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[QUOTE=PunterWanderer; 1370305]I totally agree with AColonizer when he talks about P4P scene.

IMHO both Italy and France, with different reasons, are the worst countries in Europe for P4P (of course, except Scandinavia, you know why). I don't think in the world because there are also Saudi Arabia, Burma, Bangladesh and Iran.

Just think at all the brothels, FKK, stripclubs and so on at the borders of Italy in Switzerland, Austria and Slovenia! There are built for all the desperate Italians because of the desolation of P4P scene in Italy (and in some case also to extort them money).

The P4P 'panorama' in Italy is indeed generally expensive, full of so called FAKE (the false ads on websites) , persecutions for SW monger by the laws. I don't talk about the 90% of the Chinese massage parlours. So is the situation in Italy.

Not to go off topic, I won't talk about the P4P in France, because I will write on his own section of this forum, but the situation is more or less the same. Here, the new government decided a more aggressive politics against prostitution.

But, luckily for me, in France women have another mentality and another approach with sex than in Italy, where hundred years of Church, hypocrisy, a 'family values'-oriented society (of course only empty words) and so on, created the tipical 'Italian attitude' as regard as the sex.[/QUOTE]Based upon these recent comments. Would an italian offering p4p outside of italy give a 'decent' price as found locally? Just wondering as I saw an ad by an italian woman and I'm thinking of calling to see!

[QUOTE=Sxyman;1450369]Based upon these recent comments. Would an italian offering p4p outside of italy give a 'decent' price as found locally? Just wondering as I saw an ad by an italian woman and I'm thinking of calling to see![/QUOTE]She's probably not Italian, just knows the language. Authentic Italian sex workers are rare.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1450390]She's probably not Italian, just knows the language. Authentic Italian sex workers are rare.[/QUOTE]Sounds like it. I'm a bit wary, I'll probably ask on the malta board and not go for now.

[QUOTE=AColonizer; 1361505]I am a honest man and an experienced monger. I am really annoyed of P4P scene in Italy, from any point of view.

I know P4P in Italy and I am keeping updated about that, although it is not easy because sex is still a religious taboo and a cultural tare. Everything about sex is something between legal and illegal. About prostitutes, I avoid newspaper advertisements, Internet advertisements and escort advertisements, because they are usually the reason of great dissatisfactions, great wastes, great troubles. Only weak men can pay high prices for easy sex, just for the fetishism of a beautiful girl, and, you know, each time a man has got full balls, then he always sees a beautiful girl, even if she is ugly. The best opportunities are on roads and word-of-mouth, and it needs time and experience but it is worth the work. Otherwise if a man doesn't find a woman to fuck at a reasonable price, then it is better he doesn't waste his money and doesn't fuck. Women teach money is much more important than men, and why shouldn't it be vice-versa too?[/QUOTE]As a lifelong traveler, Italy is one of my favorite places, but whether it's dining out, excursions, etc, you stand to get ripped off if you are not careful.

That same obstacle applies when it comes to procuring women here. Prepare to get ripped off if you use the same methods you may have used elsewhere. Agencies, web directories elsewhere that provide a reliable buffet of choices, are, imo, here in Italy just fronts to rip you off.

Word of mouth about a women or a small network of women is the only way to operate here.

Otherwise, take in the sights, enjoy the food (again. Careful to not get ripped off) and save the female delights for other places.

[QUOTE=Sxyman;1450369]Based upon these recent comments. Would an italian offering p4p outside of italy give a 'decent' price as found locally? Just wondering as I saw an ad by an italian woman and I'm thinking of calling to see![/QUOTE]As far as I can remember, once I met an italian travelling girl in the FKK Sakura in Stuttgart. I'm talking more or less about one year ago.

I remember also a couple of ads here in Paris and in London of two escorts who pretended to be italian. I don't know if fake or not, because I didn't deepen the knowledge.

On balance, it's still better looking for something in Italy, if you search for an italian P4P.

Any info on what the dating scene is like in north Italy (Genoa area).

Once you have a gf do they like to fuck a lot? Or are they cold as ice.

I know some cultures push more in the media you have to fuck your man a lot, keep him happy, dress sexy etc ( certain countries in latin america )... some don't. Wondering where Italy is on this scale.

[QUOTE=Jon32; 1463159]Any info on what the dating scene is like in north Italy (Genoa area).

Once you have a gf do they like to fuck a lot? Or are they cold as ice.

I know some cultures push more in the media you have to fuck your man a lot, keep him happy, dress sexy etc (certain countries in latin america ). Some don't. Wondering where Italy is on this scale.[/QUOTE]Italian girl fuck like any other until they get married and have kids. No expectation to fuck their man, only raise kids and be center of family.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1463248]Italian girl fuck like any other until they get married and have kids. No expectation to fuck their man, only raise kids and be center of family.[/QUOTE]Disappointing!

