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Hey Cubanut,

Thanks for the tip. This is actually perfect as I really was thinking to myself that opposed to going and hitting the discos or mongering as I have a gal and I'm pretty faithful, what I;d really like is a place to just got sit and enjoy my time watching some hot chicas dance. I'll probably have a ball there, assuming they are cool with me just drinking and enjoying the scenario. And you say it's close to Intercontinental so it must be close to Pension Stein as I walked to Interrcontinental last time.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,

If you wil be staying near the Intercontinental, I think your best use of time is to go to Escoces. It's just down the block from there (around the corner from the Dann Carlton.

The girls are friendly and very pretty. Sure it's a little more pricey than let's say the cheap casas but definately not as expensive as Frescades Flores (who's girls have real shitty attitudes these days).

The fact that all the girls are in lingerie instead of clothes also gives you a heads up as to the body as well.

If you can wait til closing (2am) you can negotiate a price with the girl outside of paying the bar fine. However if you have an early flight then pay the barfine and leave rather than wasting time sitting around drinking and dancing. Plenty more time to dance in your own bed, I always say.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]

Ah.. Cubanut. Not that I'm frugal, but could you kindly give me an idea on prices at Escoces? Like I said, this sounds perfect and is really right down my alley for what I was looking for. So I'm there regardless of the prices since you recommend it. But, I'd also prefer not to pay the gringo tax and since I'll be alone and havent been to Cali in years, any info you might have so I'll know if Im being taken behind the woodshed would be fantastic.




[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,

If you wil be staying near the Intercontinental, I think your best use of time is to go to Escoces. It's just down the block from there (around the corner from the Dann Carlton.

The girls are friendly and very pretty. Sure it's a little more pricey than let's say the cheap casas but definately not as expensive as Frescades Flores (who's girls have real shitty attitudes these days).

The fact that all the girls are in lingerie instead of clothes also gives you a heads up as to the body as well.

If you can wait til closing (2am) you can negotiate a price with the girl outside of paying the bar fine. However if you have an early flight then pay the barfine and leave rather than wasting time sitting around drinking and dancing. Plenty more time to dance in your own bed, I always say.


Cheers,


Cubanut[/QUOTE]

Kinda wierd.. I first posted this post and it didnt get posted...

Hey Cubanut,

Thanks for the tip. This is actually perfect as I really was thinking to myself that opposed to going and hitting the discos or mongering as I have a gal and I'm pretty faithful, what I;d really like is a place to just got sit and enjoy my time watching some hot chicas dance. I'll probably have a ball there, assuming they are cool with me just drinking and enjoying the scenario. And you say it's close to Intercontinental so it must be close to Pension Stein as I walked to Interrcontinental last time.

Thanks



[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,

If you wil be staying near the Intercontinental, I think your best use of time is to go to Escoces. It's just down the block from there (around the corner from the Dann Carlton.

The girls are friendly and very pretty. Sure it's a little more pricey than let's say the cheap casas but definately not as expensive as Frescades Flores (who's girls have real shitty attitudes these days).

The fact that all the girls are in lingerie instead of clothes also gives you a heads up as to the body as well.

If you can wait til closing (2am) you can negotiate a price with the girl outside of paying the bar fine. However if you have an early flight then pay the barfine and leave rather than wasting time sitting around drinking and dancing. Plenty more time to dance in your own bed, I always say.


Cheers,


Cubanut[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,

If you wil be staying near the Intercontinental, I think your best use of time is to go to Escoces. It's just down the block from there (around the corner from the Dann Carlton.

The girls are friendly and very pretty. Sure it's a little more pricey than let's say the cheap casas but definately not as expensive as Frescades Flores (who's girls have real shitty attitudes these days).

The fact that all the girls are in lingerie instead of clothes also gives you a heads up as to the body as well.

If you can wait til closing (2am) you can negotiate a price with the girl outside of paying the bar fine. However if you have an early flight then pay the barfine and leave rather than wasting time sitting around drinking and dancing. Plenty more time to dance in your own bed, I always say.
Cubanut[/QUOTE]


Cheers,

Thanks for that. It has been two years since I have been to Colombia. How much will I have to pay for the bar fine plus the girls tip there these days?

