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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]очень интересно...
Not sure how a woman will catch or keep a man by becoming a "sterva". American women have long since perfected the art, and it hasn't helped them at all.
Why else would American men be looking for women in Russia? And the Ukraine, and Thailand, and Brazil, and Argentina, and everywhere else in the world.[/QUOTE]I think it works just fine for American girls, it is only the enlightened few that are smart enough to venture beyond the borders...
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I bet the classes actually work.. seriously. We men are simple creatures. :)[/QUOTE]
[url]http://rakovsky.ru/?s=16[/url]
:)
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In Russia the statistic is simple.
In the age 15-45 females outnumber males 100:88.
Which means on 100 females age 15-45 comes 88 males the same age.
So russian women are at war among them in order to get the best man.
This is statistic only but in reality the number is much bigger since russian man have faster duying rate.
It's obvious in real live. If you visit a russian school for example in the class of 30 pupils less then 10 will be boys, usually 5-6.
So next time when you visit some fancy night club in Moscow no need to write in your report "women to men ratio is 3:1" since this is normal in Russia.
On the other hand in USA for example the situation is reversed. More men then women. Maybe this is the reason USA men are looking for women elsewhere.
Especially those who are over 55, bold, fat or whatever.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I think it works just fine for American girls, it is only the enlightened few that are smart enough to venture beyond the borders...[/QUOTE]Hmmm...
Have to disagree with you there, Doc. I think it probably worked for a while, but there's a whole new generation of men here in America now and the strategy seems to be backfiring on them (women that is). But then, that's a whole 'nother subject for a whole 'nother time.
And it's not only the enlightened men who are venturing beyond our borders, the great unwashed are also beginning to catch on. Of course, it is still only the enlightened few that make the journey to eastern Europe. :)
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Hmmm...
Have to disagree with you there, Doc. I think it probably worked for a while, but there's a whole new generation of men here in America now and the strategy seems to be backfiring on them (women that is). But then, that's a whole 'nother subject for a whole 'nother time.
And it's not only the enlightened men who are venturing beyond our borders, the great unwashed are also beginning to catch on. [/QUOTE]For the sake of my brethren, I hope you are right!
But yeah, it's another topic entirely.
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[QUOTE=Kurenda]So next time when you visit some fancy night club in Moscow no need to write in your report "women to men ratio is 3:1" since this is normal in Russia.[/QUOTE]It has been nearly a decade since I've been to a fancy nighhtclub in Moscow with a 3:1 female:male ratio.
Most places are roughly 50:50 and regrettably there are even many places now with more men than women.
The mix at upscale (or even medium-scale) clubs has nothing to do with national demographics.
Where demographics play out positively are in student places, but even there it certainly isn't 3:1.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]It has been nearly a decade since I've been to a fancy nighhtclub in Moscow with a 3:1 female:male ratio.
Most places are roughly 50:50 and regrettably there are even many places now with more men than women.[/QUOTE]
I fully confirm this 50:50 ratio. Starting from 2.00 it becomes worst and worst in most of places.
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[QUOTE=Kurenda]In Russia the statistic is simple.
In the age 15-45 females outnumber males 100: 88.
Which means on 100 females age 15-45 comes 88 males the same age.
So Russian women are at war among them in order to get the best man.
This is statistic only but in reality the number is much bigger since Russian man have faster duying rate.
It's obvious in real live. If you visit a Russian school for example in the class of 30 pupils less then 10 will be boys, usually 5-6.
So next time when you visit some fancy night club in Moscow no need to write in your report "women to men ratio is 3:1" since this is normal in Russia.
On the other hand in USA for example the situation is reversed. More men then women. Maybe this is the reason USA men are looking for women elsewhere.
Especially those who are over 55, bold, fat or whatever.[/QUOTE]You are so wrong, I was in wikipedia and the demographics for 15-45 is that there are more men than women. Even for the younger people there are more males. The only age group for fewer females is that group that are 60 or above. There is no more oversupply of women. That age is long gone.
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[QUOTE=Castonthis] I was in wikipedia. Even for the younger people there are more males. There is no more oversupply of women.[/QUOTE]
What wikipedia doesn't say is that a significant percentage of the younger guys in FSU are rather uncultured, badly dressed, broke and dumb (well, this is maybe not valid for Piter or Moscow, but this is undoubtedly true in most Russian provinces, as in Caucasus, Stans, Moldova, ect, at least when you leave the big cities cosmopolitan bowels).
