Jakarta

[QUOTE=HelloYou;2778236]Awww thanks. Good to know. The place looked so dodgy. I wasn t sure if they were going to rob me or anything though. Not sure if it was the train track place as well.[/QUOTE]
Those who are still interested in finding the holy Grail Train Track.

Just Google it "Gang Royal Rawa Bebek Penjaringan" there are a lot of information about it. You could also search on You tube there are reasonable number of video clips about this RLD.
This is one example from YT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l24bmfsKXI
The government have been trying to close this place multiple times but it still exist for obvious reason. Just closing RLD will not solve the problem.
As other people say, it is not suggestible for those who come to Jakarta for the first time. But this place is cheap and relatively good looking young girls, You might get short term for 120 k rupiahs or even less. If you ask taxi motor bike, Gojek Or Grab around that areas, most of them know exactly where this place is. Just be aware the area around Penjaringan is not considered safe.

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It's not a place at which I'd regularly frequent but a unique option to take a friend who has already experienced the seedier sides of Asia and is wanting to drop a couple of rungs lower.[/QUOTE]
I second with this option. People will need to try themselves and make their own choice, judgement.
Otherwise the scene will be dominated by agents (scammers) creating multiple account in social networking, Twitter, Instagram. Keep in mind if you book though agents, half of your money or evne more could be in the agent pockets.

Came back to classic after 5 years. At about 8 pm. Tons of girls, not many guys which made the ratio fantastic. There are still gems to be found here and I was pleasantly surprised not knowing what to expect after Covid. The price has gone up now to 375 with a 40 K minimum spend. Went with 2 spinners separately after making sure they hadn't had babies of course service was great I was just lucky. BBBJ and the works. Will add more to my report later in the week.

Has anybody taken girls out of classic, travel, kota for LT or overnights?

I've booked out of classic before. The amount of vouchers you have to pay will vary based on your negotiation skills, the time of day you book her out, the mamasan and the overall popularity of the lady.

If you want to take her out early in the evening expect to pay at least 6-8 vouchers. So 6 to 8 * 375. If after, say 10-11 pm, it should be about 5 vouchers. 5*375.

I would highly recommend you only book out ladies you know, have already fucked and have somewhat of a rapport with and are known good providers. The lady I booked was relatively new to the scene and seemed to really enjoy sex. And I had already fucked her on site in the room twice. I asked her if she was available to book out with me and she enthusiastically said yes. I made it clear before I booked her out I would be fucking her at least 5 times that evening. And if she was ok with that. And she delivered! At those prices, it's the only thing that makes sense. Unless, I guess, you just want a lady to go to dinner with and take on a date.

So yeah. It's an available option. But really only one I utilize with known good providers that I already know and have agreed to fuck multiple times on a booking. She will be messaging her handler back at the mes a few times and she will leave in the morning around 8 or 9 am. So don't expect her to sleep in with you.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2784326]Has anybody taken girls out of classic, travel, kota for LT or overnights?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;2784453]I've booked out of classic before. The amount of vouchers you have to pay will vary based on your negotiation skills, the time of day you book her out, the mamasan and the overall popularity of the lady.

If you want to take her out early in the evening expect to pay at least 6-8 vouchers. So 6 to 8 * 375. If after, say 10-11 pm, it should be about 5 vouchers. 5*375.

I would highly recommend you only book out ladies you know, have already fucked and have somewhat of a rapport with and are known good providers. The lady I booked was relatively new to the scene and seemed to really enjoy sex. And I had already fucked her on site in the room twice. I asked her if she was available to book out with me and she enthusiastically said yes. I made it clear before I booked her out I would be fucking her at least 5 times that evening. And if she was ok with that. And she delivered! At those prices, it's the only thing that makes sense. Unless, I guess, you just want a lady to go to dinner with and take on a date.

