Angeles City

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1716003]I disagree with this. It paints a picture that the streets are paved in gold in China and there are pretty girls everywhere you look. Compare a stroll down the streets of Cebu with the streets of Chengdu and I saw far prettier girls in Cebu. Average looking Chinese girls are average looking girls. Plus Chinese girls are wrapped in about nine layers because the weather is colder and they smile nowhere near as much. Filipina girls are smiley, playful, flirty, inquisitive and fun to be around, whereas Chinese girls (in fact Chinese people in general) seem to have an inherent distrust of foreigners. And the language barrier is MASSIVE. Unless you speak Mandarin you will get half an hour of silence with a very pretty looking girl. It's great for the ego and the photo collection but there's more to our hobby than that.

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There is nowhere in China even remotely like Angeles. Angeles has thousands of working girls in one small area, so it's no surprise that you'll see lots of average ones. That's the nature of any major sex destination. Pattaya is the same. In China though the girls are usually holed up in flats or saunas, away from prying eyes since the government clampdown, so you'll only really see the creme de la creme, the girls you researched online.

For anyone who is reading who might be tempted to try China, I'd say pay half the money and have twice the fun in Philippines. And there are some lovely girls to be found too if you make the effort.[/QUOTE]LOL I almost want to argue AGAINST your points just to keep Philippines from getting overcrowded and shut-down all the sooner. (You may say it will never happen, but I thought the same thing about so many places in China that, while they never disappeared, the govt's actions were successful in turning them to crap.).

But, yeah this is totally true. And as far as I'm concerned, the language barrier hasn't a thing in the world to do with it. I divide the world's working girls into two categories. Those who actually like screwing, and those who do it for the money. Seemingly 90% of Filipinas fall in the former category, even if they started in the latter. Chinese working girls don't enjoy it one bit, are prudish about sex in some weird way even when they've been doing it for years, and. Even if they really like you and you do connect, the point of connection will be at the conversational and personal level but it won't advance the intimacy of the sex in the way you get sex from 50+% of all Filipinas you'll encounter. I explored the deepest darkest reaches of China for years and years and years before ever setting foot in the Philippines, reading Chinese language forums to find so many unknown places. The funny thing is, I'm kind of glad I found the Philippines so late because otherwise I wouldn't have even DREAMED of going to the trouble for so much mediocre. I wouldn't have gotten to enjoy the challenge and exploration aspect.

In my mind the way I sum it up is by saying: I feel like Chinese girls hate that they are doing it for money, and just can't get over it, so even if they start to enjoy the sex they'll always limit it with this guilt behind it. Filipinas get over that and just enjoy, ironic as hell since THEY are the religious ones!

[QUOTE=Parasitius;1716022]
In my mind the way I sum it up is by saying: I feel like Chinese girls hate that they are doing it for money, and just can't get over it, so even if they start to enjoy the sex they'll always limit it with this guilt behind it. Filipinas get over that and just enjoy, ironic as hell since THEY are the religious ones![/QUOTE]When I was still in my 20's, I had a couple of Chinese girls in Shenzhen who were working girls that enjoyed the sex and were quite passionate in bed. But you are right that it's rare to find that. Most of them are passionless fucks. And now that I'm over 40, I never find it in China. It's a shame, because those Chinese girls are damn sexy looking and their skin feels great. Filipinas do seem to love sex, even with an old geezer like me. Filipina chicks have orgasms with me even now, I haven't given a girl in China an orgasm in over 15 years.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1715864]PI is no comparison with China. The average China doll is far better looking than any a upper tier filipina chick.

I think you nailed it! PI is cheaper and they speak English and that is the main draw for mongers, plus GFE.

I feel your pain when trying to find a non-mother. Not many out there in AC, plus so many of the mongers visiting AC are mother fuckers anyways, that's what keeps the supply so high. LOL

All in all if you got real money and want high quality young women who haven't procreated yet, then China is a better bet by far![/QUOTE]To Amjeck.

I been mongering in China and Pi for over 15 yr yes Chinese girl is taller and better quality than filipina but not as GFE, I am Chinese speak good mandarin but China is not than easy if you don't speak Chinese and China because of crack down the last few yr is not a good for mongering anymore and I have play in many place in China remember the village in Shanghai, Sha tsui village in Shenzhen, all the bbs in Changping and bbs all over Guangzhou all have over 1000 girl to pick from the cheap.

Fast eddie 48.

Besides the endless question of whether apples are better than oranges does anyone here have any current Angeles City information? Pics of chics? Bars full, empty? Funny thing that happened on your way to the BJ bar? Roaming street kids? Anything on topic is better these off topic debates.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1716181]To Amjeck.

I been mongering in China and Pi for over 15 yr yes Chinese girl is taller and better quality than filipina but not as GFE,

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Chinese girls taller Yes.

