Kyiv

Is it spending 3-4 days in Kiev worth it? I will be in Warsaw for about 3 weeks, but I have never been to Ukraine, and speak zero Russian. I was in Moscow and SPB last year with pretty good success.

I am getting a lot of PMs about Kiev. I will be happy to answer but if there is a delay, it is not intentional. Our little group is still on tour. It was two week trip. I wish we had spent all two weeks in Kiev ha ha but uncertainty about Kiev made us split our trip into a Kiev plus FKK trip. I believe I have posted about that during trip planning. We are are friends and business partners from US, UK and Denmark. A fourth friend from UK joined us in Frankfurt. We are doing FRA now followed by DUS. So I may be a bit busy and internet in FKKs are not reliable and not all of them have wifi. We go back to our native countries on May 6th and I will have more time to answer.

I miss Kiev but god you can't beat the ease of FKKs. Fucking efficient. Literally.

[QUOTE=Johndoe9021;2030012]Is it spending 3-4 days in Kiev worth it? I will be in Warsaw for about 3 weeks, but I have never been to Ukraine, and speak zero Russian. I was in Moscow and SPB last year with pretty good success.[/QUOTE]Kiev is a hell of a lot better than Warsaw, so yes, it's certainly worth the short journey. I would caveat that with the following:

1) Whilst Russian isn't essential, you would be doing yourself a favor investing in an app or a russian dictionary. Familiarise yourself with the phrases you're likely to need (I'd like a beer please etc).

2) Sign up for Mamba and hit up some girls in advance to ensure you have numbers.

3) Go back 30 pages and read about the nightlife here to find out which bars to hit.

4) PM senior members for advice.

5) Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2030216]I am getting a lot of PMs about Kiev. I will be happy to answer but if there is a delay, it is not intentional. Our little group is still on tour. It was two week trip. I wish we had spent all two weeks in Kiev ha ha but uncertainty about Kiev made us split our trip into a Kiev plus FKK trip. I believe I have posted about that during trip planning. We are are friends and business partners from US, UK and Denmark. A fourth friend from UK joined us in Frankfurt. We are doing FRA now followed by DUS. So I may be a bit busy and internet in FKKs are not reliable and not all of them have wifi. We go back to our native countries on May 6th and I will have more time to answer.

I miss Kiev but god you can't beat the ease of FKKs. Fucking efficient. Literally.[/QUOTE]Hey Vitrea,

Let me know if you go to FKK Sharks whilst in Frankfurt and if you see Brenda (ex-Leya). Can't miss her if she is there. Straight raven mid-body length hair; slight asian facial features eventhough she's Romanian; stunning body with narrow waist and natural DDs / E cup titties, no tats. A solid 9 overall in optics. Maybe a 9+ for the tits alone. A lot hotter than Sharmina from your Living Room days. YMMV but if you have plenty of dough, she will treat you well. I'll be back in Europe in a few weeks time and checking to see if she is back from her Easter break. So if you get a visual, let me know. Better still, try her out.

Also I would recommend Mio from Germany if you make it back to Goldentime Bruggen near Dusseldorf and if she is back there from her Zurich Globe tour. Can't miss her. She's drop dead gorgeous with platinum blond hair, petite with A/B cup titties and loads of tats.

By the way, sent you a PM. Not been back to Kiev since 2009 during the glory days of River Palace. Tempted to make a side trip back here plus Belgrade in early to mid June. Still reminiscing about my overnight bookings with really hot girls from Vodka Escort when they were based in Kiev and Odessa back before then (now they are just a touring business but still with some hot models). Man, those were the days.

Howie.

I arrive in Kiev next weekend the 13th, I'm interested in meeting someone that is here chasing tail. I'm 42, extrovert alpha male from the USA and I'm coming to get myself into shenanigans. If anyone wants to have a beer or chase pussy, let me know. Private message please.

At least some (but perhaps many) of the girls in mamba employ writers to respond to incoming thousand of messages.

I found this because a long-time friend of mine in mamba suddenly failed to recognize me.

And the writer confessed that he or she is just a proxy.

This may explain why a girl is very talkative in one night but completely silent the next week.

These girls are not interested in establishing a steady relationship with their clients, but just keen on getting a client quickly on the night.

Although Mamba is also saturated with some escort agencies, they are not annoying so much, because they swiftly guide me to their Viber / Whatsapp numbers.

As a result, I do not have to waist much time.

[QUOTE=Deer1234;2031145]At least some (but perhaps many) of the girls in mamba employ writers to respond to incoming thousand of messages.

I found this because a long-time friend of mine in mamba suddenly failed to recognize me.

And the writer confessed that he or she is just a proxy.

This may explain why a girl is very talkative in one night but completely silent the next week.

These girls are not interested in establishing a steady relationship with their clients, but just keen on getting a client quickly on the night.

Although Mamba is also saturated with some escort agencies, they are not annoying so much, because they swiftly guide me to their Viber / Whatsapp numbers.

As a result, I do not have to waist much time.[/QUOTE]With a bit of experience, it's not difficult to differentiate a real girl from everything else. The photos and chit chat usually give it away. Sadly, I no longer can get the right girls to reply back.

