American Politics

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2969157]LOL. I am not sure what you expected.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/biden-lied-about-everything-philly-fed-finds-all-jobs-created-q2-were-fake[/URL]

So after Biden lied about creating nearly one million jobs in 2023, his labor department lied again in Q2 2024.

And so, after it first revised the 12 months ending March 31 by 818 K, the downgrades extended into the second quarter of 2024, when the Philadelphia Fed early benchmark estimates showed that instead of the 1. 1% gain shown initially by the BLS, payroll jobs in the 50 states and the District of Columbia were actually down 0. 1%!

We do know that all the jobs reportedly "created" in the second quarter, were actually fake, there were no net jobs created at all, and in fact, the US lost jobs in Q2!

Translation: in his latest attempt to create an impression of economic growth, Biden lied about everything, again.[/QUOTE]Bernie Sanders country is going red and jumping on the Trump train also.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2969209]Bernie Sanders country is going red and jumping on the Trump train also.[/QUOTE]All MAGAs aboard!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2969209]Bernie Sanders country is going red and jumping on the Trump train also.[/QUOTE]The NYT story is under a paywall. It looks like Dems lost a supermajority in both chambers in Vermont but still dominate the Legislature there. [URL]https://www.sevendaysvt.com/news/democrats-on-track-to-lose-supermajority-in-legislature-42212929[/URL].

Democrats and Progressive currently hold a combined 109 seats, more than the 100 votes needed to override vetoes by Gov. Phil Scott. In the Senate, meanwhile, Democrats and Progressives currently have 23 seats.

But by the end of election night, Democrats had lost their grip in both chambers, giving Scott much more leverage. The governor, who cruised to reelection on Tuesday night, campaigned vigorously this cycle for other Republicans he said would help him bring affordability to the state.

End of link. Yeah, Vermont is moving in the right direction, but it is sad Republicans are not ruling there yet. If you watch the whole video, what really got me is how many regular citizens were scared to talk on camera about the shit conditions of Burlington. This is the Democratic douche version of justice. They can say anything about MAGA and Trump but any negatives about Democratic douches and their policies and it is misinformation that needs to be censored.

You have to wonder how many of these Democratic ciities, even smaller ones like Burlington, are this messed up. Like San Francisco, it is a beautiful city that has gone to shit.

In a secret ballot, the House Ethics Committee members, have decided to release their findings, in the Matt Gaetz, ethnics report.

Seems like there are enough Repub House Ethic Committee members, who (secretly anyways) despise Matt Gaetz, after all.

However, it's release, said to happen, just before the Christmas holidays, is the perfect timing for the Repub cowards and Gaetz sympathizers, to run-home for the holidays, and not have answer uncomfortable or difficult questions, w/r to Gaetz's pathetic nomination, should said report be demonstrably incriminating, due to Gaetz's alleged pedo, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.

Stay Tuned!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2969267]In a secret ballot, the House Ethics Committee members, have decided to release their findings, in the Matt Gaetz, ethnics report.

Seems like there are enough Repub House Ethic Committee members, who (secretly) despise Matt Gaetz, after all.

However, it's release, just before the Christmas holidays, is the perfect timing for Repub cowards and Gaetz sympathizers, to run-home for the holidays, who shall not be answering any uncomfortable or difficult questions, w/r to Gaetz's pathetic nomination should said report be demonstrably incriminating, due to Gaetz's alleged pedo, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.

Stay Tuned![/QUOTE]Gaetz's alleged, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.

But I'm in for the rest of it LMFAO, where do I sign up?

This is ISG after all, maybe you should get back to your nambla / feminist lesbian forums.

Gaetz for President 2028!!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2969267]In a secret ballot, the House Ethics Committee members, have decided to release their findings, in the Matt Gaetz, ethnics report.

Seems like there are enough Repub House Ethic Committee members, who (secretly anyways) despise Matt Gaetz, after all.

However, it's release, said to happen, just before the Christmas holidays, is the perfect timing for the Repub cowards and Gaetz sympathizers, to run-home for the holidays, and not have answer uncomfortable or difficult questions, w/r to Gaetz's pathetic nomination, should said report be demonstrably incriminating, due to Gaetz's alleged pedo, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.

Stay Tuned![/QUOTE]And just when we thought Watergaetz was over! LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2969149]Here is the big difference; [b]a Southern Baptist minister has zero evidence that there is a god[/b] or that the spirit of long dead and buried Jesus Christ gives a shit about human beings or anything else on planet Earth.

By stark contrast, I have all available evidence, data and the historical record on my side proving that no Repub potus' policies and stewardship of the past 100 years produced anything but crap results vs that of, say, Jimmy Carter much less Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Joe Biden in terms of economic recovery, economic expansion and average annual jobs creation unless that Repub has also tripled the National Debt to counter the crap results of his policies and stewardship without it.

