German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2467744].............First, not all mongers are itching to go back to the clubs. Many Americans are genuinely concerned about their own health and safety probably, me being one. I would not be visiting any clubs even if the clubs were open this minute. I am staying away from even my sugar babes due to health concerns, and those are girls I can fuck any time w / o having to travel right near my home...........[/QUOTE]You have very strong will power. When I returned home from Germany in the middle of March I vowed to abstain from sex until the catastrophe is over. My abstinence lasted for about two weeks. Sigh.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2467836]Pessimist, totally respect your personal decision that you would not monger presently. It is very much that. A personal decision. Not for a moment do I suggest ALL FKK girls will go to Spain. Far from it. I merely make the point that whilst Switzerland, Netherlands, Austria, Spain and other countries have allowed brothels to re-open, the decision to keep them closed in Germany will very seriously impact their future. Girls who have never previously worked outside Germany will see that it is possible to make as much money without having to be fucked for 50/30 for hours on end. And possibly in nicer environments and / or climates.

Adindas. As above. I don't believe all FKK girls will flock to Spain. But the girls will go to wherever they can to earn money be that Amsterdam, Brussels, Spain, Austria, Zurich or wherever. I have little doubt that the big FKKs will survive. And to be clear. I really HOPE they do! I love going to FKKs. More than mongering anywhere else. I just think the policy of keeping them closed when the rest of Europe has opened up brothels is financially dangerous for the FKKs.[/QUOTE]Spain is experiencing another massive wave of new cases, in part because they have chosen to allow (mostly drunk) brits back into the country without any quarantine requirements. In my view, Germany policy will be turn out to be the best and they will find a way to re-open FKK in a safe environment.

Rock.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2467858]NRW Germans are trying Globe, like Tara, Melina. Silicon and tattooed Melika is at 6 ens NL. A so pretty face from Artemis for me at Globe.

If still open, business should be down in Spain on end of September.[/QUOTE]When some GT German girls are now working and not the prettiest, for 140/30 at Globe, even Germans are used to respect rules, but I wonder how they will accept everything for only 50/30 and old fat going to cry on desk, when GT will reopen. Linda telling about cheap business at YY NL where also 50/30 but no desk to listen to old fat crying. But some didn't make enough business to stay in Switzerland.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2467896]You have very strong will power. When I returned home from Germany in the middle of March I vowed to abstain from sex until the catastrophe is over. My abstinence lasted for about two weeks. Sigh.[/QUOTE]Are you using SA or going for local escorts. Just curious. Do people think it's safer to take visiting girls or local girls. We are seeing an influx in the NW of visiting Russian girls. Clearly brought in by the same group as the ads are so closely similar but nonetheless each ad somehow pretends the girl is INDIE and jsut happened to discover Seattle or Vancouver.

But sorry guys to you really believe that the German government cares about the reopening of the FKK, visiting prostitutes and being safe is not compatible or please explain to me how so many medical staffs are infected even they take a lot of safety measures.

For me I will not visit any prostitutes in the coming months or years until the safety is back, I am not stupid, first of all I am extremely selective so I think there are few real, natural beauties now in the FKK just because those girls don't need to take risk for their health, second since I reduced drastically (2017) my spending on P6 my finances are so much better.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2467896]You have very strong will power. When I returned home from Germany in the middle of March I vowed to abstain from sex until the catastrophe is over. My abstinence lasted for about two weeks. Sigh.[/QUOTE]I have a family, which is a constraining factor. Not truly any will power; but we are distancing now and it would be tough to cover up a Covid infection and also not a risk I want to expose them to. It is different from say, if I got an STD which I can fix quietly by seeing a doctor. I would be doing as you did if I was single haha. If you are seeing escorts regularly, you may already be infected and safe for now. Did you get an antibody test?

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2467838]Which 3 clubs?[/QUOTE]Estark 92 Fuengirola (posted twice in the forum), Fontana (LOS Barrios) posted a report, and now Scandalos. Hope that answers the question.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2467912]Spain is experiencing another massive wave of new cases, in part because they have chosen to allow (mostly drunk) brits back into the country without any quarantine requirements. In my view, Germany policy will be turn out to be the best and they will find a way to re-open FKK in a safe environment.

Rock.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but this is just factually wrong. There is no "massive" wave of new cases at all. Spain had 4 deaths on Thursday, Germany had 3. See Worldometers. Spain has had new waves in Galatia (north) and Sergia (Catalunia). The reports in Madrid and Costa Del Sol (where most of the clubs are) are that the virus is under control.

Mask are mandatory everywhere. Including in the clubs. Big fines if no mask.

The drunk Brits hit Magauluf and got it closed. You are of course entitled to your view, but I'm sorry to say that many FKKs just will not survive being closed for so long. The big clubs will survive on past profits. Many of the smaller clubs which were hand to mouth monthly just will not make it through.

And Spain is seeing a rise (as many countries are) but it is not "massive" and it is very much under control and far less serious than the spikes in other parts of the World. Mongering in Spain is virtually unrestricted presently, ditto Holland, ditto Switzerland. It is only really in Germany (and now Austria) where panic is causing businesses to close.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2467886]I blame it on widespread erectile problems, and ugly feminist women.[/QUOTE]Mongers and related industries always has been central core of criticism by many entities or more like by almost all society, they do not like what we do buddy, but we love what we do LOL! And fair to say, we are living much better sex life than most men ever lived, so let us strive to live even better sex life till the day we kick our bucket. We mongers are on the right path LOL!

