Seoul

Yellow House

Last night I was looking for one of the RLDs in the forum around Gireum station. As I was wandering, I saw one or two women hanging around doorways on an uphill street near a station entrance. There are about 10 little establishments open on this road, and if no one is standing outside, you can tell them by beaded doorways and cheesy clip-art signs lit outside.

Inside there's a little rabbit warren of partitioned tables and low pleather benches. There are also 1-4 bored looking women inside. This was about 10 pm. I'm as white as you can get, and one woman asked me "beer-no sex?" before letting me inside. I wanted to see what went on, and take my chances, and beer sounded good to me. In I went. I sat down, and two Korean girls were inside. One was slim with a just OK face, no tits, and about 30. The second was 25, chubby, with a nice face and a good rack on display. I gave my attention to the second.

You sit down and order beer. 3 beers cost 30,000 won (about 16 usd). The girls sit down and help you drink your beer and smoke your cigarettes.

I eventually ditched the skinny one and started kissing the young chub. She poured my beers and fed them to me. I was feeling her up; tits, ass and pussy, and I was getting horny. So I stood up and pulled my dong out. She started sucking me, but seemed nervous that the mama would come in. Now, I believe this was a ruse. Her main function there is to sell beer at a ridiculous rate and to keep the customer company.

I kept insisting that she give me head and that she kept those big jugs out so I could feel them while she sucked me. This eventually ended after several interruptions with the summary BBBJ tits out CIM. I don't think she expected the CIM. Surprise!

No condoms were offered. She put up a feeble "period" excuse when I whipped out a magnum (asian condoms are tight). But I had my fingers in her and didn't notice anything.

So this is another type of service available in Seoul. Just know that the girls are there to sell you beer, but they will accomodate you.

Anyone seen this kind of thing elsewhere?

Lets face it, no-one and I mean no-one enjoys rejection. Especially when the person rejecting you is a hooker. I think Kapalika's frustration is brought on by his belief that somehow being white makes him a natural object of wonder. A lot of us come over here with the same stupid assumption. I guess we all have to come to understand it. Sure, there are some girls who are just looking for white males, but generally Korea is quite insular and protected from the rest of the world. Most Korean girls seem to regard foreigners as strange creatures and for the most part their interest is just curiosity. Of course, when a girl gets to know you and see the differences between Koreans and Westerners she may be refreshed by the apparent lack of patriarchy. But you ain't going to impress anyone by yelling obscenities in the land of pink windows.

Us whities haven't got a clue what our black brothers have had to put up with for decades. But hey, maybe that's our first taste.

Love Taipei,

I'm guessing your "Yellow House" is in reference to my question about where to go in Incheon. Could you please be more specific, like how to get there, and what exactly is "yellow house"?

thanks!

I can understand why Kap would get so pissed at being snubbed at certain places in Korea but then again I doubt if many (including myself) have stood up for Asians who are generally forbidden from clubs in Europe (e.g. FKK), Koreans generally snubbed from GI clubs full of Filipinas in Korea (possibly due to fear of the law though, like the shutdown Club69 north of Seoul - ironic since that's the same name used by Kap's club), Koreans forbidden from clubs in special zones in Busan, etc.

I've had girls tell me they won't service certain people because Chinese and Indians are dirty, American GIs are cheap, Japanese are perverted, Europeans stink, Blacks/Whites have soft dicks and can't cum. My point is that try not to get offended when these things happen and either try to win them over by showing the stereotype isn't true or go elsewhere where you are welcomed. These clubs are open only to make money, not to be upstanding citizens, and the owners may think foreigners can't speak the language and cause a misunderstanding (i.e. trouble with the law) to develop.

CB

Man, I have learnt never EVER go out mongering when you are rip roaringly drunk.

I had a huge one last night in Itaewon. I chatted up a few chicks and then decided to try a new venue on the hill.

Fantasy was closed. Pity. So I went by a place called Indian Joes. They charged me 55k for a blowjob. I put it on the credit card. Yeah yeah stupid I know.

Anyway the girl gave a commendable effort from what I remember. But it didnt have the desired affect. Im actually starting to think that I fell asleep or something. Next thing I know she is like getting dressed and saying she will give me 20k back. Which she only gave me 10k. I then proceeded to leave my phone behind there and banged on the door afterwards trying to get it back.

It was a so so experience. She was cute thin, But would not let me touch her breasts at all. I could finger her but not the breasts. It was WIERD.

