Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Balboa;1987597]Look forward to at least checking it out![/QUOTE]Based on my whatsapp messages, the girls are more excited about a new club help than the guys! My whatsapp has been blowing up since yesterday!! I can understand the rationale, they hate standing out in the open at mabs for the whole world to see and there arent enough guys in Dolce and K club for them to make money on a consistent basis. So if a new and improved club help opens up, they will be thrilled at the idea of having a "steady" income again.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1987750]Based on my whatsapp messages, the girls are more excited about a new club help than the guys! My whatsapp has been blowing up since yesterday!! I can understand the rationale, they hate standing out in the open at mabs for the whole world to see and there arent enough guys in Dolce and K club for them to make money on a consistent basis. So if a new and improved club help opens up, they will be thrilled at the idea of having a "steady" income again.[/QUOTE]I have to ask what girls? From everything I have heard the girls at Mabs are not worth going for. And how much are the girls in Dolce and K Club trying to get that is not allowing them to make money on a consistent basis? If there are not enough guys in those clubs, then they are expecting guys to come out of the woodwork just because a new club opens? It has been a while since the old Help closed. If there are chicks left who have any memories of the place then surely they are over the hill and/or worn out by now.

Regarding the new Help. Unlike many others, I'm not updated on the GLS scene. I thought LeBoy was still working and would have some nights as Help nights. Working full time as the "New Help" might be good.

I know many of you have been hoping for a new Help since the old one closed. I look at a different picture. In ALL of Brazil the good mongering scenes are disappearing. They are doing a clean-up in all states of Brazil. Brazil doesn't want sexual tourism. Because of this I think a new Help will have lots of problems to succeed. To get a new Help it takes a lot of gringos to go there and a shitload of putas, not just the fuglies from Mabs. Also it's necessary that the prefeitura doesn't close it. Maybe the neighborhood survived the g*y-crowd, but lots of gringos will be different. Muggers, drugdealers and all kind of scum will follow (just like with the old Help).

I don't want to be pessimistic, just realistic.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1987765]Regarding the new Help. Unlike many others, I'm not updated on the GLS scene. I thought LeBoy was still working and would have some nights as Help nights. Working full time as the "New Help" might be good.

I know many of you have been hoping for a new Help since the old one closed. I look at a different picture. In ALL of Brazil the good mongering scenes are disappearing. They are doing a clean-up in all states of Brazil. Brazil doesn't want sexual tourism. Because of this I think a new Help will have lots of problems to succeed. To get a new Help it takes a lot of gringos to go there and a shitload of putas, not just the fuglies from Mabs. Also it's necessary that the prefeitura doesn't close it. Maybe the neighborhood survived the g*y-crowd, but lots of gringos will be different. Muggers, drugdealers and all kind of scum will follow (just like with the old Help).

I don't want to be pessimistic, just realistic.[/QUOTE]Also, Crivella.

Was last in Rio 2 years ago and first visit to Monte Carlo.

Usual scene and layout, about 30 girls and of those 4 were my type.

Two were busy, the one whose name is "Barbie" but real name Stephanie (or who really knows) didn't do anal so I moved on.

Found "Adriella", late 20"s, ok body with plenty of tattoos and she does anal.

Good 40 minutes in the room, I am large and she took me for the entire time up the ass.

Paid around $R470 and left to go back to my hotel.

An ok club with an average line up in my view.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1987757]I have to ask what girls? From everything I have heard the girls at Mabs are not worth going for. And how much are the girls in Dolce and K Club trying to get that is not allowing them to make money on a consistent basis? If there are not enough guys in those clubs, then they are expecting guys to come out of the woodwork just because a new club opens? It has been a while since the old Help closed. If there are chicks left who have any memories of the place then surely they are over the hill and/or worn out by now.[/QUOTE]That the beauty of Rio, there is a new 18 year old every day looking to make money. All the females that used to patron help are probably middle aged by now, so that opens the door for all the young girls to have a safe and hidden spot to work at. I for one am wishing them success, I really miss the old Help days.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1987765]To get a new Help it takes a lot of gringos to go there and a shitload of putas, not just the fuglies from Mabs.[/QUOTE]Well there will definitely be a lot of gringos. On the way down and while waiting to get in the plane met some guys who showed me the same flyer that has been going around. Now if we can just get some decent chicks to show up with some decent prices.

I could care less. I never went to the original one, so why would I go to this one. Not my cup of tea. That being said, other enjoy that type of scene. Its all good.

Even if it could avoid the local government hassles, I think it will be difficult for it to succeed, just as Sperto has suggested. Those places are successful when top talent is provided. The majority of top talent went down hill many years ago, once they started chasing the Euros. I highly doubt top talent working as escorts, are going to show their faces around this new club where they can be spotted by the locals.

Hey, who knows, maybe it will work. Go for it!

30 minutes 190 reais in the past 170 reais.

40 minutes 260 reais.

60 minutes 300 reais in the past 270 reais.

Entrance still the same 35 reais.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1987765]Regarding the new Help. Unlike many others, I'm not updated on the GLS scene. I thought LeBoy was still working and would have some nights as Help nights. Working full time as the "New Help" might be good.

I know many of you have been hoping for a new Help since the old one closed. I look at a different picture. In ALL of Brazil the good mongering scenes are disappearing. They are doing a clean-up in all states of Brazil. Brazil doesn't want sexual tourism. Because of this I think a new Help will have lots of problems to succeed. To get a new Help it takes a lot of gringos to go there and a shitload of putas, not just the fuglies from Mabs. Also it's necessary that the prefeitura doesn't close it. Maybe the neighborhood survived the g*y-crowd, but lots of gringos will be different. Muggers, drugdealers and all kind of scum will follow (just like with the old Help).