[b]On my side of the argument, I've got every major downturn, every historic jobs destruction and none of the major economic recoveries, economic expansions and historic jobs creation for Repubs over the past 100 years[/b] vs every major economic recovery, economic expansion, historic jobs creation and none of the Great Depressions, Great Recessions or Historic Jobs Destruction for Dems.

Southern Baptists ministers only have, "oh, but look at the pretty trees. ".

The latter of which is a hell of a lot closer to the way Repubs, Bothsiders and Neithersiders argue in favor of their beloved Repubs than you probably are willing to acknowledge.[/QUOTE]Agreed!

I'm surprised, Tiny 12, didn't again turn to Chat GTP for answers, on Southern Baptist ministerial Repubs and see a pic of the [B]"Black Nazi" pastor[/B], Repub Mark Robinson (NC), who denies going by the moniker [I][b]"minisoldr",[/b][/i] on the sex forum Nude Africa.

But just like Repubs caught in their own web of lies (especially since he's pulling a Trump, trying to sue the press for false claims), Robinson has now recently been seen, as logged in to a state meeting as 'minisoldr,', the very handle (in the sex forum), he claims, to know nothing about! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I].

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2969000][B]Fed cuts by a quarter point, indicates fewer reductions ahead.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/18/fed-rate-decision-december-2024-.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Hasn't Powell heard Larry Summers' pronouncement on this? The Fed should be as angry about the state of today's [B]sucky[/B] economy as that relative handful of Netanyahu-hating but already regretful Muslims across just three states that "gave Trump the presidency" while Trump has also acknowledged as much. They should be lowering the Fed Funds Rate to 0% or near it to pull us out of this horrible economic downturn like they had to with at least 4 Repub presidents' economic policy results over the past 100 years!

Doesn't the Fed have access to all those lovely charts and graphs that Larry Summers and his slavish devotees refer to that prove this economy [B]sucks[/B] because Biden's [B]economic policy sucks[/B]?

Oh, but then there is this:

Well, we know Trump has already increased the price of imported goods and products since the election. His repeated insistence that he will add 10%-25%-200% across-the-board tariffs on so many imported goods and services "on Day One" has created uncommonly high and early retailer demand for front loading inventory that has driven container and shipping costs to increase. The higher costs of which will be passed on to the American Consumer and will absolutely positively not be paid by China, Canada, Mexico or any other countries.

Then again, until Larry Summers weighs in on it nobody really knows what to think about it.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/19/us/politics/voter-turnout-election-trump-harris.html[/URL]

Change in votes compared with 2020.

2. 5 million.

More votes.

For Trump.

7. 1 million.

Fewer votes for.

Harris than Biden.

Key to Trump's Win: Heavy Losses for Harris Across the Map.

By Ashley Wu, Lazaro Gamio, Robert Gebeloff, Elena Shao and Michael see. Bender Nov. 19,2024.

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It may seem like a clear story: Donald Trump won the election by winning the most votes. He improved on his totals, adding about 2. 5 million more votes than four years ago. But just as consequential to the outcome were Kamala Harris's losses: She earned about 7 million fewer votes compared with Joseph are. Biden Jr. 's performance in 2020.

Ms. Harris failed to find new voters in three of the seven swing states and in 80 percent of counties across the country, a New York Times analysis shows. In the places where she matched or exceeded Mr. Biden's vote totals, she failed to match Mr. Trump's gains.

Where each candidate got more votes or.

Fewer votes in 2024, compared with 2020.

Trump received 2. 5 million more votesTrump.

–.

Harris received 7. 1 million fewer votesHarris.

–.

We can't yet know how many Biden voters backed Mr. Trump or did not vote at all this cycle. But the decline in support for Ms. Harris in some of the country's most liberal areas is particularly notable. Compared with Mr. Biden, she lost hundreds of thousands of votes in major cities including Chicago, LOS Angeles and New York, and overall earned about 10 percent fewer votes in counties Mr. Biden won four years ago.

Mr. Trump, by contrast, found new voters in most counties, with significant gains in red states like Texas and Florida and also in blue states like New Jersey and New York.

Change in votes by county partisanship, compared with 2020.

Counties Harris Trump.

Heavily Democratic.

–12%.

+3%.

Moderately Democratic.

–10%.

+3%.

Lean Democratic.

–6%.

+3%.

Lean Republican.

–6%.

+4%.

Moderately Republican.

–5%.

+3%.

Heavily Republican.

–2%.

+4%.

Larry Sabato, the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, acknowledged that Biden voters who swung toward Mr. Trump played a part in Ms. Harris's loss, but pointed to low Democratic turnout as the larger factor.

"They just weren't excited," Mr. Sabato said of Democratic voters. "They were probably disillusioned by inflation, maybe the border. And they didn't have the motivation to get up and go out to vote. ".

The national rightward shift is a continuation of voting patterns seen in the last two elections. Even in his 2020 defeat, Mr. Trump found new voters across the country. (Both parties earned more votes in 2020 than in 2016.) And although Democrats outperformed expectations in 2022, when some had predicted a "red wave," they lost many voters who were dissatisfied with rising prices, pandemic-era restrictions and immigration policy.

