Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=SexInStl;2168710]Should you tip your massage girl or is the price all-inclusive at most places?[/QUOTE]Hello? Anybody?

[QUOTE=SexInStl;2168951]Hello? Anybody?[/QUOTE]I never tip at oilies. Been a regular at them for over 10 years. Some guys tip. Up to you. I don't think it brings you any better service.

I never tip and it's never been an issue. I do notice if you look on the Addict website there's a page where they recruit girls and it seems to suggest they'll get big tips. I don't know how many guys actually do though. If they want extra money they should just increase the price in my opinion.

[QUOTE=SexInStl;2168951]Hello? Anybody?[/QUOTE]Instead of getting impatient you could have just searched for the many discussions there have been about tipping in this thread.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2168958]I never tip at oilies. Been a regular at them for over 10 years. Some guys tip. Up to you. I don't think it brings you any better service.[/QUOTE]I always tip. Sometimes because of the quality of the service but most often because of the amount the girls actually get paid and the fact that the tip amount has no impact on my lifestyle. I even gave a woman cutting hair in the middle of the street at 11:30 PM some money because I admired her entrepreneurial spirit and work ethic. Candidly would rather put my money in the hands of someone who deserves it than some administrator for United Way.

[QUOTE=SexInStl;2168710]Should you tip your massage girl or is the price all-inclusive at most places?[/QUOTE]There is no rule of thumb, when it comes to tipping, as you may have gathered from the varying viewpoints expressed in the preceding posts on the subject and, most certainly, you are not obligated to tip i.e. the rate is all inclusive. I often find myself in a generous mood when, at the end of it all, I have that warm feeling of contentment, which one can get in different ways. IMHO, promise of a decent tip can lead to some additional services being offered that, otherwise, may not be on the table. I still remember, a couple of years back, when I ventured into Caesars, the girl was quite resistant to DFK, which, from what I've been able to gather, most of the high-end soapy girls are. After some back and forth on Google translate, promised her a decent tip and she agreed, although, somewhat reluctantly. But, when it came to the actual delivery, she was really into it or, at least, that is what it felt like. She even made up for the lost time and continued the session for quite some time even after the call. On that occasion, tipped her 10%. So, I tend to take things on a case to case basis and, accordingly, have tipped, ranging from 0 to 20%, over the years.

Thank you for all the responses. I really do appreciate it.

I tried to do a search on the word tip, but apparently it's too short of a word for the search engine.

Tip? Yes! Why? Makes her feel appreciated and happier about what she does for a living. No if she was clearly not into it and made no effort. How much? 200 up depending on level of effort and to a lesser extent skill set.

Starting to like the idea of massage better, as you seem to get more for your money. So Wednesday night headed over a bit later than I would've liked about 8 pm.

Can Cam had 3 girls and he showed them to me by Facetime on his phone! Uh, no. But as I was going out the door he led me to Dream Heaven next door and said 'mamasan good, lots of girls'. The mamasan was kinda hot for being a little bit older (I'm not even going to guess, these Southeast Asians confound me on age) and she trotted out 9 ladies for me to see. It was hard to chose because really none of them were what I was looking for, but being a big pansy I sat there and chose what I thought was the hottest of the bunch.

Her name was Janie, though I don't see her on the website, and she had that natural 1950's kind of body, short rib cage that slants in for a small waist and then widening out a bit for womanly hips, a nice full strong rump, a plump 'see' cup, and a really pretty face. She might be confused for being half spanish, but I didn't ask. She was a dud though.

No DFK (not sure what the mouthwash was for), no fingering, no DATY, she wanted a CBJ, but I insisted it was BBBJ and she went along with it. She stalled in every way possible to get to the sex part. We showered, then got in the hot tub, then showered. Then SHE showered, then she asked if I wanted to clean her and she showered me again. Ugh. Her BJ was ok at first, but then I was ready to move on to the Fkkng by this point. Her vagina was small and tight somehow though and I enjoyed it, missionary, her on top and then she balked at standing doggie. "Let me finish you with Blow Job", she said. Fine, get it over with.

And lo and behold, she was suddenly GOOD at the BBBJ, and I came all over her breasts. Then we showered again! Then came the massage, which was ok. She was so shy at times and timid (She must have said "I'm sorry" 10 times), I asked her how long she'd been working there. "7 years", she said. I was astounded. I asked how old she was. 36! 10 years older than I would have guessed. The massage was ok, though she used a towel to cover my ass. Good Grief. Afterwards she said, do you want to take a shower? I said, "I'm probably cleaner than I've ever been in my entire life. ".

Ah well. Better to make a mistake with 2300 Baht than 4000 Baht.

[QUOTE=SexInStl;2169203]Thank you for all the responses. I really do appreciate it.

I tried to do a search on the word tip, but apparently it's too short of a word for the search engine.[/QUOTE]If you type in 'tipping' you get 118 pages of results just for this thread.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2169049]I always tip. Sometimes because of the quality of the service but most often because of the amount the girls actually get paid and the fact that the tip amount has no impact on my lifestyle. I even gave a woman cutting hair in the middle of the street at 11:30 PM some money because I admired her entrepreneurial spirit and work ethic. Candidly would rather put my money in the hands of someone who deserves it than some administrator for United Way.[/QUOTE]Actually I have found as earnings for P4 P workers in SE Asia has increased; service has decreased.

[QUOTE=SexInStl;2169242]Starting to like the idea of massage better, as you seem to get more for your money. So Wednesday night headed over a bit later than I would've liked about 8 pm.

Can Cam had 3 girls and he showed them to me by Facetime on his phone! Uh, no. But as I was going out the door he led me to Dream Heaven next door and said 'mamasan good, lots of girls'. The mamasan was kinda hot for being a little bit older (I'm not even going to guess, these Southeast Asians confound me on age) and she trotted out 9 ladies for me to see. It was hard to chose because really none of them were what I was looking for, but being a big pansy I sat there and chose what I thought was the hottest of the bunch.

