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First Trip. Need Help
Amigos. Finally, got an opportunity to visit CDMX for 3 days. I went through this forum to find out Tijuana kind of Clubs (HK, AB, Chicago etc.), but did not find any. Are there any in CDMX? Or is it like street or agencies type only. What are the recommendations. What is the best hotel to stay?? I have whole Friday / Saturday / Sunday. Thank You.
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[QUOTE=Santij;2747732]Amigos. Finally, got an opportunity to visit CDMX for 3 days. I went through this forum to find out Tijuana kind of Clubs (HK, AB, Chicago etc.), but did not find any. Are there any in CDMX? Or is it like street or agencies type only. What are the recommendations. What is the best hotel to stay?? I have whole Friday / Saturday / Sunday. Thank You.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Hotel Kali Escandon in Condessa, and Hotel EuroStars Zona Rosa for 3 nights each last month. I liked them both, both guest friendly hotels. Decor, lobby area, and the rooms at Kali Escandon were better. A bit of a walk north towards Parque Mexico where there's lots of artisanal bakeries, coffee shops, restaurants.
Eurostars is slightly better location wise. Very walkable area, right next to Avenue Paseo de la Reforma, where you can get on the hop on hop off Turibus (which has 4 routes I think and 150 pesos day pass, Saturday or Sunday should be a good day to get on the TuriBus). You'll find good restaurants, bars and coffee shops, on the other side of Paseo de la Reforma from Eurostars as well. One downside about Eurostars hotel- it is adjacent to a loud party street, and the music doesn't stop til late late night.
IMO three days nearly not enough for CDMX, need atleast 4-6 days. To go out to restaurants, do some sight seeing, make sexy time.
Hope you have a good trip and share any good finds!
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Hotel in roma norte-ish
[QUOTE=CaliNoir;2735477]Hey all does anyone have any recommendations on 3 or 4 star hotels in Roma Nt that are guest friendly? I'm looking to stay in a nice area where it'll be easier to walk around and such during a short 3 night stay.[/QUOTE]From RTTF, I've heard Hotel EuroStars Zona Rosa quite a bit and its close enough!
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Good Guides?
Starting to look through this forum for info on MC. A friend and me coming for 1 day of tourism and 2 nights + 1 day of fun. May push it to an extra day or two we will see.
I have found these guides. Is the info in here still up to date? Mostly just looking for hotel info now and will go through these forums and guides for details on sex workers over the next few weeks.
[URL]https://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Mexico_City[/URL]
[URL]https://girlsheavens.com/girls-for-sex-in-mexico-city/[/URL]
[URL]https://girlsheavens.com/best-hotels-for-girls-and-sex-in-mexico-city/[/URL]
[URL]https://girlsheavens.com/the-4-red-light-districts-in-mexico-city/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Hadez;2753542]Starting to look through this forum for info on MC. A friend and me coming for 1 day of tourism and 2 nights + 1 day of fun. May push it to an extra day or two we will see.
I have found these guides. Is the info in here still up to date? Mostly just looking for hotel info now and will go through these forums and guides for details on sex workers over the next few weeks.
[URL]https://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Mexico_City[/URL]
[URL]https://girlsheavens.com/girls-for-sex-in-mexico-city/[/URL]
[URL]https://girlsheavens.com/best-hotels-for-girls-and-sex-in-mexico-city/[/URL]
[URL]https://girlsheavens.com/the-4-red-light-districts-in-mexico-city/[/URL][/QUOTE]I would use these for general pointers / info, not anything thorough. The WikiSexGuide is outdated for a vast majority of locations, not just CDMX. The second links are more current, but tbh I would just read the past 20+ pages of CDMX threads on this site as it is probably the most up to date given mongers have been contributing here since the early 2000's. I would stick to agencies in CDMX rather than SWs but to each their own. The escort thread is pretty thorough.
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[QUOTE=Hadez;2753542]Starting to look through this forum for info on MC. A friend and me coming for 1 day of tourism and 2 nights + 1 day of fun. May push it to an extra day or two we will see.
I have found these guides. Is the info in here still up to date? Mostly just looking for hotel info now and will go through these forums and guides for details on sex workers over the next few weeks.
[URL]https://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Mexico_City[/URL]
[URL]https://girlsheavens.com/girls-for-sex-in-mexico-city/[/URL]
[URL]https://girlsheavens.com/best-hotels-for-girls-and-sex-in-mexico-city/[/URL]
[URL]https://girlsheavens.com/the-4-red-light-districts-in-mexico-city/[/URL][/QUOTE]CDMX is huge, 2 days nearly not enough. IMO 3-4 days atleast- for tourism, sexy time and going out to restaurants and bars. I stayed at Hotel Kali Escandon in Condessa, and Hotel Eurostars in Zona Rosa, for 3 nights each. Both guest friendly, recommend both. Check my post from late August.
