptance of age difference is a big attraction for lot of gringos. It does help to act and feel young though :-)

In Latin America, anywhere in Latin America but more so in some places than others, the combination of an older man and a younger woman says two things: the man is successful and the woman is desirable. Cortés and La Malinche, Porfirio Díaz and Carmen Romero Rubio, Solano López and Madame Lynch, etc. In fact latino families strive to fix their daughters up with successful OLDER men.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1344438]I agree with the post and very good advice. However, I do think that latin American women, culturally, are more open to a public "relationship" with an older man than a north American woman. I do agree that it may not work if you "act" like you look like Brad Pitt. Last time I was in MDE, I met a young woman in a bar and hung out with her all night. She introduced me to her friends and her family, went to restaurants and discos and never made me feel like I am 20 yrs older than her. Unlikely that would have happened in the USA. I also think that acceptance of age difference is a big attraction for lot of gringos. It does help to act and feel young though :-)[/QUOTE]Without question this is true.

It's much more culturally open in Latin America vs USA / the West.

Your last couple sentences are right on the money as well amigo.

[quote=ricker; 1344634]without question this is true.

it's much more culturally open in latin america vs usa / the west.

your last couple sentences are right on the money as well amigo.[/quote]ricker, seems to be a good old usa issue. i've taken a 23 year old to asia (i'm 50's) and nobody gave us a second look. traveled italy with a 24 year old, not a peep. spent two weeks in turkey with a 29 year old. nadda! go to a international city like dc or nyc and you seldom get a look. try it in st louis and you get comments. best was my asian 24 yo honey running after a redneck because he call called me woody allen. ha! i had to hold her back before she clawed his eyes out. maybe if i chewed tobacco wore cowboy boots and a baseball hat?

First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1344794]First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks![/QUOTE]The only advantage to Cartagena is the beach. A girl that will set you back 30k COP in a Medellin casa will ask for a minimum of 300k COP in Cartagena. Cartagena is full of touts and scammers that target tourists, Medellin isn't. Most of the best looking girls in Cartagena will be from Medellin. If this is purely a sex-cation, you're better off sticking in Medellin the entire trip. If you need a cover story and some beach / old city photos for back home, then do a pitstop in Cartagena.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1344794]First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Hey alwayshorney, you can make a good decision based upon what your budget is, if you are looking for a quality and relaxing vacation while you have a variety of girls to choose from, I'd recommend Cartagena, there you get to see girls from all over Colombia and the best looking ones go to Ctg during this season because thats the place to be now during Nov to Jan, Medellin is ok it is cheaper, but simply for that reason, it is not like Cartagena and doesn't offer the same as a vacation destination, from my experience there I was jaded of the city on my second day also I got robbed twice in Medellin, in Ctg I feel safer, infanticide sounds like he didn't have a good experience in Ctg, but I disagree with him when he says there is a bunch of scammers in ctg that target tourists, thats absolutely not true, Colombia is a nice country and I think it has the nicest people in latin america, please don't let just a few bad people dull the good things out, research more and get referrals about who to deal with whether you decide between ctg and Medellin, conclusion: low prices Medellin, relaxing vacation by the ocean and variety of colombian pussy and all south america Ctg.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1344794]First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I forgot to mention February is affordable in Cartagena prices drop down to about 40, and you can avail yourself of the carnival time in Barranquilla once again a lot of variety, national tourists go to Barranquilla and make stops in ctg, I met the hottest girls earlier this year during that carnival, it was fun and unforgettable

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1344794]First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks![/QUOTE]For 10 nights, I'd definitely do both. Maybe 3 or 4 days in Cartagena and the rest in MDE.

The beach in Cartagena isn't particularly nice, but the old City is definitely worth seeing.

MDE will have better weather and in general is a bit cheaper for chicas.

Thanks for the response. How is the nightlife in MDE? I like to party. I will also do some sightseeing as well. I need other activity than simply searching for pussy. I am treating this like a real vacation and not a pure mongering trip.

[QUOTE=Combo; 1344858]For 10 nights, I'd definitely do both. Maybe 3 or 4 days in Cartagena and the rest in MDE.

The beach in Cartagena isn't particularly nice, but the old City is definitely worth seeing.

MDE will have better weather and in general is a bit cheaper for chicas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo; 1344858]For 10 nights, I'd definitely do both. Maybe 3 or 4 days in Cartagena and the rest in MDE.

The beach in Cartagena isn't particularly nice, but the old City is definitely worth seeing.

MDE will have better weather and in general is a bit cheaper for chicas.[/QUOTE]Splitting your time between the two cities is a good idea and the airfare is fairly reasonable. This is what I've done. When it's winter time at home, there's nothing like spending some time on a sunny beach in Cartagena.

The beaches around the old town of Cartagena aren't great, but the beaches of Bocagrande and El Laguito are nice and the water clean and calm for swimming.

If you don't like heat and humidity, MDE would be the place for you. The last time I did a Cartagena / MDE trip, it rained the entire 7 days (not drizzle, but bucket downpours) that I was in MDE and it didn't rain at all during my 5 days in Cartagena. Needless to say, I was longing to go back to Cartagena.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1345002]Thanks for the response. How is the nightlife in MDE? I like to party. I will also do some sightseeing as well. I need other activity than simply searching for pussy. I am treating this like a real vacation and not a pure mongering trip.[/QUOTE]I'm generally not a huge partier. However there's about 3 Million people living in MDE, so I imagine there's some decent nightlife. If you like Salsa,
El Suave on Calle 50 is a great place to party. (though neither Cartagena or MDE has a great dance scene like Cali).

Cartagena has some excellent places to party around the Old City. Not sure if it's still there, but Tu Candela was my favorite bar / Club in Cartagena.

As far as weather, MDE has more rain, with a delightful temperature that's rarely too hot or cold. Cartagena is hot and humid.

You should have a great time going to both places.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1344634]Without question this is true.

It's much more culturally open in Latin America vs USA / the West.

Your last couple sentences are right on the money as well amigo.[/QUOTE]I just have to throw my 2 cents worth in. Without a doubt there are only 2 countries, Colombia and Thailand with such great acceptance of young chica older guy, but it goes much further than being with a young chica in public places. The friendliness of young chicas to me [60+ kanuckistan gringo) I encounter in stores and restaurants in Colombia is in total contrast to what I encounter in Canada. The friendliness of Colombianas toward older gringos also exceeds that of chicas in Ecuador and Peru in my humble opinion. I am presently in Ecuador saving my last 32 days left on my max 180 in Colombia for when my novia has her university holidays. A few notes to older gringos wanting to have a relationship with a chica, lose the big gut, if 50+ dress 35 ish, (but no white runners) buy a trimmer and use it on the nose hairs, ears, eyebrows and down below. Ricker talks about being 20 years older and meeting the parents, I meet the parents and I am 20 years older than the mother. (I am jealous Ricker I only wish I was 20 years older than the chica also).

[QUOTE=Bart1;1345181]I just have to throw my 2 cents worth in. Without a doubt there are only 2 countries, Colombia and Thailand with such great acceptance of young chica older guy, but it goes much further than being with a young chica in public places. The friendliness of young chicas to me [60+ kanuckistan gringo) I encounter in stores and restaurants in Colombia is in total contrast to what I encounter in Canada. The friendliness of Colombianas toward older gringos also exceeds that of chicas in Ecuador and Peru in my humble opinion. I am presently in Ecuador saving my last 32 days left on my max 180 in Colombia for when my novia has her university holidays. A few notes to older gringos wanting to have a relationship with a chica, lose the big gut, if 50+ dress 35 ish, (but no white runners) buy a trimmer and use it on the nose hairs, ears, eyebrows and down below. Ricker talks about being 20 years older and meeting the parents, I meet the parents and I am 20 years older than the mother. (I am jealous Ricker I only wish I was 20 years older than the chica also).[/QUOTE]First let me say "Good For Us!" this recent subject matter did not devolve into a Young vs Old gringo flame battle. Signs of life!

I'm usually on the young side of the argument.

Let's focus on what is important in the last few posts.

Bart nailed some of the most obvious IMO:

1) Lose the gut=be the best you can be. NOBODY likes a fat slob! If you have a few extra LBS. Develop a funny and outgoing personality!

2) Dress nice, get a new shirt and not one with a huge design / pattern. If your best shirt has glitter, sparkles, looks like a tribal tattoo; you need a new shirt! Hahhaha! I don't think if you're 50 you should dress 35. What does 35 dress like? Let's shoot for classic, nice jeans (no rips or tears because if you do you'll look like the dude from Aerosmith = Trying too hard) , a new clean pair of sneakers for casual chilling and a set of nice brown shoes if you like to get a bit dressy / workish, a nice golf / polo shirt, a new cool tee shirt.

3) Lord I don't know how this is not obvious to EVERYBODY, personal grooming is key. I'd like to add breath, have gum, mints, breath spray on hand.

4) Be funny and nice! Do not be cheap!

5) Get a clue. Or be as cool as you can be. I've been up in Parque Gringo and have seen some WEAK game being spit and the look in the girls eyes of "what is this loser gringo saying to me?", for example, This dude in a bar saying to a Chica: "Do you know who you look like, Sofia Lauren!" Now SL was one of the hottest girls EVER IMO but this 20? Year old Colombian chick would have 0% chance of knowing who that is! How is she supposed to understand the joke / complement? Another; I was on a double date with my buddy Joey in the states, he commented that he needed a hair cut and said that he would shave his head but didn't want to look like the singer form Midnight Oil. WHO? A 1 hit wonder form the 80s? Both the girls where BORN in the 80s! If you are to date a younger girl you have to be versed in some of the up to date stuff in popular culture.

6) Smile and Laugh! But don't laugh at your own jokes first! That's a sign of a lack of self confidence.

