Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=The Mind Bender; 1441416]See this is why bartenders annoy me.

They do the same thing but with more hypocrisy.

I'll try your suggestion though, I may have been too aggressive last time[/QUOTE]The hottest girls at the hottest spots are always in demand. Its usually a matter of timing. If they have some dude from NY sending 500usd per month to her, you have to be patient. She will want to be discreet about who / where she fucks. She probably won't risk that 500 per month allotment by being seen going into a Sosua hotel. Offer her a day date to Cabarette. I waited on one bartender six months because she had a boyfriend. But when she realized that we could play outside of Sosua, it was no problem.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1441138]Good contrast of the "Old Sosua" vs. The "New Sosua", although I would add that as Brazil's economy started to boom around the 2007 time frame a lot of Rio mongers got "priced out" of the game and could not afford to travel there anymore. They started looking for cheaper, but similar options and started to remember that "one spot that my homie had been telling me about back in 2004 (Sosua)."

Cheaper, shorter flight; cheaper options. Not like the Rio girls that are getting 300-400R for short time. Although there is always that "one guy" that comes along claiming to be getting the "grand bargin" of 150-200R, having never been to Rio before or able to speak a lick of Porto. It's something that even has the guys that live full time in Rio dumbfounded, which just tells you something else.

But I digress[/QUOTE]My wingmen and I are those guys. We never pay more than $R200. We were in Rio in September.

[QUOTE=Zedman99;1441410]Sosua is a trap for the people who let it be a trap. I will never give a "chica" $$ for me saying no to her and not buying her a drink. And she wants to start trouble just let her try it has nothing to do with being a "tough guy.It has everything to do with being a TARGET for all the hustlers What a joke now you want the monger to just be a target for everything and everybody. [B]I will never listen to your ridiculous advice and I hope the newbies don't either[/B]. Your just setting them up as targets.[/QUOTE]What "advice" retard? How the hell did you read an overview of a situation as "advice"?

Can we PLEASE stop allowing illiterates to obtain passports? If my written assessment of a situation is viewed by someone as advice, then I am in the wrong damn business. I guess I missed my calling as a "Life Coach" and cashing in on that racket.

Alright. So I have it narrowed down to two choices.

Blackbeard's or Tropicaladultvacations.

Advantages of BB (as I see them) :

1) Cost.

Advantages of Tropical:

1) More convenient (in terms of getting there)

2) An all inclusive (both food and women).

Decisions. Decisions.

I think an option would be to try blackbeards first, and then if I don't like it go to the other place.

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[QUOTE=Chotu;1441403]I would say everyone should take MR Gogo advice. Girls are local and they can survive the Police and jail time. Most of the foreigner from USA should not take the risk of dealing with police for 200 pesos.[/QUOTE]I think you have to strike a balance. I got into an argument with a motoconcho driver today because I didn't state the price for a short journey within El Batey for which I always pay 25 pesos, which is the normal price. On arrival at destination, he said it was supposed to be 50 when I put a 25 pesos coin in his hand. I said that was not right, but he stuck to his guns. I didn't raise my voice, and I gave him the 50 pesos, but just made a mental note to avoid him in future.

It is the same with the chicas. You may never get into such a situation, and I can't remember more than one or two, but it is best to look for the easiest way out of the situation and try to avoid it in the future rather to get into conflicts which you may not be able to control even if you believe you are in the right.

The issue with the motoconcho driver was over a matter of an extra 58 cents in US money and although he was dead to rights in the wrong, it wasn't worth letting the situation escalate over 58 cents, because there are plenty of other moto drivers. However if I paid 50 pesos for every 25 peso ride in the future, over the long term this would become rather expensive.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1441460]I think you have to strike a balance. I got into an argument with a motoconcho driver today because I didn't state the price for a short journey within El Batey for which I always pay 25 pesos, which is the normal price. On arrival at destination, he said it was supposed to be 50 when I put a 25 pesos coin in his hand. I said that was not right, but he stuck to his guns. I didn't raise my voice, and I gave him the 50 pesos, but just made a mental note to avoid him in future.

It is the same with the chicas. You may never get into such a situation, and I can't remember more than one or two, but it is best to look for the easiest way out of the situation and try to avoid it in the future rather to get into conflicts which you may not be able to control even if you believe you are in the right.

The issue with the motoconcho driver was over a matter of an extra 58 cents in US money and although he was dead to rights in the wrong, it wasn't worth letting the situation escalate over 58 cents, because there are plenty of other moto drivers. However if I paid 50 pesos for every 25 peso ride in the future, over the long term this would become rather expensive.[/QUOTE]Since I travel a lot in third world country specially Kenya and India. If I get into any trouble I usually prefer paying chica or police on the street instead of going to Police station and than getting stuck with senior police officials. Most of the time my payment are less than $10.

[QUOTE=Chotu;1441466]Since I travel a lot in third world country specially Kenya and India. If I get into any trouble I usually prefer paying chica or police on the street instead of going to Police station and than getting stuck with senior police officials. Most of the time my payment are less than $10.[/QUOTE]Don't let Zedman see this "advice". He may end up having a full-retard epileptic seizure!

