Manila

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2274137]LAC is my bar of last resort. I haven't been there in a few years, but I'd almost rather spend the evening alone, catching up on sleep. I hope the beer was cold, at least.[/QUOTE]Yes, I was quite disappointed when I was there in December, too. Have all the better ones transferred to social media?

Thanks to those who gave input on my SW query around Carriedo. I've stayed in the Philippines before for several months at a time and had some good times with streetwalkers in Cebu, I thought it would be something to check out while in in town. I've had a wacky few days in Manila, my first day I knocked a pedicab driver silly for lunging at me, witnessed by a cop and other pedestrians near Robinsons. I had to pick him up off the street and move him to the side to keep him from walking back into traffic. The cop just motioned for me to carry on and leave him so I got out of there as quickly as I could. I looked over as I was walking away and saw the cop standing over him saying something, he did not look too concerned. My first stop was LA, early evening and as expected, I did not really dig the vibe in there so I sat around for a few minutes pretending to read the menu and left.

I had a quick beer at a 711 and wandered around the area a bit before heading out to Carriedo area and the nearby Rizal and Recto streets to check out SW action.

The first one I found outside Kamagong Hotel, close to the LRT exit, was chubby, petite with good legs, not a bad looker with long black hair but clearly with a bit of a gut. She had a mamasan, I negotiated 400 from 500 and had to follow her through some nearby alleys into a local neighborhood with small st guesthouse. It was a shitty room with no ac, the type people use for sex or to do drugs in. Mattress was uncovered vinyl type cushion, wooden door with latch lock and very dim light hanging from a wire on the ceiling. I paid 150 for the room, the woman out front gave us a key and some folded tissues. There was a separate toilet that had no light.

Despite being well lit, I was a bit worried about the neighborhood and how deep it was from the main thoroughfare, I had taken all the precautions before this trip to pack anything too expensive, clothes, sandals, packed an older camera body and lens combo but on the morning of my flight I had absent mindedly put on my breitling with a rubber strap, similar in feel to the Garmin watch I had bought and charged the day before. I thought about leaving it in the room safe but decided to just wear it, moving it to my belt loop when going to shifty places like this.

Right as we were getting started, there was a knock on the door, mamasan had followed us and demanded a tip of 50 pesos. I relented a bit but didn't feel like making a thing of it, so I gave it to her and told her to go away. At this point I had opened my folding knife I carry with me and put it down on the little table and covered it with a handkerchief ready in case something popped off.

I was charged another 50 for the condom by the girl, her attitude had changed and she was hurrying me and swore a lot. She was quite tight and despite not taking her top off, I was sufficiently turned on. Probably better that she kept it on as I am not a fan of girls with flabby stomachs. Anyway, the heat and the whole situation just made it hard to cum. Add to that after about 3 minutes she kept hurrying me even more and complained when I asked for a position change, we argued a bit before resuming but not without her continuing to swear and try to rush me. After about 8 minutes, I still could not cum she complained again and started to get up. I'd had enough at this point and didn't really care so I got up as well, unsheathed and threw the 50 peso condom at her before she was able to pull her skirt down and get out. It took me a while to get my shorts on and make sure I had all my shit with me, by the time I got to the exit she was there talking to two guys. I had my knife out, holding it under my shirt so it was not so obvious. Thankfully I passed them without anything happening, navigated my way out of the neighborhood and found the main street to get the fuck out of there.

I usually try to find SW action when I visit a place but this was quite a shitty experience, not at all like the ones in Cebu 15 years ago. I did have a slightly better one a week later when I found myself in the area after visiting Binondo. On the corner of Recto and Rizal, near the Mcdonald's, another chubby girl, made a strong pitch, talking about good sex and putting her hands on me right there on the street. No other options at the time so I bit. This time we went to a short time hotel near the main roads. Paid 200 pesos for two hours, the room was not much better but it had an AC and bed covers (torn and not fully on covering the bed). I had negotiated 500 for two rounds but did not really expect her to keep to it. Like the first one her attitude changed when we got on the room, wanted to hurry but she did not swear as much and made some jokes in between. I made the mistake of asking her if she was high right in the middle of fucking. She immediately stopped me and got up, turned on the light which she had demanded to turn off at the start and ask if I had any meth on saying she would blow me and do all sorts of stuff if we could use. She asked me three or four times to show her if I had any on me. I made it clear I had none and was only there to fuck so she turned off the light disappointed and let me finish. She tried to get me to go in with her to buy some meth afterwards, talking all sorts of shit about good stuff available nearby and all that plus extra sex and how she didn't charge me 50 for the condom etc.