I'm sure I"m missing more of the foundation stuff but this is a good start for most of the clueless.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1345181]Without a doubt there are only 2 countries, Colombia and Thailand with such great acceptance of young chica older guy.[/QUOTE]You have obviously never been to the Philippines. Mate, for my money, it is home to the most beautiful girls on the planet, and as a 65 year-old, I am always dating girls 18-25 if I like.

Now if they would only learn cooking from the Thais.

[QUOTE=Polyorchid; 1345242]You have obviously never been to the Philippines. Mate, for my money, it is home to the most beautiful girls on the planet, and as a 65 year-old, I am always dating girls 18-25 if I like.

Now if they would only learn cooking from the Thais.[/QUOTE]I have never been to PI but I have spend a lot of time in So-Cal and Hawaii and the hottest (there are a lot of hot chicks but the group that has the highest hit-a-bility ratio are Philipienas) are the local Philippienas. They also know what's up. The younger girl x older guy dynamic is not limited to foreign countries, it's just easier there. In the US you have to be a "sugar daddy" to have a trophy girl or arm candy. In other countries if you are not cheap and treat the girls nice that is enough! The thing girls like most is ATTENTION! Now if that comes in the form of money, affection, or drama it does not matter as long as they feel you are giving them the proper amount of attention.

Thais and Vietnam have awesome food; PI and Cambodia not so much!

Why do folk from Asian boards continue to talk about their women in a LATIN AMERICAN board? I have never posted on those boards because I consider the women to be not very femenine. They have virtually no shape. If you don't beleive me, look at the dog kennel that overwhelms the photo gallery everyday, if you paid for your membership. I don't criticize anyone for their lack of taste. However, when you come over here and dare to compare THAT to what we have here, I have to tell you to please, please, please, discuss that BS in the Asian boards. IMHO, your opinion is valid, but the women in asia are flat, flat, flat; latinas pride themselves in looking hyperfemenine, with curves in all the right places. No comparison except that the are women.

[QUOTE=Polyorchid; 1345242]You have obviously never been to the Philippines. Mate, for my money, it is home to the most beautiful girls on the planet, and as a 65 year-old, I am always dating girls 18-25 if I like.

Now if they would only learn cooking from the Thais.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1345208]First let me say "Good For Us!" this recent subject matter did not devolve into a Young vs Old gringo flame battle. Signs of life!

I'm usually on the young side of the argument.

Let's focus on what is important in the last few posts.

Bart nailed some of the most obvious IMO:

1) Lose the gut=be the best you can be. NOBODY likes a fat slob! If you have a few extra LBS. Develop a funny and outgoing personality!

2) Dress nice, get a new shirt and not one with a huge design / pattern. If your best shirt has glitter, sparkles, looks like a tribal tattoo; you need a new shirt! Hahhaha! I don't think if you're 50 you should dress 35. What does 35 dress like? Let's shoot for classic, nice jeans (no rips or tears because if you do you'll look like the dude from Aerosmith = Trying too hard) , a new clean pair of sneakers for casual chilling and a set of nice brown shoes if you like to get a bit dressy / workish, a nice golf / polo shirt, a new cool tee shirt.

3) Lord I don't know how this is not obvious to EVERYBODY, personal grooming is key. I'd like to add breath, have gum, mints, breath spray on hand.

4) Be funny and nice! Do not be cheap!

5) Get a clue. Or be as cool as you can be. I've been up in Parque Gringo and have seen some WEAK game being spit and the look in the girls eyes of "what is this loser gringo saying to me?", for example, This dude in a bar saying to a Chica: "Do you know who you look like, Sofia Lauren!" Now SL was one of the hottest girls EVER IMO but this 20? Year old Colombian chick would have 0% chance of knowing who that is! How is she supposed to understand the joke / complement? Another; I was on a double date with my buddy Joey in the states, he commented that he needed a hair cut and said that he would shave his head but didn't want to look like the singer form Midnight Oil. WHO? A 1 hit wonder form the 80s? Both the girls where BORN in the 80s! If you are to date a younger girl you have to be versed in some of the up to date stuff in popular culture.

6) Smile and Laugh! But don't laugh at your own jokes first! That's a sign of a lack of self confidence.

I'm sure I"m missing more of the foundation stuff but this is a good start for most of the clueless.[/QUOTE]Hey Slamcity we both forgot to add "Speak some Spanish" on our lists. Its amazing just saying "you are very beautiful","I love your beautiful long hair"," I love your smile", will take you with a chica. Everybody loves compliments.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1345208]First let me say "Good For Us!" this recent subject matter did not devolve into a Young vs Old gringo flame battle. Signs of life!

I'm usually on the young side of the argument.

Let's focus on what is important in the last few posts.

Bart nailed some of the most obvious IMO:

1) Lose the gut=be the best you can be. NOBODY likes a fat slob! If you have a few extra LBS. Develop a funny and outgoing personality!

2) Dress nice, get a new shirt and not one with a huge design / pattern. If your best shirt has glitter, sparkles, looks like a tribal tattoo; you need a new shirt! Hahhaha! I don't think if you're 50 you should dress 35. What does 35 dress like? Let's shoot for classic, nice jeans (no rips or tears because if you do you'll look like the dude from Aerosmith = Trying too hard) , a new clean pair of sneakers for casual chilling and a set of nice brown shoes if you like to get a bit dressy / workish, a nice golf / polo shirt, a new cool tee shirt.

3) Lord I don't know how this is not obvious to EVERYBODY, personal grooming is key. I'd like to add breath, have gum, mints, breath spray on hand.

4) Be funny and nice! Do not be cheap!

5) Get a clue. Or be as cool as you can be. I've been up in Parque Gringo and have seen some WEAK game being spit and the look in the girls eyes of "what is this loser gringo saying to me?", for example, This dude in a bar saying to a Chica: "Do you know who you look like, Sofia Lauren!" Now SL was one of the hottest girls EVER IMO but this 20? Year old Colombian chick would have 0% chance of knowing who that is! How is she supposed to understand the joke / complement? Another; I was on a double date with my buddy Joey in the states, he commented that he needed a hair cut and said that he would shave his head but didn't want to look like the singer form Midnight Oil. WHO? A 1 hit wonder form the 80s? Both the girls where BORN in the 80s! If you are to date a younger girl you have to be versed in some of the up to date stuff in popular culture.

6) Smile and Laugh! But don't laugh at your own jokes first! That's a sign of a lack of self confidence.

I'm sure I"m missing more of the foundation stuff but this is a good start for most of the clueless.[/QUOTE]In other words Slam; don't be a dweeb hahaha.

Young, old, somewhere in the middle, whatever; it's all in the presentation.

Like you say; fun, cool, personality, sincere, nice, spanish, humor, clean, generous, etc.

These girls are sweet, most of them anyway. They want to like you; just don't be dweeb.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1345471]Hey Slamcity we both forgot to add "Speak some Spanish" on our lists. Its amazing just saying "you are very beautiful","I love your beautiful long hair"," I love your smile", will take you with a chica. Everybody loves compliments.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Yes! We both forgot Spanish language skills!

Spanish skills are a must and most girls speak 1% or less English.

This one time in a club I quoted Depeache Mode's "Enjoy the Silence"! I told her in spanish "You're all I ever needed, All I ever wanted, here in my arms!" she melted into a puddle of hot pussy juice and we couldn't wait to get back to my place. SERIOUS making out in the Taxi!

[url]http://youtu.be/Qf6l2xBnE1Y[/url]

*FOR THE NEWBS. This is not the DR or Asia! There is no novelty for dating a gringo in Colombia any more. So if you don't speak Spanish and you want to date a "regular" girl than you'd better be tall, rich, and handsome like Tom Brady! Or pay the $50 and get a Rosetastone program!

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1345555]Hahaha. Yes! We both forgot Spanish language skills!

Spanish skills are a must and most girls speak 1% or less English.

This one time in a club I quoted Depeache Mode's "Enjoy the Silence"! I told her in spanish "You're all I ever needed, All I ever wanted, here in my arms!" she melted into a puddle of hot pussy juice and we couldn't wait to get back to my place. SERIOUS making out in the Taxi!

[url]http://youtu.be/Qf6l2xBnE1Y[/url]

*FOR THE NEWBS. This is not the DR or Asia! There is no novelty for dating a gringo in Colombia any more. So if you don't speak Spanish and you want to date a "regular" girl than you'd better be tall, rich, and handsome like Tom Brady! Or pay the $50 and get a Rosetastone program![/QUOTE]Forget Depeache Mode. If you REALLY want a Colombian woman to melt into pussy juice, learn the lyrics to Spanish songs, especially the old "baladas" or vallenato songs, or "salsa romantica", and if you can sing these lyrics a bit, even better. But this takes great spanish skills and a genuine love for the music.

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo;1345752]Forget Depeache Mode. If you REALLY want a Colombian woman to melt into pussy juice, learn the lyrics to Spanish songs, especially the old "baladas" or vallenato songs, or "salsa romantica", and if you can sing these lyrics a bit, even better. But this takes great spanish skills and a genuine love for the music.[/QUOTE]I agree.

This will sound corny, but I learned the words and sing the song by the Backstreet Boys, Nunca te hare Llorar. (I'll never make you cry)

I know, I know, the Backstreet Boys really?

But damn if it doesn't melt even the hardest muchacha, and it's fun.

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo;1345752]Forget Depeache Mode. If you REALLY want a Colombian woman to melt into pussy juice, learn the lyrics to Spanish songs, especially the old "baladas" or vallenato songs, or "salsa romantica", and if you can sing these lyrics a bit, even better. But this takes great spanish skills and a genuine love for the music.[/QUOTE]Well I can't sing and if I did the room would clear. I think you're missing my point. It's not what you say it's how you say it!

