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Ok, when does the convo go back to banging bug butt freaks?

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1437975]Ok, when does the convo go back to banging bug butt freaks?[/QUOTE]Whenever you tell us what a "bug butt freak" is.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1437520]What do we care? We are vacationers and want to be seen as the nice guy while we are there.

That is their parents' job. They didn't starve before I arrived on the scene and I doubt they will go hungry after I leave. I do take money to the orphanage a couple of times a year (to me that is different than a parent sending their kid out to get money or begging while carrying their kids) , but I don't do handouts on the street.[/QUOTE]I am from India and Buddy, you are right. Please don't give them handouts and make them beggers. Today, at least in India, there are ample opportunities for employment and most of the time beggers are by choice, not compulsion. So, Please refrain from doling out freebies, you are doing more harm than good to them. At least Indians don't need it, other countries may though. If you really do want to help, there are many organisations working in every city in India, spend a few hours with them and then, repeat only when you are satisfied with there credentials and performance give them charity. You don't owe anything to us. So, if you are not satisfied that your money is going in the right hands, don't donate. Like I am donating to 2 orgainsations. 1 is teaching, feeding, clothing and sheltering orphans and slum children, another is teaching, feeding, clothing and sheltering blind, deaf and dumb children. I am not giving alms, or free blankets or free food etc. You feel good that an orphan actually becomes doctor, engineer or even a simple clerk.

Sorry Jackson, not the right forum to discuss, but, couldn't stop myself seeing this happening day in and day out here.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1437935]Not having money to buy food or medicine, Having lousy or no jobs. Raising children by yourself. By any measurement these people are poor. You were a pimp so having compassion for other people is beyond you. Fucking ugly men for money or working 50 hours week for $25. Their lives suck.[/QUOTE]I've been here almost 5 years, and like you, seen how life is first hand. The latest is the chica and her daughter who live below me. She is a barmaid at one of the hangouts on Pedro Clisante. First the nights were reduced, because this is the off season, next is her kid asking me for food, how can I say NO. People just don't get it, there are few jobs for women here and the pay is really bad. Every chica has a different story, and a different act, but the motivated by the same problem, poverty.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1437975]Ok, when does the convo go back to banging bug butt freaks?[/QUOTE]If you want to start that discussion or post some pics, you don't need permission.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1437914]He said he got old being kool, not by being a fool. But you say the girls have tough lives. Compared to what? If it is the way they grew up and the way they are used to then I don't see anything tough about it. If you are comparing it to your life then therein lies the problem. Because next to Bill Gates or Puff Daddy I'm sure many of us have tough lives as well.[/QUOTE]-Fruits are plentiful all over the island-their fucin' free-you can knock a coconut down and have the milk from it anytime you want-not havin' food-one guy says.kids mothers hours are cut.so fucin' what it happens every year its a tourist town-idiots will always buy into sob stories that just the way they are-live smart.be smart and you'll do fine.trying to change someone who gets taken isn't going to happen-its amazing how only the girls who work in front of or behind the bars on clisante and the little hustler punk kids are the only ones always complaining about how tough their lives are. Stupid fucin' gringos

[QUOTE=Don Antonio; 1437866]Case #2.

Tourist monger sessions with a different Dominican puta. Puta claims loudly, on the sidewalk that guy wanted sex w / o condom and that he physically attacked her. Meanwhile dude sits in adjacent restaurant with a beer rather than increasing the distance between him and her. Politur shows up and arrests him on the spot on a Sunday afternoon (!). He is now spending the night in the Sosua jail until the fiscal opens on Monday morning and reviews the case.[/QUOTE]I would wager that case number 2 was BS. They probably got to the room and she asked him for a condom for the BJ. He balked and told her to get to sucking, she stood her ground and he said "Get dressed! You are out of here!" Once she got back to PC and she saw him talking to another chica, she decided to change the story from him demanding a BJ without protection, to him demanding sex without a condom. He probably saw her acting a fool out on the street and knowing that wasn't the case, he calmly drank his beer and watched "the show". Never imagining that the police would come and take him to jail on the word of a lying prostitute.

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1438055]I've been here almost 5 years, and like you, seen how life is first hand. The latest is the chica and her daughter who live below me. She is a barmaid at one of the hangouts on Pedro Clisante. First the nights were reduced, because this is the off season, next is her kid asking me for food, how can I say NO. People just don't get it, there are few jobs for women here and the pay is really bad. Every chica has a different story, and a different act, but the motivated by the same problem, poverty.[/QUOTE]-Hope you feel better-they love guys who buy into the bullshit-So if you don't give the little girl food she's going to starve right? Yea right-you know how cheap food is in Charimico?