What is the local escort forum for italy (I. E. Internationalsexguide but in italian) ?

I'll answer my question:

http://escortforum.pw

Best one I've found so far, if anyone has any others please share.

[QUOTE=Jon32;1467984]What is the local escort forum for italy (I. E. Internationalsexguide but in italian) ?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jon32; 1467989]I'll answer my question:

[url]http://escortforum.pw[/url]

Best one I've found so far, if anyone has any others please share.[/QUOTE]If you're searching for local forums focused on escort / loft girls / massage parlours / SW reviews in Italy check out Punterf**umItalia (I hope it's allowed to post the name of another forum, even because by no means this one is a "competitor" of InternationalSexGuide, being centered on reviews regarding Italy). I used to write there when I was in Italy. There is a section with the ads of the escorts and a section with forum, which is not visible unless you're signed as a member. IMHO much better than EF, which is a website interesting only for escort ads.

[QUOTE=Jon32; 1467989]I'll answer my question:

[url]http://escortforum.pw[/url]

Best one I've found so far, if anyone has any others please share.[/QUOTE]There seems to be a lot of good options on this website.

If so, why are so many people saying that Italy is a punting wasteland? Is it because they are too expensive? Give bad service? Are all the photos fakes? Do they rip you off?

I take the crue from your question to say that Italy is not a puntering wasteland in an absolute sense. Of course is wrong to generalize the situation, which may change from city to city and from period to period. The point is that you need to know the places, the p4p, the locations: is quite important to loyalize and come back many times. So, is more a wasteland if you come from abroad looking for good p4p, especially if compared with some real Luna park for adults like Germany: you'the better to go and visit Italy than searching for p4p there. Proof of this are the tons of z-series and rip-off brothels and locals amassed on the border of Italy, in Slovenia, Austria, Switzerland. All these made specifically for Italian punters, desperate for the p4p scene in Italy.

For the SW scene, I can remember just some years ago a good situation for example in Terraglio Road near Venice, near Central Station or near Corso Buenos Aires in Milan. Well, I come back to Italy some time ago, and I noticed the Central Station area in Milan totally cleaned up from SW. That's probably due to the restrictive policies implemented by Berlusconi's (!) government some time ago, which provided penalties, reports to police and in some cases seizure of the vehicle. Moreover, the same local administrations provided more draconian laws against the punters. Of course, all these laws haven't solved the problem, but are useful to political propaganda and created an hypocritical climate of censorship.

For AMP, I've already written a report about them.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1468-Venice&p=1383392&viewfull=1#post1383392[/url]

They are authentically a rip-off: taking no notice of the beauty (or not) of the masseuse, they try to make you spend more and more moneys for a massage plus an HJ (even if somewhere is provided BBJ or also FS of course. But, as I said, you must know the places). They constantly ask for making you bath / shower, extra-gifts for touch them, 'romantic massage', etc. And so you can easily spend also 90 or more euro for a massage.

For loft girls, the situation change by the cities, but generally the panorama is dominated also here from Romanian girls, which often – without being racist at all – have a bad attitude with punters, the ads on websites are often fakes (the Chinese ads are in 90% fakes, except for some websites with a good policy, which I've already reported here on ISG), the services are overpriced. You have to pay before f**king, and this can change the "mood" of the intercourse, in the websites are often not specified the services (e. G. : BBJ, FK, anal, CIF, etc.) so there is a great subjectivity from girl to girl, and you can also spend, if unlucky. 100-150 for a BJ cover, and f**k in 2-3 positions. Since they receive usually in studios or something like that, could happen sometimes to meet also the pimp, and that isn't nice, I guess.

So, maybe I've generalized, but IMHO Italy is not an european country for mongering, as can be Germany, Netherlands, the same Spain, etc. Of course, you can have great satisfaction with some p4p there, and when I've been living there I used to have a dozen of good contacts with whom also now I'm in touch, and I go and see when I come back with great delight for me and them (they for the money, I guess). But, as I said and I repeat, you should know the places and the girls, and that's not easy, especially if you don't know how they work and the local forums where find infos (which are of course in Italian).

As for EscortForum, the ads-side of the website is quite good, but the girls are expensive (I'm talking about on average 250 or 300 euro per hour, an outlay that I personally couldn't afford every week) and not always the photos are reliable and verified. So pay attention to this.

Four days in Rome in October 2013. The price of the one day transport ticket is up to 6 euros now. It is still a good deal. I was pleasantly surprised to see that it also includes the train to Ostia di Lido. After the horrendous crowds in Rome, Ostia was a pleasure. Its more relaxed, less crowded and cheaper. Unfortunately no attractions for the p4p customer. I tried the Geisha massage studio but found a notice on the door from the carbiniari which closed that establishment in August 2013.