Not great experiences but I had to try. Not a whole lot of options that I saw on the three or four days I went by, mostly chubby girls, late 20's and up, sometimes I passed by the area and there was nobody available. Maybe my timing was off or maybe action there is not as good as it once was.

I went back to LA during my stay and had some wechat and a tinder girl which I'll write about next.

[QUOTE=Goons;2274168].............. my first day I knocked a pedicab driver silly for lunging at me...................[/QUOTE]You certainly live up to your nom de plume.

[QUOTE=DCups;2274140]Yes, I was quite disappointed when I was there in December, too. Have all the better ones transferred to social media?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I think "the better ones" are just becoming very rare period: online, in person, or anywhere. Obesity and motherhood have taken a very serious toll on the prostitution poll in the PI over the last 5 years.

Red Kilt. Sorry that the smokey haze in LAC doesn't agree with you, but the new laws are a real pain. Not being able to smoke hardly anywhere now. LAC is the only place so far I have come across where you can smoke with a cold one. Somebody told me you can get a ticket for smoking while just walking down the street. What has happened to our beloved Phils where everything goes??

Dg8787 - Nothing wrong with slanty eyes except when the husband asks why!!

Goons. You got balls of STEEL man! I have always stuck to the short time hotels along Rizal and thought that was risky enough. Going back to unknown area, wow, glad you got out alive.

Goferring. It was good to meet you. You are a decent bloke and my first ISGer to meet in person. We barhopped along Burgos and despite Goferring saying he is somewhat of a lightweight, he outlasted me. We found the best bar of the night was XOXO. Really hopping with fun girls. I never barfined anybody, choosing rather the cheaper option with a SW whom I negotiated down to 1000. She must have weighed only about 80 lbs. After the deed at the hotel back in Malate, she said she was going back for another customer because she needs 2000. So sorry about the sloppy seconds whoever you are. See pic in Photo Gallery.

Backing up a bit, I landed at midnight, got to the hotel, walked to LAC, mightily contributed to the smokey haze for a short time, picked out a girl, taxi back to hotel and she was gone. All of this in about 2 hours from touchdown! I just had to get my first notch of the trip out of the way. Overpaid (2500) for ST but she was very pretty and nice body. After all I have said about the lack of condom use, she insisted on using one. I tried every trick in the book to get out of it, but went ahead just to get it over with. I put it just on the tip and hoped it would come off while going doggy style but it stayed on.

Yesterday I met a new Facebook contact that I connected with and started chatting with 1 week prior to the trip. She came to SM mall (2 hrs by transpo, what a GOOD girl) and didn't ask me for shit prior which is always a good sign. We ate at Padi's Point and she drank 3 x SM Apples (3% Nice lay back at the hotel, very short 4'-9" and 40 kg, 19 years old. Love those tiny little bodies. Has 2 kids but very little evidence of it. The eldest is 5 years old (got preggy at 14? She laughed and said yes) and the youngest is 2 but her dad took it away from her (didn't get the story). Really nice girl, clean, never asked for anything, the typical very shy with the white guy attitude which was very boring at first. Then we went to the casino / bar where there was a live band and after 2 x long island iced teas, she was more herself. Cute as a button, even with her schoolgirl glasses on. Kept me warm all night with a repeat in the AM, despite the hangover lingering. We enjoyed the hotel free breakfast buffet and then I kicked her out. I love seeing these girls eat up healthily at the hotel buffets and not stuffing themselves with cheap rice. Probably the best meal they will have for a long time.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2274328]Unfortunately I think "the better ones" are just becoming very rare period: online, in person, or anywhere. Obesity and motherhood have taken a very serious toll on the prostitution poll in the PI over the last 5 years.[/QUOTE]Or maybe the "improving" Philippine economy has kept many of the "better" ones off the market. Obesity and motherhood are not new to the Philippines, so perhaps they're merely symptoms of a changing market rather than the cause of its decline.

