South China - Guangzhou

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1206324]Sorry man, I am the wrong guy to ask about latina WGs in KAMA, as I am only interested in slim (<45kg) Chinese WGs and I have yet found any such in bars in Guangzhou, which was why I only do ktvs nowadays. 7 or 8 per session sounds about right though, if you are lucky enough to find one you like, as most of those in KAMA are so fat that I would say they would go back with you for anything.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]The last time I got approached by a Columbian girl it turned out that she was from Kazakhstan and could not speak any Spanish word after I want to use my Spanish skill. FYI.

Great information guys. I've read all 2011 posts yesterday. I'm living in Guangzhou for a few months and looking for places to go, most definately going to try out Deyi.

The other day I went to Blue Coast Spa Club. 388rmb for massages. I got the Chinese style massage but I think next time I go to one of these places I'm going to stick with Thai massage as it seems in previous reports that more goes on. The ML I got was cute, I would say age 23-25, rate a 7. Session began with full body massage and ended with HJ. I think if you have alot of time to kill these Spa clubs are a great place to go to kickback, relax, eat as most everything is included. I plan on trying Nanmei down the street next.

If anyone is in town and willing to show a newbie the ropes that would be cool. Having someone to speak English with would be a nice reprisal.

Hi all.

I'm new and sorry if this was brought up already, but going to China in a few days and want to ask.

Where exactly is the sauna / massage with full service around the hotel, China Marriott?

There`s another hotel next to Marriott and remember seeing one infront of it with tropical decorations, is it the one?

Or some blocks up, a few more massages in different buildings?

Do you recommend me going? Are the women young / pretty

What are the things I should be careful with like how much cash to bring, keeping stuff in a locker, taking how much more of.

Extra cash into a room for a full service and etc.

I like toungue kissing. 69, would I be able to? Or not, or do not recommend doing cause of STDs.

And near the guangzhou east station, read somewhere that there`s a hand job massage, named "room9" or something, anyone know it?

And there`s a KTV type of place in Liuhua park?

Any details of those, and any other recommendations?

I don't really feel comfortable taking cabs for safety reasons, and don't speak Chinese, so brought up the places where I can take walks to.

Seen hookers around Marriott but they are like 10 years older than me, and looked shady.

Hi all.

Sorry if this was brought up already, but going to the country in a few days and want to ask.

Where exactly is the sauna / massage near China Marriott? Is it the one infront of another hotel next to Marriott, with tropical decorations?

Or some blocks up, a few more saunas in different buildings?

Do you recommend me going, women pretty / young? What are the things I should be careful with like how much to bring, keeping stuff in a locker,

Bringing extra cash into a room for the full service.

How about the KTV type of a place in Liu Hua park, a hand job place right around the guanzhou east station, named "room9"or something?

I don't feel like taking cabs for a safety reason, and don't speak Chinese so brought up where I can take walks to.

Like kissing. 69, would I be able to? Or not, or don't recommend doing (STDs?)

Seen hookers around Marriott but they are like 10years older than me, and looked shady too.

[QUOTE=David Yao; 1206087]Thanks man when I'm there early next month I will definitely check out KAMA and revert with findings.

Is it safe nowadays to take the Columbian senoritas back to your hotel rooms? Not worried about the hotel side but would there be scams from the WG once they are at your place? Also do you might know what is the running rate these days for Latina WG? Think it used to be 7 to 8 for one session.[/QUOTE]In general the Colombian girls are more seasoned at their profession. I have taken a few back from Kama, never had a problem. That doesn't mean I won't let my guard down. Always negotiate everything up front, lock your valuables and be smart. I have heard that some have bosses which make sense since there is a good quantity of them all in one place. Back in Aug2011 going rate was 1000rmb for 2 pops

[QUOTE=Luke45;1207197]Sorry if this was brought up already, but going to the country in a few days and want to ask.[/QUOTE]Luke,

Ask not. Read or read not. There is no ask.

Answers you seek can be found in the Forum, and always pass on what you have learned.

Hi,

I will go to Guangzhou in November. But I do not have so much time to spend around. The best thing seems for me to enjoy the night in my hotel room. Has anyone tried any escort services in Guangzhou. I searched a little but most seems fake. I do not want to be disappoined. Waiting for your advice.

And thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Moby Obi; 1207714]Hi,

I will go to Guangzhou in November. But I do not have so much time to spend around. The best thing seems for me to enjoy the night in my hotel room. Has anyone tried any escort services in Guangzhou. I searched a little but most seems fake. I do not want to be disappoined. Waiting for your advice.

And thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Moby,

As GaoXing advised Luke below, ask not. But read! Or as has been said "it is better to give than receive".

Invest a bit of time like SilverSurfie, who read all 2011 to get the lay of the land. Then explore, try new things, occasionally take one for the team, and report back. Then you can ask.

SH

PS: Most outcall is a bad investment, stay away from it.

Hi bachhus9,

I wanted to contact you but you don't have pm available.

I will be in Guangzhou around 17/18 November and like to visit a KTV, but alone it is not too good, maybe you might have time to introduce a nice KTV and we could have some drinks / fun there.