[QUOTE=Senor G;1345105]What kind of drugs are you hallucinating on? Are you sure you were in Cartagena? The beaches are not even close to being nice, and the water is a sewage pit, and that is no exaggeration.[/QUOTE]The beaches of Bocagrande and El Laguito aren't like those you would find in Hawaii, Florida, Cayman Island, Thailand, but they aren't that bad. The water isn't crystal clear, but I wouldn't call it a sewage pit. I spent 3-4 hours a day swimming in the ocean for 5 days without any ill-effect and I didn't seen any evidence of sewage or trash that would make it a "sewage pit." The ocean currents help flush things out. I've been told that if it hasn't rained in awhile, the water can get somewhat "iffy," but that's a similar problem that I found in other areas like Phuket, Thailand. At some of the more popular beaches of Bocagrande, they rake the beach sand which kills that sand insect which is a nuisance.

Now the beaches around the old city of Cartagena, I'd avoid those.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1345997]Well I can't sing and if I did the room would clear. I think you're missing my point. It's not what you say it's how you say it![/QUOTE]Didn't miss your point, not at all. Just sayin' that the vast majority of Colombian women will be more impressed with lyrics from old baladas, vallenato and salsa romantica than lyrics from Depeche Mode. But, if Depeche Mode works for you, more power to ya'.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1345555]Hahaha. Yes! We both forgot Spanish language skills!

Spanish skills are a must and most girls speak 1% or less English.

This one time in a club I quoted Depeache Mode's "Enjoy the Silence"! I told her in spanish "You're all I ever needed, All I ever wanted, here in my arms!" she melted into a puddle of hot pussy juice and we couldn't wait to get back to my place. SERIOUS making out in the Taxi!

[url]http://youtu.be/Qf6l2xBnE1Y[/url]

*FOR THE NEWBS. This is not the DR or Asia! There is no novelty for dating a gringo in Colombia any more. So if you don't speak Spanish and you want to date a "regular" girl than you'd better be tall, rich, and handsome like Tom Brady! Or pay the $50 and get a Rosetastone program![/QUOTE]Where the hell do you get Rosetta stone for $50? Last time I checked, thay wanted 5, or 6 hundred. I found it for $15, in the DR, but figured it was a demo, when it stopped working after 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=Mongerman69;1346305]Where the hell do you get Rosetta stone for $50? Last time I checked, thay wanted 5, or 6 hundred. I found it for $15, in the DR, but figured it was a demo, when it stopped working after 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]Why do I bother posting here? Why do members focus on little details instead of the larger message or content? Are you guys that clueless to life and women?

$50 was a typo. $500 what was meant. That is on me and I'll stand up for it. Bud did you not read the part about finding a torrent client and getting the program for free? Hello McFly! FREE! I even told you to NOT share after you got the file to avoid any possible legal ramifications! Dude seriously! Step into the future! Use the "Interweb" for actual things other than free porn and how to find hookers (foreign and or domestic!)!

So recap, You can spend $500 (Five Hundred, no typo LOL) on Rosetta Sonte or spend 15 min finding a Torrent client (for you old guys there is a wikipiedia page so you don't have to be afraid of new things!) and then another 15 min finding a healthy and active torrent. Spend $500 or 30 min. Up to you; I can do no more.

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo;1346130]Didn't miss your point, not at all. Just sayin' that the vast majority of Colombian women will be more impressed with lyrics from old baladas, vallenato and salsa romantica than lyrics from Depeche Mode. But, if Depeche Mode works for you, more power to ya'.[/QUOTE]Sir, with all due respect yes YOU DID miss my point. I was just trying to share a cool and fun story with the board and once again ya'll get bogged down in some other bullshit. Let me explain; It's funny that I used old song lyrics to romance a PYT in Colombia: why funny? Because she had no idea they were song lyrics and that it worked! I told her in the NATURAL flow of our romantic evening that "She was all I ever wanted, All I ever need, Here in my arms" and she melted! I could have used any old romantic song but I happened to use those!

Now you "just saying" that you will be able to incorporate old ballads, vallenato, ect song lyrics into your conversation and this will some how make you more fuckable to her? How? In what way is this organic and or in the natural flow of a conversation? Now if you're dancing with the girl and you know the lyrics and can sing along that is clutch and would work. But to say they'd be "impressed" that you know some old song is just not realistic. Would it work in America? You know the lyrics to "The Electric Slide" and some white girl is going to suck your dick? NO!

Say that out loud: "I am going to use old.corney song lyrics that she KNOWS and has heard 1000 times to "impress" her and then she'll want to sleep with me?

You kidding me? No Fucking way! What you going to wait and PRAY to God that they happen to play a song you have memorized at the club? PLUS you happen to be dancing with a girl when the song comes on? Can you not see the difference between the two examples? Natural flow of conversation vs forced and contrived. It's like coming up with a joke that is appropriate and off the top of your head that is delivered with impeccable timing vs a joke you have prepared and is forced into a conversation (Square Peg x Round Hole). The first is funny and wins the day and makes friends, the second is a momentum stopper and makes shit awkward.

Try this; look at the girls perspective.

ME: "Ay dios mio! This gringo just told me that he needs me, and has always wanted a girl like me, and he's holding me in his arms right here and right now"

You: "Ay que feo, this guy can't sing OR dance and he's screaming this old ass song that my parents like in my ear. I might have fucked him but he's blow it!"

Now if you can sing the old songs (or sing in general) that is impressive: AS LONG as it does not feel forced or contrived!

Hey guys.

I heard from a buddy in Medellin last night that the police have recently been closing down the bar scene, as well as the street scene, at the Mayo, right at midnight.

Not the usual, shut the bars down and continue with the street party and fun, but booting everyone off the strip closed down.

Anyone have recent intel on that? Within the last week or so.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1346534]Not the usual, shut the bars down and continue with the street party and fun, but booting everyone off the strip closed down.

Anyone have recent intel on that? Within the last week or so.[/QUOTE]Here was the scene on the Mayo strip. The bars were banned to have tables and chairs on the Mayo sidewalk, with the exception for the restaurants at the other end. Bars Monterey and Los Cristales have expanded the interior to accommodate as a consequence. All (bars and restaurants) opened until 2am on Friday night, until 1am on Saturday, and until midnight for the rest. Street party was like before, unaffected. Police presence was unnoticeable. Bar Veruzka played x-rated movies on two TVs, one in front and the other on the dance floor in the back. It'd be too bad if they shut it down completely because I liked to hang around and enjoyed the street scene after hours sometimes until sunrise. Nonetheless,

Cheers to all.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1346361]Why do I bother posting here? Why do members focus on little details instead of the larger message or content? Are you guys that clueless to life and women?

$50 was a typo. $500 what was meant. That is on me and I'll stand up for it. Bud did you not read the part about finding a torrent client and getting the program for free? Hello McFly! FREE! I even told you to NOT share after you got the file to avoid any possible legal ramifications! Dude seriously! Step into the future! Use the "Interweb" for actual things other than free porn and how to find hookers (foreign and or domestic!)!

So recap, You can spend $500 (Five Hundred, no typo LOL) on Rosetta Sonte or spend 15 min finding a Torrent client (for you old guys there is a wikipiedia page so you don't have to be afraid of new things!) and then another 15 min finding a healthy and active torrent. Spend $500 or 30 min. Up to you; I can do no more.

Sir, with all due respect yes YOU DID miss my point. I was just trying to share a cool and fun story with the board and once again ya'll get bogged down in some other bullshit. Let me explain; It's funny that I used old song lyrics to romance a PYT in Colombia: why funny? Because she had no idea they were song lyrics and that it worked! I told her in the NATURAL flow of our romantic evening that "She was all I ever wanted, All I ever need, Here in my arms" and she melted! I could have used any old romantic song but I happened to use those!

Now you "just saying" that you will be able to incorporate old ballads, vallenato, ect song lyrics into your conversation and this will some how make you more fuckable to her? How? In what way is this organic and or in the natural flow of a conversation? Now if you're dancing with the girl and you know the lyrics and can sing along that is clutch and would work. But to say they'd be "impressed" that you know some old song is just not realistic. Would it work in America? You know the lyrics to "The Electric Slide" and some white girl is going to suck your dick? NO!

Say that out loud: "I am going to use old. Corney song lyrics that she KNOWS and has heard 1000 times to "impress" her and then she'll want to sleep with me?

You kidding me? No Fucking way! What you going to wait and PRAY to God that they happen to play a song you have memorized at the club? PLUS you happen to be dancing with a girl when the song comes on? Can you not see the difference between the two examples? Natural flow of conversation vs forced and contrived. It's like coming up with a joke that is appropriate and off the top of your head that is delivered with impeccable timing vs a joke you have prepared and is forced into a conversation (Square Peg x Round Hole). The first is funny and wins the day and makes friends, the second is a momentum stopper and makes shit awkward.

Try this; look at the girls perspective.

ME: "Ay dios mio! This gringo just told me that he needs me, and has always wanted a girl like me, and he's holding me in his arms right here and right now"

You: "Ay que feo, this guy can't sing OR dance and he's screaming this old ass song that my parents like in my ear. I might have fucked him but he's blow it!"

Now if you can sing the old songs (or sing in general) that is impressive: AS LONG as it does not feel forced or contrived![/QUOTE]Funny shit, the famous MDE board burnout. Now you understand why guys stop posting and just lurk (like me). We often ask ourself "why bother?". You can educate these guys all day to learn the language and culture, don't dress like a gringo and branch out, only to find out they only leave the mansion to go to Parque Illeras and back to the mansion. Where is MHL, Cubannut, Mr Gogo etc? Probably in Colombia having a ball, quiet as kept.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1347021]Here was the scene on the Mayo strip. The bars were banned to have tables and chairs on the Mayo sidewalk, with the exception for the restaurants at the other end. Bars Monterey and Los Cristales have expanded the interior to accommodate as a consequence. All (bars and restaurants) opened until 2am on Friday night, until 1am on Saturday, and until midnight for the rest. Street party was like before, unaffected. Police presence was unnoticeable. Bar Veruzka played x-rated movies on two TVs, one in front and the other on the dance floor in the back. It'd be too bad if they shut it down completely because I liked to hang around and enjoyed the street scene after hours sometimes until sunrise. Nonetheless,

Cheers to all.[/QUOTE]Thanks amigo!