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2274413]Or maybe the "improving" Philippine economy has kept many of the "better" ones off the market. Obesity and motherhood are not new to the Philippines, so perhaps they're merely symptoms of a changing market rather than the cause of its decline.[/QUOTE]I don't think it has improved much at all. Looks worse than ever to me, even if they did manage to kill thousand of so-called undesirables.

I'll believe the economy improved when taxis use the meter and some of the 1/10 of the country's population that ran overseas for greener pastures goes home.

More likely the reasons I stated.

". large number of obese persons in the country—18 million Filipinos are obese and overweight. The Philippines remains very much focused on battling its long-standing problem of malnutrition, while at the same time bearing the burden of increasing rates of obesity. " [URL]https://businessmirror.com.ph/obese-filipinos-now-ballooning/[/URL].

"The Philippines faces an obesity and overweight prevalence of 5. 1 percent and 23.6 percent" [URL]http://manilastandard.net/news/national/241642/-ph-faces-obesity-overweight-prevalence-.html[/URL].

One out of four is pretty damn high!

"While teen pregnancy rates in most countries are declining, the numbers are rising in the Philippines. According to reports, about 500 Filipino teenagers become mothers every day. That's about 182,500 teenage mothers every year. . One in five teenage girls in Palawan is pregnant or already has a child. " [URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/young-poor-pregnant-teen-mums-philippines-180123080457459.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=RickRock;2274435]"The Philippines faces an obesity and overweight prevalence of 5. 1 percent and 23.6 percent" [URL]http://manilastandard.net/news/national/241642/-ph-faces-obesity-overweight-prevalence-.html[/URL].

One out of four is pretty damn high!

[/QUOTE]I guess it is all relative. In the US, 2/3 girls are overweight with 1/3 of those overweights being obese.

The remaining 1/3 is already married.

[QUOTE=Free2;2274360]............ After all I have said about the lack of condom use, she insisted on using one. I tried every trick in the book to get out of it.................[/QUOTE]Who says hooking is not a dangerous occupation.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2274566]I guess it is all relative. In the US, 2/3 girls are overweight with 1/3 of those overweights being obese.

The remaining 1/3 is already married.[/QUOTE]Yea but I don't live there, and I certainly wouldn't go there to pay for sex.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2274566]I guess it is all relative. In the US, 2/3 girls are overweight with 1/3 of those overweights being obese.

The remaining 1/3 is already married.[/QUOTE]Most of the the married ones are also overweight and many are obese from what I have seen. Very few slim ones. It's lard-ass central.

Yamachu Spa.

Must try! They have an Entry + Massage deal for 850 and Entry + Massage + Scrub deal for 1200. I picked the latter. Its a Japanese-style spa and you undress completely in the sex-segregated wet area. I was a little skeptical of being naked around other men but it was no big deal. On the contrary, I found it particularly relaxing to be completely naked without any sexual angle. Makes you feel human again. They have a cold water pool (more like a big tub), a hot water pool, and another very hot water pool. There is a sauna and steam room and a room where they do the scrubs. The hot pools were actually really hot, and so were the sauna / steam. The scrub was strictly okay (barely 15 minutes) and was done by a guy in the mens' wet area. The massage was in the common massage room (you dress up in the shorts and shirt they give you) and was excellent. Probably the best massage I have had in the Philippines. They also have a smoking lounge and an excellent sleeping room with leather recliner. I laughed the previous night when a saleswoman told me that I could sleep in there because I didn't get the point of paying to sleep when I have a nice hotel room. But after the massage and before the second stint in the wet area, the sleep area was perfect. They give you a blanket and hot or cold tea for free, or you can order a drink. Strongly recommended place to relax. The mild irritant was that the masseuse, scrub fellow, and helpers all ask for a tip. I am happy to tip for good service (like the masseuse) but reject the "I am here so you have to tip me" mindset.

Abacca Massage.

