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[QUOTE=Latina Lover7]We are just looking for the best place we can find in Boca Grande. Any info would be greatly appreciated. [/QUOTE]I was thinking much the same, I'll be in town around then.
I had no luck finding anything similar to that penthouse, the closest I found was [url]http://www.laheroica.com[/url]
They seem to be renovated colonial type houses. Look very nice but outrageous prices (from 1 to 6 mil pesos/night! for the whole house)
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]The Bocagrande area is quite nice, chic and sophisticated, with many fine restaurants and shops. This is where most of the better hotels are. However, the rest of the city is a shithole. Centro is dirty, crowded, and dangerous and appears to definitely be a place where it isn't safe to walk around at night. Bosque, which is where I ended up mongering, wasn't a whole lot better. And there doesn't appear to be a lot to do in Cartagena. I find it hard to believe that some people have even compared Cartagena to Rio, although those who did make the comparison found Cartagena lacking. Moreover, the climate is miserable, hot and humid.[/QUOTE]
Earlier this year, I wrote a detailed comparison between Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and Cartagena and posted it in the Rio 2006 section. I still stand by that assessment:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=422385&postcount=25[/url]
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]After reading the options on this board, I decided against LDV for several reasons. I don't like the club scene, and I'm not a late night person, and LDV appears not to get going until around midnight.[/QUOTE]
Going to Cartagena and skipping LDV is like going to Rio without going to Help, which has a similar setup, although it is much larger, of course. Considering that Cartagena is way more limited in terms of P4P, skipping LDV means missing a lot of what Cartagena is all about to, say, 95% to 99% of mongers who go there. Just like skipping Help would be to the vast majority of Rio mongers. Of course, Rio has so much more to offer, P4P-wise, that it doesn't really matter. In Cartagena, it does.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]I'm more of a brothel person, so I decided to go that route. The best option appeared to be Pleyclub (this is the correct name, not Pleyboy Club) in Bosque, which is a combination strip club and brothel.[/QUOTE]
Going to Pleyboy in Cartagena is like going to Barbarella in Copacabana, Rio. It doesn't surprise me in the least that you would pay USD 115 to get laid there, just like it wouldn't surprise me in Barbarella.
[QUOTE=Lorenzo]I didn't monger any more in Cartagena, primarily because it is relatively expensive and after two months of traveling my money was running low. But in all honesty I can't say that I would recommend Cartagena. I'm a guy who has mongered in nearly every country in Latin America, so I'm not speaking from ignorance. If you want to monger in Latin America, go to Rio. It is the pussy capital of the world. If you can't afford Rio, or if you don't want to travel that far, go to El Salvador.[/QUOTE]
As others and myself have reported, there are other (more economical) P4P options available in Cartagena, though needless to say, they are nowhere as plentiful and convenient as in Rio de Janeiro. More specifically, there is no concept comparable to "termas" in Cartagena, and as far as I know, there is no early-afternoon/early-evening point-and-click action for freelancers in Cartagena such as Meia Pataca, Balcony, Mabs, or Veranda Help in Rio. IMHO, there is no place in the world (with the possible exception of Bangkok) that compares to Rio in terms of P4P, and Cartagena certainly is not in the same league, no doubt about it.
You recommend going to El Salvador instead of Cartagena for those who can't afford Rio? Having mongered a bit in ES and a lot in Rio, I disagree, however. Number one, Rio doesn't have to break the bank if you stay away from the most notorious tourist joints and hardcore Copa freelancers preying on bushy-tailed first-time tourists. Number two, as to El Salvador, IMHO, the women just don't compare to Colombianas, and similar rates (like USD 40 to 60) for one hour can be had just as easily in Cartagena as they can be had in El Salvador (though maybe not as conveniently). Good-looking women for the TLN experience (like Lips strippers in San Salvador) tend to ask for just as much (USD 100.00+) as smoking-hot freelancers out of LDV in Cartagena. Overall, I'd say that pricing in ES and Cartagena is pretty similar, though the experience is different: brothel-type places in ES vs. mostly freelancer-geared hangouts in Cartagena. Salvadoreņas aren't colombianas, though. It comes down to personal preferences, I guess.
Rio is Rio, however, with nothing in the Latin world even close. Personally, I think that no one should call himself a savvy monger who hasn't experienced Rio first hand at least once. If Cartagena and ES are minor league (well, maybe with a touch of major league), Rio is the World Series every day of the year.
EA
"Rio is the World Series everyday of the year" Damn, that was to the point, and factual. By the way, I have been to CTG on two different occassions and Rio many times, so I can relate and agree. Laters!
I have to agree with El Austriaco ... sounds like a smart dude.
Especially the part about Cartagena vs. San Salvador ... been to both cities quite a bit ... IMHO the Colombiana in general is much more attractive than the Salvadorania.
