FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2115364]I'm not certain who your Queen is but Turkish guy's like to get done fast. She probably likes them because she's earning 50 euros for 10 minutes work rather than 30. 'Turkish' clubs (clubs with mostly Turkish clientele) sometimes have a 15 minute 30 euro option.[/QUOTE]Yes, now at Aca Velbert, only 30 € for 20 mn for fast Turkish. At Atlanta, they asked everything for 30, when some Germans ask everything for 50 at Sharks, so some girls prefer Asians or moving to Globe for 140 minimum.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2115098]In Mexico (when I was poor) we used to go to Boystown in NL and Ciudad Acuna all the time, we did have our private group and lists of our favorites (I ran the group) and we intentionally wouldn't review the good ones to keep to ourselves so that the tourists who went and newbies would chase the losers names we did toss out there as well as the ghosts we created but each guy in the group had to contribute a name to get in and be approved. She also had to be test driven by one of the group leaders so no clown could just give us any random hooker. ' Quality control'.[/QUOTE]Great revelation. Sounds like a striking example of the so-called False Self!

"One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said, "My son, the battle is between two "wolves" inside us all. One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, worry, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, humor, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.

The grandson thought for a minute and then asked his grandfather: "Which wolf wins?

The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed. ".

Taken from: [URL]http://sfhelp.org/gwc/false_self.htm[/URL].

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2115098]In Mexico (when I was poor) we used to go to Boystown in NL and Ciudad Acuna all the time, we did have our private group and lists of our favorites (I ran the group) and we intentionally wouldn't review the good ones to keep to ourselves so that the tourists who went and newbies would chase the losers names we did toss out there as well as the ghosts we created but each guy in the group had to contribute a name to get in and be approved. She also had to be test driven by one of the group leaders so no clown could just give us any random hooker. ' Quality control'. However, new girls came and went all the time and it was much fun hunting them down or going in to the clubs and selecting for yourself. I really do not understand why these guys fly half way around the world with a list of names printed out that other guys have fucked when YMMV is a worldwide thing and one man's sugar is another man's bitter pill.

I did see Mandy the other day and she is very cute will give her that but she was also busy and mongering is not about waiting in line like a puppy dog and I found another I enjoyed very much during my hunting. Hunting is the great part of this game. Too many tutes in this world to hop on a plane in say Tokyo to fuck only 3 girls in Germany. Jokers! I mean really, there are hundreds and hundreds of girls in Germany in the clubs to chase down and sniff out a good one and guys will limit themselves to as I think Bituman said a few names provided by ISG guys.[/QUOTE]Nothing new there, I know some people here on ISG is also 'hiding' their favourites. And the Germans does it extensively. Sometimes I even get a feeling they bullshit some of the best girls to keep others away.

And just the fact that I have not heard a single mention of the 2 sharks girls who gave me close to a 10/10 session last visit here on ISG or on any forum goes to show that probably over half the field is bullshitting on names and performances on these forums.

Going to a club with backup girls is always important. But some feel they can get owned by a particular girl in a club. Then the key is probably like my friend used to do in Thailand and just hop bar / club. Next door you will feel more free and can start hunting again. It is easy to think you love someone by first sight, but really the key factor is if sex is equally good on session #10. Most of the time it isn't. And if it isn't, its better just to let go and move on.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2115203]As well as the observations that girls discussed and named on this forum become a desirable commodity such that guys who do not even know what the girl looks like will go to a club and seek them out for a session thus making the desired girl incredibly hard to books by the regulars who had recommended them or covetted the particular discussed girls themselves.

Another observation is seeing the number of older men, particularly older local German men coming to the club with present (s) the for the girls.

You see an grizzled German March into Sharks reception with a huge shopping bag of ladies perfumes in plain boxes. Or the Executive type coming into Reception with branded Victoria Secrets lingerie for their favourite girls.

Then there is the foreigners bringing something more original from their home country to give the girl to make the gesture more memorable or intimate in friendship since the guy has put a lot of thought into the item.[/QUOTE]Giving gifts to girls is nothing new. Even German guys do it. A few years back, there was one in demand girl that would get many expensive phones just so she could keep in contact with the guy. Most girls do not get anything near that, but you got to have game if you chase after the ones everyone wants. Cheap Charlies wait at the back of the bus.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2115395]Nothing new there, I know some people here on ISG is also 'hiding' their favourites. And the Germans does it extensively. Sometimes I even get a feeling they bullshit some of the best girls to keep others away.