At the local level, three distinct patterns help illustrate the overall outcome in 2024:

1. Where both candidates gained votes, but Trump gained more.

In hard-fought Georgia, both parties found new voters, but Mr. Trump outperformed Ms. Harris. For example, in Fulton County, which contains most of Atlanta, Ms. Harris gained about 4,500 votes, but Mr. Trump gained more than 7,400.

How vote totals changed in Atlanta precincts.

Where each candidate got more votes or.

Fewer votes in 2024, compared with 2020.

Trump.

Atlanta.

Buckhead.

Forest Park.

Smyrna.

Marietta.

Alpharetta.

Decatur.

East Point.

Harris.

Atlanta.

Buckhead.

Forest Park.

Smyrna.

Marietta.

Alpharetta.

Decatur.

East Point.

By Eli Murray, Elena Shao, Charlie Smart and Christine Zhang.

In addition to his gains in the Atlanta area, Mr. Trump won new voters in every other part of Georgia. He flipped the state back to Republicans after Mr. Biden's win there in 2020. He similarly outran Ms. Harris where she made gains in Wake County, and. See. , Lancaster County, Pa. , and Montgomery County, Texas.

2. Where Trump gained a little and Harris lost a little.

In Milwaukee County in swing-state Wisconsin, Ms. Harris lost 1,200 voters compared with Mr. Biden's total in 2020, while Mr. Trump gained more than 3,500.

How vote totals changed in Milwaukee precincts.

Where each candidate got more votes or.

Fewer votes in 2024, compared with 2020.

Trump.

Milwaukee.

Cudahy.

Greenfield.

Wauwatosa.

West Allis.

Shorewood.

East Side.

Lake Michigan.

Whitefish Bay.

Harris.

Milwaukee.

Cudahy.

Greenfield.

Wauwatosa.

West Allis.

Shorewood.

East Side.

Lake Michigan.

Whitefish Bay.

By Eli Murray, Elena Shao, Charlie Smart and Christine Zhang.

Ms. Harris still won the county at large, but her margins there and in other liberal enclaves of Wisconsin were not enough to hold off Mr. Trump's victories in rural, blue-collar counties that voted Republican in 2016 and 2020.

Democrats' inability to maintain their vote totals in battleground states was also apparent in the crucial areas around Charlotte, and. See. , Flint, Mich. , and Scranton, Pa.

3. Where Trump gained a little and Harris lost a lot.

Mr. Trump won Florida's Miami-Dade County, becoming the first Republican to do so since 1988. But again, Ms. Harris's loss was just as much of the story as his gain: Mr. Trump won about 70,000 new votes in the county, while she lost nearly 140,000.

How vote totals changed in Miami precincts.

Where each candidate got more votes or.

Fewer votes in 2024, compared with 2020.

Trump.

Miami.

Hialeah.

Kendall.

Coral Gables.

Harris.

Miami.

Hialeah.

Kendall.

Coral Gables.

By Eli Murray, Elena Shao, Charlie Smart and Christine Zhang.

Other counties that Mr. Trump flipped had similar vote disparities. In 21 of these 77 counties, Mr. Trump received fewer votes in this election than in 2020, but the Democratic vote drop-off was much steeper. This happened from coast to coast, from Fresno County, Calif. , to Pinellas County, Fla.

Joel Benenson, the chief pollster for Barack Obama's presidential campaigns, said he thought Democratic turnout was hurt by the party's lack of a presidential primary. (Mr. Biden dropped out of the race in July.) That process, he said, helps energize core voters who get involved with volunteering, making phone calls and knocking on doors early in the year.

"That was a real challenge for Vice President Harris, who had a short runway and would have benefited from a real primary season," Mr. Benenson said. "Republicans had a contested primary — even with a former president, they didn't just hand it to him. ".

Mr. Trump was clearly able to harness enthusiasm beyond his base. He made gains across almost all groups ranging in demographics, education and income, including those that traditionally made up the Democratic coalition. Ms. Harris failed to match Mr. Biden among the same groups.

Change in votes by county type, compared with 2020.

Counties Harris Trump.

Majority Black.

–12%.

–4%.

Majority Hispanic.

–18%.

+7%.

Urban.

–12%.

+3%.

High income.

–9%.

+3%.

Highly educated.

–9%.

+3%.

Retirement destinations.

–2%.

+8%.

Pre-election polls showed minority voters swinging toward Mr. Trump, and he appeared to make gains with those groups. He picked up votes in majority-Hispanic counties and in Black neighborhoods of major cities, a preliminary analysis of precinct data shows. But he lost votes, as did Ms. Harris, in majority-Black counties, especially those in the South where turnout dropped overall.

Mr. Trump found new voters in more than 30 states, including in the battleground states that were the sites of robust campaigning. His gains were modest in most other places. Ms. Harris was able to improve on Mr. Biden's performance in only four of the seven battlegrounds and just five states overall.

