American Politics

[QUOTE=Spidy;2965865][I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] What lies? The only lies, are the ones you're telling yourself!

Isn't this just typical, coming from the morally corrupt, MAGA / Repub lunatic fringe, to suggest a DOJ, AG or the office, shouldn't investigate and follow up on credible leads with regards to criminal and corrupt actions of their politicians.

When partisan Repub Florida AG and the office, that hands out pitiful plea deals and a "slap on the wrist", to pedos and sex traffickers like Matt Gaetz and Jeffery Epstein, of course MAGA is going to think, [I][b]"...there's nothing to see here"[/b][/I]. But we all now know the truth about Jeffery Epstein and it's the exact same with Matt Gaetz. For now, Joel Greenberg is the only fall guy.

[B]Matt Gaetzs Alleged Sex Crimes, Explained[/B]

[URL]https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/matt-gaetz-alleged-sex-crimes-explained-1235173669/[/URL]

It's just hilarious, how you, Elvis 2008 and Tiny 12, the MAGA defenders and sympathizers of Matt Gaetz pedo behavior, can't see the long standing pattern of criminal sexual behavior, is not worthy of holding office, is just sad!

[U]Take the Lastest MAGA INCEL\Misogynist with sexual misconduct:[/U]

Pete Hegseth, is yet another, in a long line of MAGA / Repub ranting lunatics, racist idiots, incels and misogynists with mommy issues [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I], who is woefully unqualified, has zero job credibility, for the position and office of SecDef.

In a damning email, his own mother (for fuck's sake), drops a dime on him and accuses him of mistreating women for years.

[INDENT][i][b]Text of the Email That Pete Hegseth's Mother Sent Him. [/b]"...You are an abuser of women, that is the ugly truth, and I've no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around and uses women for his own power and ego, you are that man and have been for years. And as your mother it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth. You're abuse over the years to women (dishonesty, sleeping around, betrayal, debasing, belittling) needs to be called out...On behalf of all the women (and I know it's many) you have abused in some way, I say...get some help and take an honest look at yourself. You are an abuser of women." [/i]

[b]NYT: [/b][url]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/29/us/politics/hegseth-email-text.html[/url] Nov 29th, 2024[/INDENT]
Under pressure from Pete, she later, in a "damage control" puff piece interview, she disavows what she said in the email, but the whole episode with his mother, was just seen as creepy, cringy and further evidence of how much of a scumbag, Pete Hegseth really is, to have involved his mother in such a terrible and desperate attempt, to backpedal and walk-back, his pattern of unfit behavior for office.

But surely you're not suggesting, the good-folk here at ISG, have anything to do with that kind of rape or pedo criminal behavior, Matt Gaetz and Pete Hegseth, are associated with, whom you are defending?

Last but not least, remember Elvis 2008, your mommy knows best and she certainly knows, who you, incels and misogynists are! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I].[/QUOTE]Keep writing you are their best Cheerleaders!!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2965818]Isn't that the same James 'Carnival' who was giddy with joyous anticipation just days before November 5th because it was so obvious Harris had the edge over Trump?

Uh. There was a Joker in the deck that everyone knew about well before the election when both camps were maneuvering and campaigning to win them over because it was understood they were likely to be so critical to winning precisely those three states that made the difference between a President-elect Trump and a President-elect Harris; the Muslim community in PA, MI and WI.

Then, suddenly, a funny thing happened; when it actually DID come down to that Joker in the deck popping up in someone's card hand, everyone got selective amnesia about how and why they were so concerned about them and pursuing them leading up to the election. LOL. And just 114,848 of them spread over those three states voting for Trump instead of Harris made all the difference.

But James 'Carnival' and so many others don't want to accept that such a small sliver of incomprehensibly silly mindset voters produced such a horrific, history-altering result. Oh no no no. It must have been due to some vast and complex network of failed philosophy, results, messaging and campaigning.

I liken it to the refusal after all these decades to accept the fact that one lone gunman, a pathetic loser in almost every way, firing off a couple of bullets into his target in Dealy Plaza, Dallas, Texas was all it took to set in motion generations of dark clouds in America.