Cheers

WINNER wrote:

what I;d really like is a place to just got sit and enjoy my time watching some hot chicas dance.

There is only one real choice then, the salsatecas in Juanchito which is considered the "cradle of salsa" Worldwide. A bit of background:


Research Article

Record grooves and salsa dance moves: the viejoteca phenomenon in Cali, Colombia
LISE WAXER

Abstract

Disfrutar recordando tiempos de ayer al compás de música aprendida a fuerza de bailarla. Revivir la emoción de aquellos Momentos involvidables y sentir que somos los mismos . . .

To enjoy while remembering moments of yesteryear to the rhythm of music learned by force of dancing to it. To live again the emotion of those unforgettable moments and feel that we are the same . . .

Slogan on a poster for Changó Viejoteca, 1995

In the southwest Colombian metropolis of Cali, recorded music has come to exert an unusually strong force on local popular culture in this century. Not only did recordings play a key role in establishing Cuban music, and later, salsa, as the principal musical style of the city, they also became the basis for the record-centred dance scene that predominated in Cali during the 1940s through to the 1970s, and continued to be important as the live scene flourished during the 1980s and 1990s. The centrality of recorded music for Caleños (the inhabitants of Cali) challenges the privileging, in most scholarly work, of live performance as more ‘real’ or ‘authentic’ than its mediated versions. Indeed, for many decades, ‘playing music’ in Cali literally meant putting on a record, as a source of music for other social and expressive activities. The term disco (literally, record disc) still exists as a local synonym for ‘song’, even when it is a live rendition of a song, e.g. ‘vamos a tocar ese disco’ (let's perform that song).

That's where I was going to go last time I was there 3 years ago... but got sidetracked with a hot little chica and I told her to make the itinerary... and we didn't end up in Juanchito. I'd say I'd try it this time, but do you think it's a good idea since I'll be getting into airport at 8:40... then customs and Immigration, then a cab to area around Intercontinental Hotel area.. thus it's now what 11pm.. then I have to be back at the airport by 5am for my 6am flight. Is Juanchito a good idea still? What about Escoces? I was getting pretty hyped about going to a bar in Cali with chicas walking around in Lingerie. I guess what I'd really like is kind of like a "Treasures", "The Men's Club" or "Ricks" of Houston.. type of atmosphere.. but in Colombia. I.e. Eye candy all over, chicas to chitchat with and drink. Ultimately I have to get on a plane at 6am and arrive to my girlfriend at the airport in BArranquilla at 10am.. so I'd rather not have that face of.. I just got shitfaced last night in Cali.

Thoughts?
[QUOTE=Surfer]WINNER wrote:

what I;d really like is a place to just got sit and enjoy my time watching some hot chicas dance.

There is only one real choice then, the salsatecas in Juanchito which is considered the "cradle of salsa" Worldwide. A bit of background:


Research Article

Record grooves and salsa dance moves: the viejoteca phenomenon in Cali, Colombia
LISE WAXER

Abstract

Disfrutar recordando tiempos de ayer al compás de música aprendida a fuerza de bailarla. Revivir la emoción de aquellos Momentos involvidables y sentir que somos los mismos . . .

To enjoy while remembering moments of yesteryear to the rhythm of music learned by force of dancing to it. To live again the emotion of those unforgettable moments and feel that we are the same . . .

Slogan on a poster for Changó Viejoteca, 1995

In the southwest Colombian metropolis of Cali, recorded music has come to exert an unusually strong force on local popular culture in this century. Not only did recordings play a key role in establishing Cuban music, and later, salsa, as the principal musical style of the city, they also became the basis for the record-centred dance scene that predominated in Cali during the 1940s through to the 1970s, and continued to be important as the live scene flourished during the 1980s and 1990s. The centrality of recorded music for Caleños (the inhabitants of Cali) challenges the privileging, in most scholarly work, of live performance as more ‘real’ or ‘authentic’ than its mediated versions. Indeed, for many decades, ‘playing music’ in Cali literally meant putting on a record, as a source of music for other social and expressive activities. The term disco (literally, record disc) still exists as a local synonym for ‘song’, even when it is a live rendition of a song, e.g. ‘vamos a tocar ese disco’ (let's perform that song).[/QUOTE]

embarrassed to say I never made it up there either despite the best intentions LOL

It does not get going until 11pm so arriving about midnight would be perfect. The question is whether you can stay up all night with no sleep and still be bright eyed and bushytailed when you arrive in BAQ. I know I couldn't but you are younger I think LOL

These are regular dance clubs though, not strip joints like Treasures.

