Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this post...

A few months ago I met a Filipina in Shanghai. We have an awesome relationship together. I am very impressed with her.

I have asked her to retire from the 'entertainment' industry and never be a WG again. We have had a very difficult heart to heart talk about this, it was really an ultimatum - if you ever go to Shanghai - I will never see/speak/think about you again. It had to be black and white - no gray.

I think in general PI girls would rather not work at home and I believe her when she tells me that she would not consider to 'work' at home.

In return I will take care of ALL your expenses and give her a chance to make a better future for herself and potentially for the two of us, if we are lucky together.

She is working to take care of her son and 3 nieces. To give them an education so that they will never have to work this way. I respect her for doing this and I love her. She has a home in Manila, where basically the whole family lives, perhaps 14 people in 90m2.

She has listed her expenses as:
Water ~2500pesos/month (every day 170pesos)
Mineral? every 3 days 60 total 600pesos a month (is this gas)
School fees/allowance: 3000pesos per week (all 4 students?)
Electricity: 2000pesos/month
Landline Telephone/DSL Internet: 2000pesos/month
Food (whole house) between 6000 and 8000 per month

My question to the forum is are these reasonable expenses? I will have no problem to cover her costs, she is wonderful but I want to be sure that these are reasonable. They SEEM reasonable and fair to me.

Do you think that it is possible for her to really retire from this work? Or is the adage "you can take the girl from the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl" necessarily true? If we are together, we plan to stay in the PI so the same adage (substitute PI for Bar) is not applicable at this time.

Thanks for you help. You can write me a PM or reply to the forum.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a lot to me.
A graduate from university gets around 10kPeso a month, a managing director 50k.
.... so many of those have kids and send them for education.
Maybe she is a nice girl, but not only maybe she tries to milk you for your money.
.... sorry to tell you.

Happened to me before as well, but I got cured.
Rgds,
Mike

I have to agree with Michi,

She has given you a salesperson estimate. Did YOU ask her for the breakdown on costs, or is that something she did on her own? What she makes in Singapore is a King's ransom by Phil. standards, there is not reason you have to equal that.

If you're still willing to move ahead, make up some bullshit about your budget and offer her something less. Maybe it's too late for that.

I can offer a sample of one, so it is meaningless.... Met a MNL bargirl. WOW, super GFE experience. I had to leave in three days and she stayed for three days. No barfine! I have to tell you, I'd swallowed the hook, line and sinker. Six months later we meet when she is back in her hometown, a large city in Visayans, she has a fiance. She complains about how little he sends her. We fuck. I discreetly give her 2000 pesos (one hour commute costs included), no complaints. She never asked for a penny the whole time I've known her -- bless her heart.

Six months after that, I'm in Visayans and send her a courtesy call. She's in Manila, "with an Indian friend", but has a flight back home the next day. We fuck. We go to abc disco to drink, dance and supposedly to meet her friend and her Korean "customer". Friend turns up with three Filipino "cousins" (two girls and a bakla), but no Korean friends. Ooops, now the entire party is on my wallet. Surprise! Friend is obviously a *****e, and gives me bad vibes immediately. I whisper to my date that I'll buy the first round, no more.

Ex, go, go girl Damn she could dance. Later at my hotel, we fk. I'm a small tit man, but her's are large and pendoulous and just so sweet to hold. I'm smitten, once again. Next morning, she declines an invitation to visit an island resort. Says her mother would be angry. I can't help but think it's my lack of generosity. She doesn't seem like the same girl I met a year earlier. Well, I gues she isn't ....she's someone's fiance.

Last I heard, she's unhappily married in a 1st world country.

I hope there is a happy ending to this story. But, I doubt it.

The original poster has a great story and I hope it works out for him. She sounds like someone you could take a chance on.

X

sidenotes:
Good sex for money support is very appealing to a man. My ex got the money part right, but was pretty stingy with her holes. She wasn't bg, btw.

But a bar girl is trading away a life of big money, multiple sex partners, freedom, fun, high falutin hotels and resorts, etc.

[QUOTE=Michi]Sounds like a lot to me.
A graduate from university gets around 10kPeso a month, a managing director 50k.
.... so many of those have kids and send them for education.
Maybe she is a nice girl, but not only maybe she tries to milk you for your money.
.... sorry to tell you.

Happened to me before as well, but I got cured.
Rgds,
Mike[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

Sorry haven't been reading the board for a while. The question of will a girl leave the bar if if she is offered support? This is a question I have always wondered about, and from what I have seen and heard about it is a hit and miss as to will she or won't she.

Too many stories out there, some girls will go back to the province and get fat on the money they get. Others with go back to high school or even study at college. Then there are the ones that stay in the bars and lie to their boyfriends about what they are really doing.

In the last three months I have started chating online to a bargirl, since we started chatting she has told me she was single and she has stopped working in the bar and is looking for a real job. Thanks to my friend who introduced us in the first place and also happens to be jealous of the fact that I am chatting to this girl. I have now found out that this girl did have a boyfriend and was still working in the bar. Last time I spoke to this girl she was going back to her province for a while. Turns out her boyfriend was coming back to town and did not know she was still working.

I myself had a Thai bargirl as a girlfriend, lasted about 5 months I think. In that time she stopped working without me telling her to, started taking english classes and a basic computer course. I did send her small amounts of money in that time. But she dumped me after I refused to give her $10,000 to open a shop.

I still talk to her and she says she has her shop but lets her sister run it while she is part timing in the bar( still says she hates working in the bar, but the way I see it she had her chance to leave but she has choosen to stay).