So yeah. It's an available option. But really only one I utilize with known good providers that I already know and have agreed to fuck multiple times on a booking. She will be messaging her handler back at the mes a few times and she will leave in the morning around 8 or 9 am. So don't expect her to sleep in with you.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree for overnight booking in your hotel, it is a good idea if you already know the girls otherwise you might get your valuable stolen and it is difficult to prove it. Unless you have safe box in your hotel.

Having sex 5 x from 11 pm to 8 am will be possible if both of you do not sleep that night. Is this the case??

Also for this 10-11 pm, 5*375 vouchers did you pay all in advance, before you took the girl out or just half it ? And half of it were paid in the following morning ?

Hi All,

Anyone know whether Kartika is still up and run? All my visit there pre-covid was fantasy. Miss this place so much.

Any soapy massage similar? I remember 2 girls soapy in Kartika only around IDR700 k. Please let me know if any similar place exist as will be traveling to Jakarta end of this month. Thanks.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2780330]The girls at the Classics and KI's are younger and prettier, but they usually can't go with you to any travel adventure. Many times, they work this line because they owe a money debt to Ibu and their organization hangs on to their KTP so they can't leave town. Also, they usually work every day. This is why the freelancers at BATS or Tinder would be a better bet. More expensive and 5 years older. Usually with kid (funny I haven't had a Tinder date that was with a freelancer without kids yet).[/QUOTE]There s a bird I like I'd like to take her out but she wants to do all via the club. It's annoying because last time I wanted to take her out after midnight they still asked me for 2 M. They may ask for more if I want her earlier.

She also say she works 7 days a week so don't have any free time.

But she never mentioned debt and said she love her job. Doesn t make any sense. Why work so hard and love the job.

[QUOTE=Tedne88;2785251]Hi All,

Anyone know whether Kartika is still up and run? All my visits there pre-covid was fantasy. Miss this place so much.

Any soapy massage similar? I remember 2 girls soapy in Kartika only around IDR700 k. Please let me know if any similar place exists as I will be traveling to Jakarta end of this month. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've probably posted about Kartika more than anyone else here on ISG ever since my first visit in August 2004. Still my all-time favorite spa in Jakarta, definitely miss it as well.

I last visited Kartika (twice) in 2018, and as best I can determine, it's now closed down and Berlian Spa (which used to be 3 doors up the same alley) has moved into the same physical space. Berlian should be able to provide a soapy nuru massage similar to Kartika, some of the girls did so back in 2004-08 when I lived in Jakarta. Other possibilities for nuru are Malioboro, or Sumo Shiatsu in Kelapa Gading (if it's still open), I'm sure there are other places as well.

One quirky story that I may have already told. In February 2005 I had a great two-girl session at Kartika with Cynthia (Sintia) and Sonia, notable because Sonia was one of the few Chinese girls working at any of the MPs in that neighborhood. She was taller than the other girls, had distinctive red hair, was 30 years old, and was one of the few girls at Kartika who spoke good English. I had several other sessions with Sonia through 2008 although by then her service level and enthusiasm had dropped off.

I visited Kartika in March 2018, my first visit in 9 years, walked in the door and there was Sonia, still working, who greeted me by my name. I was flattered that she remembered my name but then it dawned on me that she had to have been in her early 40's at that point. No, I did not choose her, I selected a 25-year-old Javanese girl named Ririn (great oral skills) and a 19-or-21 year old named Veronica (great tits) for a 2-girl session, then came back for a solo session with Ririn.

Does anyone else have more up-to-date info on Kartika?

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2786480]I've probably posted about Kartika more than anyone else here on ISG ever since my first visit in August 2004....

Does anyone else have more up-to-date info on Kartika?[/QUOTE]I was there a year later in 2019 and it was well past it's prime by then. A very limited choice of pretty rough ladies. Only enough to fill one couch to the left of the entry. It still saw the odd foreigner but only nostalgic old-timers.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2378719]After walking around town for a few days, I was in need of a massage so decided to combine one with our favourite hobby. A soapy at Kartika was deemed to be well in order....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2786480]I've probably posted about Kartika more than anyone else here on ISG ever since my first visit in August 2004. Still my all-time favorite spa in Jakarta, definitely miss it as well.