Has been described before on the forum. I took the 80 min signature massage (1,200 pesos) and it was actually a good back massage followed by a light "prostate massage" - more like running fingers through my butt crack and touching the taint. And then on the flip you get a regular hand job. Overall it wasn't noteworthy but wasn't bad either. I like massage places where release is a part of the regimen and I really dislike places that make you wear those silly shorts! So, I might return for a good massage when I am in town next. Good reliable place for 1,200. Very clean, professional, and no tips expected.

Geisha Massage.

OK, I took one for the team! I did a lot of research but couldn't find a detailed review on Geisha Massage, or any of the other Nuru Nuru Massage places in Manila, on ISG, or other forums. I stopped by in the day time and was quoted 2,000 for the 90 min session. No masseuses were available and I was asked to come after 6 pm. Decided to check it out on my last night in Manila. Went there around 8:30 pm and was quoted 2,500 pesos. I insisted that online reviews say 2,000 and they agreed to the price. They confirmed that the actual massage time was 60 minutes, and the 90 minutes starts the minute you enter the room. The other 30 minutes are set aside for extras that you negotiate directly with the masseuse. I paid the money and picked a masseuse based on the photos on their website. Had to wait a few minutes before their service vehicle was available. Got into the service vehicle (AC running full blast. Nice) and Katrina joined me with the black bag with mattress cover and accessories. She started playing with her phone and gave short replies to my small talk questions. Ughhh! I had a sinking feeling. I tried to stay upbeat, smile, and engage her in a conversation. We drove a few minutes to a local love motel and waited until the driver paid for the room and gave us the keys. A staff member from the hotel took us to the room and gave us two small bottles of water. I drank the water - 10 pesos recovered!

Once in the room, she turned on the shower and laid the mattress cover on the bed. I offered to help but she refused. Then she asked me to undress and undressed herself too. She had a nice body with soft and slightly sagging boobs, regular butt, some extra fat on the tummy, and a hairy pussy. She washed me in a very mechanical and somewhat superficial manner. Right when she was washing junior, the fone rang and she walked out. She came back a few minutes later and the phone rang again! As I was drying off, she showered and gave me a dirty look when I tried to touch her boobs. She asked me to lie down on the mattress and turned off the AC before putting the towel on my back and giving me a horrible massage. She literally ran her fingers on me for the next 10 minutes. I am convinced that was a time-wasting tactic. Then she put the Nuru Gel on my back and legs and rubbed it over me for 10 minutes more. Finally, she used her breasts over my body. Starting with my back, bottom, legs, and the back. She used her hands to get Jr. Excited for a couple of minutes. On the flip, she again used her boobs on my legs and then belly and chest. She did not use her bottom or crotch at all. Which to me is the most fun part of a B2 B massage. While her boobs felt nice, I would have loved to feel the rest of her body. The total rubbing with boobs was certainly less than 10 minutes. Not to mention her phone rang twice during the "massage" and the bed creaked with every little move.

When an hour was up, she asked me if I wanted extras. She insisted that the massage is only 50 minutes and informed me that a HJ was 2,000 and "all the way" is 5,000 pesos. I refused and said I was ready to shower and leave. She lowered the HJ tip to 1,500 and I still said not interested. So she said that I still had to tip her and asked how much will I give her. I said I am not sure but I will tip her. She insisted on the figure and I finally told her 200 (10% of the 2,000 cost). She laughed and said it was too less and I pointed out that the actual massage is also too less. Besides I had paid 2,000 for her services. We went to the shower where she helped me a bit and then her phone rang. I took a nice long hot shower to get the gel off me and dressed up. She did the same and we had some small talk when she was dressing up. I asked her if she gets many customers and her answer was "no customers. " Well, I know why! She was pretty hairy and said that she doesn't like the gel touching her pussy and she is afraid it will get in! We walked back to the car and drove to the shop and I walked away without looking at her. This is certainly THE worst experience across my trips to the Philippines.

It seems to me that the 2,000 is pocketed by the spa and the girls are completely reliant on tips. So, they have little interest in the massage and just want to rush to collect money for extras and tips. The spas cover / excuse is "It depends on the girl. " Very unethical business! I would never return to this place, or other similar places in Manila. It would be nice to see an Abacca like Nuru Nuru place where you get the full 60 minutes of B2 B massage that ends in a decent HJ or more.

LA Cafe.

