Santo Domingo

I love to fuck non-pros. But I never have enough time to foster a relationship (nor enough energy to break up with a sweet young girl).

I used to be able to pick up chicas for a hookup on El Conde by chatting with them and perhaps buying them some shoes and / or other clothing. I speak Spanish fluently, but with a distinct gringo accent. Times have changed, and while El Conde is not exactly a high class place (the only thing different about El Conde in the last 10 years is more fast food places), there are not too many chicas there of quality who are window shopping.

Is there a shopping plaza in Sto Domingo where I might pick up a chica who is window shopping but might consider a fling with a generous benefactor? The only mall I know is Galleria 360, but I have yet to have success there. Maybe I need to put more effort and time into my search.

Any suggestions would be welcome.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2713159]Is there a shopping plaza in Sto Domingo where I might pick up a chica who is window shopping but might consider a fling with a generous benefactor? The only mall I know is Galleria 360, but I have yet to have success there. Maybe I need to put more effort and time into my search.[/QUOTE]This place does not exist. Why do foreigners think there are just pools of women in foreign countries hanging out at malls waiting to be swept off their feet (or paid) by gringos? What you saw is just what there is. Normal people out shopping and going to the movies and shit. It is the same as home. Are you home walking into a mall and getting chicks to follow you home for free or for money? If not, then do not expect it anywhere else. Of course you can meet chicks and exchange numbers in hopes of getting to know each other or whatever. But nobody is following you back to your hotel to fuck. Get those fantasies out of your head.

*Only exceptions are in Philippines. Robinsons in Manila and Ayala in Cebu there were actual hookers hanging out in designated areas to be picked up by foreigners. But as far as going to pick up a normal girl that place does not exist.

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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2713126]I tried to send you a pm and got the message " OldKool has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."

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Preface: First time flyer, first time flying international, no Spanish.

My goal was to land, get a SIM card, get 10,000 pesos, Uber to Airbnb, and call someone over. Here's how it ended up.

Started off having to drive 2 hours to my connecting flight so I don't miss it. Only to find out that flight got delayed in the end too and probably could have made it. Up to me landing in Santo Domingo, I was hitting 24 hours of no sleep and mentally drained from all the checks, clearances, and started getting hungry. 2 am - 12:32 pm.

Came out the terminal and spotted the Claro station. It was at this point that it dawned on me that I couldn't find my wallet. This one really got my survival instincts and blood pumping. The last time I remember seeing it was when I emptied my pockets going through metal detectors in the United States. I had $50 dollars in various bills for tipping purposes on me so for the sim with that.

Met this kid working at the phone place next to claro. He went above and beyond to help me and was the sole reason that I got out that place and reached my Airbnb. He studies English and was better than anyone I met so far in that place. Blew my mind that he was working customer service. Anyways, this was about 4 hours of brainstorming / and figuring out way to get cash from my phone since the main bank was closed on Sunday. Lucky me.

Thanks to his wifi access I was able to get a Uber after the 4th attempt using my main phone because I still had my card info connected to Uber. The idea was that I'll get to the high speed internet at my Airbnb, buy food with Uber eats, come back tomorrow to transfer money to a new bank account here so I can wire money through. Then comes the best part.

It's now around 5:30 pm. I reach my Airbnb. After some extensive use of my translator app. The clerk was able to lead me to my room and help me with anything I need. I ordered some food and was ready to take a shower and sleep. Started unpacking everything then ABRA FUCKING CADABRA my wallet ends up appearing in a random pouch compartment that I no memory or knowledge putting it in. (at the terminal, couldn't figure out why I had only my ID in my pocket when I took it out my wallet before the security check).

Best place to run day game in my opinion is Mega Centro. I personally know people that like Agora. Sambil. Worst place is Blue Mall. Bela Vista is not great either.

All of them have a food court, coffee shop, bar that serves drinks. We are talking regular pick up mode. You have game, language skills, dress nice.

Use the search function brother. People have written about Agora and Mega Centro in the forums. Remember to filter out the attitudes of the experienced people that spend more time expressing their opinion than providing useable intelligence for when you have "boots on the ground". Some seem to constantly visit the Dominican Republic, but seem to only have negative things to say about it.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2713159]I love to fuck non-pros. But I never have enough time to foster a relationship (nor enough energy to break up with a sweet young girl).