Anyway so I am walking around with a hard on so I decide to check out that barber shop place just down the road from Seoul Pub. Cost me 65k. Once again on the credit card (Man I hope it doesnt say the name of the place on the statement)

It was my first barber shop experience and it was quite relaxing with the hot towels and foot rubs and stuff.

But this is the bit that freaks me out. Im pretty sure she put a condom on me. I was really drunk and can only remember snippets. Like I felt it. But the sex didnt last long and she ended up beating me off. But anyway I am thinking she did a convential handjob that felt like sex. Maybe even the same for the blowjob.

But I am also kinda semi freaking out that she didnt put a condom on me at all and fucked me. I know this is very unlikely but I have a hyperactive imagination and I just got a HIV test and I dont want another one for a long time.

So could anyone confirm that she always puts condoms on before she fucks or maybe she fakes sex?

Thanks

Gentlemen,

I will be in Seoul next month. After reading the last few pages of posts, I am disenchanted. My last visit was a couple of years ago. I did visit Itaewon and, frankly, there was nothing that I saw that I was even remotely interested in. I went to 3 different RLDs, but I cannot remember the names. At one, 100% no foreigners welcome, another, 80%, and the third, although I was told only 60%, it still felt like over 80% to me. And, the girls that would entertain me were on the lower end of the scale. It was a real drag seeing all those beautiful girls in the windows and being refused time after time.

I am a 50 yo American and do not speak a word of Korean. Is there anywhere I can go where I can get better than average looking P4P at reasonable prices? Or, should I just take a pass?

Thanks.

OAH

TheFor variety's sake, I went down to Sinyongsan station tonight, instead of being a repeat offender down at Miari. In my last post, I wrote about liking demurity in a woman, but Yongsan is a lot closer to my hotel, and it's right on the way to Miari.

The streets were deserted in this RLD, and yet still only a couple of women on the main drag would give me the time of day. There are some heartbreakingly unavailable looker hookers on this street. You can't even believe they're for sale, and yet some of them ignore you while calling out to guys on mopeds passing through. I blew a chance at one of these stunners on the main street on the corner by wanting to shop around. She had smiled and said "sexooo" the first time around, but when I came back she wouldn't talk to me. I suppose I would have been pissed off, too.

The place to go in this district is directly across the street from the Sinyongsan station, half a block South of the big pedestrian bridges. It qualifies as a "B row," but there's lots and lots of good stuff there. If you go the same way I did, you get to B just before you get to A. Keep walking and you'll get to another version of B. B places are alleys and side streets off the navigable roadway of the main street.

At the place I went to, there were two women in the glasshouse. I couldn't choose so I asked them to choose. This went on for a while. They were both so attractive and both very nice. One was taller and typically Korean, but with big breasts. The other may have been a racial mixture, but says she's Korean. Smaller boobs, slimmer bod, less confident.

Of course the more confident one said "OK OK I'll go" or who knows what to go with me to the back room. The other looked a bit disappointed and sat down resignedly. I took this opportunity to choose the one who sat down. She was absolutely stunning and thin and 23 years old. She washed me, gave BBBJ with as much effort as I've ever seen, and took me in four different positions. Progression: cowgirl, mish, side, doggie! The hump room has a bed lined by mirrored walls so you see everything. It was actually 4 1/2 positions because I had to see the backside of the cowgirl in the mirror so we did a 45 degree shift. Her pussy was hairy and this pussy hair was the long kind that looks like it has been hoooked to a generator--all frizzed out crazy. Sweet face, and I'll always remember that view of her conical tits hanging down, bouncing shaking PSE while I finished in that doggie! Boom! 70,000 and a phone number.

MM

The Red Light District Problem:

The real problem is not because you are white, black or orange. Or that you have, on average, a bigger than Korean dick.

The real problem is that most red light districts have a simple, inflexible system. A simpleton system. As with many things Korean, things are kept simple and you get to choose "A" or "A". Progressive places have "A" and "B".

Everything Korea is based on what is easy to administer - and offering only one choice is the easiest.

Compare a menu from Amsterdam or Germany - choices abound.

Foreigners not only don't know "A" but are not even aware that "C" is not available.

I took a friend to 588. He paid and went with a girl. After entering, he communicated to her that he just wanted a blow. But she kept trying to have intercourse. She came out complaining. The Mamasan sent her back in. Back out in 5. OK, I tried to intervene. Turns out she has never given a full blow job - just enough to get it hard. (Hey, she is just a sex factory worker and has one simple job to do - wash it a bit, suck it a bit, put on condom, wince while he pounds away.) 30 minutes of shit passed before my friend came out. The Mamasan, who started with a great attitude towards foreigners, was bitching about foreigners. My friend is a good guy but doesn't know about the system.