Appreciate the update.

[QUOTE=Mongerman69;1346305]Where the hell do you get Rosetta stone for $50? Last time I checked, thay wanted 5, or 6 hundred. I found it for $15, in the DR, but figured it was a demo, when it stopped working after 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]Actually, you can get it for free if you have the know-how (cough).

Thanks for the report!

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1347021]Here was the scene on the Mayo strip. The bars were banned to have tables and chairs on the Mayo sidewalk, with the exception for the restaurants at the other end. Bars Monterey and Los Cristales have expanded the interior to accommodate as a consequence. All (bars and restaurants) opened until 2am on Friday night, until 1am on Saturday, and until midnight for the rest. Street party was like before, unaffected. Police presence was unnoticeable. Bar Veruzka played x-rated movies on two TVs, one in front and the other on the dance floor in the back. It'd be too bad if they shut it down completely because I liked to hang around and enjoyed the street scene after hours sometimes until sunrise. Nonetheless,

Cheers to all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1346361]Why do I bother posting here? Why do members focus on little details instead of the larger message or content? Are you guys that clueless to life and women?

$50 was a typo. $500 what was meant. That is on me and I'll stand up for it. Bud did you not read the part about finding a torrent client and getting the program for free? Hello McFly! FREE! I even told you to NOT share after you got the file to avoid any possible legal ramifications! Dude seriously! Step into the future! Use the "Interweb" for actual things other than free porn and how to find hookers (foreign and or domestic!)!

So recap, You can spend $500 (Five Hundred, no typo LOL) on Rosetta Sonte or spend 15 min finding a Torrent client (for you old guys there is a wikipiedia page so you don't have to be afraid of new things!) and then another 15 min finding a healthy and active torrent. Spend $500 or 30 min. Up to you; I can do no more.

Sir, with all due respect yes YOU DID miss my point. I was just trying to share a cool and fun story with the board and once again ya'll get bogged down in some other bullshit. Let me explain; It's funny that I used old song lyrics to romance a PYT in Colombia: why funny? Because she had no idea they were song lyrics and that it worked! I told her in the NATURAL flow of our romantic evening that "She was all I ever wanted, All I ever need, Here in my arms" and she melted! I could have used any old romantic song but I happened to use those!

Now you "just saying" that you will be able to incorporate old ballads, vallenato, ect song lyrics into your conversation and this will some how make you more fuckable to her? How? In what way is this organic and or in the natural flow of a conversation? Now if you're dancing with the girl and you know the lyrics and can sing along that is clutch and would work. But to say they'd be "impressed" that you know some old song is just not realistic. Would it work in America? You know the lyrics to "The Electric Slide" and some white girl is going to suck your dick? NO!

Say that out loud: "I am going to use old. Corney song lyrics that she KNOWS and has heard 1000 times to "impress" her and then she'll want to sleep with me?

You kidding me? No Fucking way! What you going to wait and PRAY to God that they happen to play a song you have memorized at the club? PLUS you happen to be dancing with a girl when the song comes on? Can you not see the difference between the two examples? Natural flow of conversation vs forced and contrived. It's like coming up with a joke that is appropriate and off the top of your head that is delivered with impeccable timing vs a joke you have prepared and is forced into a conversation (Square Peg x Round Hole). The first is funny and wins the day and makes friends, the second is a momentum stopper and makes shit awkward.

Try this; look at the girls perspective.

ME: "Ay dios mio! This gringo just told me that he needs me, and has always wanted a girl like me, and he's holding me in his arms right here and right now"

You: "Ay que feo, this guy can't sing OR dance and he's screaming this old ass song that my parents like in my ear. I might have fucked him but he's blow it!"

Now if you can sing the old songs (or sing in general) that is impressive: AS LONG as it does not feel forced or contrived![/QUOTE]Slamcity777.

Thank you. Never thought about grabbing it this way. Downloading 1, 2 & 3 as I am typing this message. I thank you very much. By the time I click upload, I should have the software.

RR

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1347028]Funny shit, the famous MDE board burnout. Now you understand why guys stop posting and just lurk (like me). We often ask ourself "why bother?". You can educate these guys all day to learn the language and culture, don't dress like a gringo and branch out, only to find out they only leave the mansion to go to Parque Illeras and back to the mansion. Where is MHL, Cubannut, Mr Gogo etc? Probably in Colombia having a ball, quiet as kept.[/QUOTE]Thank you Goo! There should be a pop up when you click on the Colombia page: With basic info, No Spanish=No regular, You can get money out of the ATM for the best rates (depending if you bank has back end fees) , Stay at the Masion if it's your first time in Town, they'll smooth your transition. Ect, ect, ect. I"m sure I'm forgetting more of the cliches that plague the Colombia boards.

I hope it's OK that I PM you about the DR? I plan on going. And soon!

[QUOTE=RonnyRon; 1347516]Slamcity777.

Thank you. Never thought about grabbing it this way. Downloading 1, 2 & 3 as I am typing this message. I thank you very much. By the time I click upload, I should have the software.

RR[/QUOTE]Dude get the name right! It's Slamcity7777! Just kidding! You are very welcome and I am glad somebody actually reads my posts instead of skimming thro them looking for tiny details to focus in on and then later ***** about something unimportant. Remember it is when you "share" the file is when the PIGS send their lawyers out. If you read all the blogs and news blurbs about people getting sued for P2P and fined big numbers it's when they "seed" or share a large number of files for long periods of time. You have been warned!

If you are a member of a torrent community only seed till you have shared the exact amount of data you down loaded so you keep a decent ratio. Chances are slim but hey. Why take the chance?

RonnyRon please post back if everything works out for you. I'm sure some of the other guys would like to know what up too.

There have been debates about Global Economy and Rosetta Stone. I miss those good reports about Medellin and it's very hot females. I have already Rosetta Stone and I have wasted years on Economic Theory, before starting to travel regulary to Latinamerica.

Mja, I use Romancelatina and Cupid sites before arriving. I think those babes that are offering their services are very hot.

Well, I need, and many with me, that somebody of you, present in Medellin Paradise Now, to right some reports. How has things evolved lately on the sex-front?

Hey Slamcity maybe Ronny Ron was punning you when he dropped the "7" from your handle in reference to you having the typo dropping the "0" on the Rosetta Stone price

I should say I'm greatful for the advice. I've been trying to figure out how to get out of paying for it for months. Now if I can only figure out WTF a torrent is.

If you like flacas like me, I found a new spot. I think they are another Fantasias location. Very convenient spot on Oriental. Can't miss it with bright pink curtains flying in the breeze from the third floor.

Crr 46 (oriental) 57A-21.

5 girls. I only saw three. One was a little worn out looking but the other 2 were 7s) I like Alejandra

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1347524]There have been debates about Global Economy and Rosetta Stone. I miss those good reports about Medellin and it's very hot females. I have already Rosetta Stone and I have wasted years on Economic Theory, before starting to travel regulary to Latinamerica.

Mja, I use Romancelatina and Cupid sites before arriving. I think those babes that are offering their services are very hot.

Well, I need, and many with me, that somebody of you, present in Medellin Paradise Now, to right some reports. How has things evolved lately on the sex-front?[/QUOTE]100% in agreement. I am interested in whats happening good, bad and new in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1347021]Here was the scene on the Mayo strip. The bars were banned to have tables and chairs on the Mayo sidewalk, with the exception for the restaurants at the other end. Bars Monterey and Los Cristales have expanded the interior to accommodate as a consequence. All (bars and restaurants) opened until 2am on Friday night, until 1am on Saturday, and until midnight for the rest. Street party was like before, unaffected. Police presence was unnoticeable. Bar Veruzka played x-rated movies on two TVs, one in front and the other on the dance floor in the back. It'd be too bad if they shut it down completely because I liked to hang around and enjoyed the street scene after hours sometimes until sunrise. Nonetheless,

Cheers to all.[/QUOTE]I hit the Mayo last night.

Was just as you described, no problem.

I spoke with the Policia that showed up.

They said the bars will close, on Thurs at 1am, Fri-Sat at 2pm, the rest of the week at Midnight.

The chicas and guys can roam the street 24 hours if they like.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1348033]If you like flacas like me, I found a new spot. I think they are another Fantasias location. Very convenient spot on Oriental. Can't miss it with bright pink curtains flying in the breeze from the third floor.

Crr 46 (oriental) 57A-21.

5 girls. I only saw three. One was a little worn out looking but the other 2 were 7s) I like Alejandra[/QUOTE]I happened to be walking around that area yesterday, so I popped in for a looksy.

5 chicas presented, for my tastes. 2 were pretty nice.

I had fun with Jessica, nice flaquita.

Ok rooms too.

Normal area pricing.

I have been contemplating a long time about a Colombia trip, trying determine how profitable it would be for me. Nevertheless, I'm very eager to make this trip.

So I have never been to South america and I have no idea what to expect, except for the beautiful girls. Here is what I want to ask being a Black-American I wonder is racism an issue in Colombia, from the public and the girls? Second, I understand Spanish is imperative but how far do you really get with English, e. G taxi, hotels, restaurants? Are girls non-cooperative if you don't speak great spanish? I intend to learn the very basics to get attention and convey what I want in Spanish but long convo won't be possible probably. This trip will be most likely with a friend who also doesn't speak Spanish.

Lastly, is Medellin the more fun place or is Bogota safer for a newbie? I know I have a tons of question but I appreciate everyone that gets answered.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Jayson01; 1349023]I have been contemplating a long time about a Colombia trip, trying determine how profitable it would be for me. Nevertheless, I'm very eager to make this trip.

