Rio de Janeiro Reports

I mentioned this on the SP thread, though Turgid obstinately and incorrectly IMO argues that "most people who have been to both cities is that Rio is better. " Yet, here we see recent reports from long time visitors saying the opposite. I do think that Rio is a more user friendly destination for tourists and mongers, things are far more concentrated. If you visit SP, its best to find a local monger guide. I live in Rio, for over 2 years now, had lived in SP previously, and plan to return to SP permanently. I will not miss Rio's monger scene one bit, and I know I will have a huge upgrade in my adventures in SP. I know this because in 2016 I spent 2 separate months in SP and had more great sex in those 2 months in SP than in 10 months in Rio. Of course, there are exceptions everywhere, and its quite possible to find some good repeats in Rio. But I am a monger who prefers novelty over repetition, and I have a high standard for beauty and performance.

With that in mind. Rio is slow right now. Just looking at the major sites for free lancers and clinica / prive and the new ads are few and far between. I visit nearly every clinica / prive in centro and zona sul periodiclally to check things out, and the talent level is real real low. Even guys on the local forumx have commented that there is very little new talent in the market.

One seldom commented issue which I believe is a huge part of the problem is the substantial increase in weight of the average Brazilian. The entire population is getting fatter, and girls that a few years ago would have been falsa magras are now gordinhas or worse. This average is reflected in the working girls. Take a hot girl and add a few poorly distributed kilos to her, and she becomes just average looking. To make matters worse, the few "thin" (by Brazil standards) girls incredibly want to get fatter be / see they think men prefer "mulherao" bodies. This drives me crazy be / see the girls that tell me this are not thin by most cultural standards, its just that the Brazil standard has become so distorted that they all think they need body build thighs and silicone ass. They fail to understand that they are already fine, and they will only get worse by trying to get "bigger", they will just lose their nice fine waist and become chubby like the majority. Its a real shame, the body image preference here is all distorted right now. This may be a problem all over Brazil but it seems very pronounced in Rio. At least in Sao Paulo, I found a higher fitness average amongst the working girls.

All of this comes with a huge caveat. Rio is still a great place to visit for mongers that are not jaded (like me and some regular visitors). It can be a pussy paradise for newbies and infrequent visitors. My comments are totally in the relative sense, relative to Rio past, and relative to SP present.

Heading to Brazil very soon and today I decided to compare my puteiro list with recent reports on Gpguia. In Dezember-March I noted that many privées have closed down. Today I was surprised to read reports from quite a few newly opened/reopened privées. Very good news! :)

[QUOTE=Bravo;1970896]I hit up MV30 last night around 8 PM, stayed for about 2 hours. Decent amount of girls for the size of the place and enough guys that you werent the center of attention. Most of the girls were average looking, so real stunners. I met a girl who actually went to high school in Houston, so we had a nice 30 minute conversation about how she went from attending college in America to hoeing in Rio de Janeiro. I think the price was 170 R for 30 minutes and 270 for one hour. I think it as a little expensive for the quality of females but maybe it will be better later in the week.

Two Negatives

1) Tips. One thing that happened to me in MV30 that I never had happen in any other terma. After talking to two females for about 5 minutes, each one asked for a tip. I acted like I didn't understand what a "Caxinha" was. But they both asked for like 20-30 R. I had already bought each one a beer, so I was put off by the asking for a tip. I just excused myself, went to the bathroom and then started talking to another female when I returned.

2) Rip Off. I did not sessoin at MV 30. So when I went to pay at the exit, I was watching while the girl rang up my bill. The screen clearly said 54 R...[/QUOTE]When I go to MV30, I can check inside without paying if there is nothing I directly leave, sometimes they ask me some tips I say I can give you some tips if I don't pay entrance, they just give me a key with a number if I drink one coke I only pay one coke if I don't drink anything I don't pay anything it is nice for me because I can go out to eat something and come back without paying, I pay 5 reais tip, it is a good thing for me.