Quality. Nah nah nah naahhh nahhh nahhhhhhh as in no no no no. Chinese girls hungry for money and quite cold like the entire character of the country. This said after 10 years of living in China.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1716255]Chinese girls taller Yes.

Quality. Nah nah nah naahhh nahhh nahhhhhhh as in no no no no. Chinese girls hungry for money and quite cold like the entire character of the country[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. I was married to 2 Chinese women, recently divorced because she was a cold woman and thought it was ok. I have a Filipina now and she is so affectionate. Everyone changes I think after marriage, but I think I have a keeper. I want to do AC one last time before committing.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1716003].. because the weather is colder and they smile nowhere near as much. Filipina girls are smiley, , whereas Chinese girls (in fact Chinese people in general) seem to have an inherent distrust of foreigners. . .




.[/QUOTE]I'm just back from a trip to Thailand and my GF and I were commenting EVERY day about how nice it was to see natural happy unforced smiles from the Thai people. Similar to the Philippines. As soon as we were back in China, the scowls start and even a smile from me aimed at a total stranger will elicit the same cold look in reply. I think Chinese in general arent very happy with life and it shows. Other Asian countries, including Indonesia Cambodia all know how to smile and will smile and look at you with a happy expression.

In China, its just hard to get them to look halfway happy. Relax China, lifes not so bad. Of course theres a government that tells you what you can and cannot read, a mother who tries to get her daughter married off endlessly so she won't be embarrassed in front of her neighbours, a bit of pollution to worry about, a hell of a lot of smokers, a country that's madly over crowded and a few others. However happiness is a choice. People, such as the Thais and Filipinos are inherently happy.

I spent 2 of 3 weeks in AC. Had 14 different girls in AC. About 8 were mothers. 7 mothers were as tight or tighter than non-mothers. The other mother was still very good.

How did I pick them out? I didn't have to. A couple girls, from different bars whom I did meet before picked them out for me. Most of the nights I had 2 girls in the room with me. One night I had 3 girls. Only one time did we do a 3 some. Most of the girls picked out their friends or cousins working in the same bar to join us.

I went to Cebu and met up with former bg from AC and she brought her cousin who had gave birth 2 months ago. Cousin had extra 5 kilos but unbelievably tight! After a few nights they went home and sent over very shy 19 yo cousin who lost her cherry a few months ago. She was so tight that I couldn't enter mish. After lubing up, I had her slowly CG over me. Took a minute to enter and then we got into a rythem but I could last more than 3 minutes! She was so tight and wet.

Nothing like AC. After a while and if you are nice the girls will refer friends and family to you. Spent almost all my nights sleeping between 2 girls. Nothing like it!

Btw, came back to T3 last night around 10:30pm. T3 was packed. Most flights were delayed so huge crowds waiting. Came outside and loooong taxi line. Resort World has a small kiosk on the curb. The man asked me to sign in on the clip board and wait for the bus. 5 minutes later the bus was there. The driver loaded my 2 bags on board. First stop is Marriotts and second stop is Lexinton. When we arrived at Lexington he asked if I was getting off and if I was checking in to the hotel? I said I just rode the bus to catch a taxi! He then summon the guard to hail me a taxi. The guard had to walk down the block to the street to hail a taxi. I tipped the bus driver P50 and the guard P20 for their kind hospitality. Taxi meter was under P100. I didn't asked for the 10 pesos rebate off the meter. Tipped him P20. Total cost P200. Had a yellow cab from T3 try to charge me P500 before for the same ride, I just gave him 200 and walked away.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1715864]PI is no comparison with China. The average China doll is far better looking than any a upper tier filipina chick.[/QUOTE]Considering this girl is a Filipina bar girl from Angeles City, I disagree with the statement above.

[QUOTE=Parasitius;1716022]LOL I almost want to argue AGAINST your points just to keep Philippines from getting overcrowded and shut-down all the sooner. (You may say it will never happen, but I thought the same thing about so many places in China that, while they never disappeared, the govt's actions were successful in turning them to crap.).{S N I P}
In my mind the way I sum it up is by saying: I feel like Chinese girls hate that they are doing it for money, and just can't get over it, so even if they start to enjoy the sex they'll always limit it with this guilt behind it. Filipinas get over that and just enjoy, ironic as hell since THEY are the religious ones![/QUOTE]Lots of generalising by posters in this thread, but this statement above struck a chord with me.

China used to be a fun place for P4P. But as the country grew richer and richer, the girls' attitudes got worse and worse (bloody princess syndrome)! In comparison, PI has remained a very poor country.

To my mind, it was fun mongering in China (more fun than compared to AC or Manila?). Many of us remember the 3,000-5,000 WGs in one tiny village in Shenzhen city, and 30,000 to 60,000 WGs in saunas, KTV and BBSs in one sub-district of Dongguan city (Flower streets of 500 girls), etc, etc. This was sex tourism with all its excesses (mainly HKers, Taiwanese, SGeans and Malaysians).

