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[QUOTE=Spidy;2969435][i][b](...kkkk)[/b][/i] Contrary to popular opinion, I couldn't care less, as to how messed up, coked up, fucked up, or teen bum fucked, Gaetz wants to get at one of his drug fueled sex trafficking parties.

It still stands that his nomination for AG was just horrific, a very simple vetting or independent background check would have eliminated all the hoopla.

But if you're saying, Gaetz for President Dog Catcher in 2028, that would still be a big fat HELL NO!

BTW, whether you as an atheist, believe in HELL or not, I'm pretty sure, on more than one occasion, you yourself, have told us, there IS A HELL for pedos![/QUOTE]That you'll be going there!!

Just Remember Roevember!

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Deport the Pandas.

Giant male panda Xiao Liwu eats a meal of bamboo at the San Diego Zoo in San Diego, Calif. , April 18,2019.

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By Mark Antonio Wright.

December 19,2024 6:17 PM.

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The New York Times has a big report up today on how the Chinese Communist Party has used panda bears to gain favor and influence with local American officials, including San Francisco mayor London Breed.

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"Her city's zoo was faltering," Mara Hvistendahl, Heather Knight, and Vik Jolly write. "Tourism was suffering and Breed faced a tough re-election campaign. ".

Mayor Breed therefore decided to carry out months of negotiations with Beijing, all without the help of USA Counterintelligence agencies who could have helped protect her, in an effort to curry favor with the highest levels of the Chinese Communist Party. Breed visited China, meeting with its vice president and deputy foreign minister. She traveled with Chinese-government-aligned journalists. And she cultivated a relationship with the "Chinese People's Association for Friendship with Foreign Countries," a Chinese Communist Party–aligned foreign-influence organization that has about as Orwellian a name as could be thought of.

What was the Chinese bargaining chip? Ailuropoda melanoleuca a. K. a. The Giant Panda.

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More specifically, the peculiar American obsession with those cuddly looking but very nefarious beasts.

"A pair of pandas from China would be a political and public relations win" for London Breed, the Times writes dryly.

Americans should make no mistake: Panda diplomacy — I. E. , the effort by your local zoo to put a panda in a cage in your hometown — is a communist influence operation that uses Americans' emotions, love of animals, and their goodwill against them.

As the Times reports, "Chinese officials have sought to use pandas to cultivate relationships, shape policy on Taiwan and soften China's image abroad, a major goal of Mr. Xi. Panda exchanges provide Chinese leaders with rare, high-profile opportunities to rebrand their country. ".

Oh, but surely — skeptics might say — this doesn't have any real-world implications? Small-bit American politicians such as London Breed might embarrass themselves by groveling to Xi Jinping to get a panda or two, but what's the harm?

Well. . .

During panda negotiations with Omaha and with Oakland in the mid-2000's, Chinese diplomats tried to scuttle a Nebraskan trade deal with Taiwan and to persuade a California congresswoman to stop criticizing Beijing, negotiators for the American side said. When those efforts failed, China denied pandas to both cities.

And:

In 2022, the American director of national intelligence warned statehouses and city halls that China had "stepped up its efforts to cultivate USA State and local leaders in a strategy some have described as 'using the local to surround the central. '" Intelligence officials cited the friendship group as part of that effort.

Why should we doubt that the Chinese Communist Party — which never told the truth about the origins of the Covid pandemic and is currently busy hacking into American telecom systems, running a massive influence op on Americans via TikTok, crushing the last vestiges of liberty in Hong Kong, ruling a slave state in Xinjiang province with an iron fist, and arming itself to the teeth in preparation for war against the United States and Taiwan — would shrink from using pandas as a tool for national power?

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And let us dispense with the idea that while "panda diplomacy" might be bad for America, it's at least good for the pandas. It's not!

Pandas are the face of wildlife conservation. Zoos pay about $1 million a year to rent them from China and breed them in captivity, in hopes that pandas will someday be released into the wild. China is supposed to use the money to protect the wild species.

But a New York Times investigation this year revealed that after three decades, China has actually captured more pandas than it has released. And aggressive artificial breeding has injured and even killed pandas. China has steered millions of dollars toward building infrastructure such as apartments and roads as American zoo administrators and regulators looked the other way.

It's long past time to put a stop to this evil game. The importation of pandas has never done anything but weaken America and cozy our people up to the communist dictatorship in Beijing — a dictatorship that wishes for nothing but our ruin and which has the blood of hundreds of millions on its hands.