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My time is limited by my travel partner but I will be back.
Not sure what I am going to explore in the short time I am here.
Do any of the clubs have sex shows? One of the things I really enjoy about the clubs in Tijuana is the shows.
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[QUOTE=Hadez;2753597]My time is limited by my travel partner but I will be back.
Not sure what I am going to explore in the short time I am here.
Do any of the clubs have sex shows? One of the things I really enjoy about the clubs in Tijuana is the shows.[/QUOTE]Bicycle ride at the Bosque de Chapultapec is highly underrated activity, the park is huge- too big to walk. Bike rentals starting at 60 pesos / hour.
The 8th floor coffee shop across from Palacio de Bellas artes. Finca Don Porfirio, is a nice spot to hang.
I have seen some adult movie stars post clips on twitter- of sex shows with toys, squirting, etc on stage. I also want to check those, have not been.
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La Boutique VIP
Does anyone have experience of using this site? Didn't find much in the search, one of the old messages said it's not an agency but a place to pay a fee and advertise. The menu looks very high end and assuming expensive, any experiences and thoughts on rates?
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La Boutique
[QUOTE=JuliusGeezer;2755182]Does anyone have experience of using this site? Didn't find much in the search, one of the old messages said it's not an agency but a place to pay a fee and advertise. The menu looks very high end and assuming expensive, any experiences and thoughts on rates?[/QUOTE]It is indeed a listing of "high end" escorts. Mostly it is the price that is high end, so if you are conserving resources you may want to look elsewhere. Prices range from $2,500 to $3,500 pesos and include BBBJ and covered FS, as many times as you can get there in the hour.
On the other hand, the ladies are generally super hot and most provide a GFE experience, often memorable. The majority of them are Venezuelans making a better life for themselves in Mexico.
I have invested in the services of several, but my favorites have retired from the business. Hence, I can't make a real recommendation. I would suggest you read the LB forum and make a decisión based on what other clients have said. Also, if there is a link to a Twitter account, be sure to check there. They often have more photos that may not be as retouched.
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La Boutique
[QUOTE=JuliusGeezer;2755182]Does anyone have experience of using this site? Didn't find much in the search, one of the old messages said it's not an agency but a place to pay a fee and advertise. The menu looks very high end and assuming expensive, any experiences and thoughts on rates?[/QUOTE]La Boutique is the successor to Zona Divas. My ZD password was transferred to the LB forum when authorities closed ZD for trafficking. What I understand from news accounts is that agents of ZD recruited girls from whatever South American country was most in distress. Argentina years ago, later Colombia, with the promise they could double or more their rates in Mexico.
Some ZD girls claimed that they didn't realize that they were enlisting to be escorts. Their airfare was put on their account and they were put on tour throughout Mexico. The cost of their professional photos, promotion, housing and travel expenses added to their debt. Their Twitter pages and WhatsApp accounts were created and maintained by the agents who also scheduled for them. Their passports were held by the agents until the debts and agent fees were paid.
I don't know if LB operates the same way but the webpage, pitch and forum are identical. I suspect that most of its forum reviews are written by agent touts. Its girls nowadays are overwhelmingly Venezuelan and on tour.
I have never contacted through ZD or LB. I don't do agencies. I have met a handful of Venezuelans at the Patriotismo who quoted me $2500 to $3500 an hour. I suppose them to be LE girls but I didn't discuss it. All were very attractive and dressed to the nines. I didn't date, I don't do agencies. [URL]https://www.laboutique.vip/[/URL].
Visit the ISG thread where nearly all girls reviewed are independents. If you do see a LB girl please post your review there for the benefit of others. But not me, I won't contribute to that trade and am happy with passionate, independent Mexicanas. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3368-D.-F.-Escorts[/URL].
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Trafficking
[QUOTE=JuanCarter;2755444]La Boutique is the successor to Zona Divas. My ZD password was transferred to the LB forum when authorities closed ZD for trafficking. What I understand from news accounts is that agents of ZD recruited girls from whatever South American country was most in distress. Argentina years ago, later Colombia, with the promise they could double or more their rates in Mexico.
Some ZD girls claimed that they didn't realize that they were enlisting to be escorts. Their airfare was put on their account and they were put on tour throughout Mexico. The cost of their professional photos, promotion, housing and travel expenses added to their debt. Their Twitter pages and WhatsApp accounts were created and maintained by the agents who also scheduled for them. Their passports were held by the agents until the debts and agent fees were paid.
I don't know if LB operates the same way but the webpage, pitch and forum are identical. I suspect that most of its forum reviews are written by agent touts. Its girls nowadays are overwhelmingly Venezuelan and on tour.