Yep. No more than 114,848 angry Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims spread among just those three states fired those 2-3 shots and very, very likely effectively put an end to this 240+ year American experiment. Hard for some to accept, I know. But there it is.

LOL. Of course, pro Repub pundits like Bill Maher and in most of Mainstream Media would much prefer Democrats "examine their conscience", "reaaccess their whole Party mission" and dump what they have been doing to win more votes than Repubs in practically every presidential election since 1992, come damn close to winning the presidency again this time with a female of mixed minority ethnicity against a 2nd term white old man candidate and would have won back the House if not for Repubs rigging it like never before and despite their policies and stewardship producing every Historic Economic Recovery, Economic Expansion and Jobs Creation of the past 100 years including the one America is experiencing right this very minute and none of the Historic Economic Downturns and Jobs Destruction including the one the incoming Repub produced the first time around as well as the Repub before him, the one before him, the one before him, etc.

Because it had to be some momentous force that created such a momentous potential decline for America on November 5th, right? Nope. Just a Joker in the deck that everyone seemed to know about beforehand but just can not afterwards accept was as capable of producing as much if not quite a bit more damage to the country as one lone Dallas gunman or 15 hijackers performing a jihad against America in the cockpits of 3 airliners on one sunny September morning.[/QUOTE]Everyone's wrong but Bullshitting Bangkok Bob, yes Carville Dick Morris Mark Penn Rahm Emannuel et al.

Everyone says the psychotic Trans feminist crazies like Spidy have highjacked their party except you.

That's cool, stay the course, I agree with you everything is fine, nothing to see here folks just move along.

Now get back to watching the Joy Reid show on a loop 24/7.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2965865]But we now know the truth about Jeffery Epstein and it's the exact same with Matt Gaetz.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Epstein was tried and convicted as was Hunter Biden. Epstein was killed in jail, and Hunter was pardoned. Gaetz and Hegseth were investigated and not charged.

In this case of Gaetz, the reason were the witnesses against him were unreliable, scummy people engaged in criminal activity. In Hegseth's case, it was a married woman at a hotel party who claimed she did not like how Hegseth treated women, fucked him, and then later lied to her husband about where she was. Hegseth said they had consensual sex but the woman said she had sex against her will, but this same woman's story contradicted the testimony of other guests and she had accused a different man of raping her in similar circumstances.

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14142497/Leaked-email-Pete-Hegseth-mother-stunning-allegation.html[/URL]

Doe's husband was also at the hotel and texted her close to 2 am, wondering where she was.

When she returned to her room at 4 am, she reportedly lied to her husband that she had fallen asleep on someone's couch.

End of link. Yeah, that is what you do after you are raped, lie to your husband.

As for Hegesth's mother, there is this, [URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14142497/Leaked-email-Pete-Hegseth-mother-stunning-allegation.html[/URL].

When reached by the Times for comment, Penelope Hegseth. An executive business coach by trade. Gave a completely different story and totally took back what she'd written.

'It is not true. It has never been true. I know my son. He is a good father, husband,' before calling the Times 'disgusting' for publishing the email.

She says that it was written 'in anger, with emotion' at the time Hegseth and Samantha were divorcing.

End of link. This is the issue with this believe all women crap. When I was in my divorce, my mother could have easily written a letter as my ex-wife was so good at hiding what a psycho she was. Once people saw the real her, the question went from how could you have cheated on her to how could you have put up with her for so long?

And my own mother met some of my sugar babies and it was quite the eye opener for her. She saw respectable, attractive, ethical, hard working women who just needed a little help financially. The image of women being preyed upon and plied with drugs and threats to have sex was gone.

So I am done with this sexual accusation crap, and I hope all Republicans are. I have a lot more concern whether a future Secretary of Defense is of sound character than his love life and what some female psycho he has been with once thinks of him. I had a lot more concerns with Kavanaugh and his disdain for the 4th amendement than I did with what he did at 15.

At this point, I have to ask, Spidy the Soy Boy, what are you doing here? Do you even see women who are P4 P? Do you get the legal importance of distinguishing between helping woman out and paying for sex? I swear to God it seems like you have never had to deal with any psycho women, and that makes me wonder if you have ever seen any women at all.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2965685]I voted for the Pro Russia Pro Putin candidate as did 77 million other fine Americans.