Her name was Janie, though I don't see her on the website, and she had that natural 1950's kind of body, short rib cage that slants in for a small waist and then widening out a bit for womanly hips, a nice full strong rump, a plump 'see' cup, and a really pretty face. She might be confused for being half spanish, but I didn't ask. She was a dud though.

No DFK (not sure what the mouthwash was for), no fingering, no DATY, she wanted a CBJ, but I insisted it was BBBJ and she went along with it. She stalled in every way possible to get to the sex part. We showered, then got in the hot tub, then showered. Then SHE showered, then she asked if I wanted to clean her and she showered me again. Ugh. Her BJ was ok at first, but then I was ready to move on to the Fkkng by this point. Her vagina was small and tight somehow though and I enjoyed it, missionary, her on top and then she balked at standing doggie. "Let me finish you with Blow Job", she said. Fine, get it over with.

And lo and behold, she was suddenly GOOD at the BBBJ, and I came all over her breasts. Then we showered again! Then came the massage, which was ok. She was so shy at times and timid (She must have said "I'm sorry" 10 times), I asked her how long she'd been working there. "7 years", she said. I was astounded. I asked how old she was. 36! 10 years older than I would have guessed. The massage was ok, though she used a towel to cover my ass. Good Grief. Afterwards she said, do you want to take a shower? I said, "I'm probably cleaner than I've ever been in my entire life. ".

Ah well. Better to make a mistake with 2300 Baht than 4000 Baht.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is amazing what poor performances gals can get away with these days. Gals are very good at manipulating and that is exactly what she did to you. I would have called for the mamasan or at least expressed my dissatisfaction when walking out. It's just a shame we have to deal with this crap. It really ruins the entire experience. And it just seems to get worse by the year.

Boss Massage is a good bet, because they have cards that explicitly tell what each gal does and does not do. The gals sees you looking at the card and she then knows you know. So there is really no room for surprise. If she balks, you can call her on it. Jeez, I miss the old days of Tulip, Mango, and SW, where the motto was "all girls do everything" and you just did not have to worry about this BS.

[QUOTE=Mjen1970;2168297]I was looking at the Snow White website dreaming of my trip next month.

I had a little typo and this site popped up -.

[URL]http://cn.snowwhitesoi26.com/ladies.html[/URL]

Forgive my ignorance in that I missed the real heydays of Tulip and Snow but in my experience there are pictures of a couple of legends still up there (April and Momay).[/QUOTE]Wow! Memories. Yes, the gals were better looking back then, younger (think all on that site were under 25), all but two baby free and June had no stretch marks, and every single one a performer. At that same time Mango had an outstanding lineup and the same applied, most no kids, under 25, decent looking, and performers. And look what we are being offered these days! It's really gone downhill. Difficult for me to get exited about 30 plus women with mommy bodies who deliver so-so service. Just not good enough.

Drove down 24/1 on my motorbike this evening. What a horror show. Even BB had a bunch of darker skinned fatties. Gals sitting outside Boss left a lot to be desired as well. Looks like I am going to continue saving lots of money.

[QUOTE=TravelLucid;2168906]I get the environment issue about the use of resources, and esp. Fresh potable water. (Look at Cape Town, South Africa, where I lived when younger. Facing what could be a disaster.).

However, I cannot help being bemused by the thought of too much fucking causing.

Is this really serious? [/QUOTE]There is no irony or joke here. Bangkok has been sinking at a rate of 1 cm per year I believe I read. It is on low lying land and there are flood problems sone years as most guys know.

Scientists believe that use of deep artesian water is a major cause of the city sinking.

The Soapy massage places are a major culprits. They use a large amount of water, and many decided to use artesian water instead of pay high water bills for regular city water supply. Use of the underground water pumped up is iegal in Bangkok but not in rural Thailand.

Drinking water is quite irrelevant since that is normally treated water. No one drinks bath water naturally. So 'potable' does not come into it.

So yes several Soapy Massage joints have been closed, including the famous Annies. It was using illegal Artesian water as well. This is now confirmed. Wood and Chrome bars were not affected by the water sinking Bangkok scandal. So some of the girls will be found there. Same management, etc.

Sorry about this, not time to RTFF just yet. Same as my post on the Tulip section seeking any info from the regulars on a girl I had a session with mid last year. This was early evening at CanCam the girl was a tiny little thing sitting outside with a smile as soon as I approached. I checked the lineup first and almost went with a tall leggy girl which is more my preference but in the end her looks and smile won me over. Great service, she gave me a nice long BJ after the shower. I came in her mouth, I let her spit it out but asked if she could keep sucking for a bit which she did. A quick rest and as soon as I got hard again fucked her quite hard in may different positions, pulled out, uncapped and came on her stomach. She asked me if I wanted her to keep blowing me like earlier, I considered it but thought she had done enough and declined. Such a trooper. She had a weird name like Plate or Basket or something like that. I thought I would remember but I forgot.

My subsequent return was not so good. I had to reschedule and went during the day instead of in the evening like I wanted. Two daytime girls, skinny, not really my type but no others around so I pulled the trigger on both. They were enthusiastic but had rules: one pop only, only one would do the BJ and the other would kiss, clock watchers too, the both of them and identically flat chested, I mean really flat, I told them it was ok if they wanted to keep their tops on. The two were joking around the whole time, I did enjoy their positive demeanor and I did get them both to take turns blowing me. I think they were new, I could have talked them into doing more but I was so disappointed in not being able to have a session with the other girl, I didn't bother and just let time run out after I finished.