Change in votes by state, compared with 2020.

Click columns to sort. Swing states are in bold.

States Harris Trump.

Arizona.

–5%.

+6%.

Georgia.

+3%.

+8%.

Michigan.

–3%.

+6%.

North Carolina.

+1%.

+5%.

Nevada.

+0. 2%.

+12%.

Pennsylvania.

–1%.

+5%.

Wisconsin.

+2%.

+5%.

Show all states +.

John McLaughlin, Mr. Trump's campaign pollster, said the campaign was focused on finding supporters who were not reliable voters and making sure they turned out to the polls. He said that internal polling showed that voters who cast a ballot in 2024 after not voting in 2022 or 2020 supported Mr. Trump, 52 percent to 46 percent.

"The strategy was very much like 2016, to bring out casual voters who thought the country was on the wrong track," Mr. McLaughlin said. "These voters blamed Biden and Harris and generally had positive approval for Trump. ".

[QUOTE=Spidy;2969267]In a secret ballot, the House Ethics Committee members, have decided to release their findings, in the Matt Gaetz, ethnics report.

Seems like there are enough Repub House Ethic Committee members, who (secretly anyways) despise Matt Gaetz, after all.

However, it's release, said to happen, just before the Christmas holidays, is the perfect timing for the Repub cowards and Gaetz sympathizers, to run-home for the holidays, and not have answer uncomfortable or difficult questions, w/r to Gaetz's pathetic nomination, should said report be demonstrably incriminating, due to Gaetz's alleged pedo, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.

Stay Tuned![/QUOTE]I suspect the Repubs who secretly voted to release the findings on Gaetz were hoping there would be photos, videos or detailed descriptions of his dick and balls in them. From Nude Grinbitch's House under Bill Clinton, to the Repub House over the past two years and up until now and probably into the next two years, Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat Repubs were always interested in filling their few "working" days musing about and sniffing around Bill Clinton's dick and balls, Hunter Biden's dick and balls, probably Matt Gaetz' dick and balls, anybody's dick and balls will do.

But this time around Numbskull Repub President-elect Musk, Numbskull Repub President-elect Ramaswamy and Numbskull Repub President-elect Banning have pulled the ultimate Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat Repub stunt in demanding the USA government of, by and for the American people be shutdown rather than fund Cancer Research for American children instead of plowing all the additional Trillions in deficit spending they plan to add during their presidencies giving more tax breaks to Musk, Ramaswamy and other billionaires. Makes sense.

Why doesn't the now but set to shrink even further Repub Pink Tinkle in the House call an emergency vote to elect Elon, Vivek or Steve as the first ever Speaker of the House AND President-elect so any one of them can call the shots all the way around?

The Repubs are going to need any extra hands they can scrounge up on a gavel, their dicks and balls, wherever in order to get those additional Trillions in deficit-spending never-paid-for Repub tax cuts for Elon, Vivek and their fellow billionaire cronies:

[B]Rep. Spartz wont caucus with GOP, narrowing Republican margin in House[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-spartz-won-t-caucus-171900676.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]The ugly GOP math is even worse than it seems because scandal-tarred ex-Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Florida, already resigned his seat and has said he wont rejoin the new Congress in January.

Two more lawmakers, Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-New York, and Rep. Mike Waltz, R-Florida, are expected to step down after Trump takes office on Jan. 20 because they are expected to be confirmed to Cabinet posts.

That means House Speaker Mike Johnson could find himself [b]with just a 216-215 edge[/b] for at least several weeks until special elections can be held for what he hopes will be Republican replacements to take up those vacant seats.[/QUOTE]MAGAs, Bothsider / Neithersiders and most especially that relative handful of angry Muslims in those three decisive states who specifically "gave the presidency" to, well, now to Musk, Ramaswamy and Banning, The Kremlin, China and North Korea thank you for your votes.

The Musk / Ramawamy / Banning Train Has Left The Station!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2969250]The NYT story is under a paywall. It looks like Dems lost a supermajority in both chambers in Vermont but still dominate the Legislature there. [URL]https://www.sevendaysvt.com/news/democrats-on-track-to-lose-supermajority-in-legislature-42212929[/URL].

Democrats and Progressive currently hold a combined 109 seats, more than the 100 votes needed to override vetoes by Gov. Phil Scott. In the Senate, meanwhile, Democrats and Progressives currently have 23 seats.

But by the end of election night, Democrats had lost their grip in both chambers, giving Scott much more leverage. The governor, who cruised to reelection on Tuesday night, campaigned vigorously this cycle for other Republicans he said would help him bring affordability to the state.

End of link. Yeah, Vermont is moving in the right direction, but it is sad Republicans are not ruling there yet. If you watch the whole video, what really got me is how many regular citizens were scared to talk on camera about the shit conditions of Burlington. This is the Democratic douche version of justice. They can say anything about MAGA and Trump but any negatives about Democratic douches and their policies and it is misinformation that needs to be censored.