And just the fact that I have not heard a single mention of the 2 sharks girls who gave me close to a 10/10 session last visit here on ISG or on any forum goes to show that probably over half the field is bullshitting on names and performances on these forums.

Going to a club with backup girls is always important. But some feel they can get owned by a particular girl in a club. Then the key is probably like my friend used to do in Thailand and just hop bar / club. Next door you will feel more free and can start hunting again. It is easy to think you love someone by first sight, but really the key factor is if sex is equally good on session #10. Most of the time it isn't. And if it isn't, its better just to let go and move on.[/QUOTE]The advantage of free styling is discovering fresh faces. By the time they are well-known, they are no longer fresh. There are a few girls that show up a few times and never return. You never catch these if you go by the lists. This is a game where going by instincts and being willing to spend pays well if you know how to play.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2115395]Nothing new there, I know some people here on ISG is also 'hiding' their favourites. And the Germans does it extensively. Sometimes I even get a feeling they bullshit some of the best girls to keep others away.

And just the fact that I have not heard a single mention of the 2 sharks girls who gave me close to a 10/10 session last visit here on ISG or on any forum goes to show that probably over half the field is bullshitting on names and performances on these forums.[/QUOTE]+1.

Pistons,

I can see why you found 2 favs and don't see them mentioned, I noticed the same thing in Mainhatten where my journey all started and knew these guys either were holding back or had private forums, which we know is the case with both.

You hit the nail on the head and I can't say I can blame the Germans for such behavior, I did it in MX and back home in TX as well with our group so I am guilty too but I do not see it as a ' crime' rather smart. As others have said these guys fly in from Asia especially and snag what many consider the top 3-5 Sharks and it isn't because they know how to fish rather the opposite. Guys on this board put them out there to share basically did the fishing for the Asians and now many complain the Asians come in and snag the best girls. Can't blame the Asians either, give anyone a free meal ticket they will take it. Asians are smart guys and shrewd took those names and outbid the others. Kudos to them.

And yes, my wicked Queen is mentioned only in a bad way which is fine with me but I agree there are some top girls at Sharks hidden. The names of the guilty will be protected but I flew in to Darmstadt with pictures in hand to identify the ' Top 5' and I thought to myself, ' Really'; these guys are holding back there ain't no way this is the top 5. However, Mandy is a looker IMO and one day (especially since I just booked another trip so I can be here once a month) hopefully will meet her. She was booked all day but did at times sit for breaks and rejected guys left and right so I didn't ask her for time so I will find another way in, I have always been a sneaky guy and will (have) enlist (ed) the help of a local not on ISG for my Mandy quest in the future. Non-ISG'ers will be my helpers. When I sold those Germans the Viagra when I took my first towel it was a long term play to get eyes on the ground and a little help and I never leave Darmstadt w / o giving them ' on the house' Viagra gel packs which they fucking love.

My quest for Mandy might take months and the others I have written off, no interest in the other names and I will leave them off as I have heard way too many stories of how they fucked so many guys over, took their money, laughed at them and constantly chop them off their list when the next Asian comes in with more money. The hell with them, no interest but as to Ms. Mandy Sharks I will be patient and in time add her to staff as my first ' German Queen'.

So for Ms. Mandy Sharks I have designed her a personal ' Virtual Geldautomat' combining a towel with Euros and she is welcome to begin peeling them off as time goes on and as she does I will photoshop out the notes she withdrew in solid black so eventually this virtual Geldautomat will say ' Mandy' in all black. Here is a picture of it, feel free to show it to Mandy, she can take her time, I'll be around. :D

Happy fucking today gentlemen!

Does anyone know any girls that swallow or do anal? Last time I was there, I couldn't find a single girl that did though I didn't try very hard.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2115303]Thanks for letting me know, Sirioja, and I know you are not a fan of Lena. I should visit YY at some point next year, hopefully towards the end of February. I wish I can live at driving distance from the FKK land like you, although my bank account would suffer from it!! The two Hungarians Lora and Corinna are two of my top girls and I never get tired of them! If they are friends, it would be great to have a threesome with both of them, although I'm more a 1-1 person!