I was in MV30 last night to find this big booty girl named Dandara, she has received excellent reviews on the internet. While I was having a drink, another girl came up and started a conversation. She asked me if I knew about he promotion. When I said I dint know what she was talking about she mentioned that on Thursday the manger usually has a 2 for 1 promotion. Pay for one girl but you can take two to the room. I haven't seen this mentioned on the board or on forumx, so I wasnt sure if it was true.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1972042]If you visit SP, its best to find a local monger guide.[/QUOTE]There is absolutely zero need to have a monger guide in Sampa. None. Zilch! And especially not a paid one. First, all anybody needs to know is where to go. Here: [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1JXNkvkP94RHlGyX9nX6w0gQfwdg&ll=-23.531449553204123%2C-46.59079589999999&z=11[/URL] (thanks again Nordico)! And then second, you just need a means to get there. Sure, places will come and go, but that's why one should be an avid reader and researcher here on the board. Keep your money in your pockets to procure more pussy and ass for yourself. Because the only monger guide you will ever "need" is the International Sex Guide!

Rovnak re Sao Paulo vs Rio, the former is frankly a dump. The girls might be hotter but ill be damned if I want to spend any time there.

You are totally right about weight though. That nasty trend started many years ago sadly. And also agree about the false tits and arses. If only they realized most males prefer it au naturelle.

[QUOTE=IAmYourFather5;1972109]Rovnak re Sao Paulo vs Rio, the former is frankly a dump. The girls might be hotter but ill be damned if I want to spend any time there.

You are totally right about weight though. That nasty trend started many years ago sadly. And also agree about the false tits and arses. If only they realized most males prefer it au naturelle.[/QUOTE]I'm convinced women don't really care what men think. They think of themselves relative to other women, so if other women have fake tits, they also want fake tits even if 100% of the men tell them "no, no, no, you don't need them and you will only look worse".

[QUOTE=TheCane;1972106]There is absolutely zero need to have a monger guide in Sampa. None. Zilch! And especially not a paid one. First, all anybody needs to know is where to go. Here: [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1JXNkvkP94RHlGyX9nX6w0gQfwdg&ll=-23.531449553204123%2C-46.59079589999999&z=11[/URL] (thanks again Nordico)! And then second, you just need a means to get there. Sure, places will come and go, but that's why one should be an avid reader and researcher here on the board. Keep your money in your pockets to procure more pussy and ass for yourself. Because the only monger guide you will ever "need" is the International Sex Guide![/QUOTE]That is a good map and can help a lot. I was not aware of it, thanks for sharing. No, a guide is not required. I did not have one on my first visit there in 2005 and did fine. My point was more in reference to the casual monger who may not be comfortable with the size and spread of SP, compared to the relative compactness of Rio. To each his own.

[QUOTE=IAmYourFather5;1972109]Rovnak re Sao Paulo vs Rio, the former is frankly a dump. The girls might be hotter but ill be damned if I want to spend any time there.[/QUOTE]This is a matter of taste. If you want the beach scene, then sure Rio is the place to go. If you want good food and nightlife SP is far better for food, and both have good nightlife options. As for your "dump" comment, this is entirely neighborhood specific. To me, much of Rio is a dump compared to the better neighborhoods in SP. Moema, Itaim Bibi, Pinheiros, Jardins, these place are cleaner and as upscale or more than the best neighborhoods in Rio. But lets just say both places have a few good neighborhoods and a lot of bad ones. Its simply wrong to characterize the entire city as a dump. Though you might get that impression riding from the airport. I will agree that SP is most definitely not a touristic city. I often say its a great place to live but I wouldn't want to visit. Unless I was a hard core monger.

I don't see the need for a pissing contest and arguing if Rio or São Paulo is a better mongering city. Every city in Brazil I visited (and I mean even those tiny cities) have puteiros. No need to compare apples with oranges.

IMO São Paulo has much more to offer when it comes to mongering, without any doubt. However as I never liked São Paulo as a city, too huge and ugly for me, I prefer Rio de Janeiro instead of São Paulo. When I spend 3 months in Brazil the mongering is just as small part of my activities. I've visited all states in Brazil. I have several favourites, but Rio wins the race. Not because of the mongering scene, but because of a lot of all other aspects. Not at least the beauty of the city, the beaches etc.

When it comes to mongering in Rio you can easily find 50 puteiros within a couple of blocks. That's amazing. However to find the perfect gem might needs a lot of walking and ringing on door bells, which I don't mind. I like that I can take the metro from Copacabana. Pass by a bunch of puteiros in no time, get laid and be back on the beach in less than 2 hours. That's impossible in São Paulo.