So had they better love his Pro Russia Cabinet picks.

I Love Vladimir, Long Live the Motherland!![/QUOTE]Say what you want about MDS, but he's honest. You can't take it away from him.

He's the only one here who openly wants Trump to rule like a dictator.

He's the only one here who admits that he wants "full scale" Civil War (although maybe not anymore since this election "wasn't stolen" from him). BTW, does anyone know why?

He's the only one here who publicly announces his undying love for tyrant and mass murderer Vladimir Putin.

Unlike pathetic hypocrites who inflate their rhetoric to appear as champions of democracy, defenders of the Constitution, supporters of the rule of law, and even compassionate allies of the Ukrainian people (which is the funniest of all their lets-pretends), MDS doesn't mince words at all. He knows what he wants and isn't scared to say it.

Well, kudos!

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2965849][b]During that period, since 1946, Democrats got on average 3.9% more House seats than they deserved based on the House popular vote. That's an average of 17 more House seats, every election! [/b] [/QUOTE]Tooms, I made a mistake. Democrats actually only got on average 9 more House seats than they deserved in elections since 1946, not 17 more seats. You can reproduce my number using the 3. 9% above along with the average of 238 Democratic House seats since the 1946 election from this link.

[URL]https://history.house.gov/Institution/Party-Divisions/Party-Divisions/[/URL]

238 - (238/1. 039) = 9 more seats than Democrats deserved.

Still 9 seats is significant. Nowadays it can sometimes mean the difference in which party controls Congress.

[QUOTE=AsianSteve22;2965759]You're just scared your cushy worker benefits will go to the military if Trump forces you Frenchies to contribute more to NATO.[/QUOTE]I know Siri and I'm pretty sure you nailed him on the forehead LOLOLOL.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2965851]I didn't vote for Trump, or Harris. But there are two good things about the Trump victory.

1. The senseless war in Ukraine is more likely to come to an end. Neoconservatives will no longer have absolute control over foreign policy and defense.

2. The USA is less likely to become like France. Bill Clinton in his 2nd term was a good president. Obama went to the left of Clinton, and Biden to the left of Obama. And Kamala Harris is to the left of Biden. Say Kamala had been elected president. And Democrats had won the House and the Senate, after having ejected reasonable members of their caucus like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. And say they stayed in power for 20 years. We'd be in the same shape as France. Maybe 25% worse off than we could be otherwise in terms of per capita income. And in danger of becoming the next Greece. Harris may not be as crazy as Francois Hollande, but her preferred policies are more likely to bring economic stagnation to America than some other French leaders.[/QUOTE]John Thomas rec'd approx 90000 votes in the PA Senate race.

Casey lost by approx 16000 votes had John Thomas stole a few more votes, Casey would of won.

Maybe Chase "the Gun" who rec'd 0. 04%, had rec'd approx 2. 4% instead he could of threw it to Harris the whoor, is that what you wanted?

Did you vote for that or not? You seem quite schizophrenic.

So what about?

1. The senseless war in Ukraine is more likely to come to an end. Neoconservatives will no longer have absolute control over foreign policy and defense.

2. The USA is less likely to become like France. Bill Clinton in his 2nd term was a good president. Obama went to the left of Clinton, and Biden to the left of Obama. And Kamala Harris is to the left of Biden. Say Kamala had been elected president. And Democrats had won the House and the Senate, after having ejected reasonable members of their caucus like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. And say they stayed in power for 20 years. We'd be in the same shape as France. Maybe 25% worse off than we could be otherwise in terms of per capita income. And in danger of becoming the next Greece. Harris may not be as crazy as Francois Hollande, but her preferred policies are more likely to bring economic stagnation to America than some other French leaders.

Long Live Vladimir and the Motherland!!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2965398]
Greenberg told Barr's DOJ he could implicate Gaetz in exchange for leniency, and the present investigation into Gaetz was opened....[/QUOTE]Good post Elvis, and that's absolutely true.