Sorry it is not allowed here to give you my email address, maybe we could contact anyway.

Thanks,

Tijuana

[QUOTE=Bacchus9; 1204479]That is a lot of great and nuanced discussion of the way things work in general and especially in Guangzhou.

There seem to be a lot of KTVs in Tianhe and just watching what goes in and out I get the impression a good portion of them are places Chinese friends and families go without the interests of sittings girls. I could be all wrong. Could also be influenced by the impression I've gotten from going with Chinese friends who just had singing and drinking in mind. There are no guidebooks and the discussions in this thread don't throw much light. I'm trying to read some threads in Chinese like gzsanga but it's slow going there and I'm not sure there's much useful information available there either.

So probably best to continue learning the hard way and see where it leads. Tonight I took another look at the newest one I know of located on Tianhe bei Lu next door (to the left. 4th floor, Thunder) to Hooley's, the Irish Pub. I stumbled into it about a month ago and an English speaker gave me a quick tour. It's luxe looking with designer interior rooms. Tonight not one english speaker out of about a dozen staff, until they brought out a girl from Uzbekistan who spoke just enough to get room rates of 840 to 1280 and up. Sitting girls 500. No way to ask if it went 5/15/20 or not. No mention of tips or drinks minimums. The girls I've seen going in or coming out have been a seriously hot step above what I've seen anywhere else. The Uzbek girl took my phone number and said she would call me. Will see if that happens and what she has in mind. I didn't get the impression she would be calling about the KTV.

Likewise I don't go up the price ladder for the tall, model girls and I'm all ready out of what I like to pay at 3/10/13. 5/15/20 is beyond the pale.

If you've got 2 out of 3 giving BBBJ and 1 in motivational counseling for BJ's I have to salute you. This is a real hit or miss topic and when first in Guangzhou I was beginning to think it wasn't happening at all, but I now know it really depends on the girl. BBBJ and kissing, I've had girls tell me the broad statement that Chinese girls don't like to do. Fortunately not true but many who won't. My favorite refusal line is "kiss on parent's cheek okay".

Thanks the sage advice and insights. You've got a good system and sounds like once in place works and it's smooth sailing.

Bacchus9.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gao Xing; 1207339]Luke,

Ask not. Read or read not. There is no ask.

Answers you seek can be found in the Forum, and always pass on what you have learned.[/QUOTE]Did read some, and kept the pages about massage on my comp, but the page numbers are different now.

Wouldn't it be easier to have different sections? New pages are added always and hard to keep on track or am I too stupid to use the search option well.

How about having diffent threads for massage / sauna, Ktvs, escorts, nightclubs and etc

Anyway, if I have any fun, ill make a report.

Thanks

I recently checked out this club called Duo. Beautiful Russian girls but no response whatsoever. Does anyone have any experience in this place?

Maybe advice on approach.

[QUOTE=Corpo; 1208380]I recently checked out this club called Duo. Beautiful Russian girls but no response whatsoever. Does anyone have any experience in this place?

Maybe advice on approach.[/QUOTE]Duo has no WG as far as I can tell. I go there only if I already have a date, as it has a great dance floor.

Those beautiful Russians often work for modeling agencies. You may have noticed many billboard ads in China feature tall and slim white girls. My apt building in Tianhe has a few of those, as I often share the lift with them. It was kind of awkard to be squeezed into tight space with a few gorgeous women and all I could do was to stand perfectly still.

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Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1208384]Duo has no WG as far as I can tell. I go there only if I already have a date, as it has a great dance floor.

Those beautiful Russians often work for modeling agencies. You may have noticed many billboard ads in China feature tall and slim white girls. My apt building in Tianhe has a few of those, as I often share the lift with them. It was kind of awkard to be squeezed into tight space with a few gorgeous women and all I could do was to stand perfectly still.

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Fillmore[/QUOTE]I figured that since they did not look at all like the few Russians I've seen in Kama. What is your opinion of Babyface.

I've been told that it is worth a look. Seems kind of far from the center.

[QUOTE=Corpo; 1208476]I figured that since they did not look at all like the few Russians I've seen in Kama. What is your opinion of Babyface.

I've been told that it is worth a look. Seems kind of far from the center.[/QUOTE]Yes, babyface and all those other bars near the river are far and not easy to work through. I went a couple of times and did not have much luck, maybe I am Chinese American and that usually make it harder in bar settings. The girls usually go after foreigners.

Did you check out the Qbar at Westin? When I was there last month, I saw a couple of Chinese WGs that I have not seen before and they look quite good.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1208485]Yes, babyface and all those other bars near the river are far and not easy to work through. I went a couple of times and did not have much luck, maybe I am Chinese American and that usually make it harder in bar settings. The girls usually go after foreigners.

Did you check out the Qbar at Westin? When I was there last month, I saw a couple of Chinese WGs that I have not seen before and they look quite good.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]I'll be there in December, maybe worth a pop. I like to go after the FSU since I speak fluently and find there is always a connection.

Ther other one that I've never been to is Cave but not sure if the quality is the same as Kama.