Back in Kyiv, decided to hit the trifecta of strip clubs on my first night. Rio, Mandarin, & the new one Scarlette at the President Hotel. Of course $, could have been better spent elsewhere but sometimes that is the price you pay to survey the scene. Scarlette was better than expected, the club was nice inside, the girls on par with what you would expect at Rio & Mandarin. 300 uah entry & 500 uah private dances. Spent a few hours here then off to the other two clubs. Made a stop at Buddha Bar in between, saw four girls working the bar around midnight. Didn't ask the prices as they were not my type. Saw a few decent looking girls on Mamba, of course not their real photos. Ask & they will send photos through viber or whatsapp. Prices quoted were anywhere from $100-$150 an hour. Not really value for money especially considering the quality. Will check out the salons tomorrow night. Didn't go home empty handed as I met a fresh new 19 yr old blonde named Sonia. Said she just started this week, seemed believable because of her youth & inexperience but still a great session none the less.

[QUOTE=Kobebryant2000;2031509]Back in Kyiv, ..... Didn't go home empty handed as I met a fresh new 19 yr old blonde named Sonia. Said she just started this week, seemed believable because of her youth & inexperience but still a great session none the less.[/QUOTE]You did not say where and how you landed her?

I found her or I should say that she found me walking along Kreschatyk. The street is blocked off in preparation for the Euro Vision festivities next week. I'm sure she probably works for an agency although I'm not 100% sure but I do have her contact info and she can be reached by whatsapp! I would be happy to share any contact info. It's extremely rare to be approached here, at least out in public. Session was good but doubt I will repeat as lots of other choices out there! Will try my luck at a few clubs tonight. I think I spotted your Mila Kunis lookalike at Rio, strong resemblance except for a few tattoos!

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2031567]You did not say where and how you landed her?[/QUOTE].

Here's the problem with the logic that you have "to pay" in Kiev. In my own home scene, I would have to meet almost five high end girls to find one keeper. In the middle end, the numbers are exactly the same. About five duds before you find a winner and that's at half the cost. I don't have that much field experience in Kiev, but for what I have, the numbers have been the same. Funny how members have found stunners, but have little substance to share as to their services and personality. Whatever happened to photos of regular girls sitting in a monger's apartment?

Like this, Apt 274 PGH.

Yes, it can happen. Unfortunately for most of us on this board, the most valuable commodity we have is time, whether it's a few days, a week or even a month. Scoring freebies in Kiev certainly involves time or being in the right place at the right time. Whether it's in a nightclub, a shopping mall or on my last visit back in October, I ended up at Coyote Ugly after a rather disappointing & uneventful visit to Shooters. I saw a slightly above average brunette wearing a skimpy red dress drinking all alone. Keep in mind Average in Kiev is another level than your average back home in the states. Anyhow, after chatting her up using google translator, & buying myself & her zero drinks, as she paid for her own. Somehow we decided to split a taxi. I was to be dropped off first & then she would go on to her apartment. No idea if she lived alone, with her friends, or even with her parents. Somehow during the ten minute ride I convinced her to come inside to have another drink. When we entered the room, I made us both a drink then put on some music. A few minutes later she asked if I wanted a massage? Immediately I'm thinking this girl is working & only wants money. When I asked her how much? Her face turned bright red, & she became angry & said she wasn't a prostitute. Still I wasn't convinced but it took ten minutes to defuse the situation. Anyhow I offered her a massage instead. Off came the red dress & she was laying face down on my bed in a bra and panties. After about ten minutes of massaging her back, upper thighs and arms, I let my fingers explore a bit beneath her panties, she never stopped me. Next thing I know my cock is in her mouth & I'm fingering her. She asked if I had a condo. I fucked her for about 30 minutes in a variety of positions. Afterwards she took a quick shower then came out of the bathroom & said she had to go to class as it was near 7 am! Not sure what university starts that early but she didn't even ask for taxi money. So, yes it's possible to get freebies in Kiev however in my experiences and travels, you will certainly end up paying one way or another in Kiev or anywhere else, whether it's with dinner, drinks, shopping, or a combination of all three! I've had numerous Mamba & vkontakte girls ask me for a new iPhone! I guess I must look like an iPhone Santa!

Good post, but in Kiev, I would say closer to 15-20 girls, to find a keeper and without local knowledge, maybe even higher.

Hello everyone,

I'm new to this forum and I'm in Kiev now for hooking up. Yesterday I called a girl from site relaxkiev to my apartment and it turned out her photos were fake.

I'm wondering if there's anybody in Kiev now for girls and maybe we can make efforts looking for hot girls together? I will stay until May. 16th.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2031826]

I'm wondering if there's anybody in Kiev now for girls and maybe we can make efforts looking for hot girls together? I will stay until May. 16th.[/QUOTE]You've failed the first test. You've arrived in (what I assume is) a new city having done little to no research.

Go back 50 pages, read the information contained within, proceed newly armed with everything you'll need to do your own hunting.