Respectfully maybe we should stop replying to Spidy. Anybody with half a brain knows the accusations he's leveling at you and me about p**** are ridiculous. However it may just get us in trouble with Admin, and that kind of behavior is against the ISG code of honor.. So perhaps better to discuss other topics. "Don't feed the troll."

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2965849]This "what if" line of reasoning appeals to you and some MAGA Repubicans. "What if" 100% of Muslims had voted for Harris? "What if" Republicans had just gotten 11,284 more votes in Georgia, 21,347 more votes in Wisconsin, and so on?

I saw the sanctimonious, delusional partisan Democrat, Wiley Nickel, on MSNBC's Morning Joe yesterday. He's the subject of the article you linked to above at bullshitout.org. Since 1946, Democrats have cheated much more effectively than Republicans, in getting more than their fair share of House seats. [b]During that period, since 1946, Democrats got on average 3.9% more House seats than they deserved based on the House popular vote. That's an average of 17 more House seats, every election! [/b] (.039 x 435 total House seats = 17)

Republicans managed to turn the table in 2012 to 2016, but since then Democrats have gotten a marginally higher % of House Seats than votes.

See the last column in this table compiled by the Democrat-controlled Brookings Institution if you want to verify:

[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/vitalstats_ch2_tbl2.pdf[/URL]

The table goes through 2018. Here's the difference between the Democratic percentage of seats won, and the percentage of votes won since then:

2020 +0.7%
2022 +1.2%
2024 +1.6%.

The 2024 results reflect a final tally of 220 GOP House seats and 215 Democrat seats. [B]The Republicans won the House by a 5 seat margin, not one seat, as you keep repeatedly saying. [/B].

So, Republicans are up to the same dirty tricks in North Carolina that Democrats (and Republicans) have been up to in other states for at least the last 78 years. Here are some stats for comparison.

North Carolina: Harris received 47.6% of the popular vote; House Democrats got 28.6% of the seats.

New York: Trump 44%; House Republicans 27%
Illinois: Trump 44%; House Republicans 18%
Oregon: Trump 41%; House Republicans 17%
New Mexico: Trump 46%; House Republicans 0%

You can reproduce using the following sites and switching states:

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/north-carolina-house-results[/URL]
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/results/north-carolina[/URL]

Admittedly I could probably come up with Republican states just as wildly unfair as the blue states above. Still, historically, the Democrats have cheated more effectively than Republicans, as clearly shown by the numbers. Democrat think tanks and media sources attempt to show that Republicans are better at gerrymandering House seats, but the numbers clearly show they're wrong. Crafty Democrats.[/QUOTE]You mean like "What if" the Majority in the House and Senate were determined by the number of popular votes each Party got across the country?

And "What if" the presidential candidates had enough time and money to campaign and run constant ads in every state as much as they go to "battle" in order to "swing" the only votes that ultimately matter in the Battleground / Swing States as they clearly did with the Muslim comminity demo in those three ultimately determinative Battleground / Swing States this time around?

But they don't.

IF they did, the popular votes in the House, Senate and Presidency would very possibly be quite different than they are now that one Party's candidate and ad money often does not even show up very much in traditionally tried and true Red or Blue States and heavily gerrymandered House districts.

Particularly, again, since winning the popular vote for the Party or the presidential candidate has zero to do with who "deserves" the Senate Majority, House Majority or Presidrbcy.

Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2965813]Something to think about and compare. Look at the families of most politicians, movie types, and sports people. Most are horrible. [b]Now look at Trump's family and even his grand children.[/b] Strong close family.[/QUOTE]Any batter can take two strikes and still hit a home run. It is the average that batter has over his career that puts him in the Hall of Fame.

Please read the article below. [B]Let me know if you would like to retract any part of your statement[/B].

[URL]https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/relationships/love-sex/donald-trumps-family-journey-marriages-divorces-and-children/photostory/115014511.cms[/URL]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2965813]Kinda tells you a lot about the guy without even knowing him.[/QUOTE]Curious to know what you think his history of marriage tells us about [B]President Elect Trump[/B]?