You have to wonder how many of these Democratic ciities, even smaller ones like Burlington, are this messed up. Like San Francisco, it is a beautiful city that has gone to shit.[/QUOTE]I know people that live there that say its a dystopian hellhole, and yes they are Democrats.

I wouldn't go there anymore if you paid me!! Same with Seattle, the downside they will be leaving to move to sane red states and they will fuck them up also.

No different than inner city dirtbags that move out of cities to suburbs only to decimate them too, they destroy everything they touch!!

I used to see bumper stickers in Portland please don't Californicate Portland.

Or yard signs Californians please stay out!! And these are not MAGA voters.

But hey things are looking up here in Chicago we just got rid of Soros non prosecuting prosecutor Kim Fox and we voted in Eva Brauns protege'.

[URL]https://kfoxtv.com/news/nation-world/almost-100-murder-suspects-in-chicago-allowed-to-stay-out-of-jail-under-house-arrest-cook-county-violent-crime-criminals-sheriff-tom-dart-pretrial-program[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/opinion/west-coast-liberal-failure.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/15/opinion/progressives-california-portland.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2969269]Gaetz's alleged, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.

But I'm in for the rest of it LMFAO, where do I sign up?

This is ISG after all, maybe you should get back to your nambla / feminist lesbian forums.

Gaetz for President 2028!![/QUOTE][i][b](...kkkk)[/b][/i] Contrary to popular opinion, I couldn't care less, as to how messed up, coked up, fucked up, or teen bum fucked, Gaetz wants to get at one of his drug fueled sex trafficking parties.

It still stands that his nomination for AG was just horrific, a very simple vetting or independent background check would have eliminated all the hoopla.

But if you're saying, Gaetz for President Dog Catcher in 2028, that would still be a big fat HELL NO!

BTW, whether you as an atheist, believe in HELL or not, I'm pretty sure, on more than one occasion, you yourself, have told us, there IS A HELL for pedos!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2969340]But this time around Numbskull Repub President-elect Musk, Numbskull Repub President-elect Ramaswamy and Numbskull Repub President-elect Banning have pulled the ultimate Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat Repub stunt in demanding the USA government of, by and for the American people be shutdown rather than fund Cancer Research for American children instead of plowing all the additional Trillions in deficit spending they plan to add during their presidencies giving more tax breaks to Musk, Ramaswamy and other billionaires. Makes sense.

Why doesn't the now but set to shrink even further Repub Pink Tinkle in the House call an emergency vote to elect Elon, Vivek or Steve as the first ever Speaker of the House AND President-elect so any one of them can call the shots all the way around?

The Repubs are going to need any extra hands they can scrounge up on a gavel, their dicks and balls, wherever in order to get those additional Trillions in deficit-spending never-paid-for Repub tax cuts for Elon, Vivek and their fellow billionaire cronies:

[B]Rep. Spartz wont caucus with GOP, narrowing Republican margin in House[/B]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-spartz-won-t-caucus-171900676.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Oh Yes! [B]The 118th Congress led Repub clown show[/B], is now poised to end, not with a bang, but as a Mike Johnson, christofascist whimper and a snivel. All ineptitude, buffoonery and clowning, duly predicated on and derived from the Kevin McCarthy, 15th ballot "shit show horse", Repubs rode in on.

Excellent question you pose! Will it be President-elect Musk, numbskull Repub President-elect Ramaswamy, or President-elect Trump? Or will Musk, just be a "Shadow" President and form his own "Shadow Gov't"? House Repubs, certainly liked him for Speaker of the House, which doesn't bode well for the current christofascist speaker. As all signs point to the fact, he maybe very well be on his way out.

But Yeah...the Trump/MAGA chaos, dysfunction and gov't paralysis is back!

BTW, does that mean the kids get the proverbial, "lumps of coal" for Christmas?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2969289][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/19/us/politics/voter-turnout-election-trump-harris.html[/URL]

Change in votes compared with 2020.

2. 5 million.

More votes.

For Trump.

7. 1 million.

Fewer votes for.

Harris than Biden.

Key to Trump's Win: Heavy Losses for Harris Across the Map.

By Ashley Wu, Lazaro Gamio, Robert Gebeloff, Elena Shao and Michael see. Bender Nov. 19,2024.

Share full article.

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It may seem like a clear story: Donald Trump won the election by winning the most votes. He improved on his totals, adding about 2. 5 million more votes than four years ago. But just as consequential to the outcome were Kamala Harris's losses: She earned about 7 million fewer votes compared with Joseph are. Biden Jr. 's performance in 2020.

Ms. Harris failed to find new voters in three of the seven swing states and in 80 percent of counties across the country, a New York Times analysis shows. In the places where she matched or exceeded Mr. Biden's vote totals, she failed to match Mr. Trump's gains.

Where each candidate got more votes or.