Should a free, democratic China on the mainland ever exist, all Americans would be happy to welcome pandas back to our lands.

But until then, we should put an end to "Panda Diplomacy. " Put an end to the subversion of America that has been propagated via the cuddly paws of those white-and-black spooks.

Deport the commie spies. Deport the pandas.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2969157]LOL. I am not sure what you expected.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/biden-lied-about-everything-philly-fed-finds-all-jobs-created-q2-were-fake[/URL]

So after Biden lied about creating nearly one million jobs in 2023, his labor department lied again in Q2 2024.

And so, after it first revised the 12 months ending March 31 by 818 K, the downgrades extended into the second quarter of 2024, when the Philadelphia Fed early benchmark estimates showed that instead of the 1. 1% gain shown initially by the BLS, payroll jobs in the 50 states and the District of Columbia were actually down 0. 1%!

We do know that all the jobs reportedly "created" in the second quarter, were actually fake, there were no net jobs created at all, and in fact, the US lost jobs in Q2!

Translation: in his latest attempt to create an impression of economic growth, Biden lied about everything, again.

End of link. And keep in mind these job losses came despite record deficits with Biden creating as many bullshit federal jobs as he could.

Then you had Loony Tooms not only bragging about the great job market but saying crime was down.[/QUOTE]Yes Elvis, this is common knowledge, the downward revisions in employment numbers and the high % of "jobs added" that were government workers. It's also common knowledge that inflation and higher interest rates hurt Democrats in last month's election. Don't expect Tooms to appreciate that though. He grabs onto every data point that supports Democrats and discards every one that doesn't. He's hung his hat on spurious correlations between employment, GDP growth, and the party of the president. As such, it wasn't an uncontrollable Chinese virus that caused the pandemic and the related recession, it was Trump. I imagine he'd blame the 1980 recession during Carter's term on high oil prices. And totally ignore the effect of oil price on recessions in 1981 (starting six months after Carter left office) and 1990, when Reagan and GHW Bush were president.

So don't sweat silly factors like demographics, changes in technology, globalization, the business cycle, Fed policy, what's happening in the rest of the world outside the USA, wars, commodity price shocks, Congress, or pandemics. All you have to remember is God hates Republican presidents!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2969157]The merging of public and private, the use of NGOs funded by government doing things the government cannot do WAS Biden's and Obama's economic policy and just like the USSR and China, it had its early successes. At first the productive people try to make it work. But with productive people like the Vermont shopkeeper, it only works if he stays on. Once the productive people catch on they are being lied to and used, the system falls apart.

So the better question to ask Loony Tooms is how is the Biden-Obama economic policy any different than the CCP because I do not see much difference at all. With China, they are on the verge of collapse with most every productive person looking to park their capital abroad. The rich Chinese are overpaying for foreign assets just to have them outside of the greedy hands of the CCP.

As it stands now, the move of the productive from blue to red states was on. With Biden, the next phase was their moving out of the country.

When you look at shit cities like Burlington VT or San Francisco, you can only lie and blame MAGA and Trump for so long. Eventually the Democrats and their shit economic policies come home to roost.[/QUOTE]

I was prepared to leave in the event Democrats swept the 2024 elections and took complete control of the federal government. Things didn't get extremely bad, except for the deficit spending and inflation in 2021 and 2022. But with rational moderates like Sinema and Manchin becoming increasingly rare in the Democratic Party, it's going to be a whole different world if the current breed of Democrats take control and hold if for 10 or 20 years. The USA will become Sirioja's wet dream. France on Steroids.

I did watch the first 15 minutes of the video. I felt sorry for the Lebanese businessman. He pays a million a year in property taxes and can't get the police to show up. I'm sure Elizabeth Warren would say he doesn't pay his fair share.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2969157]There is a great youtube video on the subject about Burlington, VT here, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2lA_DsvuvY[/URL].

The title is They Ruined My Hometown. Don't Let This Happen to Yours (Burlington, VT) 🇺127480;.

You do not have to watch the whole video. The first 15 minutes with the shop keeper is enough. He describes how the homeless think stealing from his store became a right when Biden came into office. In fact, that was the real Biden strategy, using the homeless and illegals to outvote guys like the shopkeeper. This is where Democrats fall on their face with rule of law. They will make up some shit law with Trump and bend themselves all out of shape when a Congressman fucks a lying 17 year old hooker with a fake ID, both victimless crimes, but when the homeless steal, that is okay.