One thing I don't get is now she still believes we are together, we just had a fight. I don't see it that way but I haven't actually told her we are not together. Best thing is she no longer asks or receives any money from me.

Guys why do you go to Asia to date and have relationships with hookers? Would you date a hooker in your own country?

[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Guys why do you go to Asia to date and have relationships with hookers? Would you date a hooker in your own country?[/QUOTE]

Nope, the great, make that GREAT thing about the PI is average 40 year old white guys can score with hot college girls. I don't see the point of dating a hooker in the PI, but they do a good job of filling in on those few nights when you don't have a normal girl.

The first question is rather complicated. As for the second question, "Hell yes I would."

I'm just hopn for some friction on my piston

X

[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Guys why do you go to Asia to date and have relationships with hookers? Would you date a hooker in your own country?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Guys why do you go to Asia to date and have relationships with hookers? Would you date a hooker in your own country?[/QUOTE]Can you really ever have a real relationship with a BG, who is still working in the bar? I have 5 or 6 BG's who consider me their BF. What that means to me and their friends is, if I come into their bar I belong to them. I have meet some FL/BG's who were hookers, but I have also met more ladies in bars that really are only trying to support someone...i.e. kids, parents, or find a husband.

Would I date a hooker in my own country? Maybe, if she is a LBFM and I didn't have to pay anymore:D

Robb

[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Guys why do you go to Asia to date and have relationships with hookers? Would you date a hooker in your own country?[/QUOTE]

I dated a "High Class" call girl for a couple of years. I didnt care, I got it for free and helped spend the proceeds. Besides what has sex got to do with love anyway?

I agree with AOB. About 15 yrs ago I dated a stipper from Deja Vu strip club. Beautiful girl, did not meet her in the club, and we dated for 1 1/2 yrs. I was a bit nieve back then, but figured out you could get a BJ in those clubs for $50 USD. You could also have sex in the VIP room. Bothered me for a while, but she was so hot in bed, bi-sexual, and had loads of money all the time. I loved being with her, and she always brought home other girls for us to play with.

The end came when I made the big decision for her to move with me. Her response was, "I wonder if they have any clubs in ______? " Well, that sealed it for me. "Are you always going to be a *****? " I broke it off with her after that.

Saw her about 5 yrs ago when back in USA. She had quit the business and went to Med school. Still hot, but plus about 15 lbs. She lived with a girl, but not sure of the relationship. She gave me a BJ on the back porch of my grandparents house while her friend waited in the car.

Not sure of the point here, I guess it is sometimes they do change? You decide for yourself.

One thing I love about bargirls is talking dirty to them, they love to talk dirty too. I guess that is their way of baiting the hook and then reeling you in. I talk dirty to a College girl in Manila online, but she is always telling me to SHUT UP, and why do you always talk like that. College girl is nice but bargirls are more fun.

With all do respect gents, any guy whose sending a girl money when he's over here and she over there. Should go back and read some of the sage advice about filipina's either that or have his d*ck cut off, because apparently you are thinking with the wrong head. If I hear another guy says "oh I sent her money small amount," I'm going to scream. Whatever, the small amount to you is, please send it to me, I will make better use of it than you will. You my dear friend, is where they got the term a " sucker is born every minute" and you are giving the rest of us a hard time with filipina, because they think they can scam us because some stupid guy sent them money before.

I've never really understood these guys who send money to girls, and are seemingly convinced that the girls are at home pining away in loneliness for the return of their true loves. Are they on some sort of medication that renders them delusional? Are they mentally ill? What drug or state of mind is it that allows presumably otherwise normal people to fixate on women they may have known for a few days in person at best, or at worst have met only through the Internet? Fixate to the point that they lose the ability of rational thought.

If I were a more compassionate sort, I guess I'd feel some twinge of guilt at boinking their "fiancees." As it is, I just shake my head and wonder how "mature" men can be so ridiculously naive.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I've never really understood these guys who send money to girls, and are seemingly convinced that the girls are at home pining away in loneliness for the return of their true loves. Are they on some sort of medication that renders them delusional? Are they mentally ill? What drug or state of mind is it that allows presumably otherwise normal people to fixate on women they may have known for a few days in person at best, or at worst have met only through the Internet? Fixate to the point that they lose the ability of rational thought.

If I were a more compassionate sort, I guess I'd feel some twinge of guilt at boinking their "fiancees." As it is, I just shake my head and wonder how "mature" men can be so ridiculously naive.[/QUOTE]

Ok. What about the western businessman who leaves his wife at home in the west while traveling all over the world? I agree with the not trusting the lady you just met. But I also agree you shouldn't trust a soul not even your damn mother 100 percent. Every situation is different.

Yup, on my last trip, I had a girl do a runner on me. :( Bummer, I thought.

She left at about 1am. :(

Then at about 2.30am, she comes back :) and spends the rest of the night and the morning with me after explaining that she had to 'check in' with this guy who was paying her not to work in the bar.

Must have been someone stateside on his lunch break.

LOLOLOLOL!!!

My mom is the most pliable women i ever met, and my lame ass, currently celibate, scared to fly airplanes, never-married brother is milking it for all he can get. Doing well - i might add.

D'etat, you never fail to amaze me with your unique, and brutely honest description of your/our reality.

[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Ok. What about the western businessman who leaves his wife at home in the west while traveling all over the world? I agree with the not trusting the lady you just met. But I also agree you shouldn't trust a soul not even your damn mother 100 percent. Every situation is different.[/QUOTE]