Fewer votes in 2024, compared with 2020.

Trump received 2. 5 million more votesTrump.

.

Harris received 7. 1 million fewer votesHarris.

.

We can't yet know how many Biden voters backed Mr. Trump or did not vote at all this cycle. But the decline in support for Ms. Harris in some of the country's most liberal areas is particularly notable. Compared with Mr. Biden, she lost hundreds of thousands of votes in major cities including Chicago, LOS Angeles and New York, and overall earned about 10 percent fewer votes in counties Mr. Biden won four years ago.

Mr. Trump, by contrast, found new voters in most counties, with significant gains in red states like Texas and Florida and also in blue states like New Jersey and New York.

Change in votes by county partisanship, compared with 2020.

Counties Harris Trump.

Heavily Democratic.

12%.

+3%.

Moderately Democratic.

10%.

+3%.

Lean Democratic.

6%.

+3%.

Lean Republican.

6%.

+4%.

Moderately Republican.

5%.

+3%.

Heavily Republican.

2%.

+4%.

Larry Sabato, the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, acknowledged that Biden voters who swung toward Mr. Trump played a part in Ms. Harris's loss, but pointed to low Democratic turnout as the larger factor.

"They just weren't excited," Mr. Sabato said of Democratic voters. "They were probably disillusioned by inflation, maybe the border. And they didn't have the motivation to get up and go out to vote. ".

The national rightward shift is a continuation of voting patterns seen in the last two elections. Even in his 2020 defeat, Mr. Trump found new voters across the country. (Both parties earned more votes in 2020 than in 2016.) And although Democrats outperformed expectations in 2022, when some had predicted a "red wave," they lost many voters who were dissatisfied with rising prices, pandemic-era restrictions and immigration policy.

At the local level, three distinct patterns help illustrate the overall outcome in 2024:

1. Where both candidates gained votes, but Trump gained more.

In hard-fought Georgia, both parties found new voters, but Mr. Trump outperformed Ms. Harris. For example, in Fulton County, which contains most of Atlanta, Ms. Harris gained about 4,500 votes, but Mr. Trump gained more than 7,400.

How vote totals changed in Atlanta precincts.

Where each candidate got more votes or.

Fewer votes in 2024, compared with 2020.

Trump.

Atlanta.

Buckhead.

Forest Park.

Smyrna.

Marietta.

Alpharetta.

Decatur.

East Point.

Harris.

Atlanta.

Buckhead.

Forest Park.

Smyrna.

Marietta.

Alpharetta.

Decatur.

East Point.

By Eli Murray, Elena Shao, Charlie Smart and Christine Zhang.

In addition to his gains in the Atlanta area, Mr. Trump won new voters in every other part of Georgia. He flipped the state back to Republicans after Mr. Biden's win there in 2020. He similarly outran Ms. Harris where she made gains in Wake County, and. See. , Lancaster County, Pa. , and Montgomery County, Texas.

2. Where Trump gained a little and Harris lost a little.

In Milwaukee County in swing-state Wisconsin, Ms. Harris lost 1,200 voters compared with Mr. Biden's total in 2020, while Mr. Trump gained more than 3,500.

How vote totals changed in Milwaukee precincts.

Where each candidate got more votes or.

Fewer votes in 2024, compared with 2020.

Trump.

Milwaukee.

Cudahy.

Greenfield.

Wauwatosa.

West Allis.

Shorewood.

East Side.

Lake Michigan.

Whitefish Bay.

Harris.

Milwaukee.

Cudahy.

Greenfield.

Wauwatosa.

West Allis.

Shorewood.

East Side.

Lake Michigan.

Whitefish Bay.

By Eli Murray, Elena Shao, Charlie Smart and Christine Zhang.

Ms. Harris still won the county at large, but her margins there and in other liberal enclaves of Wisconsin were not enough to hold off Mr. Trump's victories in rural, blue-collar counties that voted Republican in 2016 and 2020.

Democrats' inability to maintain their vote totals in battleground states was also apparent in the crucial areas around Charlotte, and. See. , Flint, Mich. , and Scranton, Pa.

3. Where Trump gained a little and Harris lost a lot.

Mr. Trump won Florida's Miami-Dade County, becoming the first Republican to do so since 1988. But again, Ms. Harris's loss was just as much of the story as his gain: Mr. Trump won about 70,000 new votes in the county, while she lost nearly 140,000.

How vote totals changed in Miami precincts.

Where each candidate got more votes or.

Fewer votes in 2024, compared with 2020.

Trump.

Miami.

Hialeah.

Kendall.

Coral Gables.

Harris.

Miami.

Hialeah.

Kendall.

Coral Gables.

By Eli Murray, Elena Shao, Charlie Smart and Christine Zhang.

Other counties that Mr. Trump flipped had similar vote disparities. In 21 of these 77 counties, Mr. Trump received fewer votes in this election than in 2020, but the Democratic vote drop-off was much steeper. This happened from coast to coast, from Fresno County, Calif. , to Pinellas County, Fla.