I am not into the bar pick-up and late-night scene. But I went, I saw, I conquered. Found a bar stool at the back to enjoy my SML and see what's going on. The SMLs are 90 before 8 pm and 130 after. I turned down a few smiles but couldn't get a 30 year old on the slightly heavy side to go away. She said that she was from Cebu and came here once every few months to make money. This trip was to arrange her papers to go back to Qatar to work. She actually showed me the papers later! I prefer younger and slim girls with A / be cups and was thirsting for one. But her attitude and charm won me over. Maybe her puffy nipples on extra firm see cups did and her insisting that she was perfectly smooth shaved and letting me stick a figure in to confirm. While still at LAC. I like semi-public play. I took her number and told her I will call her the next day. She left but came back 10 minutes later saying that I was the best fit for her in the room! LOL. She started at 4,000 for the night and we settled at 2,000 - two rounds at night and one in the morning. It was a friendly negotiation with my hands clutching her firm buttocks (I had pulled her panties up her crack already) and her hands on my chest under the polo shirt. She insisted on walking out and meeting me at the Shawarma place. Not sure why! I settled my tab and took another walk around the bar. I liked one other girl who smiled back at me. I quickly took her number and walked over to see my girl. There were 5-6 doable chicas there. We picked up more beer on our way. She insisted on buying from 7-11 rather than LAC because its cheaper there. I picked out condoms and she said no need, I have them. Fair enough (and I had some backups with me at the hotel) so I didn't buy them. I liked her frugal and caring attitude!

Once in the room, we had a nice shower together. She had her own Betadine antiseptic wash which she used on herself and me. She washed my dick, balls, and bottom at least three times. We started with her giving me a toe-curling BBBJ. She also sucked my balls (sometimes too hard) and licked my taint. She was ready to suck me to glory but I wanted to tap her pussy. She insisted on missionary and I gave her an intense 30+ minute pounding. She came 3+ times and used her fingers to rub her clit while I was pounding away. Her fingers hurt my belly a little but I was so turned on by her natural movements and thrusts. We lay for a couple of minutes before she dragged me back to the bathroom for another soaping and betadine wash! Then, she gave me a good 45 min massage while drinking her beer. She had worked at a regular massage parlor in Cebu earlier and was very good at it. At the end of the massage, I was ready to go for the second round. We went to sleep around 2 am after almost 3. 5 hours of fun. She took a sleeping pill before calling it a night and woke up 8 ish for another round of intense pounding where she came several times. We quickly showered and I put the money in her purse. She didn't count but thanked me and gave me a hug while I pulled her dress down to have one last view and suck her amazingly puffy nipples. As soon as we went to the lobby and stepped out, she jumped into a waiting cab and dashed off. The cab piece was a real surprise to me! Another sign that she was a semi-pro. I have her on WeChat and would love to connect in the future.

DIA.

This was the first time I could not pull a decent girl from DIA. In the past, I have pulled a 22 yr old Japanese-Filipino model and sex maniac who stayed with me for the entire time as well as several one or two night stands with 21 - 27 year olds. Last trip I hooked up with a gorgeous 23 yr old with the perfect be cups and incredibly tight pussy. Only cost me meals and attraction entrance fees while having an outstanding GFE experience. While I had been talking to past flames, they just stopped talking at some point and probably blocked me. I had a DIA girl meet me at the airport but she just didn't match her photos and had put on too much weight. We did a late night fuck and an excellent early morning BBBJ that she had learned from watching porn. She genuinely enjoyed sucking and playing with my dick. While she was interested in meeting again, I just didn't feel like it. I met three other women from DIA but they were looking for husbands and were very conservative with their sexuality. Also, it seemed like all their photos were photoshopped or misleading and they were much larger than their pics made you believe. I met one lady twice and we just couldn't communicate / she was too cold for my taste. So, DIA was a disappointment. I also felt that 1) the number of ladyboys had gone way down (welcome relief), and 2) the women in general were very serious and looking for husbands. I received one and only one p2 p offer on DIA for 4 K for ST which I turned down.

WeChat.