That is the big issue... still be bright-eyed and bushytailed when I arrive in Barranquilla and last through thewhole day and night of Carnivales after pretty much no sleep as you can see on Saturday night after not a whole lot of sleep on Friday night etiher (I have an early engagement on Saturday morning before my flight). Thus I'll have to take it easy... and won;t be in the mood for a long cab ride to Juanchito... a few hours there to do what? Meet someone and then what? No time. Thus I thought Escoces would be the better option. But now you have me thinking... is Escoces a dance club? I thought it would be some sort of topless bar (chicas fluttering around in lingerie) as sopposed to a dance club or a casa (type where you go in a room and they line up and you choose). Don't get me wrong.. I absolutely love hitting the discos, but I'll be just too tired and won't be able to make it through the night and still be fresh and ready to go in the am. So, is Escoces a disco also? Is Escoces where you mention you've never had a chance to make it up there? By the words.. up there.. I would assume Juanchito. Fill me in. Heck it's almost making me wonder if I should make my flgiht back have a few days stopover in Cali, as Iver really never had the chance to go at it solo in Cali. If I did, it;d have to be during the week though... I.e. Wed and Thurs night type of deal. Ricker, maybe you can chime in... is Cali a thumbs up or thumbs down during the week?

[QUOTE=Surfer]embarrassed to say I never made it up there either despite the best intentions LOL

It does not get going until 11pm so arriving about midnight would be perfect. The question is whether you can stay up all night with no sleep and still be bright eyed and bushytailed when you arrive in BAQ. I know I couldn't but you are younger I think LOL

These are regular dance clubs though, not strip joints like Treasures.[/QUOTE]

El Escoces is probably your best choice. It is the second most upscale place after Flores Frescas.

I would not recommend FF, too expensive for what it is, and not very good vibes.

The discotecas / salsa places in Cali all look the same after a while, Juanchito or no. They have the same layout (circular dancefloor in the middle, surrounded on all sides by sofas grouped around tables). And same music mix too.

I would recommend just going to Escoces. You would be wasting your time going to one of those salsa places without a fun group, or at least a date for the evening.

Very good... so is Escoces a topless bar type of venue?


[QUOTE=Cachorro]El Escoces is probably your best choice. It is the second most upscale place after Flores Frescas.

I would not recommend FF, too expensive for what it is, and not very good vibes.

The discotecas / salsa places in Cali all look the same after a while, Juanchito or no. They have the same layout (circular dancefloor in the middle, surrounded on all sides by sofas grouped around tables). And same music mix too.

I would recommend just going to Escoces. You would be wasting your time going to one of those salsa places without a fun group, or at least a date for the evening.[/QUOTE]

Winner71,

You're dancing all over the place now. You first said you only wanted to hit the town. Then you wanted to check out some hot chicks dancing. Then you said you're faithful to your girl. Then you said you want to sit abd drink with the girls. And now you are asking if Cali is worth checking out a couple of days?



Well my friend you can do it all and enjoy it all but ultimately it's all up to you to decide on a path to follow.


I still say if it is just an overnight layover you are looking at then hit Escoces. It is a small but comfortable dance club just around the corner from the Dann Carlton. It will be happening at 11pm when you enter, No cover and the set up is small half circle seating and like I said, the girls are in Lingerie. I was there twice during the week and both times the girls were fun and energetic. THEY LOVE A GOOD DANCER as well. My buddy must have danced with 7 of the girls when I first went. They loved his moves. We bought a short bottle of rum for $70,000 and it came with cola and ice and sliced limes. The girls are not guzzlers because they make no extra money from the drinks which is cool. They girls were very friendly and talkative. Of course they made the rounds with other customers but often were dancing in pairs because they keep the music flowing. The cost for a girl as take out is $150,000 cop in house for an hour and $250,000 cop for take out. Howevevr when the place cleses, many of the girls are ready to go for around $100,000 cop back to your place for a couple of hours.