So I have never been to South america and I have no idea what to expect, except for the beautiful girls. Here is what I want to ask being a Black-American I wonder is racism an issue in Colombia, from the public and the girls? Second, I understand Spanish is imperative but how far do you really get with English, e. G taxi, hotels, restaurants? Are girls non-cooperative if you don't speak great spanish? I intend to learn the very basics to get attention and convey what I want in Spanish but long convo won't be possible probably. This trip will be most likely with a friend who also doesn't speak Spanish.

Lastly, is Medellin the more fun place or is Bogota safer for a newbie? I know I have a tons of question but I appreciate everyone that gets answered.

Cheers![/QUOTE]First pay the membership fee and we will give you all the info you need brother.

1) Your race would have marginal or no impact on the game. Whether you are a good looking guy or not would have a lot of impact.

2) Many gringos at Mansion and others don't speak Spanish at all. You can buy pampering services and survive w / o speaking Spanish. But if you want to have fun, learn Spanish, as well as Colombian history and culture. Would it be fun to have a sex with girls whom you cannot have a conversation at all?

3) Medellin first. More numerous and more organized services.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Jayson01; 1349023]I have been contemplating a long time about a Colombia trip, trying determine how profitable it would be for me. Lsewhere Nevertheless, I'm very eager to make this trip.

So I have never been to South america and I have no idea what to expect, except for the beautiful girls. Here is what I want to ask being a Black-American I wonder is racism an issue in Colombia, from the public and the girls? Second, I understand Spanish is imperative but how far do you really get with English, e. G taxi, hotels, restaurants? Are girls non-cooperative if you don't speak great spanish? I intend to learn the very basics to get attention and convey what I want in Spanish but long convo won't be possible probably. This trip will be most likely with a friend who also doesn't speak Spanish.

Lastly, is Medellin the more fun place or is Bogota safer for a newbie? I know I have a tons of question but I appreciate everyone that gets answered.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jayson01; 1349023]I have been contemplating a long time about a Colombia trip, trying determine how profitable it would be for me. Nevertheless, I'm very eager to make this trip.

So I have never been to South america and I have no idea what to expect, except for the beautiful girls. Here is what I want to ask being a Black-American I wonder is racism an issue in Colombia, from the public and the girls? Second, I understand Spanish is imperative but how far do you really get with English, e. G taxi, hotels, restaurants? Are girls non-cooperative if you don't speak great spanish? I intend to learn the very basics to get attention and convey what I want in Spanish but long convo won't be possible probably. This trip will be most likely with a friend who also doesn't speak Spanish.

Lastly, is Medellin the more fun place or is Bogota safer for a newbie? I know I have a tons of question but I appreciate everyone that gets answered.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Hey Jay, do not worry about being black, but to answer your question very accurately, you would probably fit in Ctg better since it has the most african decendants in all Colombia, but one thing I can tell you though from Colombian friends stories whom are black, is that when they visit cities up in the mountains like Medellin and Bogota they are probably the only 2 black men there in the whole area, the advantage to that is that if you play your game right and dress very cool you know what I mean, nike shoes and cool outfits, girls there think you are either an actor or a sports person, even a hiphop star or a reggaetton singer which will result in lots of attention and booty in your favor. Between Medellin and Bogota, I recommend Medellin, cleaner city and nicer weather, go ahead and buy your membership and get all the info you can, don't forget to consider Ctg after your visit to Medellin.

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1349288]1) Would it be fun to have a sex with girls whom you cannot have a conversation at all?[/QUOTE]YES, Actually, I prefer to keep the talking to a minimum!

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1349293]YES, Actually, I prefer to keep the talking to a minimum![/QUOTE]Yep, the pure sex of course doesn't require any conversation at all.

I'm one, however, that likes to build a little rapport with a girl, whether it be a casa girl, street girl, Mansion girl, higher end girl, regular girl, etc.

To some naturally, the rapport doesn't matter at all.

I find the sexual event is much better when there's at least even a little energy and chemestry between you.

While I agree with Ricker that facility with Spanish
will improve the GFE experience, plenty of guys enjoy
MDE with little or no Spanish. Good idea to learn a
few basics, but unless you're going spend lots of
time in Spain, or Latin America, going beyond the

Basics may not make sense.

Race likely won't matter.

I can't comment on Bogota. The cold weather
is enough reason for me to stay away.

[quote=combo; 1349322]while i agree with ricker that facility with spanish.

will improve the gfe experience, plenty of guys enjoy.

mde with little or no spanish. good idea to learn a

few basics, but unless you're going spend lots of.

time in spain, or latin america, going beyond the

basics may not make sense.

race likely won't matter.

i can't comment on bogota. the cold weather.

is enough reason for me to stay away.[/quote]i agree, race will not matter, however, it never hurts to continue to better your spanish.

of course you do not need to be able to speek spanish to enjoy medellin, however, as we all know, once you experience colombia and medellin, you will most likely return and as often as you can, soooooo going beyond the basics certainly makes sense.

when does it ever hurt to learn a foreign language?

the experience when able to communicate is exponentially better.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1349367]The experience when able to communicate is exponentially better.[/QUOTE]My perference, when paying a prepago, is to have her use her mouth for purposes other than conversation,

Great to hear that most people think race will not be an issue, which is in contrast to what I have sensed from other places around the web. But I guess as a "gringo" it would be hard to say, I`ve seen people saying as Medellin has the strongest concentration of people with Spanish heritage and black being rare, one can only imagine the ignorance. But I have met a Colombian before and she had the sweetest personality so I can only hope for more of this. Which makes me wonder are LT common and reasonable? Any tips on the best and safest places to stay for this business?

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1349288]1) Your race would have marginal or no impact on the game. Whether you are a good looking guy or not would have a lot of impact.

2) Many gringos at Mansion and others don't speak Spanish at all. You can buy pampering services and survive w / o speaking Spanish. But if you want to have fun, learn Spanish, as well as Colombian history and culture. Would it be fun to have a sex with girls whom you cannot have a conversation at all?

3) Medellin first. More numerous and more organized services.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

1. Interesting to hear that you think good looks will have an impact. I would think that they are only after my pocket, I guess I should dress well.

2) Couldn't agree more, to really experience a person you also have to communicate and maybe share a laugh with the person. I do intent to try this at least. Otherwise I would go to Amsterdam where is all mechanical.

3) Can't wait to explore this argument further, I assume the girls are also better looking and more open perhaps.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1349394]My perference, when paying a prepago, is to have her use her mouth for purposes other than conversation,[/QUOTE]Good for you!

[QUOTE=Jayson01; 1349023]I have been contemplating a long time about a Colombia trip, trying determine how profitable it would be for me. Nevertheless, I'm very eager to make this trip.

So I have never been to South america and I have no idea what to expect, except for the beautiful girls. Here is what I want to ask being a Black-American I wonder is racism an issue in Colombia, from the public and the girls? Second, I understand Spanish is imperative but how far do you really get with English, e. G taxi, hotels, restaurants? Are girls non-cooperative if you don't speak great spanish? I intend to learn the very basics to get attention and convey what I want in Spanish but long convo won't be possible probably. This trip will be most likely with a friend who also doesn't speak Spanish.

Lastly, is Medellin the more fun place or is Bogota safer for a newbie? I know I have a tons of question but I appreciate everyone that gets answered.

Cheers![/QUOTE]I had the same concerns (racism) that you have when I was thinking about making my first trip. I think most of the guys here have already answered the question but from my personal experience, if you're cool and easy going then the girls are cool and easy going. Put another way I've never had a girl in Medellin not take my money. As mentioned the girls like to have a good time and joke around so if you can speak a little of the language it does add to the experience. In any case take the plunge, you will not be disappointed.

I was in Medellin for 10 days about a month ago I stayed at the Mansion 1 for the first 3 days. On the second day there a group of friends arrived at the mansion about 6 all of them African Americans. I talk to them a few times at the bar in the mansion and they told me they been going to Medellin for a few years and they always have a blast I bump into them a few times at different club and into other African Americans and I never saw any of them been treated any different from the other gringos including my self. And at the mansion one night I heard the girls talking about the 6 amigos and they think all black are big spender so they were trying really hard to get their attention (I guess they been watching 2 many rap videos were they make it rain).

About the looks well looks help everywhere especially if you are looking for the "GFE" but at the end is all about the money and sometime the possible Visa. I personally go for the "CSE" (Charlie Sheen Experience). Oh if is your first time stay at the Mansion.

Ps and this is to everyone else I haven't read the board in a while since before the trip but before I left there was some talk about the famous one (Demi Moore) people didn't know if she was still working or not well she is still working she is a decent fuck when she is sober and a pretty good thief. (big rookie mistake left my wallet out of the safe when I went into the shower and left her in the room) but if you are careful she likes to party and if you don't mind the stretch marks she not bad looking. The mansion is good for first timers but that's about it I guess I got there a few years 2 late not the party place that I read so mush about.

[QUOTE=Jayson01; 1349400]Great to hear that most people think race will not be an issue, which is in contrast to what I have sensed from other places around the web. But I guess as a "gringo" it would be hard to say, I`ve seen people saying as Medellin has the strongest concentration of people with Spanish heritage and black being rare, one can only imagine the ignorance. But I have met a Colombian before and she had the sweetest personality so I can only hope for more of this. Which makes me wonder are LT common and reasonable? Any tips on the best and safest places to stay for this business?

Thank you.

1. Interesting to hear that you think good looks will have an impact. I would think that they are only after my pocket, I guess I should dress well.

2) Couldn't agree more, to really experience a person you also have to communicate and maybe share a laugh with the person. I do intent to try this at least. Otherwise I would go to Amsterdam where is all mechanical.