I used to be able to pick up chicas for a hookup on El Conde by chatting with them and perhaps buying them some shoes and / or other clothing. I speak Spanish fluently, but with a distinct gringo accent. Times have changed, and while El Conde is not exactly a high class place (the only thing different about El Conde in the last 10 years is more fast food places), there are not too many chicas there of quality who are window shopping.

Is there a shopping plaza in Sto Domingo where I might pick up a chica who is window shopping but might consider a fling with a generous benefactor? The only mall I know is Galleria 360, but I have yet to have success there. Maybe I need to put more effort and time into my search.

Any suggestions would be welcome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2713233]This place does not exist. Why do foreigners think there are just pools of women in foreign countries hanging out at malls waiting to be swept off their feet (or paid) by gringos? What you saw is just what there is. Normal people out shopping and going to the movies and shit. It is the same as home. Are you home walking into a mall and getting chicks to follow you home for free or for money? If not, then do not expect it anywhere else. Of course you can meet chicks and exchange numbers in hopes of getting to know each other or whatever. But nobody is following you back to your hotel to fuck. Get those fantasies out of your head.

*Only exceptions are in Philippines. Robinsons in Manila and Ayala in Cebu there were actual hookers hanging out in designated areas to be picked up by foreigners. But as far as going to pick up a normal girl that place does not exist.[/QUOTE]It used to be pretty easy to pick up a chica on El Conde. Not as many girls had phiones back then, so there were different logistics to take into account. I assumed the girls were the same, but the location had changed. I guess times have changed (as they always will).

That being said, I have left my WhatsApp on a card with the check after a nice meal a few times, and about 15% of the time, I get a call from a waitress. I don't ask them to come to my place to fuck, but rather to go out for a drink. That approach wouldn't work well in the USA either, but it does in the DR (correct me if I am wrong! There are lots of similarities between the DR and home, but it is still 10,000 times easier to meet a non-pro girl for sexual congress in the DR than NYC, LA or Chicago.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2713442]It used to be pretty easy to pick up a chica on El Conde.[/QUOTE]There are still a couple of hookers to pick up on El Conde.

[QUOTE=Cam442;2713410]Started unpacking everything then ABRA FUCKING CADABRA my wallet ends up appearing in a random pouch compartment that I no memory or knowledge putting it in.[/QUOTE]LOL. It is always the last place you put it.

I have read and digested Mr Enternational's criticism of the naïve gringo (me) who (according to Mr E) believes there are a horde of chicas looking for guys like me for paid sex. I am not actually naïve, nor inexperienced in the DR. I have been to Santo Domingo at least 50 times, always on business, and have a well-established pipeline of chicas I can tap into if I get lonely. These girls are all non pros from San Pedro de Marcoris (and a few from Sto Domingo), and they always have willing friends to introduce to me. But typical of my gender, I am always looking for something new.

I am interested in non-pros, and would like to try and hookup with someone on my own. I am not certain if I "have game", but I am willing to take no for an answer and try again until I have success. I am never rude to chicas, so I am never ashamed of my actions.

But, I do not live in the DR, which puts me at a disadvantage. I assume Mr E lives there and knows the territory like the back of his hand. (an aside: Mr E, is this true? Do you live in the DR? If so, where?

Most importantly, where would you go for a daytime pickup of a non pro in Sto Domingo?

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2713598]I have read and digested Mr Enternational's criticism of the nave gringo (me) who (according to Mr E) believes there are a horde of chicas looking for guys like me for paid sex. I am not actually nave, nor inexperienced in the DR. I have been to Santo Domingo at least 50 times, always on business, and have a well-established pipeline of chicas I can tap into if I get lonely. These girls are all non pros from San Pedro de Marcoris (and a few from Sto Domingo), and they always have willing friends to introduce to me.[/QUOTE]It looks like you are using Trip's definition of non-pro. To me a non-pro (non-prostitute) is a chick that does not fuck for money. So it sounds weird for you to say you are looking for chicks that don't fuck for money so that you can pay them for sex. But the game is online now. Tinder, Cupid, Skokka. And of course the old word of mouth. You say you are already plugged in with chicks that will introduce you to other chicks. Why not continue to use them?

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2713598]But, I do not live in the DR, which puts me at a disadvantage. I assume Mr E lives there and knows the territory like the back of his hand. (an aside: Mr E, is this true? Do you live in the DR?[/QUOTE]No I live in Thailand, but I do know DR like the back of my hand. I look back and am amazed at how I used to get around the place before GPS was a normal thing.

