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Jajajajaja those are very ilustrative words!
Thanks for the quote, Monday will reply and share a few more pics on the board.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2823561]Just found out there is a song called Ficha Rosa by an artist named Latino. You can find it on youtube.
This is the translation.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2823561]Just found out there is a song called Ficha Rosa by an artist named Latino. You can find it on youtube.
This is the translation.[/QUOTE]And with that when you boil it all down, we see that at the end of the night a "ficha rosa" (despite all of the supposed distinctions) is none other than a "tute" by a different name. No matter how complicated or nuanced anybody wants to make it, having sex in direct exchange for money = prostitution. And it’s as simple and straightforward as that.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2823656]And with that when you boil it all down, we see that at the end of the night a "ficha rosa" (despite all of the supposed distinctions) is none other than a "tute" by a different name. No matter how complicated or nuanced anybody wants to make it, having sex in direct exchange for money = prostitution. And its as simple and straightforward as that.[/QUOTE]Ficha Rosa ficha rosa LOL The fact that she might be a ficha rosa for somebody more often than not wouldn't mean that she'd necessarily be a ficha rosa for somebody else. There is nothing in this business that is set in stone. All is always flexible depending on situation. Ficha rosa is usually a persona for high paying clients. The same woman would more often than not would have a different persona for those who would never consider paying $500 US in Brazil.
I discovered that many ladies the world over would try to present themselves as such as part of negotiations tactics to avoid what they call "lowballers". I'm sure you realize that 'lowballer' is nothing more than somebody who doesn't agree to pay her ask. They'd tell you stuff like "I have guys paying me so much all the time" or 'I have GFs that get paid this type of money all the time" or! 'I have plenty of clients paying me this' etc.
Let's not be gullible gents. All this is nothing more than negotiating tactic, more often than not highly embellished.
Case in point I knew a very pretty girl in Boston who worked for the agency and was constantly complaining that agency was taking too much of the cut (40%) and she could command agency's ask all on her own, and so on and so forth. One day she decided to rent a room on her own, and advertise indy for a week. Guess what? LOL She never did it again!
Don't get me wrong there are many among us that would rather pay their ask than bother with negotiating. I could be guilty of that too sometimes. There are women who would command a lot of money and get it too. I just know that more often than not it's all BS. There are codes ladies use for various price tiers.
Some of you old timers might remember Luana Martinelli (google Luana Martinelli porn). Did she ever ask any of you to refer to her as Camilla when you'd call her next time? If she did than you'd know exactly what I'm talking about here LOL.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2823487]Sure Nounce, first of all, we must be clear with definitions. Please don't think I'm rude on my language.
Group E: an Escort (beautiful or not) is a girl who gives sexual services as a way of living in a house (boate, club, massage parlor, etc). Let's say one day a week to five days a week. In Brazil they have to check attendance, and have days off, as you may have heard from working girls. Their romantic live is out of discussion.
Group F: A Ficha Rosa is a girl who does not give sexual services as a way of living. She, in a private and discrete way, has sexual encounters for money or other favors. In Argentina that's called "Casting Cama" or "bed casting" very self explanatory I suppose. Girls go on private trips, dates with media producers or guys who have a lot of influence. Nothing new in the land of the lord. Their romantic live is out of discussion, they can f**k a ton of guys for no money at all, just for the fun of it.
Do we agree with definitions?
Ok, I know myself girls from Group F who have never been on Group E, nor plan to be on Group E or be frequent to places where girls of Group E work, because they are clever. They have so many influential guys after them, they simply don't need to go to a house following a labor schedule.
And as you want evidence. Not one, but two good examples on pictures attached (real from archive, not AI generated). Both girls have around 100 K followers on Instagram. The petite has a rocking ass, I mean she's an sculpture. The taller one, now brunette, is a true twister on the bed. Both will never start a session by going to the bathroom to do hygiene and pee, like every escort / working girl does in this world. Small but important difference at the time you're ready on the boxing ring.
They do not need to put one foot on boates to get guys who can pay them more than USD500 and take them on expensive trips.[/QUOTE]LOL those girls are the crème de la crème. I am fortunate to work with in my art career. Guess it's time to message you. Congrats on the photos. Question: does anyone ever use IG to search out Brazil for them?
## Scandallo.
So I went to Scandallo twice. Once on a Saturday evening, not ideal but I wanted something low spaced and figured Saturday would be great!