3) Can't wait to explore this argument further, I assume the girls are also better looking and more open perhaps.[/QUOTE]

I'm an American of Afro-Latino Panamanian decent I have been to Medellin multiple times and I have never ever had a problem in Colombia. Your best bet is to stay in Apartment depending how good you speak the language or just stay in a chica friendly hotel.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;1349400]Great to hear that most people think race will not be an issue, which is in contrast to what I have sensed from other places around the web. But I guess as a "gringo" it would be hard to say, I`ve seen people saying as Medellin has the strongest concentration of people with Spanish heritage and black being rare, one can only imagine the ignorance. But I have met a Colombian before and she had the sweetest personality so I can only hope for more of this. Which makes me wonder are LT common and reasonable? Any tips on the best and safest places to stay for this business?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jayson01;1349400]Great to hear that most people think race will not be an issue, which is in contrast to what I have sensed from other places around the web. But I guess as a "gringo" it would be hard to say, I`ve seen people saying as Medellin has the strongest concentration of people with Spanish heritage and black being rare, one can only imagine the ignorance. But I have met a Colombian before and she had the sweetest personality so I can only hope for more of this. Which makes me wonder are LT common and reasonable? Any tips on the best and safest places to stay for this business? .[/QUOTE]Dude I can understand the race issue being on your mind but as for the rest please do some homework on your own. Where to stay for this business? Does it matter if I speak any Spanish? These two are the questions asked time and time and yes. Time again. Yes it matters if you speak Spanish and Stay at the Mansion / Casa Blanca or what ever it's called now. What is it called now again?

Thanks to all, I got the picture now and I'm much more comfortable planing ahead now. I`ll get back at yall once I have been there.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1349615]Dude I can understand the race issue being on your mind but as for the rest please do some homework on your own. Where to stay for this business? Does it matter if I speak any Spanish? These two are the questions asked time and time and yes. Time again. Yes it matters if you speak Spanish and Stay at the Mansion / Casa Blanca or what ever it's called now. What is it called now again?[/QUOTE]Doing my best to learn basics spanish, its a beautiful language actually.

[QUOTE=Pana Nyc;1349573]I'm an American of Afro-Latino Panamanian decent I have been to Medellin multiple times and I have never ever had a problem in Colombia. Your best bet is to stay in Apartment depending how good you speak the language or just stay in a chica friendly hotel.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear this its another proof for me.

I got some homework to do and read up a little here and there.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1349615]Dude I can understand the race issue being on your mind but as for the rest please do some homework on your own. Where to stay for this business? Does it matter if I speak any Spanish? These two are the questions asked time and time and yes. Time again. Yes it matters if you speak Spanish and Stay at the Mansion / Casa Blanca or what ever it's called now. What is it called now again?[/QUOTE][url]Http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/url]

Has anyone used Juan Carlos recently for airport pickup and chofering around Medellin lately? Going next week and my usual guy is no longer available.

Thanks in advance, Joe

[QUOTE=Average Joe2; 1350469]Has anyone used Juan Carlos recently for airport pickup and chofering around Medellin lately? Going next week and my usual guy is no longer available.

Thanks in advance, Joe[/QUOTE]Ths guy is the Best http://medellinadventuretours.com/tours.htm

I'm checking to see if anyone has heard anything about Colombia making it easier for their people to come to the US or the US making it easier for them.

My chica in Medellin sent me a message today saying that this is so.

But before you answer, you should know that this isn't a W. G. I met her a couple of years ago from a friend of a friend. She has a regular nine hour a day job then goes home to her kids. Nobody's perfect, but she's never asked for money or gifts since I've known her. Now she's letting it be known that she'd like to visit but we both know that she couldn't afford the airfare and that it would be on me. So, I'm not blinded by that 'sweet thing' and I wouldn't mind 'sponsoring' her for a few days. Just looking into the facts. 'Trust But Verify! '

Heading to MDE for the first time Friday-Tuesday. I've mongered in Brasil, Thailand, Cambodia, Aruba and Curacao. Finding out about mongering in the ABC islands via ISG really fueled my lust for Colombianas, so now I'm looking forward to exploring the source. Feel free to private message me if you'll be in town this weekend.

[QUOTE=BlkPanther; 1350799]I'm checking to see if anyone has heard anything about Colombia making it easier for their people to come to the US or the US making it easier for them.

My chica in Medellin sent me a message today saying that this is so.

But before you answer, you should know that this isn't a W. G. I met her a couple of years ago from a friend of a friend. She has a regular nine hour a day job then goes home to her kids. Nobody's perfect, but she's never asked for money or gifts since I've known her. Now she's letting it be known that she'd like to visit but we both know that she couldn't afford the airfare and that it would be on me. So, I'm not blinded by that 'sweet thing' and I wouldn't mind 'sponsoring' her for a few days. Just looking into the facts. 'Trust But Verify! '[/QUOTE]Yo they just invented this thing that is super awesome! It's called Google, it's this magic place where you can gather useful information AND porn. Sounds futuristic but I assure you it's kind of easy to use. Might be a bit hard to find but worth the effort. Look for it. Goo-gle. It's pronounced Goo-gle.

Really? You've got nothing to do with your life than slam a member for asking a civil question? Is your life that empty? I can see if I was trying to insult someone or downgrading someone or something? But this? Asking each other for and exchanging info is why it's called a forum Einstein. If anyone has anything constructive to write, please do so, as I from this moment on, ignore the 'Brainiac' here while he tries to get a life.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1350813]Yo they just invented this thing that is super awesome! It's called Google, it's this magic place where you can gather useful information AND porn. Sounds futuristic but I assure you it's kind of easy to use. Might be a bit hard to find but worth the effort. Look for it. Goo-gle. It's pronounced Goo-gle.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1350813]Yo they just invented this thing that is super awesome! It's called Google, it's this magic place where you can gather useful information AND porn. Sounds futuristic but I assure you it's kind of easy to use. Might be a bit hard to find but worth the effort. Look for it. Goo-gle. It's pronounced Goo-gle.[/QUOTE]I've found this works pretty well for me! [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1_tL-dlnJU[/url]

[QUOTE=BlkPanther;1350799]I'm checking to see if anyone has heard anything about Colombia making it easier for their people to come to the US or the US making it easier for them.[/QUOTE]Nothing has changed on Colombian visas for Americans that I have heard of (and I am in the DAS office frequently). For Colombians wanting to visit the USA they announced an 'easing' during Obama's visit to Colombia. They didn't really make it easier to get the visa, they just indicated that they would be giving longer term visas now (up to 10 yeasrs I think, like other countries). Your girl still has to go through all the hoops: show stability, show economic means to pay for the trip, show reasons why she will return to Colombia (I. E. Kids, family, business) , etc.

-zing

Thanks guy. Appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Zing23; 1350939]Nothing has changed on Colombian visas for Americans that I have heard of (and I am in the DAS office frequently). For Colombians wanting to visit the USA they announced an 'easing' during Obama's visit to Colombia. They didn't really make it easier to get the visa, they just indicated that they would be giving longer term visas now (up to 10 yeasrs I think, like other countries). Your girl still has to go through all the hoops: show stability, show economic means to pay for the trip, show reasons why she will return to Colombia (I. E. Kids, family, business) , etc.

-zing[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlkPanther; 1350799]I'm checking to see if anyone has heard anything about Colombia making it easier for their people to come to the US or the US making it easier for them.

My chica in Medellin sent me a message today saying that this is so.

But before you answer, you should know that this isn't a W. G. I met her a couple of years ago from a friend of a friend. She has a regular nine hour a day job then goes home to her kids. Nobody's perfect, but she's never asked for money or gifts since I've known her. Now she's letting it be known that she'd like to visit but we both know that she couldn't afford the airfare and that it would be on me. So, I'm not blinded by that 'sweet thing' and I wouldn't mind 'sponsoring' her for a few days. Just looking into the facts. 'Trust But Verify! '[/QUOTE]BP, I can tell you that such opinion is certainly making the rounds within Colombia. I first heard it a few months back from a good friend who had her tourist visa application rejected twice in previous years. She'd heard the same as your chica, became somewhat optimistic and applied for the third time; lo and behold she was issued a tourist visa from that 3rd try here a couple of months ago. (Non WG, university degree, office job, stable upper middle class / but not rich family, etc.)

I can't say from verifiable data that the % of applicants issued tourist visas has gone up recently, but for what it's worth, I can tell you that your chica isn't the only one within Colombia who has recently come to believe so, or who is saying they've heard that there's been an easing by the USA

Awhile back someone mentioned a new or unlisted casa at Room 217, Metropol Hotel, the correct address is Calle 47 # 45-11 [originally shown as Cra 45 and Calle 46] I was at the San Antonio Exito store so thot I wud have a look-see. From the entrance of the hotel you can see the Exito store down the hill toward the Metro. The hotel is upscale looking from short time centro hotels, even a pc for guest use in the lobby. So the hotel's appearance is as a 'regular hotel' rather than 'short time only'. On the 2nd floor you see a sign 'Sala 217' you go the left to find the 217 door. Upon entering [door was 1/2 open] U-turn down a short hallway to the reception desk. I was there at 1100, the guy at the desk said their was 3 chicas but all were 'occupado'. The hours are 10 to 10pm. When I asked when there wud be more chicas he said at 3pm. P. S. One block away is a hotel called "Hotel Metro" at Ca46 and Cr46

Today I decided to return to Geisha's Casa at Prado Metro Station. This is probably the most convenient casa due to it's location on the Metro. I went up the stairs and knocked on the door.

Door opened by a Chico who had been through this before, it's no longer home to Geisha's! The poor bastard has to deal with gringos coming to his door for the next few years expecting to hit the chicas, not him. I hope he gets a reduction on his rent!

Anyway, what now? I head up Calle 57 thinking I'll walk over to New Life as thats pretty much a guaranteed good time. On the way, a chica hands me a card for Fantasias, I stop and she points up the stairs next to me. I'm right there, so I figure, I'll try that out. A selection of 5 or so chicas, none were outstanding but a couple were doable. So, I pick Tatiana and head to the room for a session, she was pleasant and accomodating, but not anything to write home about. I noticed that she kicked out the previous chica as we entered the room, but no sheets or pillow cases were changed before our session and the room lacked towels and tissues for cleaning up. Not much opportunity to use the shower without towels.