I don't want to be pessimistic, just realistic.[/QUOTE]They are not doing a clean-up in all states, if you go to Sao Paulo you can find clubs with over 200 girls, in Sao Paulo there are more options but I still prefer rio over Sao Paulo 1) all the brothels are not in the same area unlike Rio de Janeiro 2) prices are more expensive because you have to pay an expensive entrance fee, only the clinicas have affordable prices.

World cup is over, Olympic too.

Help will open today but I don't want to say it will be a good club 1) we have to know if the system will be like in the past, if the drink prices will be affordable or as expensive as other Copacabana clubs if we have to pay an expensive entrance fee or if the infrastructure or facility will be good so maybe you will be right help won't be as good as in the past.

If helps works, all the clubs in Copacabana ex Barbarella, Casablanca Dolce vita Calabria etc and termas will drop their price to attract more clients more girls will work so more competition so Rio will be like in the past.

Help doesn't only depends on gringos. Even in Copacabana I saw some clubs ex Calabria with more Brazilian dudes over gringos termas don't only depend on gringos.

Mabs has been existing for many years it was a bar with many German dudes.

Brazil will never stop prostitution until they change their law and citizens have a descent living, even drug they can not stop.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1987834]I could care less. I never went to the original one, so why would I go to this one. Not my cup of tea. That being said, other enjoy that type of scene. Its all good.

Even if it could avoid the local government hassles, I think it will be difficult for it to succeed, just as Sperto has suggested. Those places are successful when top talent is provided. The majority of top talent went down hill many years ago, once they started chasing the Euros. I highly doubt top talent working as escorts, are going to show their faces around this new club where they can be spotted by the locals.

Hey, who knows, maybe it will work. Go for it![/QUOTE]Many Brazilians don't only chase euros, they chase money (reais, dollars etc) I saw many Brazilians work in Japan, Europe etc thinking they will make more money many came back disappointed it is as if many people go to Hollywood to become a big star but most of them fail.

Nowadays many big top talent go to Sao Paulo though I still prefer Rio and more if help will work again.

P.S.: there is a big crisis in Europe, euros not as good as in the past.

I've also been getting a lot of WhatsApp msgs. Received this photo today of some girls passing out flyers.

Mabs really isn't that terrible. Almost every time I've been there I always see 3-5 good choices, but have never grabbed one as I'm not into late night mongering.

Was at Solarium again yesterday. They had way more girls than usual (48 according to one of them) and about half of them were amazing. Further conversation with the girl who gave me the headcount suggested that the termas girl grapevine also considers it to be the best of the T1's currently and many girls have recently migrated there.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1988027]They are not doing a clean-up in all states.[/QUOTE]
OK, you must be right and I must be wrong. We trust your expertise and experience of all the 27 brazilian states. The forum is lucky to have you.

If the government and the police do not give them trouble, it won't be hard to resurrect a brand name and concept like Help. As someone mentioned the programa girls don't want to be outside in public hustling at Mabs. All you have to is provide a fun and safe environment for the local programa girls (Mabs girls, termas / clinica girls on their off-time, escorts on an open night, etc). The guys will follow like dogs to bacon. The whole thing could snowball from the internet word of mouth. Perhaps girls will be getting off buses en masse from outlying areas in Rio state, Sao Paulo and other regions once again. Girls use to come from all over Brasil, cram into shared apartments, make a few bucks in Rio for several months and live discreetly in their home towns in the off-season. They were their own boss at Help. They set their own hours, their own prices and went home with whom they decided. There was also an allusion of romance as well as fun inside Help Disco with a great deal of flirting, drinking and dancing. I have had several programa girls who I would call and they would only meet later outside Help. They would insist we go in. They were young girls who liked the scene. They didn't leave my side and never responded to attention from other men.

The economy sucks again for Brazilian girls and the exchange rate again favors gringoes. Yes, the gringoes will follow the girls. If you think there will be a gringo shortage you are fooling yourself.

If Brasil is so adamant about clamping down, why does a place like Scandallo exist in Sao Paulo?

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;1988154]If the government and the police do not give them trouble, it won't be hard to resurrect a brand name and concept like Help. As someone mentioned the programa girls don't want to be outside in public hustling at Mabs. All you have to is provide a fun and safe environment for the local programa girls (Mabs girls, termas / clinica girls on their off-time, escorts on an open night, etc). The guys will follow like dogs to bacon. The whole thing could snowball from the internet word of mouth. Perhaps girls will be getting off buses en masse from outlying areas in Rio state, Sao Paulo and other regions once again. Girls use to come from all over Brasil, cram into shared apartments, make a few bucks in Rio for several months and live discreetly in their home towns in the off-season. They were their own boss at Help. They set their own hours, their own prices and went home with whom they decided. There was also an allusion of romance as well as fun inside Help Disco with a great deal of flirting, drinking and dancing. I have had several programa girls who I would call and they would only meet later outside Help. They would insist we go in. They were young girls who liked the scene. They didn't leave my side and never responded to attention from other men.

The economy sucks again for Brazilian girls and the exchange rate again favors gringoes. Yes, the gringoes will follow the girls. If you think there will be a gringo shortage you are fooling yourself.

If Brasil is so adamant about clamping down, why does a place like Scandallo exist in Sao Paulo?[/QUOTE]

im with you, but Its just certain guys that want this to fail before it can even get started, for what reason I don't know. What's the problem having another outlet to go to. Negative comments and the place hasnt even open yet. Saying who will go and who will not. Nobody has any idea what girls will go there.