Unfortunately I think I'm done with FKK for this year, although a last minute New Years Party at Sharks is still going around my mind!

Rock.[/QUOTE]You asked, I just answered, I have nothing against Lena I saw only once at Sharks on a Monday, I think on April, I never tried her, just not round enough face like my Siberian tastes. On Friday, I was with a guy who look also for her, at YY, that's why I m sure she doesn't work at YY at the moment, when I was often at YY since 1 month, on Friday, Saturday or Sunday. But with registration, YY may attract girls who don t want to register. At the moment, my top girl was enough for me, but she left me for her holidays since today, I m happy for her, have new targets there, 1 is really exceptional, others to try, like smiling Fabienne. De.

Aylin. At moved from Sharks, to her friend Liz. De, and unfortunately will change for look, after she lost weight.

Also nothing against Evita of course, when so many, not only Asians, told me she is good for them.

Lora is sexy with woman look, smiling, enthusiastic for sex, lovely, good BJ, improving kissing, but Corina is able to follow my foreplay and way for sex, she was really interesting by the way she improved to follow me for our first room for 1 h30, even I felt I was very different from her usual clients. I experienced same with a German girl on this Saturday, never looking about the time, just playing fluent sex, enjoyable.

YY and GT with real women for sexual level, are closer for distance for me, compare to Sharks, but can t have diner after 10 pm when I can have good diner, most often for first meal of the day, after working all day, when I arrive at midnight at Sharks.

I also have to return to Hamburg for my passionate little mum. Ro and Switzerland of course, maybe to taste again Megan in ski hutte, unfortunately Misha doesn't tour anymore at Globe.

FKK land is so huge, and Wellcum. At will have to wait for next Summer.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2115497]As others have said these guys fly in from Asia especially and snag what many consider the top 3-5 Sharks and it isn't because they know how to fish rather the opposite. Guys on this board put them out there to share basically did the fishing for the Asians and now many complain the Asians come in and snag the best girls.[/QUOTE]I see it as good karma for Mandy to be rewarded. Supposedly even her 50 EUR sessions are good. Most of WGs believe that good reviews via word-of-mouth or internet forums don't matter. Whether these WGs are correct in their assumptions are open to debate.

Hoarding WGs is diificult given open format of FKK. The stairway leading to rooms and money lockers are visible from 50 percent of the club.

Also I occasionally ask around about WGs I read about. 90 percent of the time they are not my look and I never take them.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2115497]

My quest for Mandy might take months and the others I have written off, no interest in the other names and I will leave them off as I have heard way too many stories of how they fucked so many guys over, took their money, laughed at them and constantly chop them off their list when the next Asian comes in with more money. The hell with them, no interest but as to Ms. Mandy Sharks I will be patient and in time add her to staff as my first ' German Queen'.

So for Ms. Mandy Sharks I have designed her a personal ' Virtual Geldautomat' combining a towel with Euros and she is welcome to begin peeling them off as time goes on and as she does I will photoshop out the notes she withdrew in solid black so eventually this virtual Geldautomat will say ' Mandy' in all black. Here is a picture of it, feel free to show it to Mandy, she can take her time, I'll be around. :D

Happy fucking today gentlemen![/QUOTE]For Mandy it was inevitable that she was already pre booked the day you visited Sharks. Seeing Mandy declining g customers as she was waiting for those customers is frustrating. You think she is free since she is sitting alone but actually her time has been allocated out unbeknownst to many who come up to her.

Good that you could see straight away from the body language that Mandy was occupied and you had the strategic mind to not even bother waiting Mandy out on the off chance she became free and took your own lead to go to find another girl.

It's our time and our money. Find someone else if the first option is out for the count (well by all the Asians) who now book Mandy continuously.

The joy of discovering Mandy when she first started is now wane and now it is difficult to book her unless one quiet day.

Good idea on the virtual money tree for the expected money to be spent on Mandy and how much she can expect to earn if she adopts you as a customer.

Goes to show when one lays out the cash in such a fashion how much one can spend on a girl over time.

It hope to see future updates of the virtual Mandy Money Tree be updated with black as the euro notes are expended on Mandy bookings. It will then authenticate that one is getting sessions with Mandy and recording the fact.