It wasn't as disappointing as I thought it would be based on reports. Plenty girls and a much better girl / men ratio I felt. Lot of them caught my eye. I got approached quite a bit but only with girls who technically were not my type: Short, a bit chubby, with fake tits and with a bunda. I prefer them skinny with be-see cups and bubble butt! One of them was kind enough to give me a tour and knowing I was new there, quoted me 1500 for an hour session. I failed to imagine why anyone would ever pay her that, but to each their own. I did not even bring up going into the room but she was keen. Perhaps because I was generous to her with a meal and a drink? I turned down the approaches and went on with my dinner in the restaurant.
Next, I chill on the lawn outside and watch soccer. Quite a bit women, most seeming to have fun with young Brazilians. They were all over them. This area is a smoking zone and everyone there felt like a heavy smoker. So I went inside to the restaurant again. Ordered a diet coke. I see a cute German tatted young lady enjoying her meal, of course I won't interrupt during the meal. So I was planning on waiting. But hey she caught me checking her out and smiled at me, I wave and she invites me over to her table! We get to talking, she can speak a bit of English. Enough to hold a conversation, sometime struggling to find her words which I would fill in most time because I got the gist of it. Conversation is amazing, we talk about interests, etc, etc. She asks to go out to the park / lawn and get a drink. I oblige. Turns out she is a very heavy smoker. Now is not the time to be very picky, so I don't let it distract me. Except for smoking and heavily tatted, she is exactly my type. Eventually the question to go to the room comes up, she quotes 1 k and within 10 seconds we settle for 700. Dumb me didn't have cash, so I paid 10% extra fee for paying my card for the girl for the total of 770. Plus 230 for the room and 500 entry.
Rooms are a shamble here to be honest. I would say 1-2 star hotel like in North America. But that's not what I am here for. The sex is amazing. She is passionate, all acronyms like DFK, fingering, BBBJ and multiple position are delivered. I don't last long because yea know been a while and she is super hot and skilled. Now here's the surprising part which I hadn't read about so I didn't discuss with the girl, but once the deed is done, she washes up and gets ready to leave. And says feel free to stay here to relax, but I am heading downstairs if you want to come. I am unsure if this is the norm here. I was definitely looking for going for round 2 and we had perhaps 30 or so min left. Well, I just head downstairs and although the session was super nice: I came out a bit disappointed. Mostly because of unrealistic expectation? I didn't feel like confronting her, I prefer to spend time with people who are willing and not forcefully. Maybe some other seasoned members can shed light on this, but lesson learned and from now on I am always asking for 2 shots in the negotiation phase. I did negotiate blow job without condom and anal, was I have read those can be a hit and miss. But not spending a full hour wasn't on my list but is now. Also the girl had super amazing time too, gave me her number to meet again at the end, so I don't think it was an issue of her not liking me or anything.
## Casarao.
Another day (Friday night) and now we head to Casarao. I am here for a month so Scandallo often would probably bankrupt me. Casarao is what you would expect a discotheque / club elsewhere. Except there are a lot more girls and you don't have to try and impress the girl by buying a table or expensive champagne in the hopes that maybe one of them would end up in your bed later that day. I love it! Go to the club knowing every women is willing to sleep with you? Its a dreamland. I get approached within 2 seconds of entering. There's a nude strip show going in the background too. I hit her with my Eu nao falo Portuguese and the translator comes out. This god gifted gravity defining titty women is a cutie! From Rio de Janeiro with great bunda and amazing natural boobs dressed slutty in red dress is all over me. Casarao is the place to get in pick up a girl and get out, which our members have kindly shared their wisdom on. We are talking and I am scanning the room to see if anyone else might catch my interest, but nope she seems to be the one I would want out and we are negotiating. She says 500 for an hour. Also explains me other charges, 50 for the entry which I will be charged when going out, 100 for the room. I say 400 for you and 100 for the room and she says yes within a second? I mean I was hoping back and forth and now I am thinking if I should have gone lower, but hey after Scandallo this feels like s steal to me! Oh and I have already asked what she will do with me in room, she doesn't do anal. Says would kiss passionately, blow job without condom and yea make me finish twice! Off we go! In the room, she joins in the shower, wasn't expecting but I love it! She kissed me, got me hard and turns and slap my dick on her ass, is teasing me with some twerking and boy have I never been this hard! Part of me wants to fuck right here but we are bare without a condom so I control myself. We wash off with some more fun and then head to the bed! Sex is amazing. Everything is great and she does know how to blow. Lot of licking and great tongue work happening while my dick is in her mouth. I don't know what she is doing with that tongue but its definitely making me weak in the knee! Cow girl, Missionary with those tits are amazing! She doesn't drink or do drugs and is soo high energy! I think I am in love with women from Rio already. Now I am not stupid enough to miss out on doggy when someone has that bunda, so I tap it in lazy dogy and its heaven. I am out of breathe and climax! And its the best sex I have had in a while. She is saying something in Portuguese during the act, my guess is I am cumming, you are so hard, cum for me etc. The usual sex talk. We relax a bit and she is go again. Lot of making out and amazing amazing blowjob, This time I finish in blowjob, she don't do CIM so I finish on her stomach! Some light face fucking too. Overall this is a great session!
We both head back to the club, I go hangout at the back of the club. Enjoying my diet coke. Got approached multiple times and I let the girls know I am recovering right now. They are all polite and kiss goodbye. Its a while club vibe and I can see why people hate it or not enjoy, but I am having fun. Bird watching. Some of them walking around half naked, some of them groping making out. For me its a dreamland especially if you like clubbing. Later that night, I find a Paulistian blonde. She has fake tits which I only found out later in the room and has an amazing natural butt! This time I only go for 30 minutes because I know I am not cumming more than once. 300 is the damage and the sex is good not like the other but still good. She was kissing but not into it. Blow job was very weak and short before she put on the condom but damn the sex was hot! I think it has something to do with her ass Finish in lazy dog this time! Overall its my fav experience so far. Its nowhere near as luxurious but my pick in Casarao seem to be a hit. And of course, I am more clear with expectations which helped out a lot.
## Abbobora.
And new day, Saturday I head to Abbobora next. I am perhaps late around 5:30. There's 4 girls. One of them doable but I pass and head back. No score but will try out some other time.
Next week: It will be a mix of Scandallo, clinicas and of course Casarao.
Happy hunting folks.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2823656]
Ficha Rosa ficha rosa LOL The fact that she might be a ficha rosa for somebody more often than not wouldn't mean that she'd necessarily be a ficha rosa for somebody else. There is nothing in this business that is set in stone. All is always flexible depending on situation. Ficha rosa is usually a persona for high paying clients. The same woman would more often than not would have a different persona for those who would never consider paying $500 US in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Yes sir, girls can handle different personas much better than men.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2823656]And with that when you boil it all down, we see that at the end of the night a "ficha rosa" (despite all of the supposed distinctions) is none other than a "tute" by a different name. No matter how complicated or nuanced anybody wants to make it, having sex in direct exchange for money = prostitution. And its as simple and straightforward as that.[/QUOTE]The line between being a lover or being a high end tute is very very thin.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2823656]LOL those girls are the crme de la crme. I am fortunate to work with in my art career. Guess it's time to message you. Congrats on the photos. Question: does anyone ever use IG to search out Brazil for them? [/QUOTE]Years in business!
On Facebook there were groups for promo modeling jobs, it was ridiculous the amount of girls writing their personal phones on the jobs offerings, legit or not. Promo modeling is an extincted career after pandemics. On Instagram writing or commenting to a model with 200 K followers is, from my experience, a waste of time. I browse photographers jobs and invite a beer to the photographer. There the information flows.
But again, scoring one such models takes. A ton of time.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2823781]...But again, scoring one such models takes. A ton of time.[/QUOTE]Say I own a tire company and has a booth in a exhibition and I need to hire a few models with VIP service. You mean I can't just call up the agency that I have been using and tell them the "spec', like Morena, Blonde, BBBJ, CIM?
If not, how much time do I need to prepare for such arrangement as I am not looking for a girlfriend?
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2823781]The line between being a lover or being a high end tute is very very thin.
[/QUOTE]And the difference between being a Ficha Rosa on Insta and just another girl with her face blurred out on photoacompanhantes is often just that: the site, and the corresponding price points. Other than that it's the same person. LOL.
Ficha rosa might get just one or two clients per year off her being a ficha rosa while most of them would come as "best BJ in town!" on photoacompanhantes LOL. Those one or two clients however would make her Ficha Rosa persona well worth while, as long as she's able to keep her personas separately.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2823781]But again, scoring one such models takes. A ton of time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2823793]Say I own a tire company and has a booth in a exhibition and I need to hire a few models with VIP service. You mean I can't just call up the agency that I have been using and tell them the "spec', like Morena, Blonde, BBBJ, CIM?
If not, how much time do I need to prepare for such arrangement as I am not looking for a girlfriend?[/QUOTE]I think what you need to do first is to establish plan of action of how you're going to handle the problem. Tires, especially spare tires, are sensitive matters. You got to approach it with some finesse.
My company builds software package that would be able to help you navigate through all that. Then we could also provide consulting services that are sure to shorten the period of time that you'd otherwise spend on developing and negotiating with Ficha Rosa. BBBJ is not official here because she's just your regular GND who advertises on Insta and just knows her worth. CIM is initially out of the question so you'd need an expert help to negotiate that. We could provide you all of that for very reasonable compensation which factoring our hefty ISG members discount would take it well below going rate.
The agencies are way out of fashion nowadays and what kind loira-morena could they possibly provide you with anyway? It's a box of chocolate at best: maybe it's air tight, maybe it's ocean wide. Ficha Rosa is a way to go and that's where we can help! LOL.
That's a good example, but booking promo models doesn't mean you already scored them. Agencies will send you the list of the requested profiles, but none will send you, up from the start, a list of the promos you can score. Maybe at the second or third event they will insinuate they count on such and such profiles.
Also, in promo modeling, bait and switch happens very often.
Let's go on with your example. You have reserved the booth to the production of the trade event, you have sent and made the temporary import of your incredible sport tires, you in person have crossed the ocean, etc etc and an agent (the guy who has showed you incredible promo girls you can score by email) a guy wearing cheap sunglasses shows up at the event with a cheap promo model (maybe a massage girl who wants to take a week off) and tells you "look, the models NNN and MMM will arrive tomorrow because they had exams at their college. " or any other incredible story.
What do you do in that moment? Many accept the switch!
I've seen it happen right in front of me, incredible booths working with 10 cents promo models.
Want to see a picture of such case? Ok, in that event in particular, the prices of promo model for 5 days started at US $1200 including taxes. Sorry to say it, that girl did not get US $ 300 for her work, petite, slim, not classy, etc. And look at the machinery being promoted on the pics behind.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2823793]Say I own a tire company and has a booth in a exhibition and I need to hire a few models with VIP service. You mean I can't just call up the agency that I have been using and tell them the "spec', like Morena, Blonde, BBBJ, CIM?
If not, how much time do I need to prepare for such arrangement as I am not looking for a girlfriend?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2823801]That's a good example, but booking promo models doesn't mean you already scored them. ....[/QUOTE]I already requested what I want. What do you mean I don't already score them? Then what is the point to pay them? What you described seems low end to me. LOL. Are you talking about Brazil or elsewhere?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2823866]Then what is the point to pay them? [/QUOTE]He might meet them in his line of work anyway, so those that do perform would be pure upside, as opposed to a pure waste of time and money.
South America in general.
By scoring I mean fu**ng them. Not Nounce, you can't assume that after paying an A1 promo model for her loyal work, you'll f**k her like any escort when the booth is closed.
This is why so many bosses have complaints for harassment.
An escort is a girl who, in freedom, chooses to behave that way. It's good to mention the word freedom, is a very solid concept.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2823866]I already requested what I want. What do you mean I don't already score them? Then what is the point to pay them? What you described seems low end to me. LOL. Are you talking about Brazil or elsewhere?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Batraaa;2823739]## Scandallo.
Now here's the surprising part which I hadn't read about so I didn't discuss with the girl, but once the deed is done, she washes up and gets ready to leave. And says feel free to stay here to relax, but I am heading downstairs if you want to come. I am unsure if this is the norm here.
[/QUOTE]You were short-timed by the girl, man. It also happened to me with the second girl I had in Scandallo, though not so blatantly. She stayed and made out with me after the sex, but asked to leave after about 45 minutes. My first Scandallo girl stayed for a full hour with me because she speaks English and we had a pretty good conversation. And she was very surprised and happy that an Asian guy like me picked her. I am her very first Asian client.
Scandallo girls are not employees of the club and therefore are not strictly regulated by the club. I think if the girl is interested in you, you'll have a better chance of avoiding it.