I guess you can call me unimpressed with Fantasias. So far, Energy is by far the best for talent and facilities, but it is a little inconvenient in its location if you are coming from Poblado. New Life is consistently good and well run.

Just to let everyone know, as we approach Christmas the level of street crime typically increases in Medellin. Guess that everyone wants money for merry-making. One typical scenario comes when you are in a traffic jam. Be sure that you don't have anything valuable in sight, especially high-end phones. The bad guys know that you can't get away and they'll either (a) open the door and take whatever you've got or (be) if the door is locked, they'll pull a pistol and make you open the door, or break the window. Getaway is typically on a motorcycle.

Medellin is great, but watch your ass. Y'all be careful out there, hear?

[QUOTE=Jayson01; 1349809]Doing my best to learn basics spanish, its a beautiful language actually.

Glad to hear this its another proof for me.[/QUOTE]I could fill 2 buckets with the Spanish Cd's I have, here is the best one I have found.

[url]http://learnspanishmeetgirls.wordpress.com/learn-spanish-get-laid-2/[/url]

I agree pretty much with everything you said. Energy is solid and New Life is decent, while personally I do not like the atmosphere of NL. As for "Fantasia," I guess you are talking about Casa De Fantasia. You are right that there is no stunner there. But somehow, every time I go there, I have a good luck and / or GFE. It is my favorite casa. If you like small chicas, this is the casa you want to visit.

[QUOTE=Culebra; 1351195]Today I decided to return to Geisha's Casa at Prado Metro Station. This is probably the most convenient casa due to it's location on the Metro. I went up the stairs and knocked on the door.

Door opened by a Chico who had been through this before, it's no longer home to Geisha's! The poor bastard has to deal with gringos coming to his door for the next few years expecting to hit the chicas, not him. I hope he gets a reduction on his rent!

Anyway, what now? I head up Calle 57 thinking I'll walk over to New Life as thats pretty much a guaranteed good time. On the way, a chica hands me a card for Fantasias, I stop and she points up the stairs next to me. I'm right there, so I figure, I'll try that out. A selection of 5 or so chicas, none were outstanding but a couple were doable. So, I pick Tatiana and head to the room for a session, she was pleasant and accomodating, but not anything to write home about. I noticed that she kicked out the previous chica as we entered the room, but no sheets or pillow cases were changed before our session and the room lacked towels and tissues for cleaning up. Not much opportunity to use the shower without towels.

I guess you can call me unimpressed with Fantasias. So far, Energy is by far the best for talent and facilities, but it is a little inconvenient in its location if you are coming from Poblado. New Life is consistently good and well run.[/QUOTE]

Hello fellow mongers,

Have read in detail the forum. Still missing infos on what are the high end places / casa in MDL? Traveling with executives need to be kind of safe, clean and plenty of silicone. Will appreciate couple of names for the pm (casas) and for the night (stripclub, disco w chicas). Promise detailed post on return

[QUOTE=Ilcent; 1351549]Hello fellow mongers,

Have read in detail the forum. Still missing infos on what are the high end places / casa in MDL? Traveling with executives need to be kind of safe, clean and plenty of silicone. Will appreciate couple of names for the pm (casas) and for the night (stripclub, disco w chicas). Promise detailed post on return[/QUOTE]High end daytime: Loutron, Abydos, Energy (in that order)

High end night time: Fase Dos, Luna Lunera (in that order)

[QUOTE=Infanticide; 1351980]High end daytime: Loutron, Abydos, Energy (in that order)

High end night time: Fase Dos, Luna Lunera (in that order) [/QUOTE]Thank you. This list really boils it down.

A Brazil and DR monger getting my first taste of Colombia starting this weekend and I have high hopes. I will be staying in the el polabo area with a Chica but I will have a couple of days to myself to enjoy the city. I have read some post and look at the casa map and all and from the looks of it there is a lot of fun in this city. There are so many places on that map that I want to ask from the veteran guys here is what are the 4 or 5 places (regular clubs, casas, etc) that you would say are a must visit for a new comer?

For casas, check Energy, New Life and Sexy (Cra 45D). For cheap strip clubs, check the 4 clubs listed on the map. If you like high end places, go to Fase Dos instead. Also you may want to visit Mayorista SW area once. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Mardonius;1352490]A Brazil and DR monger getting my first taste of Colombia starting this weekend and I have high hopes. I will be staying in the el polabo area with a Chica but I will have a couple of days to myself to enjoy the city. I have read some post and look at the casa map and all and from the looks of it there is a lot of fun in this city. There are so many places on that map that I want to ask from the veteran guys here is what are the 4 or 5 places (regular clubs, casas, etc) that you would say are a must visit for a new comer?[/QUOTE]

Hola Gringos!

I am going to Medellin by the end of this year, beginning of next. I really need to book hotel or apartment hotel now. I have been reading here a lot to find tips on accommodations. I've found some tips, but would like more.

I am looking for apartment hotel first of all and second a chica friendly hotel. Quite safe neighborhood. I would like it to be close to casas. And this is where I can't make up my mind. El Centro, close to many casas, but not so safe. El Pablado not close to many casas, but safe. Can I get both safe area and close to many casas?

This is my frist time to Colombia. I have taken Spanish classes since septiembre and it is a lot of fun! I can do basic conversation, enough I think. Still I would like to have a guide some day (s) , that would be a lot of fun I think. Of course I am prepared to pay.

Final note here. I am visiting MFC a lot and one girl from Medellin told me I could stay with her. I don't think it is a good idea. What do you guys think? She is not the most beautiful girl and I have already date (s) with other girls in Medellin. I have probably already made up my mind to say thanks, but no thanks. Still it would be fun to hear what you guys think about this offer.

[QUOTE=XzGuy; 1352684]I am going to Medellin by the end of this year, beginning of next. I really need to book hotel or apartment hotel now. I have been reading here a lot to find tips on accommodations. I've found some tips, but would like more.

I am looking for apartment hotel first of all and second a chica friendly hotel. Quite safe neighborhood. I would like it to be close to casas. And this is where I can't make up my mind. El Centro, close to many casas, but not so safe. El Pablado not close to many casas, but safe. Can I get both safe area and close to many casas?[/QUOTE]Buy a membership from Jackson so you can send and receive messages.

Get a apartment from Bbrocs dba Poblado Rentals, Google search it, he has studios and a two bedroom in Parque Lleras. You will not be close to the casas. If you get the studio make sure it is soundproof, the 2 bedroom if your a big wheel. Hotels? I don't recommend any too much BS.

Bbrocs also has guides that work with him and he can arrange your airport pickup seeing it is your first trip.

Been to Medellin quite a few times but have been pretty laid back on the mongering thing. Looking to change that this time around (this week beginning Thursday). I speak Spanish natively although not Colombian and looking to bang a few chicas that for the most part already "booked". Except some are sharable if you know what I mean. Want the whole gang bang experience. Any one consider joining, I guess I could get locals too but I'd rather have something in common you know.

[QUOTE=Rycos1;1352862]Want the whole gang bang experience. Any one consider joining, I guess I could get locals too but I'd rather have something in common you know.[/QUOTE]Interesting interest. The "gang bang" is reported to be an ancient practice with its origins being as a punishment of women for sexual misbehavior. My gut tells me that those who enjoy the practice need some serious therapy. In fairness, some women are reported to like it. But, I don't know any Paisa that would consent to being gang banged, and I would never introduce any of my friends to someone whose aim with them is a gang bang. You might find some among us who will message you to join you in this interesting sexual pleasure. Just call me "old school." I get no pleasure in degrading women.

Only good energy, amigo.

[QUOTE=Rycos1;1352862]Been to Medellin quite a few times but have been pretty laid back on the mongering thing. Looking to change that this time around (this week beginning Thursday). I speak Spanish natively although not Colombian and looking to bang a few chicas that for the most part already "booked". Except some are sharable if you know what I mean. Want the whole gang bang experience. Any one consider joining, I guess I could get locals too but I'd rather have something in common you know.[/QUOTE]Hmm. The use of the term "gang bang" might have some connotations that rub some folks the wrong way. Group sex might be a better softer term with out the baggage; unless you mean treating the girl like a rental car between three or more dudes. IMO that ain't cool. I like it in my pornos not real life but as long as you treat the girl well / correctly and you don't scar her for life I guess good luck to you.

There was a link to a swingers / gang bang club. I want to say it was in the Bogota reports years ago but it might have been some other city. If you're interested do a search and I'm sure it will pop up after a few pages.

What's with you guys? I know a shocking amount of women who fantasize about, more than one man, at once. Obviously strickly for the submissive type, but I'm surprised with some of you guys', associating the act, with sexual violence. Who doesn't enjoy experiences with multiple women, and who's to say, some women, wouldn't enjoy a similar experience? To suggest that there would have to be something wrong with them is hypocritical! Sounds more like some fellas' might be more worried about sword clashing, and whether that makes you gay, rather than upholding womens rights. Afterall, what better place to take that position than, the international sex guide!

Hi LT.

Just came back from MDE last week.

As Always I had an amazing time. Each trip I go to Medellin I feel like it was best trip ever. The city just keeps getting better and better. Anyways I don't know what kind of Gang bang you are saying that Paisas won't enjoy I and a friend of mine were with three chicks all night and they seemed to love it. Matter of fact they were all into it.

It all depends on the girls. If you know the girls who are sexually upbeat then girls are girls anywhere in the world they all have a dark side and they all want to get fucked good. First night we did this both I and my friends dicks were hurting the next morning due to extreme fucking.

Any one wants info on these girls let me know but you best prepared to spend some good money to have a great time.