They will also turn a blind eye to the homeless smoking crack in front of the town's church and for some reason even in deep blue Vermont, all this criminal activity somehow is the fault of the MAGA movement and Trump.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2969429]I know people that live there (Portland, Oregon) that say its a dystopian hellhole, and yes they are Democrats.

I wouldn't go there anymore if you paid me!! Same with Seattle, the downside they will be leaving to move to sane red states and they will fuck them up also.

No different than inner city dirtbags that move out of cities to suburbs only to decimate them too, they destroy everything they touch!!

I used to see bumper stickers in Portland please don't Californicate Portland.

Or yard signs Californians please stay out!! And these are not MAGA voters.

But hey things are looking up here in Chicago we just got rid of Soros non prosecuting prosecutor Kim Fox and we voted in Eva Brauns protege'.

[URL]https://kfoxtv.com/news/nation-world/almost-100-murder-suspects-in-chicago-allowed-to-stay-out-of-jail-under-house-arrest-cook-county-violent-crime-criminals-sheriff-tom-dart-pretrial-program[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/opinion/west-coast-liberal-failure.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/15/opinion/progressives-california-portland.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2969209]Bernie Sanders country is going red and jumping on the Trump train also.[/QUOTE]I wake up every morning and thank God I've lived in a red city in a red county in a red state. Republicans are so much more efficient at administering local government than Progressives. Elvis, I'm not sure what part of the Great State you live in, but there are certain red towns in Texas that are completely surrounded by blue cities. Dallas and Highland Park come to mind. Property values are much higher in the red towns, in part because of more effective city government and policing, and better quality schools.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2969570]Yes Elvis, this is common knowledge, the downward revisions in employment numbers and the high % of "jobs added" that were government workers. It's also common knowledge that inflation and higher interest rates hurt Democrats in last month's election. Don't expect Tooms to appreciate that though. He grabs onto every data point that supports Democrats and discards every one that doesn't. He's hung his hat on spurious correlations between employment, GDP growth, and the party of the president. As such, it wasn't an uncontrollable Chinese virus that caused the pandemic and the related recession, it was Trump. I imagine he'd blame the 1980 recession during Carter's term on high oil prices. And totally ignore the effect of oil price on recessions in 1981 (starting six months after Carter left office) and 1990, when Reagan and GHW Bush were president.

So don't sweat silly factors like demographics, changes in technology, globalization, the business cycle, Fed policy, what's happening in the rest of the world outside the USA, wars, commodity price shocks, Congress, or pandemics. All you have to remember is God hates Republican presidents!



I was prepared to leave in the event Democrats swept the 2024 elections and took complete control of the federal government. Things didn't get extremely bad, except for the deficit spending and inflation in 2021 and 2022. But with rational moderates like Sinema and Manchin becoming increasingly rare in the Democratic Party, it's going to be a whole different world if the current breed of Democrats take control and hold if for 10 or 20 years. The USA will become Sirioja's wet dream. France on Steroids.

I did watch the first 15 minutes of the video. I felt sorry for the Lebanese businessman. He pays a million a year in property taxes and can't get the police to show up. I'm sure Elizabeth Warren would say he doesn't pay his fair share.[/QUOTE]It was an uncontrollable Chinese virus that caused a pandemic, made uncontrollable by January 2020 due to Donald Trump defundung and removing the highly touted and effective Pandemic Prevention team leadership from those Chinese labs several months earlier contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid.

"Defund the Police" is a demand of several Repub leaders and has been for years, even Trump through his nominee for Director of the Federal Police. I never heard a Dem leader demanding such a thing.

Carter's historically great Fed Chairman appointee, Paul Volcker, clearly stated and identified why he was raising Fed Funds rates in order to reduce inflation and cool down an overheated economy that was creating too many jobs for applicants to take them. Not much to do with the high gas prices and gas lines Carter inherited from Nixon / Ford's Arab Oil Embargo.

And that purposely and strategically induced mini recession that barely counted as a recession was finished by mid 1980, months before Reagan took office. You're a big fan of NBER on the issue of recessions, right? Look it up.

As was the rise of inflation reversing to a steady, almost month over month decline in Inflation and reduction in the Fed Funds rates, thanks to Carter's Fed Chairman appointee, beginning many months before Reagan took office.

We had pretty high prices for gas under Joe Biden for a while. But no recession. Not even a mini one like was purposely induced under Carter where the unemployment rate spiked up to about 7. 8% for single month before steadily declining, much less a Great Recession where it spiked up to 14%, as it did under Trump or those 10 whopping consecutive months of 10% plus unemployment rates that started during Reagan's 2nd year in office or the ridiculously low jobs creation under GHW Bush.