I received 8 WeChat friend requests in the Robinsons Malate vicinity and they were all professionals. They start with roundabout talk about how they need money and then ask if I want a massage and then slip in extras. The ask was generally very high or they were ladyboys. I would certainly explore this avenue further but meet in a public place first rather than inviting straight to the room. The Ladyboys were very pushy even after I told them I was not interested. One kept messaging me every few minutes as to why I didn't like ladyboys! I just had to delete her.

Robinsons Malate / Starbucks side.

Plenty of SWs and FLs around Starbucks and the street outside. Seemed like most had mamasans with them. The going price was 2 k for short time and 4 k for overnight but I am sure it can be negotiated down. There were a few 6/7's but most of them were 2/3's. I did not partake.

So, as my stay comes to the end I will give a summary here.

In fact I know now that I am looking for GFE as much as possible, any negotiation seems to be a sex killer for me, but may be I can change mind. Who knows.

This stay was not a typical mongering stay as I reach only girls I already knew by chat from months and years, 3+ years for one.

No money involved for two of them, no request on their side, but on my side I gave gifts.

First was the 30 yo 3 child's, yes, yes, working in Qatar, in jail since 3 years inside a beautiful house working for her bosses. So she was in total lack of sex and has been a sex machine during 10 days. We went to iloilo, and guimaras, even on an island where the resort was empty, all the staff for us. And they noticed that we didn't came out of the room very often, and everybody was laughing.

She was demanding several times a day, me I was short, able to cum once over two days, condoms were killing all, so we stayed bareback as I was so long to cum. But able to stay hard enough for 30 minutes to 1 hour, so she cumed several times each. Once she said, this morning I came 6 times, this evening I have work, I want to reach 10. And she did.

Incredible 10 days almost all the time in bed.

Her body was quite nice, bit small, slim enough, some marks from births, but very few, and fully GFE, hugging all night while sleeping, beautiful exp. Tits were small but so sensitives! sex machine when tits were excited by mouth or fingers.

The second was in Makati, working in a house and with a curfew 9 pm to 6 am, so only meetings during day.

Very petite, 1. 4 m, 40 kgs, 26 yo, known since 3 years on chat. She came to visit me, two times, each time, the first I had a fast cum as she was so cute, petite, thin, small and round tits, also very sensitives.

The second time I had been unable to cum the night before but with her I cumed a lot, we did twice and she cumed too. She was tight but very wet so really no issue to accept me which I am a bit big. I left 1. 5 in her purse second time we met, but when I told her she took the money and gave it back to me, so I insist as a gift and she kept it. Also very nice exp.

Third was not planned to met her, a therapist 31 yo met on badoo long time ago, nice body. So I text her and she came Immediately to my hotel. As I was planning to find a massage parlor, she propose to do it with a friend, for 1 k each, two hours, ok, she called her friend, nice one too, even a bit chubby but not so much, so we went to the room. They started good massage but quickly my girl stopped and only the friend was massaging. My girl was lying close to me so I was caressing her about everywhere while the other was giving a nice massage, correct, even some movements and touching a bit closer to parties which turns a bit exciting while I was cuddling with the other one.

I think I can give contact of these two to all of you interested, they should be ready for more surely but at least they do very good massages.

Then my girl stayed for the night, and I gave her the 1 k, the next night she massaged me for 2 hrs with a beautiful HJ which turns in sex in pussy very quick and she stayed for the night, but asking for 2 k in the morning saying that she need to give 1 k to madam for night stay. I gave only 1 k, but later I propose her to come back getting the other 1 k,still waiting.

I visited also abacca Massage parlor, based on Lalecs1 report and I confirm the excellent session with prostate massage, not my favorite usually, but here she got me very easily with HJ and prostate massage, this after having been unsuccessful to cum since 1 day all. She succeeded easily. May be I prefer massages.

For hotels I stay in Durban hotel in burgos, very correct room, quiet even if without window, good restaurant.

In iloilo I stayed in circle inn, then in Costa aguadas on inampulungan Island and Clara Beach in guimaras, all hotels costing between 21 euros to about 26. No hot water in guimaras but not really an issue.

I rented a motorcycle, 125 cm3, 580 ph a day and I did all roads in guimaras.

Crossing between islands was very easy with bangkas costing 15 ph if public one with 50+ pax, or 500 ph for the same bangka for only me, which I chose.