Joel Benenson, the chief pollster for Barack Obama's presidential campaigns, said he thought Democratic turnout was hurt by the party's lack of a presidential primary. (Mr. Biden dropped out of the race in July.) That process, he said, helps energize core voters who get involved with volunteering, making phone calls and knocking on doors early in the year.

"That was a real challenge for Vice President Harris, who had a short runway and would have benefited from a real primary season," Mr. Benenson said. "Republicans had a contested primary even with a former president, they didn't just hand it to him. ".

Mr. Trump was clearly able to harness enthusiasm beyond his base. He made gains across almost all groups ranging in demographics, education and income, including those that traditionally made up the Democratic coalition. Ms. Harris failed to match Mr. Biden among the same groups.

Change in votes by county type, compared with 2020.

Counties Harris Trump.

Majority Black.

12%.

4%.

Majority Hispanic.

18%.

+7%.

Urban.

12%.

+3%.

High income.

9%.

+3%.

Highly educated.

9%.

+3%.

Retirement destinations.

2%.

+8%.

Pre-election polls showed minority voters swinging toward Mr. Trump, and he appeared to make gains with those groups. He picked up votes in majority-Hispanic counties and in Black neighborhoods of major cities, a preliminary analysis of precinct data shows. But he lost votes, as did Ms. Harris, in majority-Black counties, especially those in the South where turnout dropped overall.

Mr. Trump found new voters in more than 30 states, including in the battleground states that were the sites of robust campaigning. His gains were modest in most other places. Ms. Harris was able to improve on Mr. Biden's performance in only four of the seven battlegrounds and just five states overall.

Change in votes by state, compared with 2020.

Click columns to sort. Swing states are in bold.

States Harris Trump.

Arizona.

5%.

+6%.

Georgia.

+3%.

+8%.

Michigan.

3%.

+6%.

North Carolina.

+1%.

+5%.

Nevada.

+0. 2%.

+12%.

Pennsylvania.

1%.

+5%.

Wisconsin.

+2%.

+5%.

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John McLaughlin, Mr. Trump's campaign pollster, said the campaign was focused on finding supporters who were not reliable voters and making sure they turned out to the polls. He said that internal polling showed that voters who cast a ballot in 2024 after not voting in 2022 or 2020 supported Mr. Trump, 52 percent to 46 percent.

"The strategy was very much like 2016, to bring out casual voters who thought the country was on the wrong track," Mr. McLaughlin said. "These voters blamed Biden and Harris and generally had positive approval for Trump. ".[/QUOTE]This was as of 2-3 days ago. But a few votes up or down here and there since then won't change the reality of this much if at all.

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[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election[/URL]

[B]Pennsylvania:[/B]

3,543,308 votes for Trump.

3,423,042 votes for Harris.

Trump advantage in PA was 120,226 votes or 1. 7 point more.

[B]Michigan:[/B]

2,816,636 votes for Trump.

2,736,533 votes for Harris.

Trump advantage in MI was 80,103 or 1. 4 point more.

[B]Wisconsin:[/B]

1,697,626 votes for Trump.

1,668,229 votes for Harris.

Trump advantage in MI was 29,397 votes or 0. 9 point.

Total advantage for Trump in PA, MI and WI was 229,726 votes.

If half of those 229,729 voters had been convinced to vote for Harris instead of Trump in those three Battleground / Swing States where each candidate went to battle to swing votes to them by campaigning and ad buys more than any other three states, approximately 114,864 votes (or 0. 9 point, 0. 7 point and 0. 5 point), plus one additional vote in each of the three states = 114,867, Kamala Harris would be the President-election today instead of Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy and Steve Bannon and none of those other demographics you cited above would have changed it or mattered.

There are hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters in those three decisive states. Both nominees worked to win their votes because they knew that demo could be the decisive one. The Muslim Community leaders in those states mobilized and applied every Ground Game tactic to convince their community to deny Harris the presidency because they were angry, Netanyahu-haters who extrapolated the Biden Administration's support for Israel in the conflict with Gaza as support for Netanyahu.

It is almost impossible to imagine that at least 114,867 of those hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters in those three states did not follow their Leadership's requests.

That is the demo that "gave the presidency" to, well, now to Musk, Ramaswamy and Bannon in the only three states necessary for them to do it. They have claimed that as their doing. Trump has acknowledged their incomparable contribution to giving the presidency to, well, now Musk, Ramaswamy and Bannon.

The Kremlin, China, North Korea and, oh that's right, Iran thank you for your and their vote.

Well, unless you are an angry Muslim in one of those three states that voted for Trump instead of Harris, The Kremlin, China, North Korea and Iran can only thank you for giving Trump 1. 47 point more votes than Harris nationally, although not the Majority of the Vote.