I last visited Kartika (twice) in 2018, and as best I can determine, it's now closed down and Berlian Spa (which used to be 3 doors up the same alley) has moved into the same physical space. Berlian should be able to provide a soapy nuru massage similar to Kartika, some of the girls did so back in 2004-08 when I lived in Jakarta. Other possibilities for nuru are Malioboro, or Sumo Shiatsu in Kelapa Gading (if it's still open), I'm sure there are other places as well.

One quirky story that I may have already told. In February 2005 I had a great two-girl session at Kartika with Cynthia (Sintia) and Sonia, notable because Sonia was one of the few Chinese girls working at any of the MPs in that neighborhood. She was taller than the other girls, had distinctive red hair, was 30 years old, and was one of the few girls at Kartika who spoke good English. I had several other sessions with Sonia through 2008 although by then her service level and enthusiasm had dropped off.

I visited Kartika in March 2018, my first visit in 9 years, walked in the door and there was Sonia, still working, who greeted me by my name. I was flattered that she remembered my name but then it dawned on me that she had to have been in her early 40's at that point. No, I did not choose her, I selected a 25-year-old Javanese girl named Ririn (great oral skills) and a 19-or-21 year old named Veronica (great tits) for a 2-girl session, then came back for a solo session with Ririn.

Does anyone else have more up-to-date info on Kartika?[/QUOTE]Hi, Thanks for the information. Really miss this old running down place, but I have very very good nuru experience here especially with 2 ladies, even thought they try to ripped me off by giving additional 500 K to each of them. Anyway, Nuru at Malio? Care to give me more information? Which floor of Malio? I only know they provide normal service girl, standard rate like 1 M for local and 2 M for Vietnamese etc. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Tedne88;2787547]Hi, Thanks for the information. Really miss this old running down place, but I have very very good nuru experience here especially with 2 ladies, even thought they try to ripped me off by giving additional 500 K to each of them. Anyway, Nuru at Malio? Care to give me more information? Which floor of Malio? I only know they provide normal service girl, standard rate like 1 M for local and 2 M for Vietnamese etc. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I yet to see a good soapy / nuru kind of massage in Jakarta. I tried every single search result and forums but no luck (post 2018 BTW).

Closest you can get it is in bali flame. The quality had been degraded to a degree I wouldn't go again. But during 2019 it was lovely.

1001 Spa is closed after covid. Any alternative to 1001 Spa? Do the Kelapa Gading spas can be considered so, with an entry fee, big pool, nice girls, drinks and food?

I am planning my next trip. I had some good times in both Malang and Medan social networking. Jakarta I usually rely on classic / travel. Bali is usually a hit or miss.

Does anyone know any direct flights from Malang to Bali? I had a bad experience last time with a flight rescheduled. I had to change my plans to the next day's flight from Surabaya.

[QUOTE=CodeName47;2789371]
Does anyone know any direct flights from Malang to Bali? I had a bad experience last time with a flight rescheduled. I had to change my plans to the next day's flight from Surabaya.[/QUOTE]
I am not aware of any direct flight from Malang to Bali. I think because it does not make any economic sense. You will still need to travel to Abdul Rahman Saleh Airport in Malang. Let alone how many people will board at Abdul Rahman Saleh Aiport to Bali ? It makes more sense to pool it in Surabaya or flight from Malang to Jakarta, due to the distance that is most of airlines are doing.
There are quite a few travel agent organising seven sits van direct to Juanda Airport daily. It is a profitable route for them.
Alternatively Train (not direct), you will need to change at Sidoarjo. Or train to Surabaya + taxi to airport.