[QUOTE=AsianSteve22;2965759]You're just scared your cushy worker benefits will go to the military if Trump forces you Frenchies to contribute more to NATO.[/QUOTE]I hate a crazy shameful small dick like Trump, to behave like this with women. For me, he is Putin brother. I don t welcome him in France. When I love Russia for the country and Ukrainians and Russians are true brothers, but I will always support Ukrainians versus criminal Putin, like I support Palestinians versus criminal Netanyahou. For freedom for both to get a country and peace. But US know so few about outside world, except money. US are less than 5% of world population and so scared of China, when I m not, when I don t buy chinese shit products, like I would not buy US low quality for most products, compare to Western European standards. I m pretty sure Trump will fuck deeply US, when he is master of bullshit.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2965868]Everyone's wrong but Bullshitting Bangkok Bob, yes Carville Dick Morris Mark Penn Rahm Emannuel et al.

Everyone says the psychotic Trans feminist crazies like Spidy have highjacked their party except you.

That's cool, stay the course, I agree with you everything is fine, nothing to see here folks just move along.

Now get back to watching the Joy Reid show on a loop 24/7.[/QUOTE][B]Muslim voters once abandoned the GOP. Now they may leave the Democrats.
Anger about Gaza helped Donald Trump win the most Arab American city in the country, while support for Kamala Harris was cut in half.
Nov. 10, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/muslim-voters-abandoned-gop-now-may-leave-democrats-rcna179304[/URL]

[QUOTE]Trump won 42% of the vote a nearly 15 percentage-point gain from 2020 in Dearborn, where more than half of residents are of Middle Eastern descent. Harris, meanwhile, received just 36% in the city, barely more than half of Bidens 2020 vote share. Stein received 18% of the vote, compared to less than 1% nationwide.
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"Our final exit poll of American Muslim voters confirms that opposition to the Biden administrations support for the war on Gaza played a crucial role, leading to a sharp drop in support for Vice President Harris, said CAIR National Government Affairs Director Robert S. McCaw.
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"Our efforts in mobilizing the community demonstrated that Muslim Americans are no longer taken for granted. [B]Trump has acknowledged our role, [/b]and we are ready to work alongside his administration to advocate for policies that support peace and unity, said Rabiul Chowdhury, a co-founder of [b]Muslims for Trump, which was active in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.[/b]
[/QUOTE]Why do you doubt your lord and savior about this and now suddenly side with James 'Carnival'?

BTW, the numbers can not be refuted by anyone; less than a 115,000 vote swing from Harris to Trump or Trump to Harris spread over just three significantly Muslim-demo battleground / swing states would have and did decide the outcome of the presidential election, the exact states where Trump's new favorite political activist organization, Muslims for Trump, mobilized their anti-Biden-Harris ground game in order to "give him the presidency. ".

Has it not yet occurred to you that there is NO FUTURE JOB AND INCOME OPPORTUNITY for 'Carnival', Penn, Morris, et al to simply admit Harris or any other Dem candidate should have worked harder to explain how stupid and sure to be regretted the reasoning was behind any Muslims ever voting for Trump rather than blaming it on a vast array of complex Total Party issues that they and only they are brilliant enough to overhaul from top to bottom?

Lololol. Again, P. T. Barnum grossly underestimated how often a sucker is born, probably because his estimate was made prior to the MAGA movement.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2965889][b]Why can't all Trumpies be like Marquis?[/b]

Say what you want about MDS, but he's honest. You can't take it away from him.

He's the only one here who openly wants Trump to rule like a dictator.

He's the only one here who admits that he wants "full scale" Civil War (although maybe not anymore since this election "wasn't stolen" from him). BTW, does anyone know why?

He's the only one here who publicly announces his undying love for tyrant and mass murderer Vladimir Putin.

Unlike pathetic hypocrites who inflate their rhetoric to appear as champions of democracy, defenders of the Constitution, supporters of the rule of law, and even compassionate allies of the Ukrainian people (which is the funniest of all their lets-pretends), MDS doesn't mince words at all. He knows what he wants and isn't scared to say it.

Well, kudos![/QUOTE]From Trump on top all the way down to MDS in his preferred position as a bottom, all MAGAs and Trumpies celebrate and admit to these Anti-America, America-hating sentiments and hopes amongst themselves.