[QUOTE=RockyV;2467912]Spain is experiencing another massive wave of new cases, in part because they have chosen to allow (mostly drunk) brits back into the country without any quarantine requirements. In my view, Germany policy will be turn out to be the best and they will find a way to re-open FKK in a safe environment.

Rock.[/QUOTE]As I said before, the media is scaremongering all these "cases," but very little gets reported about how many of those "cases" are actually doing. Are these "cases" sitting at home feeling fine? Are these "cases" displaying mild flu-like symptoms? Or are those "cases" requiring hospitalization, intensive care or are dying?

I'm not a big fan of Fox News, but they uncovered a story that in Florida some young motorcyclist died, and they registered him as "Covid 19 fatality."

[URL]https://video.foxnews.com/v/6172729844001[/URL]#sp=show-clips.

This is how they manipulate and scare you. So once again: how many of those "cases" are actually in serious condition?

You seem to know very little about German policy. Are you German, do you speak the language, or do you frequently visit German? As I also wrote about before, Germany still has vert strict distancing laws, many people wear masks, even drinking a coffee on a terrace outside or walking into a McD and asking for a 'coffee-to-go' requires you to fill out a contact form, mask-wearing is mandatory in shops and office buildings, gyms-fitness centres (physical activities) still have many restrictions, and we are now living in the summer where it's nice weather and windows (fresh virus-free air can enter buildings) are open.

I simply don't see how this can improve during the winter.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2467932]Are you using SA or going for local escorts. Just curious. Do people think it's safer to take visiting girls or local girls. We are seeing an influx in the NW of visiting Russian girls. Clearly brought in by the same group as the ads are so closely similar but nonetheless each ad somehow pretends the girl is INDIE and jsut happened to discover Seattle or Vancouver.[/QUOTE]Non-pros and SA have not worked for me. NYC escorts all the way. Too many are overweight, I miss my slim Romanians. Sigh.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2467983]I have a family, which is a constraining factor. Not truly any will power; but we are distancing now and it would be tough to cover up a Covid infection and also not a risk I want to expose them to. It is different from say, if I got an STD which I can fix quietly by seeing a doctor. I would be doing as you did if I was single haha. If you are seeing escorts regularly, you may already be infected and safe for now. Did you get an antibody test?[/QUOTE]When I was in Brazil last year I got a nasty infection in November which had the symptoms of covid-19, I put it down to normal influenza and took the necessary medication, I was unable to monger for two weeks. Since then I've been doing fine and have not gotten tested.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2467983]I have a family, which is a constraining factor. Not truly any will power; but we are distancing now and it would be tough to cover up a Covid infection and also not a risk I want to expose them to. It is different from say, if I got an STD which I can fix quietly by seeing a doctor. I would be doing as you did if I was single haha. If you are seeing escorts regularly, you may already be infected and safe for now. Did you get an antibody test?[/QUOTE]I totally fail to see any logic in your thinking.

CV19 like a common cold or a flu and you can catch it everywhere even from visiting a supermarket so it's easy to make up an excuse, but an STD is only transmitted via sex (hence the name sexually transmitted disease) and therefore a lot harder to explain to or hide from a wife / partner / family.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2467732]I have already posted that many FKK girls are heading to the sunshine of Spain and I suspect other countries. Only 3 deaths and a handful of cases in the South of Spain in 1 week. They work by night and sunbathe by day. They earn minimum 120 p / hour and maybe up to 170 p / hour after paying the club. They need not get fucked by 15 guys to make their money and the only restriction is that on the way to the beach they wear a facemask. No big deal. In the past week I've met girls I saw in Oase, Sharks and now Artemis in 3 clubs in Spain.

It matters not if Austria gets closed. There are other (warmer) options. I fully understand Germany likes to play safe. But the insistence on keeping brothels closed is going to slowly kill them all and the ladies will just follow where the work and money is.

I love visiting FKKs. But I fear if they remain closed for even one month more it will finish them off for good. The girls I spoke to who moved to work in Spain say they would never return whenever Germany opens. If the German government wants to adopt the Nordic model it is playing this well. If it wants millions of taxes from prostitution in Germany it is truly making dreadful mistakes. For sure, lives and safety are paramount. But the numbers in Germany are no worse than in Spain. I genuinely think the clock is ticking on FKKs.[/QUOTE]Spain is warmer. So, it is easier for the girls to work year round. However, there is much more money in Germany if the messes reopens. That is the real issue. Even if the clubs reopens, there is not enough business without the messe crowdes to keep the big clubs full. Clubs are not so easy to retrofit. If one fails, a person just buys the place and reopens. The issue is if there are enough girls to stock the place and get the customers to come. The demand is there. No many mongers give up the lifestyle unless they are out of money or just too old.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2468200]I totally fail to see any logic in your thinking.

CV19 like a common cold or a flu and you can catch it everywhere even from visiting a supermarket so it's easy to make up an excuse, but an STD is only transmitted via sex (hence the name sexually transmitted disease) and therefore a lot harder to explain to or hide from a wife / partner / family.[/QUOTE]I fully understand him to be careful to protect his family when brothels are real playfield for spreading virus. I m always amazed many Germans go to fuck AO before returning to wife. Great respect for wife health, when a bad guy like me give real name and phone at Globe, even no ID control, but if I take risks for me, I want to be informed if risk, not to kill too many people I meet who don t deserve to get sick or die because I visit brothels and behave with no respect for others. On this time, can see who are real respectful, rather than many only blabla.