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[QUOTE=Riina;2792451]The gangster clown is a perfect tool of the en aye zeez. His calculation is that Ruski are unlikely to kill him as he's not a true strongman and only a coked up puppet with an all cash exit strategy.[/QUOTE]Xman you have a strange definition of winning. Ukraine is being wiped out. You are losing a generation of men, maybe more. Those that are able to flee are leaving and will never return. At the end the world will turn on Pres. Z. he has. Ruined Ukraine, this is not a win.
The snorting Truffaldino has been promised his life will be spared for now, as he does everything so our land will be united again.
Biden hears from Zed when he learned from media he were in Kiev:
- As you have ordered, till the last Ukrainian!
- And how about you're still alive?
- What kind of Ukrainian am I?
Up until recently, shills working in Western markets have avoided dumb anti-Semitic jokes (and from Russia, no less). Well, not anymore. It's all hands on board now.
[QUOTE=Questner;2792497]The snorting Truffaldino has been promised his life will be spared for now, as he does everything so our land will be united again.
Biden hears from Zed when he learned from media he were in Kiev:
- As you have ordered, till the last Ukrainian!
- And how about you're still alive?
- What kind of Ukrainian am I?[/QUOTE]I'm sure you thought your post was intelligible when you wrote it. Unfortunately, what actually came out of your keyboard was some rather incoherent gibberish.
And, to reiterate a point I've been consistently making, it's moronic for anyone to try to hyper-personalize this war. Those who can't muster anything better than lame insults aimed at Zelensky (or Putin) are simply demonstrating how empty their argumentation tank truly is.
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2792476]Xman you have a strange definition of winning. Ukraine is being wiped out. You are losing a generation of men, maybe more. Those that are able to flee are leaving and will never return. At the end the world will turn on Pres. Z. he has. Ruined Ukraine, this is not a win.[/QUOTE]Ukraine is winning hard, the country that really has lost a generation of men is Russia. 150 000 - 200 000 dead in the war, double that have fled to countries that still accept Rachists, but I guess it will be fine since they have been stealing Ukrainian babies and children to make up for the shortfall. The world has turned on Russia and the Rashists. You're right it's not a win, it will be total victory and humiliation for the Rashists.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2792512]Up until recently[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jmsuttr;2792516]I'm sure you thought [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VinDici;2792743]Ukraine is winning[/QUOTE]Let me guess. You guys are not boomers or older gen X? Correct? I'm so sorry that you did not experience the last era of civilization and that your minds are all fucked.
[QUOTE=Riina;2792747]Let me guess. You guys are not boomers or older gen X? Correct? I'm so sorry that you did not experience the last era of civilization and that your minds are all fucked.[/QUOTE]Our minds are just fine, your country is completely fucked though. Hope you started learning Chinese, you'll need it.
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2792476]Xman you have a strange definition of winning. Ukraine is being wiped out. You are losing a generation of men, maybe more. Those that are able to flee are leaving and will never return. At the end the world will turn on Pres. Z. he has. Ruined Ukraine, this is not a win.[/QUOTE]Your continued sermons on the horrors of war are juvenile. Yes, we get it, war is hell. Is there anything else you can tell us, Major Obvious? Because Ukrainians turning on President Zelensky is not happening. Shame on you for using this pathetic cliché from a Russian propaganda manual.
Of course, aggressors are capable of inflicting horrific suffering on the nations they invade. What's your point?
It's a good thing you can't jump in a time machine and visit Great Britain in 1940 or the Soviet Union in 1941-1943. You would've see bombed out cities, millions of dead and crippled, destroyed livelihoods. And how did that war end, I wonder?
Ukrainians are fighting not because they want to, but because they have to.
Russians are fighting not because they have to, but because they want to.
One got to be really, really thick not to understand the difference?
From The National Bank: the recent emission of a so called '2-or 3 - or maximum 5 Hryvnia' banknote.
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2792476]Xman you have a strange definition of winning. Ukraine is being wiped out. You are losing a generation of men, maybe more. Those that are able to flee are leaving and will never return. At the end the world will turn on Pres. Z. he has. Ruined Ukraine, this is not a win.[/QUOTE]The people who have fled Ukraine have done so primarily because it's a war zone. When the fighting is over, many will return. What percentage is anyone's guess but I doubt your crystal ball is better than anyone else's.