The demographics for 18-45 is maybe a 50:50 male to female ratio, but IMO the "eligible male" to female ratio in this part of the world is more something like 1:5.
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[QUOTE=Prosal]What wikipedia doesn't say is that a significant percentage of the younger guys in FSU are rather uncultured, badly dressed, broke and dumb (well, this is maybe not valid for Piter or Moscow, but this is undoubtedly true in most Russian provinces, as in Caucasus, Stans, Moldova, ect, at least when you leave the big cities cosmopolitan bowels).
The demographics for 18-45 is maybe a 50:50 male to female ratio, but IMO the "eligible male" to female ratio in this part of the world is more something like 1:5.[/QUOTE]
Key word in that slew being [b]broke[/b]. No money, no honey...
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[QUOTE=Prosal]What wikipedia doesn't say is that a significant percentage of the younger guys in FSU are rather uncultured, badly dressed, broke and dumb (well, this is maybe not valid for Piter or Moscow, but this is undoubtedly true in most Russian provinces, as in Caucasus, Stans, Moldova, ect, at least when you leave the big cities cosmopolitan bowels).
The demographics for 18-45 is maybe a 50:50 male to female ratio, but IMO the "eligible male" to female ratio in this part of the world is more something like 1:5.[/QUOTE]
So many Russian men are just 'gopniks' - sort of like white trash - they drink and smoke in the corridors of their Soviet housing blocks, don't know how to dress and live with their mothers until they are 30. It's a wonder that Russian women don't throw themselves at ANY foreigner. I mean - most women here can't look forward to anything more than living in a cramped 3-room flat with their mothers and children. I think that the girls that most foreigners have the best chance with are ones that have actually been abroad and know what normal Europeans are 'sposedta live like.
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[QUOTE=Blaked]So many Russian men are just 'gopniks' - sort of like white trash -[/QUOTE]
Yeah, gopniki. I like this word!
To be witty with new Russian girls i-contacts, I often qualify myself of "gopnik" whose hobby is to get drunk (well, there's a part of truth in that!), which they usually find really fun coming from a Western guy, and much more entertaining than the boring BS they usually hear, like "...I'm a true gentleman, with good manners and strong values, decent, honest, faithful, serious, blah blah blah..".
:)
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[QUOTE=Prosal]Yeah, gopniki. I like this word!
To be witty with new Russian girls i-contacts, I often qualify myself of "gopnik" whose hobby is to get drunk (well, there's a part of truth in that!), which they usually find really fun coming from a Western guy, and much more entertaining than the boring BS they usually hear, like "...I'm a true gentleman, with good manners and strong values, decent, honest, faithful, serious, blah blah blah..".
:)[/QUOTE]
Yeah - in a kinder world, being a 'true gentleman' would get you somewhere. I think such people are the most likely to end up raising another man's children.
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[QUOTE=Passepartout]For the 18-22, i am 36 and starts to feel the difference. I would even say that I am not that interesting by them.
For the 24-28 office employee with recent bad experience, you are right there are plenty of them, looking for the kind guy we all are. Because we are very kind with them, we know that... :-)
Hey Pizdyets, we need to go to u&d, you are right... i'll be there probably on Friday with friends. If you are free, send an sms...[/QUOTE]
I've never been able to fall in love with anyone from category B. It's that category A that's always been interesting to me, and I'm 33. Girls from category B just seem a bit used up.
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[QUOTE=Blaked]So many Russian men are just 'gopniks' - sort of like white trash - they drink and smoke in the corridors of their Soviet housing blocks, don't know how to dress and live with their mothers until they are 30. It's a wonder that Russian women don't throw themselves at ANY foreigner. I mean - most women here can't look forward to anything more than living in a cramped 3-room flat with their mothers and children. I think that the girls that most foreigners have the best chance with are ones that have actually been abroad and know what normal Europeans are 'sposedta live like.[/QUOTE]And the farther away you get from Moscow and St.Petes the more gopniky the guys get.
It's like corruption and xenophobia in Russia. Despite the best efforts anybody could make, it'll take a couple of generations to weed it out of them. If ever.
I say, long live the gopniks!