The Trump Train. Er, I mean Musk / Ramaswamy / Bannon Train:

[QUOTE=Spidy;2969435]Contrary to popular opinion, I couldn't care less, as to how messed up, coked up, fucked up, or teen bum fucked, Gaetz wants to get at one of his drug fueled sex trafficking parties.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you no longer live in the USA. If you did, you would not want Gaetz disqualified for personal reasons. Namely you are a horndog monger. With your being out of the country, all you care about is your social security check.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2969435]It still stands that his nomination for AG was just horrific, a very simple vetting or independent background check would have eliminated all the hoopla.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, it is so simple. Nothing like a monger criticizing a guy who banged a lying 17 year old hooker with a fake ID. And why are YOU not worried about that? Oh right. You no longer live here. You do not care about the laws of the USA and what it is like to live there. All you care about is your check.

If this were a moral crusade and you were not such a partisan Democratic douche, you would be holding the Bidens and Clintons to the same standards. Instead you play your moronic partisan games. Gaetz was as bad as Epstien. Hunter bravely stood trial. Give me a fucking break. Gaetz was not convicted. Hunter was. Biden abused the legal system so much the woman who accused him of raping her is in Russia. His own daughter wrote in her diary that Joe Biden was showering with her in her teen years. The hair sniffing Joe Biden is a fucking perv, and everyone knows it.

Why do you push the abortion and IVF issue so badly Soy Boy? Oh right, I forgot. You do not live her. I am all for women's rights as long as that helps me get my fucking check.

If you did live here, you would want a Gaetz, a guy who hobbied but stayed in the gray areas of the law. Why is it so black and white for you? Because you do not live here and just want your check.

With you and Loony Tooms, I think we should actually start means testing guys with social security payouts. Why should you get the full amount if you live abroad and expenses are cheaper? Hey, let's cut off payments if any social security recepient is banging foreign hookers. Oh yeah, you two are so fucking moral and law abiding. Would you be for that?

The difference between Dems and Republicans is Republicans pay for their own hookers. Dems like Willie Brown, Fani Willis, and Bill Clinton use public funds to pay the people they sleep with. Hunter used bribes meant for his father to pay for his hoors. I guess you are one in the same Spidy: letting government pay for yours too. Keep patting yourself on the back and telling the world what a moral good boy you are.

I cannot believe a monger like yourself could be such a hypocrite and criticize Gaetz. He is the exact kind of AG mongers should want, you fool.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2969483]This was as of 2-3 days ago. But a few votes up or down here and there since then won't change the reality of this much if at all.

Scroll down to Results.

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election[/URL]

[B]Pennsylvania:[/B]

3,543,308 votes for Trump.

3,423,042 votes for Harris.

Trump advantage in PA was 120,226 votes or 1. 7 point more.

[B]Michigan:[/B]

2,816,636 votes for Trump.

2,736,533 votes for Harris.

Trump advantage in MI was 80,103 or 1. 4 point more.

[B]Wisconsin:[/B]

1,697,626 votes for Trump.

1,668,229 votes for Harris.

Trump advantage in MI was 29,397 votes or 0. 9 point.

Total advantage for Trump in PA, MI and WI was 229,726 votes.

If half of those 229,729 voters had been convinced to vote for Harris instead of Trump in those three Battleground / Swing States where each candidate went to battle to swing votes to them by campaigning and ad buys more than any other three states, approximately 114,864 votes (or 0. 9 point, 0. 7 point and 0. 5 point), plus one additional vote in each of the three states = 114,867, Kamala Harris would be the President-election today instead of Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy and Steve Bannon and none of those other demographics you cited above would have changed it or mattered.

There are hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters in those three decisive states. Both nominees worked to win their votes because they knew that demo could be the decisive one. The Muslim Community leaders in those states mobilized and applied every Ground Game tactic to convince their community to deny Harris the presidency because they were angry, Netanyahu-haters who extrapolated the Biden Administration's support for Israel in the conflict with Gaza as support for Netanyahu.

It is almost impossible to imagine that at least 114,867 of those hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters in those three states did not follow their Leadership's requests.

That is the demo that "gave the presidency" to, well, now to Musk, Ramaswamy and Bannon in the only three states necessary for them to do it. They have claimed that as their doing. Trump has acknowledged their incomparable contribution to giving the presidency to, well, now Musk, Ramaswamy and Bannon.

The Kremlin, China, North Korea and, oh that's right, Iran thank you for your and their vote.

Well, unless you are an angry Muslim in one of those three states that voted for Trump instead of Harris, The Kremlin, China, North Korea and Iran can only thank you for giving Trump 1. 47 point more votes than Harris nationally, although not the Majority of the Vote.

The Trump Train. Er, I mean Musk / Ramaswamy / Bannon Train:[/QUOTE]I don't agree with your nonsensical post as usual, she was never holding the entire blue wall LMAO she couldn't even hold one of the states.

Of 7 swing states? How many did she win ZERO! He took every single one of them which makes your post that much, more ridiculous.

But if if if if if if if if.