Under Biden the unemployment rate never exceeded upward to even 4. 5% since his policies were put into the system in mid 2021. And his historic record of new jobs created exceeds that of all three of the previous Repub presidents combined along with a sizable portion of the 4th previous one even if a downward adjustment of 1 million was made over time.

Weird, huh? Just more wild coincidences that seem only to plague Repub presidents' policies and stewardship and benefit Dem presidents' policies and stewardship I guess.

There are a couple of reasons the vast majority of American Workers live and work in Dem Cities and Dem States; that is where the jobs and the good life in America is.

[B]Why did U.S. homicides spike in 2020 and then decline rapidly in 2023 and 2024?
New evidence and solutions to prevent future violence in U.S. cities.
DECEMBER 16, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-did-u-s-homicides-spike-in-2020-and-then-decline-rapidly-in-2023-and-2024/[/URL]

[B]Homicide, Most Other Violent Crimes Drop to Pre-Pandemic Levels in U.S. Cities.
JULY 25, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://counciloncj.org/homicide-most-other-violent-crimes-drop-to-pre-pandemic-levels-in-u-s-cities/[/URL]

[B]New data shows violent crime dropping sharply in major U.S. cities.
AUGUST 12, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.axios.com/2024/08/12/violent-crime-harris-trump-election[/URL]

[B]Red States Have Higher Gun Death Rates Than Blue States. Heres Why.
April 28, 2023[/B]

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-states-have-higher-gun-death-rates-than-blue-states-heres-why/[/URL]

[B]Republicans claim Democrats cant keep us safe crime data disagrees.
Studies show that states with higher murder rates are those that vote red even as conservatives stoke fear about crime.
June 28, 2023[/B]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/30/murder-rates-democrat-republican-states-gun-control[/URL]

Can't those Repub governors control the per capita murder and crime rates in their States' most populated and important cities? Are they just Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeats regarding the vast majority of people, workers and tax-payers living in their State?

Shameful.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2968700]Tooms and Xpartan, You will never achieve true enlightenment until you learn to love Republicans. And Marquis, you must learn to love the Chinese. And the moderate Democrats. For until that happens you will live in ignorance and hatred. Learn how to love, and you shall see the Light. And the darkness shall be lifted from your hearts.

There is no need however to admonish you, Marquis, to love the Progressive Democrats, for you are one.

Buddha Tiny[/QUOTE]Oh kumbaya! Tiny says all we need is a huge amount of love! [B]Ahahaha[/B]! What we all need for Christmas is love sayeth Tiny LOL!

[URL]https://youtu.be/rYaIWbhKQsI?si=_a-vVPni4SFmStSu[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2969623]There are a couple of reasons the vast majority of American Workers live and work in Dem Cities and Dem States; that is where the jobs and the good life in America is.

Can't those Repub governors control the per capita murder and crime rates in their States' most populated and important cities? Are they just Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeats regarding the vast majority of people, workers and tax-payers living in their State?

Shameful.[/QUOTE]Here we have some Democratic douche in Thailand telling us how things are in the USA. Yes, Salt Lake City and Des Moines are not safe; you had best live in Harlem, South Chicago, and South Phily.

Of course, it really shows Loony Tooms is a racist. The Democratic douches said black and white could not be used to distinguigh thing but last I checked you could not change the color of your skin. However, red and blue is cool because if you choose to vote blue, although no one really knows if you did, your IQ soars as does your immune system when it comes to fighting Covid, and you live in crime free paradises. The douches cannot figure out why anyone could be opposed to voting blue then. They point to the NYT and say, "Well, THEY said it is true. ".

Of course, the whole thing could come down to the equation, if A=be and be=see, then A must equal see right? In other words, if crime is higher in black neighborhoods and blacks vote Democrat, then crime is higher in Democratic / blue neighborhoods right?

Wait, Elvis, you cannot do that and by that, I mean think logically and not politically. Why do the hell do these dumb douches think it is okay to put South Chicago and Southern Illinois in the same grouping, distinguish the impossible to distinguish red v. Blue (because people can change how they vote), but not the black and white skin color grouping that has been done for centuries?

It is also okay to pit Christian Americans versus Arab Americans, those previously Democratic voting turn coats who saw their race being mowed down by Biden approved American bombs. That is just being honest, Elvis. That is not racist at all.