You are not inexperienced in the DR so what kind of disadvantage are you believing not living there puts you in? I have never lived there nor felt I was at some type of disadvantage because I did not. And this is especially true if you plan on using money to get what you want. I don't think those type of chicks care about where you live as much as they care about the money that you give. But you are experienced and know this already.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2713598]Most importantly, where would you go for a daytime pickup of a non pro in Sto Domingo[/QUOTE]Again, if you are talking about some place where a bunch of chicks that are supposedly not hookers are gathering waiting on tricks (or non-tricks rather) to come pick them up then that place does not exist. If you are talking about seeing a chick and saying Hello, I would like to get to know you, let's exchange phone numbers, then literally everywhere. Usually people with a well-established pipeline of chicks do not come asking where to get more chicks. They would just get them from the same place their well-established pipeline came from.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2713591]There are still a couple of hookers to pick up on El Conde.[/QUOTE]There are always hookers on El Conde. I am not looking for hookers, but non (or semi_ pros. Most Dominicanas are interested in men with money, but only a few actually ask for money up front. Some are playing the long game, and not a day goes by when I don't get a WhatsApp from a Dominicana asking me to send a Western Union / Moneygram from the USA because of a sudden unexpected financial emergency. I only give in when I expect to get paid back with some hot sex on my next trip (I usually trade small gifts for promises of trios. This has proved to work well).

But I am looking to meet new non pros. My established ones are fun, but I like the chase. I do not like bars as new venues because I cannot hear the chicas speak Spanish over the sound of the music and I do not dance, which frankly is a huge disadvantage in a bar.

Of course, I can always meet chicas online-this is easy and 99% successful (advice to the newbie, if you really want to get laid on your first trip, go to Badoo, Tagged or Dominican Cupid and arrange a few dates. Start your conversations with respect but when you agree on a time and place, don't forget to remind the chica to bring a toothbrush and a bikini for the first date. They will figure out what that means without having to say, "I want to see you naked and fuck on our first date."

I woke up feeling refreshed. Went to colonial zone to explore and get breakfast while casually combing through my list of contacts I gathered from tinder beforehand. A lot of top diamond chicks in my list are falling through because they want 150-300 $. Not going to lie, might take one up towards the end of stay.

After a while, my phone started getting too low so I took a Uber back to my Airbnb. First Uber driver that was committed to having a conversation with me haha (decided not to where a mask this time). I'm getting used to using the translator app, but dam. You guys make it sound easy LOL. He ended up having good conversation and he gave me some advice on the women. He ended up taking me to bluemall, told me where to geto go and waited outside for me. Came back and gave him 500 pesos total for all the help and drive. He said he can drive me to any casa and wait for me. We exchange numbers.

I switched things up and started looking through Skokka at Airbnb. Went for a massage 4 hand erotic massage with hair removal. I decided to walk there because it was 10 min away. Greeted by chicas at front. One lightskinned with a big ass for her size and a natural dark skinned. Gave me a shot and they delivered on what they promised. Ended up giving me a handjob during the session a realized I forgot to ask about how I was going to bust a load LOL. 1 hour 25 min experience for 7500 pesos.

Walk back and ordered UberEATS. Idk what is, but every place I ordered from so was either not really good or the portion is smaller than you expect. Ordered empanadas and they had the tiniest bit of meat paste in bite sized shell.

Chicas hitting me up, none giving me a reasonable price. They want more than the pros with none of the additions. Negotiated with a pro from Chiviricas. She wanted 4500 + additional for taxi; a hour massage / bbj / FS with condom. I ended up passing. I was too tired to negotiate further and didn't feel like it was worth risking my Airbnb stay.

I went down to the front desk guy and ask him what he would do if I bring a chica here. He said if she my friend then he just bring her up. That's it, LOL. This can be very good or very bad (Host told me they must be announced to them 24 hours before arrival with ID and full name. Only then the front will be able to let them in and allow up. This was added in the massages and wasn't stated in the posted ad.) I have a angel and devil talking in my ear on what I should do.

This V chica from who was asking from Tinder who previously wanted 5 k passages me again. She was messaging me constantly since I landed. I told her what I wanted for 4 k / hour and she agreed to it all. I decided to use my place a hotel palacio for the late morning activities instead of my nice Airbnb.

Long story short, I got hit was every trick in the book by her. She ask for money for taxi, wants Leche 5 min in. Did not do what we agreed on. Takes a 10 min shower after being there for 20 min. Then wants to go get something to eat after. Mind you, this V had some top notch performance with smiles and giggles throughout. I said no and told her she can go. If your new, use my post as a lesson like me. As SubCmdr mentioned to me, I shoulda vetted her better at a nearby place and started with 2 k pesos + 500 if I like her, instead of going off her price. Most important, never let anyone control any situation.