This same incident has happened hundreds of times a year for the last 50 years! Hence the resistance to taking foreigners.

Now if there was a sign at the entrance of every red light district describing the "system", there wouldn't be so many problems.

But the reality is that there are many unknowledgeable, green foreigners with less than perfect attitudes heading to the reds.

My experience in Japan was similar - except that I learned to present myself differently. I was able to get into many whacky Japanese places because I knew (through research) the rules, presented myself accordingly, and was persistent. And I only speak 30 Japanese words.

Attitude goes a long way.

I have found the outcall services are much more receptive (the billion business cards on cars with pictures of Japanese porn). Some even speak basic English. But with everything Korean, you have to know the system.

Call. Ask for one girl.

Give address. Hotel is preferable but they will service residences.

Girl comes. Pay fee (fee may vary - 150,000 but may be 180,000 for foreigners (big dick surcharge - really. I enquired)).

(I never paid the big dick surcharge as I tell the girls that I have a small dick - in Korean of course. I have gotten some flack later once they got the full impact).

She will call to confirm to the driver that everything is OK.

Get to know each other - have a drink if available.

Shower together - sometimes separately.

Massage - most likely poor.

Oral (Sometimes without - usually with)

Strait condom sex. If you can hold it you can fuck for about an hour.

If she likes you she will cuttle a bit and won't "run".

Overall a decent lay.

But buyer beware! Not all services are the same - and girls very widely even amongst the same service. If they send a "c" grade girl, send her back and call a different service.

Once we called a service. We needed 4 girls but they only had 2 available. So we called another service for 2 more girls. The quality between the services was stark. The first place sent to great looking "city" girls who knew what they were doing and had a decent attitude. The second service sent two "country" girls who just didn't have a clue.

The city girls gave great blows, decent sex, and were fun. The country girls were just not good at sex. Not a clue about how to handle a dick. Both were 150,000 per girl.

On the other hand there are many non-professional girls horny and waiting. If you are under 50 and under 220 lbs you can get laid often. Online. Phone clubs. Cabaret clubs. Street. Work. There are so many horny (but subdued) girls in this country - just ask.

My best experience:

I was about to move so I figured it wouldn't matter of I invited one to my residence. I called a service and asked for a girl with a good attitude (I can speak OK Korean). It was early - about 5 pm. I said she could show up anytime before 10. I made some story about my wife being overseas and I was lonely ( I am not even married) - and said my preference for a young girl with a good attitude. A young girl was at the door by 5:30.

They sent this super cute and sexy young girl. She was totally GFE. I made her some food and gave her some wine.

Although her technique was amateurish, she had a great attitude. She blew me to hell and licked my ass like it was an ice cream cone. Her pussy was juicy and willing. I blew my load my load quickly. After a bit of conversation, food, and wine, she sucked it hard and blew me until I came (she quickly spit it out as if it was her first time top taste it). She left at 8:30 - the driver had been calling for an hour but she ignored her phone. I tipped her $20, a bottle of wine, and some chocolate.

Since, she has called me 3 times. Once when she called I was drunk and asked her if she could come over again (rare for me as I prefer to screw working girls only once). She said she was on the rag but could send her friend. The cell phone reception wasn't good. I tried to tell her I wasn't interested in her colleague - but she misunderstood and sent her colleague over.

Her body was awesome. And as she knew what to expect, she had a great attitude. Awesome ass lick. I felt I wanted to marry her - really. If you met her not as a ***** you would definitely would take her seriously.

Speaking of marriage, one business card call girl I know is getting married to some Canadian. Even as I am fucking her she is engaged to a Canadian guy. She has a regular job as a secretary but moonlights as a *****. She said it is an exciting job. I go direct and pay her just 90,000.

These stories are the cream of the crop - 60% are just average fucks or less!