Did you every go to the countryside where every type of fruit is free to eat?

Like I said they love gringo's who got no clue.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1438135]I would wager that case number 2 was BS. They probably got to the room and she asked him for a condom for the BJ. He balked and told her to get to sucking, she stood her ground and he said "Get dressed! You are out of here!" Once she got back to PC and she saw him talking to another chica, she decided to change the story from him demanding a BJ without protection, to him demanding sex without a condom. He probably saw her acting a fool out on the street and knowing that wasn't the case, he calmly drank his beer and watched "the show". Never imagining that the police would come and take him to jail on the word of a lying prostitute.[/QUOTE]-First of all every and I mean every sad Gringo story about getting arrested because of some problem with a chica has the part in it about the guy being DRUNK-second I don't think it "can happen to anybody"-Its happens to people who let it happen because they are stupid. So you think a policia is going to arrest a guy who is totally sober and is accused of this bullshit without any proof whatsoever.I've been going for 5 years now sometimes 7 times a year-never seen one guy arrested. Only hear stories now and then-And like I said its always the same.Drunks-good they fucin' deserve it.

[QUOTE=Zedman99; 1438137]-Hope you feel better-they love guys who buy into the bullshit-So if you don't give the little girl food she's going to starve right? Yea right-you know how cheap food is in Charimico?

Did you every go to the countryside where every type of fruit is free to eat?

Like I said they love gringo's who got no clue.[/QUOTE]Can you explain how food is cheaper in Los Charamicos, possibly giving some examples of prices of common commodity items compared to, say, the Playero supermarket? I don't spend much time there, but my impression is that colmado prices are at least 25% higher than supermarket prices on many basic items like milk, cheese, eggs, or juice, though it is true that one can buy fresh fruits cheaper from street vendors or direct off the truck. However when it comes to things like meat, milk, eggs, bread, rice, etc, the prices may not be quite as cheap as you think when you do the math. Part of the reason for this is that the colmado may sell small quantities, like 3 eggs, but at a high mark-up. And then a 6 gallon tank of propane for cooking is about 600 pesos plus transportation and delivery costs.

Yes, there is a lot of produce in the countryside, but it all belongs to someone (the farmer) and is not free for everyone to pick. Possibly you are confusing the DR with the Garden of Eden. Again, can you give some actual examples from experience of what you are talking about. I think there would be problems if the inhabitants of Los Charamicos started marauding into local agricultural areas in search of U-Pick food, though I sometimes suspect that some of the vendors who carry fruit on their heads in Sosua may have raided someone's back yard mango or avocado trees.

I have had a neighbor's child (age 6) raiding my fridge for yoghurt, which I had to put a stop to. Then he asked if he could have some water with sugar in it, apparently something he was used to getting at home. Ostensibly the family is not poor and has more than one source of income, but evidently food insecurity is never far away and you can't be sure that children are getting adequate nutrition as opposed to junk like sugar water.

Even the better off are not always THAT well off. For example my dentista has just one child of 5, but could not afford to send her for a summer course of swimming lessons in Puerto Plata although she has a full time job for government as a prison dentist plus a private practice in the afternoons in a dental office shared with her sister. (Of course she does not give her child sugar water either.)

As I have said before, with children it is not always simply a question of whether they will actually starve do death, but whether they will get adequate nutrition to grow up healthy and become productive adults.

However nothing I am saying here has any particular bearing on whether a particular chica was lying to a particular visitor on a particular occasion. I know that chicas may tell lies to extract money, but I think it is important for mongers to understand that the chicas they are dealing with are not on the same economic footing as themselves or they people they know back home, and that food insecurity is a real concern for many.

[QUOTE=Zedman99;1438132]-Fruits are plentiful all over the island-their fucin' free-you can knock a coconut down and have the milk from it anytime you want.[/QUOTE]I checked on this with my local sources and they emphatically said this is not so. Yes, you might find a fallen coconut if you are lucky, but it would be very difficult for a chica to knock down a coconut, and you would probably still need a machete to open it. Coconut milk is not really milk and is not suitable for infants. You certainly can't just go and get any coconut.

I would be interested to know what is your source for this kind of information and why you think your sources are credible.