But no more! Since the great crackdown of 2014 (which is ongoing), P4P in China is very difficult for business visitors and tourists - with the exception of Shanghai, which for various reasons was spared the excessive crackdowns that occurred elsewhere. China is entering another puritanical period.

One effect of the crackdown will be that more and more Chinese sex tourists will come to PI, far outnumbering all the other Asian sex tourists. I wonder what AC will be like then, particularly considering the attitudes of those newly rich Chinese to other Asians. Actually, I think I know!

Ikksman.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1716337]Considering this girl is a Filipina bar girl from Angeles City, I disagree with the statement above.[/QUOTE]Which bar?

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1716381]Which bar?[/QUOTE]Well now that's a good question. These girls change bars frequently. But she was the star of a bar called The One Eyed Wench. Her name is Elsa. She's semi famous in AC (best boobs in town). At least she was a few years ago.

Nice one, Smoothy. I hope Elsa is still working when I go there in October.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1716337]Considering this girl is a Filipina bar girl from Angeles City, I disagree with the statement above.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1716337]Considering this girl is a Filipina bar girl from Angeles City, I disagree with the statement above.[/QUOTE]Body is banging, from the photo I can't tell for sure if I find her face attractive.

Regardless, one girl does not change the reality. I *personally* get more turned on by the small size and dark skin of Filipinas. And yet, still, I have to admit: with over 5 trips to the Philippines, bar hopping all night to find the hottest girl and sometimes even going home alone, most trips lasting 2 weeks and so on. In 5 trips I have managed to discover a grand total of just 3 8's. Everything else, even if I thought they were really cute, were 7 and below.

Did I get to bang those 8's? The demand was so ridiculous for them that it didn't turn out well. One I tried to bang for 3 consecutive trips, but could never line up the stars. She apparently now has developed a real attitude and isn't worth it, too many years of being pursued by too many men. Doesn't do long time ever. The next one quit bars because she has just a non-stop list of clients calling. She doesn't do overnight. Finally, only thanks to the hard work of my friend, I did get to bang her ONCE. The next trip I again couldn't get a hold of her. The third 8? Totally inexperienced and with complete unrealistic expectations about tips and so on, I was the first guy to ever barfine her. Worst sexual experience of my life. I assume if I went back in a year she'll have learned the ropes and perform much better, and be amazing, but given her hotness, I'm sure she'll be off the market by then.

In China? Jesus. How many KTV and saunas you could go to where you can consistently find several 8's. A lot! (Unfortunately I was earning a Chinese salary the whole time I was there and couldn't indulge except a few times a a year.) Now as far as 9's or 10's I've only seen them in night clubs in Shanghai or so, and they were not working girls, and guarded by a large group of VIP guys.

[QUOTE=Parasitius;1716531]
In China? Jesus. How many KTV and saunas you could go to where you can consistently find several 8's. A lot! (Unfortunately I was earning a Chinese salary the whole time I was there and couldn't indulge except a few times a a year.) Now as far as 9's or 10's I've only seen them in night clubs in Shanghai or so, and they were not working girls, and guarded by a large group of VIP guys.[/QUOTE]Beautiful to look at, but almost without fail they are crap shags. I also find Chinese girls more attractive to look at, but I don't prefer them for mongering over Filipinas, Thai or Indo girls because they are not as good in bed. Chinese girls are also not as fun and you have to watch them to make sure they don't try to steal from you. Mongolian girls however, are normally a great shag! When I'm in Beijing, I'll choose the Mongolian chicks over the Chinese chicks pretty much without fail. We used to go to Passions karaoke at the Sheraton Great Wall hotel often, and the Chinese girls there are very good looking. I believe Passions has been closed down now for a while, but when it was open, those chicks were damn hot. Most likely the hottest girls in all of China, and I believe Passions was the most expensive club in China at the time as well. The girls who worked there drove Ferrari's, BMW's, Mercedes, etc. As the girls would tell me there - "this is a good job working here". LOL. My client would pay for the girls for me, so I always had my choice of chicks there at no charge to me. Some of the most beautiful girls I've ever been with have been from that club. However, that being said, I preferred the cheap Mongolian chicks from Maggies over the Passions club upper class Chinese girls. Those Mongolian chicks can screw! There were times when I took stunning Chinese girls from Passions that I would rate a 9 out of 10 or even close to a 10 where they were charging 500 to 700 USD for an hour in my room and my dick would go soft because they had no passion at all. How can you work at a club called Passions and have no passion? I've had the same thing happen with some stunners in Venezuela. A girl being gorgeous does not guarantee a satisfying experience with that chick.

By the way, that flip chick I posted with the big boobs is also a poor shag. LOL! But on the average, flip chicks are pretty fun and passionate in bed.