If Loony Tooms came back to the USA, the first place he would go to live is Detroit or Baltimore right? Someone needs to tell him that the head of BLM now lives in a gated community. Yes, Loony Tooms, the blacks / blues leave their own ghettos when given the chance.

Buddha Tiny does not celebrate Christmas.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2969789]Buddha Tiny does not celebrate Christmas.[/QUOTE]Would never entertain such a magnanimous concept.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2969759]Here we have some Democratic douche in Thailand telling us how things are in the USA. Yes, Salt Lake City and Des Moines are not safe; you had best live in Harlem, South Chicago, and South Phily.

Of course, it really shows Loony Tooms is a racist. The Democratic douches said black and white could not be used to distinguigh thing but last I checked you could not change the color of your skin. However, red and blue is cool because if you choose to vote blue, although no one really knows if you did, your IQ soars as does your immune system when it comes to fighting Covid, and you live in crime free paradises. The douches cannot figure out why anyone could be opposed to voting blue then. They point to the NYT and say, "Well, THEY said it is true. ".

Of course, the whole thing could come down to the equation, if A=be and be=see, then A must equal see right? In other words, if crime is higher in black neighborhoods and blacks vote Democrat, then crime is higher in Democratic / blue neighborhoods right?

Wait, Elvis, you cannot do that and by that, I mean think logically and not politically. Why do the hell do these dumb douches think it is okay to put South Chicago and Southern Illinois in the same grouping, distinguish the impossible to distinguish red v. Blue (because people can change how they vote), but not the black and white skin color grouping that has been done for centuries?

It is also okay to pit Christian Americans versus Arab Americans, those previously Democratic voting turn coats who saw their race being mowed down by Biden approved American bombs. That is just being honest, Elvis. That is not racist at all.

If Loony Tooms came back to the USA, the first place he would go to live is Detroit or Baltimore right? Someone needs to tell him that the head of BLM now lives in a gated community. Yes, Loony Tooms, the blacks / blues leave their own ghettos when given the chance.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/dnc-finance-chair/2024/12/21/id/1192532/[/URL]

There are a few in this thread that write like they still belong with David Koresh and The Branch Davidians.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2969759]Here we have some Democratic douche in Thailand telling us how things are in the USA. Yes, Salt Lake City and Des Moines are not safe; you had best live in Harlem, South Chicago, and South Phily.

Of course, it really shows Loony Tooms is a racist. The Democratic douches said black and white could not be used to distinguigh thing but last I checked you could not change the color of your skin. However, red and blue is cool because if you choose to vote blue, although no one really knows if you did, your IQ soars as does your immune system when it comes to fighting Covid, and you live in crime free paradises. The douches cannot figure out why anyone could be opposed to voting blue then. They point to the NYT and say, "Well, THEY said it is true. ".

Of course, the whole thing could come down to the equation, if A=be and be=see, then A must equal see right? In other words, if crime is higher in black neighborhoods and blacks vote Democrat, then crime is higher in Democratic / blue neighborhoods right?

Wait, Elvis, you cannot do that and by that, I mean think logically and not politically. Why do the hell do these dumb douches think it is okay to put South Chicago and Southern Illinois in the same grouping, distinguish the impossible to distinguish red v. Blue (because people can change how they vote), but not the black and white skin color grouping that has been done for centuries?

It is also okay to pit Christian Americans versus Arab Americans, those previously Democratic voting turn coats who saw their race being mowed down by Biden approved American bombs. That is just being honest, Elvis. That is not racist at all.

If Loony Tooms came back to the USA, the first place he would go to live is Detroit or Baltimore right? Someone needs to tell him that the head of BLM now lives in a gated community. Yes, Loony Tooms, the blacks / blues leave their own ghettos when given the chance.[/QUOTE]One's IQ soars and THEN they vote straight Dem up and down the ballot every time.

Unless your goal is to install elected officials whose only mission and historic claim to fame is to be a Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat bent on creating chaos, Great Depressions, Great Recessions, Massive Jobs Destruction and embrace and exacerbate any and every "Once in 100 Years Disaster" they can possibly find every 4-8 years, then I suppose whatever IQ it takes to choose that for your family, friends, country and your own life will lead you to vote for at least one Repub every now and then.

I think if I were to get tired of enjoying life with my FDR, JFK / LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden well-earned entitlements, career and investment gains in Thailand, I would move into a certain Southern California rental property, the mortgage of which is close to being fully paid for by my highly responsible and near zero hassle tenants. That particular neighborhood is lovely. A true "walker's paradise", university area, entertainment, widely diverse ethnic, cultural and restaurant options abound, comfortable year round weather, low crime and very little "blight" unless I make a determined effort to go searching for it.