Regards,

John.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1352962]Interesting interest. The "gang bang" is reported to be an ancient practice with its origins being as a punishment of women for sexual misbehavior. My gut tells me that those who enjoy the practice need some serious therapy. In fairness, some women are reported to like it. But, I don't know any Paisa that would consent to being gang banged, and I would never introduce any of my friends to someone whose aim with them is a gang bang. You might find some among us who will message you to join you in this interesting sexual pleasure. Just call me "old school." I get no pleasure in degrading women.

Only good energy, amigo.[/QUOTE]

Anyone know of one in Medellin? Thanks

I have few internet contacts I like to meet during afternoons and early evenings. Any suggestions? I like the HardRock cafe for early evenings and the MacDonald's across from it. I am staying in Poblado near Parque Illeras. I have not been to MDE in two years so I remember the general areas but I need help with some other cafe names and approx location so I can arrange some dates close to where I am staying. Thank you very much.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1354172]I have few internet contacts I like to meet during afternoons and early evenings. Any suggestions? I like the HardRock cafe for early evenings and the MacDonald's across from it. I am staying in Poblado near Parque Illeras. I have not been to MDE in two years so I remember the general areas but I need help with some other cafe names and approx location so I can arrange some dates close to where I am staying. Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]There is bar I like, forget the name. If you're looking at Hotel Dan to the left there is a park and to the left of that is the bar / restaurant I like that over looks the park. Juan Valdez is casual and nice. The Mexican joint in La Estrada has pretty good food but it's $$$$. Can't seem to think of any others. I just take them to Crepes and Waffeles and they all love it!

I like the little bars and the Mexican Restaurant on the 2nd floor of La Strada, beside Burger King. More bars and a sushi place on the 3rd floor.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1354172]I have few internet contacts I like to meet during afternoons and early evenings. Any suggestions? I like the HardRock cafe for early evenings and the MacDonald's across from it. I am staying in Poblado near Parque Illeras. I have not been to MDE in two years so I remember the general areas but I need help with some other cafe names and approx location so I can arrange some dates close to where I am staying. Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]

Is it just the one's that come to Cartagena from Medellin that will do 2 or more? I used to not want to know who else was fucking my chica, after many years I am usually ok with their stories, seems to turn me on. Guess ass banging and cof is not respectful, shit! I have spent a shitload of $ trying to reform ho's, found out you can dress them up, send them to school, and I am still a ho! Most of them too.

[QUOTE=John; 1353263]Hi LT.

Just came back from MDE last week.

As Always I had an amazing time. Each trip I go to Medellin I feel like it was best trip ever. The city just keeps getting better and better. Anyways I don't know what kind of Gang bang you are saying that Paisas won't enjoy I and a friend of mine were with three chicks all night and they seemed to love it. Matter of fact they were all into it.

It all depends on the girls. If you know the girls who are sexually upbeat then girls are girls anywhere in the world they all have a dark side and they all want to get fucked good. First night we did this both I and my friends dicks were hurting the next morning due to extreme fucking.

Any one wants info on these girls let me know but you best prepared to spend some good money to have a great time.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]

I understand that Abydos has moved from Avenida 33. Does anyone know if this is true and if so the new location.

[QUOTE=Baywatc3;1354468]I understand that Abydos has moved from Avenida 33. Does anyone know if this is true and if so the new location.[/QUOTE]Wasn't it always on Avenida 33? Or do you mean they moved houses on 33?

Have any of you figured out if you can take a class at the university without being a full time student? Can you purchase access to the gym / pool facilities without being a student? I once gained access to the university by asking to see the museum located on the campus.

Their website offers language classes but they might want to see some form of residency.

I am trying to find a way to gain daily access to the campus.

Thanks

[quote=slamcity7777;1354667]wasn't it always on avenida 33? or do you mean they moved houses on 33?[/quote]thank you chesrep001 and slamcity for the bar suggetsions.

slam, i think he is saying that it may have moved [b]from[/b] avenida 33. if that is true, i would like to know as well.

[QUOTE=Lmarcone;1353267]Anyone know of one in Medellin? Thanks[/QUOTE]I found this information but have never gone. I think they allow entrance as a boy+girl couple. Otherwise it would be a sausage fest of guys wanting 'free pussy' You can arrange to go with a pre-pago to gain entrance but I am not sure of the quality of the chicas that would attend once inside. Please report back if you do go.

[url]http://www.guiacereza.com/comunidad/agenda/evento.php?id=103[/url]

There is Dreams (Colombia) and La Piscina (Estadio)

Some of the newer members may not be aware of an excellent video that's a few years old, but it is a classic. If you haven't seen it, I suggest that you take the time. It's an excellent representation of the beautiful women of Medellin, and was filmed at the Mansion.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfjw28fSVfI[/url]

I will try to go.

[QUOTE=Almotu; 1354884]I found this information but have never gone. I think they allow entrance as a boy+girl couple. Otherwise it would be a sausage fest of guys wanting 'free pussy' You can arrange to go with a pre-pago to gain entrance but I am not sure of the quality of the chicas that would attend once inside. Please report back if you do go.

[url]http://www.guiacereza.com/comunidad/agenda/evento.php?id=103[/url]

There is Dreams (Colombia) and La Piscina (Estadio) [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Baywatc3;1354468]I understand that Abydos has moved from Avenida 33. Does anyone know if this is true and if so the new location.[/QUOTE]Abydos is still on Av. 33. Just went there this evening. Line up good 7-8 chicas but, nothing spectacular.

I took a few friends there and to energy.

In my honest opinion these 2 casas are (tourists casas) with high prices and mediocre service.

Better to hit a small place like New Life,

Just my opinion.

KB151

[QUOTE=Arjay;1354954]Abydos is still on Av. 33. Just went there this evening. Line up good 7-8 chicas but, nothing spectacular.[/QUOTE]

You might enjoy some restaurants on Calle 10. Calle 10, one block from Parque Lleras, is fun and authentic. For breakfast, try Desayunadero La 10.

[url]http://www.desayunaderola10.com/[/url]

And Mondongos for lunch.

[url]http://medellinliving.com/mondongo-soup/[/url]

[url]http://www.circuloempresariosune.com/index.php/circulo/perfil/840-Mondongos-Restaurante.html[/url]

Haven't been to this one but it looks nice:

[url]http://medellinliving.com/ajiacos-y-mondongos-traditional-colombian-food/[/url]

And a fun trip to take a date is to the Pueblito Paisa.

[url]http://www.medellinparati.com/sitio.php?id=19[/url]

The view at night of the lights of Medellin is amazing, even more so at Christmas time.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1354374]There is bar I like, forget the name. If you're looking at Hotel Dan to the left there is a park and to the left of that is the bar / restaurant I like that over looks the park. Juan Valdez is casual and nice. The Mexican joint in La Estrada has pretty good food but it's $$$$. Can't seem to think of any others. I just take them to Crepes and Waffeles and they all love it![/QUOTE]I went to that restaurant overlooking the park by the Dan Carlton. It has a big tree growing through the roof right? Ordered some Colombian Style Tamales we were waiting forever for them to arrive, like 45 minutes? I was starving! And when they finally came, literally ICE COLD. Seriously! Chunks of ice in the middle! NEVER AGAIN. Forget about complaining, they don't give a shit. That new pizza place right next to it is fairly good.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1354374]There is bar I like, forget the name. If you're looking at Hotel Dan to the left there is a park and to the left of that is the bar / restaurant I like that over looks the park. Juan Valdez is casual and nice. The Mexican joint in La Estrada has pretty good food but it's $$$$. Can't seem to think of any others. I just take them to Crepes and Waffeles and they all love it![/QUOTE]Is it Agucate?

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;1355512]Is it Agucate?[/QUOTE]Maybe, I just went there for drinks one night and had a nice time. A few of ya'll seem to not like the place but it's in a nice location.

Of course I am waiting on the guy to chime in, and say they've had enough of restaurants, and wants to know the new address for New Life or whatever, but awaiting that, my opinion is that the Aguacate restaurant is nice. It is the only restaurant I have ever been in with a tree growing up right in the middle of it. They have a bird house-feeder right out in front, or to the side, and you could sit there for hours watching the most incredible birds. The colors are crazy! As far as service, if you speak Spanish, I can't imagine any problem, they are anxious to please. If you expect to meet someone, a date, it's a great spot, because you can drink and watch birds or the park (Parque del Presidente) for as long as you like.

[url]http://www.planb.com.co/medellin/restaurantes-en-medellin/sucursal/aguacate-arbol/45944[/url]

Can anyone give us an update on whats going on there? Hearing rumors again of possible shut down. I know Ricker and Enzygo commented a couple of weeks ago but you know how the rumor mill grinds!

[quote=chesrep001; 1355684]of course i am waiting on the guy to chime in, and say they've had enough of restaurants, and wants to know the new address for new life or whatever, but awaiting that, my opinion is that the aguacate restaurant is nice. it is the only restaurant i have ever been in with a tree growing up right in the middle of it. they have a bird house-feeder right out in front, or to the side, and you could sit there for hours watching the most incredible birds. the colors are crazy! as far as service, if you speak spanish, i can't imagine any problem, they are anxious to please. if you expect to meet someone, a date, it's a great spot, because you can drink and watch birds or the park (parque del presidente) for as long as you like.

[url]http://www.planb.com.co/medellin/restaurantes-en-medellin/sucursal/aguacate-arbol/45944[/url][/quote]chiming in (smile). i sent you a pm thanking you for the info. thank you for the recommendations. i just landed last night. i will check out a few and report back.

[QUOTE=Jack4765;1355722]Can anyone give us an update on whats going on there? Hearing rumors again of possible shut down. I know Ricker and Enzygo commented a couple of weeks ago but you know how the rumor mill grinds![/QUOTE]Take care Amigo. See you soon I hope. It's been a while.

Cheers.

The Aids clinic?

Does that mean what I think it means and how much tip do you give for that kind of cooperation? Jeje.

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1355114]I made sweet luv 2 two of them for a week after taking them to the 45 min. Clinic.[/QUOTE]