The ones who prefer Rio, stay there, and the ones who like São Paulo, stays there. IMO the less I see of you, other gringos, where I monger, the happier I'll be. :)

I also thinks you should stop complaining on AltoBomGosto. He's the one who gives the most useful TD's on this forum. Personally I would never use a guide, but I'm sure that ABG's offers a very valuable service. Of course he should charge something when he brings a bunch of newbie gringos to the best privées in São Paulo.

Regarding the the trend with horseasses, thick tighs, silicone etc that's a shame. I prefer slimmer girls with pony-asses and everything natural. This thick-trend has been going on for the last two decades. In the nineties the population were poorer and in general way more slimmer and without any silicone/oil-b*llshit in their bodies.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1972172]I don't see the need for a pissing contest and arguing if Rio or So Paulo is a better mongering city. Every city in Brazil I visited (and I mean even those tiny cities) have puteiros. No need to compare apples with oranges.

I also thinks you should stop complaining on AltoBomGosto. He's the one who gives the most useful TD's on this forum. Personally I would never use a guide, but I'm sure that ABG's offers a very valuable service. Of course he should charge something when he brings a bunch of newbie gringos to the best prives in So Paulo.
[/QUOTE]Its only a pissing match if people get pissy about it. Otherwise, I think its perfectly reasonable to compare them so that people who are planning to visit can make accurate choices on how to spend their time. In other posts I have listed what I think are the objectively different pros and cons of each location. Each reader can then decide which is best for them based on what is more important to them. I wouldn't agree that its apples vs oranges re putaria because both places have the same elements. Prives, clinicas, free lancers, boates / thermas, trash. Comparing those elements in terms of quantity, accessibility, hours, rates, and infrastructure is a perfectly reasonable and valuable discussion IMO. I jumped into the discussion trying to add those objective criteria (or maybe it was int he SP thread) because there were so many posts with no substantiation suggesting one city was a better location than the other. Like you, I have no great desire to see more gringos, but I also have an instinctive aversion to reading misrepresentation of places I know quite well.

Agree w you re ABG. The guy contributes a huge amount of information, and if people want extra personal service, its a laissez faire world. I have met many mongers who can't find their way around without some help and they are happy that someone is there to offer it. As Tom Jobim said "Brazil is not for beginners", sometimes it helps to have some help from someone on the ground.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1972184] I jumped into the discussion trying to add those objective criteria (or maybe it was int he SP thread) because there were so many posts with no substantiation suggesting one city was a better location than the other.[/QUOTE]
My post wasn't because of what you wrote Rovnak. As you propably know, your posts are one of the fews that I always read and value a lot, instead of scrolling by quickly. I just got tired of reading the whining from those who spent two weeks in Brazil and wants to use the forum as a boxing ring between Rio and São Paulo even though they do not know not a sh*t (I know the forum is filled of very sensitive people, no intention to offend anyone).

[QUOTE=Sperto;1972191]My post wasn't because of what you wrote Rovnak. As you propably know, your posts are one of the fews that I always read and value a lot, instead of scrolling by quickly. I just got tired of reading the whining from those who spent two weeks in Brazil and wants to use the forum as a boxing ring between Rio and So Paulo even though they do not know not a sh*t (I know the forum is filled of very sensitive people, no intention to offend anyone).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the kind words. I did not interpret your post as directed at me, but I just wanted to respond to clarify my motivation to the rest of the readers.

Cheers.

As far as I am concerned, the quality and quantity has been watering down for over 15 years already. Much of this began once the ladies starting chasing the Euros years ago. Plus a couple of other factors. None the less, there is still plenty bunda in Rio and SP. If you learn the language, even more options are presented to you.

Logistics are my number 1 priority, and Rio fits my needs adequately. One may have to dig a bit deeper in their pockets, and search a bit more, but there are gems to be found. If you happen to find one before they become jaded, homerun!

Ate logo!

Sperto making a lot of sense below. Anyway a toast to Brazil. Great country. And Rio is a place I'm always prepared to go to on holiday when not mongering. I love the place. If any of you are in Rio over Christmas and New year let me know, and lets go and party.