Very good opinion now on Phil, people very nice everywhere, easy to communicate, travel and nice landscapes.

Very good stay.

Dear sir,

I would love to try your massage contact. Possible to send me by PM?

Thanks Bro,

Vic.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2277570]So, as my stay comes to the end I will give a summary here.

In fact I know now that I am looking for GFE as much as possible, any negotiation seems to be a sex killer for me, but may be I can change mind. Who knows.

This stay was not a typical mongering stay as I reach only girls I already knew by chat from months and years, 3+ years for one.

No money involved for two of them, no request on their side, but on my side I gave gifts.

First was the 30 yo 3 child's, yes, yes, working in Qatar, in jail since 3 years inside a beautiful house working for her bosses. So she was in total lack of sex and has been a sex machine during 10 days. We went to iloilo, and guimaras, even on an island where the resort was empty, all the staff for us. And they noticed that we didn't came out of the room very often, and everybody was laughing..[/QUOTE]

After my failure to secure a good sw punt on my first day, I decided to go back to LA Cafe at around 11 that night to wash off that horrible experience hoping for something less intense. It wasn't that crowded, but hard to find a seat where I was not next to groups already settled in. I did not think to go upstairs, I just sat down and ordered a whiskey and a beer pretending to look busy at my phone. After a few minutes a couple of girls circled around in my general area making eye contact. The first wave was three girls, early to mid 30's a bit on the thick side, not to my liking. I finally started to acclimatize to the inside of the bar and decided to walk around with my beer after drinking my whiskey. I found a slim girl at a table towards the back, she seemed friendly enough but not engaging, I found out why shortly when her guy came back carrying her drink. I gave him a respectful nod and fucked off elsewhere in the bar. Lots of girls walking around but nothing particularly good that I could see.

Thinking of calling it a night, I ran into my waitress and decided to another shot and asked her to find me a seat as my previous one had been taken. She took me right into the mix in between some crowded tables but one of them was all girls and much nicer than the ones I saw wandering around. They all looked over when I was seated but I was too much of a pussy to approach a table of girls so I sat there and maintained eye contact with one of them, a tall (5'7') leggy girl in her early 30's with a good figure wearing cotton shorts and a silk looking sleeveless top. She passed by me twice, the second time brushing her hand along my arm to which I responded with an affirming nod and smile. I was able to get a good look at her up close, a definite 7 in my book. We talked a bit and she offered 4 k for short time. After my experience that day and the quality of most of what I'd seen inside I was ready to go 4 k but was able to negotiate to 2 k for 3 hrs and 2 rnds. I felt like I maybe should have started 1500 or 1800 but I didn't feel like ruining the mood.

At my hotel we showered together, she gave me a quick BJ in the shower before moving to the bed with me lying down while she sucked me off. She had nice thick black hair and smooth skin, a good figure, very slight belly but no fat anywhere else on her body. Her boobs were a little smaller than I realized but nice and round and firm, slightly broad at the shoulders like a female tennis player. Good firm round ass leading to her nicely tapered and shapely legs. I was well and sufficiently turned on at the sight of her freshly showered and smiling at me as she gobbled up my dick.

I didn't realize how tired I was at this point, all the walking and the four beers and two whiskeys with nothing to eat since my steak sandwich for lunch at the airport before my flight. I could not come from a BJ after about 25 minutes and I was too tired to fuck so I had her finish me off with a furious handjob. She was happy to oblige, even leaning in and catching some of my cum on her mouth and hands as I finished.

I didn't know if I had the energy for a second round, I had set my alarm for an hour later but told her the money was on the table under the room service menu in case I did not wake up within our agreed short time period of three hours. We talked a bit in between me falling in and out of sleep, I told her how tired I was from my day and that I had not eaten. She offered to go down to get me some food so I gave her 500 and she came back 10 minutes later with an assortment of chicken, hotdogs and other fried shit from ministop, beers and Gatorade. I ate some of the greasy food and rice, drank up the Gatorade while she drank her beer and then cleaned up the food. We lounged around the bed for a bit and she asked if I was feeling better. A bit but still sore so she offered a massage which was not bad at all with her good strong hands. I didn't know if she was angling for a tip but I thought the service so far was easily worth and additional 300-500 pesos.