I have never contacted through ZD or LB. I don't do agencies. I have met a handful of Venezuelans at the Patriotismo who quoted me $2500 to $3500 an hour. I suppose them to be LE girls but I didn't discuss it. All were very attractive and dressed to the nines. I didn't date, I don't do agencies. [URL]https://www.laboutique.vip/[/URL].
Visit the ISG thread where nearly all girls reviewed are independents. If you do see a LB girl please post your review there for the benefit of others. But not me, I won't contribute to that trade and am happy with passionate, independent Mexicanas. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3368-D.-F.-Escorts[/URL].[/QUOTE]Interesting observations JC, I remember reading about you mentioning some of this before but not in such details and that you read about it in local news. I personally think many girls are trafficked into this business and not just from outside Mexico. I think it's hard for most guys to figure out or that most care. The biggest country for trafficking girls is Thailand but that doesn't stop guys from going just to have cheap sex. I personally have know a couple of Venezuelan girls, one I've gotten to know very well and was suspicious of her being caught up in this but she's always had her passport and pretty much did what she wanted. Now she's technically out of the business but might be trying to make money some other way. The other girl was a girl I found on Twitter who occasionally would be on LB. She really doesn't post on Twitter anymore and I have only seen her on SA. So maybe making money from SA clients is a better business for her.
I have messaged a few girls from LB but just never was able to get together. Some girls come and go pretty fast. Some of the things I have looked for from different girls is what tattoos they have as many seem to have the same tattoo and that tells me they are part of a group. It's a world most of us will never understand and we can't trust everything the girls say. I was very close to a bunch of girls in Tijuana and most that work had boyfriends that were baby daddies and the girls worked in the bars and the guys did some type of illegal activity to earn money. So to find a true independent girl is hard for most guys especially when time is at a minimum.
If you ever get anymore articles about the trafficking I would hope you put it on here as some of us would appreciate it.
With the recent change in how Biden is treating the Venezuelans and that those that might be stuck in Mexico it will be interesting to see if even more turn to selling themselves to make money.
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[QUOTE=JuanCarter;2755444]La Boutique is the successor to Zona Divas. My ZD password was transferred to the LB forum when authorities closed ZD for trafficking. What I understand from news accounts is that agents of ZD recruited girls from whatever South American country was most in distress. Argentina years ago, later Colombia, with the promise they could double or more their rates in Mexico.
Some ZD girls claimed that they didn't realize that they were enlisting to be escorts. Their airfare was put on their account and they were put on tour throughout Mexico. The cost of their professional photos, promotion, housing and travel expenses added to their debt. Their Twitter pages and WhatsApp accounts were created and maintained by the agents who also scheduled for them. Their passports were held by the agents until the debts and agent fees were paid.
I don't know if LB operates the same way but the webpage, pitch and forum are identical. I suspect that most of its forum reviews are written by agent touts. Its girls nowadays are overwhelmingly Venezuelan and on tour.
I have never contacted through ZD or LB. I don't do agencies. I have met a handful of Venezuelans at the Patriotismo who quoted me $2500 to $3500 an hour. I suppose them to be LE girls but I didn't discuss it. All were very attractive and dressed to the nines. I didn't date, I don't do agencies. [URL]https://www.laboutique.vip/[/URL].
Visit the ISG thread where nearly all girls reviewed are independents. If you do see a LB girl please post your review there for the benefit of others. But not me, I won't contribute to that trade and am happy with passionate, independent Mexicanas. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3368-D.-F.-Escorts[/URL].[/QUOTE]Damn thanks so much for the info. Very sad to hear that and I don't want to be supporting any kind of trafficking activity in any way even if there is just suspicion of it happening. Such a real shame because the ones on the site look like complete knockouts.
A bit concerned about the mention of some girls working with LE, is that type of thing expected or common in CDMX? Not sure what Patriotismo is but will search the threads.
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LB La Boutique
[QUOTE=JuliusGeezer;2756060]Damn thanks so much for the info. Very sad to hear that and I don't want to be supporting any kind of trafficking activity in any way even if there is just suspicion of it happening. Such a real shame because the ones on the site look like complete knockouts.
A bit concerned about the mention of some girls working with LE, is that type of thing expected or common in CDMX? Not sure what Patriotismo is but will search the threads.[/QUOTE]Typo. LB, La Boutique.
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[QUOTE=JuliusGeezer;2756060]Damn thanks so much for the info. Very sad to hear that and I don't want to be supporting any kind of trafficking activity in any way even if there is just suspicion of it happening. Such a real shame because the ones on the site look like complete knockouts.
A bit concerned about the mention of some girls working with LE, is that type of thing expected or common in CDMX? Not sure what Patriotismo is but will search the threads.[/QUOTE]Use SA you will not have any issues with this. Just stick with the girls from CDMX. The trafficking probably goes on more then we think, especially with the escorts.