Another thing that's going to be flowing into post-war Ukraine is a shitload of Western money as a reconstruction effort takes place, in the same style as the Marshall Plan. With money sloshing around Ukraine, that's even more incentive for refugees to return. And Ukraine is firmly on the path to EU membership, and probably also NATO, which holds out the promise of economic growth.
It's those who left Russia who are less likely to return. Why? Because Russia isn't a war zone and those who left did so either because they don't support the war or because they didn't want to get drafted. Either one of those choices basically has the effect of burning the bridges that would make an easy return possible. The brain drain + the hundreds of thousands of killed and wounded will cause generational issues similar to post-WW2 Russia.
BTW, I doubt you can cite a single credible source that puts Ukrainian casualty losses even close to the level of Russian losses. One obvious reason why is because it's always been the case that it's harder to take territory than it is to defend. Take Bakhmut, for example, where Russia has thrown convicts and PMC Wagner forces for months, using "human wave" tactics, in their effort to seize that city. Their leader, Prighozin, even did a video with scores of his own dead soldiers stscked behind him, as he complained about not having enough ammunition.
One additional point is that you talk about Ukraine and Zelensky as though they have any other realistic choice. They don't because if they stop resisting Russian aggression then all of Ukraine will end up like Bucha and Irpin. They see this as a battle for existence and survival. Whether you agree or not is completely immaterial. That's how they see it and they're acting accordingly.
P.S. The world has categorically turned against Putin. The UN vote demanding Russia's withdrawal was 141 in favor of that demand, 7 against (IIRC), and 32 abstentions. Even so-called allies like China chose to abstain rather than support Putin. Therefore I would argue that it's Russia that's been ruined. Putin has turned it into a larger version of North Korea, a true pariah state.
[QUOTE=Riina;2792747]me[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] so sorry that[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm all fucked.[/QUOTE]You may have started a trend. After all, why bother with silly things like facts and logic when you can simply stoop to blatant misrepresentation? Isn't that special?
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2792783]Your continued sermons on the horrors of war are juvenile. Yes, we get it, war is hell. Is there anything else you can tell us, Major Obvious? Because Ukrainians turning on President Zelensky is not happening. Shame on you for using this pathetic clich from a Russian propaganda manual.
Of course, aggressors are capable of inflicting horrific suffering on the nations they invade. What's your point?
It's a good thing you can't jump in a time machine and visit Great Britain in 1940 or the Soviet Union in 1941-1943. You would've see bombed out cities, millions of dead and crippled, destroyed livelihoods. And how did that war end, I wonder?
Ukrainians are fighting not because they want to, but because they have to.
Russians are fighting not because they have to, but because they want to.
One got to be really, really thick not to understand the difference?[/QUOTE]He's a compulsive liar. He posted he'd been to Tijuana 30 times during the first year of the pandemic even though his post history clearly debunks that. Also, he stated he lived in Ukraine twice in one post and then claimed he lived there three times in another post. Which is it and who the fuck mixes up how many times they lived somewhere? The answer is only someone who lies so much he can't keep all his lies straight.
[QUOTE=Questner;2792786]From The National Bank: the recent emission of a so called '2-or 3 - or maximum 5 Hryvnia' banknote.[/QUOTE]These are the upcoming notes everyone will be using in Russia.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2792890]He's a compulsive liar. He posted he'd been to Tijuana 30 times during the first year of the pandemic even though his post history clearly debunks that. Also, he stated he lived in Ukraine twice in one post and then claimed he lived there three times in another post. Which is it and who the fuck mixes up how many times they lived somewhere? The answer is only someone who lies so much he can't keep all his lies straight.[/QUOTE]Dude you stalking me and others, in destination you have never been. Again, you have forgotten you have been invited to meet me several times, but you never bother to show up.
Kind of funny, I get sanctioned, for responding to lies, but nothing ever happens to you. Go figure!! My life is great, living the dream. I am in CDMX or MTY every 10 days, banging hot girls, while you complain.
Race to be the first Clown.