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[QUOTE=Frannie;1437739]I recently paid a delightful young chica 1000 pesos for an encounter and when it came to time to pay up, she asked if I wouldn't give her an additional propina. I fished out a 200 peso bill and she was delighted. Since I plan to see her again I am sure that she will be pulling out all the stops to gratify my kinks, so I think the 200 pesos was well spent.[/QUOTE]This part is interesting. Seems this delightful young chica is pretty smart. Her delightful demeanor triggered a response from you to agree to paying more money. And this is after she had already gratified your kinks for only 1000 pesos. When you look at it closer. You connected you seeing her again with the 200 pesos and speculated how that 200 pesos will somehow impact on her performance with you for your next encounter. So here's a question, if you didn't plan to see her again, you wouldn't have given her the 200 pesos?

The thing I'm particularly focused on is the potential error in judgement many of us mongers make in assuming or adopting the belief that giving more money ensures you the chica will pull out all stops to gratify your kinks for your next encounter. How can a monger predict or why would he assume that a particular chica is thinking the same thing he's thinking about the impact paying extra is going to have on a chicas future performance with him? Besides, what can she do different for that 200 pesos that she didn't do with you for the 1000 pesos? It's not like ya'll talked it over of what she was going to do next time?

The way I see it. The monger is setting himself up. The next encounter won't be less than 1200 pesos, with the likely hood of having to honor her next request for a propina. Then you will have to come up with another reason to justify why you are paying more when all you are going to get is the same performance. What it boils down to, you are not really buying anything for the extra money. Mongers demonstrate in their behavior and beliefs, concern or fear that if they don't give in to a request, something negative is going to result. The very least is spoiling the moment, changing a chicas mood from delight to disappoinment. Or putting you on a low priority list in the rotation of men she's fucking. Once you demonstrate to a chica forking over extra money is connected to your desire to see her again. You are potentially setting yourself up.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1437912]When you monger for a while you meet all kinds of girls. From hard core to church girls. Sending money or being relied on to send money is an error. What I am saying is that these girls have tough lives. The ones that have money are not associating with guys like us. I have made friends with some DR girls. Pros and non pros. I treat them the same. I do not look down on any of them. Some cheat and scam I think the majority are just trying to survive. If one of these girls has a small problem I am not oppose to helping. It is always a judgement call.[/QUOTE]I know it's hard for some of you to answer a question with a direct answer. But I asked you if you send money to chicas, or have sent money to chicas? I didn't ask you if it was an error to send money. If you would just stick to what I'm addressing, we just might look like we are having the same discussion. But you keep talking in circles and bringing up shit that I'm not disputing. All I'm addressing is the instances where a chica is lying and trying to scam a monger out of his money. But since you deflected from answering, let me answer for you. Yes you have sent money to chicas before. Chances are, enough of those RFM's resulted in you being lied to about why they needed money.

And thats why we should address your comment. If you think it is an error to send money or to be relied on for money, an explanation is in order. Especially since you made it quite clear earlier how deprived these chicas are, and have needs everyday, and don't know when they may get their next meal and everything else you said. Can you explain why it would be an error to send money, knowing these chicas have it as tough as YOU described?

Oh yeah, you said you if one of these girls has a small problem, you arent opposed to helping. I like the way you put that. You arent opposed to helping. But you didn't say you would help. Moreover, you are not opposed of helping with a little problem, but I guess that means you ARE opposed to helping with a big problem. The way you describe their everyday lives. Their whole life is full of big problems. Which means essentially you arent doing very much. Except making a chicas time with you more pleasurable. I want to know how much help are you offering without being compensated in trade?

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1438156]I checked on this with my local sources and they emphatically said this is not so. Yes, you might find a fallen coconut if you are lucky, but it would be very difficult for a chica to knock down a coconut, and you would probably still need a machete to open it. Coconut milk is not really milk and is not suitable for infants. You certainly can't just go and get any coconut.

I would be interested to know what is your source for this kind of information and why you think your sources are credible.[/QUOTE] Who said anything about infants --Ahh breast feeding is a unique alternative don't you think?? Who are your sources-your friends?? And I guess the coconuts I see up in the trees are my imagination --A chica can't knock down a coconut ??? What the hell is that about- And yes you can certainly get ANY coconut and get the milk from it and you don't need a Machete-Your clueless--Your out to lunch---By the way concerning coconuts---i drink the milk all the time --without a MACHETE- ----5 pesos for a banana WOW BIG BUCS THERE Go sell your "POOR PEOPLE" crap somewhere else