I keep very close tabs on what is going on in that part of the world with my rental management company, tenants, friends, family, business associates, etc.

But I don't recall ever voting for anyone based on their immigration and / or racial stance or ethnicity.

Unlike MAGAs and their Party's lord and savior, whoever that is:

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2969623]
[B]Republicans claim Democrats cant keep us safe crime data disagrees.
Studies show that states with higher murder rates are those that vote red even as conservatives stoke fear about crime.
June 28, 2023[/B]

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=2785837&viewfull=1#post2785837[/URL]

Can't those Repub governors control the per capita murder and crime rates in their States' most populated and important cities? Are they just Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeats regarding the vast majority of people, workers and tax-payers living in their State?

Shameful.[/QUOTE]Why would you look to governors to police individual cities? That's like blaming Biden for high murder rates in Mississippi.

It's the local sheriffs and police chiefs who are responsible. And in many Democratic counties and cities they do a piss poor job:

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2785837]As I don't want you gentlemen to waste a huge amount of time on a losing proposition, here are the ten counties in the USA with the highest homicide rates in 2017, from the source linked below, and the margin by which Biden won each in 2020.

1. Orleans Parish, Louisiana 68.2%.

2. Coahoma County, Mississippi 42.9%.

3. Phillips County, Arkansas 19.3%.

4. tie St. Louis City, Missouri 66.2%.

4. tie Baltimore City, Maryland 76.6%.

6. Petersburg, Virginia 76.5%.

7. tie Macon County, Alabama 63.8%.

7. tie Washington, D.C. 86.7%.

9. Washington County, Mississippi 39.6%.

9. Dallas County, Alabama 37.5%.

[URL]https://www.police1.com/ambush/articles/10-us-counties-with-the-highest-murder-rate-kerWgaEUmxJkn74J/[/URL]

[/QUOTE]

I'm two lazy to do the same exercise for the cities with the highest homicide rates, but just looking at them, I bet they all went heavily for Biden in 2020 too:

https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/cities-with-most-murders

You are the victim of Simpson's paradox. You must segment the data to better understand cause and effect. The cause is Democratic Party local government and the effect is higher homicide rates.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2969848]Why would you look to governors to police individual cities? That's like blaming Biden for high murder rates in Mississippi.

It's the local sheriffs and police chiefs who are responsible. And in many Democratic counties and cities they do a piss poor job:



I'm two lazy to do the same exercise for the cities with the highest homicide rates, but just looking at them, I bet they all went heavily for Biden in 2020 too:

https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/cities-with-most-murders

You are the victim of Simpson's paradox. You must segment the data to better understand cause and effect. The cause is Democratic Party local government and the effect is higher homicide rates.[/QUOTE]Obsessive "Motivated Reasoning".

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2969848]Why would you look to governors to police individual cities? That's like blaming Biden for high murder rates in Mississippi.

It's the local sheriffs and police chiefs who are responsible. And in many Democratic counties and cities they do a piss poor job:



I'm two lazy to do the same exercise for the cities with the highest homicide rates, but just looking at them, I bet they all went heavily for Biden in 2020 too:

https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/cities-with-most-murders

You are the victim of Simpson's paradox. You must segment the data to better understand cause and effect. The cause is Democratic Party local government and the effect is higher homicide rates.[/QUOTE]Has a week gone by when MAGAs and Bothsider / Neithersiders HAVEN'T blamed Biden or Harris or Biden-Harris for national crime rates? Like you just tried to do here.

Who are those governors' constituents if not the people who live in their states' cities and towns? Rattlesnakes, groundhogs and Zeke the desert trailor-dwelling hermit nobody has seen since he dropped off a bucket of severed feet and hands at Aunt Bea's Roadside Chicken Stand last month?

I assume those Repub governors show up to be thanked for their "fine governance" at the celebration of the capture of a Monarch Butterfly by Hooterville's Mayor Beauregard.

Why shouldn't they be expected to be responsible for at least some if not most of the safety, welfare, job opportunities, business expansion and all the other elements of life that factor into crime rates everywhere else on the planet?

Damn. Just how DEADBEAT do these Deadbeat Repub governors and other Repub elected officials have to be before Presidents-elect and Department of Efficiency Secretaries Musk and Ramaswamy cut their pay down to the zero they apparently ever earn?