Yes, he is different in that he cuts through any pretense otherwise here. But even as far back as Reagan, he and his cult followers were proud to openly and without shame declare War Against America; That this free and democratic government of, by and for We, The People is "not the solution to our problems" but instead "IS the problem. ".

Repubs have been plotting, planning, scheming, lying, cheating, stealing and acting accordingly in response to that Ronald Reagan War Whoop Against America ever since.

LOL it's called sarcasm. And chicken little, FYI by US law Trump can't rule like a dictator any more than emperor Obama. I mean how much of their stuff didn't pass over their 3 terms. And make no mistake about it, Obama tried to rule like an emperor, hell everybody knows he still calls the shots for the whole party up to 2024. So much so NBC called him a bigger loser in the election than Harris.

Fun fact Putin only does land grabs when democrats are in office. If people like you can't understand why tons of voters that voted for biden switched over to Trump, then you're going to keep losing with that dictator rhetoric. Treating people that consider voting for Trump like they were and at zis instead of trying to focus on why they were considering abandoning the current administration and being empathetic with their concerns probably cost your party 5 million votes. Your party managed to alienate legal Mexicans, black men, and Muslims, 3 groups whose 5-10% swing from biden to Trump decided the election. I mean how the hell does a black candidate actually do worse with blacks than a guy that voted against black kids being on integrated school busses in the 1980's and who got called out for it by said candidate that he turned around and made his VP. LOL you literally can't make any of this stuff up. Just stop with the strongman talk, the reason why Harris lost, she was a worse candidate than Trump. She had no vision, Biden had a approval rating lower than Trump's pre-covid and post- covid. She couldn't answer a legitimate, unrehearsed question, even from her friends on The View.

Tons of Democrat politicians, donors, and yes, voters have said as much. It's time to grow up and lose the strongman / dictator excuses and actually understand why she lost. People that voted for Biden; black men, Muslims and Latinos, changed their minds and put Trump over the top. He actually did better with college graduates of all races and worse with white older Americans. But keep up the dictator excuses without actually caring about the real reasons they lost and watch more GenZ voters turn red while the old GOP voters age out. I mean 40% of women under 30. Even Reagan wasn't getting that. And naturally, more people become conservative as they age and gain more life experiences. Millennials probably won't be any different as the counterculture population also became more conservative with age. GenZ is already getting there. This has to be alarming for the Democrat party, and it goes way beyond Trump, who is probably the one candidate in the republican party they should be able to beat in a general election. Independent voters (those that don't vote in primaries) will probably find people like JD Vance, Tim Scott, and Marco rubio even more easy to vote for.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2965889]Say what you want about MDS, but he's honest. You can't take it away from him.

He's the only one here who openly wants Trump to rule like a dictator.

He's the only one here who admits that he wants "full scale" Civil War (although maybe not anymore since this election "wasn't stolen" from him). BTW, does anyone know why?

He's the only one here who publicly announces his undying love for tyrant and mass murderer Vladimir Putin.

Unlike pathetic hypocrites who inflate their rhetoric to appear as champions of democracy, defenders of the Constitution, supporters of the rule of law, and even compassionate allies of the Ukrainian people (which is the funniest of all their lets-pretends), MDS doesn't mince words at all. He knows what he wants and isn't scared to say it.

Well, kudos![/QUOTE]

And Biden won the battleground states by even less, what's your point?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2965963][B]Muslim voters once abandoned the GOP. Now they may leave the Democrats.
Anger about Gaza helped Donald Trump win the most Arab American city in the country, while support for Kamala Harris was cut in half.
Nov. 10, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/muslim-voters-abandoned-gop-now-may-leave-democrats-rcna179304[/URL]

Why do you doubt your lord and savior about this and now suddenly side with James 'Carnival'?

BTW, the numbers can not be refuted by anyone; less than a 115,000 vote swing from Harris to Trump or Trump to Harris spread over just three significantly Muslim-demo battleground / swing states would have and did decide the outcome of the presidential election, the exact states where Trump's new favorite political activist organization, Muslims for Trump, mobilized their anti-Biden-Harris ground game in order to "give him the presidency. "..[/QUOTE]