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]Going to Cartagena and skipping LDV is like going to Rio without going to Help
EA[/QUOTE]
I have been to Rio a total of 11 times, and I have never been to Help!, and for precisely the same reason that I didn't go to LDV: it doesn't get going until too late. Moreover, I don't think I've missed a thing. I have read myriad reports about Help! on the Rio thread, and it just doesn't offer anything that I want. I'm a termas guy, simple as that.
I read your comparison of Rio and Cartagena. Obviously a lot of effort and thought went into it. I don't disagree with anything you said except that Rio has a preponderance of mulatas. Maybe you meant morenas, in which case you are probably right. However, Rio has such a variety of physical types, from blonde haired blue eyed Scandinavian looking types to coal black women of undiluted African ancestry, and everything in between, including Asians, that someone could be found to satisfy everyone's tastes. I did not see any such variety in Cartagena. And I can't agree that Cartagena women are at all a match for cariocas in beauty. Cartagena women seem to have the edge in only one way: they have luscious breasts, which seem to abound throughout the city. Maybe it's a Darwinian thing. But your conclusion is the same as mine: Rio trumps Cartagena. So we are ultimately in agreement.
My original post on Cartagena was aimed at mongers who had never been to Cartagena before, not to old Cartagena hands. I am well aware that I have nothing to teach an old Cartagena hand. But I think that a monger who has never been to Cartagena before might benefit from my message, which is simply that there are better places to go.
I'll stick by my recommendation of San Salvador over Cartagena if you are mongering on a tight budget. Sure, Cartagena women are finer than Salvadorian on the whole, but that isn't the point. My point was that in San Salvador there are cheap and easily accessible places to get pussy, and you will always find some gems there among the skanks. There may be cheap places in Cartagena too, but they aren't easily accessible; you have to spend some time and look for them. For the traveler who is in a hurry and has a limited amount of time, San Salvador has the edge. Moreover, in San Salvador many of the brothels open at 9am, a marvelous advantage for early risers such as myself. I can get up, go for a swim, get to the brothel at 9am when it opens, bust a nut, then go have breakfast, lounge by the pool, have lunch, then go to the same or another brothel in the afternoon. You can't do this even in Rio.
What it all comes down to is, YMMV. Or, you monger your way and I'll monger mine, and we can still remain friends. But my original advice still stands: if you want to monger in Latin America and money is no object: Rio. If money and time are limited: San Salvador.
Lorenzo
I agree that Rio is the summit.For scores of beauties and awesome beaches it stands alone.Cartagena has more potential for the gfe and imo the chicas are as hot here as anywhere you will go.I really like ctg and will make my third trip there in November.The shorter flight and price plus only having a week off make it ideal....beats the hell out of the DR or San Jose......mule.
Which has the best looking on-pros?
CTG is balls to the wall over New Years, jam-packed and expensive. The holidays at the beach are big in Colombia. But lots of luck finding lodging. I leave town during this time because I don't like the crowds and because I get US$150 to $200 per night for renting my apartment. It is already booked by the way.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]Jan. 1 to 15 is high season - very crowded and high lodging costs. The crowds can drag on to the end of Jan. Feb. and Mar. are perfect. Easter week is high season as well.[/QUOTE]
Im going to take your advice Tom I narrowed it down between Feb and Mar, but I will not find out till the end of this year till I get my vacation picks for 2007.
[QUOTE=Pana Nyc]Im going to take your advice Tom I narrowed it down between Feb and Mar, but I will not find out till the end of this year till I get my vacation picks for 2007.[/QUOTE]Hey Pana,
Some of us are already booked for the first two weeks in Feb 07.
Phoenix
I would go in March. Feburary can be windy as hell..
[QUOTE=Play No Games]Out of curiousity sake where do you go for New Years holiday, and why have you selected Cartagena to be your spot of destination to lay your hat so to speak?[/QUOTE]
I go to Medellin from 12/15 to 1/15. In fact I'm even considering buying an apartment there as well. You can get a nice 2 bedroom, 2 bath for US$20,000 to 40,000 in a decent neighborhood.
I fell in love with CTG when I first came to Colombia about 4 years ago. I especially liked the beach/sea and the safety. I bought my apartment there less than a year after first setting eyes on the city.
And are the beaches nice there? I heard Santa Marta wss nicer but I don't t need the best. Any info will help, even where to stay. I literally have to make a decison in two days.THANKS
Not really, the chicas on the beach are nicer than the actual beaches, unless you take a boat out to Playa blanca or the other islands..
Hey guys,
CTG first-timer coming into town with a friend on Tuesday. I'm a Rio regular but have wanted to try out Colombia for some time. If anyone is around this week and want to grab a drink and checkout the chicas drop me a PM...
Have fun, be safe..
Hammer
PS Thanks in advance for all the great info post on the board !!