Soon after I was good and ready to go, we tried many positions, the main one with her on top riding me like a maniac moaning and swaying her head around like she thought she was in a porno. We were on the floor at one point and ended up on the bed with me finishing on top of her in the prone position. There was still around 30 minutes left so we chatted a bit after cleaning up. Instead of giving her the extra 500 tip I thought about earlier, I asked if she would stay overnight and take 500 for another round in the morning. She thought about it a bit and agreed. Sometime that night I woke up pressed up against her hard as rock. I tried to fuck her but she wasn't into it and told me to wait until the morning. I ended up grinding up against her, she didn't seem to mind and I finished myself off and came on her ass. I wiped her off and went back to sleep. We didn't wake up until 10 the next morning and had missed the hotel breakfast. We ate the remaining ministop food and and got straight to fucking again. We were both in a hurry, she needed to get somewhere and I was already behind on my days itinerary so I paid and we said a quick goodbye forgetting to exchange numbers.

That was my first night at LA, I went back three more times, two were uneventful while a third one was really good. Once in the morning, I found two slim girls in their 20's. I had seem them already turn down one guy who came by so I was hesitant to approach. One was slim and leggy, around 5'6 in a tight dress and her friend was petite, around 5'1 with heels. They were both clutching empty beer bottles so I asked if I could get them another drink but they said they were about to leave. They asked me if I stayed nearby and we started to talk. I asked the taller one how much, she said 5 k at first and then we got down to 2500, it seemed OK but I remembered what I had read here 1500 to 2 k for st. She did not budge from that price until I politely thanked her and started to leave, then she said 2200 lowest so I agreed. ST, 2 rounds and she asked if her friend could come. I told her I only wanted her, she said her friend just wanted a place to sleep because she had nowhere to wait since they had already checked out and were planning on going back home to somewhere outside the city that morning. I agreed and made it clear I did not have the additional budget or energy for two girls that day.

At the hotel me and the taller one showered separately, I also told her friend to shower, my pretext being that the hotel did not change sheets and I wanted it to smell fresh. In my head I was trying to figure out how to get the friend in on the action.

Petite girl showered while me and her friend fucked on the bed, she was nice and slim, small but firm tits looked like a half Japanese mix girl but was a pure Filipina. We sat around a bit before round 2 and her friend slept on one side of the bed wrapped in her towel. Petite girl had really light skin and a nice firm ass and legs.

On to Road 2 with the taller of the two, petite girl let me grab her ass and legs for a bit while I DFK'd and got a BJ from her friend but she got up and sat on the chair and played with her phone when we started to fuck. I tried to call her over twice while I was with her friend but she just smiled and shook her head. The sex was great with her taller skinny friend and I was able to keep going for another 5 minutes after cumming. We cleaned up and talked a bit after while her friend went back to sleep. They said they needed to get back to the hotel to get their stuff which they had left at the reception before taking a jeep and a bus. She told me where to but I forgot, it was a three hour ride away.

I let them stay and rest a bit longer and headed down to buy some cigarettes and drink a beer at a 711. When I got back they had turned off all the lights and TV and drawn the curtains one of them was snoring. I let them sleep it off for another 40 minutes before creeping up on the petite one and waking her up to see if I could get some action from her. She was up for it but wasn't giving it up for free. She wanted 1500 for one pop, discounted rate she said, but eventually went down to 800. There was a lot of foreplay before the act and the taller one had woken up, I asked her to join us but she said no threesomes. She did stay on the bed and I switched DFK between them couple of times and fingered the taller one while I fucked the petite one. Had a nice big orgasm and fell asleep right after.

The girls were just finishing off getting dressed as I woke up around an hour later. Gave them the 3 k total and a tip of 700 for the both of them, got a nice long snog from the tall one and groped both their asses before they left.

I reckon I got lucky with these two catching them there in the morning, they probably already finished with a customer or customers and stopped by LA for some last minute cash before heading off home. Given the quality of the girls and the availability of talent in LA or lack thereof and the way the Japanese and Koreans snap up the younger, hotter girls I doubt I would have got them at that price during peak hours.

I'll post my additional freelance experiences as well as the wechat and tinder reports next.