Pattayadan,
I see where your coming from. But all working girls are different. Some are foriegner friendly, some aren't. Byung is right, the truth is most Korean girls, working girl or just a native girl tend not to want relations or sex with a forienger of any kind. I talked to a lot who don't even like other asian guys. By Luck if some girl needs the money that day or is semi OK with a foriegner who looks nice, she still can't accept him because everybody will see her take you in. That's a major no no at the RLD. I haven't heard about the stereotype too much, but i'm Korean and I got a big fat dick. The girls always say something about it but I never pay extra. Hey don't just say Korean, say most or some are small, cause Sam Katz give it to them just like you mr big shaq dick. And by reading posts from ignorant foriegners like Kapalika, yes it's great being Korean, banging all the hot girls who give you more time and service. And banging natives and there best friends. Your the Tough guy? 5 foot wimp? So what if he was 5 foot? What? your going to fight your way in you desperate man.Howled out at him because he wouldn't let you in? haha it's sad. What did you do that night? bang a 50 year old ajuma claiming shes 21 at the Yongsan C row? end up at Ipaywon? or go Jerk off to some Korean music videos?

You wish you were Sam Katz in or out of Korea.


Sam Katz aka SKPIMP

This thread is in danger of become childish (again). I thought we had all grown up enough to get beyond this K-bashing/Waygook insulting nonsense.

Paddy23 and PattayaDan have given us quality information. Let's focus on the positives and enjoy more pussy.

Please!

Byung,

You are the reason why many foriegners think Korean men have a chip on their shoulder. I know many Korean girls (and the number is rising) who can't stand the thought of being chained to the sink by a Korean salary man. I talk to them all the time. All Kaparlika was saying is that those of us who live here are often sick of the racist treatment we receive by ignorant Koreans, often those sad little men who can't bear the fact that many of their women like western cock. If I am right you are a Kyopo, someone who has benefitted from the west's (albeit recent) liberal policies of multi-culturalism. If I were to exclude a Korean from my business back home on the grounds of his race, I would be keel hauled. You then have the chutzpah to back up your "Tae Han Min Guk" flag waving co-ethnics when they discriminate here. Mein gott! As for foreigners acting like asses, you should come out here to Ilsan, where I live opposite 3 bars and am treated to fights and drunks pissing under my window every night; the great and the good of Korean manhood acting in the most mature of fashions after a measly bottle of rotgut soju. What exactly is it rooted so deeply in the psyche of Korean youngsters at the moment that makes you so resentful of us? After all, if it were not for the likes of men such as my next door neighbor in my home town, you would have be eating bark and marching behind a T52 tank on Mayday to Stalinist tunes with your Northern breatheren. Give us a break, give up on the foreigner bashing and grow up.

There are plenty of places which will take our money happily, and if like me you can't generally stand the primping and posing and acting-like-a-five-year-old-child of most Korean females, you can just fly south for the winter as I do, and taste the finest pussy in the world in places like Philippines, Thailand and Indonesia. They run rings around anything this god-forsaken rock has to offer.

Just my Chon Won's worth

Jaga

Totally agree with Ho Man,

There are always arguments to both sides of any position, but at the end of the day some things are universal in the monger world no matter where you go:

1) Be respectful (of the girls, of the local customs, etc.)
2) When in Rome... do as the Romans do (i.e. no use in gripping about certain things that are out of your control, there are always options and let's face it, having been around the world, Asia just rocks hands down for mongerers like us - we have it far better than our fellow brothers in other parts of the world)
3) Let's try to keep things on the forum fun and informative, what's the use in wasting time in a flame war? It's totally a waste of everyone's time

I agree with Agoodfella

So let's focus on how to Fxck Korean Girl.
Nowadays you see less girls in RLDs due to summer vacations. I asked a girl & she say about end August most of the girls will be back. and it's also time for many new girls to join this industry.

So we foreigners should prepare to enjoy more Korean pusxy later this month.

Good Luck

gentlemen!

i am volunteering my time and resources to mentor kapalika should he choose to accept. in response, i am requesting that we kill this subject and move on. this cake is overbaked. the point has been made way way over, (target hit, cease fire). kapalika, most likely is young and lacking experience (no insult intended). i don't see how others insulting him accomplishes anything other than retaliatory insults from him and others who sympathizes with him. some people are taking this too personally. we should exhibit the same type decorum here that we are suggesting to kapalika that he exhibits when patronizing the ladies of the evening.

one of the reasons i read this forum is for the therapeutic response i receive from it. if i want to engage myself in the type of venomous attacks manifested here in the last couple of days, i will read the ny post, watch bill oriely -:) or the republicans and the democrats go at each other.

kapalika, the next time you're in seoul pm me and i will take you to the rld where you won't be refused. i have some pointers, i'd like to pass along to you. please accept this friendly gesture in the sincere manner in which it is intended.

as that great poet rodney king said after getting the crap beaten out of him "can we all just get along"?

peace to all

running man