Some of the girls are VERY HOT and I guarantee you that non will be ugly because the good looks standards of Escoces apparently keeps out the mediocre chicas. Sorry but it is not a strip club or topless club. Also remember that this is Cali so the girls are darker here than let's say Medellin but since your girl is from Baranqulla I imagine you like the darker sort anyway.


Now if you are staying a few nights then the door opens wide open for play but then again you say you are faithful to your girl so I will refrain from expanding on this for now.


This girl wasn't the hottest girl in Escoces when I was last there but she was very personable and friendly. I forget her name however.


Cheers,


Cubanut

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,

I still say if it is just an overnight layover you are looking at then hit Escoces ... ... The cost for a girl as take out is $150,000 cop in house for an hour and $250,000 cop for take out. Howevevr when the place cleses, many of the girls are ready to go for around $100,000 cop back to your place for a couple of hours ...


Cubanut[/QUOTE]

Actually, the price in Escoces is 40,000 pesos to the house, in-house or takeout. Of course you have to negotiate with the chica for her take, and that depends on the usual ... negotiating skill, chemestry, etc.
I've gotten friends service, in house for 100,000 total, I've never done in-house myself.
I've taken out chicas and paid a total of 150,000 for all night, including the bar fine.

I stopped by Escoces not too long ago ... a couple weeks I believe ... quality was lower than I've seen. Hopefully it'll improve. :)

Suerte!

Cubanut,

Thanks for the intel, I greatly appreciate it. It's guys like you who help us "newbies" aspire to become "Senior" members.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Actually, the price in Escoces is 40,000 pesos to the house, in-house or takeout. Of course you have to negotiate with the chica for her take, and that depends on the usual ... negotiating skill, chemestry, etc.
I've gotten friends service, in house for 100,000 total, I've never done in-house myself.
I've taken out chicas and paid a total of 150,000 for all night, including the bar fine.

I stopped by Escoces not too long ago ... a couple weeks I believe ... quality was lower than I've seen. Hopefully it'll improve. :)

Suerte![/QUOTE]


Like you said the girls do the negotiating. On this particular night there was alot of bling bling gringos that apparently walked over from IC or the Dann so the girls were talking larger dollars than usual. I just wanted folks to see the high side of things. As usual though after hours, or outside of the work place prices drop. That's why I prefer to get a girls number or set up a next day afternoon toss about. It always works to my advantage.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Very good point. I guess I should have said, Id love to drink, dance, relax, chit-chat with some Calenas and all the better if they are in Lingerie, but I dont plan on doing the deed with any of them . Why would I go... oh, because I'd like to see how Calenas compare to Barranquilleras.. both in looks, personality, attitude... granted that may not be a fair comparison given that it's working girls of Cali. But it should be interesting and sure, who didnt enjoy a little temptation. Maybe I'll find out I'm not really ready to settle down. I wouldnt be unfaithful, but if the urge was really really great, I would explain my desires to my chica and see what happens from there. Thus... I should have explained that better... curiosity and temptation. But when I said hit the town... I was kind of thinking just a disco and some friendly conversation. But I do like the Escoces idea better. Need to get the past the curiosity stage wondering what Calenas are really like. I've been to Cali, but I was hitched and set up with a chica before I got there so I didnt really get any feel for what meeting a Calena is all about. That's what I'm up for, does that make more sense now? I didnt think so. Your recommendation of Escoces is great. thanks again


[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,

You're dancing all over the place now. You first said you only wanted to hit the town. Then you wanted to check out some hot chicks dancing. Then you said you're faithful to your girl. Then you said you want to sit abd drink with the girls. And now you are asking if Cali is worth checking out a couple of days?



Well my friend you can do it all and enjoy it all but ultimately it's all up to you to decide on a path to follow.