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1441447]What "advice" retard? How the hell did you read an overview of a situation as "advice"?

Can we PLEASE stop allowing illiterates to obtain passports? If my written assessment of a situation is viewed by someone as advice, then I am in the wrong damn business. I guess I missed my calling as a "Life Coach" and cashing in on that racket.[/QUOTE]-You said "Ante-Up" when a chica tries to extort $$ from you--that's not advice ??? -and still waiting to hear from the "vets" who've been extorted in the "NEW SOSUA " along with at least a description of the chicas .
------- your personal attacks just prove you don't have a clue.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1441447]What "advice" retard? How the hell did you read an overview of a situation as "advice"?

Can we PLEASE stop allowing illiterates to obtain passports? If my written assessment of a situation is viewed by someone as advice, then I am in the wrong damn business. I guess I missed my calling as a "Life Coach" and cashing in on that racket.[/QUOTE]Damn Savepro, [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] You were " clearly" stating an "observation" I give you shit (jokingly) about "different views and obeervaions" but they are just that "observations" and never advice. I appreciate different opinions here on the board" I think everyones opinion (mostly) are beneficial. It aggravates the help out of me this " I handle any situation cause I'm a "bad ass" and untouchable, is very funny this "tough guy" act is hillarious" I totally get "not being a sucker" but if a so called scam or non scam, have nothing to do with "How macho you are" If you feel that paying a chica to avoid a serious situation" makes you a sucker " than A lot of "us mongers" are tootsie roll suckers. I know I resemble that remark. I've been fortunate to not even come close to a issue needing the police" I think that's been both vigilance and a "stroke of luck"

I understand Bravos point, about a simple conversation, You shouldn't have to pay for a conversation. If that's the case All employment or job interview applicants should " demand" compensation for theirp job consideration! Damn it! My problem is my stupid ass have the habit of half ass making dates I'm thinking nothing was finalize then they show up. Some girls after me realizing I did set it up, I give them motoconcho money money for their travels coming to see me, or "go away pesos" Mr Gogo. 200 pesos is a small amount to pay to make a problem go away completely agree" but these so called "iron balled mongers"gets on here and swears how bad ass they are"but if you start negotiations come to an agreed upon price, I think it's "chicken shit"of a mongers to agree on a price then back out, after a deal is reached. I also side with the chica as well. I think negotiations is far different than saying hello" If that's the case I owe hella pesos, for all the hellos, plus I'm charging them putaz for all the time they grabbed The chocolate jackhammer". Lmao!

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[QUOTE=Frannie; 1441460]I think you have to strike a balance. I got into an argument with a motoconcho driver today because I didn't state the price for a short journey within El Batey for which I always pay 25 pesos, which is the normal price. On arrival at destination, he said it was supposed to be 50 when I put a 25 pesos coin in his hand. I said that was not right, but he stuck to his guns. I didn't raise my voice, and I gave him the 50 pesos, but just made a mental note to avoid him in future.

It is the same with the chicas. You may never get into such a situation, and I can't remember more than one or two, but it is best to look for the easiest way out of the situation and try to avoid it in the future rather to get into conflicts which you may not be able to control even if you believe you are in the right.

The issue with the motoconcho driver was over a matter of an extra 58 cents in US money and although he was dead to rights in the wrong, it wasn't worth letting the situation escalate over 58 cents, because there are plenty of other moto drivers. However if I paid 50 pesos for every 25 peso ride in the future, over the long term this would become rather expensive.[/QUOTE]-Apparently you didn't know him-but he did "Provide" a service to you and you know on many occasions the "moto" guys like to charge the gringos more that's a given-especially if you don't ask upfront-But pay a 'chica' for nothing.extorting money.that I can't agree with and if the opportunity arises she tries to extort me the fun will start.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1441285]I think both of you gentlemen make valid points, and I see the logic behind both stances. On the one hand Bravo makes a valid point about holding your ground, and not allowing yourself to be exploited to avoid creating a presidence for these girls to repeat. If you present yourself as an easy target to these sharks then you will not only endanger yourself, but all your fellow mongers by labeling us as pushovers. The most important fact that I think you are overlooking Bravo and what I believe that Tomjackin is trying to convey to you is that you are not in Kansas anymore Dorothy. The normal rules that apply at home are out the window in a 3rd world country man. If you're expecting to get a fair and just deliberation of the scenario then you will be totally disappointed, because what you will find is an unorganized, unjust, and completely corrupt and bias verdict that is almost guranteed to cost you way more money than the $5 you started all the hoopla about in the first place. Pick your battles bro and why put so much energy into something that is more than likely going to ruin your night and maybe even whole vacation and life. The KEY is to stay low KEY, when in rome and all that jazz bro. Instaed of being noticed as the Gringo who stuck to his guns, your better off barely being noticed at all.