Keep up the good work.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2115573]I see it as good karma for Mandy to be rewarded. Supposedly even her 50 EUR sessions are good. Most of WGs believe that good reviews via word-of-mouth or internet forums don't matter. Whether these WGs are correct in their assumptions are open to debate.

Hoarding WGs is diificult given open format of FKK. The stairway leading to rooms and money lockers are visible from 50 percent of the club.

Also I occasionally ask around about WGs I read about. 90 percent of the time they are not my look and I never take them.[/QUOTE]I find some guys give really bad tips on girls. Similar to you, a guy will rave about a girl, I then click her and realise she is not my taste or I actually know her and have background that she is not the performer I expect her be so go with the background research notes and mentally decide not to pursue now she is spotted.

There are a lot of girls not reported on the forum. It does seem a lot of guys do not mention these girls, but time again the same 3 to 5 girls names pop up which for the travellers who are in town for a short time and want a sure thing will gravitate the girls that are discussed the most. Mandy being one of them and Helen becoming more discussed.

[QUOTE=Bg980;2115274]While I wholly agree with you and TeFab456, I can totally understand why guys would have a "hit list" when they come to an FKK. Being an international traveler myself, it's nearly impossible to keep track of the girls and if you spend all that money and time (not to mention vacation days), you tend to be more risk averse. So you're more likely to go for the highly reviewed girls, girls that this forum has provided some assurance of quality.

For me though, Kosher Kowboy's YMMV argument is spot on. These girls are not one-size-fits-all products that are highly reviewed on Amazon, personal preference plays a huge role. The other argument is that most of these girls are smart enough to recognize their position. The biggest advantage you have is the option to go with other girls and when you willingly give up that option, you've lost all leverage. Even the best girls turn in 7/10 performances in those situations.

My recommendation is to stop going for base hits and go for the home runs. Sure some of them will be misses, but you'll find a few gems that are perfect for what you're looking for and it'll make you forget all the others. And all your money.[/QUOTE]Bg980, agree with your post. Forge one's own path.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2115364]I'm not certain who your Queen is but Turkish guy's like to get done fast. She probably likes them because she's earning 50 euros for 10 minutes work rather than 30. 'Turkish' clubs (clubs with mostly Turkish clientele) sometimes have a 15 minute 30 euro option.[/QUOTE]But if the Turkish are spending 50 when many others are spending 100 and upwards minimum then are not economically the Turks getting a better deal? They still get BJ and Sex which in the end is what is being sold and each is getting in some form?

Are there any Turkish on the forum who can opine?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2115395]Nothing new there, I know some people here on ISG is also 'hiding' their favourites. And the Germans does it extensively. Sometimes I even get a feeling they bullshit some of the best girls to keep others away.

And just the fact that I have not heard a single mention of the 2 sharks girls who gave me close to a 10/10 session last visit here on ISG or on any forum goes to show that probably over half the field is bullshitting on names and performances on these forums.

Going to a club with backup girls is always important. But some feel they can get owned by a particular girl in a club. Then the key is probably like my friend used to do in Thailand and just hop bar / club. Next door you will feel more free and can start hunting again. It is easy to think you love someone by first sight, but really the key factor is if sex is equally good on session #10. Most of the time it isn't. And if it isn't, its better just to let go and move on.[/QUOTE]I know I've posted this before, but no harm in repeating. Do you honestly think that ISG is taken seriously by locals or regulars? Most experienced FKK clubbers just stop posting online all together, but if they do write up something it is on German, French or Dutch forums. PMs and whatsapp are more useful to me nowadays than forum posts (or real life meetings obviously). ISG is nice for a laugh now and then, especially when the tourists seem to speculate for pages and pages about what is happening in FKK land.

What service level and recommendations is concerned, standards are just different. Nothing personal, but based on experience, my first reaction of reading about a 10 out of 10 provider here is "probably a 7 or maybe an 8". Especially if it is in Sharks or Oase. I can't take anyone serious who still thinks these clubs are the bomb.

You want not only to see Mandy but to go with her on the room? On Wednesday last week there was a good chance to do so. Mandy was sitting at the bar and talking with the servants of the bar until 12:15 pm. When the first client booked her. You see, come early at 11 am and take your chance.

I didn't, because I went a second time within two weeks with Ariella from Bulgaria. Not a stunner at all, but high performing in the room.