Went to get something to eat and started exploring as a tourist in the colonial zone. I felt like I needed to slow down on the mongering for the rest of the day. How these Dominicans drive is the biggest culture shock to me LOL. After a few hours, I went back to my Airbnb. Idk what the desk guy seen when he looked at me but he reminded me there was a gym on the 10th floor. Worked out for 2 hours while vibing to some music. Enjoyed some ribs and presidente then went to my balcony to chill. The change of pace felt really nice.

Can happen to anyone. Tinder girls can be hardcore so you have to be careful. Most hardcore girls will say what ever is required to get your money and do as little as possible. The Cupid girls try to hide if they are pros and will play it a little straight a bit and provide a different experoence. I stay away from tinder and call out services. Not sure how to Vet girls on the call out services. Vetting is something that's makes a huge difference.

[QUOTE=Cam442;2714230]This V chica from who was asking from Tinder who previously wanted 5 k passages me again. She was messaging me constantly since I landed. I told her what I wanted for 4 k / hour and she agreed to it all. I decided to use my place a hotel palacio for the late morning activities instead of my nice Airbnb.

Long story short, I got hit was every trick in the book by her. She ask for money for taxi, wants Leche 5 min in. Did not do what we agreed on. Takes a 10 min shower after being there for 20 min. Then wants to go get something to eat after. Mind you, this V had some top notch performance with smiles and giggles throughout. I said no and told her she can go. If your new, use my post as a lesson like me. As SubCmdr mentioned to me, I shoulda vetted her better at a nearby place and started with 2 k pesos + 500 if I like her, instead of going off her price. Most important, never let anyone control any situation.

Went to get something to eat and started exploring as a tourist in the colonial zone. I felt like I needed to slow down on the mongering for the rest of the day. How these Dominicans drive is the biggest culture shock to me LOL. After a few hours, I went back to my Airbnb. Idk what the desk guy seen when he looked at me but he reminded me there was a gym on the 10th floor. Worked out for 2 hours while vibing to some music. Enjoyed some ribs and presidente then went to my balcony to chill. The change of pace felt really nice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cam442;2714230]This V chica from who was asking from Tinder who previously wanted 5 k passages me again. She was messaging me constantly since I landed. I told her what I wanted for 4 k / hour and she agreed to it all. I decided to use my place a hotel palacio for the late morning activities instead of my nice Airbnb.

Long story short, I got hit was every trick in the book by her. She ask for money for taxi, wants Leche 5 min in. Did not do what we agreed on. Takes a 10 min shower after being there for 20 min. Then wants to go get something to eat after. Mind you, this V had some top notch performance with smiles and giggles throughout. I said no and told her she can go. If your new, use my post as a lesson like me. As SubCmdr mentioned to me, I shoulda vetted her better at a nearby place and started with 2 k pesos + 500 if I like her, instead of going off her price. Most important, never let anyone control any situation.

Went to get something to eat and started exploring as a tourist in the colonial zone. I felt like I needed to slow down on the mongering for the rest of the day. How these Dominicans drive is the biggest culture shock to me LOL. After a few hours, I went back to my Airbnb. Idk what the desk guy seen when he looked at me but he reminded me there was a gym on the 10th floor. Worked out for 2 hours while vibing to some music. Enjoyed some ribs and presidente then went to my balcony to chill. The change of pace felt really nice.[/QUOTE]Defintitely try to negotiate more with thr goal to pay only half or 2/3 for their ask prices.

I suggest you also try to visit oasis or foxis mainly to see the quality for girls that ask $100 for an hour. You are already paying close to that so doesn't hurt to check them out and maybe you can try a girl there. But those places are managed by huslers. Only spend money on your drink and the $100 for the girl you like. And use uber if you take a girl home. Don't use those cab drivers outside.

Also try GBP. The rooms are dumps, but you can also seat at the bar. The objective here is for you to see decent to nice girls that charge 2500 pesos for two girls. I think one girl is 1500 pesos for 30 min. Those girls have energy try to get you to nut fast but will usually not rush you or have bad attitude.

On sokkha website, send messages to most of girls you like, and just start to negotiate and ask for pictures and location. There are many full service massage places in santo domingo este where you can pay 2000 to 2500 pesos.