Azazel[/QUOTE]My brother, its all about balancing out the equation. I am not too concerned about being extorted myself, I don't come across as an easy target. I have been in this monger game for a minute and have never experienced some of the BS extortion / police games that others are writing about. The reason why I posted was to give Newbies a different viewpoint.

If 10 guys on this board are saying "Anytime a girl pouts, crosses her arms and stamps her foot. Throw money at her so she doesn't call the police!" I feel it would be a disservice if I didn't say "You don't always have to give your hard earned money away. There are other ways of handling things."

I am well aware of the fact that the DR is 3rd world country and that I can not expect the legal system to work the way it does in the states. I also know that if you make yourself an easy mark, the word will spread like wild fire and then you will be known for handing out money. If you weren't willing to stand up for yourself when they asked for 100 pesos, the girls know you will punk out when they start asking for 1000 pesos!

[QUOTE=Zedman99; 1441478]-You said "Ante-Up" when a chica tries to extort $$ from you-that's not advice?.and still waiting to hear from the "vets" who've been extorted in the "NEW SOSUA " along with at least a description of the chicas.

. Your personal attacks just prove you don't have a clue.[/QUOTE]Your missing the point dude. It's not about vets being extorted, it's about giving guys a heads up and why I believe it is best to handle it a different way. Wzr2005 and I both wrote about this happening at Rumba. Now answer my question that you have been avoiding please. How can you put all your hopes into corrupt cops doing the right thing? Please explain.

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1441489]My brother, its all about balancing out the equation. I am not too concerned about being extorted myself, I don't come across as an easy target. I have been in this monger game for a minute and have never experienced some of the BS extortion / police games that others are writing about. The reason why I posted was to give Newbies a different viewpoint.

If 10 guys on this board are saying "Anytime a girl pouts, crosses her arms and stamps her foot. Throw money at her so she doesn't call the police!" I feel it would be a disservice if I didn't say "You don't always have to give your hard earned money away. There are other ways of handling things."

I am well aware of the fact that the DR is 3rd world country and that I can not expect the legal system to work the way it does in the states. I also know that if you make yourself an easy mark, the word will spread like wild fire and then you will be known for handing out money. If you weren't willing to stand up for yourself when they asked for 100 pesos, the girls know you will punk out when they start asking for 1000 pesos![/QUOTE]-your right Bravo-Where do you draw the line? I agree with you totally-Don't even let them start that shit. And I hope the "NEWBIES" take heed to this post and other ones like mine that say-Your not being a tough guy-You just don't want to be a "TARGET" .And no cops going to side with the chica especially for that little bit of $$$$ and no service rendered.

-About not paying and going to jail-that's bull-name one example somebody-there wouldn't be any mongers there anymore-Again Bravo I'm with you 110 % Hope the newbies read and absorb

[quote=mr gogo; 1441221]no one has said pay a girl for casual conversations. What has been said is that if you spend time negotiating a deal and come to an agreement with this girl, there may be consequences for reneging on your end of the deal. We are all grown adults buying pussy, not little kids playing games. My point that has been here is that it is best to checkout the scene and be alone until you are prepared to take the step into negotiating a deal.

Sit back and see who the aggressive and hardcore girls are. Looks don't trump hardcore, aggressive chicas to me. Most guys see the big ass and pretty face and tend to disregard all the other tells. Recipe for disaster. It might be that quiet, laid back. Girl alone in the corner that is the one, but guys don't even see her because she just looks average. Sosua has traps so you better be careful. Just like we don't like girls that change the deal in the room, the same respect is due to the girl in the negotiating process. The only difference is she knows how to play a corrupt game better than you do.

Okay suppose you back out a deal saying" i've changed my mind". Now you have an unpredictable dominicana pissed. She wants 100p to move on but you refuse the buyout. Now she is making a scene and grabbing bottles. Security comes over and both of you threaten to call the police. Now when the police come you have to add another "zero" to the buyout thats now at least 1000p. You are still stubborn and you both are taken to the station on the highway. You plead your case, but the policia are just waiting to see if you are "connected", and who comes to your rescue. After three hours the girl is back to rumba and you are laying on a cold slab behind a bar door cussing yourself for not paying that initial 100p. Now the lawyers and judge are involved trying to figure the price for you to tap out. Do you are sent to puerto plata jail on a 24 hour hold. There are 50 dominicans in 20x20 cell. A bucket is in the middle as a community bathroom. Hopefully you aren't in one of the outside cages because the mosquitoes have no mercy. Food has to be brought in by friends. Now the powers say it will cost 2000 usd to be released. Belive me, you are calling everyone desperate for 2000usd. Then when you get 2000usd they tell you thats jist for your release from jail, but they are going to keep your passport. It's another 5000usd gor your passport so now you have to beg more but no one is fucking going to help you because you are caught in a never ending web. You have been broken as a man because you didn't want to pay a girl 100p to get out of a deal you reneged on.

Play games if you want but odds are that eventually you are going to crap out.[/quote]where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit!